Great video, i remember thinking I would be glad when these crap boxes were all gone and even the early double deckers too as i wanted air con. They were so hot in summer and cold in winter. Well looking back with nostalgia i loved the sound of the dc traction motors and also the diamond pantographs. They looked terrible in the blue and white livery , the tuscsn looked so good, i also think they aould havexlooked sensational in dark green. I still remember the old bradfield cars. The funny thing is back in those days the trains were quicker, now these trains seem to go so painnfully slow that you csn almost walk faster. I remember a train I used to catch from Strathfield to Blacktown, after Parramatta the next stop was Blacktown and they would be travelling at 100 kph. Must admit when they put scissorxarm pantographs on some of them it really spoilt the look of them
@@Steven_Rowe I was never a rail commuter so my riding was only for fun, so I could pick and choose riding according to the weather. I always have liked the sounds of traction motors, or more accurately the spur gears which most of these trains had. At least the V sets make satisfactory sounds, but not for much longer. Blue and white did not consider the results of pantograph muck running down from the roof. Yes trains are painfully slow in Sydney now, not much better elsewhere. North Sydney to Central used to take 10 minutes, a few trains got 11 minutes in the Peaks. And that was when nearly all trains had only 2 motors per power car. So why do today’s much stronger trains take 14 minutes for the same trip? The same would apply to just about every other trip on the system. And why? I suspect that slower Trains are much more likely to remain on time to provide nice statistics for the transport minister to report in Parliament. Too bad for the hapless passengers that take forever to get anywhere on trains.
Yes, and I was especially proud of the stop at Milsons Point. While I had a lot of experience driving S sets, there were few chances to drive the Standard sets with their somewhat more primitive air brakes. The last thing I expected was to be offered the controls especially still being daylight.
@@Clynikal Yes they did all seem nice and clean, not that I ever recall seeing them looking like they had not seen a wash for ages. The fact that TV cameras would be everywhere may have helped as well.
used the single decker many times in my school days. Those silver sets at that era was the "S" set? Common to have a 4 cars set at the time. One of those was 6 cars R set?
The single deck silver trains which went to Gosford and Blue Mountains and were U sets. The first all-double deck silver trains (originally they came out painted red) were the S sets. The last were retired a few years ago.
@@Woodland26 When a certain Mr Shirley, I think from Britain, was the railway boss he decided to brighten up the carriages so the blue and white colour scheme was devised. Except for one enthusiast special run when that colour scheme was ending, these blue and white carriages were not kept together and often just one or two were in the same train, and they were not necessarily placed together. Blue and white paint also showed staining which came from the pantograph in wet weather, barely noticeable on the red colour scheme.
@@tressteleg1 Phillip Shirley was from Britain. And before he came out here was influential in Dr Beeching Wielding his axe on two-thirds of Britain's rail network. However by 1975 he left The PTC due mainly to a campaign by The Rail Union, The Media and The State Opposition against his ruthless business practices.
@DKS225 Shirley was one of several second or third rate transport “experts“ which New South Wales hired for a period of time. However the present incumbent, Howard Collins, is very much an exception who had even worked as a London bus driver in the past and who has been instrumental in things like getting the red set back on the road as well as being of good benefit to New South Wales transport in general. When he retires, it will apparently be in Sydney rather than his native UK.
Well people knew how to look after themselves in those days. I have a photo of a couple of high school boys riding home from school, sitting on the floor just inside the open doors, and leaning back against the bulkheads. I meant to add it to this video redo, but unfortunately forgot. As for the insulting red rattler, that term had long been used on the Melbourne Taits but was not in use in Sydney until the newspapers, keen to denigrate those trains, started using it for the last year or 2 in their push to get rid of them.
The Red Rattlers or the old W Class trams with no doors and we still are alive. Maybe because we could think a little bit more than a lot of people do today🤔
The open doors. Where endless seat were thrown and school kids injured leaving moving carriages. The gym gear in the vestibule area. The ice cold winter days and horrid summer heat. Yeah miss those red rattlers. Then they replaced them with the fixed window staino things that had zero ventilation
All those events did happen occasionally, but it’s not as though they were happening dozens of times every day and people falling out getting killed daily. People falling out of Trains usually did so as a result of doing something silly, or being pushed by someone even more silly.
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Great video, i remember thinking I would be glad when these crap boxes were all gone and even the early double deckers too as i wanted air con.
They were so hot in summer and cold in winter.
Well looking back with nostalgia i loved the sound of the dc traction motors and also the diamond pantographs.
They looked terrible in the blue and white livery , the tuscsn looked so good, i also think they aould havexlooked sensational in dark green.
I still remember the old bradfield cars.
The funny thing is back in those days the trains were quicker, now these trains seem to go so painnfully slow that you csn almost walk faster.
I remember a train I used to catch from Strathfield to Blacktown, after Parramatta the next stop was Blacktown and they would be travelling at 100 kph.
Must admit when they put scissorxarm pantographs on some of them it really spoilt the look of them
@@Steven_Rowe I was never a rail commuter so my riding was only for fun, so I could pick and choose riding according to the weather. I always have liked the sounds of traction motors, or more accurately the spur gears which most of these trains had. At least the V sets make satisfactory sounds, but not for much longer. Blue and white did not consider the results of pantograph muck running down from the roof.
Yes trains are painfully slow in Sydney now, not much better elsewhere. North Sydney to Central used to take 10 minutes, a few trains got 11 minutes in the Peaks. And that was when nearly all trains had only 2 motors per power car. So why do today’s much stronger trains take 14 minutes for the same trip? The same would apply to just about every other trip on the system. And why? I suspect that slower Trains are much more likely to remain on time to provide nice statistics for the transport minister to report in Parliament. Too bad for the hapless passengers that take forever to get anywhere on trains.
Awesome video of old single deck cars. Thanks tressteleg1💚👌👍
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I bet it felt good driving that, Richard.
Yes, and I was especially proud of the stop at Milsons Point. While I had a lot of experience driving S sets, there were few chances to drive the Standard sets with their somewhat more primitive air brakes. The last thing I expected was to be offered the controls especially still being daylight.
I’m guessing the Sydney cars went through a good wash for that day. They look nice.
@@Clynikal Yes they did all seem nice and clean, not that I ever recall seeing them looking like they had not seen a wash for ages. The fact that TV cameras would be everywhere may have helped as well.
used the single decker many times in my school days. Those silver sets at that era was the "S" set? Common to have a 4 cars set at the time. One of those was 6 cars R set?
The single deck silver trains which went to Gosford and Blue Mountains and were U sets. The first all-double deck silver trains (originally they came out painted red) were the S sets. The last were retired a few years ago.
@@tressteleg1 yes I remember some red double decker, plus some carriages had white and blue colour scheme for a short while.
@@Woodland26 When a certain Mr Shirley, I think from Britain, was the railway boss he decided to brighten up the carriages so the blue and white colour scheme was devised. Except for one enthusiast special run when that colour scheme was ending, these blue and white carriages were not kept together and often just one or two were in the same train, and they were not necessarily placed together. Blue and white paint also showed staining which came from the pantograph in wet weather, barely noticeable on the red colour scheme.
@@tressteleg1 Phillip Shirley was from Britain. And before he came out here was influential in Dr Beeching Wielding his axe on two-thirds of Britain's rail network. However by 1975 he left The PTC due mainly to a campaign by The Rail Union, The Media and The State Opposition against his ruthless business practices.
@DKS225 Shirley was one of several second or third rate transport “experts“ which New South Wales hired for a period of time. However the present incumbent, Howard Collins, is very much an exception who had even worked as a London bus driver in the past and who has been instrumental in things like getting the red set back on the road as well as being of good benefit to New South Wales transport in general. When he retires, it will apparently be in Sydney rather than his native UK.
what's the difference between the original upload?
@@livinlifetothefullest2750 Nothing. I accidentally deleted the original so just reposted it.
@@tressteleg1 cool
I’m just letting you know new Pakenham and east Pakenham stations are open
Thanks. It didn’t look like a lot of work was still to be completed when I was there in February.
I still reckon Melbourne's red rattler looks better, more caricature 😅
Their design was archaic even when new. I suppose you might say they are so ugly that you have to love them….. Well, sort-of.
Red Rattlers, amazing more people didnt fall out in Peak hours. Doors, what doors.
Well people knew how to look after themselves in those days. I have a photo of a couple of high school boys riding home from school, sitting on the floor just inside the open doors, and leaning back against the bulkheads. I meant to add it to this video redo, but unfortunately forgot.
As for the insulting red rattler, that term had long been used on the Melbourne Taits but was not in use in Sydney until the newspapers, keen to denigrate those trains, started using it for the last year or 2 in their push to get rid of them.
The Red Rattlers or the old W Class trams with no doors and we still are alive. Maybe because we could think a little bit more than a lot of people do today🤔
@@peterausfranken Maybe we had to think and were not wrapped up in cotton wool like today.
I'm they serverd the people of Sydney Australia 🇦🇺 well 😮😅
Yes, for about 65 years.
The open doors. Where endless seat were thrown and school kids injured leaving moving carriages. The gym gear in the vestibule area. The ice cold winter days and horrid summer heat. Yeah miss those red rattlers. Then they replaced them with the fixed window staino things that had zero ventilation
All those events did happen occasionally, but it’s not as though they were happening dozens of times every day and people falling out getting killed daily. People falling out of Trains usually did so as a result of doing something silly, or being pushed by someone even more silly.