Good review! Although, 9,500kms of review and no comment on the very obvious omission of front arm rests and even a fold down centre armrest for second row passengers.
Fair points. Must admit I put all three child seats in straight away, and they stayed there for the duration. Must say I don't get armrests up front. I'd rather keep my arms free for steering. But horses for courses. Cheers, Mal Flynn
@@carsguide I driven my Renault Traffic for 20 years two handed with elbow on armrest. It helps on long journeys. I'm now looking at a replacement van. Swivel front twin seats with armrests bring a whole new game to these vans, top of my list.
I'm a CX9 owner with 3 kids who recently hired a Carnival on holiday. The Carnival is a spaceship, although still a couple hundred mm longer than the CX9. We loved the space and practicality and I've been doing mental gymnastics since to try to understand where a middle ground might be. Coming at it from one angle, the Carnival is probably still big enough for most families if they lopped 200mm off it. Coming at it from another angle, how much of the Carnival's packaging could be applied to something that still looks externally like an SUV (and therefore sells strongly)? Whilst the higher roof and lower floor allow so much of the extra functionality of the Carnival and Staria, I believe an SUV could still be packaged with sliding doors, removable centre seat (for walkthrough) and even the mid-mounted spare wheel so the boot is deeper and more usable when the third row is up. All these things, whilst pioneered in vans, are not limited solely to being in vans. I believe this middle ground might be a strong market in the SUV sector in the future, perhaps helped by EV packaging freedoms.
@@patricklin6177 Yeah, you're right. I guess I was more thinking of a target length, as the CX9 is already a bit longer than it should be. I think something sub 5m could be done.
@@stewartmarler1416 If you ever need a reference for a product planning job, you know where to find me. Brilliant thinking. I'd buy one. Cheers, Mal Flynn
Awesome van and it drives soooo well. 360 camera at a standard model is insanely good. I got a chance to move a 2s version and it actually drives like an i30 sedan man with the awesome height above the road and amazing pick up! Great value proposition the Elite is! I got mine at Grand Prix Hyundai Caboolture 🔥❤️🚙
We have been looking at an upgrade for our Honda odyssey when the lease is up and the Elite petrol is looking the goods at the moment. The high roof and large amount of space fits us as not everybody wants to crouch around in the "bus" and the kids are getting older so the space works. I like to drive so the V6 oomph will be nice.
It is fantastic but too high for some parkings. If it was 1,9 m high max - better. Also 3rd row in carnival is better - hide to floor. I just hope Kia will make hybrid or plug in one and sell it also in EU. And please Hyundai - only 2 isofix sets in this huge car for big family? give me break!!
Too many compromises in functionality - anchor points, no ability to do walk through. Still waiting for an EV people mover that doesn’t cost a kidney. It really seems that they didn’t to pinch best bits from karnival to make it the go to for MPV in AU
The Carnival doesn’t have a full size spare wheel like this one does, for those contemplating rural road trips… probably why this doesn’t have the 3rd row folding flat
Yea that’s too much space.. Nobody wants to drive around in an Amazon delivery truck lol Carnival actually looks very good and interior is awesome and space is very and good and tech is top notch and drive smooth!!
Actually, Staria is the superior vehicle for practicality. Multivan is exactly the same size (length, height, wheelbase), but as a massive 13.2 metre turning circle compared with Staria's at 11.9. Multivan is FWD only below $70K, Staria has better power/weight ratio, bigger boot, yet weighs only 60kg more in Highlander variant and is about $3000 cheaper.
@@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars valid points, although I’d never consider a vehicle like this with turning circle in mind. I’d only consider an AWD for something with this much power and torque, wouldn’t dare rely on that to funnel through only the front wheels on something 5m long. Multivan for me is just far superior in most metrics (sadly costs a lot more but equally holds its value arguable better than almost anything else people mover related).
@@jamiebagala1897 Try driving them back to back. The Staria is well ahead for general refinement. Multivan has a definite cool factor though. Cheers, Mal Flynn
Good review! Although, 9,500kms of review and no comment on the very obvious omission of front arm rests and even a fold down centre armrest for second row passengers.
Fair points. Must admit I put all three child seats in straight away, and they stayed there for the duration. Must say I don't get armrests up front. I'd rather keep my arms free for steering. But horses for courses. Cheers, Mal Flynn
@@carsguide
I driven my Renault Traffic for 20 years two handed with elbow on armrest. It helps on long journeys. I'm now looking at a replacement van. Swivel front twin seats with armrests bring a whole new game to these vans, top of my list.
I'm a CX9 owner with 3 kids who recently hired a Carnival on holiday. The Carnival is a spaceship, although still a couple hundred mm longer than the CX9. We loved the space and practicality and I've been doing mental gymnastics since to try to understand where a middle ground might be. Coming at it from one angle, the Carnival is probably still big enough for most families if they lopped 200mm off it. Coming at it from another angle, how much of the Carnival's packaging could be applied to something that still looks externally like an SUV (and therefore sells strongly)? Whilst the higher roof and lower floor allow so much of the extra functionality of the Carnival and Staria, I believe an SUV could still be packaged with sliding doors, removable centre seat (for walkthrough) and even the mid-mounted spare wheel so the boot is deeper and more usable when the third row is up. All these things, whilst pioneered in vans, are not limited solely to being in vans. I believe this middle ground might be a strong market in the SUV sector in the future, perhaps helped by EV packaging freedoms.
Actually, the Carnival is 5,115 mm Long while the CX-9 is 5,075 mm long which ends up with only a 40 mm difference.
@@patricklin6177 Yeah, you're right. I guess I was more thinking of a target length, as the CX9 is already a bit longer than it should be. I think something sub 5m could be done.
@@stewartmarler1416 If you ever need a reference for a product planning job, you know where to find me. Brilliant thinking. I'd buy one. Cheers, Mal Flynn
Great review
Awesome van and it drives soooo well. 360 camera at a standard model is insanely good. I got a chance to move a 2s version and it actually drives like an i30 sedan man with the awesome height above the road and amazing pick up!
Great value proposition the Elite is! I got mine at Grand Prix Hyundai Caboolture 🔥❤️🚙
Love your review 👍👍😀
We have been looking at an upgrade for our Honda odyssey when the lease is up and the Elite petrol is looking the goods at the moment. The high roof and large amount of space fits us as not everybody wants to crouch around in the "bus" and the kids are getting older so the space works. I like to drive so the V6 oomph will be nice.
It is fantastic but too high for some parkings. If it was 1,9 m high max - better. Also 3rd row in carnival is better - hide to floor. I just hope Kia will make hybrid or plug in one and sell it also in EU. And please Hyundai - only 2 isofix sets in this huge car for big family? give me break!!
I just don't understand why they couldn't put anchor points in the third row
Customer demand vs cost I'd say. Shame though, given the Staria ain't cheap. Cheers, Mal Flynn
4:51 gave me anxiety
Ditto. Cheers, Mal Flynn
Very good review !
Too many compromises in functionality - anchor points, no ability to do walk through. Still waiting for an EV people mover that doesn’t cost a kidney. It really seems that they didn’t to pinch best bits from karnival to make it the go to for MPV in AU
My Dreams ❤😢❤❤
The Carnival doesn’t have a full size spare wheel like this one does, for those contemplating rural road trips… probably why this doesn’t have the 3rd row folding flat
Imagine if they could remove the centre console so tending to the little ones in the back a breeze
Yea that’s too much space.. Nobody wants to drive around in an Amazon delivery truck lol
Carnival actually looks very good and interior is awesome and space is very and good and tech is top notch and drive smooth!!
This is cheaper version.
You should review premium version
The Staria is worthy of much praise but it’s not even close to competing with a Multivan
Actually, Staria is the superior vehicle for practicality.
Multivan is exactly the same size (length, height, wheelbase), but as a massive 13.2 metre turning circle compared with Staria's at 11.9. Multivan is FWD only below $70K, Staria has better power/weight ratio, bigger boot, yet weighs only 60kg more in Highlander variant and is about $3000 cheaper.
@@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars valid points, although I’d never consider a vehicle like this with turning circle in mind. I’d only consider an AWD for something with this much power and torque, wouldn’t dare rely on that to funnel through only the front wheels on something 5m long. Multivan for me is just far superior in most metrics (sadly costs a lot more but equally holds its value arguable better than almost anything else people mover related).
@@jamiebagala1897 Try driving them back to back. The Staria is well ahead for general refinement. Multivan has a definite cool factor though. Cheers, Mal Flynn
Hyundai copied the design of the 1st Generation Toyota Tarago/Estima/Previa. In addition, this car is too boxy
I bought the hyundai Elite diesel over the Carnival for these reasons. Blah,blah, blah full size spare. Lol
Save a few dollars and get the petrol version....
save a whole lot more and get a vasectomy.😄
Fugly front. Back kinda nahh. Hyundai h1 2010 is much better looking and 8 seater is fakken massive back space too.
I lost my faith humanity when we switch useful minivans to stupid SUV's (land cruisers exclıded)