Sda po ako dati tas na convert ako s born again.. Then now sa matagal kong pagsasaliksik ang inc ang tunay na may dla ng tunay na aral.. Dhil din sa tunay na pag kakilala sa panginoong jesu cristo
Ellen White "In the presentation of unpopular truth, which involves a heavy cross, preachers should be careful that every word is as God would have it. THEIR WORDS SHOULD NEVER CUT. They should present the truth in humility, with the deepest love for souls and an earnest desire for their salvation, and LET THE TRUTH CUT. They should not defy ministers of other denominations and seek to provoke a debate. They should not stand in a position like that of Goliath when he defied the armies of Israel. Israel did not defy Goliath, but Goliath made his proud boasts against God and His people. The defying, the boasting, and the railing must come from the opposers of truth, who act the Goliath. But none of this spirit should be seen in those whom God has sent forth to proclaim the last message of warning to a doomed world." 3T 218.1
The SDA minister is a good debater, the other one is amateurish. Villaver was quick to detect the weakness of the arguments of the INC minister. The best explanation of the INC minister is his long-drawn voice, but he cannot prove his allegation within the theme. This forcing of voice is characteristic of every INC minister to captivate less intellectual audience. Hence, their multitudes of uncritical thinkers from the justices down to the common citizen. The weakness of Villaver is his frequent preempts during the dabate, yet he does it to clarify further what is blurred due to the preaching-style of the INC minister. Preaching is not debating. I think the INC minister must hone his skills for debate. The publicity of INC is external pageantries, from their church designs to their frigid way of worship. But I have noticed that when the members go to church they get inside without bringing their Bibles. They all depend their scripture interpretation from ministers who are themselves incompetent when it comes to hermeneutics. There was a young upstart minister who came to me to give a Bible study. That was the first time he saw me. Guess what. Knowing I am a Seventh-day Adventist he immediately took his Bible and proved to me that Jesus is not god, and that with other texts. I gave him 1John 5.20; John 1.1-14; John 8:24,58; Isa. 9.6; Hebrews 1.6-8, and he cannot frame a correct answer except what are found in their doctrinal booklet written by Felix Manalo, to which, when I read, I immediately laugh. I was surprised that even Manalo could be so idiot as not to give a correct interpretation or explain a Bible verse that is within the context. Let me bring your attention to the creed of the INC. There are so many negative statements in it. The word "firmly" "only" suggest some brainwashing.
Zerkse Garcia Yes thats true! Mga debatido ng INC lumalakas boses para makuha ang atensyon ng mga tao, pero d namn nila eni explain ng maayos! ..iba pag pera2 na..
Let me add. The INC are a little less than the Roman church when it comes to pageantries and externals. But when it comes to doctrines, there is nothing in it. Yes it is true that an element of fear pervades both within INC, roman church, and the SDA church as well. The SDA church is not exempt in sharing wrong doctrines and sentiments from Rome just like the fear produced in the judgment and hell. Why? They do not appreciate their own 1888 message sent to them by A.T. Jones and E.J. Waggoner, and endorsed by Ellen G. White. Most of the SDA members are legalist, that's true, because they are ignorant about the 1888 message. This ignorance extends to their theologians in almost all SDA institutions who try to suppress the 1888 message, as a result, they have the theology of faith plus works, or faith and works, instead of faithfulness alone, as "the righteous, by his faithfulness/steadiness, he can survive" (Habakkuk 2.4; Romans 1.17; Galatians 3.11; Hebrews 10.38,39). The 1888 message of the SDA church is the third angel's message in verity. It is NOT the same as the Protestants' justification by faith. The 1888 message is uniquely Seventh-day Adventist. It involves the understanding that Christ's human nature is sinful like the rest of the fallen humanity; and in that sinful nature He overcame sin. This implies that we can and we ought to to the same and accomplish the same perfection Christ did, even in this lifetime, and that perfection and sinlessness can be achieved and must be achieved in this side of existence, just as Christ did. It also involves the understanding that Christ's atonement at the cross was only Sacrificial, and NOT final. The final atonement happened and continues until now since 1844. We must cooperate with Christ work of blotting out of sin by stopping the sins from the very springs of our own hearts which flows into the heavenly Sanctuary to pollute that Sanctuary. We must stop sinning now and forever. Or else Christ cannot finish His work in that sanctuary and we will be staying in this wilderness for too long. It is only after Christ's image will be fully reproduced among His people that He will come to claim them as His own. Until this happens, He will not come, and we will remain for too long in this planet until we grow old and die. Do not image that Christ's coming is very near. No it is not. It is still very far due to our insobordination and rebellion. He wants to take us home as soon as possible, but we do not cooperate with Him. It is in our power to hasten His coming and not just to prepare for it (See 2Peter 3.12).
Ang MAINGAY LANG DITO ANG MINISTER NG SDA,...WALA NAMAN NAPATUNAYAN ITONG MAINGAY NA MATABANG MANGANGARAL NYO NA SILA ANG TOTOONG RELIHIYON. PAANO BEST NA DEBATER YAN?
WALA PA PALA ANG MODERATOR, HINDI PALA NAIAYOS NG TAGA SDA ANG MAGANDANG SISTEMA NG FORMAL DEBATE, KAYA PALA MAINGAY LANG ANG MANGANGARAL NYO, WALA NAMAN PALANG MAPATUTUNAYAN MULA S BIBLIA ANG PANGALAN NG TUNAY NA IGLESIA AY SEVENDAY ADVENTIST
Para sa mga nag comment nga mangwartahay daw ang s.d.a hoy for your information ha ang mga I.n.c bakakon giod ,kay sa wala pa sila mag debate nagsabot ang s.d.a og inc nga kinahanglan dili ma late onya ni sugot man ang inc ,pero pag abut sa panahon nga mag debate na nagpa nganong nagpa late2 man sila? Onya kamong mga nag comment og pataka nganong sege pamog pataka?
Much ang salapi nga ang Mc na ito kht na sabhin pa na may pinirmhan. NG unit kinakailngan Paton na mag gy galang kc sumupot nmn cla. Ang sabhin MO Mc wala kayong Pera kya gnyan ang trato MO sa Inc.
Mulat simula ang Dios ay hindi pumahinga hanggang ngayon sabi ni Cristo (Juan 5:17) . Ang araw ng pamahinga ay darating kayat bantayan natin ang ating sarili upang makasama tayo sa Dios at ni Cristo sa kanyang kapahingahan sa langit (HEBREO 4:1,6,9-10).
Ang INC nangopya lang sa Domingo sa RCC. 1.) “Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did, happened in the first century. The holy day, the Sabbath, was changed from Saturday to Sunday. ‘The day of the Lord’ was chosen, not from any direction noted in the Scriptures, but from the (Catholic) Church’s sense of its own power…People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become 7th Day Adventists, and keep Saturday holy.” - St. Catherine Church Sentinel, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995. 2.) "St John speaks of the Lord’s day (Rev 1:10) but he does not tell us what day of the week that was, much less does he tell us what day was to take the place of the Sabbath ordained in the commandments. St. Luke speaks of the disciples meeting together to break bread on the first day of the week. Acts 20:7. And St. Paul (1 Cor.16:2) orders that on the first day of the week the Corinthians should lay in store what they designated to bestow in charity on the faithful in Judea: but neither the one or the other tells us that this first day of the week was to be henceforth a day of worship, and the Christian Sabbath..." Catholic Christian Instructed, 17th edition, p. 272-273 What are written in the Bible about the Sabbath: O Exo. 20:10 --The strangers (Strong's # 1616, Hebrew Concordance --wə•ḡê•rə•ḵā = aliens, sojourners, foreigners ) are forbidden to work in the Sabbath.
O Isa. 56:2-7-- The foreigners, or gentiles, are included in the Sabbath keeping. O Mark 2:28 -- the Sabbath is made for man, (not Jew). O Matt. 24:20 “And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.” The “flight” is about the Great Tribulation, a prophesied event just before the coming of Christ. The Sabbath or winter will hinder the fleeing of true Christians. This is a proof Christ is expecting His followers are still keeping the Sabbath. O Acts 13:44 “On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.” Gentiles included. If Sabbath was not commanded in the NT, then why were they assembling together on the Sabbath? Matt. 5:17-19 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Para ni sa mga MIGHTY DEBATERS, kagaya sa INC, very confident? Are truths in religious debate the absolute truths? Read the story below to find out. A judge had acquitted a snatcher, who stole an expensive Rolex watch, for lack of evidence. The snatcher did not understand well the judge who spoke in English. So he clarified his attorney: “Attorney,” the snatcher asked. “What has the judge said? I am already free? Does he meant I have to return the Rolex watch I stole and hid in our house? ” The lawyer answered back: “Are you stupid? If you tell the truth, you will be put back to prison. Just be quiet.” Another: A lawyer was sued for child support. At that time there was not yet a DNA test to prove paternity, so the case lingered on. The lawyer could not be pinned down because he was an expert debater. The girl grew up and became a striking resemblance of his supposed to be father. The case dragged on. After years the judge said: “Look, pañero. She is your carbon copy. Just accept her.” The father accepted the daughter but not because he was defeated. Therefore, by the cunning manipulation of words, men could hide the truths. God has these words for debaters. 1 Cor. 1:19-20 "For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? " Prudent: Strong’s Greek 4908 = sunetos- “bias discernment or understanding apart from the faith of God." Wise: Strong’s Greek 4680 = Sophos “clever, learned, skilled” Scribe: Strong’s Greek # 1122= grammateus-where the English “grammar” comes, meaning a learned man, skilled in religious law." Disputer: Strong’s Greek 4804 =suzététés- "mighty debaters, fierce and sounding off impressive, master in philosophy and religion."
Questions? Who is the debater here who is mighty in grammar, fierce and sounding off very impressive but has the bias in discernment of the laws of God. Whose doctrine is sunday worship? Answer: Doctrine of man not of God. Christ’s words: “My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority. He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him,” John 7: 16-18. Matt. 5:8-9 “These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.” Paul commands: 1 Cor.11: “Imitate me, just as I also imitate” Christ. Acts 17:2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures." Luke 4:16 “ So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.” Paul was a seventh day Sabbath keeper. Christ was a Sabbath keeper. 2 Cor. 5: 10 “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.” If we will be asked individually why we keep the Sunday, a commandment of man, and not the seventh day Sabbath, the commandment of God, what should we answer? Will the INC answer your sins? Christ is a fair judge. He will give each one a fair chance. The INC and RCC will debate mightily, like the Pharisees did. They will fall. Matt. 21: 42, 44 “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone… And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.” Daniel, one of the Hebrews’ finest prophets, had these words. Dan. 12: 10 “Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.” Those who do not understand the words of God will do wickedly and they will not understand. But the wise shall understand. The SDA are wise. They do not oppose God’s commandments. They obey not the traditions or commandments of man.
Kahit kailan hindi sumisira ng rules ang INC kung kaunting late lang di panggigiba iyan sa aral ng biblia dapat tingnan ang pagsira ng sda padtor na turo na binasa ng ministro sa biblia na hindi nga nangilin si Crusto sa Sabbath,dahil psla ang kapistahang Sabbath sa panahon nila noon ag nagdudulot ng mga kaguluhan sa mga tao noon kaya pala pinatigil na ng Diyos ang Sabbath.At ang nag papapatay pala kay Cristo na ipako sa krus ay mga taong naniniwala at nangingilin ng Sabbath .Kadi hindi nga sumunod nangilin si Cristo pinapapataya nila ito.Hindi ba ito makuhakuha ng mg sda members at pastors itinuturo parin nila hanggang ngayon?Para lang pala sa mga Isrealita ang Sabbath noon di na aplikable sa oanahon ni Cristo,kaya hindi nangilin si Cristo ng Sabbath nilabag niya ito.
nabuang na ang Iglesia ni Cristo kuno nga gitukod ni Manalo. Pati walay labot sa debate musingit na. Unya kung saktog paminsar ng ministro ninyo dapat insaktong oras musipot siya. mao gani naay kasabotan.
kahit anong Sunday-keeping Christian Churches hindi kayang tibagin ang SDA. Utos ng panginoon ang Sabbath at ito ay dapat sundin. Wag ung utos ng tao na Sunday. Sino ba ang ifollow ang utos ng Diyos na Saturday o utos ng tao na Sunday.
binasa ko nayan tuturoan kita magbasa ka ng histry ng mga jewish people okay search the language being used try to find out to the encyclopedia etc and read more on the bible
Unsay ipasabot sa taga INC. kay ang kasabotan nag ingon nga mag penalty ug 5t kung dili mutunga sa maong " ADLAW " . Buot ba ipasabot nga pwde ra sila mutunga ug 5pm basta anang ADLAWA ? Haha ! Abi namu strikto ang INC sa oras ky sirad-an man gani ilang simbahan ug DILI NA KASULOD ANG MA LATE !
Nakasabot man ka siguro no?. Ang Rules sa Debate magsisimula ang Debate kapag kompleto na ang Staff (specialty ang TIMER og MODERATOR) Na ni abot ang INC pero wala pa ang Moderator, kaya hnd kasalanan ng INC na hnd nagsimula ng maaga ang Debate kasi wala pa man ang Moderator, niabot ang moderator ulahi na..... Tan awa ang Video nga buo bag-o ka mag Comment brod
Oo nga nagbabasa ang sda ng biblia pero di parin lubusang nakakaunawa sa aral ng biblia.Buti pa si Moises panahon niya sinunod nila ang Sabbath kay Moises.Pero katakataka si Cristo mismo di nila sinusunod ang hindi na mangilin ng Sabbath oinatigil na pala iyan ng Diyos dahil nagdudulit ng kaguluhang piyesta ng Sabbath.Ibig sabihin di nakakaunawa ng lubos sa biblia ang mga sda?
@Rennie Flores Kay di man katubag injo ministro,mangutana na hinoon mahitungod sa arka no noeh,naunsa!alangan tubagon nga gawas sa tema..hahaha Ang pinakabastos jud ang ministro sa inc nga tambokikoy,moilog nmn microphone hahaha,way salig!
Sakto mn GD Ang SDA..kini pong Inc dili pod kamao oiii...mangutana ang Inc tubagon sa sda..kini pong Inc Kay dili man Niya pamation Ang SDA..nga sakto man konta Ang sda
@@dongtv_chanel1682 bugo ka,! mobayad ang dili mosipot sa adlaw, wala gisulti na ang maulahi sa oras. klaro kaayo pangwarta. minhoy iyang ulo walay 5k.
Ayaw pag binugo.. Kay inyong ministro ang naghagit hagit ayaw ipahid ang Sala sa uban.. dili Para sa sda ang bayad Para sa baranggay.. paminaw ug tarong ayaw pag tanga tanga..
MOSES LAW vs. GOD'S LAW COMPARE below Moses Law (ceremonial law) vs. God's Ten Commandment Law (moral law) MANY people often confuse Moses Law with God's Ten Commandment Law, but they are very different. Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. Pls check the difference below: ---------------------- 1. Called MOSES LAW (ceremonial law) Called "Law contained in ordinances" EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace. TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law) Called "the Royal law" JAMES 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: --------------------- 2. Written MOSES LAW (ceremonial law) Written by Moses in a book 2 CHRON. 35:12 And they removed the burnt offerings, that they might give according to the divisions of the families of the people, to offer unto the LORD, as it is written in the book of Moses. And so did they with the oxen. TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law) Written by God on stone EXO. 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. EXO. 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables ------------------- 3. Placed MOSES LAW (ceremonial law) Placed in the side of the ark DEUT. 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law) Placed inside the ark EXO. 40:20 And he took and put the testimony into the ark, and set the staves on the ark, and put the mercy seat above upon the ark: ------------------- 4. Ended / Stand Forever MOSES LAW (ceremonial law) Ended at the cross EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace. TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law) Will stand forever LUKE 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. ------------------- 5. Added / Points out sin MOSES LAW (ceremonial law) Added because of sin GAL. 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law) Points out sin ROM. 7:7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. ROM. 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. ------------------- 6. Contrary / Not grievous MOSES LAW (ceremonial law) Contrary to us, against us COL. 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross. TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law) Not grievous 1 JOHN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. -------------------- 7. Judges MOSES LAW (ceremonial law) Judges no man COL. 2:14-16 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law) Judges all men JAM. 2:10-12 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. -------------------- 8. Carnal / Spiritual MOSES LAW (ceremonial law) Carnal HEB. 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life. TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law) Spiritual ROM. 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. -------------------- 9. Nothing Perfect / Perfect MOSES LAW (ceremonial law) Made nothing perfect HEB. 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law) Perfect PSALMS 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. ------------------------ Source : www.preparingforeternity.com/mosevs10.htm COMPARE below Moses Law vs. God's Ten Commandment Law MANY people often confuse Moses Law with God's Ten Commandment Law, but they are very different. Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. It regulated the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, meat and drink offerings, etc., all of which foreshadowed the cross. This law was added "till the seed should come," and that seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16, 19). The ritual and ceremony of Moses' law pointed forward to Christ's sacrifice. When He died, this law came to an end, but the Ten Commandments (God's law) "stand fast for ever and ever." Psalm 111:7,8. There are two laws that are made crystal clear in the following verses below. Daniel 9:10 is talking about God's law and verse 11 is talking about Moses' law: "Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets." "Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him." Daniel 9:10,11 Special Note: Please note that God's law also called the 10 Commandments has existed at least as long as sin has existed. The Bible says, "Where no law is, there is no transgression [or sin]." Romans 4:15. So God's Ten Commandment law existed from the beginning. Men broke that law. "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4 Because of sin (or breaking God's law), Moses law was given (or "added" Galatians 3:16, 19) till Christ should come and die. Two separate laws involved: God's law or 10 Commandments and Moses Law.
Isa din tong ogok na to Moses law daw at Gods law hahahaha pinag ontog nya Ang talata halatang di nag babasa Ang ten commandments na sinasabi mong Moses law sa panginoon Yan galing panginoon Ang nag utos Kay Moses Nyan na Sabi Yan Ang mga kautusan na ipatupad mo sa mga taong sraelita
All Sunday-keeping churches are the same, whether they are Evangelical harlots or INC, or Jehovah's Witnesses. These are not the churches christ had built. They came from Rome and go back to Rome.
hnd ko naiintindihan ung salita. pero laging sagot ng SDA wala sa tema. hnd ba kayang sagutin? pansinin nio. kung tlgng tunay ang isang relehiyon dapat bawat tanung kaya mong sagutin. bkt hnd masagot? kc mahahalata. mahahalatang nag ssinungaling xa pag sinagot nia un. kc sa ttoo lng ung tanong hnd nmn malayo sa tema ung tanung ee. andun din ung tanung. ayaw lng sagutin. saliksikin nio mabuti.
talagang ganyan bro, upang hindi lalayo sa tema,, ibang explaination kasi yan.. kung baga sa parliamentary procedure,, ouit of order yan kaya di pwedeng i entertain..
Dili lang mgmatigas ang atong mga kasing kasing,ato jud pangitaon ang kamatuoran ky kitangbtanan nangandoy nga maluwas,pero dili na na makabt ot kong dili nato pangitaon ang matuod nga pgsunod ni Kristo
Kawawa tlaga itong SDA ang hilig ng SHOWDOWN...ngunit ng mabasa ng INC hahaha bumaba nagpalit ng damit sa sobrang pgkapahiya... Akala cguro ni mr.showdown walang mabasa..shock! Sya ng mabasa ng INC kya ayon TkO...hahahaha Yabang pa more...
@@alladenmandaan8959 hahaha my bobo'ng nag comment pala dito psssttt....0o ikaw alladen bogo'K hehehe ( FYi ) Hindi kylangan ang perma kc formality palusot lng yun...ang Mahalaga napatunayan ng INC na my mababasa tlga sa biblia akala kc ng SDA walang mabasa kya ayaaann...semple Lng naTkO tuloy sa showdown kaung mga LOSSER na SDA😢😢
pataka man lang pod utro pagsabot sa ministro sa INC SA OSEAS 2:11,SA CONTEXTO ana,,mao na nga gipahunong kay naulipon cla sa taga laing nasud kay mga pagano man ang nag ulipon kanila,mao nga andios nagapahinumdom perme sa pagbantay sa adlawa igpapahulay sa ilang paggawas gikan sa ilang pagkaulipon.mao na ang sakto dha sa oseas2;11
Haha pariha ra na 2 nga ngdebate pro nangangkon nga sila maoi tinuod, pro pro sila skater nangakon nga ila ang yuta ang ilang gibarugan pro wai documento nga ilaha ang yuta mai na sila nangiskwat lng
You will catch the fish by the mouth. Ang INC debater murag dili converted Kristiyano. Kulang humility, mercy and love. Maayo sa debate pero kulang sa application sa Holy Spirit, Gal. 5:22-23. 1 Cor. 13: 1- 2 "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing." The INC is a sounding brass. Mao ni daghan maayo sa debate pero mga kulang sa application sa unsay tinudanay nga kinabuhing Kristohanon. Para sa INC debater: James 2:5 "Listen, my beloved brethren: Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?" Christ said if you love me, keep my commandments, John 14:15, 1 John 5:3. Unta mabasahan ni sa INC debater. Keep God's commandments, specially the love of your fellow Christian.
Dapat lang mag penalty ky maoy kasabutan! For ur information sa mga nag comment nga mukhang kwarta ang SDA, " FOR BRGY FUND PRUPOSES " na padulong ang penalty... Ayaw pataka ug comment ug WALA KA KASAYUD !
JM MIFRANUM lol.. brgy fund?? dli jd. kay bcn gatou sila nga walay dala na budget ang pastor sa sda para dli ma daun ang debate para d sila mapildi.. #INCpamore
Ang utos ng sabbath sa Israelita lamang pinasunod niyan kaya si Cristo hindi na applikable sa panahin ni Cristo,kailan man di nangilin si Cristo ng Sabbath.
mas bastos ang ministro sa INC kanang tambok kay miilog nas microphone bisan dili maoy nkapirma sa debate,Ang debatidor noon wa na katingog..style na sa INC basta dehado sa katarungan.
Mu ingon gihapon sya nga wla mabasa. Dili man kinahanglan nga ma basa atleast naa masabot nahimong dulomtanan sa ginoo ang adlawng ipag pahulay. D na kinahanglan nga mabsa nga ang ginoo mag sugo nga undangon na ang adlawng ipagpahulay. Mag pa tala2 ning sda. Mào nay ilang trick pa tala2. Nga klaro nga masabot mag binulok.
tama man si villaver. late jud mo. ug mao nay sabot na kung dili musipot ana na oras mubayad ug 5k, so what is your definition of late? late is equivalent to not attending on that exact time. Dili pwede mag binugo diri. Dili ta mga unggoy.
Very Good ang inyong pastor sa SDA nga mag Oban sila ni Eli Soriano sa ADD kay pareho ilahang Dila..."PASTILAN" ok lang ba sa Pastor ang pareho ana? sa mga SDA, if you can find the "Seventh day Adventist Church" in the Bible,I'll Join your Church This Saturday. please answer my request.thank you.
Please inform me if the name "Iglesia ni Cristo" is also in the original Greek, and I will join your church this Sunday. Promise. Do not give me the Lamsa Translation because it was not supported by the majority of manuscripts. I want the Greek one. If it's in the Aramaic, be sure it's accurate. And I will renounce Seventh-day Adventism and go to church always on Sunday, NOT on God's Sabbath day. You may find that in Romans 16.16 and Acts 20.28, but be sure it is authentic and precise.
Zerkse Garcia ahh so takot ka sa lamsa !!!! hahaha kawawa namn kayo, hindi yan amin na lebro hahaha takot kayo kay lamsa sa wakas inamin din ninyo na kayo ay natakot sa salin ni lamsa. hahaha kawawa
Strick kaayo pag ma late ka sa ilang pagsamba dili naka kasulod ...Kay sarad..an naka.pero diha late sila dili motuman sa pinirmahan .....nindot mankaha na ila Ang simbahan murag mansyon sa 5k lng Ang penalty dili ka bayad mga hambogero raba kaayo I'm experienced ko ani nila .....church of demons man siguro sila
La moy dag-anan basta sda ang ka dbati. Kay ilang trick modagan dayon ni sila nga ang pangutana o ang tubag wala sa tema. Dili man tanan nga imong planong ipangutana isulod sa tema. Grabi silag style. Asay maayo sundugon pud ninyo ang style nila ba. Gamay na ligas ingnon dayon nga wala pud sa tema aron ma bawsan sad sila.
Ang aral ng sda sa totoo lang ay masalimoot hindi crystal clear.Sa dulo ng videong ito ang sda pastor ay nagdudulot ng pagkakalito at kahibiyan at nilapastangan pa ang Panginoong Jesucristo.Ito ba pinagmamalaki ni yong debater,lapastangan kay Cristo?Grabe naman hindi na nahiya ang sda pastor sa mga nanonood,maging kay Cristo at sa Diyos?Lapastangang sda pastor.ISAIAS 41 : 11-13.
Hahahaha Hindi Pera Ang isyo ditu pre kaluluwa doctrina at kaligtasan paano Kasi pa maang maangan lang kayo sa katotohanan kahit Mali sinasang ayonan nyo
Mag minaro pud ning sda. Mirag mag patuo na maayo na silang mga sda sa debate. Sa debate lagi sa modrator na tangaon pud. Ma butang syag walay pangutok. Klaro kaayo nga masabot nga gi undang na ang celebrations sa adlawng ipagpahulay sa panahon sa judio. Iya pajud pangitaon nga mabasa ba nga ginoo nag sugo na pa undangon na ang ilang adlaw ipagpahulay sa judio. Maru kaayo. K ra ang minaru dili pahalata, halata kaayo.
Valerie, If you want to know what INC is, go to James White and Joe Ventilacion debate on RUclips. It is done in English Also Ethan Smith does a lot of post on them. Here is a free ebook on Sabbath. Click on the link then email for the list of books. www.lifeassuranceministries.com/spanishbooks.html then email Dale@ratzlaf.com for book. We have a few INC member in the State, Not see them in Jamaica yet.
INC mean Church of Christ, but not the Church of Christ you know. They are considered cultic in doctrine just as Adventist and Jehovah Witness. At least Adventist debate them, but in Jamaica, Adventist runs away from debates. We are educating INC on Adventist other teachings to make Adventist look at Ellen false teaching and errors in SDA teaching.
Asa dapita nga korek brod? ky murag wala koy nakitang KOREK sa SDA ginawa lng ng pastor nagyabang yabangan at naghamon ng showdown sa INC ngunit ng binasahan sya ng talata ng INC ayon...na TkO c pastor showdown yun kc ang klaro dito brod.. ikaw pwd mo e korek
Napatunayan ng INC na hindi na nangilin si Cristo sa Sabbath pinatigil na pala ng Diyos dahi nagbinigay ng kaguluhan sa panahon nila ang ouyesta ng Sabbath,kaya si Cristo di nangilin kaya pinapapatay ng mga taong nangingilin ng Sabbath?Dahil hindi si Cristo nangilin ng Sabbath?kaya pinapaoatay siya.
Basis for INC in the Bible??? 1) Romans 16.16 - but the words are in the plural "churches of Christ" so palpak agad. 2) Acts 20.28 -the original is "TEN EKKLESIAN TOU THEO, HEN PERIEPOIESATO DIA AIMATOS TOU IDIOU" (the assembly of God which He purchased with the blood of His Own). No "iglesia ni Cristo" there, no church of christ. And if in some manuscripts it says, "church of the Lord" the Kurios (Lord) here meant Yahweh. So one must be forced to accept that Jesus is Yahweh if your "lord" mean the One who is Lord known to the prophets and apostles who is none other than Yahweh. Another slap on INC who do not believe that Christ is Yahweh, the God of gods and Lord of lords. 3) If you name your church "IGLESIA NI CRISTO" just because it's there in the Bible, do you think I'm a fool to join in something just because it carries a name? Well, there are many churches who carries the same name "church of Christ" along with the Philippines UCCP (United Church of Christ in the Philippines) which is older than INC. I for myself can start my own church and then name it "church of christ" and then get as many people to believe that my church is true because it's in the Bible. But that's stupid argument. A) A name has no logical significance, - for example, the name of a shampoo is "Rejoice". Does it mean that when I used it I will rejoice? Hahahaha. Another example is the family name Green, such as Steve Green. Of course you cannot see that these people are colored green just because their family name has it. In like manner, naming a church "iglesia ni Cristo" does not automatically mean that it is Christ's church. The following reason militates against that view: B) The church of Christ, composed of His followers always gather on the Sabbath day, NOT on Sunday. That's the original Church of Christ during apostolic times (Matthew 28.20; Matthew 24.20; John 13.15; Luke 4.16; Mark 2.27,28; Matthew 12,1-12; Luke 13.10-16; John 7.23; Acts 13.14,15; Acts 13.27, 42-44; Acts 16.13; Acts 17.1-4;Acts 18.1-4; Hebrews 4.1-11). No room for Sunday observance. You may take Acts 20.7 but a closer look into the Greek you cannot find a support for Sunday observance here. Paul was intending (Greek, "MELLON") to leave the following day. This is why His discourse went till midnight towards dawn. Notice, too, that Paul was having a DIELEGETO (dialogue) with them. The word used is DIELEGETO (discourse, dialogue, talk), NOT kerygma (preaching). So there is no reason to suppose that Acts 20.7 is an event wherein Paul "preached" to them because you cannot find that word there. Instead we find "DIELEGETO" and LOGON (discourse). Nothing is significant in this verse to support Sunday observance. It's just a casual talk with Paul who was "INTENDING TO LEAVE THE FOLLOWING DAY" NOT intending to worship on Sunday. There was no hint that worship is implied in this text. There is no eucharist involved, either. Breaking of bread is ordinary supper, not a communion service or worship. The other text Sunday-keepers will use is Colossians 2.16. But again, that's in the plural (sabbaton - sabbaths), not the singular with article (the Sabbath). In addition, you cannot find "Sunday" endorsed in that text. How stupid it is to read Colossians 2.16 like this "Let no man judge you concerning Sunday..." Well, Sunday is NOT the day the Apostles observed. The day for "holy convocation" remains God's Sabbath day (Leviticus 23.3). There is no change for that. And there is no reason to suppose that the weekly Sabbath is shadow (v.17) because it was never a shadow. Those things that were included in the "shadows" are the rituals, including the ritual sabbaths (See Hebrews 9.10; Hebrews 10.1-4) which must cease (Daniel 9.24). The use of Hosea 2.11 is misplaced since the sabbaths God wants to stop are those the Israelites employ in their worship of other gods as what the context shows us. God cannot against His own Sabbath because it was His own holy day and His day of delight (Isaiah 58.13,14). Further, there was no command from Christs and His apostles that the SAbbath observance is to be stopped. No. It remains the same. "The Sabbath was made for humankind. Therefore the Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath day" (Mark 2.27,28). In Hebrews 4.9 you cannot find there "Sunday" but it's the same Sabbath day mentioned throughout the chapter. It is stupid to use Psalm 118.24 to support Sunday observance theory because it ain't there in Psalm 118.24. There is no reason to introduce Sunday observance in the first place, unless you reduce the Creator God and change Him into what He is not. But no. He is the One who made the heavens and the earth and is entitled to be reverenced by humankind, and His day should be marked as holy, just as He had plainly commanded. "The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, [even] they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens." (Jeremiah 10.11). Some may say that we can worship God in any day as what Romans 14.5 states. Again, you cannot read "WORSHIP" there. Instead, what we find is the word "KRINEI" (judge, esteem), and that's not the same as "QADOSH" (to sanctify, keep holy) as what was clearly mandated in Exodus 20.8. In Mark 2.27, Jesus is very specific, "The Sabbath was made for humankind." It does not day "ANY DAY was made for man." God's Sabbath for man remains the same Sabbath through the span of time. There is no justification for that wrong understanding that "ANY-DAY-CAN-BE-REST-DAY." It would be better for us to cease from our own righteousness and man-made sabbaths and accept God's rest for us. If Sunday-keepers argue that any day can be rest day, WHY DO THEY HAVE A REGULAR GATHERING ON SUNDAYS? They ought to do that on God's Sabbath day, both for rest and for "holy convocation" (Leviticus 23.3). Another is 1Corinthians 16.2- the word is "LOGIAI" (collections, gatherings in the commercial sense). There is nothing in this text to show that a worship occurred. Again, there is no reason to worship on a day not Jewish, or not mandated by God. Why would they gather on Sunday? To celebrate Christ's resurrection? But that reasoning came in late, as late as during the time of Justin Martyr. If one has to find a biblical support why Christ's resurrection is very important for a christian, find it on 1Corinthians 15. Unfortunately, Sunday is NOT mentioned. Paul states only t he fact that Jesus' resurrection is very important to us to give us hope, but there was NO SUNDAY OBSERVANCE ENDORSED, NOR A CHANGE OF GOD'S SABBATH DAY INTO SUNDAY. So where did they got this reasoning of Christ's-resurrection-day-worship-day when 1Corinthians 15 does not mention Sunday? Probably they got that on Justin Martyrs's head or by some non-apostles who spoke as though they were also apostles when they are not. Christ never taught His church to celebrate His resurrection but His death! (1Corinthians 11.23-26) and also the Sabbath days (Leviticus 23.32-King James Version). Celebrating Sunday? That's stupid and pagan. That's Roman nonsense followed by the INC who always gather on Sundays, instead of the SAbbath day of Yahweh the true God. Therefore they are not truly worshiping the true God because they gave Him a fake worship, a wrong worship on Sunday. If they argue using Revelation 1.10 as Sunday, see Exodus 20.10; Isaiah 58.13,14; Mark 2.27,28). The Lord's day is His Sabbath day, NOT Sunday, as far as Scriptures are concerned. If INC worship God in spirit and in truth, they must follow John who was "IN THE SPIRIT" on Sunday?????? No, but ON THE LORD'S DAY, and that's the Sabbath day. John worships God in the spirit and in truth, not in spirit and in falsehood. Worshiping God on Sunday is worship NOT in truth but in lies. 4) God's true religion is not validated by name. Anyone can get names out of the Bible, for example "Born again" it's also in the bible (John 3.3-8), as well as "Baptist"(Matthew 3.1), "Pentecost" (ACts 2.1, hence, "Pentecostals"), "church of christ"/"churches of christ," "church of God", "assembly of God," etc. Now which among these groups are is the true church when all of them claim to be Biblical? The INC? The original Greek is NOT "Iglesia ni Crist" but "AI EKKLESIAI TOU CHRISTOU" (the churches of Christ) -Romans 16.16. In addition, Felix Manalo is not the head of that church because Christ alone is the head of every man (1Corinthians 11.3), and that church existed many centuries ago. It does not need a Manalo to define it. God's last-day messenger is NOT Manalo, but Ellen G. White, the fourth most translated author in the world. The doctrines of Manalo are not originally his. Many were taken from Arius. The INC's doctrine about soul-sleep is from the Sventh-day Adventist church. For public information, Felix Manalo is one ofthe original four ministers of the Seventh-day Adventist church. But he was kicked out because of immorality. He eloped a sabbath-school secretary; hence we was disciplined. His ministerial credentials were taken. He is no longer a pastor in the SDA church. 5) God's true religion is identified in works and in spirit, not in names. See James 1.27; Malachi 3.16-18; Matthew 18.20. But above all, especially in these last days of this earth's history, they are the ones who "keep the Commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus" which is "the Spirit of prophecy" (Revelation 12.17; Revelation 19.10). See also Revelation 14.12 - they "keep the Commandments of God and the faithfulness of Jesus." The INC fell short on that criteria because 1) They failed in James 1.27 - they had no hospitals or welfare services like what the SDA church had done in the community. 2) They failed in Malachi 3.16-18 because they do NOT "thought upon His name." Why? they do not represent God in all their lifestyle, -body, soul, and spirit. They drink alcoholic beverages, smoke, and eat unclean animals, and are not healthy. They profane God's name and do not represent Him to the world.
Khen Cain Egsuon.. Miana si pastr v. Nga kung dunay mabasa ang INC nga ang Dios wla ming sugo nga ang Adlawng igpapahulay ipatuman hangtod karong panahona, Muingon gyud sya nga pildi na sya, Kung naa lagi mabasa?. Unya kung wla, so ano say ngo po ?.
wala man jud mao gani nakaingon sya nga pildi na sya kung naa pero dili dawat limpyo. kinahanglan maglisod gyud ang INC. pero murag wa man kaparog ang INC.
tama ka kapated.isa lang ang tutoo.gipabantayan ang adlaw nga igpapahulay,piro igpapahulay na nga kang Cristo.me ari ang Dios,dile aron sa pag bungkag kondile aron sa pag ferpect.
Maraming relihiyon pinanggalingan ang Felix Manalo kaya umalis siya sa katagalan napansin niya lahat wala sa katotohanan wala sa biblia ang mga aral na sinusunod lalo sa sda,kaya nilayasan niya ito. Hanggat napag-aralan at natuklasan ang biblia na merong IGLESIA NI CRISTO at iyon ang kaniyang itinuro at ipinangaral sa mga tao.
Kaya nga maraming kalamidad ngayon sumpa ng Diyos sa mga tao sa buong mundo ayaw tumalima sa aral.ni Cristo at sa Diyos ay itigil na ang pangingilin ng araw ng Sabbath dahil nagdudulot pala ito ng kaguluhan sa panahon noon pinatigil na ng Diyos.
Mangawartahay kaayo Ang sda...nganung pangutan on pa man sa cross exam Ang tungod sa oras ug sa five k? nga Wala man to sa tema tapos nasettle Naman to pag about sa moderator..walay klaro
Suko lng mo mga inc, kdaghan ninyo nga mga relihiyon nga nagsimba og domingo knsa my tinood ninyo catholic baptist alliance aglipay church of god church of christ penticostal daghan pa gyud relihiyon kna mga domingo mana kinsay tinood
Sabi ng inc hindi daw sila inutusan mag samba ng sabado pero bitbit nila ang Biblia upang salungatin ang utos ng Dios. Kung hindi inutos sa inyo bakit pa kayo sumamba sa Dios? Nakipagkita na ba sa inyo ang Dios at sinabi sa inyo na sumamba kayo sa kanya? Simple logic lang isip isip minsan.
nung unang panahon po araw araw ang pagsamba ng mga kapatid sa unang iglesia dahil sa pagsubok na kanilang pinag dadaana at ung tanung nio po e ung sa lahat ndi po makikita ang diyos dahil sia ay espirito ang kautusan po lahat ay nakabatay sa biblia .. maraming salamat po
Kaya nga hindi nyo sinusunod ang mga utos ng Dios na nakabatay sa Biblia.. Sunday kayu eh, at hindi ninyo binigyang kabanalang ang Araw na si Cristo ay Panginoon (Mark 2.28; Ex. 20.10; Isa. 58.13,14; Rev. 1.10), so hindi yan dapat "IGLESIA NI CRISTO" dapat jan, "IGLESIA NI MANALO." Ang Dios ay ang Salita (Juan 1.1) at ang Salita ay naging katawan (Juan 1.14; 1Tim 3.16), so Ang Dios na Salita ay naging Tao, si Cristo yan, Dios na Salita at Naging Tao. Siya ang tunay na Dios (1Juan 5.20). At tama ka, ang Dios espirito (Juan 4.24), at Si Cristo ay Espiritu na naging Tao (Luke 1.35). "Bababa sa iyo ang BANAL NA ESPPIRITU, at liliman ka ng Kapanhyarihan ng Kataastaasan: kaya naman ANG BANAL NA IPANGANGANAK ay tatawaging "Anak ng DIOS" (OR SPIRIT REBORN). Sa hindi pa naging katawang tao ang Verba, Siya ay Banal na Espiritu. At Siya ay Dios (Juan 1.1).
@@ricardovillasjr1792 tama ka nga nman pero d mo lng nalaman kc n tinuro ng Dios n sabado nyo gawin yan pgsamba s knyang church pero s labas araw araw. Basahin nyo kc Exodo 20 at hangang s new testament. Kht nga c Jesus tuwing sabbath din nman.
May mga tao pa lang kulang sa common sense. Hahahaha. Why do you interpret bible verses literally po? Wag kayong close minded please. Magaling lang kayong tumira sa pampersonal na katauhan. Kahit alam nyo naman kung ano talaga ang tama, why do you chose na mag paiwan sa nakasanayan nyong pinapaniwalaan. I can say na ang SDA sinasabi lang kung ano ang katotohanan about day of rest. Magising naman po kayo hahaha. Alam nyo naman talaga san ang tama jan. Study hard sa bible guys. Wag mag depend sa mga tinuturo ng katulad nyong TAO rin. Maawa kayo sa sarili nyo.
Dolores Hormachuelos Dapat talaga eh, tau mismo ang mag aral ng bible, hindi yong naniniwala na kaagad tayo sa mga kung anong tinuturo ng ministro sa atin! Why we don't try to look and find it for ourselves?
Well kasi naman naniwala kayo sa ministro ng inc. eh hindi mga kayo pinagdadala at pinagbabasa ng Bible. Ang paniniwala nyo Christ is tao lang eh turo ng demonyo yun. Saka founder nyo dating SDA. Tumiwalag dahil.may ginawang kalokohan. Taga dto yan sa amin sa Malolos, Bulacan
Wa pay kwarta ang INC kay wa pakahatag ang mga myembro sa abuloy
Hahahaha NASA Kay Manalo ANG kwarta
Sda po ako dati tas na convert ako s born again.. Then now sa matagal kong pagsasaliksik ang inc ang tunay na may dla ng tunay na aral.. Dhil din sa tunay na pag kakilala sa panginoong jesu cristo
Kulang ang unawa mo
Nako isapa pang walang alam..hahha
ah? tao nga si Christo sa INC paano kayo naligtas ng tao?
Bugok ka lang. Palipat lioat ng relihiyon. Walang kang prinsipyo
@@philippinedashcamcctv5222 Tao nga Ang Cristo na magligtas SA Iglesia Niya, wala rin SA biblia na ang sabbath iligtas ni cristo
Ellen White
"In the presentation of unpopular truth, which involves a heavy cross, preachers should be careful that every word is as God would have it. THEIR WORDS SHOULD NEVER CUT. They should present the truth in humility, with the deepest love for souls and an earnest desire for their salvation, and LET THE TRUTH CUT. They should not defy ministers of other denominations and seek to provoke a debate. They should not stand in a position like that of Goliath when he defied the armies of Israel. Israel did not defy Goliath, but Goliath made his proud boasts against God and His people. The defying, the boasting, and the railing must come from the opposers of truth, who act the Goliath. But none of this spirit should be seen in those whom God has sent forth to proclaim the last message of warning to a doomed world." 3T 218.1
The SDA minister is a good debater, the other one is amateurish. Villaver was quick to detect the weakness of the arguments of the INC minister. The best explanation of the INC minister is his long-drawn voice, but he cannot prove his allegation within the theme. This forcing of voice is characteristic of every INC minister to captivate less intellectual audience. Hence, their multitudes of uncritical thinkers from the justices down to the common citizen. The weakness of Villaver is his frequent preempts during the dabate, yet he does it to clarify further what is blurred due to the preaching-style of the INC minister. Preaching is not debating. I think the INC minister must hone his skills for debate. The publicity of INC is external pageantries, from their church designs to their frigid way of worship. But I have noticed that when the members go to church they get inside without bringing their Bibles. They all depend their scripture interpretation from ministers who are themselves incompetent when it comes to hermeneutics. There was a young upstart minister who came to me to give a Bible study. That was the first time he saw me. Guess what. Knowing I am a Seventh-day Adventist he immediately took his Bible and proved to me that Jesus is not god, and that with other texts. I gave him 1John 5.20; John 1.1-14; John 8:24,58; Isa. 9.6; Hebrews 1.6-8, and he cannot frame a correct answer except what are found in their doctrinal booklet written by Felix Manalo, to which, when I read, I immediately laugh. I was surprised that even Manalo could be so idiot as not to give a correct interpretation or explain a Bible verse that is within the context. Let me bring your attention to the creed of the INC. There are so many negative statements in it. The word "firmly" "only" suggest some brainwashing.
Zerkse Garcia
Yes thats true!
Mga debatido ng INC lumalakas boses para makuha ang atensyon ng mga tao, pero d namn nila eni explain ng maayos! ..iba pag pera2 na..
Let me add. The INC are a little less than the Roman church when it comes to pageantries and externals. But when it comes to doctrines, there is nothing in it. Yes it is true that an element of fear pervades both within INC, roman church, and the SDA church as well. The SDA church is not exempt in sharing wrong doctrines and sentiments from Rome just like the fear produced in the judgment and hell. Why? They do not appreciate their own 1888 message sent to them by A.T. Jones and E.J. Waggoner, and endorsed by Ellen G. White. Most of the SDA members are legalist, that's true, because they are ignorant about the 1888 message. This ignorance extends to their theologians in almost all SDA institutions who try to suppress the 1888 message, as a result, they have the theology of faith plus works, or faith and works, instead of faithfulness alone, as "the righteous, by his faithfulness/steadiness, he can survive" (Habakkuk 2.4; Romans 1.17; Galatians 3.11; Hebrews 10.38,39). The 1888 message of the SDA church is the third angel's message in verity. It is NOT the same as the Protestants' justification by faith. The 1888 message is uniquely Seventh-day Adventist. It involves the understanding that Christ's human nature is sinful like the rest of the fallen humanity; and in that sinful nature He overcame sin. This implies that we can and we ought to to the same and accomplish the same perfection Christ did, even in this lifetime, and that perfection and sinlessness can be achieved and must be achieved in this side of existence, just as Christ did. It also involves the understanding that Christ's atonement at the cross was only Sacrificial, and NOT final. The final atonement happened and continues until now since 1844. We must cooperate with Christ work of blotting out of sin by stopping the sins from the very springs of our own hearts which flows into the heavenly Sanctuary to pollute that Sanctuary. We must stop sinning now and forever. Or else Christ cannot finish His work in that sanctuary and we will be staying in this wilderness for too long. It is only after Christ's image will be fully reproduced among His people that He will come to claim them as His own. Until this happens, He will not come, and we will remain for too long in this planet until we grow old and die. Do not image that Christ's coming is very near. No it is not. It is still very far due to our insobordination and rebellion. He wants to take us home as soon as possible, but we do not cooperate with Him. It is in our power to hasten His coming and not just to prepare for it (See 2Peter 3.12).
Ang MAINGAY LANG DITO ANG DEBATER NG SDA. PERIOD!
Ang MAINGAY LANG DITO ANG MINISTER NG SDA,...WALA NAMAN NAPATUNAYAN ITONG MAINGAY NA MATABANG MANGANGARAL NYO NA SILA ANG TOTOONG RELIHIYON. PAANO BEST NA DEBATER YAN?
WALA PA PALA ANG MODERATOR, HINDI PALA NAIAYOS NG TAGA SDA ANG MAGANDANG SISTEMA NG FORMAL DEBATE, KAYA PALA MAINGAY LANG ANG MANGANGARAL NYO, WALA NAMAN PALANG MAPATUTUNAYAN MULA S BIBLIA ANG PANGALAN NG TUNAY NA IGLESIA AY SEVENDAY ADVENTIST
God bless ,,,,lahat tayo may ibat ibang paniniwala kaya kailangan natin respituhin bawat rehiyon ng bawat isat
Para sa mga nag comment nga mangwartahay daw ang s.d.a hoy for your information ha ang mga I.n.c bakakon giod ,kay sa wala pa sila mag debate nagsabot ang s.d.a og inc nga kinahanglan dili ma late onya ni sugot man ang inc ,pero pag abut sa panahon nga mag debate na nagpa nganong nagpa late2 man sila? Onya kamong mga nag comment og pataka nganong sege pamog pataka?
Saan nakasulat sa Bible na irespeto ang ibat ibang religion?
Much ang salapi nga ang Mc na ito kht na sabhin pa na may pinirmhan.
NG unit kinakailngan Paton na mag gy galang kc sumupot nmn cla.
Ang sabhin MO Mc wala kayong Pera kya gnyan ang trato MO sa Inc.
win SDA true Sabbath Keeper!
daghan wala na tubag ang INC
Tama naman ang sda iyan ang rules pag hindi sumipot !
Oo nga promise is a promise dapat sumipot
Tuloy dapat ang debate sumipot naman pala.
2017 debate inc vs sda ang pinirmahan 1 30pm pero dumating ang inc late walang word of honor magbabayad ang inc ng 5k multa sa barangay captain
Mulat simula ang Dios ay hindi pumahinga hanggang ngayon sabi ni Cristo (Juan 5:17) . Ang araw ng pamahinga ay darating kayat bantayan natin ang ating sarili upang makasama tayo sa Dios at ni Cristo sa kanyang kapahingahan sa langit (HEBREO 4:1,6,9-10).
Ang INC nangopya lang sa Domingo sa RCC.
1.) “Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did, happened in the first century. The holy day, the Sabbath, was changed from Saturday to Sunday. ‘The day of the Lord’ was chosen, not from any direction noted in the Scriptures, but from the (Catholic) Church’s sense of its own power…People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become 7th Day Adventists, and keep Saturday holy.” - St. Catherine Church Sentinel, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995.
2.) "St John speaks of the Lord’s day (Rev 1:10) but he does not tell us what day of the week that was, much less does he tell us what day was to take the place of the Sabbath ordained in the commandments. St. Luke speaks of the disciples meeting together to break bread on the first day of the week. Acts 20:7. And St. Paul (1 Cor.16:2) orders that on the first day of the week the Corinthians should lay in store what they designated to bestow in charity on the faithful in Judea: but neither the one or the other tells us that this first day of the week was to be henceforth a day of worship, and the Christian Sabbath..." Catholic Christian Instructed, 17th edition, p. 272-273
What are written in the Bible about the Sabbath:
O Exo. 20:10 --The strangers (Strong's # 1616, Hebrew Concordance --wə•ḡê•rə•ḵā = aliens, sojourners, foreigners ) are forbidden to work in the Sabbath.
O Isa. 56:2-7-- The foreigners, or gentiles, are included in the Sabbath keeping.
O Mark 2:28 -- the Sabbath is made for man, (not Jew).
O Matt. 24:20 “And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.” The “flight” is about the Great Tribulation, a prophesied event just before the coming of Christ. The Sabbath or winter will hinder the fleeing of true Christians. This is a proof Christ is expecting His followers are still keeping the Sabbath.
O Acts 13:44 “On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.” Gentiles included. If Sabbath was not commanded in the NT, then why were they assembling together on the Sabbath?
Matt. 5:17-19 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
Para ni sa mga MIGHTY DEBATERS, kagaya sa INC, very confident?
Are truths in religious debate the absolute truths? Read the story below to find out.
A judge had acquitted a snatcher, who stole an expensive Rolex watch, for lack of evidence. The snatcher did not understand well the judge who spoke in English. So he clarified his attorney:
“Attorney,” the snatcher asked. “What has the judge said? I am already free? Does he meant I have to return the Rolex watch I stole and hid in our house? ”
The lawyer answered back: “Are you stupid? If you tell the truth, you will be put back to prison. Just be quiet.”
Another: A lawyer was sued for child support. At that time there was not yet a DNA test to prove paternity, so the case lingered on. The lawyer could not be pinned down because he was an expert debater. The girl grew up and became a striking resemblance of his supposed to be father. The case dragged on.
After years the judge said: “Look, pañero. She is your carbon copy. Just accept her.” The father accepted the daughter but not because he was defeated.
Therefore, by the cunning manipulation of words, men could hide the truths.
God has these words for debaters.
1 Cor. 1:19-20 "For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? "
Prudent: Strong’s Greek 4908 = sunetos- “bias discernment or understanding apart from the faith of God."
Wise: Strong’s Greek 4680 = Sophos “clever, learned, skilled”
Scribe: Strong’s Greek # 1122= grammateus-where the English “grammar” comes, meaning a learned man, skilled in religious law."
Disputer: Strong’s Greek 4804 =suzététés- "mighty debaters, fierce and sounding off impressive, master in philosophy and religion."
Questions?
Who is the debater here who is mighty in grammar, fierce and sounding off very impressive but has the bias in discernment of the laws of God.
Whose doctrine is sunday worship?
Answer: Doctrine of man not of God.
Christ’s words:
“My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority. He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him,” John 7: 16-18.
Matt. 5:8-9 “These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.”
Paul commands:
1 Cor.11: “Imitate me, just as I also imitate” Christ.
Acts 17:2 Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures."
Luke 4:16 “ So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.”
Paul was a seventh day Sabbath keeper. Christ was a Sabbath keeper.
2 Cor. 5: 10 “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”
If we will be asked individually why we keep the Sunday, a commandment of man, and not the seventh day Sabbath, the commandment of God, what should we answer?
Will the INC answer your sins?
Christ is a fair judge. He will give each one a fair chance.
The INC and RCC will debate mightily, like the Pharisees did. They will fall.
Matt. 21: 42, 44 “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone… And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.”
Daniel, one of the Hebrews’ finest prophets, had these words.
Dan. 12: 10 “Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.”
Those who do not understand the words of God will do wickedly and they will not understand. But the wise shall understand.
The SDA are wise. They do not oppose God’s commandments. They obey not the traditions or commandments of man.
BASIC RULES HIRAP UNAWAIN...I GO WITH THE MODERATOR HE'S CORRECT..PALABRA DE HONOR..
LAHAT NG TANONG NG SDA NASAGOT NG MALINAW NG INC.
PANIS PALA ITONG SI SDA KAY TATAY MINISTRO.LUFET😊
Lol anong panis. Kayo nga ang panis. Think think.muna
@@dongtv_chanel1682 totoo naman brod panis tlga ang SDA sa INC kita mo nman showdown nila diba?
@@dongtv_chanel1682 bulag kaba
@@dongtv_chanel1682 pasalamat kayo hindi debatistang ministro hinarap jan.
Mitabang na ug pamatuod ang INC, TAPOS mag Supak Supak
Bakit galit Ang mga Judio sa Panginoong Jesus?, Simply because he break the law of Sabbath 😁
Iba kasi Brod ang pagkakaintindi ng mga Jews sa Sabbath...
ang ministro sa inc ang nag buot sa rules! unya sila ang mo guba? pastilan!..
Kahit kailan hindi sumisira ng rules ang INC kung kaunting late lang di panggigiba iyan sa aral ng biblia dapat tingnan ang pagsira ng sda padtor na turo na binasa ng ministro sa biblia na hindi nga nangilin si Crusto sa Sabbath,dahil psla ang kapistahang Sabbath sa panahon nila noon ag nagdudulot ng mga kaguluhan sa mga tao noon kaya pala pinatigil na ng Diyos ang Sabbath.At ang nag papapatay pala kay Cristo na ipako sa krus ay mga taong naniniwala at nangingilin ng Sabbath .Kadi hindi nga sumunod nangilin si Cristo pinapapataya nila ito.Hindi ba ito makuhakuha ng mg sda members at pastors itinuturo parin nila hanggang ngayon?Para lang pala sa mga Isrealita ang Sabbath noon di na aplikable sa oanahon ni Cristo,kaya hindi nangilin si Cristo ng Sabbath nilabag niya ito.
Gabuwa buwa mnang baba anang pastor sa sda..gatoo kaha Sya og magubot diha mahitsura sya.ga sigeg pang gulat!!
nabuang na ang Iglesia ni Cristo kuno nga gitukod ni Manalo. Pati walay labot sa debate musingit na. Unya kung saktog paminsar ng ministro ninyo dapat insaktong oras musipot siya. mao gani naay kasabotan.
Magaling ang sda debater ng sda !
kahit anong Sunday-keeping Christian Churches hindi kayang tibagin ang SDA. Utos ng panginoon ang Sabbath at ito ay dapat sundin. Wag ung utos ng tao na Sunday. Sino ba ang ifollow ang utos ng Diyos na Saturday o utos ng tao na Sunday.
sabbath day is not mean sabado na day it is rest day
sabbath day 2 kinds of meaning
Exodus 20:8 basahin mo. para ma linawagan ka.
binasa ko nayan tuturoan kita magbasa ka ng histry ng mga jewish people okay search the language being used try to find out to the encyclopedia etc and read more on the bible
@@DO-sr8jw . rest day lang ba ang ibig sabihin ng sabbath. Ang sabbath na nasa Sampung Utos, anong araw ang kaparehas sa ngayon.
talo ang SDA hahahaha hindi sumasagot sa tanong :D
Unsay ipasabot sa taga INC. kay ang kasabotan nag ingon nga mag penalty ug 5t kung dili mutunga sa maong " ADLAW " . Buot ba ipasabot nga pwde ra sila mutunga ug 5pm basta anang ADLAWA ? Haha ! Abi namu strikto ang INC sa oras ky sirad-an man gani ilang simbahan ug DILI NA KASULOD ANG MA LATE !
Nakasabot man ka siguro no?. Ang Rules sa Debate magsisimula ang Debate kapag kompleto na ang Staff (specialty ang TIMER og MODERATOR)
Na ni abot ang INC pero wala pa ang Moderator, kaya hnd kasalanan ng INC na hnd nagsimula ng maaga ang Debate kasi wala pa man ang Moderator, niabot ang moderator ulahi na.....
Tan awa ang Video nga buo bag-o ka mag Comment brod
mukang pera ang MC, may point naman sya pero hindi naman dpat ganyan ang pagsasalita nya masyadong bastos.
Tama bro👍
SDA is true church of god😉
Capital "G" sister...😊
WINNER = SDA; loser (PILDI)= INC.
Ang pangutana sa INC kanusa daw gisugo ug kinsa daw ang gisugo sa diyos klaro kaayo nga wa ga basa ug bibliya ni 🤦♀️🤦♀️
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Oo nga nagbabasa ang sda ng biblia pero di parin lubusang nakakaunawa sa aral ng biblia.Buti pa si Moises panahon niya sinunod nila ang Sabbath kay Moises.Pero katakataka si Cristo mismo di nila sinusunod ang hindi na mangilin ng Sabbath oinatigil na pala iyan ng Diyos dahil nagdudulit ng kaguluhang piyesta ng Sabbath.Ibig sabihin di nakakaunawa ng lubos sa biblia ang mga sda?
Tan-awa ra ning sda sa iyang cross exam sa inc. Bastos ang terada. Panahon pa sa pag tubag mo sapae man. Bastos kaayo unya mag buot sa tubag.
Kay dili katubag ang inc14, layo kaayo ang tubag sa inc unya nahuman ang debate wala gyud maka rebutt amg pastor sa inc naabot pa sa arka ni noe 😂😂😂
@Rennie Flores Kay di man katubag injo ministro,mangutana na hinoon mahitungod sa arka no noeh,naunsa!alangan tubagon nga gawas sa tema..hahaha Ang pinakabastos jud ang ministro sa inc nga tambokikoy,moilog nmn microphone hahaha,way salig!
Sakto mn GD Ang SDA..kini pong Inc dili pod kamao oiii...mangutana ang Inc tubagon sa sda..kini pong Inc Kay dili man Niya pamation Ang SDA..nga sakto man konta Ang sda
Asa dapita nga SAKTO ang SDA brod pwd ba mahibaw-an?????
Ky ang klaro diri na KNOCK-OUT ang SDA sa showdown nila batok INC..mao nay klaro diria..
Hahahahaaaaayyyy ang mga sulpot nag debate 😁😄😃🤣😂😭😢😆 INComplete walay palabra de honor. Way klaro ni Mini-$tro.
Main point sa intro, sila nag set ng rules sa SDA, so binalikan siya ni Pastor Villaver.
Ang SDA jud PANGWARTA kaayo WAHAHAHA Nawong ug Kwarta😂😂
Lol . Rules is rules.
@@dongtv_chanel1682 bugo ka,! mobayad ang dili mosipot sa adlaw, wala gisulti na ang maulahi sa oras. klaro kaayo pangwarta. minhoy iyang ulo walay 5k.
10% pa more
Ayaw pag binugo.. Kay inyong ministro ang naghagit hagit ayaw ipahid ang Sala sa uban.. dili Para sa sda ang bayad Para sa baranggay.. paminaw ug tarong ayaw pag tanga tanga..
MOSES LAW vs. GOD'S LAW
COMPARE below Moses Law (ceremonial law) vs.
God's Ten Commandment Law (moral law)
MANY people often confuse Moses Law with God's Ten Commandment Law, but they are very different.
Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament.
Pls check the difference below:
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1. Called
MOSES LAW (ceremonial law)
Called "Law contained in ordinances"
EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.
TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law)
Called "the Royal law"
JAMES 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
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2. Written
MOSES LAW (ceremonial law)
Written by Moses in a book
2 CHRON. 35:12 And they removed the burnt offerings, that they might give according to the divisions of the families of the people, to offer unto the LORD, as it is written in the book of Moses. And so did they with the oxen.
TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law)
Written by God on stone
EXO. 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
EXO. 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables
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3. Placed
MOSES LAW (ceremonial law)
Placed in the side of the ark
DEUT. 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law)
Placed inside the ark
EXO. 40:20 And he took and put the testimony into the ark, and set the staves on the ark, and put the mercy seat above upon the ark:
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4. Ended / Stand Forever
MOSES LAW (ceremonial law)
Ended at the cross
EPH. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.
TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law)
Will stand forever
LUKE 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
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5. Added / Points out sin
MOSES LAW (ceremonial law)
Added because of sin
GAL. 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law)
Points out sin
ROM. 7:7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
ROM. 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
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6. Contrary / Not grievous
MOSES LAW (ceremonial law)
Contrary to us, against us
COL. 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.
TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law)
Not grievous
1 JOHN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
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7. Judges
MOSES LAW (ceremonial law)
Judges no man
COL. 2:14-16 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law)
Judges all men
JAM. 2:10-12 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
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8. Carnal / Spiritual
MOSES LAW (ceremonial law)
Carnal
HEB. 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law)
Spiritual
ROM. 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
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9. Nothing Perfect / Perfect
MOSES LAW (ceremonial law)
Made nothing perfect
HEB. 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
TEN COMMANDMENTS (moral law)
Perfect
PSALMS 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
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Source : www.preparingforeternity.com/mosevs10.htm
COMPARE below Moses Law vs.
God's Ten Commandment Law
MANY people often confuse Moses Law with God's Ten Commandment Law, but they are very different.
Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. It regulated the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, meat and drink offerings, etc., all of which foreshadowed the cross. This law was added "till the seed should come," and that seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16, 19). The ritual and ceremony of Moses' law pointed forward to Christ's sacrifice. When He died, this law came to an end, but the Ten Commandments (God's law) "stand fast for ever and ever." Psalm 111:7,8.
There are two laws that are made crystal clear in the following verses below. Daniel 9:10 is talking about God's law and verse 11 is talking about Moses' law:
"Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets."
"Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him." Daniel 9:10,11
Special Note: Please note that God's law also called the 10 Commandments has existed at least as long as sin has existed. The Bible says, "Where no law is, there is no transgression [or sin]." Romans 4:15. So God's Ten Commandment law existed from the beginning. Men broke that law. "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4 Because of sin (or breaking God's law), Moses law was given (or "added" Galatians 3:16, 19) till Christ should come and die. Two separate laws involved: God's law or 10 Commandments and Moses Law.
Isa din tong ogok na to Moses law daw at Gods law hahahaha pinag ontog nya Ang talata halatang di nag babasa Ang ten commandments na sinasabi mong Moses law sa panginoon Yan galing panginoon Ang nag utos Kay Moses Nyan na Sabi Yan Ang mga kautusan na ipatupad mo sa mga taong sraelita
Halatang dika sumusonod sa kautosan ng pinapasunod ng panginoon kung sabagay eh suwail kayo sa kautusan lalo ng Ang pag sunod ng ten commandments
All Sunday-keeping churches are the same, whether they are Evangelical harlots or INC, or Jehovah's Witnesses. These are not the churches christ had built. They came from Rome and go back to Rome.
Ang bastos ng pastor ng SDA. Ginawang cheap ang debate.
Ang gulo naman , mura nag palengke, mga nawong kwarta ang baranggay
Ganahan kog maminaw ba, lingaw gyud ko ani amen SDA,
Nagka buli2 Inc naug nalang diha kay pildi naka wala kay mabasa
hnd ko naiintindihan ung salita. pero laging sagot ng SDA wala sa tema. hnd ba kayang sagutin? pansinin nio. kung tlgng tunay ang isang relehiyon dapat bawat tanung kaya mong sagutin. bkt hnd masagot? kc mahahalata. mahahalatang nag ssinungaling xa pag sinagot nia un. kc sa ttoo lng ung tanong hnd nmn malayo sa tema ung tanung ee. andun din ung tanung. ayaw lng sagutin. saliksikin nio mabuti.
talagang ganyan bro, upang hindi lalayo sa tema,, ibang explaination kasi yan.. kung baga sa parliamentary procedure,, ouit of order yan kaya di pwedeng i entertain..
Hanggang ngayun di parin nakita nang mga INC ang verse na di nagsugo ang Dios! Haha
ang boring nmn mgsalita ang iglesia ni kristo ang layo ng mga sinasabi hndi maliwanag kung anu b tlga ang topic
hahahaha boring
Boring naman sa INC ... tignan nyo ulit wala masyadung nakikinig... pero SDA na mag salita halos .... tahimik lahat.😅😅
Bastos nga pastor sa sda..
Wala sa tema ang pangutana sa SDA.
Di mamati ang tambok nga SDA.
Dili lang mgmatigas ang atong mga kasing kasing,ato jud pangitaon ang kamatuoran ky kitangbtanan nangandoy nga maluwas,pero dili na na makabt ot kong dili nato pangitaon ang matuod nga pgsunod ni Kristo
Tama kung ang tao naghahangad ng kaligtasan ng kaniyang kaluluwa hanapin saliksikin ang tunay na Iglesia na nasusulat sa bansl na aklat.
Kawawa tlaga itong SDA ang hilig ng SHOWDOWN...ngunit ng mabasa ng INC hahaha bumaba nagpalit ng damit sa sobrang pgkapahiya...
Akala cguro ni mr.showdown walang mabasa..shock! Sya ng mabasa ng INC kya ayon TkO...hahahaha
Yabang pa more...
Ahaha walang pirma,, kawawa ang inc 😆
@@alladenmandaan8959 hahaha my bobo'ng nag comment pala dito psssttt....0o ikaw alladen bogo'K hehehe
( FYi ) Hindi kylangan ang perma kc formality palusot lng yun...ang Mahalaga napatunayan ng INC na my mababasa tlga sa biblia akala kc ng SDA walang mabasa kya ayaaann...semple
Lng naTkO tuloy sa showdown kaung mga
LOSSER na SDA😢😢
pataka man lang pod utro pagsabot sa
ministro sa INC SA OSEAS 2:11,SA CONTEXTO ana,,mao na nga gipahunong kay naulipon cla sa taga laing nasud kay mga pagano man ang nag ulipon kanila,mao nga andios nagapahinumdom perme sa pagbantay sa adlawa igpapahulay sa ilang paggawas gikan sa ilang pagkaulipon.mao na ang sakto dha sa oseas2;11
Wala jud makarebutt ang inc, tanan gigamit sa inc14 gerebutt ni brother villaver
to those watching this vid makita na ninyo kung naa ba silay spirit sa GINOO. Sos both bastos man debate sa scrptures sana peru bakit ganyan?
Haha pariha ra na 2 nga ngdebate pro nangangkon nga sila maoi tinuod, pro pro sila skater nangakon nga ila ang yuta ang ilang gibarugan pro wai documento nga ilaha ang yuta mai na sila nangiskwat lng
Strikto ang eglesya sa simbahan nila kailangan on time unya sa debate ma late
Ok lang naman malate di naman pagsamba talaga iyan.Ang importante nakaabot at nakarating.Period,tuloy ang debate nalang.
You will catch the fish by the mouth.
Ang INC debater murag dili converted Kristiyano. Kulang humility, mercy and love.
Maayo sa debate pero kulang sa application sa Holy Spirit, Gal. 5:22-23.
1 Cor. 13: 1- 2 "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing."
The INC is a sounding brass.
Mao ni daghan maayo sa debate pero mga kulang sa application sa unsay tinudanay nga kinabuhing Kristohanon.
Para sa INC debater:
James 2:5 "Listen, my beloved brethren: Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?"
Christ said if you love me, keep my commandments, John 14:15, 1 John 5:3.
Unta mabasahan ni sa INC debater. Keep God's commandments, specially the love of your fellow Christian.
Nakikita mo naman siguro na sa umpisa sino ba ang Mayabang magsalita? Sino ba ang Uma astang Mayabang diba yung SDA??
Klaro man diba?
Dapat lang mag penalty ky maoy kasabutan! For ur information sa mga nag comment nga mukhang kwarta ang SDA, " FOR BRGY FUND PRUPOSES " na padulong ang penalty... Ayaw pataka ug comment ug WALA KA KASAYUD !
JM MIFRANUM lol.. brgy fund?? dli jd. kay bcn gatou sila nga walay dala na budget ang pastor sa sda para dli ma daun ang debate para d sila mapildi.. #INCpamore
paminaw lang
Lang ibang pangilin ang iniutos ng Dios kundi ang aeaw ng Sabbath wag nyo pagmatigasin ang puso nyo mga INC
Ang utos ng sabbath sa Israelita lamang pinasunod niyan kaya si Cristo hindi na applikable sa panahin ni Cristo,kailan man di nangilin si Cristo ng Sabbath.
na unsa nman intawn na ang inc oy usab pap
The moderator has failed to perform his duties..... kulang sa control
Lagi gisagda sa moderator. Ang bastos na sda. Tarong ang ste sa inc. Ang sa sda trick ang gamit.
mas bastos ang ministro sa INC kanang tambok kay miilog nas microphone bisan dili maoy nkapirma sa debate,Ang debatidor noon wa na katingog..style na sa INC basta dehado sa katarungan.
Mu ingon gihapon sya nga wla mabasa. Dili man kinahanglan nga ma basa atleast naa masabot nahimong dulomtanan sa ginoo ang adlawng ipag pahulay. D na kinahanglan nga mabsa nga ang ginoo mag sugo nga undangon na ang adlawng ipagpahulay. Mag pa tala2 ning sda. Mào nay ilang trick pa tala2. Nga klaro nga masabot mag binulok.
Wah ka kasabot
hahahaha si villaver dili makasabot sa iya gipirmahan wala sa sabot kung ma late magbayad ug 5k nagbuotbuot si villaver hahahhaa
hahaha mao jud , sge ra ug hisgot sa penalty unya hambugero pa jud kaayo ..
tama man si villaver. late jud mo. ug mao nay sabot na kung dili musipot ana na oras mubayad ug 5k, so what is your definition of late? late is equivalent to not attending on that exact time. Dili pwede mag binugo diri. Dili ta mga unggoy.
ratzlaff does not understand what is 1888 adventism
Kung kasugakod sa debati inyong pastor dapat walay kwartahay..klaro kaau nahadlok ang sda pastor.
Weeeeehhhh
very good Jud kaau pastor V
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Very Good ang inyong pastor sa SDA nga mag Oban sila ni Eli Soriano sa ADD kay pareho ilahang Dila..."PASTILAN" ok lang ba sa Pastor ang pareho ana? sa mga SDA, if you can find the "Seventh day Adventist Church" in the Bible,I'll Join your Church This Saturday. please answer my request.thank you.
Nonelon Bucayan tama ka kapatid
Please inform me if the name "Iglesia ni Cristo" is also in the original Greek, and I will join your church this Sunday. Promise. Do not give me the Lamsa Translation because it was not supported by the majority of manuscripts. I want the Greek one. If it's in the Aramaic, be sure it's accurate. And I will renounce Seventh-day Adventism and go to church always on Sunday, NOT on God's Sabbath day. You may find that in Romans 16.16 and Acts 20.28, but be sure it is authentic and precise.
Zerkse Garcia ahh so takot ka sa lamsa !!!! hahaha kawawa namn kayo, hindi yan amin na lebro hahaha takot kayo kay lamsa sa wakas inamin din ninyo na kayo ay natakot sa salin ni lamsa. hahaha kawawa
Strick kaayo pag ma late ka sa ilang pagsamba dili naka kasulod ...Kay sarad..an naka.pero diha late sila dili motuman sa pinirmahan .....nindot mankaha na ila Ang simbahan murag mansyon sa 5k lng Ang penalty dili ka bayad mga hambogero raba kaayo I'm experienced ko ani nila .....church of demons man siguro sila
The most hated religion nko na iglesia ni kulto 😂
La moy dag-anan basta sda ang ka dbati. Kay ilang trick modagan dayon ni sila nga ang pangutana o ang tubag wala sa tema. Dili man tanan nga imong planong ipangutana isulod sa tema. Grabi silag style. Asay maayo sundugon pud ninyo ang style nila ba. Gamay na ligas ingnon dayon nga wala pud sa tema aron ma bawsan sad sila.
Ang aral ng sda sa totoo lang ay masalimoot hindi crystal clear.Sa dulo ng videong ito ang sda pastor ay nagdudulot ng pagkakalito at kahibiyan at nilapastangan pa ang Panginoong Jesucristo.Ito ba pinagmamalaki ni yong debater,lapastangan kay Cristo?Grabe naman hindi na nahiya ang sda pastor sa mga nanonood,maging kay Cristo at sa Diyos?Lapastangang sda pastor.ISAIAS 41 : 11-13.
nan daya na si SDA sa garden daw sa eden ...asa mabasa nga eden to wala may lugar nga gi hisgutan
Nag debate pa nga ang magkaiba ang paniniwala. Mag kakasundo ba yan
debate is not good to a christian people.
Alam niya na wala siyang binatbat kaya namera na lang hahaha
Hahahaha Hindi Pera Ang isyo ditu pre kaluluwa doctrina at kaligtasan paano Kasi pa maang maangan lang kayo sa katotohanan kahit Mali sinasang ayonan nyo
Mag minaro pud ning sda. Mirag mag patuo na maayo na silang mga sda sa debate. Sa debate lagi sa modrator na tangaon pud. Ma butang syag walay pangutok. Klaro kaayo nga masabot nga gi undang na ang celebrations sa adlawng ipagpahulay sa panahon sa judio. Iya pajud pangitaon nga mabasa ba nga ginoo nag sugo na pa undangon na ang ilang adlaw ipagpahulay sa judio. Maru kaayo. K ra ang minaru dili pahalata, halata kaayo.
Bugo ka pagbasa usa og bible og sabta maayo ang texto aron ka maka hibaw wala paman kay alam dako raman nang ulo mo patuyang rakag comment da
I wish someone could tell me what they are saying in English. what is it about. and what is INC?
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search for incmedia.org
Valerie, If you want to know what INC is, go to James White and Joe Ventilacion debate on RUclips. It is done in English Also Ethan Smith does a lot of post on them.
Here is a free ebook on Sabbath. Click on the link then email for the list of books.
www.lifeassuranceministries.com/spanishbooks.html then email Dale@ratzlaf.com for book.
We have a few INC member in the State, Not see them in Jamaica yet.
INC mean Church of Christ, but not the Church of Christ you know. They are considered cultic in doctrine just as Adventist and Jehovah Witness. At least Adventist debate them, but in Jamaica, Adventist runs away from debates.
We are educating INC on Adventist other teachings to make Adventist look at Ellen false teaching and errors in SDA teaching.
INC Iglesia Ni Cristo.. you can search about Church of Christ at incmedia.org and you can learn more about it..i hope it would be help..thank you.
Korek jod kaayo ang mga sda.nagsunod jod sa kamatuoran.💯
Asa dapita nga korek brod? ky murag wala koy nakitang KOREK sa SDA ginawa lng ng pastor nagyabang yabangan at naghamon ng showdown sa INC ngunit ng binasahan sya ng talata ng INC ayon...na TkO c pastor showdown yun kc ang klaro dito brod..
ikaw pwd mo e korek
Oh really???
tamanga nga nman,kung ikw,taong kausap,bakit dimo, matupad magbayad,eh my perma nman sila,na magbayad kung di dumating sa tamang oras.
Wala pa gani moderator niabot ka tinalawan ba ana oi
INC Late...Agoy!!!
Naku sablay na sablay nga ehh.....sa 1:30 pa lamg sablay na nga...paano na kaya sa Debate na about sa Sabbath Day kung alin ba talaga??😁😁
Napatunayan ng INC na hindi na nangilin si Cristo sa Sabbath pinatigil na pala ng Diyos dahi nagbinigay ng kaguluhan sa panahon nila ang ouyesta ng Sabbath,kaya si Cristo di nangilin kaya pinapapatay ng mga taong nangingilin ng Sabbath?Dahil hindi si Cristo nangilin ng Sabbath?kaya pinapaoatay siya.
Basis for INC in the Bible???
1) Romans 16.16 - but the words are in the plural "churches of Christ" so palpak agad.
2) Acts 20.28 -the original is "TEN EKKLESIAN TOU THEO, HEN PERIEPOIESATO DIA AIMATOS TOU IDIOU" (the assembly of God which He purchased with the blood of His Own). No "iglesia ni Cristo" there, no church of christ. And if in some manuscripts it says, "church of the Lord" the Kurios (Lord) here meant Yahweh. So one must be forced to accept that Jesus is Yahweh if your "lord" mean the One who is Lord known to the prophets and apostles who is none other than Yahweh. Another slap on INC who do not believe that Christ is Yahweh, the God of gods and Lord of lords.
3) If you name your church "IGLESIA NI CRISTO" just because it's there in the Bible, do you think I'm a fool to join in something just because it carries a name? Well, there are many churches who carries the same name "church of Christ" along with the Philippines UCCP (United Church of Christ in the Philippines) which is older than INC. I for myself can start my own church and then name it "church of christ" and then get as many people to believe that my church is true because it's in the Bible. But that's stupid argument. A) A name has no logical significance, - for example, the name of a shampoo is "Rejoice". Does it mean that when I used it I will rejoice? Hahahaha. Another example is the family name Green, such as Steve Green. Of course you cannot see that these people are colored green just because their family name has it. In like manner, naming a church "iglesia ni Cristo" does not automatically mean that it is Christ's church. The following reason militates against that view: B) The church of Christ, composed of His followers always gather on the Sabbath day, NOT on Sunday. That's the original Church of Christ during apostolic times (Matthew 28.20; Matthew 24.20; John 13.15; Luke 4.16; Mark 2.27,28; Matthew 12,1-12; Luke 13.10-16; John 7.23; Acts 13.14,15; Acts 13.27, 42-44; Acts 16.13; Acts 17.1-4;Acts 18.1-4; Hebrews 4.1-11). No room for Sunday observance. You may take Acts 20.7 but a closer look into the Greek you cannot find a support for Sunday observance here. Paul was intending (Greek, "MELLON") to leave the following day. This is why His discourse went till midnight towards dawn. Notice, too, that Paul was having a DIELEGETO (dialogue) with them. The word used is DIELEGETO (discourse, dialogue, talk), NOT kerygma (preaching). So there is no reason to suppose that Acts 20.7 is an event wherein Paul "preached" to them because you cannot find that word there. Instead we find "DIELEGETO" and LOGON (discourse). Nothing is significant in this verse to support Sunday observance. It's just a casual talk with Paul who was "INTENDING TO LEAVE THE FOLLOWING DAY" NOT intending to worship on Sunday. There was no hint that worship is implied in this text. There is no eucharist involved, either. Breaking of bread is ordinary supper, not a communion service or worship. The other text Sunday-keepers will use is Colossians 2.16. But again, that's in the plural (sabbaton - sabbaths), not the singular with article (the Sabbath). In addition, you cannot find "Sunday" endorsed in that text. How stupid it is to read Colossians 2.16 like this "Let no man judge you concerning Sunday..." Well, Sunday is NOT the day the Apostles observed. The day for "holy convocation" remains God's Sabbath day (Leviticus 23.3). There is no change for that. And there is no reason to suppose that the weekly Sabbath is shadow (v.17) because it was never a shadow. Those things that were included in the "shadows" are the rituals, including the ritual sabbaths (See Hebrews 9.10; Hebrews 10.1-4) which must cease (Daniel 9.24). The use of Hosea 2.11 is misplaced since the sabbaths God wants to stop are those the Israelites employ in their worship of other gods as what the context shows us. God cannot against His own Sabbath because it was His own holy day and His day of delight (Isaiah 58.13,14). Further, there was no command from Christs and His apostles that the SAbbath observance is to be stopped. No. It remains the same. "The Sabbath was made for humankind. Therefore the Son of Man is Lord also of the Sabbath day" (Mark 2.27,28). In Hebrews 4.9 you cannot find there "Sunday" but it's the same Sabbath day mentioned throughout the chapter. It is stupid to use Psalm 118.24 to support Sunday observance theory because it ain't there in Psalm 118.24. There is no reason to introduce Sunday observance in the first place, unless you reduce the Creator God and change Him into what He is not. But no. He is the One who made the heavens and the earth and is entitled to be reverenced by humankind, and His day should be marked as holy, just as He had plainly commanded. "The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, [even] they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens." (Jeremiah 10.11). Some may say that we can worship God in any day as what Romans 14.5 states. Again, you cannot read "WORSHIP" there. Instead, what we find is the word "KRINEI" (judge, esteem), and that's not the same as "QADOSH" (to sanctify, keep holy) as what was clearly mandated in Exodus 20.8. In Mark 2.27, Jesus is very specific, "The Sabbath was made for humankind." It does not day "ANY DAY was made for man." God's Sabbath for man remains the same Sabbath through the span of time. There is no justification for that wrong understanding that "ANY-DAY-CAN-BE-REST-DAY." It would be better for us to cease from our own righteousness and man-made sabbaths and accept God's rest for us. If Sunday-keepers argue that any day can be rest day, WHY DO THEY HAVE A REGULAR GATHERING ON SUNDAYS? They ought to do that on God's Sabbath day, both for rest and for "holy convocation" (Leviticus 23.3). Another is 1Corinthians 16.2- the word is "LOGIAI" (collections, gatherings in the commercial sense). There is nothing in this text to show that a worship occurred. Again, there is no reason to worship on a day not Jewish, or not mandated by God. Why would they gather on Sunday? To celebrate Christ's resurrection? But that reasoning came in late, as late as during the time of Justin Martyr. If one has to find a biblical support why Christ's resurrection is very important for a christian, find it on 1Corinthians 15. Unfortunately, Sunday is NOT mentioned. Paul states only t he fact that Jesus' resurrection is very important to us to give us hope, but there was NO SUNDAY OBSERVANCE ENDORSED, NOR A CHANGE OF GOD'S SABBATH DAY INTO SUNDAY. So where did they got this reasoning of Christ's-resurrection-day-worship-day when 1Corinthians 15 does not mention Sunday? Probably they got that on Justin Martyrs's head or by some non-apostles who spoke as though they were also apostles when they are not. Christ never taught His church to celebrate His resurrection but His death! (1Corinthians 11.23-26) and also the Sabbath days (Leviticus 23.32-King James Version). Celebrating Sunday? That's stupid and pagan. That's Roman nonsense followed by the INC who always gather on Sundays, instead of the SAbbath day of Yahweh the true God. Therefore they are not truly worshiping the true God because they gave Him a fake worship, a wrong worship on Sunday. If they argue using Revelation 1.10 as Sunday, see Exodus 20.10; Isaiah 58.13,14; Mark 2.27,28). The Lord's day is His Sabbath day, NOT Sunday, as far as Scriptures are concerned. If INC worship God in spirit and in truth, they must follow John who was "IN THE SPIRIT" on Sunday?????? No, but ON THE LORD'S DAY, and that's the Sabbath day. John worships God in the spirit and in truth, not in spirit and in falsehood. Worshiping God on Sunday is worship NOT in truth but in lies.
4) God's true religion is not validated by name. Anyone can get names out of the Bible, for example "Born again" it's also in the bible (John 3.3-8), as well as "Baptist"(Matthew 3.1), "Pentecost" (ACts 2.1, hence, "Pentecostals"), "church of christ"/"churches of christ," "church of God", "assembly of God," etc. Now which among these groups are is the true church when all of them claim to be Biblical? The INC? The original Greek is NOT "Iglesia ni Crist" but "AI EKKLESIAI TOU CHRISTOU" (the churches of Christ) -Romans 16.16. In addition, Felix Manalo is not the head of that church because Christ alone is the head of every man (1Corinthians 11.3), and that church existed many centuries ago. It does not need a Manalo to define it. God's last-day messenger is NOT Manalo, but Ellen G. White, the fourth most translated author in the world. The doctrines of Manalo are not originally his. Many were taken from Arius. The INC's doctrine about soul-sleep is from the Sventh-day Adventist church. For public information, Felix Manalo is one ofthe original four ministers of the Seventh-day Adventist church. But he was kicked out because of immorality. He eloped a sabbath-school secretary; hence we was disciplined. His ministerial credentials were taken. He is no longer a pastor in the SDA church.
5) God's true religion is identified in works and in spirit, not in names. See James 1.27; Malachi 3.16-18; Matthew 18.20. But above all, especially in these last days of this earth's history, they are the ones who "keep the Commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus" which is "the Spirit of prophecy" (Revelation 12.17; Revelation 19.10). See also Revelation 14.12 - they "keep the Commandments of God and the faithfulness of Jesus." The INC fell short on that criteria because 1) They failed in James 1.27 - they had no hospitals or welfare services like what the SDA church had done in the community. 2) They failed in Malachi 3.16-18 because they do NOT "thought upon His name." Why? they do not represent God in all their lifestyle, -body, soul, and spirit. They drink alcoholic beverages, smoke, and eat unclean animals, and are not healthy. They profane God's name and do not represent Him to the world.
Godbless us all...
a trick : you can watch series on kaldroStream. Been using it for watching lots of of movies recently.
@Graham Will Definitely, have been watching on kaldrostream for years myself :D
VERY NICE KYU PASTOR V.
Pastor ayaw ana .palosot Lang yan.mura man kag way seminar.
Paminaw ayaw ug sapaw
Mangutana ka unya ang iglisea tubag lng
Naunsa ka man dili man ka kamao oi .
Tama mangutana lng.
Talo ang INC, SDA won again!
miangkon na man si pastor V nga pildi na sila basta dili lang dawat limpyo ang inc. hmm! wala na lang unta nipirma kung kabalo siya nga pildi na sya.
Khen Cain
Egsuon.. Miana si pastr v. Nga kung dunay mabasa ang INC nga ang Dios wla ming sugo nga ang Adlawng igpapahulay ipatuman hangtod karong panahona, Muingon gyud sya nga pildi na sya, Kung naa lagi mabasa?. Unya kung wla, so ano say ngo po ?.
wala man jud mao gani nakaingon sya nga pildi na sya kung naa pero dili dawat limpyo. kinahanglan maglisod gyud ang INC. pero murag wa man kaparog ang INC.
Ang inyong moderator may pagka bias. Ang mga tubag sa taga INC layo ra man sa tubag sa adventista. Kulang pa siya sa research.
Cause only one church founded by jesus christ no other than st. Matteo 18:16 lahat alam na nila pero ayaw nila maniwala sa karutohanan
tama ka kapated.isa lang ang tutoo.gipabantayan ang adlaw nga igpapahulay,piro igpapahulay na nga kang Cristo.me ari ang Dios,dile aron sa pag bungkag kondile aron sa pag ferpect.
SDA--EGW 1863 america, INC-- F, Y, MANALO 1914, manila philippines tabla mga piki
Im not a partisan..but you can see in this video the inc has no word of honor, God bless you both debaters.
Parihas ramo mangwartahay luoya sab ninyong mga pastor nag parihas ramo
THIS IS VERY FUNNY BECAUSE FELIX MANALO WAS A SDA BEFORE HE STARTED THE INC
Maraming relihiyon pinanggalingan ang Felix Manalo kaya umalis siya sa katagalan napansin niya lahat wala sa katotohanan wala sa biblia ang mga aral na sinusunod lalo sa sda,kaya nilayasan niya ito.
Hanggat napag-aralan at natuklasan ang biblia na merong IGLESIA NI CRISTO at iyon ang kaniyang itinuro at ipinangaral sa mga tao.
Tama Kaya NG umalis Kasi Hindi Yan ang iglesia ni cristo was Mana SA biblia sabbath iligtas ni cristo
@@samuelyoung7614 dating SDA si Manalo at sya ay may katungkulan ISA syang treasurer są SDA .umalis po siya dahil są hindi na Siya treasurer..
Arang pangita sa inc asa makit.an ang verse haha
Hahaha
INC do not have some basic exegesis in John 7.18 as well as the rest of the Sunday-keeping Evangelicals
Gipabalaan pa sa Ginoo ang adlaw ug Sabado mga igsoon Mao nang daghan na kaayo mga kalamidad karon kay daghan tao di mutoo sa Ginoo
Kaya nga maraming kalamidad ngayon sumpa ng Diyos sa mga tao sa buong mundo ayaw tumalima sa aral.ni Cristo at sa Diyos ay itigil na ang pangingilin ng araw ng Sabbath dahil nagdudulot pala ito ng kaguluhan sa panahon noon pinatigil na ng Diyos.
Sakto jud na pastor .hahha
Nganong mag debate man judpwede man iyaha iyaha pag tuon kay sa pag abot sa panahun Ginoo ray maghukom walay perpekto ,,,tanan nagkamali
Kala Netong Mga sda makalulusot Sila G NA G kayo sa 5k Nagpapabango pa sa Baranggay 😂
pano mo nasabi na nag pabango sa baranggay? eh di nman dyan yan nakatira....bobo mo
nasa kasundoan yun, na ginawa ng INC......bobo mo rin noh
Mangawartahay kaayo Ang sda...nganung pangutan on pa man sa cross exam Ang tungod sa oras ug sa five k? nga Wala man to sa tema tapos nasettle Naman to pag about sa moderator..walay klaro
Naghahanap ng simpatiya, nagpapaawa kc alam nyang nkakaawa cya.
Suko lng mo mga inc, kdaghan ninyo nga mga relihiyon nga nagsimba og domingo knsa my tinood ninyo catholic baptist alliance aglipay church of god church of christ penticostal daghan pa gyud relihiyon kna mga domingo mana kinsay tinood
Looy Ang Sabadista pag maipit sa pangutana ..muingon dayon Wala sa TEma hehehehe
Sabi ng inc hindi daw sila inutusan mag samba ng sabado pero bitbit nila ang Biblia upang salungatin ang utos ng Dios.
Kung hindi inutos sa inyo bakit pa kayo sumamba sa Dios? Nakipagkita na ba sa inyo ang Dios at sinabi sa inyo na sumamba kayo sa kanya? Simple logic lang isip isip minsan.
nung unang panahon po araw araw ang pagsamba ng mga kapatid sa unang iglesia dahil sa pagsubok na kanilang pinag dadaana at ung tanung nio po e ung sa lahat ndi po makikita ang diyos dahil sia ay espirito ang kautusan po lahat ay nakabatay sa biblia .. maraming salamat po
Kaya nga hindi nyo sinusunod ang mga utos ng Dios na nakabatay sa Biblia.. Sunday kayu eh, at hindi ninyo binigyang kabanalang ang Araw na si Cristo ay Panginoon (Mark 2.28; Ex. 20.10; Isa. 58.13,14; Rev. 1.10), so hindi yan dapat "IGLESIA NI CRISTO" dapat jan, "IGLESIA NI MANALO." Ang Dios ay ang Salita (Juan 1.1) at ang Salita ay naging katawan (Juan 1.14; 1Tim 3.16), so Ang Dios na Salita ay naging Tao, si Cristo yan, Dios na Salita at Naging Tao. Siya ang tunay na Dios (1Juan 5.20). At tama ka, ang Dios espirito (Juan 4.24), at Si Cristo ay Espiritu na naging Tao (Luke 1.35). "Bababa sa iyo ang BANAL NA ESPPIRITU, at liliman ka ng Kapanhyarihan ng Kataastaasan: kaya naman ANG BANAL NA IPANGANGANAK ay tatawaging "Anak ng DIOS" (OR SPIRIT REBORN). Sa hindi pa naging katawang tao ang Verba, Siya ay Banal na Espiritu. At Siya ay Dios (Juan 1.1).
bilang sda ay anhg dios ay iisa nasalangit hindi kahoy at naniniwala sa anak ng dios na si jesus cristo eh kayo eh basa2 pag my time
@@ricardovillasjr1792 tama ka nga nman pero d mo lng nalaman kc n tinuro ng Dios n sabado nyo gawin yan pgsamba s knyang church pero s labas araw araw. Basahin nyo kc Exodo 20 at hangang s new testament. Kht nga c Jesus tuwing sabbath din nman.
Sda ba kay murag walay boot... Personal na kaau bsan mic dli pahuwam..
Kay mao nay nasabutan, iya iya og mic, hagit2 og debate ang inc human dili mutuman sa balaod
Mamersonal ma lgeh bsag mic ah questionon pa jud haha. Mamersonal jd ning mga dehado. Hahaha
Di na pamersonal kay mao na ang nasabutan 😁😁 hagit2 ang inc14 og debate onya di diay ready, awa di pildi hinoon
May mga tao pa lang kulang sa common sense. Hahahaha. Why do you interpret bible verses literally po? Wag kayong close minded please. Magaling lang kayong tumira sa pampersonal na katauhan. Kahit alam nyo naman kung ano talaga ang tama, why do you chose na mag paiwan sa nakasanayan nyong pinapaniwalaan. I can say na ang SDA sinasabi lang kung ano ang katotohanan about day of rest. Magising naman po kayo hahaha. Alam nyo naman talaga san ang tama jan. Study hard sa bible guys. Wag mag depend sa mga tinuturo ng katulad nyong TAO rin. Maawa kayo sa sarili nyo.
Dolores Hormachuelos
Dapat talaga eh, tau mismo ang mag aral ng bible, hindi yong naniniwala na kaagad tayo sa mga kung anong tinuturo ng ministro sa atin! Why we don't try to look and find it for ourselves?
Well kasi naman naniwala kayo sa ministro ng inc. eh hindi mga kayo pinagdadala at pinagbabasa ng Bible. Ang paniniwala nyo Christ is tao lang eh turo ng demonyo yun. Saka founder nyo dating SDA. Tumiwalag dahil.may ginawang kalokohan. Taga dto yan sa amin sa Malolos, Bulacan
Dolores Hormachuelos Hindi napo ipinag uutos sa panahong Christian's Yan!!!
amen for SDA
kaluoya ang INC ... wala na
Magbuot mag unsay ipangutana si Villaver hahaha
wala gid sang pamatud an ang inc diri