Analyzing Evil: The Green Goblin From Spiderman And The MCU
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Hello everyone and welcome to the one hundred third episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villains for this video is The Green Goblin From Spiderman and The MCU. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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Mixed up the episode counts for this week and next weeks episode. Sorry about that everyone!
Please do a video on Ra's Al Ghul from batman begins and tdkr.
Please do a video on Zeus from God of war
Always hyped to see your videos man, no worries! i would love to see the Alien franchise analyzed by you.
The clean goblin >:v)
Leonard Shelby from Memento would be a great video.
I want to personally give an award to every single one of Willem Dafoe's facial expressions. The man was literally _born_ to play the Goblin.
Those faces you'd swear he's a goblin IRL
I don’t think they could’ve pick a better person to play him
It was for this reason that I always thought he'd make a great Joker too
@@blakelip3 just think he fought so hard to get the role like he wasn’t a sure thing
@@TheSukari he’d be the 3rd to win an Oscar for that role I know it for certain
"Norman's on sabbatical, Hunnie" has to be one of the most chilling, exciting and darkest, funniest deliveries of any line in all the Spiderman movies.
Immediately the audience goes from "isn't this nice" to "Oh fuck..." Of all the villains to get inside the comfort bubble and suddenly turn out to be in control, the scariest of them would of been the Raimi Goblin.
Yeah because out of all of them the goblin is truly ruthless and evil aside from his Norman persona.
Love that line. The only part from that scene that tops it for me is when the Goblin has his "Joker" moment, when Peter is punching hom in the face and he just starts laughing maniacally
Ngl the hunnie almost killed it for me… But him getting punched in the face and laughing got me back..
THE MOST EVIL 😈 CHARACTER OF SPIDER-MAN MOVIE AND THE MCU GREEN GOBLIN 🔥
What makes this Goblin work is how even Norman’s scared of him. He’s hardly a good guy, but Norman’s ruthlessness pales in comparison to the Goblin, yet he can’t do anything once his darker half comes out. And because Goblin is downright Nietzschean, he sees Spider-Man’s altruism as the ultimate offense to his lifestyle.
I think that's the one part where this Goblin fails tbh. In the comics it's the exact opposite, Norman is a force to be reckoned with & his schemes are regularly thrown off by the chaotic goofiness of the Goblin. Goblin is dangerous, but Norman's ambitions of world dominance by any means are far more-so; the worst situation for Spider-Man is a Norman free of the Goblin persona, able to focus all of his power & resources towards a singular goal with unflinching ruthlessness. When this happens, we get what happened in Dark Reign.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no Perhaps, but the Raimi Goblin model fit Spider-Man’s more small-scale stakes at the time. Plus it ties back into Raimi’s 30s horror obsession with the Jeckyl/Hyde inspiration for the character. And Dafoe plays both sides really well.
@@benwasserman8223 Yeah it's a great performance, I just wish they didn't make Norman a pushover to highlight the Goblin. Both of them are villains, Norman isn't some NPC
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no Agreed family.
It comes across better on film to have it the way they did , the comic book iteration of the gob would have come across as hacky and to comedic when they wanted a more serious foil
What makes this Green Goblin so great is
1. He is to Spiderman just as Joker is to Batman. He is constantly trying to push Spiderman over the edge. He is that little voice in everyone's telling them to do the bad, feel good things
2. He pushed two different Spiderman to their limits.
I (as well as the rest of the audience) gasped when Goblin stabbed Toby's Spiderman.
You should do Dock Ock from Raimi's Spiderman.
He’s also so great bc just like the Joker to Batman, the Green Goblin is so good at attacking Spider-Man’s weaknesses, and thus testing Spider-Man’s inner strength
spider-man is a fusion of superman and batman,and norman osborn is lex luthor and green goblin the joker. Spider-man can be light(superman) and dark(batman), norman osborn is lex luthor(light) and green goblin is joker(dark).
Ock honestly isn’t a villain for the movies as he isn’t one hundred percent in control.
@@kennethcrawford341 for now
I sense they sparkled a little two face
Imagine if Eric Cartman from South Park got video on analyzing evil😂
April fool's video? That could be great
I’ve been wanting that video, honestly there’s a lot to cover
he should though
I’ve said this a year ago. Make it happen vileeye fr
the serious, foreboding voice would kill me with the background of a cartoon with children
William Dafoe is the best actor for Green Goblin! He's something of a Green Goblin himself.
Absolutely. In fact, this film was my first introduction to William Dafoe and I have seen him in great performances like The Lighthouse.
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American Psycho is what led him to Spiderman
And his portrayal of Jesus back in the late 80s pays a fun homage when Spider-Man covered him in a blanket
@@joscar062 Patrick Bateman was Dafoe!?!?
@@cesarcastillo7129
Willem played Donald Kimble (If I'm not mistaken on the name) the private investigator
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I mean if you think about it TDK suit took inspiration from Goblin armor
When he said “We’ll meet again, Spider-Man!” That really resonated with me.
As goofy as the line is, I actually love it for some reason 😂
@@owenyoung9915 Tbf the Raimi movies are like a comic book on the big screen.
19 years later...
For me, it was morbin time. Truly.
@@Jettfighter it took the sith a thousand
I really love the Jekyll and Hyde dynamic with Norman and the Goblin. While Norman was not the perfect man before, the Goblin personified the worst traits of him taken to the extreme
Especially in No Way Home. It's just scary to see him as this helpless, helpful old man and then as this absolute monster
It's very cool, almost like the serum that Captain America took. It exaggerates the strongest personality traits of an individual. So someone who was flawed and not a great person like Norman becomes evil. While someone who is genuinely a good person becomes the best person like Steve Rogers
@@darthtyrex We all saw how badly that can go with Venture Bros, like with Action Man and Sergeant Slaughter.
Spiderman brings the best out of Peter, Green Goblin brings the worst out of Norman.
@@darthtyrex well, if you watch the movie again, you would heard that they were doing this for the soldier, they did test (probably in rats) Norman want to test on human so his work would not be thrown in the garbage, is implied they have a time limit, but he co-worker was honest and said that the serum has it flaws, it make them stronger but also more violent, agressive even "mad".
Is interesting he use the word "mad" because violent and agressive are already enough words. Norman says that itnwas just one of them, and also ask what else to do then, his co-worker said that they have to re-create the serum from the start, and Norman just could not fathom. Later we now Norman try it himself with help of his co-worker, and this result and what we know now.
I met Willem while on vacation awhile back in New Orleans. Dude was walking around, no security, just sneaker shopping at the same place I was. Super cool dude, and an amazing actor.
I'd say the only small detail you missed was Norman Osbourne's love/fascination with Japanese Warriors and Japanese Masks in general. Which may also lean into his Green Goblin persona's philosophy, strong warriors taking what they want? That and the Green Goblin Mask was seemingly inspired/based on these same masks, potentially the entire battlesuit was? It's a subtle detail that's easy to overlook, but it's also more obvious when watching scenes like Norman and the Goblin's first conversation with the mirror. And the second scene with Norman by the fire and the Goblin Mask on the chair, you can see a bunch of the masks in both of those scenes. Goblin also specifically starts talking about how a cunning warrior would strike neither mind or body first, but the heart!
They weren't Japanese masks, there were a few, but they were masks from all over the world
Oh my God Norman Osborne was a weeb the entire time…
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Fun fact:Steve Ditko originally wanted Osborne to be a homeless man that was let in by aunt May but then Stan Lee wanted gave us the Green Goblin we know today.
It’s very interesting as that kind of gives us a window into the personal philosophies. Everyone knows Ditko was actually a really hardline libertarian right-wing Objectivist, and Lee was obviously more of a hippie type (if not in name, then in demeanor). Interesting to see how Ditko seemingly wanted to warn against “kindness to the downtrodden” by benefactors, and Lee the wanted him to be a ruthless capitalist tech genius (like a Lex Luthor with a Mr Hyde twist).
@@YungM.D. if you think about we got both stories in the movies
Weird how what you said relates a lot to the the Osborne in No Way Home which is basically a nod to Steve Ditko's I'm guessing. He was homeless, Aunt May let him in F.E.A.S.T.
@@YungM.D. norman osborn is lex luthor(light evil) and the green goblin is the joker(dark evil).
@@YungM.D. Same for spider-man. Both peter parker and spider-man are the fusion of clark kent/kal el(light good),bruce wayne(dark good) and superman(light good) and batman(dark good). In short superman and batman are, an ☀💙❤️angel of light(superman) and a 👿🦇dark demon(batman),and spider-man is a fusion of both(an angel/demon). Spider-man is more angel than demon tho.
As soon as I saw this notification, I instantly clicked on it. I’m glad that the Raimiverse/MCU Green Goblin is finally being covered, as he’s one of the most iconic comic book villains in both film and comics. Willem Dafoe was perfect in the role as well, as he striddled the line between a terrifying, insane, creepy, sadistic and maniacal monster with a human side that’s compassionate, ambitious, flawed yet remorseful and genuinely cares about others. His quotes are just as iconic, from “back to formula?”, “you’re struggling to have everything you want while the world tries to make you choose.“, to “you know how much I sacrificed?!”.
To add on, one moment we get humorous lines like "I'm something of a scientist myself." The next moment or scene, it's serious ones such as "But the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you."
I had never thought about this, if I'm being honest
Joker is way more iconic
He should do homelander next.
Wake up, little spider… 😉
"Struggling to have everything you want, while the world tries to make you choose. Gods don't have to choose.
We take."
I swear Dafoe is the kind of actor that if someone asked him to do a biopic of, let's say Lou Reed, he'd go all in. He's that awesome.
"Strong enough to have it all... TOO WEAK TO TAKE IT"
for some reason that line stuck with me for a long time.
Absolutely.
9:04 The Green Goblin personality is basically the embodiment of Norman's desire for power, a part of him that thinks that with his superhuman strength and intelligence he's a god who can do what he wants and tries to convince both his world's and the MCU's Peter of the same and does convince Electro.
Really, him being in the MCU, where there are real gods, just amplified all of this. It justified to him that he could be a god
@@carlycrays2831 Whereas in the Raimiverse the only superpowered beings were him, Spider-Man, Harry, Sandman and Venom.
@@Xehanort10 And at the time, Venom was not nearly as comiscally connected as it is now.
Nah he’s more complex than that plus the Goblin isn’t Norman desires released , he’s Crazy the two have no connecting desires. Hence the insanity side affect.
@@Xehanort10 And Norman/Goblin represents the kind of person Peter/Spiderman could have become if he never outgrew his selfishness. Norman using his powers for selfish purposes is exactly how Peter started out, by using his powers for personal gain. Norman and Peter are two sides of the same coin and both know it.
I like to think of Norman as Peter's opposite. While Peter is often portrayed as selfless, generous and kind hearted. Norman on the other hand is ruthless, greedy and cruel. The same goes for their alter egos to some extent. Spider-Man allows Peter to be cool, brave and confident in a way that he never could as Peter. Likewise the Green goblin allows Norman to shed his gentlemanly facade, become completely unhinged and give into his sociopathic tendencies.
I think Otto Octavius is a bad and irresponsible version of Peter as a scientist, Eddie Brock is a bad and irresponsible version of Peter as a Daily Bugle employee, and Norman Osborn is a bad and irresponsible version of Peter as a family man.
Norman tries to convince Peter is like a son to him by the end of first Spider-Man but Peter responds “I have a father and his name is Ben Parker” denying Norman’s fake parenting. Norman neglects Harry both in the Raimi version and even more in the comics. Norman could have killed Harry during the festival as well. Norman cares more about maintaining power and cold to his family because of it. Peter learns not to be cold to his family and not choose power over family like Norman wanted him to.
Norman tortures Peter by threatening and killing his family as Green Goblin.
Also to add to that fact, that Peter Parker is dirt poor and always struggling with money while Norman Osborn is completely rich and wealthy and has a successful running business and company.
And ultimately, Norman's main goal is absolute and limitless power without responsibilities towards others, which makes him the perfect enemy to Peter, the man whose mantra is with great power comes great responsibility.
@@jorgebersabe293 I like it in Spectacular Spider-man. Where Norman's catchphrase is "I never apologize." Which if you think about it, is the exact opposite of Peter's "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibliity" since Norman is basically saying that he isn't taking responability for any bad things he's done.
@@fbiuzz Norman is what Peter could have been if he was more ambitious and had less concern for the welfare of others. In fact, Norman using his power selfishly is exactly how Peter started out: by using his powers selfishly and for personal gain.
I think Norman was being genuine at first when he left his universe. The goblin was just hiding underneath waiting to see where things go before acting
This could be symbolized by the goblin armor being worn underneath Norman's clothes, but it also could be that he wasn't wearing much underneath it, and that kind of tech you wouldn't want to leave laying in an alleyway anyway
The Bible is truth. The key to understanding that is in the inner work Jesus Christ taught. Forgiveness heals a part of your soul that keeps you blind to the spiritual realm. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s only once you do the things you need God to do for you that everything clicks. Please look inside and work though your inner drama. We all have issues with our parents. Start there. Forgive them genuinely from within. Then breaking down before Jesus Christ and asking for forgiveness makes more sense. As you do what he taught, truth reveals itself. Please, at least read three books of the Bible in your lifetime. Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. Please trust me. See what happens when you open your heart.
Jesus Christ is the way truth and life.
@@jamesmayle3787 what
@@ethanisnotsleepingChristians can barely function or socialize
The most interesting description I ever heard of Green Goblin was that the serum doesn't turn him into an "evil" version of Norman, but rather cranks up everything good and bad to 11. I would love to see how this can be portrayed in a way that is more clear, given how set in stone the Jekyll/Hyde concept is for most audiences.
Raimi spider man the spiders in the lab were said to have 4x the strength of regular spiders
Osbourne while getting his body enhanced the computer says everything is raised 400%
So it’s 17 year old with 400% strength increase
Against a full grown man with 400% boost
Without the Spider sense he would’ve gotten owned
That is an interesting take. I bet Norman was always prone to violence and evil desires - he just hid it under a façade of professionalism, very much like Patrick Bateman in "American Psycho" (which, ironically, also stars Willem Dafoe). Now that you mention it, the Raimiverse serum was just another universe's version of Dr. Erskine's serum from the MCU. The Green Goblin and Red Skull are extremely similar in that regard - hell, even Abomination, for that matter. Erskine even says that the serum takes an already-established personality and moral code and amplifies it.
"Good becomes great, bad becomes worse".
Another great video, Loved Willem Dafoe's Goblin & a Small fact In Spider-Man No Way Home that I love they Brought Back was The small difference between Norman Osborn & Green Goblin’s teeth. When Willem Dafoe is Norman he wears false teeth and when he’s the Goblin he shows his natural gapped teeth.
Always fun to catch in the films.
You got great taste in videos dude.
Howdy brother JaxBlade!
💪🗿🙏
Green Goblin Workout?
Or is that just steroids?
The Bible is truth. The key to understanding that is in the inner work Jesus Christ taught. Forgiveness heals a part of your soul that keeps you blind to the spiritual realm. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s only once you do the things you need God to do for you that everything clicks. Please look inside and work though your inner drama. We all have issues with our parents. Start there. Forgive them genuinely from within. Then breaking down before Jesus Christ and asking for forgiveness makes more sense. As you do what he taught, truth reveals itself. Please, at least read three books of the Bible in your lifetime. Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. Please trust me. See what happens when you open your heart.
Jesus Christ is the way truth and life.
I think Norman qualifies as a Magnificent Bastard villain, where he revels in his wickedness and you can't help but love and hate him at the same time for it.
I like how Green Goblin is essentially an allegory for Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde with Norman taking a formula that opens up the gateway for his darker half and unfilled ambitions to be brought to the surface with no one suspecting that a "good" man like Norman would be capable of such atrocities upon society. Plus, the fact that he's schizophrenic in the films just makes that tie together so well. You know you're evil when you literally have to *cured* of it for life to return to normal.
Only willem could do this role so perfectly
LOVED Dafoe as Osborn and the Green Goblin. That cackle, that hammy evil that is a staple of the Goblin, and those expressions he makes, it was the role he was meant for and he is clearly having so much fun with it. If there is any other Green Goblin I think compares at all, it's his portrayal in the animated show Spectacular Spider-Man.
The one I'd still love to see you do a video of is Judge Doom from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit". He terrified me(and probably many others) as a young child when I first saw the movie in theaters back in the 80s, and it was definitely an iconic performance from Christopher Lloyd.
Willem Dafoe was the perfect casting for Norman Osborn/Green Goblin and no one else comes even close in terms of Spider-Man's rogue's gallery as the web-slinger's arch-nemesis.
Here are a few suggestions for your next video VE:
-The NFFA from the Purge franchise(Film)
-Handsome Jack from Borderlands(Video Game)
-Obadiah Hakeswill from the Sharpe series(TV Show)
I always thought venom was his arch-nemesis. same powers but stronger and he is invisible to his spider sense. and knows everything about him
I feel like you should receive an award for being someone who spells "rogue" correctly on the Internet.
Eric Cartman for the next episode of *Analyzing Evil By The Vile Eye*
@@rockaveli1013 You can say that he was his secondary arch-nemesis. But they became friends later on and it was said and done. Green Goblin is and always will be Spider-Man's Joker.
@@l.pricetag.5207 Technically it is spelled Rogues' Gallery or Rogues Gallery.
What really impacted me as a kid was watching Willem Dafoe go from his performance in Platoon to this. I couldn’t believe it was the same person
What I love about Willem DaFoe as Green Goblin is that he did a great job portraying on what it’s like to have a dissociative identity disorder with both Norman and Green Goblin having that Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde duo
It's what makes him so scary in No Way Home. He really is just a very sick, helpless old man, exactly the sort Aunt May wants to help.
DaFoe did a phenomenal job with Norman and the Goblin but let’s not lie here. The Green Goblin is a great character, yes, but definitely not a good portrayal of DID lmao
Love it, long overdue!
Couple of ideas:
Boardwalk Empire - hard to pick a specific character, perhaps Nucky Thompson himself, or a villain like Rosetti or Narcisse. Or even Boardwalk Empire as a whole, as just about every character can be considered evil in some way.
Sons of Anarchy - although it can be a bit clunky with its characterisation at times, either Clay Morrow or Agent Stahl would be interesting.
Finally, change of direction entirely, but Bojack Horseman would be a fascinating study.
Willem Dafoe as the Green Goblin is one of the best comic book villain castings ever for me. The perfect actor to play my favourite Spider-Man villain ever and one of my favourite comic book villains ever.
The Bible is truth. The key to understanding that is in the inner work Jesus Christ taught. Forgiveness heals a part of your soul that keeps you blind to the spiritual realm. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s only once you do the things you need God to do for you that everything clicks. Please look inside and work though your inner drama. We all have issues with our parents. Start there. Forgive them genuinely from within. Then breaking down before Jesus Christ and asking for forgiveness makes more sense. As you do what he taught, truth reveals itself. Please, at least read three books of the Bible in your lifetime. Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. Please trust me. See what happens when you open your heart.
Jesus Christ is the way truth and life.
Man, Willem Dafoe is a great actor. He uses every tool at his desposal perfectly.
His body, face, eyes, his voice, everything.
The biggest giveaway to determine whether Norman or The Goblin is in control is in his eyes. As Norman, they are bright and lively, but as The Goblin, they are squinting and cold. In his final moments before being impaled by his glider, one eye is open while the other is squinting, showing Norman was still fighting The Goblin, but losing.
Harry was the son that Norman had, Peter is the son he hoped to have..eager, hard working, creative, and brilliant. Harry was none of these and he's secretly jealous of the attention and enthusiasm lavished on Peter...things that Harry believed he was entitled to... that's Harry's flaw: entitlement.
Green Goblin has always been my favorite villain from the Marvel films. Sadistic, manipulative, and always motivated to make Spider-man suffer above all else. It's no surprise he killed May in No Way Home. He was just not satisfied he couldn't have finished the job long ago.
If you do analyze another version of Green Goblin, I'd recommend the version from the "Spectacular Spiderman" television series.
Wished that show was finished tho.
It's insane and such a missed opportunity that he hasn't once played the Joker. He literally has the perfect facial structure for him.
Nah, at this point, he's the Green Goblin
The Bible is truth. The key to understanding that is in the inner work Jesus Christ taught. Forgiveness heals a part of your soul that keeps you blind to the spiritual realm. To be forgiven we must forgive. It’s only once you do the things you need God to do for you that everything clicks. Please look inside and work though your inner drama. We all have issues with our parents. Start there. Forgive them genuinely from within. Then breaking down before Jesus Christ and asking for forgiveness makes more sense. As you do what he taught, truth reveals itself. Please, at least read three books of the Bible in your lifetime. Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. Please trust me. See what happens when you open your heart.
Jesus Christ is the way truth and life.
@@jamesmayle3787 AMEN of course Dafoe play a version of Jesus in a revisionist controversial film.
Noooo Jim Carrey needs to play the joker
@@stviallin8999 We've had enough Joker's already Phoenix version was very disturbing.
Poor Harry, he's gone through what so many men have endured in their childhoods- their fathers telling them they aren't worthy of love. Norman telling his son that MJ couldn't love him for anything other than his money and power directly translates to him not seeing the good qualities in Harry.
I’m upset the third movie killed him off…I wanted to see him heal!
@@twindrill2852 me too!! Even as a kid, I believed Harry had the potential to get better.
Norman Osborn / Green Goblin was already an amazing Marvel movie villain in the original Raimi Spider-Man movie, but Willem Dafoe came back as the character with a vengeance in No Way Home and surpassed Thanos as perhaps the greatest Marvel movie villain of all time
LOL No, you're exaggerating too much here. He's fantastic but he's not surpassing Thanos at all. The movie DID solidify that the Green Goblin IS Spider-man's archnemsis for ALL audiences to know.
I think the Green Goblin from Spectacular Spiderman would make for another interesting analysing evil episode. This version of Norman Osbourne willingly threw his own son under the bus to avoid being a suspect and from what I remember he was fully self aware whenever he donned the Goblin persona 😲👍
Excellent video, I do wonder how far Green Goblin would have gotten had he triumphed in No Way Home. Could be a fun future episode of "What If?"
Ideas for future videos-
Baltimore and its various institutions - The Wire
Bojack Horseman - Bojack Horseman/the horse from horsin around
Monika- Doki Doki Literature Club
Arthas- Warcraft
Silco-arcane
The thing is, there are bigger fish in the MCU than just Spiderman. And he doesn't have access to his money and resources. I don't think he would have gotten far unless he teamed up with HYDRA remnants
I liked the jekyll and hyde aspect of Defoe's character. In a lot of ways it mirrors a lot of what happens with dissociative identity disorder. Different emotions get tied directly to the different identities and trigger their emergence. Like the goblin was tied to norman's negative emotions anger, aggression, bitterness, his vanity, and selfishness.
I honestly didn't think this version was Osborn was a bad guy before watching this. He seems like a decent guy who just wants his son to be better, but obviously pushes him to be someone Harry doesn't want to. But he seemed like just a typical honest business man, interesting to see these perspectives
To me the Goblin is the most terrifying movie Spiderman villain. Simply because out of the other villains he's the one that doesn't just kill, but enjoys to do so. The Goblin can also trick you with the Norman Osborn persona to make you feel safe only to stab you in the back. And what's worse is that he's something of a scientist himself.
The way he came off as a regular homeless man in need of help in NWH was a great call back to the original concept, acted beautifully by Dafoe
I always loved Raimi’s Green Goblin, but this breakdown of his character has skyrocketed him even further for me as one of the GREATEST Superhero movie villains ever. What a complex and fascinating character
Now HERE is the episode I’ve been waiting for!
Man I still remember watching this movie in theaters when I was a little kid! Awesome analysis as usual!
Amazing choice. Been looking forward to this one. For future choices, You should do Dio from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure, the novel/Francis Ford Coppola version of Dracula, the DC animated universe version of Lex Luthor, any of the villians from Fargo, especially Lorne Malvo or Colonel Jessep from A Few Good Men.
Vile: "Something of a scientist"
Me: *Leo points*!
one can technically argue that norman represents what peter could've grown up to become had he not experienced the right kind of tragedy to motivate him to become spider-man
hats off to JJJ for not ratting out Peter Parker on those Spiderman pictures
Great job! It's amazing how much you can learn about a character by pausing to read a newspaper article. I hope you'll make a video about Otto Octavius!
Lorne Malvo, Billy Bob Thornton's character from Fargo season one, would be an exceptionally interesting subject for a video. Dude is 100% chaotic evil, but has a way of making it almost look like it's just a bit of mischief.
YES!!!! Easily the scariest on screen villain ever.
Would still love to see this...😁
@@AshDub86 You and I both
Man, that thanksgiving scene is so great. I never put too much thought into it like you analyzed it. Great video and always fun watching, thanks for the content man!!
I think Norman always loved Harry but he didnt know how to show it and the only way he knew how to show it was trough money.
What I love about the Goblin is that he lives on in the rest of the trilogy through Harry.
I’m not a patron but I do have a huge list of characters I’d love to see you cover, such as:
Syndrome from the Incredibles
Homelander from the Boys
Alejandro from Sicario
Oh Il-Nam, The Front Man & the VIPs from Squid Game
Dr. Strangelove from Dr. Strangelove
Eleanor Iselin from the Manchurian Candidate
Dr. Szell from Marathon Man
Norma Desmond from Sunset Blvd
Phyllis Dietrichson from Double Indemnity
Colonel Jessup from A Few Good Men
Richie Cusack from A History of Violence
Raul Menendez from COD Black Ops 2
James Coughlin from the Town
Colonel Saito from Bridge on the River Kwai
Avon Barksdale from the Wire
Ze Pequeno & the city of Rio de Janeiro from City of God
Jack Wilson from Shane
Mr. Blonde & the Reservoir Dogs from Reservoir Dogs
General Shepherd from COD Modern Warfare
Jason Vorhees from Friday the 13th
Percy Wetmore from The Green Mile
Vecna from Stranger Things
Michael, Franklin and Trevor from GTA 5
Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs
Frieza from Dragon Ball Z
Magneto from X-Men
President Snow from The Hunger Games
William Tavington from the Patriot
Pablo Escobar from Narcos/Real Life
Ghost face from Scream
Scorpio from Dirty Harry
Vincent Vega from Pulp Fiction
Samara from the Ring
Colonel Quaritch from Avatar
Mayor Vaughn from Jaws
Frank from All Quiet on the Western Front
Negan from the Walking Dead
Bane from the Dark Knight Rises
Killmonger from Black Panther
Zoran Lazarevic from Uncharted 2
Regan McNeill from the Exorcist
Messala from Ben-Hurr
Jake LaMotta from Raging Bull
Marty and Wendy Byrd from Ozark
Zeus from God of War
The Templar Order from Assassin’s Creed
Lancaster Dodd from The Master
Ra’s Al Ghul from Batman Begins
Ramses from the Prince of Egypt
Errol Childress from True Detective
The Kim Family from Parasite
Vaas Montenegro from Far Cry 3
Albert Wesker, Oswald Spencer & the Umbrella Corporation from Resident Evil
Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty
Joseph Wilford from Snowpiercer
Robert Ford from West World
Sir Reginald Hargreeves from Umbrella Academy
Thomas Shelby from Peaky Blinders
The Republic of Gilead from The Handmaid’s Tale
Elijah Glass from Unbreakable
The Continental from John Wick
Tom Chaney from True Grit
Ethan Edwards from The Searchers
Damien from the Omen
Khan Singh from Star Trek
Frank from Donnie Darko
Officer Tenpenny from GTA San Andreas
Pagan Minh from Far Cry 4
The Harga from Midsommar
Art the Clown from Terrifier 1 & 2
Tom Buchanan from the Great Gatsby
Soldier Boy from The Boys
Bonnie & Clyde from Bonnie & Clyde
Jax Teller from Sons of Anarchy
Tyrell Wellick from Mr. Robot
Here’s to hoping you see this because I cannot comment this every week. Might join Patron just to repost though, will see
Here are some more names I forgot:
Gyp Rossetti from Boardwalk Empire
Bishop from Juice
Crenshaw Mafia from Boyz n the Hood
Dr Octopus from Spider-Man 2
Ray Donovan from Ray Donovan
Nina Myers from 24
Immortan Joe from Mad Max Fury Road
Megatron from Transformers
Francis Underwood from House of Cards
Long John Silver from Treasure Island
The Master from Dr Who
Amanda Waller from Suicide Squad/DC Comics
Nucky Thompson from Boardwalk Empire
G-Man from Half Life
Gerald of Rivia from the Witcher
The Punisher from Marvel
Lotso from Toy Story 3
Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls
Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2
Eren Yeager from Attack on Titan
Goro Majima from Yakuza
Shao Khan from Mortal Kombat
Eric Cartman from South Park
Joseph Seed from Far Cry 5
Sosuke Aizen from Bleach
Nemesis from Horizon Games
The Governor from Walking Dead
Kingpin from Daredevil
Eobard Thawne from the Flash
Dudley Smith from LA Confidential
Light Yagami from Death Note
Tai Lung from Kung Fu
James Delaney from Taboo
Judge Doom from Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Fire Lord Ozai from The Last Airbender
Omni Man from Invincible
Herr Starr from Preacher
The Homunculi from Full Metal Alchemist
Bojack from Bojack Horseman
Smaug from the Hobbit Series
Grimmel from How to Train your Dragon
Ivan Drago from Rocky IV
Sweeney Todd from Sweeney Todd Demon Barber
Xerxes from 300
Barry Berkman from Barry
Sheriff Teasle from First Blood
Stuart Richards from Cruising
Conal Cochrane from Halloween 3
Mola Ram from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
John Kreese from Karate Kid/Cobra Kai
Black Lodge from Twin Peaks
Nancy Downs from the Craft
Catherine Tramell from Basic Instinct
V from V for Vendetta
Ma-Ma from Dredd
Nathan Bateman from Ex Machina
Joe Goldberg from You
Detective Mackey from Shield
Silco from Arcane
Arthas Menehil from Warcraft
Howard Ratner from Uncut Gems
Admittedly, I put some of these on here from looking at what other people had commented, but yeah. Love your channel! Can’t wait for more videos.
@@conormcginn3312 I also would love to see:
Ursula from The Little Mermaid
Sephiroth from Final Fantasy VII
Seifer from Final Fantasy VIII
Rinoa/Ultimecia from Final Fantasy VIII
The Joker from the Batman: Arkham series
The Illuminati from the Deus Ex series
Howard Howe from Tusk
Shinra Corporation from Final Fantasy VII
The Byrde Family from Ozark
The Navarro Cartel from Ozark
The world of Detroit: Become Human
Kuvira from The Legend of Korra
Amon from The Legend of Korra
Zaheer from The Legend of Korra
Cozy Glow from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Queen Chrysalis from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Tirek from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Opaline from My Little Pony G5
Scarecrow from the Batman: Arkham series
Shadar from Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Cassiopeia/the White Witch from Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Talion and Celebrimbor from Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War
Imhotep from The Mummy series
The Madrigal Family from Encanto
Kefka from Final Fantasy VI
Grove Street from GTA San Andreas
I dont think that V or Vincent vega are that evil. Marsellus wallace and Adam sutler would be more fitting for this channel
Other versions of Norman Osborn that would be interesting to analyze are the comic book version , PS4, and Spectacular Spider-Man versions
I would love to see one for Nina Myers from “24.” The best villain from the “24” franchise. And if you go the anti-hero route again I’d love Ray Donovan from “Ray Donovan.” Someone who would fit right along with Walter White or Tony Soprano.
I remember thinking it was funny for Harry to call his dad "Stormin' Norman" behind his back when I was a kid, but now it's just kind of sad, especially when I looked it up, and the Spanish translation for that same line in the script was calling Norman "El Generalisimo" - not very flattering!
This character spawned the phrase ‘Goblinism’ among my friend group.
Hope we can see one of these for Sauron sometime
Phenomenal analysis as always Vile Eye! My suggestion for a future video would be that you analyze the evil of the character “Bishop” from the film “Juice”.
“Something of a scientist” made me die laughing
He's basically an evil version of MCU Captain America, with a split personality thrown in.
One villain I’d love for you to cover is Insomniac’s Doctor Octopus. The Raimi one too, but Insomniac’s is just the best.
Norman to Octavius: Your death punch totally blows
Octavius to Norman: I'll kill you!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
He is just a man who appreciates the McRib just a liiiiittle too much.
Norman had a personality disorder at first after he tested the unstable enhancement serum leading to the darker half to kill and destroy after the wrongful death while at the present day in NYC he ran to the feast center and help parker cure octavius with a new microchip octavius knew the gobiln could be trouble and responsible for May's death caused parker blinded by revenge to cause a same fate but peter#2 prevented Parker from doing so to not make the same mistakes they caused when Norman was cured to start anew.
Been waiting for this great video.
LOL I LOVE the sarcasm at 6:04 about Norman, Very nicely done!
Awesome thanks for covering one of my favourite spiderman villans I always liked the Green goblin from the 1990s spiderman cartoon 😎👍
I'm a DC guy most of the time but damn, the Raimi Spider-man films I grew up on loving, Willems Goblin is as iconic as Heath Leadgers Joker, there, I said it! I love his costume and just the story in general. And seeing him again being the big bad in Spider-man NWH just makes it better. Fabulous!
0:46 Green Goblin's variation in Spectacular Spider-Man would make a great video! He's different enough from the movie versions, but still so utterly ruthless.
Would be pretty cool if you did an analyzing evil on the Harry Osborne and the New Goblin from Spider-Man 2 and 3
I'd love to see an Analyzing Evil of The Master from Doctor Who
Till this day I still wished Defoe would play the Joker. Will never see it happen but man he would have nailed it.
I personally disagree. He already nailed the Green Goblin so well that playing the joker would just feel cheap and redundant.
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Plus he already landed a role in Aquaman
I could see that performance.He just old so the character demands alot of action.I just think we've gotten enough Joker films already.
Bro is really one of the best comic book super villains of all time outside of the MCU then went into the MCU and became one of the best comic book villains in the MCU and then dipped, like the true Chad he is.
I enjoy these videos so much. Seriously love the variety from film, comics, manga/anime, and tv. I appreciate all the hard work you put in these videos man!
i’ve always been wanting a MCU one on this channel, and green goblin is on my top of the list
LOL THANOS has already been reviewed before. MCU has been covered before hand.
The Vile Eye: "But before we begin, lets first talk about our sponsor: Babe-"
Green Goblin: "FINISH IT! FINISH IT!"
A Soulless Self-Centred Being Vs A Cruel Corrupted Being In One Form.
“Oh!” Finally you did a video about Norman Osborne.
A analysis of Francis Underwood, Light Yagami or LittleFinger would be awesome💪
My man,love your work.A analysis on Bane would be awesome
0:13. I thought that was a lil cheeky, sliding in the, "something of a scientist." XD
"Something of a scientist" You felt compelled to say it, didn't you, Vile Eye? 😆
Willem Dafoe was incredible as Osborne and Green Goblin. A truly masterful performance.
Great analysis man! Here’s 3 recommendations for villains you can cover in the future:
Dr Zander Rice from Logan/ X-men universe
Cid/The Rainmaker from Looper
Mother Gothel from Tangled
All the superhero movies they have out now and i still go back to spiderman, x2, blade 2, and batman begins…
Do these:
Conal Cochran - Halloween 3 Season of the Witch
Eli Sunday - There Will Be Blood
Krug Stillo - The Last House on the Left (1972)
Herbert West - Reanimator
Hyman Roth - The Godfather Part II
David Kleinfeld - Carlitos’s Way
Stuart Richards - Cruising
Sheriff Will Teasle - First Blood
John Kreese and Terry Silver- The Karate Kid/Cobra Kai Franchise
Would love an Analyzing Evil : Col Cochrane from Halloween 3 season of the witch ! That guys plan overall was chilling
This'd be a great video. Halloween 3 is one of my favorite films of all time!
Suggestions for analyzing evil:
Horde Prime and Shadow Weaver from She-Ra and The Princesses of Power, Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2, Eren Yeager from Attack on Titan, Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls, and Lots-o-huggin bear from Toy Story 3.
“In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually they will hate you.”
Just to quote Stan Carlisle in Guillermo del Toro's "Nightmare Alley":
- Mister... I was born for it.
This quote perfectly defines Willem Dafoe being such a perfect choice to play the Green Goblin from the get-go.
Yes yes and yes this guy takes me back to my childhood. This video puts the biggest smile on my face.
Just keep doing exactly what you're doing mate. Love it.
The Willem Dafoe's Goblin is such a great villain, he stole the No Way Home movie
I’ve almost seen all your videos just found your channel last month so this shit is a marathon and it’s all worth it
You never disappoint 🙂
so glad you covered Green Goblin hope you'd get to Doc Ock one day
I think you should cover the Double King from Felix Colgrave's short film of the same name.
There's alot of symbolism in his obsession over crowns and what he's willing to do to get them.
Green Goblin belongs in the same rhealm of iconic portrayals as Darth Vader,Darth Sidious,Joker etc. Iconic