[PoE 3.24] Is Creating "The Adorned" Better Than Buying One? | Is it Profitable? | 104x Sets + Data

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  • Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
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  • @nunyabusiness8265
    @nunyabusiness8265 3 месяца назад +4

    yo anyway you could get rid of services fees for mirror crafting to your patreon members?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +59

      Technically yes I could , as not charging a fee is something quite a few streamers are doing now as a means to earn money through subs and ad revenue that accompanies the increased viewership.
      My personal belief is that this tethers a line too close to RMT and crosses an ethical boundary which is incompatible with my stance on the matter that has been well established at this point, albeit outwardly focused.
      If I cannot hold myself at a bare minimum to the same standard that I hold others then I would not only be a hypocrite , but I would be abandoning my values for money which I will not do.
      If you are thinking of being a patron , or if you are currently a patron, based on this contingency… you have my gratitude for your support but with my full understanding and endorsement should you withdraw that desire and/or refund that support if you have been misled into thinking this would be the case.
      I would be happy to help you, however, (patron or not) into learning ways to support that desire through increased proficiency with in-game currency acquisition.
      Cheers boss!

    • @azizpromisiri6914
      @azizpromisiri6914 3 месяца назад +15

      @@BeltonPoEW take as always

    • @nunyabusiness8265
      @nunyabusiness8265 2 месяца назад +3

      @@BeltonPoE i appreciate the response and completely understand your viewpoint ...although i am currently not a patreon this wouldnt sway me not to be but it does in fact make me want to support you. ive learned a few methods of earning currency from your videos already...you're a class act my friend.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  2 месяца назад +2

      @@nunyabusiness8265 god bless brotha 🙏🏻

  • @Jensonator10
    @Jensonator10 3 месяца назад +86

    Homeless man discovers POE 2024 colorized.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +18

      Homeless man in NA****
      …I’m a fucking Duke in Europe tho
      Can’t forget exchange rates when commenting on matters of appearance**

    • @derlou88
      @derlou88 3 месяца назад

      @@BeltonPoE where did this come from?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +3

      @@derlou88 Not Europe!

    • @implosesgm
      @implosesgm 3 месяца назад

      @@BeltonPoE hahah

    • @derlou88
      @derlou88 3 месяца назад

      @@BeltonPoE weird, insecure comment

  • @xenariz
    @xenariz 3 месяца назад +25

    Thank you Belton for helping to flood the market with adorned jewels so i can buy one for cheap.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +10

      Gotchu homes 📈🫡

  • @BeltonPoE
    @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +4

    Will be releasing follow up videos on all stages of the “supply chain” to support or discredit the hypothesis offered at the beginning of the first video in this series, with this being the second. Stay tuned!
    Part 1: ruclips.net/video/UUHH_a_l6PE/видео.html

  • @SenecatheAlchemist
    @SenecatheAlchemist 3 месяца назад +25

    James Belton this is your mother. You need to shave.

  • @MatteBlacke
    @MatteBlacke 3 месяца назад +1

    Amazing rolls. Way to go, buddy.

  • @younggenin2957
    @younggenin2957 3 месяца назад +2

    Gotta appreciate the effort it took to even organize all of these. Great vid

  • @HighHopes210
    @HighHopes210 3 месяца назад +5

    Being a mathematically enclined gambler yourself, you may want to consider hitting a big roll early and quitting doesn't mean more profit unless continuing is -EV (either it was -EV from the start or is becoming -EV because of price drops of the jewel or price increase of the components for example).
    Yes, it means more profit/hr but that'd be a very result oriented approach as you should rather target making +EV decisions (mathematically speaking at te least).
    PoE is such a great game as there is so many arbitrage situations where so many decisions are +EV to the point where it becomes more about choosing the most +EV situation suiting your own risk tolerance and proper bankroll management.
    Would love to hear your thoughts on this in the future. Great job and thank you for the content.

  • @OfficialPepe
    @OfficialPepe 3 месяца назад +4

    I did 10 sets and my best was a 141. Still a big upgrade for my Adorned RF Chief who was running a 117 before that!
    Fun Video to watch Belton, as usual

  • @Adoptulous
    @Adoptulous 3 месяца назад +4

    that 112 roll made me burst out laughing lmao

  • @kylevaughan8587
    @kylevaughan8587 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the information!

  • @TheSacredMaster
    @TheSacredMaster 3 месяца назад +5

    6:49 Belton is God confirmed

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +2

      Goldrim Sachs is now a tax exempt guild! Apply today!!

  • @paphich3007
    @paphich3007 3 месяца назад +2

    that 112% was wild

  • @Jumaz00
    @Jumaz00 3 месяца назад +1

    Great fucking content, the vids are getting better as well, can absolutely tell you putting way more effort into streamlining the whole thing, keep slayin!

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +2

      Thanks homie appreciate you saying that / noticing!

  • @xXDANMUFCXx
    @xXDANMUFCXx 3 месяца назад +1

    Bros made so much money he’s turning green! ☘️

  • @nhanknhankson2194
    @nhanknhankson2194 3 месяца назад +1

    "Im god" had me spitting my coffee out

  • @ggn1
    @ggn1 Месяц назад

    The 112% is your 420 moment LOL

  • @BeltonPoE
    @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +21

    Last name ever, first name greatest

  • @ukdnbmarsh
    @ukdnbmarsh 3 месяца назад +1

    would you have any gigachad gear that will go with a scion armour stacking type build?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +2

      I do actually lol, I have a global defence + fire overcap grasping mail that is clean (not fractured/synthed/influenced/corrupted) that I bought very early on. Nothing else yet but I’ll likely make a couple things as the league progresses - armour stacker gear tends to gain value/demand over the time as the build is quite expensive and can be very very expensive if min maxed.
      With that said, Misha often crafts the mirror items for the build as he plays it every league and him and I are buddies/ chat in game often so I try to not step on his toes since mirror crafts tend to be zero sum ventures and I have other options since it’s not a build I actually play.

    • @OfficialPepe
      @OfficialPepe 3 месяца назад

      @@BeltonPoE actual chad move

  • @shnurr214
    @shnurr214 3 месяца назад +1

    Did Belton deep fry his video capture in this video?

  • @sgtbrett1974
    @sgtbrett1974 3 месяца назад +1

    Praise be to the high lord

  • @Love-kq7iy
    @Love-kq7iy 3 месяца назад +1

    My guy! You look tired and worn. Possibly time to take some time to yourself? Get good sleep, take your mind off things... get a haircut? Worried about you. You're an asset to the whole PoE community, we need you in good shape. Take care of yourself bud.

  • @eshannumin
    @eshannumin Месяц назад

    What are you talking about when you say "The lock on magic item crafts makes implicits free" ?

  • @klbm9999
    @klbm9999 2 месяца назад

    Bro what's that build, every item looks so fly..

  • @TacoDozer
    @TacoDozer 3 месяца назад

    Worth mentioning, the expected return on 100 of these is almost exactly the value of a single 150%. So for consistent profit without taking any appreciation into account, you'd probably want a minimum sample size of 200 if not higher.

  • @rezechs
    @rezechs 3 месяца назад +1

    How does his camera get worse somehow it seem? Is it just a meme at this point?

  • @vAccurate
    @vAccurate 2 месяца назад

    always loved adorned gamba
    dropped my first mirror today in a Citadel T17 & sold and saw this vid, turned my 675d into 1450d off of adorned rolls
    gg

  • @Olvenskol
    @Olvenskol Месяц назад

    Figure your breakpoints, buy an Adorned in that hits them all below 150% and save a vast amount of currency.

  • @finalfragment8432
    @finalfragment8432 3 месяца назад +1

    correction there is no time at which it is mathematically correct to stop wither u hit 150 or not or even if u hit it a 100 times. the statistical probability does not change depending on weather u rolled the best roll early or not each roll is independent of the previous one. if it is on a average profitable to roll the dice at the start it does suddenly change when u get a perfect roll anyone who says otherwise does not know statistics

    • @Smoothcarries
      @Smoothcarries 3 месяца назад

      He said specifically if you’re doing this to profit. Using common sense, if you hit something that is a 1/101 in a lot less tries, it is best to leave while you are up.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад

      It’s also mathematically a better profit rate per hour which is typically how currency acquisition is measured (as a rate), and not in the absolute. Furthermore there’s market saturation and the time value of currency to consider- that is what I meant although I did a poor job articulating that as I did the video live without a script and was also reading the numbers out while trying to express the point

    • @BigFx
      @BigFx 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Smoothcarries Your chance to hit 1/101 at least once in 101 tries is 63.39% . That being said, it makes no sense to stop if you hit in "lot less". As op very correctly stated - you hitting it once, does not change the probability of further hits at all, and if your expected value was positive on 1st try, it will be positive on any subsequent tries provided the price stays the same. Even if your goal is to farm perfect adorned for yourself, at the pricepoints from time of the video your decision to sell the excess stock means you are losing money long term.

    • @Smoothcarries
      @Smoothcarries 3 месяца назад

      @@BigFx Never said it changed your probability, nor did I ever question the statistical probability. Idk why you’re restating any of that to me. All I’m saying is a practical application of the real world: “If you’re going for profit” you should stop if you hit big quicker than expected. All I said.

  • @alohadouken
    @alohadouken 3 месяца назад +1

    hell yeah giga charles

  • @kingpapai8087
    @kingpapai8087 3 месяца назад

    Throughout out league did 11 adorned, first one 150 then consecutive adorned are lower than 100. But got lucky on last 2 got 138 and 130.

  • @ukdnbmarsh
    @ukdnbmarsh 3 месяца назад

    Gday Boss i hope you are well?

  • @danielwhite5997
    @danielwhite5997 3 месяца назад +3

    I feel like an idiot for just grinding out sanctums hoping to get 10d/hour....

    • @Elldar111
      @Elldar111 3 месяца назад +3

      Keep grinding, first You need to get 1600+ divines for 100 sets to make profit without risk of bad rng

    • @gregori8341
      @gregori8341 3 месяца назад

      me too... it's the representation of my life... always doing everything as inefficiently as possible 😂😂

    • @BigFx
      @BigFx 3 месяца назад

      @@Elldar111 mathematically speaking, if you want the risk to be below 2 sigmas (95%) you would need 200 sets. At 100 sets, your probability of turning profit is little below 68% . This happens often in "poe math" (essence spam until you hit some other t1 for example) in general, if an event has a 1/X chance of happening, repeating it X times means that your chance for it to occur at least once is "only" roughly 2/3 , and definitely not 100%.

  • @Ilestun
    @Ilestun Месяц назад

    Numbers are kinda inflated because if insane price of 150% adorned. Remove the 150% one from the data, the EV of adorned goes down hard.

  • @exiledfried7822
    @exiledfried7822 3 месяца назад +1

    Everyone in twitch chat getting thrown haymakers😂😂😂

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +2

      Twitch chat can’t stop talking about being “farmers”…. They are LITERAL hay-makers (they’ll live 😂) 🚜🧑‍🌾

  • @eeegon
    @eeegon 3 месяца назад +2

    Doing Canada proud

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +3

      Have to compensate for Trudeau! 🤪🤣

    • @eeegon
      @eeegon 3 месяца назад +1

      @@BeltonPoE I think if we all will it strongly enough we can finally yeet him into the sun login

    • @EnderElohim
      @EnderElohim 2 месяца назад

      @@BeltonPoE I'm from Turkiye so can we send Trudeau, Erdogan and probably Biden to some good vocation in SUN XD So you should lead Canada instead i mean with that much efficiency you could make Canada move to next tier on tech XD

  • @giceism2832
    @giceism2832 3 месяца назад +1

    g.o.a.t.

  • @johnturtle6649
    @johnturtle6649 3 месяца назад

    For me, better to make one. My third attempt was a 145% adorned. I have no idea what the odds are but it is what it is. Had enough spare pieces to make two for my guild leader as well. First was 79%, second I let him do on his own and haven't heard back yet. Collecting the pieces isn't fun, but I weighed that against endless chance/scours for vaal side areas. Edit: I actually farmed them too, not purchased.

  • @daanstrik4293
    @daanstrik4293 3 месяца назад +2

    I did some quick math last league and found that crafting the adorned in bulk will yield a profit. But roughly 80% of the time you run at a loss.
    So if you’ve got a ton of currency already you can make a ton more. But if you’ve only got enough for 1 or 2 tries you’re better off buying it.

  • @anthonyhall1033
    @anthonyhall1033 3 месяца назад

    first name is beltonpoe

  • @BeltonPoE
    @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +12

    6:39 - 7:33 to witness irrefutable proof that I have neckbearded my way into omnipotence
    My guild, Goldrim Sachs, will be applying for Tax Exempt Status with GGG on the morrow, given recent developments, as we transition into our newfound role as a religious institution.
    🙏🏻

    • @johnturtle6649
      @johnturtle6649 3 месяца назад +1

      Church of Mirrors when?

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +3

      @@johnturtle6649The United Church of Amirrorca
      …coming soon!

    • @johnturtle6649
      @johnturtle6649 3 месяца назад

      @@BeltonPoE I would like to request a membership!

  • @brandonlincoln778
    @brandonlincoln778 3 месяца назад

    Poe and ggg have been 100% sold to sixjoy Hong Kong Limited

    • @AGR_13
      @AGR_13 3 месяца назад +7

      Are you a time traveler from 2018 bringing us news for the distant past

  • @EnderElohim
    @EnderElohim 2 месяца назад

    28:50 To get Rich you need to be rich essentially XD If you win 3/4 of the time and have 1 bullet you have 1/4 chance to lose it but if you have 4 bullet even if two of your bullet miss that 2 or 1 win can make you rich depend on the situation. More money you have make it easy to counter looses XD especially if you lose back to back you need to be able to keep going until odds are in your favour if math on your side

  • @evilpugg6866
    @evilpugg6866 3 месяца назад

    The 112%%😂😂😂😂😂 OMG lol

  • @antonpugin7068
    @antonpugin7068 3 месяца назад +2

    what's the point about 112?

    • @johnshepard8550
      @johnshepard8550 3 месяца назад +2

      He called random number, and rolled it immediately

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +1

      TLDR it was irrefutable proof that I am, in fact, omnipotent.

    • @antonpugin7068
      @antonpugin7068 3 месяца назад +1

      thank you@@BeltonPoE

  • @korianes3590
    @korianes3590 3 месяца назад +1

    112 wtf

  • @yabbadabbadooey
    @yabbadabbadooey 3 месяца назад

    william

  • @amnezija2
    @amnezija2 3 месяца назад +1

    Aaaaand the profit is dead

  • @Tdiehl717
    @Tdiehl717 3 месяца назад

    Jesus bro

  • @icarivgustorvilski7913
    @icarivgustorvilski7913 3 месяца назад

    ahhh sorry dude. I went to leave you a like but it was on 150... so i couldnt do it XD

  • @yuh1247
    @yuh1247 3 месяца назад

    1st

  • @kylecaldwell
    @kylecaldwell 2 месяца назад

    You're not God.

  • @nater8410
    @nater8410 3 месяца назад

    You look like butcher from the boys after playing 1 year of poe.

    • @BeltonPoE
      @BeltonPoE  3 месяца назад +2

      12 hours of twitch chat questions a day will have that “losing my wife and child to a sadistic super hero” effect on even the most resilient of men .

    • @nater8410
      @nater8410 3 месяца назад

      @@BeltonPoE scorched earth

  • @birdog23
    @birdog23 3 месяца назад

    Lost 40div making 5 of them a week ago.