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Modern day gaming sucks. I'm sick of the message. Sick of subscriptions and microtransactions.
Remember you have old games, emulators n indies, ofc you need to choose carefully since the companies still make money from old games n some indies will have the message as well, it's a shame bc we have good games like Time Spinner that are unplayable bc of the message in the story, even when it's an artistic choice to believe we need representation, anyone who uses this word is a red flag to me
Why I walked away at the end of the 7th console generation and started putting together a space to play all of my old games again
I don’t mind them being there as long as it doesn’t feel like a requirement. Like skins emotes whatever cool awesome but just make a good base game dammit
This comment should be pin.
Highly recommend getting a mid tier pc or laptop and go indie it's what I did and I've never had to look back this doesn't fix how horrible games are nowadays but that's not something you can fix thank whales and company's that pray on addiction
Ever since the 9th gen started, I can barely get excited for modern games anymore. Almost everything is either a massive disappointment and letdown or developers find a way of subverting everyone's expectations and the quality is sinking every year.
to be fair, 2023 had some serious bangers that'll go down in gaming history
@@KulveTarothsNightGown like what
Gaming is the worlds biggest entertainment source. The greedy grabblers are grabbling. Players are being exploited for their shekels.
@@TheVincenzoGaming BG3, RE4 remake, alan wake 2, zelda, lies of p, armored core 6, cyberpunk redeeming itself. theres always bad games but we had some incredible titles come out last year. BG3 alone lit a huge fire under the asses of so many devs it caused them to openly admit 'we can't deliver this type of quality so temper your expectations going forward'
@@KulveTarothsNightGownAlan Wake 2 will not be remembered by the Summer.
The "game development is hard" excuse is the worst one.
A paying customer has every right to complain, if you go to a restaurant expecting a five star meal and the cook can only make pre made hamburgers that taste like cardboard while still charging you for that five star price then the customer has all the right to complain about the subpar job.
its its so "hard" why are they still doing it?
That metaphor is too lol😂
@@billy6427 Still true though. It seems only game devolpment gets a free pass from criticism, you don't see bad archictecs getting a free pass when their bad work is the reason a building or bridge collapses or is badly planned and it only creates more problems.
So why should we let a bunch of clowns who can't code and the corporate suits backing them to get away with a bad work? Nah mate. Vote with your wallet and speak loud, let the industry know that their pathetic work won't be rewarded.
@SammEater - Using your logic and reasoning does not quite fit with this example. Nobody is sitting in a restaurant expecting to pay before their meal. Then when they get their steak they are told to pay up front for the chips then again for the salad then again for the sauce etc. etc.
There is also no realistic restaurant that you expect to be in for hours every day just to get the advertised meal.
There is also plenty of alternatives to eating at a restaurant but increasingly little alternative to the corporate cash grabs and deceit of the modern gaming industry. It is much worse than a bad restaurant experience unless you are prepared to do something else with your time.
@@warpeace8891 True.
One important thing that current disappointment in gaming should be showing people is, it was never the company that made the games you love, but the development teams working for them. The dream teams at Blizzard, Bioware, Konami, Capcom, etc. have long since disbanded, few of the members still at those companies. THEY are why the games you love were so good, and upper management has gotten worse and worse to the point that many of those folks jumped ship to start their own companies or work for others. That is why longstanding franchises have gotten worse and loaded with "live service" garbage no one but the higher-ups want because it makes them and their cohort millions to nickel-and-dime us, the players. If you want good games, look at the team making them, not the companies they work for. Upper management has no clue what players want and don't care; they're just looking at the dollars that roll in. Keep feeding them for crap, and crap is what you'll get.
Precisely. 👍
Bottomline: its not the developers who are to blame (mostly) but their publishers. They push those hectic deadlines, they make all the false marketing and they implement those greedy monetization practices.
A good example, once upon a time there was Blizzard and Blizzard North, BlizzNorth dont exist anymore and the team is scattered to the four winds with only one or two sticking around at Actiblizz.
Administration and management ruin every business. Getting paid a bunch of money for just being social butterflies and knowing a little bit of math. Alot of us "laborers" can do administrative jobs but they can't do ours. Im sure you see the Paradox we are living in. I'm truly convinced that's how HR became a thing. Yes there were some horror storys but they found a way to create an new position that could exert authority and control over others. It really sucks.
Kinda. More to do with the lucrative nature of the massive gaming industry. Just like with youtube and Twitch, the big money is attracting big fish that really just wants to push leashes on IPs and then milk them, and these people care about money and good business, not the thing making it for them. If I went to blizzard's top execs and investors, I'd be shocked if even 1% played video games.
Ok so let me see if I understand this correctly, If a game is bad it's the audience fault. If something gets leaked it is the audiences fault. If the company lays off people its the audiences fault. I am beginning to wonder if games remain shit because the creators never take responsibility?
Higher ups and some devs are just way too out of touch to realize that they themselves are the problem.
Some of these devs were raised sheltered
I mean technically, Leaks ARE usually the audiences fault what with hacking and all. Unless you have a disgruntled employee that does the leaking
@@cmoney163now like most of em
If gamers complaining the company make money and rely on modelers to fix their games it’s bad
If Bethesda doesnt want negative attention when New Vegas is brought up, maybe... I dont know... do a better job with making games?
Not until Todd and Emil are both gone will that ever have a chance of happening. Especially Emil with his keep it stupid simple writing.
That would require care and effort. Bethesda ain’t about all that
@@DarkeningDemiseYeah i know... :(
Maybe at some point in the future.
FO3 outsold NV, FO4 outsold FO3.
That's the trajectory folks; if dumb sells better, you'll get more shoddy writing, padded out with distracting bolt ons and radiant quests.
Trying to disassociate your live service game away from the term 'live service games' is like trying to disassociate your loot boxes away from the term 'loot boxes'.
uh hum...surprise mechanics.
Haha you guys beat me to it
we all had the exact same thought
Hilarious when game dev companies try to say “where are your morals” in 2024
When they themselves have no morals…
Bethesda doesn’t want to be upstaged by other studios, however they are now being upstaged by modders.
True, but seeing as the modding scene increases their sales, doesn't profit and doesn't cost them any money, they probably don't care that much. They will keep trying to steal the modders' work and profit from it, though
Modders gave up Starfield. So not anymore
you know you effed up when the simp modders say "I can't do anything with this". @@BGIANAKy
Good on CD Projekt Red for rejecting offers. There used to be laws for these corporate giants like Microsoft and Disney that they couldnt create monopolies and own everything. Somewhere along the way this last decade they just stopped following the rules and no one has intervened.
The system was corrupted for a long time, but it was around 2010 that they stop pretending that the system work fairly, it was also around that time that folks start to wake up for reality, now is open to everyone see that the system doesn't give a DAMN about people, the Big techs weren't the first companies that become monopolies but they are the first ones that people would directly interact with them on a daily basis, this whole mess we are now, has a LOT to do with Big Techs and the manipulation of the public opinion. Another point why do you think this companies adopt eagerly the ESG agenda? Because they want population control, and right now they think theres too much people ON this world, that's why they are pushing this trash.
CFPR signed up for ESG to curry favor with Blackrock or Vanguard. ESG is poison that’s tanked every Marvel Cinematic Universe movie after endgame. It’s also killed Star Wars and Star Trek. So I’ll curb my enthusiasm with CDPR.
Microsoft has been left behind. About time they acquired more companies to square up to Sony.
@@NorseGraphic Thanks for this info, I had no idea these things were happening behind the scenes. Props rescinded lol 😂
To this other guy that commented who's probably a bot, no. Just no. A multi billion dollar company should not be allowed to buy out every single competitor that gains a following. What kind of dystopian world do you want to live in dude?
@@NorseGraphicpoison? I don’t think so. Also shit, you wouldn’t curry favor with the largest financial institutions on earth? Find that hard to believe; cash is king in this world and everyone wants some of it
Bethesda declined obsidians offer because they know they'll do a better job lmao
If this was 10 years ago I'd agree with you but the talented people doesn't seem to be working at Obsidian anymore. This as their latest releases Grounded and Outer Worlds were like 5/10 games at best.
Yeah obsidian is so bad nowadays, outer worlds had neither good rpg mechanics or storytelling. I would actually argue their RPG mechanics and storytelling were absolutely awful in that game.
@@AstrusEminusOuter world sucked. Really bad. I enjoyed all the possibilities...but the cartoon stlye ALWAYS fall flat for me. The gameplay execution was bad. The control, the fights, everything didnt felt right. I did the first cpuple quest. Went to the city, realised everything was so small and instanced. I hated it. Put it down never looked back.
Maybe the story telling and the quests were good, since its obsidian, but i will never know.
@@hoopoop239oh yes starfield was so much better -sarcasim-
Did you play outer world? That shit was terrible.
Different game companies will start to pop up eventually and give us games that we want to spend money on. I think a big shift is coming/happening when it comes to these long lasting triple A companies loosing ground with gamers. Idk maybe I’m wrong but it sure does feel like it.
Especially as game development tools and AI using no-code development assets making game development easier, incredible games are going to be easier to make
I hope you're right! Because we need anti woke, anti political studios and devs to make great games again! And either get rid of the transactions or make them so nothing can cost more then $10 because there is nothing micro about any of these absurd prices!
I think we will see the death of the AAA game. When AAA game productions cost hundreds of millions of dollars to produce they become too big fail which means the brain-dead executives controlling the purse string are the ones making the big design decisions which rarely end well. If you look at all the big successes in recent years most are not AAA games. They are polished A or AA games made by mid-sized more independent studios like Fromsoft and Larian or even outright indie titles made by very small developers. The biggest earners have actually been predatory mobile games like Candy Crush.
I think we will end up seeing the big-name developers transitioning toward smaller more lucrative projects with less risk such as gotcha and mobile games along with smaller-scale more traditional online games loaded with microtransactions.
far rights no better all of you need to get out of my hobbies nobody invited you nobody asked you to speak for other gamers. You inserted yourself into my hobbies to spread YOUR propaganda same as the left. @@rzrrox4202
Down with microsoft/blizzard!!!
And whoever does COD.
The fact that multiple devs demand us the playerbase to boycott the games they are making (because of how trash the company is treating them and how low quality the games are) you just know the problems are blatant.
Given how Bethesda reacts to Starfield criticism, it is obvious Todd Howard never got over the fact and takes it personally that out of all 3D Fallout games the most popular is the one that was not developed under his direction. But when you think about it, Fallout has always been Obsidian’s franchise in the first place, since Obsidian was founded by the core of the former Black Isle Studios staff that developed the original Fallout games. It was never truly Bethesda’s franchise to begin with, and he knows that; that’s why he’s so sensitive about it.
it’s also why they love to use Fallout as it’s testing grounds for mechanics they don’t want to tarnish their precious Elder Scrolls with.
could you imagine ES with “yes, sarcastic yes, why (which leads to yes), and no (which, if you want to progress, will become a yes) voice options?
He needs to be fired
And old writers rehired with more development staff.
I'd love to see an obsidian elder scrolls, Id bet money it would be better than Bethesda's version
ESO is dying, they completely ignored their pvp community and just keep pushing out the same kind of crap, with a lead who is as bad or worse than Todd Howard.
I hope Obsidian does their own medieval fantasy and it blows Bethesda out of the water. Todd wouldn't let Obsidian finish the game there was whole segments cut as he was rushing them. He is such an @ss
Considering how bland and shallow The Outer Worlds was? Un-fucking-likely. The Obsidian that was involved with Fallout is long gone. And you got to inform yourself better. 'Todd' wasn't rushing Obsidian, the studio was messing around for a good chunk of FNV's development cycle, something that wasn't new for them up to that point, and some of the big wigs at Obsidian admitted to it.@@doggolovescheese1310
@@doggolovescheese1310 I loathe imagining how good obsidians version of an elderscrolls spinoff would be.
Player: wears imperial armor
Opposite faction: DIIIE!!!
Player: wears iron armor
Opposite faction: oh... Hello. Would you like to join us?
Todd: No! No! God no! Nooooooooo!!!
What makes me sad is that people may watch the new Fallout TV show, go to check out the latest video game, and end up playing Fallout 76.
That will just be sad.
Isn't that exactly what they are going for?
@@pauperslament3467 Possibly. But the point will be that it will be sad if their Fallout gaming experience is Fallout 76, which is not a good representation of the series.
I wouldn't want anyone to judge the Fallout series based on that game.
That’ll be sad indeed. Baiting normies to play an MMO with micro transactions…. 🤦
Or just maybe fallout London will deliver 🤞
76 isn't the dumpster fire it launched as, it's actually fun now but yeah that would be disappointing, but 4 isn't exactly a gem of a game either though, the new Fallout players have sadly missed the best games by years, poor folks.
"We do not want it to be associated with the FACT it is a Live Services game. We would prefer you just sign over all your money to us without complaint. Thank you, come again!"
I, for one, would like to congratulate the Florida Joker on coming out as mentally disturbed and seeking the help IT needs.
Bethesda forced FNV to be released after only 18 months so screw Oblivion over and they are still butthurt that it is FAR better than anything Bugthesda has even made.
😂😂 that's a fact they are butthurt bad and they think they can do it better than before but they are just trolls trying to be devs and making the worst games possible.
I love how he tries to sue them for using his likeness, when his “likeness”is a reference to an already existing licensed character 😭
Obsidian managed to out do Bethesda with 18 months on an engine they'd never used before. Starfield is a hot mess and Bethesda had 8 years to do it with an engine they've been using since roughly 2002*. With those kind of differences, I can't say I'm surprised that Bethesda didn't want to be one-upped again.
*Morrowind was released in 2002, but Bethesda obviously started development at least a few years before that. I just don't know all the details of how long it took to develop TES 3.
This isn't a leak, they call it that to avoid the glaring security questions that allowed them to get to this point. Ransomware has been a thing for companies for decades now, that the gaming industry thinks they're special is just par for the course really. They need to get their shit together and do real security to protect their IP and employees. Sure this is a malicious hack, but laxness is what lead to it. (Insomniac Games hack)
EXACTLY! People do need their feelings hurt over this, someone will for sure need to be fired, maybe a few someone's. This was a breach, not a "leak"
Fucking really! Also like, look at how GCS Gameworld reacted to getting ransomeware'd-- they just didn't care (about the game information) that was released, they cared about their staff. Companies can choose just not to care about what game infprmation is out there and just focus on protecting their employees.
Also how exactly are they not promoting the hackers work by fighting amongst them self's? the hacker are getting exactly what they want smh its all immature by these devs. You enter the damn internet its the law of the land a policy we all agree to subcontinental. hell my ssi was leaked on the dark web before but you dont see me btching at everyone and than they want to stop connections that can help there Brand? and make empty threats like are they stupid? If being hacked is so bad Stay your behind offline and work offline keep your DATA off the internet shiz maybe that could help them all make games better and the lazy ones from working at home. If I hear another dev BTCH and moan and there setup is not offline based I will not feel bad for them imho those devs need to be blacklisted as hostile for inciting a digital riot
The developers getting on X and crying about people sharing the leaked info should be channeling that anger inwards towards their internet/software security department. To be able to get both employee data and game details demonstrates clearly that Insomniac Games' software security is a joke. If it were me, I would be just as mad at my bosses as I would be at the hacker. Forget the media and content creators. It would be like a bank robber going into a bank to steal cash and coming out with both the cash and all the bank account numbers to rob later.
@@johnq.public3815 Oh absolutely. I still think holding the "journalists" to task matters but the way these companies have *zero* fucking data security is maddening. Employers have an obligation to protect the personal information of their employees, for all the stated reasons why it's fucked up that journalists are sharing the conrents of the ransomeware attack. You *never* know someone's personal situation, so protecting their personal information is direly important. Like, should the game industry continue to unionize, it should be *written into contracts* that employers have to provide a certain degree of digital security.
remember when games used to actually be emotionally, where you used to able to have a power trip without worrying about someone's bs inserted into the game
Welcome to current day where everyone is such a delicate snowflake they need CONSTANT validation
I look at a game like final fantasy 7 remake and think, why the fuck can’t western developers make beautiful looking and memorable characters like that? Why is that so bad. No, Instead we got a flat ass, flat chested Sylvester Stalloned chin MJ in Spider-Man 2.
All the people who made those games are gone. It’s not the same people today that are making video games unfortunately. Western gaming has been taken over by corporate greed, you gotta look for the developers that still have the heart and passion to make a good game.
have a power trip?! that's so toxically masculine... /s
@@The_Primary_Axiom don't know how to tell you this, but regular women do be looking kinda ugly...
Bethesda being mad at anyone releasing a buggy product is hilarious.
I love the fact that all those leaks prove the devs are lying. This proved they don't care what we want, what we say, or how we feel about thier products. That they are LITERALLY saying one thing and doing the opposite. We are a piece of meat to be dropped to the side a better cut shows up
Then they say, "How dare you call us out for being liars, you should be ashamed."
The emotional blackmail is unreal...
I mean seriously, why would care about a leak if you we're transparent. Let alone trustworthy. Then what would they be able to leak
Devs getting angry about reporters reporting is just the sort of Twitter grandstanding I expect nowadays. Some outlets trying to signal good intentions by saying they won't do their job is a wonderful way to create division for the dumpster fire. They're just gifting themselves the title of good guy. It's great marketing and completely disingenuous and sets up a toxic narrative that people get to participate in to justify staying on that awful platform.
The lack of self-awareness or comprehension of why journalism matters is perhaps even more sad than the games "journalists" bending the knee to the games industry's whims.
@@Deyzspyinonuwell current actual journalism is pretty hard to come by with most being in someone's pocket.
Tbf its hard to make ends meet with ads, and then adblockers. We would need to go back to the day of subscriptions like with newspapers to get good news. @@aaronbadger6659
It's a dog eat dog world out there.
I disagree entirely-- ethics in journalism *matter* -- what if someone who worked at Insomniac was fleeing an abusive situation-- what if they were being stalked or harassed? People have died from being doxxed, and spreading the entire fucking content of the attack is doxxing. It's unethical as fuck. Mainstream journalism does the same thing, so media journalism just follows
suit. It's disgusting.
This is why I mostly play older, established games. Either the devs had time to fix/finish the experience, or enough time has passed that I know what Im getting myself into.
I still play my PS2, GameCube, Dreamcast, Xbox, Xbox 360, Nintendo DS and PSP
Bethesda unironically being mad about a game being released buggy when its not them that released it.
if bethesda keeps using that old game engine there just going to keep burying themselves
Because the other engines either can't do modding, or doesn't have a modding tool established. Could do what banner lord did and just never a release a game for the next ten yrs, or simply don't fix what actually isn't broken. The engine is fine, the issue are more about the limitations of some genres, game system choices, and internal factors.
@@Theanimeisforme Ancient engine is fine huh?
My god talk about being a Bethesda fanboy.
Also other engines cant do modding my ass. Countless games have great modding, just because with some you might have to put in effort and LEARN how to do it does not make it that they DONT have tools for it, many modders will MAKE tools that others can use for modding.
@ name them then. Name the engines that maintain the same lvl modding of Bethesda games, offers and integrated editing tool for 3d environments, and while supporting 1st person and 3rd person gameplay.
@@Theanimeisforme Unity, Unreal, CryEngine, Divinity and REDengine are some of the most well known game engines that support modding just as much if not better than the Gamebyro engine. I mean I could go on for days here since all the indie studios and such that use their own game engines like Bethesda does. Also, every single game engine can be coded for extra modding support if you're compiling the engine from source which most developers do every time they work on a new game. Learn about actual game and software development before you run your mouth off like that and make yourself look like an ignorant fool talking out of their ass.
Source: 6 years of game development and 1 year as a guest instructor for a school specializing in VFX and game development.
@@JohnHPixelMD You named several engines, Divinity i believe a crpg engine, that have no existing modding tools that match creation kit. Anyone can google engines, don't need 6 yrs of programing to achieve that. "offers and integrated editing tool for 3d environments, and while supporting 1st person and 3rd person gameplay" maybe read more carefully, probably would have let you pass had you been ballsy and said the SC2 editor.
Cyberpunk: imo not giving 3rd person view turned off all my friends from playing it. Best thing for them to do is to give players the choice between 1st person and 3rd person. Another reason for not buying cyberpunk was due to how they conducted themselves internally and abused their employees.
Yeah more like Fallout or Starfield
Only problem with Hogwarts legacy was the attacks against those who played the game. The game itself is great and should be continued and if you don't like it don't play it all while getting over yourself and letting others enjoy the game
My problem isn't with JK Rowling but with WB. The whole stupid marxist identity politics drama was a really annoying distraction from how bad WB's business practices have historically been. Suicide squad live services discussed in this video is them too. I don't expect others to join in my boycotts or try to shame them etc. I simply make my case and hope people understand I have the health of the industry in mind when they mindlessly accuse me of wanting to end the industry.
@@h1r086 so you are saying nothing about the game other than something about jk rowling and then a wild tengent that's about stuff not in the game. So did you like the game or not?
Problem about WB saying more Hogwarts games are coming, is that they apparently want live service games, not these nice singleplayer rpgs as HL
@@dragonryderzx14r A boycott means you don't buy the product. The quality of the game does not matter to me if the business practices don't change. It can't matter if I'm to have any sort of leg to stand on making my case as to why WB should be avoided as a company. They could make the best game ever made (not likely) and I would still have to show the discipline to not engage with it and trust me when I say there's dozens of games I could be playing right now from large triple A publishers if my principles didn't get in the way. I'm here reviewing WB themselves, not their dev teams and not their games. I don't have strange expectations of people to share my exact same principles to follow me in my boycotts, but I will continue to make my case. I expect people to continue to buy from terrible companies.. all I can do is lead by example, by not accusing / shaming them and by staying consistent.
Don't worry, all those wokes played it anyway. They just have big mouth but nothing behind.
CDPR doesnt need to be aquired officially when they already outed themselves to follow dei and esg
I saw a LOT of folks saying this, but wheres the evidence that CDPR cave in for ESG rules? I not even doubting that CDPR did, i just want to know the evidence.
Instead of hitting diversity quotas merely for the sake of hitting diversity quotas, I wish companies making games explored genuinely interesting and diverse ideas through their quests, storylines, and characters.
@@epicfiend1999Same, bro! If only there was a way to help sure the staff had diverse backgrounds. You know, diverse educations, writing/art styles, lived experiences, shared experiences, and personal connections to real life stories and themes they want to convey in the game. If only we had a policy in place to help ensure a creative based company hires said diverse group of artists and developers… if only there was a way to naturally incorporate those kinds of people on the creative level… anyway, what were you saying about diversity quota?
they dont want cdproject red they want the gog store
@@Werticus98 CDPR does that already, and they are quite aware of woke culture, they even did some jabs on it in Cyberpunk... so is not like CDPR is simply going ESG unaware of this.
Maybe it has to do with the opening of the USA branch because the Poland Matrix isn't woke at all (and i also suspect that Polish govt is involved with CDPR on a backstage deal or ssomething, and yes, they are conservative as you can get).
Bethesda desperately took that lowercase w from Steam awards after Todd almost had a nervous breakdown during the VGA event. Him laughing himself silly in the audience in the VGA was kind of funny.
As devs have screwed us over dozens if not hundreds of times by now (best example Cyberpunk 2077 were the devs were still claiming it to be a deep RPG, with meaningful choices, a branching story, a city that changes and reacts to the player and their deeds - when in fact nothing like that was in the game at all, hell, the police was simply spawned in, they didn't follow you in vehicles etc. - something GTA 1 could already do in the 90s!), my pity is reserved for people who DESERVE it!
ps: Yes, the devs! Not marketing, not the suits from corporate, but the devs themselves in interviews said that!
In regard to the leaks. I think one problem here is that in recent years for many gamers, both publishers and media outlets have become the enemy.
And yes, I include myself in that. The gaming media constantly preaches at us, telling us what to do, what to say and which games we should want to play, while at the same time most of the time being in the pockets of the big publishers.
While, let's face it, except for some middle-sized companies and the indie scene, it is very clear that for publishers we are nothing but a resource to be exploited with live-service and insane microtransaction costs. They have no respect for us. They treat us like we are nothing but idiots with wallets.
Obsidian is so much better at worldbuilding than post-Morrowind Bethesda. That's why New Vegas is the most loved. I feel like Bethesda thought it would be a quick buck to pay someone to do an asset flip of Fallout 3, but they hired the creators of the franchise and they made a damn masterpiece in 18 months instead. Bethesda couldn't stand the idea of being viewed as the lesser Fallout dev so they threw it all away and didn't even consider risking being viewed the same way in the Elder Scrolls. Bethesda screwed up when they came to the conclusion that the sandbox aspect of Morrowind was why it succeeded and not the rich worldbuilding, which is why all their games since have suffered in good writing and simplified features in the name of accessibility. The thing is, the games sold well so they thought that was a sign they were right. But really, the fact that people could access these products globally on a larger and larger scale had a lot to do with that. And this created a market starved for well written RPGs. And now, we have Zoomers playing BG3. A CRPG. ZOOMERS. PLAYING. A CRPG. It looks like good writing and worldbuilding matter after all!
No, what carried NV was simply being a game system upgrade to fo3 due to lessons learned from that and the small mod scene. This even includes the fact that NV came out with the more fleshed creation kit.
@@Theanimeisforme No. What carried NV was giving the player far more choice, and a fleshed out world that felt far more connected to the original games. F3 has a linear storyline with a bunch of random sidequests. You side with the Brotherhood, period. New Vegas lets you choose multiple endings as well as variations of them. The sidequests feed directly into those options too, they don't just affect ending screens. It is simply a far better RPG.
@@eclipsegst9419 so you never played fallout 3 then, the game where you go several directions on the map experiencing different stories lines and playing how you like. And you clearly never play NV, a linear game disguised as an open world game, were the game does everything in its power to have go from A to point B to delay you're arrive to a new Vegas so you don't get disappointed how bland it actually is. But these are weaknesses of the setting selected for NV, if you actually played it.
@@Theanimeisforme I have played F3 thru 3 times and NV about 10. F3 the first play was impressive with all its hidden side quests. But compared to the ones in NV they feel like filler. They only affect the screens at the end of the game. In NV this is not the case. If you do, for example, Remnants side quests, they will side with you and your chosen faction at the Dam. There is far more reactivity in NV its not even close. F3, first playthru, i wanted to join the Enclave, because they had all these patriotic robots right? Saying they will rebuild America? Yea sounds pretty based. Oh sorry. Your dad is a bleeding heart and you can't, no real evil playthrough allowed, just nuking megaton. NV might have dead space on the map, sure, its a wasteland, so did F1 and F2. Better that than F3's mountains of cement scrap that your character can't climb to force you to go everywhere the long way.
@@eclipsegst9419 cant climb the cement walls but it NV who was well know for its intense use of invisible walls. Also how is completeing quest to reach a different fork in a road reactive? The game is barely reactive and where it is simply mimic or inherits those portions from fo3. If the ending choices is NV is reactive, then very kind of you to gloss over the fact that you can remove Megaton from the map. But atlast your complaint is ultimately just the approach of story choice. Understandable since fo1&2 offered choice, but fo3 made the right choice to restart the franchise in the way that it did. I will concede as well that joining the enclaves or perhaps one for the brotherhood outcasts could have been interesting but the same time, I can see why they didn't due to the nature of the release.
Giving every character in Overwatch the ability to self heal seems like it would negate the role of a Healer(or is it Support?)
Blizzard: "The barrier to entry is too high, let's simplify so more players can join in!"
Oh no, it hurt itself in its confusion! :D
nobody wants to be a healer anyway because other classes outmatch teamwork. it's a thankless role in Overwatch, at least TF2 makes the medic a powerful ally for pushing or breaking chokepoints.
I think they stole the idea from Paladins.
Oh and do you wanna know why I quit the game? Because of that BON-NINARY character that they mentioned months ago.
Seems some devs on twitter are better at spewing moralist buzzwords than making games.
Not defending the hacks... But if these companies would stop pushing the message and then attacking/insulting their fans when they don't like it, maybe people wouldn't feel the need to do something so extreme. Of course it could just be some asshats trying get paid, but it makes it hard to feel bad about it imo.
They failed in their security duty, they managed to lose corporate and personal data together which points to a completely bullshit security attitude. As someone who has worked in corporate computer infrastructure for decades they are failing to take responsibility and blaming the people talking about how they fucked up.
"The message" had nothing to do with this, they were hit by a ransomware attack and the motivation is just monetary, Capcom and CD Projekt Red were also hit by one and they aren't onboard with the "the message"
Furthermore if you don't support "the message" you simply don't buy their products that's how you _boycott_ them, doxxing them for that is just being an asshole.
So you defend exstremists becouse they attack people you dont like. it works both ways both of you need to get out of my hobbies. You are ruining things for everyone.
so you agree when your own side uses exstremisim to censor but go after the otherside when they do it. You have no morals. No side is worth a damn. get out of my hobbies extremist @TheJeffI
Get out of my hobbies extremist you are just as bad as the left. @@frank2937
After starfield, I have no hope for Indy
@jacobfullton5582 yea people often confuse bethesda developer with bethesda publisher, 2 different entities owned by same people...
Both are owned by Microsoft now. No difference.
@@jean-michelgilbert8136 what a dumb thing to say...
Harry Potter being all but forgotten about this year is an incredible disservice to the industry. They came out like a juggernaut and was immediately forgotten about and not even mentioned at the awards.
To be honest they probably didn't want to deal with the drama all over again. People tried to turn it into an anti-transgender stance simply for playing a video game and if Hogwarts had been put up as a potential nominee for a reward it probably would have brought the whole controversy back up again. I just don't think they wanted to deal with the developers and players getting death threats again. Hell it's possible the devs themselves asked not to be involved simply because they didn't want the stress of it all. Even if they did accept the reward, they're just gonna get shit and harassed for it so it wont even feel like a reward but just a second round of punishement. So unfortunately the game is essentially "blacklisted" from succeeding even though it was a popular release.
I don't trust any of the reward shows anymore. It all seems extremely fake and there are plenty of times where i see a game win over a more deserving game and I feel like these shows and "rewards" are really only meant prop up the failing companies and their egos.
Also the plot of Hogwarts Legacy is also controversial since its based around the Goblin War where Goblins are trying to free themselves from slavery and your character is trying to stop that. :/
I've never actually finished the game (actually only just started a campaign) so maybe the story goes a different way than that(?) But that was also one of the major issues people have with the story because your essentially fighting in favor of enslaving an entire race. An understandable concern but then the people who were critical of the game started to literaly threaten anybody who played it and so the whole controversy turned into a mess of threats and moral superiority over actual engaging dialogue and critique.
@@nanaorihara9801You say that, but all the people who hate anybody who played the game only talk about how anyone who played it wants trans people dead or supports trans genocide. None of them mention this Goblin angle.
I bet the Goblin slavery angle is some misunderstanding; I bet the makers of the game would disagree with your summary.
@@nanaorihara9801 That because the Goblin thing actually crossed another accusation leveled against the Harry Potter writer - that Goblins were actually an allegory for a certain group that were accused of running the world by certain other groups, and of whom attempts were made to exterminate them in the middle of the last century. (I'm being vauge as I am fairly certain that these groups do word searches to look for posts to attack)
If the Goblins were now portrayed as slaves that cant be right, so the Goblins are artfully not mentioned in the manufactured hysteria as that might confuse the Social Media Brainwashed. And of course it never works as the latest Dr Who special was accused of being *-phobic even though it was filled with their kind of "positive" messages. So you can never satisfy the brainwashed mob. They are too addicted tot he high you get from rage
The game is boring.
Wow, these past few years have done a lot to change my perspective on developers. They are almost as bad as the rest at this point.
Beginning of the year developers were whining about being "unfairly" compared to BG3. Now developers are whining about journalists doing their jobs.
Gaming industry as a whole is turning to shit
Developers like to act like victims when their games fail and speak out after the fact but do they ever talk about them bringing up these concerns with the executives they love to talk about?
Honestly, the developers didn't actually say anything wrong when they were tweeting about BG3, because if you ignore all the bandwagon outrage and actually read what they said, their message basically boils down to this:
_AAA developers can't make games at the same level as Larian because AAA publishers don't have the balls to take the risk and would rather give up on an entire genre than accept they have to invest the same amount of time and money to meet BG3's standards._
I think we can all agree that the publishers are the problem here, AAA devs can't start a game unless they get the green light (and money) from the publishers that own them, and it's the publishers that force the "games as a service" and "recurring monetization" cancer that's ruining gaming.
You're mad that most developers would find inhuman to do the horrible and terrible cruch BG3 had with little to no pay?
You care just about yourself, uhu?
AAA gaming is definitely suffering, very few devs still get to be staffed with passionate talented people who want to give fun experiences and tell actually great stories, obsidian is one of the only triple A game devs that does try to make good games. Alot of indie games and lower tear A games are still making bangers.
Well at least when the whole rotten tower of greedy corporations comes tumbling down I'll still have all my retro games to play...
Not for too long tho, I can't say it fully but expect great damages to our lives in every level in a near future
Imagine putting forth basically zero effort towards basic system and network security for your company that not only do you get breached (which can happen to just about anyone), you also allow the actors to be in your system for what is probably quite some time, gather literally ALL your data and exfiltrate it, and THEN have all the data in your system encrypted. All with zero alerts/warnings etc that anything is happening. Insomniac's security budget and effort must be at or near zero per year. How about we talk more about that and the company's responsibility to secure its data and less about the media outlets that talk about their failure to do so.
"First expansion is around the corner" is a long way of saying "We are cutting parts of our game out and you have to pay for it again"
The dev reactions around the extortion leak proves what so many people have been saying for so long: access journalism absolutely is affecting the industry.
If people think Activision Blizzard or Bugthesda will "get better" under Microsoft, get real. The only way MS will improve things is if those companies' business models prove disastrous enough to warrant the costs of restructuring them. _Starfield_ as a whole and the CCP severely limiting how much its citizens can pay into video games each month do have potential.
Bethesda continues to piss me off, let’s not forget how they did Obsidian dirty with sabotaging their fallout new vegas meta critic review back in the day.
Microsoft becoming skynet was the biggest downfall in gaming
I would like to know how they define a life service game then? In general a life service game is designed to be an ongoing, continually evolving experience for players by means of all or some of these: Regular Updates, Monetization/Battlepasses, Events and/or Seasons, Multiplayer and/or encouraging players to form communities within the game and long term player retention.
Even a game without any monetization, battlepass, etc.. that has seasons, events and regular updates in an online game is still a life service game.
So, not sure what they really think their game is if not a life service game.
After the in-development Insomniac Wolverine game leaked, I took one look at it and bought...
...a PC copy of the old "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" game, because the graphics and gameplay from that 15+ year-old movie tie-in game still looked better than what Insomniac has been working on...
Bethesda being unhappy about a game releasing buggy would be like Ted Bundy being angry about a man abusing his wife
@TheJeffI uhh you might wanna look up what his crimes were lol
@TheJeffIThat was Jeffery Dahmer. And John Wayne Gacy
I do respect rocksteady as a studio or developer group based off the priorities with the Arkham series, and their approach to authenticity there.
But from the very start with suicide squad, it was clear to me that this game had the wrong priorities, and because of that lacked authenticity.
It felt like the decision making of suits and not the rock steady developers. And maybe it’s just some of the rocksteady higher-ups veered too far away from their developer attire to instead wear suit attire . Either way, It immediately came across as disingenuous and trend chasing. And then, even with the games reveal … The approach again looked disingenuous and safe.
The project feels forced by or on rocksteady and what typically results from that is a lot of wasted potential because priorities are put on the wrong shit.
And even if you can’t see the obvious disingenuous, manipulative, tactics that are at work here… You can still feel it.
That’s not to say you won’t excuse it because you’re bored and want something new to play even if you’re not really that interested plus instant gratification blah blah blah ….. all of those reasons are good as they are just excuses that incentivize and reward decision making from suits and not developers. Decision making with the wrong priorities. By excusing it, or making whatever compromises you do… You incentivize more of it, and for it to get worse. But I digress.
Suicide squad was a suits idea, because the current hype with the movies at their time, which is no longer the case but that’s where the whole idea stemmed from. Trend chasing.
And then you play it safe in other areas and blend appropriately . 👎 it’s all pathetic bullshit of out of touch individuals getting to make decisions for games they should have no authority to have any decision making power over whatsoever because their priority is not the game… It’s money and narratives.
But we unfortunately end up, rewarding the wrong, kind of decision, making because we reward with our money and eyeballs the products from those decision makers🤦♂️
If you want the game creators/developers to have decision-making control and power again… You must reward the decisions for games/products that result from their decision making . The moment you pick up on disingenuous decision-making, suits decision making, wrong priority decision making… You do not reward that with your eyeballs or wallets. You don’t incentivize more of that because then you only perpetuate further control to those entities with the wrong priorities that should be nowhere near that game/product. And according to what you give access to your wallets and eyeballs for… That perpetuates where the decision-making control comes from, and what results from that.
Suits will always wrestle for control of the decision making because they want to prioritize better profit. And they will gladly exploit a product and consumer for better profit. A suit will not invest in a product the way that a product developer will. They don’t care in the same capacity. They don’t have the same priorities. So make sure you reward the right kind of results . Because depending on which one you reward… You will get more of.
You get the beast that you feed
And with that said… I personally will be giving suicide squad here, NONE of my wallet or eyeball access.
Outlet should report whatever they want. The fact that they're talking about blacklisting companies so that they can't report is a red flag. The information is out there it should be covered as long as nothing that they're saying is false or misleading then the post should exist.
I mean, they're free to report whatever they want, where did you see that? No one is being fined or penalized. Just as the freedom exists of the developers and customer base to black list them for reporting that material because they find it disgusting. If you had a friend or family member close to you just leak your credit card info, home, social security number, cellphone, and/or records (medical, criminal, etc) for anyone to straight up steal your identity you still going to invite them to dinner you made from scratch? Freedom does not exempt you from a response of equal freedom. Actions can have repercussions.
@@EtherD86 Clearly personal info should be personal but the actual information about the game should be reported on they a game news outlets not personal information outlets. My statement still stands.
@@randomethics7528 You're right, your statement does still stand and no where does anyone say otherwise. There is no red flag as you put it.
You and others seem to have a misconception of what blacklist means. And it doesn't mean "can't report" because that isn't even possible. When they say boycott or blacklist it means no longer providing them (those specific outlets) interviews, studio walkthroughs, early access/copies, etc - it is not within their (developers) power nor should it be to stop an outlet from reporting - which again, that's impossible. My statement still stands as well because it IS in their power and their right to no longer offer additional access to their property to whoever they choose. Whether this harms their sales or not, it is their choice.
@@EtherD86 Yeah is in a attempt to hurt there ability to report it in a timely fashion harming the business.
@@randomethics7528 Except it is not "a attempt to hurt there ability to report". They can still report on whatever they want and they will. What you are describing is entitlement. Entitlement to exclusive interviews, First Looks, etc. Developers are stating they will be offering these benefits to who they wish as has always been their right.
It has nothing to do with "reporting in a timely fashion" as their (developers) decision does not hinder an outlets ability to report something like an unauthorized leak. They will still be able to do that in the future regardless and that is not going to change.
"You could buy a game and play it without the internet? The game was finished when it released? There was no way to pay to dress up your character or cheat yourself to better gear in-game? Oh grandpa, you and your made up stories from the past!" - kids in the near future, probably
Doom 2016 was awesome! Wait, that's 8 years ago already? Good lord...
Hogwarts, Legacy, best selling game of the year, not even mentioned as far as game of the year awards. Now tell me about the game of the year awards aren’t political…..
It’s a mediocre game that was bought almost purely because it was a Harry Potter title and nothing else.
@@talynhastime9343 oh, don’t be so modest, I’m sure some of those sales were due to the completely epic liberal snowflake meltdown around the game. Something that had everyone from the MightyKeef to ActMan talking about it… sure, I’m sure THAT had nothing to do with it:
The “game development is hard” excuse really doesn’t work for Triple-A developers with all the resources imaginable at their disposal. You’re supposed to be industry leaders.
All AAA studios are killing themselves from the inside and I for one am looking on with great interest !!!
the devs were releasing broken and unfinished games for decades. And somehow that was ok.
Ofc I am only talking abot the game details leaked. Their personal data being released is not cool at all
Ideology is getting in the way of making good games for AAA studios.
I'm going to boycott all these greedy companies' games until they start giving us what we want.
All of you made all the points. They keep making games they want to play and cry when none of us buy them because they are full of nonsense.
I’m currently playing thru an extremely limited fast travel Hardcore modded playthru in fallout New Vegas, I fucking love it! No other fallout game has gotten me so engaged in story and gameplay. It’s just fun.
In regards to Bethesda not liking being upstaged it really worries me that they might send a cease and desist letter for Fallout London
is any of us actually waiting for TES 6 after starfield?
and FO76
I'm 51, I wonder how many of these announced releases I'll still be around to see. I suspect I'll never see Elder Scrolls 6, or Fallout V, assuming I live to the average lifespan for my country, of 83.
Why would you *want* Fallout 5 after the disease that was FO76?
Lately I'm just replaying old games. Doing a 4th playthrough of RDR2 and totally hooked even though I've put in 3 previous playthroughs. Playing on pc with mods this time. Also did a replay of Arkham Knight which I loved despite some issues. I hate this live gaming trend. Other than zelda took, I've barely touched any new AAA games. Not worth it.
I picked up all 3 Arkham games a few months ago for under $15 on Steam. Haven't played the 3rd one yet, but I loved the first 2 on PS3.
Look at past game releases. Every year there are only a handful of real bangers, games that will be remembered for how good they were.
2023 was no different. We had tons of trash but a few gems too.
@thebenc1537 for sure. I'm gonna play through Balders Gate 3 and Mario Wonder at some point in the neat future. There were some great games that came out in 23, no doubt.
@MartyrPandaGaming The third one from a gameplay perspective was the best for me. Some people really hated on the batmobile tank segments and had some issues with the story. I get it,but for me it was the best all around game in the trilogy. Gameplay and graphics/immersiveness were top notch.
for GTAV to be so successful, make so much money, and yet all of that success was still NOT enough for the publishers to allow any story single player DLC to be made, even while planning to charge for them separately.
This is why supporting triple A companies are a waste of time, they all deserve to go out of business.
" You hurt the people who make the games. "
Well, they've been hurting us with all the dog shit they've been pumping out over the past five years or so. So many things that could have been great but weren't because instead of standing your ground and telling suits this will be bad and go bad for you they just do as their told. I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for them. I get it, you need a job and you need to pay bills. But you can't shovel shit into people's laps and expect them to love you for it. Most of us know it's the suits ruining things but that's doesn't entirely excuse you from it. You still executed it and put it onto the market. I'm beyond giving developers a free pass with this mess.
There’s just no way fans of the Batman Arkham series can get over the disappointment of this not being a single player game of the type that Batman was. Live service just doesn’t fit. They’re trying to win over the wrong audience, instead of appealing to the Fortnight crowd. Live service sucks and I always stay far away from them. I like characters and story, not fetch quests and stat grinds.
There is a near zero chance I will even consider maybe trying Cyberpunk 2. Fool me once...
Remember when Games didn't have to have a political agenda inserted? Pepperidge farm remembers
When you said Elders Scroll online was 9 years old....I was like nah impossible.Went to steam to check the release date and its gonna be 10 years in April.Dude wtf ,I'm old.
I will gladly wait for Cyberpunk 2, now that they've got the first one under control. So much potential and lots of lessons learned - I don't think they will disappoint.
Ha
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
Looks like someone learned to be sarcastic. Welcome to the dark side of the force.
@@gazsarin Nah, I'm 200 hours in. And I most definitely avoided this game until last month.
i have around 500 hours in Cyberpunk 2077 and it is one of the best games i played PERIOD, and i have 30 years playing videogames.
Sure the game came out with a ton of technical problems, but CDPR fixed pratically all of them around patch 1.5, the subsequent patches and updates were all about improvments, until updates 2.0 and 2.1(and i not even counting the DLC that basically give a whole new campaign for the players) wich were basically a soft overall of the game systems, now i dare folks NAME ONE game better than Cyberpunk 2077, just NAME ONE!
Ahh yes, Starfield only won this Steam award because people who didn't enjoy the game came together, wasted their own time "troll voting" on its favor, so it could actually WIN a award and other games they think deserved it more would lose.... that makes absolute sense! And here I was thinking not voting for something I dont like is the right choice! LOL.. this is so childish.
Good to have you back bro. The video game industry is just on fire right now. Leaks, layoffs, and so much more is happening that will affect the industry for years to come. Hopefully the light at the end of that tunnel will be there, hopefully.
Steam Awards have become a joke.
Allow media to nominate, and then allow users to vote.
Been waiting for mans to post 👌😎 happy new year to you all and nothing but good vibes all year long
So these devs want us to feel bad for companies who keep increasing microtransactions and keep releasing unfinished games but charging full price for broken games, and saying its endangering people its not these companies are just mad because they cant keep secrets from consumers now and im all for it
You know... regardless if they announce a game or not, you have a wait. Their announcement has not much to do with the wait. We just have to learn to stop being victims to hype. I tend to actively and purposely forget about games until the year of release... and in the modern era, playing a game on day one isn't always the best experience so waiting after launch fixes usually gives you the best experience.
if a leak impacts your health then something is seriously wrong with the company you are at
The ONLY people that were getting mad at Hogwarts were the LGBTQ community....and not even the whole community but a bunch of Hasan Piker watching bleeding heart keyboard warriors. The VAST majority of gamers played it and liked it. Many of those gamers did so IN SPITE of the all the political hate this game got. Even Asmongold said he started playing it because people were bitching about this game.
Hate is only acceptable one way, its true in all of history and never ends well for both sides.
Regarding Bethesda's refusal to let Obsidian have a try: Pride before the fall. Also, that pride makes one wonder what hard line they might take on Fallout London.
Reason for obsidian not getting another shot from bethesda's simple. Obsidian did with new vegas in 17 months what bethesda couldnt do with fallout 3 that had 2 - 3 years if development. Bethesda has complwtely taken this the exact opposite way they should have. They should see obsidians success with new vegas as a wake up call. They need to self reflect and improve their standards in every field.
Glad to see you reporting again. Hope you have a great 2024
Harry Potter isnt controversial to anyone except a dozen weirdos on twitter. NOBODY else thought like them. There was zero controversy.
1) The Gladiator War.
2) The Ancient Ages of Greece. (Age of Hero's, The Bronze age, The Iron age & Golden age)
3) The Trojan War.
4) The Greatest Warrior in History. 8 phase's.
Welcome bac LK , take from a 66 yr old if u don’t have ur health u don’t have shit . But 2024 shaping up to be a great gaming yr , I will get to stream a new game almost every month lol. 👋🖖👨🦳🍾😎
The most innovative game? That is absolutely absurd. Bethesda has done nothing but make the same game, but with different skins like 5-6 times now. They havent made something innovative in 20 years. Giving them that award is legitimately offensive.
My problem with the steam awards is that a lot of the nominees are games I've never even heard of, let alone played so I vote for the game I know and played for. Now if we could just vote for the game we want instead of the finalists, I think it would be a lot more accurate.
Wtf? You can.
Just dont vote only for the finalists.
1- You can vote.
2- I'd advise to branch out on your knowledge of games and SH because most of them are actually good games.
I'd say that the only laughable winners for their categories are Starfield and RDR2.
@@Jodariel. I'm not that invested in toys to be fair.
Seeing as Mortal Kombat 1 got greedy, and offered less quality content compared to earlier releases under the WB Games banner it would not surprise me if Suicide Squad was also crap.
So after beating the game it gets innovative? Now that's gaming for you.
Cdpr has had such an amazing comeback❤️
Fallout: New Vegas may still be the 2nd best Fallout, right after FO2 - So obviously Todd would hate the fact that FONV is considered the best release under Bethesda, and they had nothing to do with it. Sucks to suck, Todd.
Never give them benefit of doubt. Never think 'Meh, its aight for a weekend or 2' Dont give them money. Unless 99% of live services fail and die on launch live services will keep being the trend. Dont think you are not part of the problem if you keep buying and then cry that games are shit
Its not about making games anymore its about making as much money before the next Project.
CDPR is probably backed by Poland govt in the backstage, so i do not see them being "aquired so easily", besides CDPR is right here, they do have potential to be one of the top dogs of the game industry if they keep making good games, and even folks who don't like Cyberpunk have to admit that this games is big even with all the controversy surrounding it.
THE JOKER ISN'T EVEN IN THE BASE GAME!!!!!!! WHAAAAAAAT!? The business community is wringing out the tech space like a sponge (streaming services included)
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I have absolutely no interest in an Obsidian made Elder Scrolls game, and that doesn't even conceptually make sense to go that route. Just let Obsidian work on Fallout 5 while Bethesda works on ES6. Makes 1000x more sense, and after how much Bethesda butchered the Fallout lore with Fallout 4 and 76 I would much rather have a 3rd party company come in and try to right that ship at this point because it's abundantly clear that Bethesda doesn't have any respect for the integrity of that IP.
I feel bad for devs having their personal info shared, thats crossing a ling but I don't give a single solitary fuck about Insomniac being hacked and having gameplay of their upcoming games shared ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Triple a Gambling Industry is an abomination.
I'm not sure on the metrics of ESO, but I'm sure it's safe to assume that a tie in ES or Fallout would do well as the interest in deep single player RPGs hasn't gone away. It's like was mentioned, Bethesda is worried that they will be upstaged and really, who can blame them haha.
It's so funny that Bethesda is still so salty and butt hurt about new vegas. Honestly if they'd done right by obsidian and acknowledged that they did a good job and moved on then people wouldn't keep bringing it up.