Ward's turn: Hindsight and foreshadowing

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 35

  • @simonweckerle8422
    @simonweckerle8422 5 месяцев назад +27

    I find it super interesting to see the first season from Ward's point of view. In every episode, his aim is not to complete the mission, but rather to win the trust of the others. a very well written character and story arc.

  • @Flame-kq6tk
    @Flame-kq6tk 2 года назад +126

    0:40 "Grant you telling me this makes me feel like I can trust you" After rewatching this scene while I was rewatching the show always gets me because of how Coulson trusted Ward to the point where he told him about Audrey only to find out later Ward would be his greatest enemy and kill the person who Coulson loves the most

  • @wafflingmean4477
    @wafflingmean4477 6 месяцев назад +27

    One of the most tragic things is that the Framework proved there was someone out there who could have found Ward instead of Garret and shaped him into a good man. But in the real world, Garret found him. And the woman who could have made him a good man? Ward shot her in the head.

    • @RenaldyCalixte
      @RenaldyCalixte 26 дней назад

      You should read my Agents of Shield fan fiction series crossover with Star Wars.
      It's called Agents of the Clone Wars.
      Book 1 is called The Clairvoyant Conspiracy
      Book 2 is called Mandalore the Inhuman Kingdom
      In these stories Ward was found by Victoria Hand first but Hand turned Ward into a psychotic killer so that he would be recruited by John Garrett and be chosen by him to spy on Coulson. Hand did this because she believed it was the only way Shield could defeat Hydra and save the world. Hand felt the Jedi who believed themselves to be keepers of the peace and not soldiers were too weak minded to help Shield defeat Hydra Agents within Shield.
      Once the Clone wars escalate beyond Hydra's schemes Ward has no purpose. He ultimately decided to make a genuine attempt to help Shield win the Clone Wars so that he could petition for Hand's release from Shield custody but Coulson and the team don't believe him.
      I won't say anymore because there's a fun plot twist for Ward in my story that's different from what happened in the real world on Agents of Shield and in the Framework on Agents of Shield. I would encourage you to read it if you enjoyed Ward's storyline on Agents of Shield.

  • @SunriseGamer123
    @SunriseGamer123 3 года назад +137

    2:28 he was gonna kill May at the time he wasn’t affected 😳

    • @ShieldVids
      @ShieldVids  3 года назад +20

      Yep

    • @peterz1647
      @peterz1647 3 года назад +8

      Wait really? Then all of SHIELD would be hunting him so he would have to escape quickly. (Side question: Is Hydra capitalized? I'm guessing no because it doesn't stand for anything/no initials)

    • @Nick-eu5lb
      @Nick-eu5lb 2 года назад +19

      @@peterz1647 no he would say he was still under the spell

    • @notaseat5934
      @notaseat5934 2 года назад +14

      @@peterz1647 he would act distraught, as we saw him do when they told him Garrett was Hydra

    • @wafflingmean4477
      @wafflingmean4477 6 месяцев назад +2

      Fuuuuuuuuk I never noticed that. Goddamn. If we're not including super soldiers, literally the only other two SHIELD agents who can match or beat Ward in hand to hand are May and Black Widow. And given how close Fury kept Black Widow Ward had pretty good assurance he wasn't going to have to deal with her on short notice. So removing May basically guarantees Ward can wipe out Coulson's entire team, or capture Coulson (for Garret to dissect and discover how he returned from the dead) with no opposition. Don't get me wrong Coulson's an avengers level threat when he wants to be, but only so long as he's controlling the situation. No chance of that when he didn't know Ward was Hydra.

  • @Dual2212
    @Dual2212 2 года назад +74

    2:25 just realised did ward suddenly realise he was himself again and still try and shoot may and try to claim he was still being controlled despite the fact that with hindsight the colar was already on the witch (first time watching it I did notice the odd timings but didn't realise what it meant until now)

    • @ShieldVids
      @ShieldVids  2 года назад +28

      Yes. May was always a threat to him so he tried to get rid of her. This was his only chance that would not raise suspicion

    • @Dual2212
      @Dual2212 2 года назад +6

      @@ShieldVids imagine how different aos would have been if there had already been a bullet in the chamber when ward hard fired the gun
      For one thing it would have changed the situation enough the fitzsimmons may have not gone to the air field which probably mean garatte would have never being injected with gh gone crazy which lead to his death and ward would have Skye his prisoner kinda the opposite of things that actually happened in time for season 2
      All bc of one bullet being loaded or not (not crazy addicted to the show just good at guessing the most probable futures with what Ik)

    • @cernolgluestick5561
      @cernolgluestick5561 Год назад +5

      yes this is my favourite one. because the scene by its self on first watch is kinda a cliche almost. guy underpsell wakes up last second before bad thing happons etc whatever, but then second runthrough new meaning, depth to it.

  • @KlaymenDel
    @KlaymenDel 4 года назад +97

    2:28 is the best one in hindsight

    • @StormsofPeril
      @StormsofPeril 8 месяцев назад

      Elaborate please

    • @KlaymenDel
      @KlaymenDel 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@StormsofPeril
      If memory serves me right, in this episode there was a villain who brainwashed main heroes to do his bidding. In the scene Ward pulls the trigger seemingly because he is not himself. But knowing the Hydra reveal, he WAS himself and just wanted to kill strong agent May. When gun fails him he plays it off like he was under spell (or whatever it was)

    • @StormsofPeril
      @StormsofPeril 8 месяцев назад

      @@KlaymenDel Thanks!

  • @ryle2814
    @ryle2814 2 года назад +42

    I knew he was evil once he threw fitz sandwich ps agents of shield is leaving netflix at the end of the months so I'm gonna re watch it

  • @personman1148
    @personman1148 4 года назад +54

    The staff showed Wards true colors.

    • @ShieldVids
      @ShieldVids  4 года назад +6

      Person Man how so

    • @personman1148
      @personman1148 4 года назад +15

      He acted more himself then I recently watched the episode researching with my father. I think i remember him almost slipping and that's how he was able to had not to go to Coulson he told Coulson the truth in that office he couldn't trust himself he was afraid of slipping. Sorry if I rambled a little ADHD is a pain when I'm bored.

    • @personman1148
      @personman1148 4 года назад +1

      Rewatching with my father autocorrect sucks.

    • @personman1148
      @personman1148 4 года назад +1

      Man re read that my autocorrect had a stroke for a second.

    • @wafflingmean4477
      @wafflingmean4477 4 года назад +10

      @@personman1148 He definitely acted more like the emotional Ward we see later in the season. He couldn't keep up the act with his past being blasted through his mind.

  • @David-bf2cg
    @David-bf2cg 5 лет назад +51

    Nice, there are some weird bits of editing, but otherwise good. Thanks for taking my recommendations.

    • @ShieldVids
      @ShieldVids  5 лет назад +15

      David Olsen I wanted to put emphasis on coulson saying that it’s not what ward wanted then show that he did.

    • @David-bf2cg
      @David-bf2cg 4 года назад +5

      Wait, is your username on Reddit Bloodoftheseven?

  • @KyleWillLivingston
    @KyleWillLivingston 5 лет назад +102

    You don't need to make a 3rd video but there is a hint/foreshadowing not in the video: "A defining moment."
    In Ep3, Ward tells Skye "Every field agent has a defining moment. Ask Coulson."
    In Ep11, Po says to Coulson "Seeing a boy lose his father at such a young age, as you did. A defining moment."
    In Ep16, When Skye and Coulson was realizing that the Clairvoyant was an Agent of SHIELD: She mentions that in his psych evaluation it said his father's death was "a defining moment" for him.

    • @ShieldVids
      @ShieldVids  5 лет назад +9

      Kyle William Livingston I will make other foreshadowing videos and that is a good one thank you

    • @personman1148
      @personman1148 4 года назад +3

      Do one on the daisy name.

  • @MegasXRL
    @MegasXRL 2 года назад +10

    Honestly ward being a mole the whole time make it a bit unrealistic that he didn't shoot may in first place when he was pointing at her (when lorelai was with them, before she went to the cage to fight lady sif). He shots her only when they're on the ground, after the effect of the speel went down.. but if the spell on it let me thinks that may was a threat to normal ward more than to actually in spell ward lol

    • @ShieldVids
      @ShieldVids  2 года назад +12

      Because he was only listening to lorerai

    • @Tobylake-jt6gu
      @Tobylake-jt6gu 6 месяцев назад

      Yea once he turned back he went evil ward to try to take out one of the members of the team but went back to lying once he figured he could not take out May.