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Brother Adnan is at speakers corner talking to some shia visitors about the status of Aisha RA and other matters of the differences between sunnis and shias
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ما اُظْهِر من الغيب لم يعد غيباً، لأن الغيب ليس بظاهر، وليس لأحد أن يعلم الغيب إلا بعد أن يأذن الله بأن لا يكون غيباً بإظهاره على من اصطفى من عباده.
الغلو في تعظيم الخليقة (الأنبياء، الرسل، آل البيت، الخ) يؤدي إلى الشرك بالله كما نرى مع الأسف، حيث نسبوا الى ماهو لله لغيره من علم الغيب، وخلق الطير وغيره. سوء الفهم هذا كما أوضح عدنان ناتج من الشركيات التي تتولد من المفاهيم الأساسية المغلوطة التي تبنى عليها المعتقدات.
يبدو أن الأخ الشيعي يعتقد بأن الأشخاص يملكون القوة في الأرض كالعلم الغيبي بإرادتهم متى شاؤا أو لأنهم هم انبياء، وهذا خطأ 😑
وذلك لأن الأنبياء لا علم لهم بالغيب إلا حين يُطْلعهم الله ويُظهر عليهم بعضًا من العلم فيصبح ظاهرًا لا غيبًا حين يشاء الله فقط، وليس حين يريد الأنبياء ذلك.
فإن كان هذا حال الأنبياء والمرسلين فما بالك بحال الصالحين الذين لا اتصال لهم بوحي من السماء 🤔
وكل العلوم التي يسعى في اكتشافها البشر هي غيبيات اذن الله لخلقه بإكتشافها بوقتٍ وزمانٍ ومكانٍ عَلِمَهُ وكَتَبَه الله قبل أن يخلق الخليقة. ولذلك نسميها "اكتشافات" "Discovery” or “Findings” اي: انها كانت مخفيةً غير ظاهرةٍ لنا ثم اكتشفنا وجودها بإستخدام الطرق العلمية أو احياناً بما نسميها بالصدفة. ولكن الصدفة هي مفهومنا كبشر لا يعلمون الغيب، ولكن ليس هناك صدفة عند الله ذو العلم الكلي. فالصدفة هي حقيقةً ما اذن الله له بأن يظهر لنا بلا علم منا بالهدف من الدراسة العلمية، وذلك فضل من الله وكرم على خلقه.
وحين نعلم ذلك لابد من أن نزيد من شكره على فضله وكرمه اللامحدود، لا أن نشرك غيره بما هو ليس لهم، والله غني عن الشرك والشركاء والمشركين حيث يتركهم لشركائهم محرومون من هدايته الخاصة التي ينعم بها من وحَّدَهُ ولم يُشرك به احداً.
The Sunnah is taken from the Messenger through his companions, wives and members of his household. Because a prophet said, stick to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs. Because God said in the Qur’an: Take the religion that came to you from the Messenger personally. And he said, "Follow immigrants and supporters." And he said to the women of the Prophet, “Read what the Prophet reads in your house from the verses of God and hadiths.” And not from the Ahl al-Bayt, through their unknown companions, who were corrupt in belief and liars, like Zurara and Sedif Makki, who used to belie Ahl al-Bayt and make them unbelievers. The hadiths with you stop at the people of a household and do not pass to the Messenger, and you said the people of the household are an argument, and God says messengers of good tidings who warn so that people will not have an argument against God after the messengers, meaning only a messenger is an argument. Ahl al-Bayt is not an argument, only the Messenger is an argument. And the Sunnis say Muhammad is only an argument. I challenge any Shiite to give me one hadith of the Prophet in Shiite books about how to pray, zakat or Hajj. He will not find it. And now the hadith of the two weights, the Prophet did not say, “Follow the Qur’an and the people of my house.” Because God said, "Follow immigrants and supporters." Rather, he said, “Hold fast to the Qur’an and the people of my house.” And he said, “The Qur’an and the people of the household will never be separated.” In order to hold on to a person, he must be present. Today, the Qur’an is present, 12 imams are not present, and even the Mahdi, who represents a progeny, does not exist, meaning they have separated. If you say that the Qur’an is authentic with Mahdi, then you have disbelieved in God. So, Ahl al-Bayt are all the offspring of the Messenger from the lineage of Hassan and Hussein, and they must be righteous and follow the Sunnah of the Prophet so that we adhere to them. And on the day all the people of the house present are from the people of the house. The Prophet said: Hold fast to the Ahl al-Bayt who follow the Sunnah of the Prophet and not a new religion attributed to the Ahl al-Bayt through the companions of the false imams. Islam was completed in the time of a prophet and there were Muslims. Before there were 12 imams in the first place. The Prophet before the last sacrifice. Copying a recitation with the ruling remaining in a year. And we find that the books of rumors say that the Qur’an is distorted, and they have a book called (Fathl Khattab in the distortion of the book of the Lord of the Lords). This is infidelity. May God guide you to the truth to follow the Prophet and the greatest Imam, our proof and intercessor, Muhammad on the Day of Resurrection. And we must not forget that the Messenger said: Follow my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the Rightly Guided Caliphs. And how do you take the Qur’an that the Companions and Aisha compiled, and reject the Sunnah? This is hypocrisy. Ali pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr, Omar, Othman, and Hassan pledged allegiance to Muawiyah.
“If I get Passionate you’ll have a Miscarriage” wait did Adnan just say that.
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Purest form of joke I have ever heard...
Also 11:03 “Are you learning Indian classical Music?”
Adnan is superb
Say, “No one in the heavens and the earth has the knowledge of the UNSEEN except Allah.” And they do not know when they will be raised again.
(Quran:27:65)
And if Allah shares with someone and the person refuses to say it = unseen....chemistry or voodoo is unseen but if Allah doesn't make us see who will?
@@8heavyhchamp8 But when God shares it, that means someone saw it, its not unseen anymore.
@@SS-ho8jx that's not the point
@@8heavyhchamp8 How is it not the point ?
@@SS-ho8jx you're correct but I'm saying either you know it or not something unknown is hidden knowledge
The argument is as simple as mixing black and white paint. Once you mix it there is no black and white anymore there is just grey which is completely different. You cannot call grey black and white anymore once it has been mixed, yes grey has originated from black and white but you cannot sell grey paint with label black and white, people will assume you are selling black and white seperate paint.
. Just because the knowledge came from ilm al-ghaib doesn't mean it remains ilm al-ghaib after it was revealed.
Thank you, Brother Adnan ♥️
Say, “I have no power to bring a benefit or a harm to myself, except that which Allah wills. If I had the knowledge of the UNSEEN, I would have accumulated a lot of good things, and no evil would have ever touched me. I am but a warner, and a herald of good news for a people who believe.”
(Quran:7:188)
I would have loved to see the faces of those Shia guys if Br Adnan had pulled out this verse.
@@husseimchalabi8059 but they agree about the prophets knowledge just not the terminology
@@toasted_donut2308 yes brother, I think first Shia have to define what they mean by the word "Ghaib". They claim that the prophet and imams know EVERYTHING what has been and what will be with no exception. That's what the verse deny. The prophet only knows from the unseen what Allah has revealed to him. May Allah guides us all.
One funny thing about Abu_Qarar 😂.
In his 2 minutes he starts arguing with side peoples.
While his 2 minutes over he starts adressing his point
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10:50 😂😂😂👍
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ARE YOU LEARNING INDIAN CLASIC MUSICIAN 😂
Shia & shirk rhythm together
Mashallah Brother Adnan Rashid for clear Dawah and akida
adnan brother dont waste your time with them you know there hearts and brain are locked you cant change it
even the young girl understood adnan point and they didnt its insane
Legend has it.. Abu Qarar do Matam after every debete with Adnan.
Ya Akhi. It is simple, Allah has names and one of them is Al Aleem "The Most Knowledgeable". Simpleeee question, can we say Al Rasool is "Al Aleem" like Allah? Wallahi will destroy their argument.
Who's arguments? You just helped both of them which means we all have it but not totally
@@8heavyhchamp8 What do you mean by we all have it but not totally?
@@khalidbarahim8994you can predict guess or know something of the past present and future....people sometimes know they will die or place...some guess what a child wud be when grown...but the all knowing is Allah and if He doesn't share it we won't know
The Sunnah is taken from the Messenger through his companions, wives and members of his household. Because a prophet said, stick to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs. Because God said in the Qur’an: Take the religion that came to you from the Messenger personally. And he said, "Follow immigrants and supporters." And he said to the women of the Prophet, “Read what the Prophet reads in your house from the verses of God and hadiths.” And not from the Ahl al-Bayt, through their unknown companions, who were corrupt in belief and liars, like Zurara and Sedif Makki, who used to belie Ahl al-Bayt and make them unbelievers. The hadiths with you stop at the people of a household and do not pass to the Messenger, and you said the people of the household are an argument, and God says messengers of good tidings who warn so that people will not have an argument against God after the messengers, meaning only a messenger is an argument. Ahl al-Bayt is not an argument, only the Messenger is an argument. And the Sunnis say Muhammad is only an argument. I challenge any Shiite to give me one hadith of the Prophet in Shiite books about how to pray, zakat or Hajj. He will not find it. And now the hadith of the two weights, the Prophet did not say, “Follow the Qur’an and the people of my house.” Because God said, "Follow immigrants and supporters." Rather, he said, “Hold fast to the Qur’an and the people of my house.” And he said, “The Qur’an and the people of the household will never be separated.” In order to hold on to a person, he must be present. Today, the Qur’an is present, 12 imams are not present, and even the Mahdi, who represents a progeny, does not exist, meaning they have separated. If you say that the Qur’an is authentic with Mahdi, then you have disbelieved in God. So, Ahl al-Bayt are all the offspring of the Messenger from the lineage of Hassan and Hussein, and they must be righteous and follow the Sunnah of the Prophet so that we adhere to them. And on the day all the people of the house present are from the people of the house. The Prophet said: Hold fast to the Ahl al-Bayt who follow the Sunnah of the Prophet and not a new religion attributed to the Ahl al-Bayt through the companions of the false imams. Islam was completed in the time of a prophet and there were Muslims. Before there were 12 imams in the first place. The Prophet before the last sacrifice. Copying a recitation with the ruling remaining in a year. And we find that the books of rumors say that the Qur’an is distorted, and they have a book called (Fathl Khattab in the distortion of the book of the Lord of the Lords). This is infidelity. May God guide you to the truth to follow the Prophet and the greatest Imam, our proof and intercessor, Muhammad on the Day of Resurrection. And we must not forget that the Messenger said: Follow my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the Rightly Guided Caliphs. And how do you take the Qur’an that the Companions and Aisha compiled, and reject the Sunnah? This is hypocrisy. Ali pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr, Omar, Othman, and Hassan pledged allegiance to Muawiyah.
@@8heavyhchamp8 Shiites say the people of the house know the unseen of the absolute, what was and what is. Humans have no knowledge of the unseen
احد الأنبياء يقول في القرآن( ولو كنت أعلم الغيب لاتكثرت من الخير وما مسني السوء) او كما تقول الايه وهذا دليل ان الغيب وحده بيدي الله سبحانه وتعالى
اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا وحبيبنا ونبينا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه أجمعين
Secret is till that secret till you not share with other person when you share that secret with other person then it’s not remain secret. It’s very simple point and he’s understanding but he don’t want to accept
Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me: I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith."
@0:50 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“If I get passionate you’ll have a miscarriage”
Im dying hahaha
I didn't get it, can u please tell me ?
i THiNK HE MENT HE’D MAKE HiM 💩 HiS PANTS
قُل لَّا أَقُولُ لَكُمْ عِندِي خَزَائِنُ اللَّهِ وَلَا أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ وَلَا أَقُولُ لَكُمْ إِنِّي مَلَكٌ ۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحَىٰ إِلَيَّ ۚ قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي الْأَعْمَىٰ وَالْبَصِيرُ ۚ أَفَلَا تَتَفَكَّرُونَ (50)
I get the point: You have a SECRET, if you share the secret, it's no longer a secret. Therefore I agree with Adnan here.
It’s like arguing is the cup half full or half empty
I can agree to both the Shia and Sunni here
But it’s really pointless to argue over it
They need to just move on
I understand it differently because the money analogy Adnan gave, if he was a millionaire and gave his money. He would have STILL been a millionaire at one point. The difference here is... When Allah gives knowledge (Elmon gaib) with his permission, to chosen ones he DOESN'T LOSE knowledge and he still is elmon gaib. The people he gives that elmon gaib too doesn't mean Allah isn't elmon gaib anymore because Allah doesn't lose knowledge like money or a secret when he gives it. So technically their understanding is very possible.
@@nikabolokov2906 read my response hope it makes sense.
@@nikabolokov2906 The question is. Can people receive elmon gaib? Yes. But if you ask now and say would that still be elmon gaib? Then no. But it does mean imams can receive elmon gaib. It just isn't considered elmon gaib in the present tense anymore. But they can receive it and have knowledge of it which is the important part.
@@jackryder5683 the position Shia’s take is that the 12 imams have elmul ghayb. Adnan is arguing that that is shirk to say anyone but Allah has elmul ghayb.
How can something that is unseen still be considered unseen when it has been revealed...
exactly....😂😂😂😂
The problem is definition of Unseen, Shia says if someone doesn't know it so it's Unseen, for example I don't know old are you so it is unknown for me but it'd not for you, but sunni says it's not Unseen, because one person know,
Still I believe both Shia and sunni are correct on this ,they believe in one thing thing but the way they explain is different
@@areng5511 are you really kidding or seriuos??? Allah says in Quran nobody knows, you say no, both of them is right?? Sura 27 ayat 65! read it!!!!
Shiaa is not Muslims.
Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me: I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith."
The key difference is between عالم and علم
ما اُظْهِر من الغيب لم يعد غيباً، لأن الغيب ليس بظاهر، وليس لأحد أن يعلم الغيب إلا بعد أن يأذن الله بأن لا يكون غيباً بإظهاره على من اصطفى من عباده.
الغلو في تعظيم الخليقة (الأنبياء، الرسل، آل البيت، الخ) يؤدي إلى الشرك بالله كما نرى مع الأسف، حيث نسبوا الى ماهو لله لغيره من علم الغيب، وخلق الطير وغيره. سوء الفهم هذا كما أوضح عدنان ناتج من الشركيات التي تتولد من المفاهيم الأساسية المغلوطة التي تبنى عليها المعتقدات.
يبدو أن الأخ الشيعي يعتقد بأن الأشخاص يملكون القوة في الأرض كالعلم الغيبي بإرادتهم متى شاؤا أو لأنهم هم انبياء، وهذا خطأ 😑
وذلك لأن الأنبياء لا علم لهم بالغيب إلا حين يُطْلعهم الله ويُظهر عليهم بعضًا من العلم فيصبح ظاهرًا لا غيبًا حين يشاء الله فقط، وليس حين يريد الأنبياء ذلك.
فإن كان هذا حال الأنبياء والمرسلين فما بالك بحال الصالحين الذين لا اتصال لهم بوحي من السماء 🤔
وكل العلوم التي يسعى في اكتشافها البشر هي غيبيات اذن الله لخلقه بإكتشافها بوقتٍ وزمانٍ ومكانٍ عَلِمَهُ وكَتَبَه الله قبل أن يخلق الخليقة. ولذلك نسميها "اكتشافات" "Discovery” or “Findings” اي: انها كانت مخفيةً غير ظاهرةٍ لنا ثم اكتشفنا وجودها بإستخدام الطرق العلمية أو احياناً بما نسميها بالصدفة. ولكن الصدفة هي مفهومنا كبشر لا يعلمون الغيب، ولكن ليس هناك صدفة عند الله ذو العلم الكلي. فالصدفة هي حقيقةً ما اذن الله له بأن يظهر لنا بلا علم منا بالهدف من الدراسة العلمية، وذلك فضل من الله وكرم على خلقه.
وحين نعلم ذلك لابد من أن نزيد من شكره على فضله وكرمه اللامحدود، لا أن نشرك غيره بما هو ليس لهم، والله غني عن الشرك والشركاء والمشركين حيث يتركهم لشركائهم محرومون من هدايته الخاصة التي ينعم بها من وحَّدَهُ ولم يُشرك به احداً.
The best ever episode 😁
19:00 This is 100% true
ya Ali CANNOT madad
Where is the third part ?
Abu Karar and Adnan Rashid best debatte wallahi✌️ i love listening to u but i am afraid abu karar will have a heart attack one day😅😅
If Jesus Christ or any prophet in that matter know something then it is not ilm ghayb as it’s knows by people and the angels that informed them.
Brother Adnan could've easily silenced Abu Qaraar by saying that the "Ilm Al Ghaib" that Allah shared with his elected people say as His Messengers n the 12 Imams as per Shia dogma yet again if that same "Ilm" is further shared amongst ordinary laymen by the elected ones does that mean now those ordinary people too possessed "Ilm Al Ghaib"?
Like said you have a "secret" When you keep it by yourself its a secret but once you share, it no longer a secret
❤❤❤❤❤adnan sir
Isn't 1 + 1 = 2 mathematics? Knowing simple math does not mean a person knows everything in mathematics.
Pointless discussion. Take nothing from this discussion. What did they resolved once they discussed the subject. Jack all.
Actually I agreed with the Shia argument.
@@jackryder5683 well you are both clearly deluded and ignorant if you took nothing from this debate
Is akhirah ilmul ğayb? No. All muslims know there is akhira. Allah swt has opened the gayb of that ilm. Its not a ğayb any more. But what gonna happen to me personally in akhira? I dont know but Allah swt knows. Its ğayb for me while its not for Allah swt. IF Allah swt let me know it will not be a ğayb for me anymore. Why shia struggle and commit shirk about it?
Where is it writen ma ka ma ya kun or which sura wich ayat when Adnan quoted at 8:18 timeline? Tell me plz.
Plz tell the surh name and ayat number
Good and evil are not equal. Repel (evil) with what is best, and you will see that the one you had mutual enmity with him will turn as if he were a close friend. (Quran 41:35)
And no one is blessed with this (attitude) but those who observe patience, and no one is blessed with this (attitude) but a man of great luck.
(Quran 41:36)
Sir,
Please ask about verses preceding these when Allah says that we send our angels to affirm that the devil may not corrupt it.
Address to the Shia. Remember that Allah may be gave only 0.00001 percent to human kind for his survival on this earth. Because, Allah's knowledge can't never be comprehend by human or any other creatures.
Please put timer to every one there
Third part?
This is mine, when I give this to you, this is ours. Simple as that.
No, it's mine... Not yours anymore
@@dimascahyopurdinanto653 so are you telling me that Allah can lose his knowledge. Understand the context.
Give better example then,,, you're example is illogical, at the end of the day everything belongs to Allah
@@dimascahyopurdinanto653 if you don't even understand the example I give a very simple example, I don't know what you are looking for here.
I have 2 apples, i gave 1 to you. How many apple i have now? Simple, logical...
They ask you [Prophet] about the Hour, ‘When will it happen?’ Say, ‘My Lord alone has knowledge of it: He alone will reveal when its time will come, a time that is momentous in both the heavens and earth. All too suddenly it will come upon you.’ They ask you about it as if you were eager [to find out]. Say, ‘God alone has knowledge of [when it will come], though most people do not realize it.’
Quran 7: 187
Say, "I hold not for myself [the power of] benefit or harm, except what Allah has willed. And if I knew the unseen, I could have acquired much wealth, and no harm would have touched me. I am not except a warner and a bringer of good tidings to a people who believe."
Quran 7: 188
❤❤❤❤❤ adnan
Jo ilam de diya hai voh unki amanat hai
There is no way or never offer shia islam to non muslim.........
I don’t think we need to play with words.
They both agree without Allah’s permission no one has knowledge.
Accept that definition and move onto the fact that how did their imams get that knowledge and there is no evidence of that except for prophets.
I may be wrong and Allah (AWJ) forgive me if I am. But an anology of Ilm mul ghaib …….. what is a secret? Is something that only YOU know and NO ONE ELSE…..now if you TELL SOMEONE YOUR SECRET is it a secret anymore?? What if the person you told the secret to told THOUSANDS OR MILLIONS OF OTHERS is it a secret? In closing ALLAH (AWJ) CLEARLY states in the Quran that. Only he knows the Unseen (ghaib)
Ilmualkaib can only and exclusively come from Allah, so did the imams receive wahi if they claim they’ve got it ? Non sense
An example of ilm al ghayb is the Final Hour. This is only known to Allah when that will take place.
iam not with adnan with this one and adnan saying the things that belongs to only god cant prophet have.for example who can give life to people except god? no one.so god give eisa that will to give life to people.so in a period of a time when god gives hes trait to hes prophet that doesnt mean hes giving that power all the time for a period of a time by is willing.so lets get back to elmol gheyb god has elmol gheym of all time from beganing to the end . so for a period of a time if he gives elmol gheyb even to prophet mohamad salalah that doesnt mean he had the whole time elmol gheyb he just had that in that period of a time.and at the end its not nice sunnis or shias call each others sherk cause at the end both love mohamad and are muslims thats it.
Brother Adnan ask the Shia to define what did they mean by Ilmu Ghaib and gave his explaination based on what Ilmu Ghaib is from Sunni understanding. The problem is, Shia has a totally different understanding of Ilmu Ghaib, they think anyone who claim to have Ilmu Ghaib even if they are actually being misled by the djinn or Satan, that's why brother Adnan said it's Shirk. The Shia seems to totally rejected the influenced of Satan on common man.
@@nutzhazel frist if all i had to thank you for how you explanation not like other brother that was so rude. you seem like a good guy allah protect you. i know what you mean. but my point was some of gods power and will its always and its from beganing tell end right? like elmul gheyb or giving life to someone .so by god will in a period of a time like prophet eisa peace been upon him that gives life to people or giving vahy or elmul gheyb what ever you call it. that doesnt mean that if in period of a time god gives something has to prophets it giving them the whole time.yes allah has elmul gheyb all time but if allah give it to prophet mohamad for period of a time.allah just give that in that time not the whole time.for example allah colud give only life to people but allah give that power to esia also that mean its shirk? i dont know you get my point or not.its comparison between a period of a time and the whole time that was my point. anyway thanks for youre information stay safe brother.
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@Waseem Amin yes brother but just like you said no one has that power accept allah just like the power he give to jesus.jesus didnt had that power it was allahs will.and by elmol gheybd depends how you define it just like you siad from beganing tell end.so this is also one of the allahs power. and allah could give it for a period of a time for example you could say vahy comes from elmol gheyb from allah so if allah said to prophet mohmad salalah that what will happen next month allah didnt give the whole elmol gheyb to prophet mohamad.just give that knowlege for month.no one ever said that even prophet knowns elmol gheyb from beganing tell the end but for a period of a time its possible cause vahy comes from elmol gheyb and elmol gheyb is the knowlege of allah depends how do you define elmol gheyb. and agian by the will of allah any thing its possible no one said they could have it by there own
@Waseem Amin how does reveled brother?releling is also the knowlege that only allah has and is reveling to someone.thats what i said the example of jesus.who colud give life to death accept allah?no one .who could separate the moon? no one. but prophet mohamad by willing of god did that.whats the meaning of elmol gheyb? its that allah knowns every thing and every where.and whats vahy? its still the knowlege of god reveling to someone like prophet for a priod of a time.thats why i said depends how you define the meaning.elmol gheyb its the whole knowlege of allah vahy is the knowlege for a priod of the time of allah and even could be elmol gheyb for a priod of a time not the whole time.so if you say from now tell 10 days this in that will happen to someone or something is still elmol gheyb but its period of a time cause no one knows what will happen accept allah.the meaning of elmol gheyb is the knowlege of allah that know one knowns accept him.
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As Sunni I want curse Karbala and her people who betrayed Hussein NA but I can’t because my beloved grandson’s blood flowed over its soil.
Did prophet Know the day of Lailuthul Qadar?
Many of shias believe that's everything is imam not quraan not Prophet
Adnan you funny. Are you learning Indian classical music 🎵. 😂
When a ten year old understands it, the fitrah has "spoken"
6:23 its like Adnan is talking with Christians about John 17 verse 3
It states Jesus says" The only true God"
and Allah says "Ilmul Ghaib is with Allah Only"
Same question to both of them; "DOES ONLY MEAN ONLY TO YOU?"
Shirk!
This is the major problem with the Shia followers, because, they can't accept truth. The always uphold their ironical teaching... Any only Allah knows them of what will happened to them.
You should have defined what is ilm U ghaib properly so that this debate could have moved ahead quickly. Just spend 5 min defining and arguing on exactly what ilm U ghaib is
By the definition that Shia uncle is going by he is not doing shirk because his definition of the word is different, could have cleared it better. He was saying some of the ilm ghaib(of his definition) , not all
No a real Muslim says that the unseen knowledge known by any prophet or Allah's messengers if they have some tiny knowledge is given to them by The ALMIGHTY ALLAH , JUST TO FULFILL A SERTAIN MATTER, NO LESS NO MORE, as Allah the Almighty said to His last and final Prophet Mohammed may peace and blessing of Allah be upon him as follows : قُلْ لَا أَمْلِكُ لِنَفْسِي نَفْعًا وَلَا ضَرًّا إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّهُ ۚ وَلَوْ كُنْتُ أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ لَاسْتَكْثَرْتُ مِنَ الْخَيْرِ وَمَا مَسَّنِيَ السُّوءُ ۚ إِنْ أَنَا إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ وَبَشِيرٌ لِقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ 188... Say, "I hold not for myself [the power of] benefit or harm, except what Allah has willed. And if I knew the unseen, I could have acquired much wealth, and no harm would have touched me. I am not except a warner and a bringer of good tidings to a people who believe... The Holy Quran... I think even a child can grasp this.... 👀👀🙄🤔
Adnan bro u spent too much time on ilm e ghaib...still needs better understanding...
Billion of Muslims they don't know how the Prophet prays, with his hands down to his side or on the top of each other on his guts. And they claim to know this and that.
How so? The Prophet did prayed with his wives and companions, you are not saying they are all blind aren't you?
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Well, ask the Muslims, why the differences if they know for sure.
In this hadith in the original arabic it is mentioned لَعَنَ اللهُ أَبَا التُّرَابِ' (may allah curse Abu turab (Abu Turab was the name given to hazrat ali by Prophet Muhammad pbuh)
Sahih Muslim 6229
Sahl b. Sa`d reported that a person from the offspring of Marwan was appointed as the governor of Medina. He called Sahl b. Sa`d and ordered him to abuse `Ali. Sahl refused to do that. He (the governor) said to him:If you do not agree to it (at least) say: May Allah curse Abu Turab. Sahl said: There was no name dearer to `Ali than Abu Turab (for it was given to him by the Prophet himself) and he felt delighted when he was called by this name. He (the governor) said to him: Narrate to us the story of his being named as Abu Turab. He said: Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) came to the house of Fatima and he did not find `Ali in the house; whereupon he said: Where is your uncle's son? She said: (There cropped up something) between me and him which had annoyed him with me. He went out and did not rest here. Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) asked a person to find out where he was. He came and said: Allah's Messenger, he is sleeping in the mosque. Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) came to him and found him lying in the mosque and saw that his mantle had slipped from his back and his back was covered with dust and Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) began to wipe it away from him (from the body of Hadrat `Ali) saying: Get up, covered with dust (Abu Turab); get up, covered with dust.
Why won’t the old Shia man answer the question??? DOES HE BELIEVE HIS IMAMS KNOW THE PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE????? Simple question. What does brother Adnans belief have to do with what he believes????! Ask Brother Adnan the same question. And you will get a quick answer. The old Shia man is waffling because he knows to belive in that is SHIRK
If I bury somewhere a treasure for a large amount of money and only I know where it is and no one else, it means that no one except me knows where it is. This is called - hidden from view because no one knows where it is. But once I say where it is, and someone already knows about the location of the treasure, will it be considered hidden from view? No! Because it was hidden, and now it is obvious. That's what the shia don't understand meanin of Elm Al Ghayb! )) It's only for Allah)) as long as someone know about something) it's no longer Elm Al Gheyb ))
The girl is very smart.
Dog hid bone somewhere in the desert sand.Only dog knows where he kept the bone. Now it is the ilm that is not known by his master.The dog has ilm-ul-gaib according to the old man.(na'oozbillah..astagfirullah)
This discussion isn't helpful because brother Adnan and the Shia elder aren't agreeing to a common definition of ilm of ghayb.
Cuz shias definition makes no sense...
Shia will never agree
unseen knowledge = ilmu ghaib
Seen knowledge = non ilmu ghaib..
So hard to understand if you have something to hide🤣
Death,partner and rizk is ilmu ghaib cause no one will know..
The date of yaumul qiamah is ilmu ghaib cause nobody know..
If the knowledge already been revealed, the knowledge already been known/seen, therefore that knowledge no longer is ilmul ghaib🤣😂..
It is difficult to understand when you are not honest with yourself, or you afraid that all the time you act is false act😂🤣
May Allah guide our heart to the right path cause only Allah know the best.. and that also an ilmul ghaib..
If your foundation is false, everything is gonna falls so do your beliefs system.. thank you
the prophets and the angels who are nearest to Allah don't have the knowledge of the unseen and Allah clarifies that time and time in the Quran. and the "elm alghaib" he talks about is infinite and we are finite so its impossible for a human to possess something that is greater than them.
Allah chooses what he reveals to whomever he chooses to reveal it to.
Two Keywords here for my Sunni and Shia brothers are "Chooses" & "Reveals".
What I mean to say is that yes I agree that prophets can know stuff only Allah knows but that's not by default and they know nothing besides what Allah taught & revealed to them. And they do not know everything they only know what Allah chooses for them to know Alhamdulillah'.
I hope I've made my point clear brothers and sisters and let us not argue based on what we think, or might be. Bring the Quran and lets read in the name of Allah the only one worthy of worship the one whom those you make divine are seeking his mercy and are only his servants and slaves and nothing more.
One more thing.
The notion they put forth when they say imams have elm alghaib is that they have that knowledge without Allah's guidance meaning Allah just handed them his knowledge without a definite purpose. any way you wanna break this down is problematic. because the notion is problematic and goes against everything the prophet taught us. It's either that or shias are just too arrogant to say they misunderstood the Quran.
@Waseem Amin some of the knowledge of Allah he chose to share. Like his religion the stories in the quran the events of the day of judgment and so on. So the knowledge Allah shared with his prophets is limited. Allah did not give any of his prophets or angels All of the knowledge of the unseen or give them the ability to foresee the future. Even the angels clearly spoke to Allah and said we only know what you taught us. And So for example prophecies.. Allah gave his chosen ones (prophecies) not the knowledge of the unseen. So when Allah told the prophet about the signs of the end of times the prophet was only given signs and not exact information detailing time date and the names. And the knowledge that was shared was shared for a purpose. If you would consider that to be the knowledge of the unseen then you are misunderstanding the whole concept. The knowledge of the unseen is not to be known by anyone BUT Allah. When somebody possesses the knowledge of the unseen that means they no longer depend on Allah for that knowledge because they already have it all. Which is contradictory to what a slave is. A slave of Allah is dependent on Allah for everything.
@Waseem Amin what i would ask you is provide me your evidence from the quran and lets go through them all. Until we reach a point where we can respectfully not act proud and turn away from the truth and what allah revealed.
@Waseem Amin وَأَنَّ الْمَسَاجِدَ لِلَّهِ فَلَا تَدْعُوا مَعَ اللَّهِ أَحَدًا (18)
وَأَنَّهُ لَمَّا قَامَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ يَدْعُوهُ كَادُوا يَكُونُونَ عَلَيْهِ لِبَدًا (19)
قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَدْعُو رَبِّي وَلَا أُشْرِكُ بِهِ أَحَدًا (20)
قُلْ إِنِّي لَا أَمْلِكُ لَكُمْ ضَرًّا وَلَا رَشَدًا (21)
قُلْ إِنِّي لَن يُجِيرَنِي مِنَ اللَّهِ أَحَدٌ وَلَنْ أَجِدَ مِن دُونِهِ مُلْتَحَدًا (22)
إِلَّا بَلَاغًا مِّنَ اللَّهِ وَرِسَالَاتِهِ ۚ وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَإِنَّ لَهُ نَارَ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا (23)
حَتَّىٰ إِذَا رَأَوْا مَا يُوعَدُونَ فَسَيَعْلَمُونَ مَنْ أَضْعَفُ نَاصِرًا وَأَقَلُّ عَدَدًا (24)
قُلْ إِنْ أَدْرِي أَقَرِيبٌ مَّا تُوعَدُونَ أَمْ يَجْعَلُ لَهُ رَبِّي أَمَدًا (25) عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَىٰ غَيْبِهِ أَحَدًا (26)
إِلَّا مَنِ ارْتَضَىٰ مِن رَّسُولٍ فَإِنَّهُ يَسْلُكُ مِن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ رَصَدًا (27)
لِّيَعْلَمَ أَن قَدْ أَبْلَغُوا رِسَالَاتِ رَبِّهِمْ وَأَحَاطَ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ وَأَحْصَىٰ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ عَدَدًا (28)
These verses speak directly against supplication through or to any but Allah SWT
Ilmul ghaib, belongs to Allah exclusively.
Wahyu, the ilmu that given to choosen..
Muaviya used to order to curse Hazrat Ali.
Sahih Muslim 6220
Amir b. Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported on the authority of his father that Muawiya b. Abi Sufyan appointed Sa'd as the Governor and said:What prevents you from abusing Abu Turab (Hadrat 'Ali), whereupon be said: It is because of three things which I remember Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) having said about him that I would not abuse him and even if I find one of those three things for me, it would be more dear to me than the red camels. I heard Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) say about 'Ali as he left him behind in one of his campaigns (that was Tabuk). 'Ali said to him: Allah's Messenger, you leave me behind along with women and children. Thereupon Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) said to him: Aren't you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there is no prophethood after me. And I (also) heard him say on the Day of Khaibar: I would certainly give this standard to a person who loves Allah and his Messenger, and Allah and his Messenger love him too. He (the narrator) said: We had been anxiously waiting for it, when he (the Holy Prophet) said: Call 'Ali. He was called and his eyes were inflamed. He applied saliva to his eyes and handed over the standard to him, and Allah gave him victory. (The third occasion is this) when the (following) verse was revealed: Let us summon our children and your children. Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) called 'Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain and said: O Allah, they are my family.
Layman here. Reaaly small differences between both Shia and Sunni views on ilm ghaib, but give deep impact on how each of the beliefs stand.
While the Sunnis are trying hard to avoid any small tendencies to become shirk by giving all credits to Allah azza wa jalla. The Shia, however, are trying to substantiate that little small part of the ilm ghaib of Allah swt was given to several selected people, thus some selected people were elevated to a higher degree.
Allah knows best.
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That's exactly why i don't like to belittle adnan because he is self aware of his own contradictions and mistakes. That's why his jokes are funny even to me. I know you wont like what i said but this is how i see it.. xp
@@lDeath489 Relax mate its all in the game🤣..
@@DinhobahaDin :P
The ilm ul gaib topic is a simple issue of understanding the wording by the Shia speaker.. he cant understated wahi is when Allah gives knowledge to the Prophet or to someone else but the ilm ul gaib is only with Allah.. in theory the Shia is agreeing but for the wording used.. the Shia needs to stop for a second and try to understand what Adnan the Sunni speaker is saying but he is showing ignorance in not understanding a point that isnt even hard to follow it's very simple.. may b Adnan needs to sit with the Shia speaker on a 1to1 basis over a cup of tea to try to explain this point and educate the Shia so that he can understand correctly..
If you tell a child about gravity, does it mean that child knows all the science of physics? If you teach a child 2+2=4, does it mean that child knows all the science of mathematics? so science of the unseen is the same thing. Only Allah has this knowledge. and giving people parts of it does not mean that those people know the unseen by their own power. and after a news about the ghaib becomes obvious to a person, that information is no longer ghaib. What two people know is not a secret. simple is that. but shias....
The verse is saying Allah reveals ilm ghaib to selected. And adnaan is saying when it is revealed to selected ones it is not ilm ghaib. God is himself saying it ghaib. Who the hell are you .
in other word i also have ilmu ghaib.. because prophet Muhammad told me about the future event..so it will contradict the Quran when Allah said only reveal to SELECTED... clearly im not the one who selected..im not nabi..
I would rather speak to the wall than speak to shia!
“If I get passionate you’ll have a miscarriage”🤣🤣🤣🤣
Funnnyy ahahaha
Ya akhi, 20 mins to talk about elm al ghieb. To allah it's elm al ghieb and the prophets it's not? Elm al ghieb is just a state, it's thaher to Allah, to us it's elm al ghieb, and so to the prophet'a unto revealed is also thaher and us elm al ghieb, so when the verse says they have elm al ghieb it means it's true, to us is ghieb to them it'a thaher.
Also aoha is just means revealed or showed them (I don't know exact translation in English), and Wahi is noun and aoha is the verb. But 40 mins to talk about this. I hate this style of Arabs being emotional in debate and sticking to their beliefs rather than be open to learn or show the other their mistake, they are both out there to get each other's sects but they respect the other person. Neither shias or sunnis are right! Learn from each other and admit mistakes.
Poor old man he is mixing between attributes of Allah and the miracles 😅.
He can't understand that the ghayb since it has reviled it's not longer ghayb . He mast know firt the definition of the word before using it 🙄.
Actually I had some soft spot for Shias. I think their theology is more based on reasons than sunnis. But hearing this kind of Shits I can clearly see that it is just a political junk.
Allah ki bat mano Allah ke Rasul ki bat mano
abu qarat aka abu jahal
If two have knowledge and the a third does not. Is it unknown to the third? It’s unknown to us not to prophets what dose that tell you about those prophets that got given one of the greatest powers of them all. Your comparison of Shirk is laughable at the least.
so they agree allah gave them the knowledge but disagree on the terminology. so where is the shirk?
because ilmu ghaib only exclusive with Allah..when shia claim their imam get ilmu ghaib that is shirk.. associates partner with the divinity of Allah which is knowing the ilmu ghaib..
Ab de diya ilam fir aap kyu mana farma rahe ho
صم بكم عمي
2:38 10:52 hahahahahhaha
Abu qarar only knows about ilm al turd 😂
When came to they imam run away
Whst is a illmul gaib
The Quran is corrupted....I don't blame these poor Muslims.
How much money in my pocket,who know stand up your face
Adnan makes no sense, how if Allah and the prophet know something is it not ilm ul ghaib anymore and where is that mentioned in the verse. It still is ilm ul ghaib as no one else knows except them ie Allah and the prophet. It ceases to be ilm ul ghaib when the people know.
And the secret example lol, it still is a secret to every single other person even if you share it with one person.
you are make no sense...in other word you said prophet Muhammad keep a secret and do not tell the ummah about 'that' secrets??
@@tobi4637 what are you on about
@@aliiznn when you tell something to someone about hidden knowledge..you still calling that information is secret?? please use your mind
@@tobi4637 when you tell one person about something hidden is it still hidden from everyone else? Yes it is, telling one person something does not make it common knowledge does it
@@aliiznn when prophet Muhammad told us prophet isa will comeback.. that the secret or common knowledge???
so Allah gives ilme ghabi to his prophet and he opens it to his sahaba and sahaba opens to every one and its ilme ghaib for shia???? so it means every one has ilme ghaib now lol
Barelvi thinks that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had knowledge of unseen
@@walter_white3247 YES BECAUSE they are the version of shia
Looks like Adnan has met his match.
Not even close
lmao i agree not even close.
shiah blind simple