I really would like a League of Legends/Hall of Fame equivalent to these. Even if they aged at this point, just a look back at some of the most iconic Legends releases. LF MVP Android 17 for example would be a fun one.
I have Broly at 14 stars. Here are the issues with him 1: His damage infliction's is locked behind too much nonsense. He has to fill gauge, transform, fill gauge again and KO an enemy to get full damage buffs. All this in a meta fill with disruptive units and auto gauge characters 2: His combo potential is mid. Broly can barely pop his gauge due to his poor Ki recovery and lack of arts cost reduction 3: His defense is very poor, Broly only wants to be runned with Offense Z ability characters due to his defense being so underwhelming that there isn't a point running him with defensive Z ability units. This characters wants damage, not defense. This is silly due to his damage and combo potential being held back, making him very very squishy If they want to fix LF Z Broly he needs the following 15% to Impact, Explode and Slice resistance when transformed in addition to a 50% disrupt Stacking Cut Penetration When he enters the battle field he gets an extra 80% to unique gauge fill (activate once) so he doesn't miss out of damage by not filling the gauge An extra - 5 to arts cost and 60% to Ki recovery to improve combo potential His cover change stoppage should fill his gauge and shouldn't be negated by unique gauges like MV or G4 (dumbest shit ever) Goes type neutral upon transforming and activating a green card
My question is how does a BROLY character, a character that died because he had too much energy surging inside his body, have a problem with ki management
@@Meelow-jp8lbHe was never good. The featured boost makes any unit broken, what matters is if a character is still good outside the featured boost and ultra broly was never good
It’s funny how Dokkan actually respected Z Broly enough to give him a whole ass WWC celebration and gave him 2 very strong units. Meanwhile on Legends…yikes.
@@onezz3535The fact that they not only finally made a Good F2P LR but a Prime Battle one nonetheless out of his of all people continues to baffle me lmao
Idk why they made lf dbz broly a glass canon when this man has shown defensive strength in the movies . Like he survived getting gut punched by a combined power of the z fighters . Like come on thats a clear example broly should be X3 better defensively
Again. SSG Goku is good, he was just in a really bad meta. Like, some time after him UG4 dropped. Nowadays he is pretty good. For LF Broly and LF Vegeta.. they are only good under certain circumstances, and are way too frail. But they do nice damage
While his defenses being shit is definitely a factor on why he is soo underwhelming it mostly is his poor combo potential and lack of type neutrality that makes him soo ass
A unique equip that would make him very solid without needing too much stuff would have -5 or -10 to card cost, type neutral defensively and Ki recovery upon entry, and a hp restore plus damage buffs per hit
All he needs to be solid is ki protection so it can't be reduced and card protection, If he has those 2 he can properly lock someone in (excluding lock in as that's not his gimmick like UUI)
He already has ki protection. I'd say the issue isn't his ki getting disrupted, but rather just him having 29 cost blasts. He just needed arts cost down and maybe some ki restoration when using a blast and he would have been a lot better. Card protection when the lock in activates would have been nice too but I dunno if that would have been too strong or not
20:30 I think it's because Beast exists. His "No Special Cover Changing" mechanic allows anyone to rush or ultimate while he's on standby since it's a debuff that can't be removed or cancelled. Side note, his League of Losers video is going to be fun lol
i really like his animations and his transformation. he just needed way more offensive tools if thats all he does, like being immune to card destruction and or ki reduction and increase effects, and his lock in anti cover change needed to actually lock in instead of allowing someone to just switch out after the first usage. making it pointless. ui locks you in when he activates it. thats what broly needed.
lf broly is completely fine as he is. all these new busted overpowered characters with 100 abilities just spoiled a ton of people that play this game. i usually use this broly and he gets a ton of wins
8:55 can some one explaIn to my why this happens ive read his kit like five time and i still dont understand why, and can you also explain how and when i should use it??
Only thing he lacks in is defense ngl. His ki is one thing, but I feel it’s fairly balanced considering the damage he can do. It would be nice if he had a little more type neutral, but it is what it is.
Defense would be the least of his issues if he could actually run down teams like he's supposed to. Instead he gets hit by an arts cost increase and he's just useless
@ true, but a lot of times, I’ll get half of my health taken from losing a strike blast counter against a blue character. (Mind you, he had 3.4 mil health on my team)
Man I just got him and he is so fun, if u are a good player I u can still run him for the fun, z broly is also one of my favorites so that’s a bonus for me
I blame that one unique equip that gives every broly 20% extra damage inflicted. Or rather i think that equip existing scares the team behind the game to where they dont wanna make any broly too scary to not have it get even more oppresive especially since hes a super saiyan too
@@deltaspecies1697if you look at the tier lists you’ll definitely see how quick he fell off, the only reason he was ran for as long as he was is because fusion warriors was such a good team, the second that omega came out he was legitimately useless and his slot on the team had been filled.
@@deltaspecies1697 He as at top 5 during one of the most purple heavy meta with frieza ,gohan and ug4 around. Even with those conditions after the anni he was never used .
I never really got this clarified myself but off context clues pure seems to be more valuable. I tried to think of a reasoning but it sounded dumb “Pure targets the pure stat and base targets the bas stat”
I don't really think Broly needs card draw speed since his gauge already gives him cards But the ki issue I do see Something they could've gave him wherehe gets maybe 10 of not more ki every he does an action such as using a card, vanishing and more
This unit has had the biggest switchup I've ever seen IN MY LIFE (Mr Beast is a close second tho.) He went from being feared and glazed to kingdom come to now being rendered utter garbage.
Goresh so biased against broly its hilarious. he definitely could’ve been better but he serves his purpose as a glass cannon pretty well, with zenkais he can go neutral & one shot most characters in the game once he’s built up.
No this is not bias. As someone who hit god rank after this broly's banner left, you didn't see him at ALL, and for good reason. This characters only saving grace is his lock-in. And even then its a worse version of Ultra UI. His above average damage is completely useless considering one small combo is all it takes for him to fall like a deck of cards. Hell, he can't even handle modern combo disrupt anymore to do the damage build-up he needs.
@@CultureKuma Seriously, I was running Evil Buu when he came out and he would stop every single Broly after 2 cards, a hyper-offensive unit that can't handle disrupts is useless
@@CultureKuma no he is not braindead like the characters that a god rank player might care about, He is still very effective if you play around all the nonsense. I play for FUN & I clap meta teams consistently with Pan, Broly & random ultra of choice. With broly you have to be smart and make quick decisions that could make or break the game, but that risk gives you a very large reward often killing a unit if you planned it out. To me that’s exciting and fun. If he’s “useless” to you it’s because you don’t know how to use him. He literally killed the newest ultra in basically one card in this video so there’s clearly use for him.
@@Giogio_17 In that perspective, that makes total sense. He's definitely not a bad unit by any means, and his raw blue card when he's built up is evaporating half of the top 10 easy. It's just when you play competitive, consistency is everything, and he's more of a "I own this match" or "I'm useless this match" kinda character.
now, make a video about Lf Nappa, Lf Fusing Gogeta and Lf GT kid Goku (btw, these 3 chars are good, comparable to previous League of Losers units, but still because of specific problems, they are far worse comparable to other 2024 Lfs) and then do a proud match video with all 6 members of the League
I really don't get all the hate for red broly , the only issue I m seeing in his kit is the super high ki cost of it's cards He has explosive damage , no switching, rechargeable gauge , color nullification, vanish restoration This unit in the hand of a good player is smthg else
Feels like a year has passed... The Legendary Broly Boost was a thing... Can't believe it...
Did my boy Broly dirty
Touch me
@@AidenPierce-ck1wr🫳🫴🫰✊️
Touch you? No! I wanna punch you@@AidenPierce-ck1wr
@@AidenPierce-ck1wrbro what 💀
The treatment Broly got in Dokkan compared to Legends is actually day and night in difference
Agreed, except for EZA INT Broly
I pulled all three of those back to back Broly's and dropped my other team for them 😂😂😂 they're fun and have great animations
@savior132we don’t talk about him
@savior132 he can cook in quest mode
Explain dokkan broly in legends terms
I really would like a League of Legends/Hall of Fame equivalent to these. Even if they aged at this point, just a look back at some of the most iconic Legends releases. LF MVP Android 17 for example would be a fun one.
Its literally just gonna be your average buu saga team
@@joschuych.4752 its going to be majn buu saga characters plus LF tvb and ultra turles
Can you believe LF Ultimate Gohan from the anni is starting to age already? Wtf is going on with this meta?
League of... Legends? Say that again
So Ultra LFs?😂😂😂😂😂
Seeing broly then “league of losers text” beside him just hurts my heart.
I have Broly at 14 stars. Here are the issues with him
1: His damage infliction's is locked behind too much nonsense. He has to fill gauge, transform, fill gauge again and KO an enemy to get full damage buffs. All this in a meta fill with disruptive units and auto gauge characters
2: His combo potential is mid. Broly can barely pop his gauge due to his poor Ki recovery and lack of arts cost reduction
3: His defense is very poor, Broly only wants to be runned with Offense Z ability characters due to his defense being so underwhelming that there isn't a point running him with defensive Z ability units. This characters wants damage, not defense. This is silly due to his damage and combo potential being held back, making him very very squishy
If they want to fix LF Z Broly he needs the following
15% to Impact, Explode and Slice resistance when transformed in addition to a 50% disrupt
Stacking Cut Penetration
When he enters the battle field he gets an extra 80% to unique gauge fill (activate once) so he doesn't miss out of damage by not filling the gauge
An extra - 5 to arts cost and 60% to Ki recovery to improve combo potential
His cover change stoppage should fill his gauge and shouldn't be negated by unique gauges like MV or G4 (dumbest shit ever)
Goes type neutral upon transforming and activating a green card
Honestly you hit it right on the head. As someone who also used z broly alot. Sad my boi got shafted 😢
My question is how does a BROLY character, a character that died because he had too much energy surging inside his body, have a problem with ki management
@@bizarrionON GOD broly out of all people in dbz should not have problems with ki issues. he’s always overflowing with it.
@@bizarrion This is DB Legends, they refuse to design lore accurate Brolys cause there precious Vegitos and Gohans and Androids would get stomped out
i’m employed what this mean
They somehow made Z Broly lose all his aura 😭
Just gooned at your pfp's r34, btw why'd you put h$ntai as your profile?
@@SamTheRipper bro what
@@SamTheRipper bro what 💀
@@SamTheRipper😢
@@SamTheRipper ._.
Are we gonna get the League of Legends next?
U mean League of Sigmas ? 😂
@@GigaChadsAreReal no just no
@kevinuchiha6830 it's a joke that references to TerminalMontage :)
Legends limited Jinx
@@GigaChadsAreReal the joke is ass
Broly in Z movie: 👹
Broly Z in Legends: 🤪🤡
Yes
ULTRA Z Broly wss insanely good pre-MV.
@@Meelow-jp8lbHe was never good. The featured boost makes any unit broken, what matters is if a character is still good outside the featured boost and ultra broly was never good
@edwardemere6557 I'm talking about after he got his ULTRA Plat (he WAS good).
@@Meelow-jp8lbI think he was back in boost when he got his plat
Oh there it is
sup Gote
Man he not that bad
It’s funny how Dokkan actually respected Z Broly enough to give him a whole ass WWC celebration and gave him 2 very strong units.
Meanwhile on Legends…yikes.
Lets not forget bio broly
@@onezz3535The fact that they not only finally made a Good F2P LR but a Prime Battle one nonetheless out of his of all people continues to baffle me lmao
Idk why they made lf dbz broly a glass canon when this man has shown defensive strength in the movies . Like he survived getting gut punched by a combined power of the z fighters . Like come on thats a clear example broly should be X3 better defensively
The ultra is more representative example of his defense and offense
Goresh is having a field day exposing the trash
I knew Goresh was gonna put Broly on this list of characters
Yep, ;^; he isn't him 😅 I have all Ll followed the meta since day one of the game his falling is ultra vegito level
Just realized we STILL don't have an Lf first Z Broly Goku (or a Transforming first Movie Z Broly).
We have an ultra of that version instead of
@PomadaGaming Yeah, but we're 6 years into the game, how do we NOT have an LF First movie Z Broly of some kind?
They were busy spamming son fam and fusions@@Meelow-jp8lb
DBZ Broly, Final Flash Vegeta, and SSG Goku all getting fumbled in a single year is crazy.
Don't forget Rose
Again. SSG Goku is good, he was just in a really bad meta. Like, some time after him UG4 dropped. Nowadays he is pretty good. For LF Broly and LF Vegeta.. they are only good under certain circumstances, and are way too frail. But they do nice damage
Bro was an endurance away from being good
While his defenses being shit is definitely a factor on why he is soo underwhelming it mostly is his poor combo potential and lack of type neutrality that makes him soo ass
Literally, he dies in half a combo
And better ki recovery and lower arts costs
A unique equip that would make him very solid without needing too much stuff would have -5 or -10 to card cost, type neutral defensively and Ki recovery upon entry, and a hp restore plus damage buffs per hit
Movies would be too goated
All he needs to be solid is ki protection so it can't be reduced and card protection,
If he has those 2 he can properly lock someone in (excluding lock in as that's not his gimmick like UUI)
He already has ki protection. I'd say the issue isn't his ki getting disrupted, but rather just him having 29 cost blasts. He just needed arts cost down and maybe some ki restoration when using a blast and he would have been a lot better.
Card protection when the lock in activates would have been nice too but I dunno if that would have been too strong or not
@savior132that could have worked out too I agree with you
@savior132 Exactly, his biggest problem isn't the low defense, but the fact that he's a unit that wants to do longer combos with full costs cards.
@savior132 facts
All 3 of the shafted characters have such beautiful animations
Super vegeta, godku, broly, etc
20:30 I think it's because Beast exists. His "No Special Cover Changing" mechanic allows anyone to rush or ultimate while he's on standby since it's a debuff that can't be removed or cancelled.
Side note, his League of Losers video is going to be fun lol
I have caught so many people off guard with that. Of course I got guessed in all those scenarios but it's still funny.
Saw the title and had the most confused look on my face. LF broly??
lf broly exists thats for sure
His Lf:- Ultra Level🦸♂️
His Kit:- Monthly sparking zenkai Level💀
He should've got permanent double card draw when he defeats an enemy.
When transforming he should get -10 to all arts cost and he's good enough
I love when super vegeta and goku black fused to make red LF broly truly inspiring Goresh
One of my favorite releases. Such a sad moment in legends history
you should do ultra frieza next for the league of losers character
Ngl goresh, this is a great series and would be better if you kept it up next year.
The first ever screen shatter i got was on this banner. It hurts to see him here but it was obvious he was coming up
Enjoyed the video man
❤from Nigeria
i really like his animations and his transformation. he just needed way more offensive tools if thats all he does, like being immune to card destruction and or ki reduction and increase effects, and his lock in anti cover change needed to actually lock in instead of allowing someone to just switch out after the first usage. making it pointless. ui locks you in when he activates it. thats what broly needed.
"Not until you lie oiled up at my feet Goresh"
Such a cool character.
Goresh's Minions can't have their own opinion, Broly was the best LF of the year
Best LF of the year is crazy considering Gotenks exists and is a better red LF. If you meant the LF animations then yeah you're right
lf broly is completely fine as he is. all these new busted overpowered characters with 100 abilities just spoiled a ton of people that play this game. i usually use this broly and he gets a ton of wins
8:55 can some one explaIn to my why this happens ive read his kit like five time and i still dont understand why, and can you also explain how and when i should use it??
i think broly actually has more value since his issue was ssj4 gogeta and not many blues plus the yellows has him in a pretty good spot
Slightly off-topic, but could anyone tell me who the artist is behind the Broly artwork featured on the right side of this video’s HUD?
Nah man this broly is amazing
Only thing he lacks in is defense ngl. His ki is one thing, but I feel it’s fairly balanced considering the damage he can do. It would be nice if he had a little more type neutral, but it is what it is.
Nah his ki is definitely a problem, doesn’t matter what damage you can do if you can’t use a card
Defense would be the least of his issues if he could actually run down teams like he's supposed to. Instead he gets hit by an arts cost increase and he's just useless
@ true, but a lot of times, I’ll get half of my health taken from losing a strike blast counter against a blue character. (Mind you, he had 3.4 mil health on my team)
I still think this mini series should've been called 'League of Embarrassment'
We need a Lf g4 showcase. Ppl seem to forget that he’s immune to card cost increases which at least puts him in a decent spot in the meta
Anyone know the name of the background music at 26:00?
Agl LR Broly Active Skill OST
NOT MY GOAT BROLY!!! 😭😭😭
Man I just got him and he is so fun, if u are a good player I u can still run him for the fun, z broly is also one of my favorites so that’s a bonus for me
The Happy Meal Setup has Returned!
33:27 out of context that green card is so funny😂😂
I can’t wait for the League of Winners so we can finally have the greatest unit of all time Sparking Yellow Pikkon be revisited.
Yknow who isn’t in this league? Lf Yellow Future Gohan. The best aging unit in legends history
21:48 well I guess that’s kinda movie accurate
I hope that they eventually give us a Broly that is worthy of the monicker of “The Legendary Super Saiyan.”
Does anyone else think that Goresh got the idea for the League Of Losers, From my hero academia League Of Villains 😂🤣💀😭
When are we getting a League of Losers showcase on LF Cooler?
I blame that one unique equip that gives every broly 20% extra damage inflicted.
Or rather i think that equip existing scares the team behind the game to where they dont wanna make any broly too scary to not have it get even more oppresive especially since hes a super saiyan too
I dont care what people say this guy is still good and I like him a lot
I feel like Fusing Gogeta blue should be on this series ,he was ok on release but he was power creeped so fast its crazy.
Eh not really. FGB was actually top 3 and top 5 for sometime. Meanwhile, units like Broly, Godku, SV were dead on arrival.
@@deltaspecies1697if you look at the tier lists you’ll definitely see how quick he fell off, the only reason he was ran for as long as he was is because fusion warriors was such a good team, the second that omega came out he was legitimately useless and his slot on the team had been filled.
@@deltaspecies1697top 3 is pushing it 😂😂 the copium is unreal even 6 months later
@omealvincar9646 in goresh's and pretty much every other top rank CC's lists, FGB was 2-4 range after UG4s release. Ur the only one coping here.
@@deltaspecies1697 He as at top 5 during one of the most purple heavy meta with frieza ,gohan and ug4 around. Even with those conditions after the anni he was never used .
27:30 super vegeta has worse ki issues 😭🙏🏽
What a coincidence i literally watched Brolys second coming 2 minutes ago
👀
Goresh, you should include the Buu Duo and Z Trunks in this series since they both received their zenkais in 2024
Its interesting that a character known for having massive, overflowing, and almost limitless ki (both in Super AND Z)... has ki problems in Legends.
Broly is pretty good right now due to all the yellows.
Finally, after looking at 36 thousand, I found one character from the festival, which is Goku Super Saiyan 3.
Ubeast gohan = thats enough
Broly= not until you dead in my feet
Ubeast gohan= ☠️🪦
What’s the difference between pure strike and base strike?
I wanna know this too
I never really got this clarified myself but off context clues pure seems to be more valuable. I tried to think of a reasoning but it sounded dumb
“Pure targets the pure stat and base targets the bas stat”
He’s still goated
Goresh exposing failed lfs to put in the a or b tier
It’s shocking how much Toshi hates Broly
I don't really think Broly needs card draw speed since his gauge already gives him cards
But the ki issue I do see
Something they could've gave him wherehe gets maybe 10 of not more ki every he does an action such as using a card, vanishing and more
What is the ost at the beginning ?
Lr Int Legendary Super Saiyan Broly Intro OST from Dokkan.
@rubysmasherwaitwhat6456 Oh okay thanks man!
Everyone hating on him for valid reasons, and then he goes and one shots beast gohan 😮😂😭
We just need the controled ssj Z broly now and we got mostly all the things we can get from Z broly
32:16 He can’t even come up with slander anymore, he’s just claiming he “needs modern things.”
0 cost down is really good 😅
How does bro say my ki is overflowing but does in fact no overflow
He would be crazu with his plat right now.
Surely this unit can use his gauge and not die because of a certain green god ki fusion
League of Losers: Goresh
That’s not very nice pal 😡
This is slander my good sir.
At least his LF is good 😂
The best animated characters like LF broly and new LF Goku Black always have some kind of an issue in their kit 😢
Goresh can you make a video on potential zenkai's for 2025?
Day 3 of asking to bring back the underdogs series
This unit has had the biggest switchup I've ever seen IN MY LIFE (Mr Beast is a close second tho.) He went from being feared and glazed to kingdom come to now being rendered utter garbage.
I think he just need some more ki for offensive, but he need a lot for defensive.
Been wanting this broly sadly I didn’t get him
18:27 what? that was a 50 cost strike card..
Goresh so biased against broly its hilarious. he definitely could’ve been better but he serves his purpose as a glass cannon pretty well, with zenkais he can go neutral & one shot most characters in the game once he’s built up.
No this is not bias. As someone who hit god rank after this broly's banner left, you didn't see him at ALL, and for good reason. This characters only saving grace is his lock-in. And even then its a worse version of Ultra UI. His above average damage is completely useless considering one small combo is all it takes for him to fall like a deck of cards. Hell, he can't even handle modern combo disrupt anymore to do the damage build-up he needs.
@@CultureKuma Seriously, I was running Evil Buu when he came out and he would stop every single Broly after 2 cards, a hyper-offensive unit that can't handle disrupts is useless
@@CultureKuma no he is not braindead like the characters that a god rank player might care about, He is still very effective if you play around all the nonsense. I play for FUN & I clap meta teams consistently with Pan, Broly & random ultra of choice.
With broly you have to be smart and make quick decisions that could make or break the game, but that risk gives you a very large reward often killing a unit if you planned it out. To me that’s exciting and fun.
If he’s “useless” to you it’s because you don’t know how to use him. He literally killed the newest ultra in basically one card in this video so there’s clearly use for him.
@@Giogio_17 In that perspective, that makes total sense. He's definitely not a bad unit by any means, and his raw blue card when he's built up is evaporating half of the top 10 easy. It's just when you play competitive, consistency is everything, and he's more of a "I own this match" or "I'm useless this match" kinda character.
Here before he post the legendary goku black
Do we think Yel Goku black is gonna be in this series?
yeah, that's like asking "is the sky blue?"
Of course. Im willing to bet that Yel black is going to be the LAST one to come out seeing as how Goresh is EXTRA pissed at blacks lackluster kit lmao
Broly Z in Dokkan Badass
Broly Z in DB Legends more like Yamcha
The real Super sayjin Broly
broly isn’t even bad, he’s just too simple
now, make a video about Lf Nappa, Lf Fusing Gogeta and Lf GT kid Goku (btw, these 3 chars are good, comparable to previous League of Losers units, but still because of specific problems, they are far worse comparable to other 2024 Lfs) and then do a proud match video with all 6 members of the League
He works for me on this yellow meta . 🤷🏻♂️
If only this guy had more on the defensive side like LF Super 17
Oh boy varebarra shouldn’t see this…
We need a dragon ball super movie Ultra Broly it’s also over due
Waiting for YEL Saiyan Saga Goku. Hopefully tomorrow
Awww damn i knew it was coming 😢😭
I really don't get all the hate for red broly , the only issue I m seeing in his kit is the super high ki cost of it's cards
He has explosive damage , no switching, rechargeable gauge , color nullification, vanish restoration
This unit in the hand of a good player is smthg else
Nappa and Vegeta next
Next should be turles crusher corp in LOL i guess.