The driving forces for building this park didn't relate to the quality of the surf. It was creating bathroom facilities and places for surfers to change. There was decent surf to the north, off Sun Gold Point. Surfers would park in the residential areas off Sea Ridge Drive, change in their cars, or semi-hidden behind car doors, which wasn't thought of highly by the residents. Nor was occasional public urination. The police were called regularly. There were threats at City Hall to ban surfing in the area. This lead to efforts by a coalition of surf clubs and senior life guards to request public investment in facilities. I was there. The campaign included a march down broadway to City Hall to present the case. There was a photo of the marchers with signs on the front page of the Evening Tribune. This photo is memorialized on a wall mural in the O.B. Surf Lodge.
I can see why the surfers weren't happy, they believe once a park is built for them then they think that's the only place for them. But thankfully that's not how it turned out.
@@JK-br1mu No land available. Also, don't think the regulars at the best breaks (Blacks, Wind 'n' Sea, Sunset Cliffs, etc.), would have been pleased or let it happen.
@@tompgable im no surfer, rather a jeep guy, and I think the main issue that both “sports” come up against is private property vs public land. I assume some of the best surfing areas may be where prime real estate is, and so surfers had(have) to deal with wealthy opposition. With jeeping, you are almost always treading on private property, so you have to travel distances just to use your $50,000+ machine. I’m fortunate that I live a few hours from Moab, where the best places to jeep are not anywhere near private ownership. It’s like if surfers had their own Hawaiian island to themselves.
wow ,, this tourmaline story was mind blowing to come up on u-tube by surprise.... i lived in la jolla for 40 years. first third, a half a block from beautiful windn'sea beach, then the second third, right up the street from south bird, then the last third,, back to a half a block from windn'sea beach again..... my first year or so of learning how to surf was me and juan gamboa would walk from south bird to tourmaline, about 2 miles,, i would carry the 2 front noses of our 9'6" longboards, and Juan would carry the 2 tails,, tourmaline canyon was pure nature, no roads, nothing. there was a trail we walked down through the valley to the surf.... junk surf, but thats where we learned.... you could find giant fossilized shark teeth in that canyon. it was so beautiful.... just like la canada canyon in la jolla was before it was developed/ruined..... then we learned how to ride waves good enough to ride beautiful sungold point,, i remember we were still major groms,, and when we walked down to the beach at the point, all the older surfers and their gals would all be naked on the beach to the left.... we were like, omg,, keep walking....lol then we mastered the point, hair-mo's, hanomands, sewerline, south bird, huge north bird, and secret spots..... so after we got surfing dialed.... there were days when i would catch the biggest sets at outside hair-mo's, and get incredible down the line rides all the way to tourmaline....!!!! which is easily over a mile....!!!! so it was weird to kick out at tourmaline as a pro,, when that was where it all started for me..... then many years later, la jolla got ruined with to many rules and regulations, crowds, etc...... so me and my dog entered the time machine,, and moved 31 years ago to a very remote, lonely, coastline in northern California to a place like la jolla was in the 1800's and still is.... thank you all you beautiful surfers that showed me how beautiful surfing is with all of you beautiful different styles...... i love you all and miss you...... sincerely, roy stockton.....☮💜🙂
reporter should get credit here as well for asking constructive and meaningful questions amongst everyone, allowing them to speak and converse back to their points
i grew up surfing tourmaline canyon , from archer st. loring st, the cove, false point hermos,i loved the park close to home for alot of us groms, following guys like skip frye, bruce enns, margo, sandera, dale dobson ,what beautiful memories, bird rock elementary alumni,,we just to skateboard down that hill awsome memories,,,,,its good they put that park,,,
So fun to see this before the ramp/parking lot. Didn’t realize that Tourmaline dead-ended at the canyon, but it makes sense. It must have been before LJ Blvd cut through to Loring. I’m gonna have to go look up some Historical Society photos now. I was born in Dec ‘63 - right around when this was filmed. I’m posting this from my native childhood home, where I now live again - on Chelsea at Southbird. I was at Bird Rock Elementary during the Rasmussen years. My Dad took us to the Shores in those early years to surf, but once we were old enough to get around on bikes- we were at Law St or Old Man’s/Cove. Over time, we got more picky and I remember bravely paddling out at Southbird for the first time at 9 and getting acquainted with finger reef. After that, our playground became Windansea to PB point - whatever was walkable or bikeable. Every day, I am pleasantly reminded of how fortunate we are to be connected with this amazing stretch of coastline - a beautiful surfing playground. Of course, with that comes a sense of custodianship, especially with so many visitors nowadays. Special aloha to our PB/LJ family of local old timers, including these early legends and those who continue to carry the torch of preserving and maintaining beach access. We may or may not know each other, but we are bonded through our local history that transcends time. See you in the water. 🌊
Great hanging out with you at the 40th, tell Billy I said Hello. Bill Woodard! When Mike is talking, you can see Jeff Bennetts grandfathers house above the lot.
Lol I love how he says it’s flat but there’s plenty of runners coming through hahah. All I know is I could go out in that ANY DAY OF THE WEEK AND HAVE A BLAST!!! At 1:09 look above the blonde hair dude above his head lol there’s a perfect right just peeling with no one in sight trying to jam
Can't blame them, they had the best spots every day with little to no crowd, they were spoiled and probably were having way better surf than that on a regular basis.
I was surfing this area during the early 60s and don't remember this city fiasco. The Tourmaline canyon was never good but just south at Law street we had OK surf. They went ahead and built Tourmaline Surf Park but we never went there and I don't think anyone ever did. I think the city caved to the property owners who did not want to provide lawful access to the beach. That has been a problem since Balsa boards were used.
Wow I was 13 then and vaguely remember this huge debate. My mom took up surfing in the 50’s surfing Malibu lots … where there was a tough bunch of extremely territorial guys. They had razor blades inserted into the tips of their boards with a point system … with kicking out at someone’s head (who had taken off in front of them) scored the highest points. But no idea how they dressed or spoke 😂 We moved to the North Shore Oahu ‘64 so lost track of how this all turned out. As a 13 year old never forget going to Santa Monica Auditorium to see Endless Summer … so much wonderful dreamy innocence … however, NS had it’s dark side back then too.
Tourmaline has become a nice spot down here as longboarding gains interest, it also became the spot for everyone and their momma to learn. I love surfing here when the waves are big or small, super chill. However I do like the idea of them building a bunch of smaller access points along the coast instead
@Skipper Surf Review new symrna beach, mayport poles, Sebastián inlet just to name a few places that are almost on par with trestles rather than san diego especially during winter and hurricane season. If there are no waves go out on the boat.
Thoughtful, articulate responses from Bill Caster. Hyson is vague when naming spots. Dif is correct; surfers go where the waves are best. Was San Diego really ever going to limit surfing? The video shows empty crap waves. Same conditions today, attracts hundreds from team Costco.
Before you grew into the prejudice pro surfer you are now,you were once a novice beginnertoo,,or,team costco,as you label them,and,if you ever grow old enough to gain wisdom and the fragility that accompanies age,you too might find yourself surfing the gentle n predictable waves of tourmaline,think about it, whens the last time you saw a 70tr old cutting it up at wind n sea?
@@deand2668 I’m sorry I called the empty waves crap. Yes, empty and gentle. Just pointing out the contrast of today. Yes I was once a beginner too. I hope someday I’m lucky enough to be a beginner again. Wiser maybe yet fragile certainly.
@@genewest8426 Diffenderfer passed much more recently. The guy was super cool, all class. Picked me up on the North Shore in 1990, when I needed a ride. It was great to just meet the man. Such a legend. Hynson is a real one, too... I got a hand made 10' 6" Hynson single, made from a Walker blank back in the 90's. It was a good board.
Wow that’s crazy I’m 20 and those homes in La Jolla are 2 million minimum now.. if only I had a time machine lol.. my only hope is owning a beachfront property in Baja California lol
No they couldnt. Its no different now. YES, Im San Diego native and homes in North county were 9K but people were making $300 a month. Today million dollar homes but with a good job youre making 5k a month.
@@YourName-jm7lz I guess San Diego failed you education wise.. when wages on average are mid 50k and the homes in that area are in the millions that is not the same as making $300 a month when homes are 9k. You could pay off 9k in 30 months then 😂😂 no one is paying off a La Jolla home in 30 months in 2023… you would need to make 50k a month 😂
Wow...constructive open dialogue without interruption. They even stayed on topic. Surfers wearing normal clothes, forming complete sentences without playing up stereotypes! Well done random people from the past. Sorry we have let you down hahaha!
That's because nobody these days let's regulator's regulate. It's always been this way "Code Of The Streets" Rather - Sure bring another Wave Storm/ Jerry Lopez with your BLM shit, coexist sticker then Surf without any previous knowledge of surf etiquette, local respect and common RESPECT. It's like driving a car for the first time blind folded! WTF are these people thinking. Not a fun fact! Common sense isn't common!!
I've been surfing tourmaline since about 1984 on big days is the best. It's become so crowded that I just don't go there anymore. Now I'm surfing at secret spot where they're only a couple hundred people.
@@HIPPIETHUG92109 Apollo893: "No one has respect anymore!" Also Apollo893: "We need to physically assault all these people coming here with 'coexist' stickers on their car!"
I stayed there for a month in a breadbox motorhome...june july 74....buddy broke his arm skateboarding down ramp....surf was soso....but plenty spots close by.....like the cat said.wind and sea was wild....wipe outs brutal....happy 2023....old guys rule
I agree. I used to surf that whole area often. It was also nice to have easy parking and a restroom facility. And on big days, the surf would break way out there. Yippee.
^ Why are you getting all retarded? It's not cape st Francis, but you can get above average to excellent waves for a longboard at tourmo and pb point. Rides even up to around 30 seconds. What he said is objectively wrong regardless of how prominent he is.
That's one of the most irrational posts I've ever read lol. Are you ok? PB point and the beach at Tourmo aren't 'very poor' as he said. Doesn't matter who said it, it's false. They get good to excellent for a longboard a lot of the time.
@@clintjones9848 Oh yeah, I'm OK. I started surfing in 1974 in LaJolla. These guys are legends and I doubt they ever paddled out at Tourmaline. You go ahead and enjoy your long rides at Tourmaline. That's good for you. PB point can have great days, but I never paddled out from Tourmo.
Yes, Reagan defunded the loony bins and let them all out.. then property prices rised to serve the capitalists profiting off real estate.. then wages remained stagnated compared to inflation and productivity while corporations continue to have stock price growth..
Yes, it's both astounding and depressing to witness the disparity between how they talk in this video and the way people talk now. So much has been lost from this culture in so few years.
I surfed there during COVID Nazi Mandates and got detained by the police at 1 am, all the while BLM protesters were burning and looting in La Mesa and Downtown SD. LMAOOOOO
Interesting how this surfer/swimmer conflict played out back then. Crazy local lawmakers coming up with such a draconian idea. Australian beaches have surfer zones and swimming zones - though swimmers aren't discouraged from surf zones, it's further from the flagged lifeguarded area. Some beaches do ban hard boards(Tamarama), but it's rare and time restricted so you can still surf there early. Classic breaks would never be affected and beach access is sacrosanct in Oz. Impressed how articulate those boys were, You would be lucky to get a proper sentence from many of the surfers I knew.
I grew up on Alison Street in Pb before the canyon parking lot the surf school is right there now 100s a day I stand on this very inch everyday have of and on for 63 years
It's nice to see what Tourmaline looked like before the parking lot, bathrooms, and road down the hill. I know that the fear was that Tourmaline would be the ONLY place surfers were allowed, which would have been a true travesty, considering how much good surf San Diego has to offer. It is also hilarious to say that surfers wouldn't surf Tourmaline. Clearly, that is not the case. I love that spot and PB Point on the outside. They get crowded like bonkers these days, but this is the way of things. In hindsight, I'm proud to have surfed and competed at Tourmaline and that it's a bona fide "surfing park."
California is so much better now with all the progress. No diversity back in the 1960's either. I hope Channel 8 has hired a diversity and inclusion manager by now to help correct the errors of the past.
@@hangten1904 Reagan let all the crazies out when he defunded those Lonny bins… also NIMBYs kept new houses from being built and those old people didn’t want anything denser than a single family house to be built.. If we built multi family and 4 storey apartment buildings more we wouldn’t have such an insane housing crisis and we also put crazy homeless people in facilities.. thank you capitalism and than you Reagan for destroying California and America
Main reason miss the 50’s / 60’s….. best surfers in the county speaking the truth and being badassas, while wearing cardigan and v-neck sweaters. Smart guys!
Wow Mike looked like a kid then.........oh wait this was 60 years ago. This problem very rarely happens in Hawaii except when mainland transplants (Californians) complain about access trails the surfers use.
In the mid and late 70's myself and a few bro's would be ripping pump house and no one around , Now , turmo parking lot is full of kooks.. Long live JR and Hawaiian Mike . RIP. my brother's
Is Mike Hynson still alive? I remember him from the Endless summer. Some old timer told me that the film made tens of millions and he never received any money for co-starring in film?
He's alive. He and Robert August were paid to be in the film. At the time, Mike was pretty stoked on being out of the country as his draft number was about to come up. Bruce Brown, the maker of The Endless Summer, did give Mike and Robert some extra, I think a car? when the film met with a lot of success, but there was never a deal for either him or Robert to have a share in the film's profits. Check out his book, Transcendental Memories of A Surf Rebel.
We love & miss ya Diff! Rip Billy Caster! That’s the Windansea Surf Club Legends. Well the turmos parking lot has more felons, pirates and tweaked then San Quentin and is home to San Diego’s largest Log Jams. Lock your car, hide kids, arm your girlfriend!
@@GuitarWithBrett yeah...they $hit on it pretty hard... It's a small, mushy, junk surf spot most days... But I'll admit to having had some fun out there, in the Summer, mostly... It's kinda like Waikiki, but less power. It's all about attitude and expectations. I've seen Skip Frye run back and forth all over the spot. But eventually...he'd paddle off towards the Point and Bird Rock.
@@anotherworldviewispossible that’s awesome ! I was just surprised how they were naming all other spots as better, wasn’t expecting that so made me laugh. I grew up in Encinitas so didn’t surf much down south but lately surfing OB a lot since moved south. I still short board so avoid long board spots since I can’t compete ha. I do have a foamie I can prob take out at Tourmaline sometime. Sunset cliffs looks fun, surf there much ?
@@GuitarWithBrett Yeah cliffs are good, but kinda soft at most, and crowded at the better spots... I'm partial to Newbs when it's good...but at size, and with the right board, any can be fun. Longboards have their moments and their merits. Odysees and Catch Surfs work pretty well, small or long - but Wavestorms are, pretty much, just garbage. I'd recommend grabbing a good size single fin classic shape log, and getting good at riding it. That way, even when it's small you have a board that works. Plus, it'll build up your leg strength. Once you can rip turns, land floaters, and hit the lip, on one of those - your shortboards will feel like they have wings.
Funny how the city is willing to bend over backwards when it wants something done, but when "residents" call for action they put the brakes on hard.....
The driving forces for building this park didn't relate to the quality of the surf. It was creating bathroom facilities and places for surfers to change. There was decent surf to the north, off Sun Gold Point. Surfers would park in the residential areas off Sea Ridge Drive, change in their cars, or semi-hidden behind car doors, which wasn't thought of highly by the residents. Nor was occasional public urination. The police were called regularly. There were threats at City Hall to ban surfing in the area. This lead to efforts by a coalition of surf clubs and senior life guards to request public investment in facilities. I was there. The campaign included a march down broadway to City Hall to present the case. There was a photo of the marchers with signs on the front page of the Evening Tribune. This photo is memorialized on a wall mural in the O.B. Surf Lodge.
I can see why the surfers weren't happy, they believe once a park is built for them then they think that's the only place for them. But thankfully that's not how it turned out.
And I bet a few of these guys went and fought for our freedom in Vietnam right after this correct Tom?
Well then the people who were involved weren't very bright. Build the bathrooms closer to great waves.
@@JK-br1mu No land available. Also, don't think the regulars at the best breaks (Blacks, Wind 'n' Sea, Sunset Cliffs, etc.), would have been pleased or let it happen.
@@tompgable im no surfer, rather a jeep guy, and I think the main issue that both “sports” come up against is private property vs public land. I assume some of the best surfing areas may be where prime real estate is, and so surfers had(have) to deal with wealthy opposition. With jeeping, you are almost always treading on private property, so you have to travel distances just to use your $50,000+ machine. I’m fortunate that I live a few hours from Moab, where the best places to jeep are not anywhere near private ownership. It’s like if surfers had their own Hawaiian island to themselves.
wow ,, this tourmaline story was mind blowing to come up on u-tube by surprise.... i lived in la jolla for 40 years. first third, a half a block from beautiful windn'sea beach, then the second third, right up the street from south bird, then the last third,, back to a half a block from windn'sea beach again.....
my first year or so of learning how to surf was me and juan gamboa would walk from south bird to tourmaline, about 2 miles,, i would carry the 2 front noses of our 9'6" longboards, and Juan would carry the 2 tails,, tourmaline canyon was pure nature, no roads, nothing. there was a trail we walked down through the valley to the surf.... junk surf, but thats where we learned.... you could find giant fossilized shark teeth in that canyon. it was so beautiful.... just like la canada canyon in la jolla was before it was developed/ruined.....
then we learned how to ride waves good enough to ride beautiful sungold point,, i remember we were still major groms,, and when we walked down to the beach at the point, all the older surfers and their gals would all be naked on the beach to the left.... we were like, omg,, keep walking....lol
then we mastered the point, hair-mo's, hanomands, sewerline, south bird, huge north bird, and secret spots..... so after we got surfing dialed.... there were days when i would catch the biggest sets at outside hair-mo's, and get incredible down the line rides all the way to tourmaline....!!!! which is easily over a mile....!!!! so it was weird to kick out at tourmaline as a pro,, when that was where it all started for me..... then many years later, la jolla got ruined with to many rules and regulations, crowds, etc...... so me and my dog entered the time machine,, and moved 31 years ago to a very remote, lonely, coastline in northern California to a place like la jolla was in the 1800's and still is....
thank you all you beautiful surfers that showed me how beautiful surfing is with all of you beautiful different styles...... i love you all and miss you...... sincerely,
roy stockton.....☮💜🙂
Legit 🤙
Great story!
I love reading all of your comments. Thanks for providing background information.
Aloha. I love these old time videos of the area. Keep up the good work.
reporter should get credit here as well for asking constructive and meaningful questions amongst everyone, allowing them to speak and converse back to their points
Yes much like the current Democratic party
Yeah that was refreshing
"Because the surfer is one of the few individuals left." Well said, Mike.
all 500,000 of us out at tourmo. hah
@@Melis55a Not just a fad 'cause it's been goin' on so long...
It amazes me how well spoken young people were back in the day.
and polite. Dressed very nice.
How old are these young people you assume are young?
@@Earthstarsky anyone under 35 is a young person.
I would guess they are mid twenties.
@@DiogenesOfCa oh I see touché
@@DiogenesOfCa Probably early 20s. Didn't personally know these guys but I lived in the area surfing at 19. Know who they were.
i grew up surfing tourmaline canyon , from archer st. loring st, the cove, false point hermos,i loved the park close to home for alot of us groms, following guys like skip frye, bruce enns, margo, sandera, dale dobson ,what beautiful memories, bird rock elementary alumni,,we just to skateboard down that hill awsome memories,,,,,its good they put that park,,,
So fun to see this before the ramp/parking lot. Didn’t realize that Tourmaline dead-ended at the canyon, but it makes sense. It must have been before LJ Blvd cut through to Loring. I’m gonna have to go look up some Historical Society photos now.
I was born in Dec ‘63 - right around when this was filmed. I’m posting this from my native childhood home, where I now live again - on Chelsea at Southbird. I was at Bird Rock Elementary during the Rasmussen years.
My Dad took us to the Shores in those early years to surf, but once we were old enough to get around on bikes- we were at Law St or Old Man’s/Cove. Over time, we got more picky and I remember bravely paddling out at Southbird for the first time at 9 and getting acquainted with finger reef. After that, our playground became Windansea to PB point - whatever was walkable or bikeable.
Every day, I am pleasantly reminded of how fortunate we are to be connected with this amazing stretch of coastline - a beautiful surfing playground. Of course, with that comes a sense of custodianship, especially with so many visitors nowadays.
Special aloha to our PB/LJ family of local old timers, including these early legends and those who continue to carry the torch of preserving and maintaining beach access.
We may or may not know each other, but we are bonded through our local history that transcends time. See you in the water.
🌊
Great hanging out with you at the 40th, tell Billy I said Hello. Bill Woodard! When Mike is talking, you can see Jeff Bennetts grandfathers house above the lot.
I love looking up old photos just to see how shit has changed
Can you by any chance pin point the location of the street ? I want to find it but now it says it's cass st
@@edgar_leon1790 Take 5 East for 30 miles, good luck!
@@TheHopetown haha I know where la Jolla is and that area I just want to know the exact spot because it looks so different now.
Wish it still looked that way.
Used to frequent this beach when I moved here in 1981. Beautiful.
How much were houses there back then
@@MK-jq8ow don't know, as I was living in apartments then.
Lol I love how he says it’s flat but there’s plenty of runners coming through hahah. All I know is I could go out in that ANY DAY OF THE WEEK AND HAVE A BLAST!!! At 1:09 look above the blonde hair dude above his head lol there’s a perfect right just peeling with no one in sight trying to jam
Can't blame them, they had the best spots every day with little to no crowd, they were spoiled and probably were having way better surf than that on a regular basis.
PB Point can be good when it is really big. I got to surf with Mike Hynson there once about 20 years ago. ❤
I was surfing this area during the early 60s and don't remember this city fiasco. The Tourmaline canyon was never good but just south at Law street we had OK surf. They went ahead and built Tourmaline Surf Park but we never went there and I don't think anyone ever did. I think the city caved to the property owners who did not want to provide lawful access to the beach. That has been a problem since Balsa boards were used.
It's the most crowded surf spot in San Diego now...
@@ryankessler165 Scripps
Great! Keep posting old news stories!!
Haha! This is great! I learned to surf at Tourmaline, surfed there and hung out with my friends there for years.
Well spoken chaps with very reasonable perspectives.
The year Surfin USA came out, which mentions La Jolla.
Wow I was 13 then and vaguely remember this huge debate. My mom took up surfing in the 50’s surfing Malibu lots … where there was a tough bunch of extremely territorial guys. They had razor blades inserted into the tips of their boards with a point system … with kicking out at someone’s head (who had taken off in front of them) scored the highest points. But no idea how they dressed or spoke 😂 We moved to the North Shore Oahu ‘64 so lost track of how this all turned out. As a 13 year old never forget going to Santa Monica Auditorium to see Endless Summer … so much wonderful dreamy innocence … however, NS had it’s dark side back then too.
Aloha from North Shore Kaua’i.
Grew up surfing Crystal Pier and Law street as a kid… Tourmaline was always for beginners
It still is
Tourmaline has become a nice spot down here as longboarding gains interest, it also became the spot for everyone and their momma to learn.
I love surfing here when the waves are big or small, super chill.
However I do like the idea of them building a bunch of smaller access points along the coast instead
Mike Diffenderfer one of the All Time Great shapers breaks down a San Diego cluster
Those waves look fun for a groveler and I would take it any day on the East Coast :)
You don't know much about east coast do you.
@@koyotecow7102 20%
@Skipper Surf Review new symrna beach, mayport poles, Sebastián inlet just to name a few places that are almost on par with trestles rather than san diego especially during winter and hurricane season. If there are no waves go out on the boat.
@@koyotecow7102 good to know!! Have you ever been bitten by a shark at new Smyrna beach?
It’s funny that’s ‘flat’ for California haha
Thoughtful, articulate responses from Bill Caster. Hyson is vague when naming spots. Dif is correct; surfers go where the waves are best. Was San Diego really ever going to limit surfing?
The video shows empty crap waves. Same conditions today, attracts hundreds from team Costco.
Before you grew into the prejudice pro surfer you are now,you were once a novice beginnertoo,,or,team costco,as you label them,and,if you ever grow old enough to gain wisdom and the fragility that accompanies age,you too might find yourself surfing the gentle n predictable waves of tourmaline,think about it, whens the last time you saw a 70tr old cutting it up at wind n sea?
@@deand2668 I’m sorry I called the empty waves crap. Yes, empty and gentle. Just pointing out the contrast of today. Yes I was once a beginner too. I hope someday I’m lucky enough to be a beginner again. Wiser maybe yet fragile certainly.
Yeah tourmaline is indeed a crap wave.
… and that's fine. Team Costco roooolz Tourmaline!
@@bonsummers2657 For sure. Good for them. Also, like, don't you want kooks to go here?! As opposed to off the OB jetty?
Young Mike Hynson… what a ledge
Yep, in year or two after this interview, Endless Summer was calling.
CASTOR,HYNSON and DIFFENDERFED,Legends
Thanks for sharing their names. I wonder if they’re still with us.
@@Llamaguru Hynson, the blond dude is still kicking ,shaping boards and attending surfing events here and there.
@@Llamaguru Billy Caster passed in the 80' along with Diff,both had brain cancer
@@rasputinspickledpeepee1976 Appreciate the prop's brah,Happy New Year KR
@@genewest8426 Diffenderfer passed much more recently.
The guy was super cool, all class. Picked me up on the North Shore in 1990, when I needed a ride. It was great to just meet the man. Such a legend.
Hynson is a real one, too... I got a hand made 10' 6" Hynson single, made from a Walker blank back in the 90's. It was a good board.
These lucky kids, at the time, could buy a house near by just waiting tables or pumping gas.
Wow that’s crazy I’m 20 and those homes in La Jolla are 2 million minimum now.. if only I had a time machine lol.. my only hope is owning a beachfront property in Baja California lol
No they couldnt. Its no different now. YES, Im San Diego native and homes in North county were 9K but people were making $300 a month. Today million dollar homes but with a good job youre making 5k a month.
@@YourName-jm7lz I guess San Diego failed you education wise.. when wages on average are mid 50k and the homes in that area are in the millions that is not the same as making $300 a month when homes are 9k.
You could pay off 9k in 30 months then 😂😂 no one is paying off a La Jolla home in 30 months in 2023… you would need to make 50k a month 😂
Wow...constructive open dialogue without interruption. They even stayed on topic. Surfers wearing normal clothes, forming complete sentences without playing up stereotypes! Well done random people from the past. Sorry we have let you down hahaha!
My dad bodysurfed the pier mid-late ‘50’s, no fins no wetsuit, and always said only kooks need boards to surf haha.
The most crowded spot in San Diego.
That's because nobody these days let's regulator's regulate. It's always been this way "Code Of The Streets"
Rather - Sure bring another Wave Storm/ Jerry Lopez with your BLM shit, coexist sticker then Surf without any previous knowledge of surf etiquette, local respect and common RESPECT. It's like driving a car for the first time blind folded!
WTF are these people thinking. Not a fun fact! Common sense isn't common!!
I've been surfing tourmaline since about 1984 on big days is the best.
It's become so crowded that I just don't go there anymore.
Now I'm surfing at secret spot where they're only a couple hundred people.
@@HIPPIETHUG92109
Apollo893: "No one has respect anymore!"
Also Apollo893: "We need to physically assault all these people coming here with 'coexist' stickers on their car!"
@@KidFreshie🤣😂
@@michaelangelos5117 🤣😂
I stayed there for a month in a breadbox motorhome...june july 74....buddy broke his arm skateboarding down ramp....surf was soso....but plenty spots close by.....like the cat said.wind and sea was wild....wipe outs brutal....happy 2023....old guys rule
I used to live right across the street from this beach.
That house in the background would be worth $15 million today
Not worth but cost $15 million.🙉
I'm looking for Gidget
In the background is an actual point, PB point lol. Also, just the beach of tourmaline can get long rides. I'm afraid he's incorrect. :P
I agree. I used to surf that whole area often. It was also nice to have easy parking and a restroom facility. And on big days, the surf would break way out there. Yippee.
hahaha that's funny, you know more than those 3 legends. Yep, when there's a good swell, all the best surfers go to Tourmaline.🤣
^ Why are you getting all retarded? It's not cape st Francis, but you can get above average to excellent waves for a longboard at tourmo and pb point. Rides even up to around 30 seconds. What he said is objectively wrong regardless of how prominent he is.
That's one of the most irrational posts I've ever read lol. Are you ok? PB point and the beach at Tourmo aren't 'very poor' as he said. Doesn't matter who said it, it's false. They get good to excellent for a longboard a lot of the time.
@@clintjones9848 Oh yeah, I'm OK. I started surfing in 1974 in LaJolla. These guys are legends and I doubt they ever paddled out at Tourmaline. You go ahead and enjoy your long rides at Tourmaline. That's good for you. PB point can have great days, but I never paddled out from Tourmo.
Almost sixty years ago . . . Pretty cool!
Please note that there is no sound for the first 24 seconds, at least on my side.
Not a homeless person in site and people were respectful. AKA the good old days.
Yeah that was before the CIA let all the cocaine & now FENTYNAL into this country
Yes, Reagan defunded the loony bins and let them all out.. then property prices rised to serve the capitalists profiting off real estate.. then wages remained stagnated compared to inflation and productivity while corporations continue to have stock price growth..
mexico hadn't moved en mass to Southern California back then.
That's where I learned to surf back in the 60s.
North county rules. Swami’s.🤙
Grandview
Imagine if people communicated like this today.
Yes, it's both astounding and depressing to witness the disparity between how they talk in this video and the way people talk now. So much has been lost from this culture in so few years.
I surfed there during COVID Nazi Mandates and got detained by the police at 1 am, all the while BLM protesters were burning and looting in La Mesa and Downtown SD. LMAOOOOO
Loved walking out and still only knee depth and that wave just kept rolling, and rolling. Board would chatter too
Interesting how this surfer/swimmer conflict played out back then. Crazy local lawmakers coming up with such a draconian idea. Australian beaches have surfer zones and swimming zones - though swimmers aren't discouraged from surf zones, it's further from the flagged lifeguarded area. Some beaches do ban hard boards(Tamarama), but it's rare and time restricted so you can still surf there early. Classic breaks would never be affected and beach access is sacrosanct in Oz. Impressed how articulate those boys were, You would be lucky to get a proper sentence from many of the surfers I knew.
Surfers should be allowed to take a public pathway between the houses. 👍👍👍👍 🏄🏄♀️🏄♂️🏄🏄♀️🏄♂️
The problem was that there were no public accesses through the private property.
I like how well-mannered and dressed these young men are, unlike today's surfers who are rude, snotty and aggressive
Epic...
I grew up on Alison Street in Pb before the canyon parking lot the surf school is right there now 100s a day I stand on this very inch everyday have of and on for 63 years
Wow Mike was wrong Casper had it right, tourmaline is a good learning ground for surfers, and PB point is a good wave !!
Good comments
It's nice to see what Tourmaline looked like before the parking lot, bathrooms, and road down the hill. I know that the fear was that Tourmaline would be the ONLY place surfers were allowed, which would have been a true travesty, considering how much good surf San Diego has to offer. It is also hilarious to say that surfers wouldn't surf Tourmaline. Clearly, that is not the case. I love that spot and PB Point on the outside. They get crowded like bonkers these days, but this is the way of things. In hindsight, I'm proud to have surfed and competed at Tourmaline and that it's a bona fide "surfing park."
Hermos looks good
Lived on Law street at this time, just a kid with a heavy, clunky log, good fun,
How much did housing cost back then 😂 I’m so jealous hearing how much people paid to live in beautiful beachfront properties
Tourmaline point was pumping I th background.. who else has rode a wave from the point to the steps ?
Epic
Surfers then we’re very wise.
Hynson!
1:06 haha, pls ignore what is going on behind his head. really this was a great thing for SD surf, great place for beginners and such. it has its days
Incredible. Who found this...
Just one of many incredible film and video clips on the News 8 Throwback list. We kept everything shot locally since 1952.
California is so much better now with all the progress. No diversity back in the 1960's either. I hope Channel 8 has hired a diversity and inclusion manager by now to help correct the errors of the past.
Diversity isn’t the problem, it’s the Liberals
@@hangten1904 Reagan let all the crazies out when he defunded those Lonny bins… also NIMBYs kept new houses from being built and those old people didn’t want anything denser than a single family house to be built..
If we built multi family and 4 storey apartment buildings more we wouldn’t have such an insane housing crisis and we also put crazy homeless people in facilities.. thank you capitalism and than you Reagan for destroying California and America
@MK-jq8ow nope it's the liberals.
Amazing places
All beaches should have public access and facilities. Private property owners would still be able to see the ocean while they drink their martinis.
Main reason miss the 50’s / 60’s….. best surfers in the county speaking the truth and being badassas, while wearing cardigan and v-neck sweaters. Smart guys!
Marine St.
Nice up
Classic 💙
At the time, I was still an infant crawling around...👶(GOO)
Wow Mike looked like a kid then.........oh wait this was 60 years ago.
This problem very rarely happens in Hawaii except when mainland transplants (Californians) complain about access trails the surfers use.
In the mid and late 70's myself and a few bro's would be ripping pump house and no one around , Now , turmo parking lot is full of kooks.. Long live JR and Hawaiian Mike . RIP. my brother's
so coool, alohaaaaa
3 legends right here. I grew up just down the road. Couldnt surf a lick but sure was fun trying.
when he asked about the property owners i expected them to reply that they should move their homes back inland.
Is Mike Hynson still alive? I remember him from the Endless summer.
Some old timer told me that the film made tens of millions and he never received any money for co-starring in film?
He's alive. He and Robert August were paid to be in the film. At the time, Mike was pretty stoked on being out of the country as his draft number was about to come up. Bruce Brown, the maker of The Endless Summer, did give Mike and Robert some extra, I think a car? when the film met with a lot of success, but there was never a deal for either him or Robert to have a share in the film's profits. Check out his book, Transcendental Memories of A Surf Rebel.
We love & miss ya Diff! Rip Billy Caster! That’s the Windansea Surf Club Legends.
Well the turmos parking lot has more felons, pirates and tweaked then San Quentin and is home to San Diego’s largest Log Jams.
Lock your car, hide kids, arm your girlfriend!
You can tell that they would all rather be wearing bathing suits and surfing instead of being on television. Even the host.
Sadly, there is no Surf Club in the town of Chillingbourne.
Can all men go back to dressing like this everyday? They all look so handsome
1963. Yay
Unintentionally dissing long-boarders
They're all longboarders... This was at least 5 years before the first "shortboards" were anything but paipos and Simmons' craft.
@@anotherworldviewispossible true .. I meant todays long boarders who own that spot
@@GuitarWithBrett yeah...they $hit on it pretty hard... It's a small, mushy, junk surf spot most days... But I'll admit to having had some fun out there, in the Summer, mostly... It's kinda like Waikiki, but less power. It's all about attitude and expectations. I've seen Skip Frye run back and forth all over the spot. But eventually...he'd paddle off towards the Point and Bird Rock.
@@anotherworldviewispossible that’s awesome ! I was just surprised how they were naming all other spots as better, wasn’t expecting that so made me laugh. I grew up in Encinitas so didn’t surf much down south but lately surfing OB a lot since moved south. I still short board so avoid long board spots since I can’t compete ha. I do have a foamie I can prob take out at Tourmaline sometime. Sunset cliffs looks fun, surf there much ?
@@GuitarWithBrett Yeah cliffs are good, but kinda soft at most, and crowded at the better spots... I'm partial to Newbs when it's good...but at size, and with the right board, any can be fun.
Longboards have their moments and their merits. Odysees and Catch Surfs work pretty well, small or long - but Wavestorms are, pretty much, just garbage. I'd recommend grabbing a good size single fin classic shape log, and getting good at riding it. That way, even when it's small you have a board that works. Plus, it'll build up your leg strength. Once you can rip turns, land floaters, and hit the lip, on one of those - your shortboards will feel like they have wings.
Tourmaline 1969: ruclips.net/video/ZUNaC7pcHbM/видео.html
Young people with pride in appearance and themselves, that's evaporated now, society went backwards
Wow so even in 1963 it didnt have a surfable wave
i love when the news guys is asking him where the best surf is, how hard he is trying to not ACTUALLY name the best spots. haha
Lived right off Sapphire Street, Longboarders dominated the surf there. Usually small or flat. Great history 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Common sense from intelligent young men.Surfers were too free for the starched shirts.
Better times.
Mike also said "Man will never land on the Moon" "Women working is just a fad" and " This Amazon Prime thing will never catch on" 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Funny how the city is willing to bend over backwards when it wants something done, but when "residents" call for action they put the brakes on hard.....
Mike
" Ocean Beach "
Before the Jetty
We are still getting screwed on the spots and time of day where we can go out and surf , I go out till I’m told to move, cop life GAURD’s ahhhhhh😢
"GAURDS"....?
Spelling. Ahhhhhh!!
Shoulda gone to English class once in a while..
This is where the surf rebellion began
Before than that, in the mid 50's, there were surferes already living a dropout rebellious lifestyle.
Got my clothes and shoes stolen from my truck at Tourmaline. Drove home in my wetsuit.
Haha this city thought there were going to make a surfing reservation, concentrate the surfers, hahaha!😂
epic
😊
Imagine interviewing people their same age today. It would be unintelligible garbage lol.
That's what I was thinking. It seems like in all these old videos everyone sounds so much more intelligent and articulate.
Community guidelines....f Community globes and golf course. Good 💡 ⛳️ 🏌️♀️ ⛳️
Why does everyone back then sound more articulate?
Because they were?
Tourmaline - what a shitty wave. In 60 years of surfing, I surfed it a total of once. And that was once too much.
Great place to be a kook, where I learned to surf.
LJUKNOW!!!!!!