Ex porn-star and activist explores men's rights issues | BBC Stories
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2020
- Philipp Tanzer is a former gay porn actor who now works as a hairdresser, artist and gallery owner in the Scottish Highlands.
He has been involved in the men's rights movement for over two years, first attending the international conference on men's issues in London in 2018.
It's a summit where men and women who believe men are at a disadvantage in modern society convene.
Intrigued by the concept and the issues surrounding it, BBC journalist Alvaro Alvarez travelled with Philipp to the same conference, this time in Chicago, in an attempt to get under the skin of this movement and ultimately Philipp's investment and fascination with it.
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Friendly reminder, that Jess Phillips, the MP referenced, laughed about male suicide and homelessness. That is way worse than any tweet.
Friendly reminder that that subject has nothing to do with anything in this video.
Leto Lethe says you
She laughed about the idea that men aren't allowed to debate or ask questions inside the Parliament. And no, under no circumstances are rape threats acceptable. Y'all give the fight against sexism towards men a bad name. Stop supporting clowns like Sargon when he pushes for ideologies that deeply harm men.
Both are wrong. Don't joke about (not) raping someone, and don't joke about suicide.
Kindness.
@@_blank-_ What ideology is Sargon pushing that deeply harm men? Who made a rape threat?
16:53 That's a flat-out lie. He specifically said he WOULDN'T do it.
@Chad BroChill He “joked” about how she’s so ugly he "wouldn't even *rape* her". So he’d rape more attractive people? Lol that's SO much classier 😂 👌🏻
@@alexnovak7255 No, that's a lie, stop lying.
Feminists: “Gay men should have the right to have a voice.”
*Gay man speaks about men’s issues and identifies as an MRA.*
Feminist: “No not like that!”
Legendary feminist ERIN PIZZEY opened the first battered shelter for women in the world. When she attempted to do so for men, many years later she received death threats and rape threats by other feminists. Domestic violence, was raised in the mens conference at the university of Cambridge. This event was savagely no platformed/ protested and by (some) feminists and they even played bells to stop the speakers from being heard.
@BTIsaac Sounds familiar.
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@@hannahsonix469 erin was never a feminist
@@zenman6495 I am not endorsing feminism at all. I was once one until I realised what a toxic cult it is....Erin has been kicked out of feminism for speaking the truth about how issues are complex and affect men and women and women are very often the perps.
Philipp is a good man. It takes a lot of bravery to go against an anti-male mainstream nowadays. Regardless of our sexuality, demeanour, cis or trans, religion, race, ethnicity, all men deserve the right to exist. Men deserve not to be seen as disposable or worthless.
I'm in Canada and men have two rights. 1st, to shut up, the 2nd, to pay. And for a lot of feminist, it's too many rights.
Move to some other country.
@@wisemanner5012 Why not just let this one implode?
Oh man, that’s the kind of fact that’s is so undeniably true that only a feminist would ever oppose it..
Canadian Here.. You Got That Right. Feminism Is A Karl Marx Communist Marxist Value..
America too bro
The ex cop doesnt see hatred of men? Is he headless? Like come on.
@@WreckItRolfe The "blue/red pill" term is a kooky conspiracy theory term. Stop using it.
@@alexcat6480 I'll believe it's a conspiracy when I'm not yelled at for being pro-free speech.
@@sik3xploit People who claim to be pro free speech, are usually against free speech. They are for their own freedom and that's all
As Count Dankula put it in his comedy routine (about Labour and antisemitism): _You cant be antisemitic ... if you reject the definition of antisemitism!_ ruclips.net/video/ZPrCkxGEKg8/видео.html
You cant see hatred of men ... if hating them isnt a crime (unlike "hating women", a.k.a. misogyny).
@@alexcat6480 So you are trying to disallow someone else his opinion? Great job ... now go back to your Momentum / Antifa job.
Carl YES. BBC NO. Men’s rights are important.
Male issues are important, that's why we need better advocates than this clown, Sargon of Akkad.
@@_blank-_ i do admit that Sargon isn’t too great. I think they’re overly fearmongering regarding him here, but in hindsight you’re right. He’s not a good representative for the issues affecting men (or anyone really).
Men's issues are important
Enjoyable.
I have personally been abused in two relationships by women and twice attacked or abused by women in society.
I was also set up by a women who falsely claimed things.
I was told by the investigating officer that they didn't care if I was innocent. They had to be seen to do the right thing.
This meant bringing charges against me.
Kicking me out of my own home.
Losing my job.
It was all lies.
I was the one being abused
Very true. I was abused by multiple women in my life, especially self-proclaimed feminists in positions of power above me. Feminism needs to be dismantled, as it truly is a movement that condones abuse against men, condones abuse against women who won't go along with it, and encourages women to be aggressive both sexually, physically, and emotionally. Feminism is used as an excuse to be a sexist abusive pig. It needs to end now.
Liar.
5:40 feminist gets upset that he says men and women should have equal responsibilities
Just like all people who just want to make comments just to be a pain in the ass but dont actually have anything intelligent to say.
I not really a feminist- and I don't think it is sexist that men only are drafted- war and murder belongs to men
Mens right is extremist? You want to play that game? If so that mean women right is also extremist.
no it’s not. The true definition feminism is not extremist, we are just trying to reach the same level of equality men have. It doesn’t take away the rights men have.
@@forlornfawn4495 sounds very in the media how they do and say things
@@forlornfawn4495 No you're an extremist, you're not allowed to speak, shut the f up. How do you like that?
@@forlornfawn4495 men in western culture are more oppressed then women. Please do some research. Your whole view would change
Daniel no they are not.
•4/5 victims of human trafficking are girls
•In the US on average a woman makes 78 cents for every dollar a man makes
•there is no nation in the world that has a gender parity score of 100%
•American women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are more likely to be by raped by a comrade than killed by an enemy
those are only a few examples of how society is biased against women, but yes western men sO oppressed.
Y’all tried to make him look bad, but y’all failed. Lmao.
Not really since there was no need ... lunatics like him make themselves look bad ... I mean BAD .. just as bad as their worthless selves really are. LOL If anything you exposed yourself as a lunatic like him. Failure is your name and your life. LMFAO
@@blankdice8357 cry more.
Ex porn star - we don't really like to hear about men being vulnerable.
Me - You got it right, dude! Men are as vulnerable as women. Genius!
Doing porn doesn’t make you vulnerable,people know exactly what they’re doing,you get desperate for easy money and well if you’ve got the looks and the equipment you go for it. I myself use to do solo porn photo shoots when I was 18-20 and I knew exactly what I was doing,I needed the money,thankfully I’m really hard to find so I’ve never had issues with anyone finding out. I also liked the photo shoots I did,I should feel ashamed,but my experience wasn’t as bad as others,because I never did hardcore work or drugs. I’ll never do it again,but it was an interesting experience. Lol
@@horrorfan2000 porn doesn't make you vulnerable? It's a demeaning environment that revolves around sexualizing abuse.
Imagine living in a world where saying you wouldn't rape someone because raping is wrong is now a rape threat.
Imagine being so enamoured with Sargon that you can't see the absolute tastelessness of his "joke". Tell me what in his "I wouldn't even rape you" tweet sounds like "rape is bad m'kay". It's literally just "you're too ugly to be even rape-able".
@@_blank-_ Who said I liked sargon? You can admit something is ridiculous without being "enamored" with a person. Well, I can.
That is the core issue. Certain feminists have twisted everything into some bizarre world where anything is a threat and everything is misogynistic.
what?
@@_blank-_ TASTELESSNESS IS NOT A THREAT YOU POOR DELUDED VICTIM!!!
Im glad he is not afraid to announce himself publicly as an MRA
No one should really. It's our society that is twisted.
Well most that do its because they want their messages to be heard and not have them dismissed as the hateful anti women stance that you find in just this comments section. You don't get anyone to change their mind if you say how much you hate feminists and hate this and throw out your rude comments. Since you don't care about their stance enough to ask, then why should they give a crap that you think people are being mistreated. All they see is that you just insulted them and said listen to me.
@@brettmastema7056 Completely agree.
@@PUARockstar True
Note: Every time an MRA or other “rightwing” (actually centrist) person is confronted, their reaction is to say okay let’s talk. Every time a lefty is challenged, they walk away from the argument and back to their bubble.
Lol i was just thinking the same thing. This guy goes to a feminist event and just watch him yelled at and probably kicked out for just semi-questioning their ideology
I’m MRA but I’m left and don’t care for the right 🤷🏾♂️
I'm a lefty and the problem I have is that when I engage they can't resist telling me what I think and it's never accurate and then they tell me how feminists are how liberal want this and things that have nothing to do with their claimed message and so I can only assume those people end up doing the same and no one wants to engage with that
@@manniefresh3425 you do understand that feminist just means they are for equality of both sexes. What you are hating on is a specific type of feminist that is not at all how all feminists are but by hating radical feminists or the extreme of any group is how all of them are. Don't whine that people do the same right back. Don't encourage the hate unless you stand with it. And don't keep pushing out the speakers who say crap like all feminists hate men or liberals are wanting to destroy everything. As a feminist liberal who feels that yes there is a real unfair bias towards men, I find it infuriating that instead of trying to reach people it's more preferable to hurl insults and get outraged when it's done right back. Did anyone in these groups ever have to write a persuasive essay in college?
@@brettmastema7056
lol, communism just means equality too right? Same tired old empty definition utilized in an attempt to strongarm decent people into becoming radicals and useful idiots. I identify three major categories of people that propagate feminism, the "pop" feminist, the feminist academic, and the extremist feminist. The "pop" feminist primarily consist of sheeple that spew propaganda, oversimplified ideological principles and revised interpretations of history feed to them by the media. The academic feminist, mostly in the pursuit of job security, develop the dogma and propaganda to be regurgitated to the masses. The extremist are plainly bigots and misandrist. Of course there can be combinations of 2 or three of these categories i.e. the feminist academic extremist, the academic "pop" feminist and so on. No friend I don't subscribe to feminism because its dogma and ideology are fundamentally flawed, I don't buy into patriarchal theory as defined by them, toxic masculinity, or pretty much any feminist ideological principle outside of women should be afforded equal opportunity. Further more I don't feel it necessary to promote or identify as a member of a group that has enacted and influenced laws and systems that are inherently biased and disproportionately helps white privileged females.
Men's rights is based on the belief that men are not disposable. Why is this controversial?
@Hellbound Jezebel ❤️🔥 Huh, you again. Are you camping in the comment section of every Men's Rights video or channel to present the feminist party line ?
@Hellbound Jezebel ❤️🔥 lol no considering the fact you're so anti men any man admiring you is extremely short on dignity.
And your "facts" are a bunch of 2013-era Tumblr-feminism talking points.
@Hellbound Jezebel ❤️🔥 keep telling yourself that. MRM started from zero pre-2010 and is now a force to be reckoned with, while feminism is tearing itself apart over dumb debates like trans bathrooms.
You have more than 120 years of historical momentum behind you (including the efforts and sacrifices of men who didn't see you for what you were back when you were good at hiding misandry) masking the rotten core of your movement, just wait till that dies down a little bit and we'll see then who will be taken seriously.
@Hellbound Jezebel ❤️🔥 oh yes feminazis misandry and their fake equality feminism and their i hate man movement 8 years still the same yo why feminazis misandry mad about draft i thought they want to be equal with man oh yes only equality when benefits them
@Hellbound Jezebel ❤️🔥 here equality that the feminazis misandry and their fake equality feminism never talk about ruclips.net/video/MzpMRCeTHYE/видео.html ha aren't feminazis misandry say they want to be equal with man ? Oh yes equality only when benefits them
Many men will not report abuse fact
Many police will ignore men who report abuse.
Many feminists are fighting tooth and nail to declare men as the main cause of domestic violence, although more than 500 studies have shown that it is -- in about -- a 50:50 matter.
More and more men are actually complaining about how they were subjected to infant-circumcision.
@@lichtbringer5347 Even claiming less than half of the victims/the minority are men seems to provoke the ire of feminists. A domestic violence charity for men in the UK claimed that 40% of DV victims were men and 3 prominent feminists in the UK tried to debunk it (unconvincingly) but even when the same charity said 32% it got the same reaction from them.
The sinister music is shocking
Human rights are spooky dooky.
@@alexbadtouch5920 and a little kooky
Dirty, dirty smear merchants!
Correction: Carl joked about NOT raping a MP.
He is also not far-right, or an extremist. He’s slightly left of center.
He joked about NOT rayping an MP
Not even if he was drunk, I think he said.
I'm with him, when it comes to #JessPhilips. 🤮🤢🤮
@@hermanmunster3358 Meaning he's capable of raping someone else.
@@_blank-_ If he decided to "IDENTIFY" as a rapist, then I think Jess Philips will be quite safe, I don't think she would even feature in his top 💯
NOWWWW do you understand?
I see so it is common practice to assume articles of study are wrong and are so due to a prejudice before conducting your study, at least at the open University. The biased parameters are quite interesting.
"there will be misogyny in our research of men's rights activism, and we will decide how to categorise and quantify it before actually conducting the research"
"what's that you want to know how we define misogyny for use in our research... pfft you know what misogyny means and I know what it is when I see it"
"belittling women (whatever the reason)"
"flipping the script well thats when they say women hold more personal and political power than men, and this is misogyny because its obviously false have you ever heard of the patriarchy?"
Do you really think these studies you're talking about have "biased parameters?"
A biased parameter would render any study's results invalid, and it's nearly impossible to publish such a study in a redeemed scientific journal, as it would fail the peer-review.
If you've found a biased parameter, you can email the journal, and they'll have to publically retract the study (this is bad for the journal, as they'll lose credibility in their peer-review process, but they'll have to do it to not lose all credibility). A good example would be 'The Lancet' retracting the Wakefield-study in 1998.
@@halfbloodprincess989 No my entire comment, if I remember correctly, was meant to be facetious.
5:41 That woman is the pinnacle prime example of what is wrong with women. They recourse in disgust at the idea that they should have to put in equal service for equal reward. That they should get their gimmes, while men have to fight & risk their lives for theirs. The idea that idea that everything shouldn't just be given to them, with a bow from a servant, makes them sick.
This makes me ashamed to be a masculine presenting transgender lesbian.
You should of said "SOME" not all of us think like that
@@iwuvpiesgaming9164 we know not all women are like this, as well as not all men fall down to the convention of the sexist man
Mra: Men have problems too
Feminists: help, misoginy
I'm a gay MRA and Sargon fan - there's a lot of us around
Yo! Represent!
I'm a left-winger & I fully support the Men's Rights Movement
I'm an ancom and same here, I'm an MRA.
Grats for actually doing this piece
I’m a feminist and I’m here to educate myself because in my opinion both movements have to work together I feel like we want to reach the same goals but we don’t properly communicate
@Ben Tennyson but I think men’s right activism and feminism want exactly that but people use these terms in the wrong way because they don’t fully understand the term. Unfortunately that’s why both of these terms have such a bad reputation.
@Ben Tennyson I don’t know this term but I think I’m going to do so me research about it
hey I defo agree I'm a mra and a feminist, i just want people to be happy and alot of people like ignore issues one group faces because its inconvenient to their narrative most people I've met who agree with feminism and mras to some degree tend to be very anti traditionalist as when you tie all this stuff together you get a lot of the behaviors and attitudes of medieval Europe
can express how cool it is too see someone who can see both sides cheers to ya
Need to follow the natural order - simple
@@bexie6791 look up “appeal to nature”
Phillipp Tanzer was a great representative for this. He came off as quite thoughtful and was willing to be sceptical of the MRAs. I hope he continues to explore this with calmness and nuance. I am so sorry to hear about his family history.
My family history made me who I am today. Life is full of lessons and some are harder than others
@@theuncannyx-man7882 queer.de has published an article about your "new" MRA existence. I find it mocking and distorting.
If you post a comment there, save it for yourself first, criticism seems to censor queer.de with pleasure. www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=35950
The Uncanny X-Man I look forward to seeing where your sociocultural exploration will lead you, especially since you are making an effort to avoid partisanship.
Wow this guy seems so interested in actually finding a solution to this problem! Would love to have a conversation with him.
Are you on twitter? You can get in touch with me on my twitter profile loganmccree
Everyone's right should be to protect others' rights, which also means respecting a difference of opinion.
Some people simply do not like the truth sadly, I'v never seen a happy marriage, everyone in my family who has ever married ended up with their wife cheating on them and than the wife divorcing them leaving them with nothing.
Including my father, after 32 years when he was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer left basically homeless
@Last Hope Yeah cuz if it’s never happened in *your* family it must not exist? Great logic there bud 👌🏻
@@alexnovak7255 1 in 2 marriages end in divorce you can argue with statistics.
Here in Australia at the moment (1 Nov, 2023) there is an attempt to denigrate men and males in general because women get killed by their (male) partners on a weekly basis. Boys 'need' to be trained and taught that violence is not ok, according to the frequently heard line. Is this fair? Will it make any difference? I think not. I think some crimes of passion, jealousy and possessiveness are unavoidable even if tragic. I think most men already know that domestic violence is unacceptable.
Your house and gallery/ barbershop looks so tasteful and you have such a special taste
Just beautiful
I am an art collector and can’t live without art
You have a style of your own in every way
The way you decorate the way you present yourself and the way you express your art .
I love hearing you speak because your highly intelligent
I hope you read this post
I found this video on reddit. I’m glad the comments here on youtube are more civil than those on reddit…
Feminists arguing say that they haven't heard MRAs include trans, gays, etc. It's just speaks men as a general. I'm also a gay and an MRA and I met a fellow MRA who's bisexual
Actually he's not gay,he came out as anti gay and an ex gay
I was sat on the opposite bench in Princes Street Gardens while the interview was going on, 45 mins of discussion cut down to 2 mins.
Honestly? You were there? You should have said "hi"
The Uncanny X-Man I didn’t know what was happening or who anyone was at the time, I really enjoyed listening at the time and after seeing it now I wish I did say hello.
Most of this video does, I believe, a good job of sympathetically capturing Philipp's perspective on the issue. Where it runs into problems most is when the reporter tries to fill in criticisms with what "some people say." I think this was done to try to achieve a neutral tone, but it wasn't the right way to do that. Another issue was casually throwing the whole "manosphere" together when Philipp is clearly not a PUA or a MGTOW and to my knowledge the ICMI saw few people from these groups.
Of the critics who were brought in for discussion/interview, Graham seemed to agree more than not, and as for Ms. Farrell, what she said shed a bit of light on how she and I believe much of the feminist-affirming academic world feels about the freedom to carry and express opposing perspectives.
why conflate mens rights with *pick up artists*. Does this not scream BBC's intentions with your opinions?
A fair share? Children aren’t a commodity to be divided between parents. Family courts should be addressing the needs of the child, first and foremost.
Yes, and studies show that (relatively) equally shared custody is the best model unless there are good reasons against it.
yes the needs of the child and not just favour mother over father just because it's the thing they used to to do.
Children aren’t a commodity
lol someone should let women know
J C I was quoting one of the men in this doc but okay...
Children are often time used as leverage in court, to get more out of the father. Lawyers make millions in custody battles and that's reason why they are against the 50/50 custody as a default. Billions of pounds.
I haven't started watching this yet. I'll watch it later. Being the BBC, I'm expecting it to be completely stacked against men's rights.
I agree with several things about men suffering more in society. Definitely, both men and women have to change and adapt to modern times. A lot of men still see things the traditional make-chauvinistic way and a lot of women just think of women's rights but not of women's duties.
12:06 Did Tracy Farrel look at sexist attitudes (eg. man bashing, misandry, feminism) or did she just look at things that upset feminists? She doesn't mention anything about all the man bashing.
It sounds like the latter. It sounds like she's being sexist online. She should study that.
Good for you Philip.
I have two questions. And it's something I don't understand. Why is it that just because a woman decides she WANTS to be a mother, a man is REQUIRED to be a father? Women demand the right to choose. Where's men's right to choose. In the United States. You are obligated to tell any potential intimate partners if you have an STI. Because you could potentially destroy someone's life. But a woman can get pregnant, have the child without telling the man, and then take him to court for child support. Potentially destroying a man's life. So guys. Before you get down with any women in the future. Ask yourself. Are you willing to be tied to this woman for 18+ years?
I am for equal rights for women and men. I am against bullying. I am against child abuse. I am against rape. I am against domestic abuse. I think good feminists are good people.
Good people tend to be feminists. Good feminists just want to help an oppressed group to have happy lives, and to have equal rights and not to be discriminated against. Good feminists just want to stop women and girls being abused, bullied or discriminated against.
Well then, why aren't these so-called "good feminists" putting more pressure to stopping the narratives and lifestyles being spoon-fed to women and young girls? Explain that to me.
There is no such thing as a good feminist. The ONLY good feminist is a dead one.
Then that's definitely me
Feminists always try to sabotage conferences about men and their issues.
Thanks for your sharing! 19:45 that's horrible!
Always talk about women’s positive qualities, contributions and achievements.
Never talk about women’s flaws or failures.
Always talk about men’s flaws and failures.
Never talk about men’s positive qualities, contributions or achievements.
Talking about women’s positive aspects is a positive thing to do.
Talking about men’s positive aspects is an insinuated criticism of women.
"Why women make better managers" is a great title for an article.
"Why men make better managers" is a great trigger for a thermonuclear reaction.
Talking about the poor behaviour of men is a social duty.
Talking about the poor behaviour of women is hate speech.
Women have every right to talk about men’s issues and to tell men how they need to think and behave.
Men have no right to talk about women’s issues or to suggest how women should think or behave.
When making sweeping disparaging or derogatory comments about men, just add a snide and insincere, #notallmen, to avoid accountability.
Under no circumstances is #notallwomen an acceptable scope-limiting clarification for any critical statement about women.
It is important to be ideologically fluent in the ever-expanding lexicon of nebulous socially-engineered terms (e.g. the patriarchy, power structures, objectification, the male gaze, mansplaining, internalised misogyny, benevolent sexism).
It is important that these terms are aggressively asserted as axiomatic in order to discourage challenge and reasoned analysis.
The wage gap is real.
But never allow the wage gap to be statistically adjusted for relevant covariates such as occupation, hours worked, time taken out of the workforce (e.g. due to lifestyle choices such as having children).
We need more women in STEM (science, technology, engineering, mathematics)...
...So say women who dodged STEM fields in favour of gender studies.
Men are never ‘accountable’ for their poor behaviour, no matter how much we call them to account for it and condemn them for it.
Women’s poor behaviour can be accounted for by various exonerating forms of victimhood (e.g. misogyny, internalised misogyny, the patriarchy) perpetrated by men.
Women always have good reasons for their poor behaviour.
Men only ever have poor excuses for their poor behaviour.
Humans are the product of hundreds of millions of years of biological evolution in which sexual reproduction is a major element.
But we need to ignore the science of our own biology and, instead, ascribe all human behaviour to confected social constructs such as 'patriarchal power structures'.
A woman has an affair because the partner in her relationship was failing in his responsibility to fulfil her valid emotional needs and, in doing so, was denying her the happiness that she deserves.
A man cheats on his partner because he is a selfish, lying scumbag.
A man whose partner had an affair should have seen the relationship road signs and the fact that he didn't demonstrates that he had, effectively, 'left the relationship', in an emotional sense, before the so-called infidelity occurred.
A woman whose partner cheats on her is understandably blindsided by the deceit, making his actions all the more reprehensible.
Women do not have ‘a voice’, no matter how much women, and everyone else, talks about women.
No-one needs to ask whether men have this ‘voice’ thing, and no-one needs to care and, if they do, they need to be quickly condemned and excluded.
Two female TV co-presenters: Not a problem.
Two male TV co-presenters: Not permitted.
When a man enters into a relationship with the intent of obtaining money, it warrants media exposure.
When a woman enters into a relationship with the intent of obtaining money, it is not newsworthy.
When women are over-represented in achievement, it is because they are superior.
When men are over-represented in achievement, it is because of misogynistic discrimination.
When women fail to achieve, something must be done to help them.
When men fail to achieve, they only have themselves to blame.
If women are advantaged in some way, it is likely due to them being victims of 'benevolent sexism'.
If men are advantaged in some way, it is only ever because they are the perpetrators of sexism.
Men need to change.
Women are fine just as they are.
Men need to think about and react to things in the same way that women do.
Any suggestion that women should think about or react to things in a way more like men is utterly offensive.
Men need to be open to expressing themselves free of society's traditional expectations of masculinity.
Men need to understand that their masculinity must conform to dictates of modern feminism.
Men need to reject the outdated concept of masculine emotional stoicism and should, instead, be open to expressing emotional vulnerability...
...So that women can ridicule and humiliate them for doing just that.
Women do not need men to help them.
Men need to help women.
Feminism: It's about equality.
Also feminism: The future is female.
Women’s rights activism: Good.
Men’s rights activism: Bad.
We need a greater focus on women’s rights.
We need to quickly attach negative connotations and labels to anyone who might focus on men’s rights.
If women make up a small proportion of victims or sufferers of something, we need to focus on this overlooked minority.
If men make up a small proportion of victims or sufferers of something, we need to continue to focus on women because they represent the majority.
We need to apply a ‘gender lens’ to every issue so that we can keep identifying new areas of disadvantage.
We need to ensure that our gender lens is appropriately polarised so as to only identify disadvantage for women.
We need to focus on how the COVID-19 crisis is disproportionately disadvantaging women in so many ways.
The fact that COVID-19 mortality rates are higher for men than women does not warrant any focus.
When men raise issues of importance to men, it is important to contextualise these issues with reference to the difficulties facing women.
If men contextualise women's issues with reference to the difficulties facing men, that can easily be dismissed as 'whataboutism'.
Men’s violence against women is tragedy.
Women’s violence against men is comedy.
Women’s anger is to be celebrated and encouraged.
Men’s anger is to be condemned as ‘toxic’.
If a man strikes a woman, it is because he is violent.
If a woman strikes a man, it is because he did something to deserve it.
If a woman commits a horrific act, it is necessary to investigate what ‘drove’ her to commit that act.
If a man commits a horrific act, it is simply because he is a ‘monster’; no further investigation required.
In every situation, women are (a) virtuous, (b) victims, or (c) both.
In every situation, men are (a) privileged, (b) perpetrators, or (c) both.
Never question any of the above.
Ok that was full on. Very interesting.
If only I could like this more than once.
Where are you from????
It's sad and we neeed to change these prejudices and social views. I say that as a woman and femisnist. Nonetheless I hope that it is clear to everyone that feminists and women in general don't try to disparage men. Some do, aswell as some men's rights activists want to disparage women.
And I think it's important to say that your statements are exagerated and wrong-ish, just because of the way you generalize the situations. But I guess that's obvious and I get what you tried to make clear.
Sorry if there are some language mistakes, I'm not a native speaker.. Byee
@@charlottelelele1668 I agree but we’re seeing these attitudes and general mindsets becoming more prevalent. He’s pointing out the unfair sides of being a man today. The unfair side of being a woman should also be heard. Men and women are better together.
@@julioochoa8444 I completely agree that there are areas of life in which women are disadvantaged. And these can be quite considerable depending on country and culture. My post reflects the dominant gender narrative in liberal western democracies. If it appears exaggerated, I'd suggest that it is probably because so many elements of the narrative are rarely so explicitly articulated in an aggregated form. However, each of the elements routinely appears in our culture, and increasingly so as a result of the 'long march through the institutions' by the post-modernist cultural Marxist ideology from which the dominant narrative springs. While this narrative may be 'dominant' in terms of its amplification and repetition, I doubt that the majority of people would subscribe to it when explicitly confronted by its tenets. However, the ideology and its narrative mostly operate and influence the majority on a more subtle and insidious level. Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay wrote an excellent book on the subject, 'Cynical Theories' - highly recommended for those seeking greater understanding of the socio-political trends and changes in evidence around us.
“Some complaints seems legitimate” some? name one that isn’t, take your time .. crickets.
Give them credit, he did not have to say that. Is the BBC bias? Sure. Was this a hit piece? I dont think so (with the exception of Sargon)
The Uncanny X-Man well, with all do respect, I don’t give biased people credit for half hearted bias. That would be similar to giving a racist credit for only slightly discriminating or slightly misrepresenting blacks. Hey like you said, “with the exception of Sargon”. That’s still admitting it’s partly a hit peace... I don’t make exceptions for bias that’s not the way any movement has ever really changed anything in history. I’ll give them tons of credit when the biased commentary stops. Heck, I’ll shower them with credit at that point.
But for now bbc big biased cuckoldry sounds fair to me.
@@menoyuno8430 And you're totally not biased, right...
@@_blank-_ Name one complaint by a prominent MRM organization that isnt legitimate... Just one. If you can do so without warping what was said by the prominent MRAs specifically withing the context it was said in, than sure, I am biased. But if you cant do that (and I am very sure you cant) I am not biased I am being factual.
Brave guy and at least a passable attempt to cover this issue by the BBC. It still seemed cut in a certain way to make things sound extreme or wacky but I wouldn't expect anything else. People really don't like being told that their narrative frame is based on falsehoods.
As for "extreme", perhaps people should ask themselves why it was ok for the Washington post to print an article titled "Why can't we hate men" by a gender studies professor at a prestigious university, why the Guardian recently printed two positive articles about a book called "I hate men" and printed a column in which one of their feminist writers said that male suicide was "just something men had finally found that they can do better than women".
That dude just literally tries to give back men some of that self-worth that they are taken and the reporters question him about things that have nothing to do with that such as women not being able to vote 70 years ago. Totally neglecting the actual problem he talks about. Trying to dismantle the enemy just for the sake of it instead of empathizing.
Damn, they sniped my image in this and didn't even give me credit.
I'm hurt.
my wallet my choice.
Even though he has trouble forming some of his sentences, you really get him. What a nice lad.
Forgive me, im German. How to think harder to get thevsentences right 😂
@@theuncannyx-man7882 your English is near perfect. The guy who posted the original message is talking shit.
You were never going to get a politically neutral and unbias take on this from the BBC because they repeatedly lie about things like Sargon being "far right", his inclusion in this 24 minute piece was nothing but inflammatory and contained no content about his opinion on mens rights. The BBC needs to be defunded, this kind of behaviour is reprehensible.
Just wanted to say Phil you seem like a stand up gentleman and come across as a fine example for men out there, stay strong and keep doing what your doing.
I love you Philip♥️
Yes fight for men's rights. Let's foght these abusive women who are taking our fatherhood, nor our innocense in the court.
This BBC was so left sidded...
In regard to the DV statistics, men are more likely to be convicted. Women are less likely to be arrested even when they are the abusers, because the Duluth model presumes the female is the victim
Phillip, I'm proud of you, brother! 😤👍
Let's be honest. The opinions from feminists are same as extreme as the opinions from men's rights activists. This is not a debate for the truth but for power. We just have to look at the media and see that this is a war between sexes. And I think that the best way to tackle this is by getting rid of terms like "feminism" or "manosphere": We need to find middle-grounds through a general seek for truth. I think that all waves of feminism only split up the society more and I think that we are as split as ever before. There's so much hatred online that I haven't seen 20 years ago.
15:57 _'Women were twice as likely to have experienced domestic abuse than men'_
Well of course. Everyone knows that the rate of domestic violence is highest in lesbian relationships. Or are you spinning it to say that only men abuse women?
Nitpicking A**hole very true this is something bbc would never look at since they are apparently terrified of facts
True but there are also a lot of feminists in the UK who will claim only 10-20% of dv victims are men. Even claiming as little as 33% seems to provoke anger from feminists.
Everyone knows that? Interesting. I heard this the first time...
Am i here too early? I wanted to read all the comments. Well...
yes?
It's the BBC, come back in twenty years and clear the cobwebs off.
@@timothybayliss6680 If we're lucky the bbc won't exist in 20 years, and with pieces like this you can see why.
He is also an ex-gay so I have tons of respect for him. It takes a lot of courage to go from gay to straight. I hope he's living his best life as the man he always meant to be. ❤
We need international mens day
We have it but no one cares about it
Which is, sadly and ironically, exactly what mens day would look like 😂
They were doing so well at first
LOL, he wanted to bring something positive to porn industry - please - let´s be honest, the porn industry is what it is and people don´t consume porn expecting to find their "soul- mate, their "spiritual guiding light in those films. I wish Phillip all the best, I congratulate him for having chosen one of the worlds most beautiful countries to settle down - Scotland and make his way. Greetings from his former hometown of Pforzheim.
I mean to be fair he did acknowledge that he failed, I still think it was a commendable goal, it's just unfortunately unobtainable, at least from an individual
Very interesting …
This means intro says it all
Loved this documentary! It was a great insite. I think alot of people tend to ignore these issues and it's great such a well know platform as the BBC is showing it to the public. Thank you so much for sharing and keep up the great work !
16:47 that's me
12:04 And then, let's hear from somebody telling us her bias, because these things she's listing, as a woman in place of power, can't possibly be anything but hatred towards women.. *cough cough*
Now now ... dont you dare coughing in anyone's direction! That might be considered a terror-attack these days.
didn't all men gain the right to vote something like 2 years before women?
all men gained the right to vote in 1918, in the US women gained it in 1920 but in the UK women weren’t allowed to vote until 1928.
AFAIK, Women could have had the vote in the same year if they had accepted the same terms: The draft, conscription, selective service. Whatever you want to call it.
Speaking of it, Germany, where I was born, can draft women into non combat roles and in the most dire circumstances that is.
BBC doing a 360 degree turn
I think that at the end of the day we should all just be humanist, stop blaming each other and just listen without judgement. Free rights for all.
It's not about blaming, it's about calling out mistreatment regardless of your sex. Today we have a movement of women who's goal in life is to stomp over men, sort of as a way of "payback", and it's sad to see so many men accept this as normal and tolerate it. Feminism is rooted in hatred, resentment, and pride of self. It's a virus in society and needs to be dismantled to dust.
And the corporate companies (owners, employers) love it. Employers have been exploiting women to the detriment of a more democratic family unit. The Employer and employee undemocratic administrative and legal setup is very toxic too and contributes to the breakup and unhappy families
Tracey Farrell only studied attitudes "online?" Without talking to Men's Right activists in person? Not very "scientific."
Its funny and sad too that the prof who mentions DV stats in the film is a UBC professor with a string of publications in top journals using nationally available data sets.
Graham Goulden the ex policeman comes across as a radfem apologist, even on his twitter page, yet he is part of an organisation called the Men and Boys Coalition. He also claims to want to reduce violence in society but barely pays lip service to tackling the causes of crime. As someone who used to work in the Probation Service, I'm astounded. I've met Probation Officers who had a better understanding than him.
That's a very weird island....
Everybody's using the wrong side of the street - and still they somehow manage not to hit each other...
;)
See they labelled him an ex porn star. Why was there a need to put that label in the title. Bullying bbc
PHILLIP! I miss the man you were when I first met you at IML in Chicago! Fun, unapologetic, genuine, proud, exciting, spirited, and REAL. WHO SHAMED YOU AND WHY???!!! 💔
He does a good job
If he was unapologetic this interview would have been called "interview with a sexist" and the background music would have been that of a thriller. You have to chose your words very wisely these days.
@@nano7586 He was unapologetic "when I first met him at IML" that was several years ago.
Well, he has learned his lesson and is smart enough now to be finally able to speak up where other people do not dare to speak up@@toddbennett7157
Such a hypocrite
Good fair portrayal or the MRM. Phillipp is very clearly and objective individual who sees these issues accurately.
"What i dont like about the mens rights movement is the constant fighting back"
Ok, so take it on everyones problems silently, like men are expected to do. This is a bit 'victim blaming' tbh
Honestly I'm proud of you.hope it will be an inspiration.good luck bro.
All my favorite pornstars turn out to be problematic. I got issues.
11:51 who are y’all trying to fool. Hahaha.
Atleast you noticed they tried to fool the audience it’s crazy some people can’t see that it’s so obvious.
This is saturated with stating things in a false manner... from a Logic argument standpoint.
Here is the Quick Logical time breakdown:
00:00 Intro/Philipp Tanzer Background and past.
03:50 Starts talking about differential treatment of the sexes, and Men's Rights.
06:34 Narrator dismisses the entire differential treatment segment and anything else Philipp just said with a "but" sentence.
06:45 Narrator introduces Graham Goulden, and does editing cuts that make it seem like he is saying something he does not say.
07:45 Philipp starts Traveling to the Men's Rights Activist conference with Jump cuts between Graham and the Travel footage.
11:10 Arrival at conference.
11:20 Narrator dismisses the purposes of the Men's Rights conference.
11:41 Talks about how the media (including this video) tries to demonize the groups by calling them misogynists.
12:21 Irrelevant about Men's Rights, Tracie Farrell the expert on possible misogyny expressed on the Internet.
16:49 Narrator makes a false statement with actual malice... details in 5 below.
Full explanations/problems:
-1. 6:34 Any time someone says "but" and "because" in a sentence logic standards dismisses and deletes anything said before even an entire topic unless its being refereed to. for instance 6:34 logically states "(with this but I dismiss everything that Philipp was talking about) I had also heard about misogyny and sexism inside the manosphre and how there is a dark side to it." This shows that the Narrator/editor, who is to only state factual statements and present things as neutral as possible, dislikes and dismisses this topic even making up a word 'manosphre' for it.
-2. 06:45 - The Narrator/editor starts doing jump cuts that can cause a misconception of what is being said. Graham Goulden is introduced and states that he guesses he supports Men's Rights and that the Men's Rights Activists have a perception (8:51) that they are sinister women hating people. 9:20 "I don't see a hatred (by feminists/society) towards men, I see a Frustration.... Its a frustration that all these decades of work and we're still facing these (people's rights) issues." The jump cuts made it seem that Graham was saying that Men's Rights Activists are misogynists who hate women and that the feminists, or their leaders/representatives, have never made/done hateful things towards men.
-3. 11:20 Lets go over how this grammar changes the meaning of the sentence "Men's Rights Activists focus on issues like family law, parenting, circumcision, and in things like education or health institutions, which they say are biased towards women's needs." The words " in things like" and "they say" are other dismissal words and phrases that say these are i thing but its not important nor relevant.
-4. 12:21 Tracie Farrell, who is jump cut into spots as a mouthpiece of the Narrator/editor, first off not relevant towards Men's Rights is a false expert included by the Narrator/editor as a further showing on the lack of respect the BBC has towards this topic. Tracie's "..different types of misogynistic behavior." further points to the fact that her scope does not include behaviors towards men and only towards females solidifying her as a false expert. Why was she, a false expert, included? For the Narrator/editor to demonize the Men's Rights Activists as misogynists, right after several attempts to dismiss it.
-5. 16:49 Misrepresentation of a comedian and political commentator. Carl (Sargon of Akkad) is a classical liberal as in 1960s liberal values: women should have the same rights (and detriments) as men, Strong households, Strong family units, and no direction of duty for connivance sake. Here the Narrator/editor and BBC calls him as Far Right even though all of his professed views are the most center left positions one could ever hold. They further talk about a Statement that the COMEDIAN/ENTERTAINER made which i will not quote so my comment cannot be taken down, where he said that he would not do something, in response to a all men are r-ists statement. Why did they add this misrepresentation and statement? To try and demonize Carl and the Men's Rights Activists as misogynists.
In conclusion, at every turn the Narrator/editor or more factually a legal Representative of the BBC dismissed and tried to demonize the Men's Rights Activists in a video about Men's Rights Activism... talk about open true malice I hope Philipp gets to see this comment.
John M very well broken down I have a feeling they pushed your comment down they are that biased.. you should make videos on this subject I’m sure a lot could learn from what you have to say. Especially with that kind of break down
Hey mate. I saw the comment. You really put a lot of effort inti this analysis and i agree with many points BUT 😊 you exclusively focused on the negative/critical choices made. I think i was portrayed very faily and positively. Could you get in touch with me and i will tell you the positives?
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Men and female need rights!
We do
Men and women
This is a good video, thanks.
He seems a really nice guy. All though I didn't recognise him without his leather.
Oh man I think even he would find that funny
I met him while modeling in L.A. I use to do solo porn modeling,he’s a great guy.
Me encantaría conocer personalmente a este hombre. ¡Menuda historia de redención y de superación sirviendo a una causa muy legítima en estos tiempos! Gracias por tu labor Phillip
How exactly is this person an "activist"? What does he do besides whine and complain online about feminists? Does he advocate for any particular legislation? Organize demonstrations, marches, fundraising drives, coalitions, petitions? To be activist you must act.
good to see men's together again that's all we need #men'sright stick together
You should interview Karen straughen
This man is evidently in the closet. He needs to accept himself and grow up x
moral education...............educate children good so they respect men and women
When he said that he got into porn to change the industry, I knew then that his self aggrandizement was in overdrive.
Feminism isn't the problem that faces men. These issues have always been there and I would say that is actually because of the women's & other minorities struggle for rights that Mens issues are now coming to the surface. These issues are (mostly) valid and I would agree with that last Scottish speaker that we need to help men. These are human rights and men and women should work together to try and build a more balanced society.
I find what he says at the start is a massive root to a lot of problems in many countries. "Plant a tree, build a house, have a child". Most cultures have some form of definition as to what makes a man. This is harmful.
Ironically as well, I believe that porn is going to have a massive negative impact on the smartphone generation. Their expectations vs reality.
It's straight up sexism a gainst men
Yea your right porn creates unrealistic expectations like a woman wanting to sleep with you 😂
"Claims of being silenced "despite starring in a 24-minute bbc documentary"" That nobody watches and is placed on an obscure corner of RUclips made by BBC who has little to no credibility these days. What a fuck-all.