This is amazing. Your family in South Africa goes back 330 years. Yet your mannerisms are so like my father! His name was Meindert de Boer and he immigrated to New Zealand from Friesland in Northern Holland. Despite the centuries apart your way has been retained. I cannot help being reminded of him when I watch this
Your English was excellent and you were very clear and articulate. That's amazing that you have photos of so many of your ancestors. Well done for keeping them, I hope your descendants treasure them. I am amazed at how long your family have been living in South Africa, you are truly African. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thank you so much, Matthys Johannes, I found this very interesting. Your English is good and easy to understand. And i appreciate you sharing this with us all. Thank you again, Laraine.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
"Nog vele ander goed" Soos onderdrukkers, rassiste, grond diewe, mense regte skenders, verkragters, meerderwaardigheids kompleks. Moet ek nog byvoeg, jou eenogige aap.
As a colored guy from cape town. Currently living in limpopo. Honestly this is amazing. I wish i could pull up heritage like this for my family ... damn... 11 generations oom hulle is regtig geseen ❤❤
😂 wel die enigste rede waarom ek 11 generasies kon he is omdat my pa en oupa en grootjie so sentimenteel was en alles neergeskryf en gebere het. As dit nie so was nie het ek dit ook nie gehad nie. Net n vragie: Hoe hou jy uit in Limpopo???? Veralng jy nie die Kaap nie? 🙂
Thank you, it is interesting! Im interested in the dates when Xhosa arrived at 80 years after your grandfather!! The world needs to hear more about that, they have no clue what happened in SA. Deel asb die waarheid met die wêreld. Dankie vir u moeite, dit word waardeer. Groete!
That is why its a total lie when black people say white settlers stole their land, Even when van Riebeeck landed in 1652 no black people lived in the Cape, was only Xio San and Hottentots,
Get out of denial. Stop your spin. Black people were here long before Jan Van Riebeck landed. Get real. Africa is for African people and white people cannot lay claim. Terra nullius indeed. Utter tosh. G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
@redmatters9318 This man has documentary proof for what he says. You should the disprove him by submitting verified documentary proof, instead of just blurting out the old misleading misinformation that is currently being pushed down everybody's throats. In Afrikaans - jy praat k*k
Your great great great grandfather looks like a man that you do not want him to find you trespassing on his land, your family photos have been kept in excellent condition, good work.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Very interesting indeed. Thank you for sharing this. It would be interesting to know how long some of our political leaders ancestors have resided in SA compared to for example yours.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
This lesson of RSA boer history should be a compulsory subject in all schools. So many misconceptions and myths will be dispelled and the truth about the land being stolen is false. Thank you for such an informative and interesting lecture about your family tree and DNA.
Who wrote the history of south Africa. Who was there in the land when your family arrived there. Was anyone displaced to make room for your family as it was in Zimbabwe. They forced blacks yo desert area, The TTLs
It's however a bioinformatics exercise which had limitations. E.g. How would do they know which DNA-markers are to be attributed to which ethnicity. It's based on probabilities of course and makes assumptions. It is not based on certainties.
Yes ,South African history they are trying to phase out ,but ships logbooks don't lie , they said that aborigines were tan to brown people ,that make them Khoisan ,nothing was mentioned about black people and these people were friendly towards the people that stepped on their shores ,blacks were brought here through way of different slave ships slaves from different African countries,that's why only South Africa had 10 different tribes ,and not other African countries. When slavery was abolished they were set free ,and that is how their journey began ,different tribes means tribal wars that was the 1700's ,ours started in 1752 when Jan Van Riebeeck build a trading station where ships could stop to get refreshments on their way to the silk and spice countries. You see we were already here when the black people arrived here no one stole land .
@@tokkieandrews9988 Bear in mind that the Hottentots were Nomadic people and the Bushmen were hunters and gatherers. That doesn't exactly yield high food production required to sustain larger populations. There were *some* people at *some* places in the Cape, but that's it. Landownership was unknown and essentially ad usum principles were applied. But try to get a sober approach to the pre-history of the RSA, you are gonna struggle. Post-Modernism destroys historiography like anything else. No appreciation of sources, no logic, no weighted probability. It's a shame and a sign that cultural production has ceased its value over time. JvR had the trading station build in 1652.
@@tokkieandrews9988 you were not here african blacks where here and will forever be here , The delusion is on another level 😮 Africa is for black people now you can’t lie about that how the hell would Europeans be in Africa before Africans And you think if you’re people were here before the First Nations/ Aboriginals do you honestly think with your racist attitude and inhuman behaviour would let black people here ? No I don’t think so
As a South African born and bred now living in the UK I found this fascinating. I had the idea that my heritage came from French Belgium and Dutch Hugeonots But there's so much more richness in our history.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Ahora en español!!!! es necesario que los hispano hablantes sepan el origen de Sudafrica ya que lamentablemente las organizaciones mundiales han prohibido que la verdad llegue a las escuelas y libros dejando solo un verso y mentira en la historia. El Sr Swart es historiador no tan solo agricultor, motivos de sobra para prestar atencion y aprender. Mis respetos y agradecimiento!
I am Indian 3rd generation South African, with Persian ancestry and My great grandfather was Dutch... surname Holland. Thanks Meneer for a great episode.
At the 11 : 18 we see mention of English lineage, notwithstanding Roman, Goth or Norman influence, we must remember that many 'Saxons' are originally from Sachsen-Anhalt / Lower Saxony (or Niedersachsen).
Not surprising from. A scumbag who believes lies and live of others ! You will reap what you sow ! What you think is bad for you now , it will be like nothing when the true black power prevails! Ask France
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
Actually the San hunter gatherers was the first people. When the Khoi arrived with there flocks of sheep they where in conflict with the San, when the Bantu arrived in Natal around 1600 there where conflict between all three groups. In 1647 with the first Europeans settlement in Cape Town (Nieuw Haarlems shipwreck) the conflict also with the San. The San and Khoi where squeezed between Bantu expantion from the east and European Trekboers from the west. Today there are no San nor Khoi left in the South. Only mixed decendats as proofed by DNA. The Nama is the closest Khoi group to the South.
Khoi-Khoi people are basically a mix between a Cushitic group and San. The Cushitic people who migrated Southwards were closest to the Amhara people of Ethiopia...
God says the Koi & San both came from the 'Pigmee' who are snake people. Cmndr Loohan says they are negative energy beings, nasty black magicians, who use their children for sex...all the snake people actually do that, except the 'Pigmee'
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Interessant. No big surprises. At times I thought that the persistance of the Boers implied that they were from a small group. For instance in Zeeland or on Urk I think there are large families with common traits often as a result of centuries of battling with water , fishing and so on A very hard life, many children lost. But from your description de Boers are much like anyone from NW Europe. So my superficial image was wrong ... But thank you. Luck plays a big role in life. 1. Are you healthy? 2. Did you have loving parents? 3. Were you born in a stable country? 4. Are you reasonably intelligent? 5. Did you get sufficient education? It also helps to be good looking..but clearly mostly not all criteria are fulfilled But we humans struggled and make the best if it, certainly by helping one and another.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Bhahaa!! 😂 Dat is kicke hé!! Dit is allemaal wel geweldig om te lezen hoor!! Wat een taal hè!!? Ik heb ook echt het idee dat jullie dit net zo goed kunnen lezen. Groetjes uit Holland! 👋🙋🏼♂️😃
Ons verstaan Nederlands heel goed. Met my besoeke aan Nederland het ek nooit Engels gepraat nie, maar slegs Afrikaans en die kommunikasie was heel goed gewees.
Op skool het bykans alle Afrikaans sprekende kinders ten minste 2 voorgeskrewe Nederlandse leesboeke gehad...so ,om Nederlands te kan lees en verstaan is vir my maklik,selfs na baie jare op die ouderdom van 70. Ek herinner my nou daaraan dat een van die boeke se titel was "Bellen Blasen". Gaat je wel..😄
Very interesting. I am an Afrikaans speaking Du Toit, my forefathers came in with the French Huguenots (1688). My mother was a Vermaak girl Dutch/Hollands and she had some Irish blood too, Eager that came in 1820 with some British settlers.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Thank you for sharing your heritage with us. You must be very proud of the six generations who forged a new community in a very far away place. They seem like very strong upstanding people. Now my one question is that of course your lineage is “Pure” European, as I’m sure they were strong, social strictures in place regarding marriage and procreation, etc. and yet we know that many illegitimate children are born, often from mothers of a different race, but they’re never acknowledged as the father’s child, would not get his last name, etc. as he is “illegitimate.” So I’m assuming there are a fair number of mulatto children who over the generations, became lighter skinned, or darker skinned, and that you represent a group of people who did not mix, but there were many who did, or who did, but never took responsibility for the child. Would this be correct?
You are completely right, the Cape coloured people absorbed the the cases you mentioned. Also the left over of the Khoi people after the Small pocks epedemic was assimilated in the Cape Coloured comunity. The DNA of the Cape Coloured consist mainly out of different groups like Khoi, European, Bantu, Indian and Malasian. the last group was former slaves. In the Cape there where never that amount of slaves like in the "New world" because it was a bit of wine farming but the rest was sheep, horse and cattle farming for which you do not need much labour. A big part of slaves from India and Malaisia was people that was convicted into slavery by Dutch colonial authority for certain crimes or behavior. The European part of the Cape Coloured mainly originated from seafearing countries. Many ships stopped over at the Cape for rest and repairs on the way to the East. The DNA of the Cape coloured show this as well as their European decent mailnly from Britian and a lesser part from the Netherlands. But French and German origin almost none...( The Afrikaner people had by 1800 more German blood than Dutch, followed by French.) Here are DNA results from Cape Coloured person : 24.92 % Westren European , 24,91 Southern Asia, 12.83% South East Asia, 8,13% Khoisan, 10.31% Bantu, 2,7% Arabia, 2,34% Middle Eastern. DNA researh on this group results on paternal side looks like this for Cape Coloured: Haplo group E (Africa) 27%, Haplo group R (Europe) 23% , Haplo Group FG (Arabia/Iran) 13% . Haplo group O (East Asian) 13% , Haplo group J (North African) 6%, Haplo Groups T and H (South Asia, India and Pakistan) 8% , Haplo Group A and B (Khoisan) 6% . Hope it give a better understanding..
This is actually part of SA history that gets glanced over a lot. @kykso pretty much covered the Cape Coloured grouping but before VoC started using the Cape as sort of Malay penal colony you had the first free burghers starting what would become the first of the mixed race groupings. These were young men out of the poor communities out of Europe whose 10 year contracts with the VoC ran out and did not want to go back to Europe or sign up again with the VoC. So they started the first independent farms around the Cape Colony which in those days was only the size what is now central Cape Town. This was before the immigration of families to the Cape Colony so they took wives from local Khoi tribes or took slave woman as common law wives and raise the children as their legitimate children and from them you various unique mixed race groupings who were the first to move out of the Cape because they disliked the VoC and their policies 100 years before the Voortrekkers started the Great Trek alater collectively became known as Trekboers. Later on a lot of the mixed groupings would unite as the Basters later known as the Griqau and establish their own independent states between the then British Cape Colony and Boer State.
A crucial fact, they came to SA worked, purchased land, began to farm to help themselves and feed others! There was no stealing! Ons Boere, ek is trots!
"Trekboers have already reached the banks of the Fish River in the Eastern Cape by the end of 1770. On the other side, they found the Xhosa`s that moved southwestwards. It was the first time after 118 years in Southern Africa that white and black met each other. The Trekboers (farmers) and the Xhosa are both stopped in their movements. The trek farmers from moving east and the Xhosa from moving west. The Fish River becomes the natural boundary between the two groups. In November 1779, the Xhosa crossed the Fish River, into the Cape Colony. Chief Rarabe crossed the Colony border at Bruintjieshoogte (today in the Pearston district) and began to steal cattle and livestock, burning farmhouses and murdering farmers. These invasions occurred in both Swellendam and Stellenbosch districts. (The Graaff Reinet district was founded in 1786 only.) Two commandos assembled in the summer of 1779-1780. The one commando of Stellenbosch (Bruintjeshoogte) under Joshua Joubert, the other Swellendam (West of the Bushman`s River) under Peter Hendrik Ferreire. The first border war began with the Xhosa. Although many cattle could be gained back, the commandos could not drive back all Xhosa from where they came from. On October 24, 1780, Adriaan van Jaarsveld took over the commando`s command of both the two commandos as Field commander. The tribesmen who crossed the river were instructed to return to which only one chieftain Langa moved back. Van Jaarsveld then took on the rest in battle. The ox wagons of the commando was put in a circle and the openings closed with thorn branches. Stock and draft animals are protected only by handful of men inside this laager, while Van Jaarsveld and the rest attack the Xhosa. It was the first time that a Laager was drawn in the history of the Afrikaner. In the campaign that lasted from May 23, 1781 to July 19, the Xhosa was crushed and driven back over the Fish River. 5300 cattle were taken back and the commando`s dissolved "
I am a descendent of Kratoa , Khoi khoi strandloper. The dutch traded with the Khoi Khoi to obtain land. Kratoa married Pieter van Meerhof and many Afrikaaners cary her bloodlines.
I was send over the link by an ZA friend since history interests me. None of that in school about these things. Very interesting. If you speak English you have the same pronounciation that most Flemish or Dutch people have who have not been influenced by US tv shows or movies. I am from Belgium and there are a lot of 'Afrikaanse woorde' that are being used that I know from certain dialects here or that I learned from my grandparents. You even use sayings in Afrikaans that are old Flemish but are still being used. Actually here the dialect changes every like 30km so I hear things or sayings that I know come from the coastal areas or some cities. You are very lucky to have a stamboom that is complete and even have these old pictures. I hope you have digitalized them for future generations. If you would be here in this country your looks and way of talking would fit right in. You could be my neighbor. As for the DNA from Southern Europe you have to dive deeper in the history of Europe. There has been a lot of travel and movement in the last 2000 years. The Romans, Germans and French were here in the Flanders over a couple of hunderds of years. Also the last name is not something that obvious. If you did this RUclips in Afrikaans I would have no issue understanding it. Afrikaans is that close to Flemish or Dutch after you have heard it for a while and you get used to different way some words are used. The tenses is something that might have changed in those 300 some years. I've never looked that one up. All in all top video, enjoyed it a lot!
Vlaams is naby aan Afrikaans. Flemish is easier to understand than Dutch, but I never spoke English in the Netherlands when I visit. I get along very well with Afrikaans there and comunication was not that difficult.
Beautifully done and masterfully executed! I'm inspired by you to consider my own such journey into the past. I am part of the more modern day 'diaspora' having left SA for New Zealand in 1999, surnames Loggenberg, Venter (paternal) and Mienie, (Unkown) maternal.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
My 2c: I reckon my heritage in this country is mostly Afrikaner Boer as is my half-brother's. His DNA is 98% European (Barnard/Slabber) while I am only 89%(Conradie/Slabber). We both have documented slave ancestry, mainly Asian (at least 2 well-known manumitted slaves). Most of our documented European and Asian ancestors have also been here since Jan van Riebeeck's time. So we have been here for a while. But my point is that not all Boers' DNA is going to look like yours. And that is OK.
Hi im also afrikaans I want to share this with you .I did my DNA when I lived in america. But my DNA stopped in Germany. So I was interested in where was my DNA before the 1500 and 1600 .so I went to an older DNA review and I discovered a lot of Jewish ancestors. So I looked even more deeper .and I tested to an older database. And it come out to my oldest ancestors are from isreal.
@@juditkoncz1020 is that so? Azami Bishara ( a terrorist supporter and a spy against Israel would say there is no Palestine: ruclips.net/video/P3n5-yG-6dU/видео.htmlsi=5TeavBwq5Vnq09uL And he is not alone on "their" side. But you probably don't care cause the ancestors told you different.
Are you also a native Afrikaans speaker? I am from The Netherlands and your accent even sounds specifically like person from Rotterdam city talking english, very interesting how close it sounds to that.
Hi Kykso. Interesting to hear your history story. I even learned something from it. Never knew that the European Boer settlers were there even before the indigenous tribes (or was it only the one tribe you mentioned that came 80 years after the Boers?). The DNA results are always interesting for everyone I think. I always thought to be real 'Hollands' with some German / French blood. I'm from Holland descendants proven since 1650. But the DNA test results also showed 26% English, 14% Scandinavian and even 1% Middle East/Arabian. Same as in your story no clue how that came in my pedigree. By the way, your English was very good to understand. 👍 Baie groeten uit Nederland en blyf interessante vlogs maak. Hans.
Your narrative in English was flawless. South Africa is much like any other new world country being a melting pot of numerous nationalities to form a new nationality. I arrived in South Africa in the late 60’s as a baby from England but left in 2002 due to increasing tension and conflict. Perhaps if things had been different, I would have become a forefather of future South Africans.
That tension has only continued. Just yesterday our dog was poisoned so now we're perparing ourselves since they'll probably try and break in this long weekend
Wait, who is saying the white afrikaaners from South Africa are mixed. They more European than the Europeans, because they were not mixing here in Africa. Well the ones that was is now coloureds lol.
I am wondering what impact ZyCov-D and Plasmids will have on the Mitochondrial DNA that we have all inherited? I also have concerns what impact this BioNTech Serum will have on our Patrineal lineage? I am strongly against Genetic Editing.
Smit is a Dutch name from origin. Coetzee could either be French (Gaucher) or South Netherlands (Cudsee) Kellerman is German (Kellermann) Vorster is Dutch in origin (dukedom Brabant), and was actually based up on a job between 500 AD up to 1500 AD. This was basically a judicial officer. Kühn is German in origin Jacobs is Dutch in origin. Funny to hear you actually speak it in the Dutch way as well, so South Afrikaans still kept that I see. Botha is a very interesting name actually, I think I can't do this justice on my own so i'll use the wikipedia entry if you don't mind (in Dutch): "Botha of Both of Bode is een achternaam die voorkomt in het Nederlands taalgebied, en afkomstig is uit de regio Friesland en Noord-Duitsland. De naam is afkomstig van het Germaans Butha en Proto-Indo-Europees duta, dat "boodschapper" betekent." South African Wiki says this: "Botha is 'n familienaam wat algemeen onder Afrikaners in Suid-Afrika en in die Nederlandse taalgebied voorkom. Die van kom oorspronklik van die omgewings van Friesland en Noord-Duitsland. Dit is afgelei van die Germaanse Butha en Proto-Indo-Europese duta, wat "boodskapper" beteken." What this means, Botha (or variations of it) is a VERY old name and has a lot of history to it. Retief name might be French in origin, but I'm not sure about that. Malan is from Farao islands, so it has a Danish background as well as English. Boshoff is Dutch and (north-west) German in origin, but most of this family actually lives today in South Africa. Klerk is Dutch in origin van der Merwe is Dutch in origin. If you see a name with things like "de" "van der" and such in front of it, you can pretty much always trace it back to the Netherlands.
@@kyksoHow stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
There are a few fundamental limitations with current DNA tests that should be kept in mind. Your full DNA is not sequenced unless you pay specifically for it, and thus certain markers (partial sequences) are used. This means that entire hereditary relations can be missed (for example, you could miss a forefather from a different continent). However, even if you sequence your full DNA, then there is the much more important limitation of reference human genomes. If you are 80% Irish, it is because the people (of the small fraction globally) whose DNA had been sequenced previously, had claimed to be ethnically Irish. Thus you are compared to a subjective reference. I am saying this as an Afrikaner with 1 or 2% South Asian ancestry and the rest mostly British/Northern European, but even that is not really reliable. There is yet another problem, even if you narrow down reference genomes, which is that when you are associated with where on earth is also partially subjective-we are almost certain to have all lived in Africa around 50 thousand years ago. Not to mention Neanderthal or Denisovan genes that we know for a fact are part of our genomes. Then there are the examples of identical twins who both have used these "consumer" tests and gotten significantly different results.
Totally agree. Ek het `n Hollandse buurman gehad wat gese het:' Roei met die spane wat jy het!" Currently we have this tools and it just give some indication at least.
I had my DNA test and found that i am mostly English but, I have the following. Balkan on my grandmothers(my moms mom) didnt know about it. Scottish from my dads side knew about that the surprise was Swedish we which is from grandmother/grandfather/great uncle/aunty but, have no idea about that one. I also have worldwide over 9000 cousins that relate to me so yes we could well all be related somewhere alkng the line.
All very interesting... Unfortunately the further we go back into DNA history the more "wishy-washy" it becomes for our limited technology to read our past lineage from the DNA. But, if we could go all the way back to the beginning, we would realize that we are in fact ALL brothers in sisters, no matter our Race, Culture, Traditions or Heritage! Thank you for sharing.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Many protestants who were protesting against the darkness and error of catholicism and the terrible persecution (most protestants don't protest anymore! And have carried on with erroneous beliefs that are not scriptural) fled Europe in their hundreds and thousands to South Africa to live in relative peace and safety. That is why many south Africa Africans do have European blood in them... Genetically... Thank you I found your talk very sincere.
That's nonsense, 1652 with Jan van Riebeek dates colonialism! Whites were here centuries before that and it didn't begin in Cape Town. It's started in Kenya German Greeks which are the Boers have been here even longer than the formations of Europe! Europe itself comes from the Greeks and Germans and there's vast literature on this. It's only western europe (Latin Europe & Dutch) that sells the narrative that it started in 1652. Cleopatra was a Greek!
7 generaciones from great grandparents time I wonder if the little ones will know who were there ansesters if there’s no one to tell?nice to know the first settlers had such a peacefull life as farmers
I had this DNA analysis done. I always thought I was English ( South African) because all four grandparents came from the British Isles. Turns out no, I'm mid European, North European, Scots, Irish and Welsh! English not mentioned. Being South African, I was surprised to find I'm rather happy about this😊
all white people who moved to South Africa from 1600 and later forefathers come from Europe, i am of German and British blood on my father's side, mother's side is French and British, well When one says it's British it could be Welsh Irish Scottish,
@@richardwebb9532 yes i have read about that, well here on ytube is a video about how strong the German linage is in the British royal house of today, Before William or up to William theres apparently more german blood in the britsh royal house than british blood if i remeber correctly ,
My ancestors arrived at the Cape in 1658 leaving the Netherlands in 1657. Then again from France in 1689. And then from Gemany in 1691. My mother's family.
I think it runs in the family the interest in family history. My dad gave me boxes ful of notes and pictures and documents fro our arnsesters. By grandfather allready had them and his father. So each generations stories was colected. I want to make a video on the stories and hapenings through the generations. So much to tell but still so much research to do!!! But inbetween I have to farm as well!!! We are planting about 1500 ha and farm with 2 000 sheep and also we have a dairy and beef cows... the time... i wish i have more time to do resurge...
Hi, well you could use different dna companies to do it. Costs around R3000 per test. If you google DNA tests for South Africa you will find different companies to choose from. I hope it help. Will be nice if you do it and share your results. Great weekend for you.
Dankie vir die video. Ek het verwag dat jy dalk 'n klein persentasie Suid Indies of Maleis sou gehad het soos ek (my oupa groetjie is op St Helena gebore).
I found the St Helena part of your family history interesting. My ancestry on my fathers side also comes from there. The ancestors was Cpt Gewan Hamilton who was Napoleons custodian whilst he was a prisoner there. He was the Captain of Hms Havana, the war ship tasked with securing the island. He and Napoleon didn't enjoy each other very much needless to say. It is probable that your ancestor personaly knew mine. Best regards to you and your family.
My family came out from Germany just before 1700s. They were two Augustyn brothers, Jan Abraham Augustyn en Gert Matthys Augustyn. Their family was from polish descent before that. They settled in the Cape area. Their home language became Afrikaans eventually. The two brothers were protestants fleeing the catholic persecution.
Hi Thys! So interessant! Dankie vir die deel. Ons volkie het darem 'n ryk herkoms en geskiedenis. Theron (Jacques Theron, Franse Hugenoot van Montpellier - stamvader aan my Ma se kant) en Van der Merwe (aan my Pa se kant) my afkoms. Dan is daar ook Heydenrych, Labushagne, Ben, Potgieter verder in die bloedlyn. Mal oor heraldiek. So interessant.
janine, weet jy dalk van die potgieter gedenksteen buite ceres? dit is opgerig vir vier potgieter broers wat daar vermoor is, in die 1800s dink ek. ek het dit per ongeluk gevind in 1976, maar n paar jaar gelede kon ek dit nie weer kry nie.
I have spanish , Portugese , French , mostly with some russian , Baltic Ashkenazi Jewish and balkan in my dna . The Anatolia (Turkey) part of dna shocked me . Explains why i look like an African but the way i behave is very unafrican
Very interesting. Thank you. We coloureds are also such a mixture. My sons are Swiss "coloureds" & proud to call themselves BRUIN OUS. Their Swiss Family Tree goes back to 1306. We are working on a second South African one. The other one "disappeared."😁
My great grandpa was English from Bexley Heath. He & his younger brother to my shame came during the Boer War. They legally married two daughters of the Induna in Natal. Had gigantic estates in Richmond which their 10 descendants stupidly sold. Those white families who bought them then, still own them. My one Grand Uncle took me to meet them before I left for further studies in Switzerland in 1974.
Firstly, greetings and Kia ora from New Zealand. I am of Polynesian/Pacific Island and English decent, but grew up in New Zealand; being a huge Rugby fan, I have been long interested in the strong, but friendly rivalry with South Africa, and of course their political and social landscape interests me. I was about 8 years old when the All Blacks toured South Africa in 1976, I also remember the 1981, Springbok tour of New Zealand, and the subsequent protests, which divided the country. It is only in recent years, that I discovered the somewhat complex and fascinating history of colonisation in South Africa. We had citizens of our very young country fight in the Boer Wars. Truth be told, they probably didn't know what they fighting for, and why they were even fighting. Thanks for sharing your story, and, I hope, God willing, to visit South Africa soon.
Thanks, dankie... ek is 'n Vorster so dit was lekker om my nommers te sien verby gaan! I'm wondering, have you any Ferreira numbers? Thanks again for showing all this detail!
I am from the island Kingdom of Tonga in the South Pacific region. Thank you very much Kykso for sharing your DNA. God bless you and your family.
I have been to Tonga beautiful place❤️
@@mariagrobler837 And some formidable rugby players, South Africa has met them!
Fefe Hake, I have been to Tonga Tapu, and Vava'u, my father is from Niue, but live in Aotearoa/New Zealand
This is amazing. Your family in South Africa goes back 330 years. Yet your mannerisms are so like my father! His name was Meindert de Boer and he immigrated to New Zealand from Friesland in Northern Holland. Despite the centuries apart your way has been retained. I cannot help being reminded of him when I watch this
GREAT CULTURES ARE FOR EVER
My forebears came from Boazum
Beautiful comment. (I am also a South African Afrikaner)
@@pietdutoit3517 TODAY S AFRICA HAS ACHIEVED WAR HUNGER SLAVERY DISEASE AND FASCISM AFTER WE LEFT. ALL AFRICA TOO
@@pietdutoit3517 NO WATER, ELECTRICITY, AMBULANCE, FIRE BRIGADES...IN ALL MAJOR CITIES.
THEY CAN'T BLAME WHITE MAN
Your English was excellent and you were very clear and articulate. That's amazing that you have photos of so many of your ancestors. Well done for keeping them, I hope your descendants treasure them. I am amazed at how long your family have been living in South Africa, you are truly African. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thankyou very much! 😊
No they're not African
@@maureenjackson2041 Of course they are, have you not watched the video ?
@@kykso
Hi
Please advise on which company you used for the DNA analysis and the costs involved.
Regards
Baie dankie vir al die inligting, bly om te sê my navorsing val toe ook in met joune selfde voorgeslagte. Shalom van Kimberley
Thank you so much, Matthys Johannes, I found this very interesting. Your English is good and easy to understand. And i appreciate you sharing this with us all. Thank you again, Laraine.
Dankie dat jy gedeel het. Altyd interessant as mens in voorgeslagte, geskiedenis en genetika belangstel
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Mooi om te zien! Dank je wel, voor je film!!
Gr uit Gelderland(Nederland)
En veel geluk voor je familie
Dankie wel!!! Groete vanaf die Suidste punt van Afrika!
baie dankie.....mooibly!!!!
Fantastic information, many thanks for sharing 👍
Baie insiggewend! Trots op my voorouers mense met sterk karakters en nog vele ander goed ook.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
"Nog vele ander goed" Soos onderdrukkers, rassiste, grond diewe, mense regte skenders, verkragters, meerderwaardigheids kompleks. Moet ek nog byvoeg, jou eenogige aap.
As a colored guy from cape town. Currently living in limpopo. Honestly this is amazing. I wish i could pull up heritage like this for my family ... damn... 11 generations oom hulle is regtig geseen ❤❤
😂 wel die enigste rede waarom ek 11 generasies kon he is omdat my pa en oupa en grootjie so sentimenteel was en alles neergeskryf en gebere het. As dit nie so was nie het ek dit ook nie gehad nie. Net n vragie: Hoe hou jy uit in Limpopo???? Veralng jy nie die Kaap nie? 🙂
Dankie vir hierdie video. Dit het my oë ook bietjie oopgemaak en het my aangemoedig om self 'n toets te gaan doen.
Thank you, it is interesting! Im interested in the dates when Xhosa arrived at 80 years after your grandfather!! The world needs to hear more about that, they have no clue what happened in SA. Deel asb die waarheid met die wêreld. Dankie vir u moeite, dit word waardeer. Groete!
Everyone knows the truth, it's Africa that denies it
That is why its a total lie when black people say white settlers stole their land, Even when van Riebeeck landed in 1652 no black people lived in the Cape, was only Xio San and Hottentots,
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb Nonsense. The afrikaners were occupiers. Black people were there first no matter how you spin it. Tough luck for you. G'day 🇦🇺.
Get out of denial. Stop your spin. Black people were here long before Jan Van Riebeck landed. Get real. Africa is for African people and white people cannot lay claim. Terra nullius indeed. Utter tosh. G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
@redmatters9318 This man has documentary proof for what he says. You should the disprove him by submitting verified documentary proof, instead of just blurting out the old misleading misinformation that is currently being pushed down everybody's throats. In Afrikaans - jy praat k*k
Your great great great grandfather looks like a man that you do not want him to find you trespassing on his land, your family photos have been kept in excellent condition, good work.
I'm a Swiegers and chances are my DNA will very much reflect the same thing. Thanks for a very informative presentation
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Maternal DNA is more prominent. So you would need to look into your mother's mother surname too
Very interesting indeed. Thank you for sharing this. It would be interesting to know how long some of our political leaders ancestors have resided in SA compared to for example yours.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
This lesson of RSA boer history should be a compulsory subject in all schools. So many misconceptions and myths will be dispelled and the truth about the land being stolen is false.
Thank you for such an informative and interesting lecture about your family tree and DNA.
AFRICA ACHIEVED WAR HUNGER SLAVERY DISEASE AND FASCISM AFTER WHITE PEOPLE LEFT
Who wrote the history of South Africa?
Who wrote the history of south Africa. Who was there in the land when your family arrived there. Was anyone displaced to make room for your family as it was in Zimbabwe. They forced blacks yo desert area, The TTLs
@@catherinemukombachoto4005 LOSERS LOOK BACK. WINNERS WIN. XHOSA HAD NO ALPHABET. SO THE HISTORY WAS WRITTEN BY WHITE MAN. NOW YOU KNOW
@@catherinemukombachoto4005 SO NOW WHITE MAN IS GONE, WHY ARE YOU STILL MARCHING BACKWARDS
More people should do this. We discovered so many connections to the Afrikaner community that we didn't expect
NOT ENOUGH I SUPPOSE .
AFRICA ACHIEVED WAR HUNGER SLAVERY DISEASE AND FASCISM AFTER WHITE RACE LEFT.
It's however a bioinformatics exercise which had limitations. E.g. How would do they know which DNA-markers are to be attributed to which ethnicity. It's based on probabilities of course and makes assumptions. It is not based on certainties.
Yes ,South African history they are trying to phase out ,but ships logbooks don't lie , they said that aborigines were tan to brown people ,that make them Khoisan ,nothing was mentioned about black people and these people were friendly towards the people that stepped on their shores ,blacks were brought here through way of different slave ships slaves from different African countries,that's why only South Africa had 10 different tribes ,and not other African countries. When slavery was abolished they were set free ,and that is how their journey began ,different tribes means tribal wars that was the 1700's ,ours started in 1752 when Jan Van Riebeeck build a trading station where ships could stop to get refreshments on their way to the silk and spice countries. You see we were already here when the black people arrived here no one stole land .
@@tokkieandrews9988 Bear in mind that the Hottentots were Nomadic people and the Bushmen were hunters and gatherers. That doesn't exactly yield high food production required to sustain larger populations. There were *some* people at *some* places in the Cape, but that's it. Landownership was unknown and essentially ad usum principles were applied. But try to get a sober approach to the pre-history of the RSA, you are gonna struggle. Post-Modernism destroys historiography like anything else. No appreciation of sources, no logic, no weighted probability. It's a shame and a sign that cultural production has ceased its value over time. JvR had the trading station build in 1652.
@@tokkieandrews9988 you were not here african blacks where here and will forever be here , The delusion is on another level 😮
Africa is for black people now you can’t lie about that how the hell would Europeans be in Africa before Africans
And you think if you’re people were here before the First Nations/ Aboriginals do you honestly think with your racist attitude and inhuman behaviour would let black people here ? No I don’t think so
As a South African born and bred now living in the UK I found this fascinating. I had the idea that my heritage came from French Belgium and Dutch Hugeonots But there's so much more richness in our history.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Ditto.
Ahora en español!!!! es necesario que los hispano hablantes sepan el origen de Sudafrica ya que lamentablemente las organizaciones mundiales han prohibido que la verdad llegue a las escuelas y libros dejando solo un verso y mentira en la historia. El Sr Swart es historiador no tan solo agricultor, motivos de sobra para prestar atencion y aprender. Mis respetos y agradecimiento!
I am Indian 3rd generation South African, with Persian ancestry and My great grandfather was Dutch... surname Holland. Thanks Meneer for a great episode.
At the 11 : 18 we see mention of English lineage, notwithstanding Roman, Goth or Norman influence, we must remember that many 'Saxons' are originally from Sachsen-Anhalt / Lower Saxony (or Niedersachsen).
Baie baie trots, dankie vir hierdie video. Maak my hart baie bly. ❤
Not surprising from. A scumbag who believes lies and live of others ! You will reap what you sow ! What you think is bad for you now , it will be like nothing when the true black power prevails! Ask France
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
The Bantu stole the land, the Koisan were the first people here.
Actually the San hunter gatherers was the first people. When the Khoi arrived with there flocks of sheep they where in conflict with the San, when the Bantu arrived in Natal around 1600 there where conflict between all three groups. In 1647 with the first Europeans settlement in Cape Town (Nieuw Haarlems shipwreck) the conflict also with the San. The San and Khoi where squeezed between Bantu expantion from the east and European Trekboers from the west. Today there are no San nor Khoi left in the South. Only mixed decendats as proofed by DNA. The Nama is the closest Khoi group to the South.
Khoi-Khoi people are basically a mix between a Cushitic group and San. The Cushitic people who migrated Southwards were closest to the Amhara people of Ethiopia...
God says the Koi & San both came from the 'Pigmee' who are snake people. Cmndr Loohan says they are negative energy beings, nasty black magicians, who use their children for sex...all the snake people actually do that, except the 'Pigmee'
@@kyksokoisan is sun people its the same
@@kyksonot true....but we'll leave you like that
Thank you for sharing your story and DNA with us appreciated 🙏🏻
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Incredible! How did you find all of this information? I would love to trace my lineage too.
Interessant. No big surprises. At times I thought that the persistance of the Boers implied that they were from a small group. For instance in Zeeland or on Urk I think there are large families with common traits often as a result of centuries of battling with water , fishing and so on A very hard life, many children lost. But from your description de Boers are much like anyone from NW Europe. So my superficial image was wrong ... But thank you. Luck plays a big role in life. 1. Are you healthy? 2. Did you have loving parents? 3. Were you born in a stable country? 4. Are you reasonably intelligent? 5. Did you get sufficient education? It also helps to be good looking..but clearly mostly not all criteria are fulfilled But we humans struggled and make the best if it, certainly by helping one and another.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Bhahaa!! 😂
Dat is kicke hé!!
Dit is allemaal wel geweldig om te lezen hoor!! Wat een taal hè!!?
Ik heb ook echt het idee dat jullie dit net zo goed kunnen lezen.
Groetjes uit Holland!
👋🙋🏼♂️😃
Groete vanuit Brisbane.😊
@@nervotica7991 @sjoerdhartman9181 Groete van Perth!
Ons verstaan Nederlands heel goed. Met my besoeke aan Nederland het ek nooit Engels gepraat nie, maar slegs Afrikaans en die kommunikasie was heel goed gewees.
Op skool het bykans alle Afrikaans sprekende kinders ten minste 2 voorgeskrewe Nederlandse leesboeke gehad...so ,om Nederlands te kan lees en verstaan is vir my maklik,selfs na baie jare op die ouderdom van 70. Ek herinner my nou daaraan dat een van die boeke se titel was "Bellen Blasen". Gaat je wel..😄
Very interesting. I am an Afrikaans speaking Du Toit, my forefathers came in with the French Huguenots (1688). My mother was a Vermaak girl Dutch/Hollands and she had some Irish blood too, Eager that came in 1820 with some British settlers.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
I find the tracing of our families through DNA so interesting
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this.
Thank you for sharing your heritage with us. You must be very proud of the six generations who forged a new community in a very far away place. They seem like very strong upstanding people. Now my one question is that of course your lineage is “Pure” European, as I’m sure they were strong, social strictures in place regarding marriage and procreation, etc. and yet we know that many illegitimate children are born, often from mothers of a different race, but they’re never acknowledged as the father’s child, would not get his last name, etc. as he is “illegitimate.” So I’m assuming there are a fair number of mulatto children who over the generations, became lighter skinned, or darker skinned, and that you represent a group of people who did not mix, but there were many who did, or who did, but never took responsibility for the child. Would this be correct?
You are completely right, the Cape coloured people absorbed the the cases you mentioned. Also the left over of the Khoi people after the Small pocks epedemic was assimilated in the Cape Coloured comunity. The DNA of the Cape Coloured consist mainly out of different groups like Khoi, European, Bantu, Indian and Malasian. the last group was former slaves. In the Cape there where never that amount of slaves like in the "New world" because it was a bit of wine farming but the rest was sheep, horse and cattle farming for which you do not need much labour. A big part of slaves from India and Malaisia was people that was convicted into slavery by Dutch colonial authority for certain crimes or behavior. The European part of the Cape Coloured mainly originated from seafearing countries. Many ships stopped over at the Cape for rest and repairs on the way to the East. The DNA of the Cape coloured show this as well as their European decent mailnly from Britian and a lesser part from the Netherlands. But French and German origin almost none...( The Afrikaner people had by 1800 more German blood than Dutch, followed by French.) Here are DNA results from Cape Coloured person : 24.92 % Westren European , 24,91 Southern Asia, 12.83% South East Asia, 8,13% Khoisan, 10.31% Bantu, 2,7% Arabia, 2,34% Middle Eastern. DNA researh on this group results on paternal side looks like this for Cape Coloured: Haplo group E (Africa) 27%, Haplo group R (Europe) 23% , Haplo Group FG (Arabia/Iran) 13% . Haplo group O (East Asian) 13% , Haplo group J (North African) 6%, Haplo Groups T and H (South Asia, India and Pakistan) 8% , Haplo Group A and B (Khoisan) 6% . Hope it give a better understanding..
This is actually part of SA history that gets glanced over a lot. @kykso pretty much covered the Cape Coloured grouping but before VoC started using the Cape as sort of Malay penal colony you had the first free burghers starting what would become the first of the mixed race groupings.
These were young men out of the poor communities out of Europe whose 10 year contracts with the VoC ran out and did not want to go back to Europe or sign up again with the VoC. So they started the first independent farms around the Cape Colony which in those days was only the size what is now central Cape Town. This was before the immigration of families to the Cape Colony so they took wives from local Khoi tribes or took slave woman as common law wives and raise the children as their legitimate children and from them you various unique mixed race groupings who were the first to move out of the Cape because they disliked the VoC and their policies 100 years before the Voortrekkers started the Great Trek alater collectively became known as Trekboers. Later on a lot of the mixed groupings would unite as the Basters later known as the Griqau and establish their own independent states between the then British Cape Colony and Boer State.
@@kyksoin
They didn't keep their r3pe children . They grouped them together aka coloureds
We are all from Europe yet Europe rejected us.
It rejected you because you played a vital role in toppling a great kingdom in the South.
That's why you the claim an African identity but you will NEVER be African.
I was a Viljoen. 11th generation French Huguenot. My father grew up in Bredasdorp. Thnk you for this very informative piece. Charlene Colyn
A crucial fact, they came to SA worked, purchased land, began to farm to help themselves and feed others! There was no stealing! Ons Boere, ek is trots!
purchased from who?? and with what
And sure you found no one in this country huh! How rich .....?
Doofases and doofases all over
"Trekboers have already reached the banks of the Fish River in the Eastern Cape by the end of 1770. On the other side, they found the Xhosa`s that moved southwestwards. It was the first time after 118 years in Southern Africa that white and black met each other. The Trekboers (farmers) and the Xhosa are both stopped in their movements. The trek farmers from moving east and the Xhosa from moving west. The Fish River becomes the natural boundary between the two groups. In November 1779, the Xhosa crossed the Fish River, into the Cape Colony. Chief Rarabe crossed the Colony border at Bruintjieshoogte (today in the Pearston district) and began to steal cattle and livestock, burning farmhouses and murdering farmers. These invasions occurred in both Swellendam and Stellenbosch districts. (The Graaff Reinet district was founded in 1786 only.) Two commandos assembled in the summer of 1779-1780. The one commando of Stellenbosch (Bruintjeshoogte) under Joshua Joubert, the other Swellendam (West of the Bushman`s River) under Peter Hendrik Ferreire. The first border war began with the Xhosa. Although many cattle could be gained back, the commandos could not drive back all Xhosa from where they came from. On October 24, 1780, Adriaan van Jaarsveld took over the commando`s command of both the two commandos as Field commander. The tribesmen who crossed the river were instructed to return to which only one chieftain Langa moved back. Van Jaarsveld then took on the rest in battle. The ox wagons of the commando was put in a circle and the openings closed with thorn branches. Stock and draft animals are protected only by handful of men inside this laager, while Van Jaarsveld and the rest attack the Xhosa. It was the first time that a Laager was drawn in the history of the Afrikaner. In the campaign that lasted from May 23, 1781 to July 19, the Xhosa was crushed and driven back over the Fish River. 5300 cattle were taken back and the commando`s dissolved "
I am a descendent of Kratoa , Khoi khoi strandloper. The dutch traded with the Khoi Khoi to obtain land. Kratoa married Pieter van Meerhof and many Afrikaaners cary her bloodlines.
Thank you for such an interesting video.
I was send over the link by an ZA friend since history interests me. None of that in school about these things.
Very interesting. If you speak English you have the same pronounciation that most Flemish or Dutch people have who have not been influenced by US tv shows or movies. I am from Belgium and there are a lot of 'Afrikaanse woorde' that are being used that I know from certain dialects here or that I learned from my grandparents. You even use sayings in Afrikaans that are old Flemish but are still being used. Actually here the dialect changes every like 30km so I hear things or sayings that I know come from the coastal areas or some cities.
You are very lucky to have a stamboom that is complete and even have these old pictures. I hope you have digitalized them for future generations. If you would be here in this country your looks and way of talking would fit right in. You could be my neighbor.
As for the DNA from Southern Europe you have to dive deeper in the history of Europe. There has been a lot of travel and movement in the last 2000 years. The Romans, Germans and French were here in the Flanders over a couple of hunderds of years. Also the last name is not something that obvious.
If you did this RUclips in Afrikaans I would have no issue understanding it. Afrikaans is that close to Flemish or Dutch after you have heard it for a while and you get used to different way some words are used. The tenses is something that might have changed in those 300 some years. I've never looked that one up.
All in all top video, enjoyed it a lot!
Vlaams is naby aan Afrikaans. Flemish is easier to understand than Dutch, but I never spoke English in the Netherlands when I visit. I get along very well with Afrikaans there and comunication was not that difficult.
Thank you. A good history lesson and eye opener to us all here in the Cape. Mooi. Baie dankie. Tanya
Our history is there to learn from not to hold it against each other.
Beautifully done and masterfully executed! I'm inspired by you to consider my own such journey into the past. I am part of the more modern day 'diaspora' having left SA for New Zealand in 1999, surnames Loggenberg, Venter (paternal) and Mienie, (Unkown) maternal.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Dit is amazing 🤩 Dankie day jy so deel!
My 2c: I reckon my heritage in this country is mostly Afrikaner Boer as is my half-brother's. His DNA is 98% European (Barnard/Slabber) while I am only 89%(Conradie/Slabber). We both have documented slave ancestry, mainly Asian (at least 2 well-known manumitted slaves). Most of our documented European and Asian ancestors have also been here since Jan van Riebeeck's time. So we have been here for a while. But my point is that not all Boers' DNA is going to look like yours. And that is OK.
A fascinating account, well and positively articulated. ******* 7, for it.
Hi im also afrikaans I want to share this with you .I did my DNA when I lived in america. But my DNA stopped in Germany. So I was interested in where was my DNA before the 1500 and 1600 .so I went to an older DNA review and I discovered a lot of Jewish ancestors. So I looked even more deeper .and I tested to an older database. And it come out to my oldest ancestors are from isreal.
Palestine. (Israel dates from 1948)
Many Afrikaans people have strong links to Lithuanian jews
@@juditkoncz1020it's still Israel 😂
@@juditkoncz1020nonsense. Israel is an ancient land and records of it and its people the Israelites go way back before the Arabs moved in.
@@juditkoncz1020 is that so? Azami Bishara ( a terrorist supporter and a spy against Israel would say there is no Palestine:
ruclips.net/video/P3n5-yG-6dU/видео.htmlsi=5TeavBwq5Vnq09uL
And he is not alone on "their" side.
But you probably don't care cause the ancestors told you different.
Thank you for a fascinating video. I am from the Muller, Botha, Baxter line, and I am busy putting my TREE in place at present. Jeff
Are you also a native Afrikaans speaker? I am from The Netherlands and your accent even sounds specifically like person from Rotterdam city talking english, very interesting how close it sounds to that.
Yes I am Afrikaans speeking. Ek kan goed dink dat die uitspraak min of meer dieselfde kan wees.
Thanks for sharing sir. This is very interesting and informative.
Thank you for sharing this, and in English
So interesting. Thanks for all the hard work
This is so interesting. I am a Swanepoel and would love to know my background like this.
Greetings cousin!! My 8th great grandfather on my fathers side is Johannas Jansz Swart (b.1646 d.1710)
Hi Kykso.
Interesting to hear your history story. I even learned something from it. Never knew that the European Boer settlers were there even before the indigenous tribes (or was it only the one tribe you mentioned that came 80 years after the Boers?).
The DNA results are always interesting for everyone I think. I always thought to be real 'Hollands' with some German / French blood. I'm from Holland descendants proven since 1650. But the DNA test results also showed 26% English, 14% Scandinavian and even 1% Middle East/Arabian. Same as in your story no clue how that came in my pedigree.
By the way, your English was very good to understand. 👍
Baie groeten uit Nederland en blyf interessante vlogs maak.
Hans.
It is so crazy when some people say that just because someone is of European decent (and is white) they can't be African.
His DNA shows it
What black person in their right mind would see the Afrikaners as fellow Africans with their trangressions.
Your narrative in English was flawless. South Africa is much like any other new world country being a melting pot of numerous nationalities to form a new nationality. I arrived in South Africa in the late 60’s as a baby from England but left in 2002 due to increasing tension and conflict. Perhaps if things had been different, I would have become a forefather of future South Africans.
That tension has only continued. Just yesterday our dog was poisoned so now we're perparing ourselves since they'll probably try and break in this long weekend
I love your factual account , my maternal father was strydom , otherwise the rest is from uk, I would love to do my dna ❤
Wait, who is saying the white afrikaaners from South Africa are mixed.
They more European than the Europeans, because they were not mixing here in Africa.
Well the ones that was is now coloureds lol.
I'm Celtic ...my mom is Boer, Slabbert, and Buis,. My mom's family came to SA 1688....
I am wondering what impact ZyCov-D and Plasmids will have on the Mitochondrial DNA that we have all inherited? I also have concerns what impact this BioNTech Serum will have on our Patrineal lineage?
I am strongly against Genetic Editing.
Totally agree!
The vaccines don't alter DNA 🙄
Thank you for sharing. Immensely interesting.
Great to hear. A true Boer. Salute.
Thank you for sharing this interesting facts.
Thank you for taking us so far back ( vand den Skryf?)
Wow this was amazing 👍 thanks for sharing ... what test/company did you use ? ....
I used "My Familytree DNA"
@@kykso thanks 👍, did you ever try another company, to compare the results ? (almost like a second opinion)
Smit is a Dutch name from origin.
Coetzee could either be French (Gaucher) or South Netherlands (Cudsee)
Kellerman is German (Kellermann)
Vorster is Dutch in origin (dukedom Brabant), and was actually based up on a job between 500 AD up to 1500 AD. This was basically a judicial officer.
Kühn is German in origin
Jacobs is Dutch in origin. Funny to hear you actually speak it in the Dutch way as well, so South Afrikaans still kept that I see.
Botha is a very interesting name actually, I think I can't do this justice on my own so i'll use the wikipedia entry if you don't mind (in Dutch):
"Botha of Both of Bode is een achternaam die voorkomt in het Nederlands taalgebied, en afkomstig is uit de regio Friesland en Noord-Duitsland. De naam is afkomstig van het Germaans Butha en Proto-Indo-Europees duta, dat "boodschapper" betekent."
South African Wiki says this:
"Botha is 'n familienaam wat algemeen onder Afrikaners in Suid-Afrika en in die Nederlandse taalgebied voorkom. Die van kom oorspronklik van die omgewings van Friesland en Noord-Duitsland. Dit is afgelei van die Germaanse Butha en Proto-Indo-Europese duta, wat "boodskapper" beteken."
What this means, Botha (or variations of it) is a VERY old name and has a lot of history to it.
Retief name might be French in origin, but I'm not sure about that.
Malan is from Farao islands, so it has a Danish background as well as English.
Boshoff is Dutch and (north-west) German in origin, but most of this family actually lives today in South Africa.
Klerk is Dutch in origin
van der Merwe is Dutch in origin. If you see a name with things like "de" "van der" and such in front of it, you can pretty much always trace it back to the Netherlands.
Malan stamvader kom uit suid Oos Frankryk, Retief sentraal Frankryk en Botha stamvader van Noord Duitsland .
awesome!!!!
@@kyksoHow stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Those surnames are considered afrikaans names in South Africa.
There are a few fundamental limitations with current DNA tests that should be kept in mind. Your full DNA is not sequenced unless you pay specifically for it, and thus certain markers (partial sequences) are used. This means that entire hereditary relations can be missed (for example, you could miss a forefather from a different continent). However, even if you sequence your full DNA, then there is the much more important limitation of reference human genomes. If you are 80% Irish, it is because the people (of the small fraction globally) whose DNA had been sequenced previously, had claimed to be ethnically Irish. Thus you are compared to a subjective reference. I am saying this as an Afrikaner with 1 or 2% South Asian ancestry and the rest mostly British/Northern European, but even that is not really reliable. There is yet another problem, even if you narrow down reference genomes, which is that when you are associated with where on earth is also partially subjective-we are almost certain to have all lived in Africa around 50 thousand years ago. Not to mention Neanderthal or Denisovan genes that we know for a fact are part of our genomes. Then there are the examples of identical twins who both have used these "consumer" tests and gotten significantly different results.
Totally agree. Ek het `n Hollandse buurman gehad wat gese het:' Roei met die spane wat jy het!" Currently we have this tools and it just give some indication at least.
I doubt how accurate these findings are. But at least these companies makes money and we have interesting stories to tell.@@somerandom181
I had my DNA test and found that i am mostly English but, I have the following. Balkan on my grandmothers(my moms mom) didnt know about it.
Scottish from my dads side knew about that the surprise was Swedish we which is from grandmother/grandfather/great uncle/aunty but, have no idea about that one. I also have worldwide over 9000 cousins that relate to me so yes we could well all be related somewhere alkng the line.
All very interesting... Unfortunately the further we go back into DNA history the more "wishy-washy" it becomes for our limited technology to read our past lineage from the DNA. But, if we could go all the way back to the beginning, we would realize that we are in fact ALL brothers in sisters, no matter our Race, Culture, Traditions or Heritage! Thank you for sharing.
Chimpanzees are 98% our brothers based on DNA. Cows are 80%. Be careful what you eat.
oh yes very true!!!!;
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Thank you very much. My Ouma was Korolina Leeson Marais. Even van die stigters van boeremusiek names die Vyf Vastrappers en Die Plesier markers.
Thank you sir, very interesting. Every afrikaans person i know would keep very quite about being 18% soutie.
Many protestants who were protesting against the darkness and error of catholicism and the terrible persecution (most protestants don't protest anymore! And have carried on with erroneous beliefs that are not scriptural) fled Europe in their hundreds and thousands to South Africa to live in relative peace and safety. That is why many south Africa Africans do have European blood in them... Genetically... Thank you I found your talk very sincere.
That's nonsense, 1652 with Jan van Riebeek dates colonialism! Whites were here centuries before that and it didn't begin in Cape Town. It's started in Kenya German Greeks which are the Boers have been here even longer than the formations of Europe!
Europe itself comes from the Greeks and Germans and there's vast literature on this. It's only western europe (Latin Europe & Dutch) that sells the narrative that it started in 1652.
Cleopatra was a Greek!
during the French revolution thousands of French fled France and moved to South Africa
The Hugenots fled France and went mainly to South Africa and Canada after the Edict of Nantes was revoked.
Escape from religious persecution 😢
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Dankie vir die Smit, Goed om te weet
7 generaciones from great grandparents time I wonder if the little ones will know who were there ansesters if there’s no one to tell?nice to know the first settlers had such a peacefull life as farmers
Very interesting. Thank you for the insight.
I had this DNA analysis done. I always thought I was English ( South African) because all four grandparents came from the British Isles. Turns out no, I'm mid European, North European, Scots, Irish and Welsh! English not mentioned.
Being South African, I was surprised to find I'm rather happy about this😊
all white people who moved to South Africa from 1600 and later forefathers come from Europe, i am of German and British blood on my father's side, mother's side is French and British, well When one says it's British it could be Welsh Irish Scottish,
We have documented English ancestry but my mother and did not receive that DNA. What we do have is a ton of Irish! 🙃
@@eisbeinGermanyIrish is not British.
The English are Anglo-Saxons, meaning German and French and European DNA.
@@richardwebb9532 yes i have read about that, well here on ytube is a video about how strong the German linage is in the British royal house of today, Before William or up to William theres apparently more german blood in the britsh royal house than british blood if i remeber correctly ,
My ancestors arrived at the Cape in 1658 leaving the Netherlands in 1657. Then again from France in 1689. And then from Gemany in 1691. My mother's family.
Very interesting to see the family tree of Jordaan. Thank you for sharing your pedigree
Very interesting and insightful. Baie dankie.
Dankie vir hierdie informasie! My voor ouers is van dieselfde tydperk ! Stam vaders Daniel Hugo en Anna Rousseau !
Die Hugo stamvader het in n boekekas weggekruip en is so op `n skip gelaai om uit Frankryk weg te kom.
Thank you for sharing!!!🙃🙏
Amazing and very interesting. How did you find out all this information?
I think it runs in the family the interest in family history. My dad gave me boxes ful of notes and pictures and documents fro our arnsesters. By grandfather allready had them and his father. So each generations stories was colected. I want to make a video on the stories and hapenings through the generations. So much to tell but still so much research to do!!! But inbetween I have to farm as well!!! We are planting about 1500 ha and farm with 2 000 sheep and also we have a dairy and beef cows... the time... i wish i have more time to do resurge...
Hi advise me as to how do i go about doing this research about myself. I am a black SA, of abambo/ Mfengu Dlamini clan origin.
Hi, well you could use different dna companies to do it. Costs around R3000 per test. If you google DNA tests for South Africa you will find different companies to choose from. I hope it help. Will be nice if you do it and share your results. Great weekend for you.
Interesting results - be proud of ones heritage is good thing.
Dankie vir die video. Ek het verwag dat jy dalk 'n klein persentasie Suid Indies of Maleis sou gehad het soos ek (my oupa groetjie is op St Helena gebore).
I found the St Helena part of your family history interesting. My ancestry on my fathers side also comes from there. The ancestors was Cpt Gewan Hamilton who was Napoleons custodian whilst he was a prisoner there. He was the Captain of Hms Havana, the war ship tasked with securing the island. He and Napoleon didn't enjoy each other very much needless to say. It is probable that your ancestor personaly knew mine.
Best regards to you and your family.
Baie interressant dankie Thys!!
My family came out from Germany just before 1700s. They were two Augustyn brothers, Jan Abraham Augustyn en Gert Matthys Augustyn. Their family was from polish descent before that. They settled in the Cape area. Their home language became Afrikaans eventually.
The two brothers were protestants fleeing the catholic persecution.
My ancestors came from France. Protestants fleeing Catholic persecution. They changed their language to Afrikaans. Seems like there is a theme.
Dutch names and Polish surname. Why the German connection? Surely they were Dutch-born, with those names.
@@spervuurproduksies Jan is a polish name too.
One side of my family is Coetsee there was a marriage with khoisan through an Irish side.thanks super interesting
Seems that one of your ancestors was a Roman. Britain was heavily settled by Angles, Saxons and Jutes. German tribes so that might explain the 18%
Very interesting talk. Thank you.
Dankie, mooi werk!!
Dankie Thys! Dit was insigewend. Groete
Bly jy het dit geniet!!!
Including all the half truths eh? Shame. G'day 🇦🇺 🪃 Australia
Absoluut,goed gesê ,dankie 🎉
Very interesting, fbsnk you!
Love this!
You are so right, we are defined by our culture but dna is so interesting, it shows we come from a melting pot
Hi Thys! So interessant! Dankie vir die deel. Ons volkie het darem 'n ryk herkoms en geskiedenis. Theron (Jacques Theron, Franse Hugenoot van Montpellier - stamvader aan my Ma se kant) en Van der Merwe (aan my Pa se kant) my afkoms. Dan is daar ook Heydenrych, Labushagne, Ben, Potgieter verder in die bloedlyn. Mal oor heraldiek. So interessant.
O ja en Kruger.
Ja julle sal moet kom kuier dat ons oor al die interesante goed kan praat!!! Dit was jare laas wat jul hier was!!!
janine, weet jy dalk van die potgieter gedenksteen buite ceres?
dit is opgerig vir vier potgieter broers wat daar vermoor is,
in die 1800s dink ek.
ek het dit per ongeluk gevind in 1976,
maar n paar jaar gelede kon ek dit nie weer kry nie.
I have spanish , Portugese , French , mostly with some russian , Baltic Ashkenazi Jewish and balkan in my dna . The Anatolia (Turkey) part of dna shocked me . Explains why i look like an African but the way i behave is very unafrican
Very interesting. Thank you. We coloureds are also such a mixture. My sons are Swiss "coloureds" & proud to call themselves BRUIN OUS. Their Swiss Family Tree goes back to 1306. We are working on a second South African one. The other one "disappeared."😁
My great grandpa was English from Bexley Heath. He & his younger brother to my shame came during the Boer War. They legally married two daughters of the Induna in Natal. Had gigantic estates in Richmond which their 10 descendants stupidly sold. Those white families who bought them then, still own them. My one Grand Uncle took me to meet them before I left for further studies in Switzerland in 1974.
1306!!! That is way back!!!!!
Baie moet hierdie sien. Dit is baie interessant en belangrike inligting. Dankie vir jou moeite
Firstly, greetings and Kia ora from New Zealand. I am of Polynesian/Pacific Island and English decent, but grew up in New Zealand; being a huge Rugby fan, I have been long interested in the strong, but friendly rivalry with South Africa, and of course their political and social landscape interests me. I was about 8 years old when the All Blacks toured South Africa in 1976, I also remember the 1981, Springbok tour of New Zealand, and the subsequent protests, which divided the country. It is only in recent years, that I discovered the somewhat complex and fascinating history of colonisation in South Africa. We had citizens of our very young country fight in the Boer Wars. Truth be told, they probably didn't know what they fighting for, and why they were even fighting. Thanks for sharing your story, and, I hope, God willing, to visit South Africa soon.
Thanks, dankie... ek is 'n Vorster so dit was lekker om my nommers te sien verby gaan! I'm wondering, have you any Ferreira numbers? Thanks again for showing all this detail!
Welgedaan baie interesante aanbieding!