So much fun to hear these words again. Growing up in Gold River, saltchuck was the ocean, fair skookum was a win-win situation, but skookum could also be a nice way of saying a baby was fat - like a big, healthy baby was skookum. I remember my mom saying her arrogant co-worker thought he was some kind of big muckamuck. Both parents used that one a lot for people who thought they were more important than they actually were.
chinook was the basic in trade language , through the creation of both, Astoria and New Caledonia before the province of what was forced as a British Columbia,.. majority of the first people continue to adopt some of the trade language,..by choice, since there was always trading going on,.. the sale of the forts, didn't mean the lands went with it,.. but it was falsely accepted as a sale to Canada,.. and the change from Astoria, and New Caledonia wasn't acceptable as well,.. was suppose to include first people, there was no agreement to give up territory from the Salish Tribes to be either american or canadian,.. the continued delay to include first peoples leadership to move canada forward, still is been understood by all first peoples, and ignored from the province of canada,..
So if I'm following the lineage correctly then, Vancouver BC was really only renamed "Vancouver" (from its original name Granville) because the settlers of Vancouver Washington were in essence "forced" (or opted to resettle) north into what ultimately became BC (due to the international boundary being drawn)? I wonder if there is anyone that can clarify or corroborate that for me??
Well edited, but it's almost frustrating to listen to. Just something about the way the guy speaks puts me off with how he ends sentences and speaks so quiet and soft.
The priority should be the traditional First Languages. But Chinook Wawa has played an important role as a language used between peoples that brought people together and its vocabulary and grammar have elements of many First Languages. It also deserves our respect.
Chinook Wawa began as a pidgin, but it developed into a proper creole language. A pidgin is an incomplete language that is not a mother tongue and cannot be used for the full range of expression. A creole is a language that IS learned as a mother tongue and can be used for a full range of expression. The signs of a creole include the existence of newspapers, novels, and poetry in the language. There was at least one newspaper published in Chinook Wawa as late as the 1930s! Many examples of personal correspondence written in Wawa also attest to outta use as a complete language - a creole, rather than just a pidgin. One of the reasons to learn Chinook Wawa as the language of the Cascadia bioregion is that it simultaneously privileges the indigenous roots of our local culture and includes a rich array of other influences brought by migrants from far away. It has the potential to strengthen our bonds and recognition of our history together as we build our future together.
@@maddersmudder It also is a reflection of a different way of doing things where the first people are respected and learned from cooperated with lived with etc rather than just treated as an obstacle and something to be changed the way the US and later canadian confederation did it. The worst part of BC joining confederation was how the indigenous peoples were treated by the federal government and im not saying "lone" BC did everything perfectly but nobody was rounded up and forced into residential schools etc until confederation when the decision was made by ottawa. BC did also protect some first nations from American miners who wanted to essentially shoot them and deny them any ability to stake gold claims whereas governor Douglas insisted that claims be open to all races on a first come basis. Its also glossed over a lot that other races came to early BC besides whites. Blacks came to try and be free of how they were treated in the US and you even had hawaiians. Kanaka bar comes from the chinook word for "someone from hawaii" Lots of bad happened which cant be allowed to be revisionised like the 5 chiefs who were hanged when they should have been offered a peace summit but in the 19th century when colonization was very bloody, ingigenous peoples around the world were outright massacared and segregation was just considered "normal" there are many examples from early BC that show quite a progressive stance especially for the era. A truly horrible fate awaited the first people who ended up on the US side of the border. Chinook wawa is a symbol for me of something that should have happened. Integration by people of other races than just whites with the people who were already here rather than pushing them aside and trying to convert them.
So much fun to hear these words again. Growing up in Gold River, saltchuck was the ocean, fair skookum was a win-win situation, but skookum could also be a nice way of saying a baby was fat - like a big, healthy baby was skookum. I remember my mom saying her arrogant co-worker thought he was some kind of big muckamuck. Both parents used that one a lot for people who thought they were more important than they actually were.
Naika wawa tenas Tsinuk wawa pe halo naika shikhs wawa.
Spose mika tikegh, Patlatch mika kumtuks spose klaska, spose delate mika tikegh :P. Kopet nika patlatch mokst wawa ikta spose nika shiksh, "skookum" pi "saltchuck"...
I think the audio is really quiet on this video. All other videos on youtube in my same browser are much louder.
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chinook was the basic in trade language , through the creation of both, Astoria and New Caledonia before the province of what was forced as a British Columbia,.. majority of the first people continue to adopt some of the trade language,..by choice, since there was always trading going on,.. the sale of the forts, didn't mean the lands went with it,.. but it was falsely accepted as a sale to Canada,.. and the change from Astoria, and New Caledonia wasn't acceptable as well,.. was suppose to include first people, there was no agreement to give up territory from the Salish Tribes to be either american or canadian,.. the continued delay to include first peoples leadership to move canada forward, still is been understood by all first peoples, and ignored from the province of canada,..
So if I'm following the lineage correctly then, Vancouver BC was really only renamed "Vancouver" (from its original name Granville) because the settlers of Vancouver Washington were in essence "forced" (or opted to resettle) north into what ultimately became BC (due to the international boundary being drawn)? I wonder if there is anyone that can clarify or corroborate that for me??
No there was no direct relationship. Please see the video Naming Vancouver ruclips.net/video/69s6MrUiwLc/видео.html
So basically the same thing that happened with metlakatla, alaska?
Well edited, but it's almost frustrating to listen to. Just something about the way the guy speaks puts me off with how he ends sentences and speaks so quiet and soft.
So these peoples could not speak or trade with each other before Captain Cook and his midshipman arrived?
They used exogamy, marrying out to diversify language skills. Also slaves.
This 'wawa' is not a real language, rather it is just a pidgin. What we really need to learn are the indigenous languages such as Chinook and Nootka.
The priority should be the traditional First Languages. But Chinook Wawa has played an important role as a language used between peoples that brought people together and its vocabulary and grammar have elements of many First Languages. It also deserves our respect.
Chinook Wawa began as a pidgin, but it developed into a proper creole language. A pidgin is an incomplete language that is not a mother tongue and cannot be used for the full range of expression. A creole is a language that IS learned as a mother tongue and can be used for a full range of expression. The signs of a creole include the existence of newspapers, novels, and poetry in the language. There was at least one newspaper published in Chinook Wawa as late as the 1930s! Many examples of personal correspondence written in Wawa also attest to outta use as a complete language - a creole, rather than just a pidgin.
One of the reasons to learn Chinook Wawa as the language of the Cascadia bioregion is that it simultaneously privileges the indigenous roots of our local culture and includes a rich array of other influences brought by migrants from far away. It has the potential to strengthen our bonds and recognition of our history together as we build our future together.
@@maddersmudder
It also is a reflection of a different way of doing things where the first people are respected and learned from cooperated with lived with etc rather than just treated as an obstacle and something to be changed the way the US and later canadian confederation did it. The worst part of BC joining confederation was how the indigenous peoples were treated by the federal government and im not saying "lone" BC did everything perfectly but nobody was rounded up and forced into residential schools etc until confederation when the decision was made by ottawa. BC did also protect some first nations from American miners who wanted to essentially shoot them and deny them any ability to stake gold claims whereas governor Douglas insisted that claims be open to all races on a first come basis. Its also glossed over a lot that other races came to early BC besides whites. Blacks came to try and be free of how they were treated in the US and you even had hawaiians. Kanaka bar comes from the chinook word for "someone from hawaii"
Lots of bad happened which cant be allowed to be revisionised like the 5 chiefs who were hanged when they should have been offered a peace summit but in the 19th century when colonization was very bloody, ingigenous peoples around the world were outright massacared and segregation was just considered "normal" there are many examples from early BC that show quite a progressive stance especially for the era. A truly horrible fate awaited the first people who ended up on the US side of the border.
Chinook wawa is a symbol for me of something that should have happened. Integration by people of other races than just whites with the people who were already here rather than pushing them aside and trying to convert them.