Let Me Take You To 1924!
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In this intriguing reaction video, I delve into a fascinating piece of historical media: a documentary about medieval armor produced by the Metropolitan Museum of Art (MET) in New York back in 1924. This nearly century-old film offers a unique glimpse into early 20th-century perspectives on medieval warfare and craftsmanship.
As I watch, I provide commentary on:
The surprising quality and detail of this early documentary
How the understanding and presentation of medieval armor have evolved since 1924
Interesting facts and misconceptions about medieval armor presented in the film
The historical context of the documentary's production in the 1920s
The MET's role in preserving and studying medieval artifacts
Comparisons between the film's depictions and our current knowledge of medieval armor
Join me for this captivating journey through time, as we explore not just medieval history, but also the history of how we study and present the medieval period. Whether you're a history buff, armor enthusiast, or simply curious about how our understanding of the past has changed, this video offers a unique and enlightening experience.
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Medieval Armor: Flexibility and Craftsmanship
Contrary to popular misconceptions, medieval armor was a marvel of engineering and craftsmanship, offering a remarkable balance between protection and mobility. Key points to consider:
Articulation: High-quality armor featured intricate articulations, especially in plate armor. Joints were designed with overlapping plates and sliding rivets, allowing for a wide range of motion.
Weight distribution: Skilled armorers designed suits to distribute weight evenly across the body, reducing fatigue and maintaining mobility. A full harness typically weighed between 30-50 pounds, much less than commonly believed.
Custom fitting: Armor was often custom-made for individual wearers, ensuring optimal fit and function. This bespoke approach enhanced both protection and comfort.
Material science: Armorers developed sophisticated metallurgical techniques, including case-hardening and tempering, to create steel plates that were both strong and relatively lightweight.
Specialized components: Elements like the besagew (armpit protection) and sabaton (foot armor) demonstrate the attention to detail in protecting vulnerable areas while maintaining flexibility.
Layered defense: Many suits incorporated a combination of plate, mail, and padded garments, providing comprehensive protection without sacrificing mobility.
Evolution of design: Armor designs evolved rapidly in response to changing battlefield tactics and weapons, showcasing medieval innovation.
Craftsman's marks: Many high-quality pieces bore the marks of their makers, indicating a system of quality control and reputation management among armorers.
Heat management: Contrary to the idea of armor as stifling, many designs incorporated ventilation features to manage heat and moisture.
Aesthetic considerations: Beyond functionality, armor often featured elaborate decoration, reflecting the wearer's status and the armor's role as a symbol of power and prestige.
This level of craftsmanship and engineering in medieval armor represents a pinnacle of pre-industrial manufacturing, combining functionality with artistry in ways that continue to impress modern analysts.
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Fantastic.. please continue..
Awesome vídeo. Please keep 'em coming!
I love true history..Good on you Medatron.
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I would suspect that wearing a lot of padding under their mail would be very hot and unless they brought along a lot of Aquafina there would be a good chance of suffering from dehydration.
I think your reactions to content like this, that is already fairly accurate are much more informative than reactions to no-effort articles simply repeating the same few myths, of which most of us already know they are myths. So I say: make more reactions to documentaries please
Agreed, metatron is definitely rated E/I (entertaining & informative)
amazing to see how easily that man moved while wearing full armor
Well, it wasn’t Mithril lol
The Met is still a wonderful museum. One of my favorites ever, up there with the Wallace Collection!
"lets hope a second war isnt coming... Right? "
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"Considering how terminally online you are" - sir, there is no need of such savagery towards me, lol !
P.S. I love this documentary, I'm so happy you are talking about it!
With the title, I thought you were going to talk about something from 1920's era culture.
Not gonna lie, you had us in the first half.
Well played.
Had no idea that they even did documentaries back then. But that's why we are here for, right? To learn something about history, and even if it's from 1924!
Hmmm...
I had no idea "small boy" was a unit of measurement.🤣
It obviously is, in America
@@dieene8647 Wait. We still have those in America?
Yes, would love more of these. I didn't even know that old documentary was a thing.
This would be an amazing series please keep doing it.
This reminds me of that amazing 1896 video showing Pope Leo XIII in which we can see a real knight as his bodyguard. It's pretty amazing to see a true armored knight instead of an actor pretending to be one
The Swiss guard is still a real military
I agree. I learned more about mail and plate in this video than any other video. It debunked many statements about the make of armor and its use. I was completely surprised about a knight mounting a horse.
The papal Guard are still dressed like knights in their ceremonial uniforms
yea i am also surprised that Leo XIII was born in 1810 so he remembers a lot of interesting history while when he became pope the church was not very powerful anymore (well still way more powerful than today) but when he was a kid the papal states were still a thing so the pope was quite a powerful figure. if only those early films had sound
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Pretty crazyto see footage of a guy who was born when Europe was under Napoleon
Hi metatron, I hope you are doing well! From fan of yours!
Thanks!
I wanna see the rest of the documentary... please continue this series... thank you!
please do more, it was really informative and I loved it :D
And you can get more stability/temperature control with multiple layers. Better flexibility too.
Would love to see more like this 😊
I truly do like these types of reviews. Please do keep them going.
I really liked this! Please do more like it!
This reaction is refreshing. Amazing what a person can make when you take the time to research.
I liked how they demonstrated the armor
Now that I think about it, thicker padding (e.g. a thick gambeson) would mean you'd need larger armor, which would in turn either make it heavier, or require it to be thinner to keep the same weight. It would also be more expensive to make. So that could be one reason why thinner padding was preferred.
Loved this commentary on this incredible footage.
I would totally be interested in seeing you react to more of this film. I'm so impressed with the attention to detail that the Met put into it. Looking forward to more of this!
Wonderful video, Metatron! I want to go see the Met collection so much.
This was fascinating! Love watching historical videos. Definitely do more of these!
I really love to see the old documentaries, which have in most cases due time better preserved pieces and being shown these I get to learn the history better!
Thanks for your pedantic way! ^^
Honestly something like this, I like. It’s old, and definitely needs a new set of eyes. I’m surprised by that mail. So finely knit, really debunks a bunch of misinformation floating around about armor.
Perhaps it was not yet known in 1924, but mail was already an ancient defense by the year 800. Evidence has been found for its use from about 4th-3rd centuries BCE.
What if the reason they mention in The Kings Mirror that the gambeson was thin is that because they usually wore a more thick gambeson underneath the mail?
This is great. I love your passion for this subject. Please finish your commentary on this documentary. Thanks for making this, please make more like it.
Great video
I thoroughly enjoyed this and would be a very grateful to have more similar experiences.
Like others on here: yes, feel free to do more of these documentary lectures. We are all invested in your brand of information sharing and all your research. The enthusiasm is a nice bonus as well as getting a peek into YOUR past ("I was in the Italian Sea Force"). Thank you for this delightful gift after a hectic work week. ❤😊 We look forward to more Metatron!
Nice touch with the filter!
In the 82nd we wore a French Fourragere that was earned from the division's D-Day drops.
"THAT is what men want to wear" Best laugh I've had all month!
You should definitely do these kinds of things more often. It’ll also be interesting when you come across older documentaries where new discoveries have disproven what we previously thought.
And I think the myth of crane was more people blew one story out of proportion. Iirc I think it was Henry the 5th or 8th that at his older age when he had put on so much weight a crane was necessary to mount him in full armor. I think people just assumed if it was true for him it was true of all mounted knights.
That was so cool, Metatron, keep'em coming!
I can't imagine how badly they must have roasted!
The commentary reaction was cool! I hope you do more, the insights and clarification you make are really interesting to listen too.
Very enjoyable. Another brilliant invention was the stirrup. It allowed the ease of horses and changed warfare
With mail you get the same blunt force defense as a normal thickness gambeson with padding that's half as thick. The mail itself is less giving than cloth and thus absorbs more of the blunt force energy than cloth would. Though that does not mean you can wear it with just a couple layers of cloth underneath as that would just prevent the rivets from rubbing the skin raw, a sword edge blow is going to crack ribs and severely bruise flesh. So you do need the padding, enough to prevent severe bruises and cracked ribs but not impede mobility. A hammer or mace will just about ignore the padding with any soft armor or even plate that's up against skin, the amount of force greatly exceeds the paddings capability to absorb it and with plate, look at how a Newtons Cradle works, instead of lifting a ball on the opposite side it's the flesh inside that absorbs all the energy. Even with full head to toe mail a knight will not walk off the battle unscathed, everywhere a heavy blow landed will be an ugly hurts just to move the next day bruise. Bruises heal, limbs don't grow back.
Yes, that was beautiful armor and so much work done back then was so differently done than today. So do more of this, please.
If I could travel back in time to 1924, I’d meet Robert E. Howard the writer of Conan the Barbarian. He committed suicide on June 11th, 1936.
Greetings, fellow Robert E. Howard fan.
I love this concept for a series. Super interesting. Let's keep it going and finish this documentary!
I could watch these old documentaries and videos all day long. It's astonishing that a 100 year old documentary is more accurate than most modern ones. Maybe this is because they didn't need to hype up everything back then. Information was enough.
I really like to watch old footage of this time where they show the bustling city life or just daily life stuff. That's so fascinating to me when you think it's just a 100 years ago.
The quality is suprising for such an old documentary.
3:30 that is a fascinating point. I remember doing a presentation on the Mark of Zorro (1940), and said the same thing. The movie had long, drawn scenes before cutting. Plus cameras were pulled back, showing the whole scene and actors more like on a theater stage. And this was comparing it to the recent revival Mask of Zorro 97 with Banderas. Action cuts and zoom-in all up everywhere
I love your videos they there always entertaining and you always push to make things historically accurate so thank for making videos man
An excellent trick when you don't have a jacket and it gets really cold, you can stack multiple T-shirts for warmth. It can be a lifesaver when cold arrives unexpectedly. That happens in Texas a lot when cold fronts barrel down suddenly from Canada over the Great Plains. It can drop 45 deg F in 30 minutes.
I love learning, especially in reaction to documentaries.
This was extremely informative and fun to learn about!
for the nimbleness of armor, i remember seeing 2 videos.
1) a guy in full plate armor doing different things. doing pull ups, pushups, climbing walls, jumping, sprinting, he even climbed a tree. the entire point of the video was to show that, despite what many claimed, the armor is not this totally cumbersome armor that will make it so you can barley move. i remember people being so desperate to believe that they called it fake armor, it was plastic, blah blah blah, rather than admit they were wrong. why.........i dont know.
2) the second video was 3 men. 1 wearing full plate, one wearing modern military gear and the third cant remember what he wore. it was these 3 men doing a obstacle course and seeing who could finish the fastest. guy in full plate won XD
so yeah, the idea that it was this armor that made it so you were barely able to move.........nah. lol
Having your commentary on old documentaries would interesting.
Wonderful video! I would love to see a continuation!
Keep doing this content, absolutely. More ancient documentaries!
A historical treasure. That video AND Metatron!
I appreciate thanks 🙏🏻
OHHH of course Raf... This is definitely something you should keep doing.. im sure eveeyone enjoys it when you talk about these different subjects.. and aort of Debunk and react to other videos and content.
Good stuff
this is a somewhat unusual format but i like it
I think the fellow showing the wearing of the mail was the one in the knight showcase in the beginning. He was maybe the only one the armor would fit!
Hey metratron, could you do a video on the orgins of Cowboying, specifically in Iberian region during the medieval period!
Seconded! Roy Rogers is all some know about!
This was delightful. I would love for you to review/react to more recent historical media and note what is still good information, and what things might need a bit of updating thanks to more modern scholarship. This is an excellent antidote to some of the persistent myths that keep cropping up today.
Hi metatron could you one time take us to 18th / 19th century east africa.
That was fascinating, definitely more like this please.
More importantly, when are we going to get a video of you playing that sick Mortal Kombat arcade behind you?! 🤜
i really wish photography was invented way earlier but its still interesting that we got stuff from the 19th century you can something find photos from rural regions or parts of Asia without much European influence and life seemed almost medieval. and while the photos themselves are from 1840 a lot of the buildings in the background were from the 18th century or even the 17th and 16th. and they got demolished a few decades later or during ww1 or 2 .or the photos of the boats from the time are also very epic they were mostly still your typical "pirate boats" steamboats were still rare as for as video goes its also very interesting seeing people in the 1890s walk around . when you got things from 150 years ago find out what things were like 300 years ago becomes 2x easier and when you know what things were like 300 years ago knowing more about 500 years ago also becomes easier .
Yes, please do more of these!
Absolutely continue doing this!
Mail and piercing - i think people are thinking about basically needle-like weapons cause with that mail really wouldn't hold up all that well. Just that this is not the type of weapon you'd want to have either.
And the weight of armor or equipment: That has stayed surprisingly consistent... or rather unsurprisingly: You do not want to burden your soldiers too much. It is tiring, it will wear you down if you have to carry that around for multiple days or weeks. So the weight has stayed just right around the limit of what people can use - only that nowadays soldiers are a bit healthier and more fit as we have better conditions overall (Who knew that people with good food, good housing, good training and doctors could be a bit stronger).
I'm reading the Canterbury Tales translated in Dutch by professor A.J. Barnouw, "De Verhalen van de Pelgrims naar Kantelberg", and in one of the verses it mentions a knight wearing an airy garment under his harness translated in Dutch to "Akotoen".
That was awesome, I really enjoyed that so much, I Love the past because they show and explain the past with facts and honesty. I would Love it if you can do more reactions of Documentries. I Love your channel, I think your Awesome.❤️🙂
Id love to see a full armor series...
Great video... please make more of these.
Very interesting; thank you for the video!
17:52 and of course that was a contemporary military uniform in 1924, probably still familiar to veterans of the Great War.
This was a really cool upload.
You mentioned the long shot taken in the documentary. Have you heard of Hitchcock's movie the Rope, where it was made to be a continuous shot for the whole movie (well 4). There was a limitation that a cameras at the time could only record for 10min before having to switch film rolls, so you see the camera ocasionally focus on something dark like the back of someone in a black suit and then right afterwards pulls back and the movie continues. That was actually a place they paused to switch film rolls and then continued.
When they referred to that armor as "costume" it sparked a vague memory of having seen armor referred to as costume in very old books. I can't for the life of me think of a specific example though, just that it seemed to be an archaic use of the word in English. I think also anything worn by the upper class might have been called "costume" at one point as well.
Great Video i would Love to watch more of that Type.
Costume didn't always mean something fake.
I was x years old when I found out that the thing we think is of the past is still very real in modern warfare: soldiers buying their own equipment and munitions out of their own pockets. So just like the best Medieval armor was used only by the rich (nobility), same applies to current day soldiers. Granted the base model is better quality than ancient peasant, f.e.
Wouldnt you wear mail under garment like gambeson? It is easier and cheaper to craft it this way around. And the mail is more protected from the elements
Nice. I too would prefer to wear armor over a lot of modern fashion. Then again I am proudly fashion unconscious. Color coordination? Is that some kind of capture the flag thing? I was pleased to see the usage of a gambeson - as you mention - since that is soooo often missed in Hollywood or even overdone. Was impressed to see the image of the person taking the mail off having one. The fight was interesting, but also a bit overdone LOL.
Wow! I'm imagining a back yo the future remake with Metatron and his friend Sal. Driving a Lancia time machine to try and stop WW2. They meet with Mussolini and discover who first created Hawaiian pizza then they join the war effort.
As of this writing I see almost 900,000 views and 1500 likes. That’s not a terrible ratio, so I hope you do finish that documentary for us and find more to do videos on.
If nothing else we can see how accurate knowledge of these topics was in the relatively recent past… and lament how badly that knowledge has deteriorated.
Great info, thanks!
Man I can’t believe that’s from literally a hundred years ago
Haven't watched it yet, but great video
Very much appreciated
This. Good quality, well written.
Indeed
Same.
The 'weak against peircing' comes from early DnD, and so it is relative to how well it protects against slashing relative to other armor. So if you have hardened and shaped armor, even leather, then peircing likely deflects and that protects the wearer. So not exactly wrong in context, but on its own isn't exactly an accurate statement.
I do like watching this old documentary "with" Raffaello, so I would like to see a second part of this video..
Great video and I would like you to do more videos like these.
It's actually 5 seconds. US media does not allow for a single shot for longer than 5 seconds, unless the intent is to contrast with the normal flow(IE trying to emphasize a serious or sober moment).
I already knew mail provided excellent piercing protection because of Lord of the Rings, no way those movies had a mistake that big 😎
What an awesome video!
Hey Metatron!
In the future could you include some more images of the things you're talking about?
Specifically what a cotte or chamise is, esp. in a military context. For chamise I can barely find a decent image of it!
that mail looks like it's made of mythril XD
Also, yes to watching more documentaries. I'd rather watch Metatron commenting on something that actually has value rather than tiktok trash.
Awesome stuff!
Regarding the short-attention span - I like to enjoy videos that don't change abruptly all the time.
Like recently watching some of Adam Savage's build videos, while cut down they are still chill and zen to watch.
Or maybe I'm getting old :
I'm desperately hoping sponsor includes the legendary Swayze Train!
Back to 1920, we had proper documentary.