Steve Rogers got the serum, fought in WW2, lost his best friend, was frozen in ice, lost his girl, lead the Avengers, saved the world, and never cussed. What did Sam Wilson ever do? He's a character devoid of good lore.
The irony is that as Falcon HAD THE LORE!!!! Military vet, special forces, has technical knowledge. Injured in the line of duty and shelved. PTSD. Left to rot in a civilian world he doesn't fit into anymore. THAT IS LORE!!! From there he gets his life back and while helping other vets heal he helps a superhero heal AND BECOMES A HERO HIMSELF. And then they rip it all off him and make him a second rate clone of someone else. How stupid. Falcon was a good character. Whatever this is, is not.
If he just take the super soldier serum things would be better. Because throwing a frisbee to hit 3 flying missiles requires some serious hand and eye coordination.
That would have been the plot for what I would have done for a Falcon film. Where new super soldiers are appearing as mercenaries and Wilson investigates, discovering that someone had manages to recreate the formula of Abraham Erskine. In order to stop the new super soldiers, Wilson takes the formula and takes down the person responsible, along with help from Bucky and Hawkeye. By the end, Nick Fury recruits the three to join his new organization and to become official members of the new Avengers, which would lead up to a new Avengers movie (probably Secret Invasion or something else). But that's living in a perfect world.
I'm pretty sure they did it because (beside the fact that the MCU hates mustaches: see Tony and Strange) because in the comic they magically disappears, when Ross become the Hulk and since this is a movie, it wouldn't be realistic. And a big red Hulk with mustaches wouldn't be intimidating. ... and they hate mustaches. That's a fact.
@BETMARKonTube Probably because Walt rocked the 'stache and they absolutely despised the og boss man. They made Hulk also wear glasses, mustache wouldn't be sillier.
Also, if Wakanda gave a derivative serum to the Falcon, they can also give it to the entire Wakandan army. Also, Falcon as a soldier would need to take blood tests, and the government could try to replicate the Wakanda serum formula in secret.
I still don't get why they decided to give the shield to a side character who to this day, NO NON COMIC READERS KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT! At least with the normies they saw Bucky was Cap's best friend and their bond, but Falcon, he was introduced as a potential friend and got along great with Steve, but there wasn't enough reason shown to give him the name of Captain America.
As a comic reader: Falcon is a staple character of Cap comics since a long, long time. So it’s not right that Cap comic readers don’t know him. BUT most Cap comic readers I know hate the time Falcon became Cap and I personally stopped reading any Cap comics due to how they changed Falcon and Steve then. PS: The only thing that may rank higher on the hate list from Cap comics is Hydra Cap.
@@davidgantenbein9362 The problem is that... For many, the idea of a Hydra Cap **COULD** be a good story. Mind control, Subverted in another way. Clone. Whatever... And then REAL Cap comes back and kicks ass. Or... It was a ruse to get inside. It *COULD* be a good story.
It's funny you say this as if a normie will care. The only people who have a problem with this are comic readers ( myself included) I showed this to my younger sister and GF and both couldn't care less but still want to watch it . If we're being honest no normal movie goer has a problem with this so chill out man
@@davidgantenbein9362 ugh, I worded my comment wrong and caused way too much confusion...even to myself.🙄 I meant all non comic readers and yeah, Hydra Cap was and still is hated a lot.
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Super serum aside, Steve Rogers IS Captain America. He wanted to fight evil when everyone else told him he was too small and frail. He kept training, despite always being last (except that one time with the flag pole) and being mocked. He jumped on a grenade to save the men that mocked him and doubted him. He can do this all day. He is Captain America.
I never understood why they introduced Skrulls the way they did? Skrulls are a FF thing, not a Captain Marvel, Avengers or Nick Fury thing. This is what happens when you don't follow canon.
They want us to believe he was discriminated against because of his skin colour... but banks LOVE making money. And there even exist banks run by people of his exact skin tone. So really it's just VASTLY more likely that he has a terrible credit score because he's completely irresponsible and perhaps outright criminal. Is there any reason to believe he's not millions in debt, owes child support to three baby-mamas, and got caught stealing things from Avengers stronghold?
In Antman 3, there was tonnes of Antman Merch. What company would have the balls to rip off the Avengers??? Falcon also saved the universe, he cant start a go-fund-me??
Depends if his family cant work or walk and if they are foreign to the country then they will get it for free along with a business loan and foodstamps
Bucky has the Super Soldier serum inside him from when Hydra had him brainwashed. Sam never took the serum so a regular guy getting hit by a Hulk would end up in a coma or dead. Doesn't make sense.
@MissyFaith1971 Yeah, having Sam in that suit, no matter what it's made of(vibranium/adamantium) wouldn't have stopped the blunt force trauma you see him take as he's bouncing off the cars. Even if it was made in Wakanda. Steve had super soldier serum, T'Chala ate the special flower, Sam's got none of those. He simply wouldn't have recovered.
I feel bad for Mackie with all of this. He has to know it’s just Disney marvel clinging to the message as hard as they can still. And it feels insulting the way a lot of the promotions and such talk about him and his character. A lot of verbiage and weight being thrown into this “oh he’s so much more than he ever was before” type language just feels like another round of the racists pretending to be inclusive letting the subtlety completely slip. Falcon was a great hero on his own, without needing the mantle or justification to exist with larping as the Captain. The whole thing just feels pathetic and gross from the Disney side.
Mackie is a racist himself, so no sympathy. He's joined the brigade and insisting that only bigots dislike him. Which is wild given how much he himself was complaining about this movie during production.
To be fair, Marvel sucks for putting Mackie in this situation. He was a great Falcon and they should have kept him there. He’s not going to say no when offered a front line role as “Captain America” and when it ultimately loses money, they’ll have set the guy up for failure.
Doesn't matter what the suit is made out of, hitting the ground at over mach 1 when your are a jelly doughnut covered in any metal (...to the point there is a delayed reaction shockwave) still leaves you as a very, VERY, flat puddle of Jelly. Then you turn into a GEYSER of jelly!!!
Also, neither the super serum OR a vibranium suit will stop the sheer trauma of hitting the ground at high speed. Not a single hero or heroine is supposed to be indestructible - they are all still only flesh and blood, remember? Look at what happened to War Machine. Remember that thing called consistency, Marvel?
15:00 Yeah but the actor of Miles Morales would be too busy drooling and being creepy over Kate Bishop and the Vulture’s daughter, if you know what I mean.
Thank you Gary and everyone on this panel and everyone thats on Nerdrotic daily, i am currently going through the worst period of my life and watching you all is one of the few times i actually laugh and smile! please keep it up! Big love!
Adamantium is a rare heavy metal in the comics,so even if Tiamat was turned to stone its bones would still be adamantium,because it's impervious to physical transformation.
Are we sure the Celestial is dead, it is a Celestial, they can handle a lot. Being turned into marble would that even kill a Celestial, its more like putting it to sleep or in a coma, so mining a sleeping god does not seem like the best idea ever.
Yep, which is also lore-breaking because in Guardians of the Galaxy, Nowhere, was the decapitated head of a Celestial where they harvested bone and fluids. They are breaking their own lore!
I knew Harrison Ford was a pilot, and I had also heard he was into weed, but for some reason I had never thought of those two facts at the same time. Now that I think about it, it's a bit concerning.
@@RCAvhstape Just at work I listened Powerslave, Somewhere In Time, 7th Son, No Prayer and Fear of the Dark. Holds up so well. Probably gonna skip the 2 Bruceless albums, I love Brave New World. Can't say the same about the upcoming movie with the same name, hah!
If there's one real problem is we never saw Sam act as a leader in any previous MCU movies. He was always following Steve. At least the comics had decades of history with the character and a very long time connection to Steve before making him Captain America. Still didn't work. One thing I noticed that's a big difference between most "hero replacement" stories of the past and the more recent ones is the message. If you look at Death of Superman, Knightfall, or the Cap gets fired arcs, they were done to show that slapping a costume and label on someone doesn't mean they have what it takes to be Superman, Batman, or Captain America. They can still become valuable heroes in some cases, but taking these iconic roles requires certain personality traits. Conversely, today they're treated like soldier uniforms. One dies, draft another one from wherever.
Eternals sucked. They used a Korean for the character of Gilgamesh of Mesopotamia. I’m Middle Eastern and that was the biggest FU to me and my ancient Assyrian people.
Quoting your ancient Assyrian ancestors is also a big FU here, given Gilgamesh was king of Ur, a Sumerian city. Sumerians were not Assyrians, different people and different languages that were not related. The Semite people were the northern neighbors to the Sumerian people. If you are from that region, you may have Sumerian ancestors as well, but the myth doesn’t originate from Assyrians.
Welcome to how white people have been feeling for the last ten years, glad you could join the team. We had Black women Vikings, Black women as real English queens that we have many portraits of and they do not look black. Black people in 3rd Century England enslaving white people. Black women as queens of Camelot. Black English Lords in Regency Britain. Our history made an African mockery for Hollywood to desecrate.
I wasn't even aware that Marvel has put the eldest hero of recorded mythology into one of their scripts, but I'm not surprised that they messed it up...
Doesn’t matter if his new suit is vibranium. It can absorb kinetic energy, but is NOT LIMITLESS! The Hulk’s strength is too powerful. Remember how Steve Roger’s shield was broken by Thanos? Same concept. He crushed Vision’s head who was also vibranium if I remember rightly. So it can’t save you from everything.
I’m waiting with bated breath for them to make backstories for the Hyenas and Timon. Come on Disney, you were so interested in ‘rEaLiSm’ that you exaggerated misconceptions about male lions, _why not show us the full extent of these two matriarchal species?_
The red and white suit. Yes absolutely I would have loved to have seen that! Maybe even with the variation of the dorky wings under the arms. They looked cool in the comics.
I'm sorry but won't all that fire from the explosion of whatever was thrown at Captain African American - as he summersaulted through it burn his face off? I mean, he's not a super-soldier and he's not wearing a full mask, so how can he fly through fire from an explosion and not be singed one bit?!
If Tiamut was turned info marble and concentrated in that one part of the globe it would throw off the spin of the planet having the center of gravity completely off center. In short, it would destroy the planet either way. As for invasion….better left un talked about.
If they would have just made him Cap, work in a reason for him to have to take the serum, perhaps he has to make a difficult decision.....it could have worked with a great script. Seeeing him as Cap with wings is so goofy. Instead, they have to hand wave away the fact that he's not a supersoldier, the entire backbone of the character.
The trouble with these interconntected movie series and TV shows that, to make the audience care about this franchise you need to address the things that happen within that series, which currently they do address some but ignore really major events that really need to be addressed. This started at th end of phase 3 with the blip with so many questions unanswered and has got steadly worse from there, with every movie wanting their moment of increasing world altering spectacle, then that is ignored in the next movie or TV series. Disney oversturated the superhero genre and has effectively killed it making it non profitable. Disney are popularity vampires, taking a popular franchise and sucking it dry for profit and then animating the dead corpse to try make more money.
Crazy to think that we're halfway into the current decade now. Just seeing the current state of the MCU really puts into perspective how good we had it. I remember back in 2015, the MCU was on top of the freaking world, both Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy just came out the year previous, and Age of Ultron was the next big exciting movie. How the times have changed.
Why Steve chose Sam as his successor NOT Bucky: (1) ... Bucky's Emotional Baggage: Bucky's experiences as the Winter Soldier and his subsequent struggles with PTSD make it challenging for him to take on the responsibility of being Captain America. The weight of his past actions and the guilt he carries would be a heavy burden. Steve Rogers did want that on him and also it does NOT set him as "ready" to be the symbol for an entire nation and the world. (2).... Lack of symbolic Morality: Although Bucky has made significant progress in redeeming himself, he still struggles with the moral implications of his past actions as the Winter Soldier. Captain America's mantle requires a strong moral compass, which Steve Rogers embodied and Steve saw that more in Sam. (3) ... Steve familiarity to Sam's Volunteer manner: In Captain America 1:The First Avenger (2011), Bucky Barnes was actually AGAINST Steve Rogers joining the army. When Steve expressed his desire to enlist, Bucky tried to dissuade him, citing concerns about Steve's physical limitations and the dangers of war but Steve still volunteered to join the army even after knowing how much of a weakling he was (before the serum). And even when he was chosen, he was told the experiment might NOT be successful but Steve still VOLUNTEERED to proceed. Dr. Abraham Erskine warns Steve Rogers (Captain America: The First Avenger, 2011).... "We've had... problems with the serum. Unstable results. One subject grew too aggressive. Another... didn't survive." Sam Wilson is the FIRST person who is NOT connected or affiliated to SHIELD or any of the superheroes in any way to VOLUNTEER his help into active missions with Captain America and the Avengers. I repeat Sam VOLUNTEERED (Captain America 2: Winter Soldier movie 2014). Sam was NOT recruited like Nick Fury did to Tony Stark/ Ironman and he was not given command order like Nick Fury did to Black Widow for her to spy on Ironman/ Tony. Sam put his life on the line LITERALLY several times just to aid Steve. Dialogue between Steve and Sam (Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014).... Sam Wilson: "You need help, Cap?" Steve Rogers: "I'm not asking." Sam Wilson: "Didn't think you were. When do we start?" Sam VOLUNTEERED the same way Steve did to join the super serum experiments and when Steve volunteered to join the army AGAINST Bucky's advise and when Steve Volunteered to save Allied forces POWs in Captain America 1 movie 2011. (4)... Dialogue: Dr.Abraham Erkine to Steve Rogers (Captain America 1: First Avenger, 2011). Dr.Abraham Erskine= "Yeah, but... there were other... effects. The serum was not ready. But MORE IMPORTANT, THE MAN. The serum amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great; bad becomes worse. This is why you were CHOSEN. Because the strong man who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power, but a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows... COMPASSION." Dr.Abraham Erskine= "Whatever happens tomorrow, you must promise me one thing. THAT YOU WILL STAY WHO YOU ARE, NOT A PERFECT SOLDIER BUT A GOOD MAN." 👆This is the criteria Abraham Erskine (creator of the serum) set as the foundation for a Captain America when he CHOSE Steve Rogers by saying being a good man is "MORE IMPORTANT" than being a "Perfect soldier" (super strength, speed, etc like Bucky) whereby the serum only amplifies the good or bad in a person but it (the serum) is not the foundational requirement that defines who or what Captain America is and should be "A GOOD MAN" first and always. Basically an unshakable moral compass, pro-ethics and champion of optimism seeking to see the good in others first over how hard he can punch or how fast he can run. In the source material/ comics, Sam became Captain America in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) and is still Captain America today. (5)... Steve familiarity to Sam's bravery: Sam has shown bravery and resilience willing to engage physically stronger opponents like against mind tranced Bucky in CA2: Winnter Soldier movie AND in FATW tv series against terrorists who juiced up on super soldier serum AND will also face off against Red Hulk in upcoming CA4: Brave New World. The same heroic fearlessness Steve Rogers always had even BEFORE he became Captain America.... Remember the scene when scrawny tiny Steve was being attacked by multiple bigger stronger bullies in CA1 when he said "I can do this all day." line when he had no super soldier serum enhancement? Steve recognizes THAT in Sam. That courage to face off against greater opposition without any extra powers or abilities just like when Steve was still a smaller weakling (before the serum enhancement) but he never cowered against far bigger stronger bullies. Evidently, Sam focused his time, efforts and skills to doing good even in war he trained to RESCUE. Steve took an instant liking to Sam from the moment they met and that was BEFORE he even knew any details about Sam. Steve's instincts were right. (6)... Public Perception of Bucky: The world's perception of Bucky Barnes is still complex, given his past as the Winter Soldier. It would be challenging for him to gain the same level of trust and admiration as Steve Rogers, who was widely respected and admired. Sam Wilson does NOT have this problem. (7) ... Different Values at the time of choosing: When Steve Rogers was making his choice, Bucky's values and motivations are different from Steve Rogers. While Steve was driven by a strong sense of optimism, ethics, honor, and morality, Bucky's head was guided by a desire for redemption and personal justice and frankly the brainwash coding was not yet removed in Avengers Endgame so Steve knew Bucky was NOT ready to be the next Captain America making Sam the default logical choice. The removal of Bucky's brainwash coding occurred AFTER Avengers Endgame in Wakanda as shown in Falcon and Winter Soldier tv series (2021). (8).... Steve familiarity to Sam regarding military RESCUES: 8a) ... Steve Rogers performed several military rescues saving soldiers and hostages during WW2. Sam was an U.S military paraRESCUEmen unit (this is a real military division). This unit is also known as "Guardian Angels" in American military (yes, this is for REAL) who are the combat forces specifically organized, trained and equipped to conduct full spectrum conventional and unconventional combat RESCUE operations across during all phases of joint, coalition, and combined operations. as well as helping allies in all terrain including severely hostile situations. Basically a specializes unit performing rescues. This is more heroic and closer to Rogers experience than being a trained assassin like Bucky even though it was not Bucky's intention. 8b) ... Additionally, the U.S military pararescue unit was created during WW2 which is the same time Rogers became Captain America. 8c)... It's also crazy amazing that the American military pararescue division are called "Guardian Angels" and Sam Wilson is literary a military pararesuemen aka a "Guardian Angel" who is now Captain America.... A Guardian Angel Captain America is awesome AF in my humble opinion. In FATW ep1(Falcon and Winter Soldier tv series, episode One), we see Sam doing a military pararescue mission to rescue and extract a hostage.
This summer! A multi-verse "They" Morales taking the mantle of "Iron-America!" to save this country from itself! We didn't ask for it, but we got it! 🤑
1:25 Yeah, that's what I thought I saw from some of the background graphics on these trailers. But it just doesn't jibe with the adamantium of the comics, so it didn't/doesn't make sense. The thing about adamantium is that it is just flat-out immutable once you combine the resins and it forms up. If now in the MCU you can just hack bits off of a dead Celestial and, I guess, re-form it for other uses, what makes it better than the MCU version of vibranium, which again in the comics wasn't super-duper tough but could absorb and re-direct vibrational energy. That's one of the flaws in "Black Panther" when they didn't go all out with Klaw, or rather "Klau," as they put it. I read a re-print of a Fantastic Four comic from back in the Lee/Kirby run where KLAW had transmuted himself into a being of "solidified" sound! Okay, maybe that was too much for credulity, but at least he could have been the main heavy instead of a throwaway side villain. 6:12 Yeah, he got HANDED the shield. He didn't EARN the shield. This is the DEI Captain America. Captain DEI? 🤷♀ 7:10 They should have gotten Sam Elliot. He was the pre-MCU Thunderbolt Ross and he was better in the role than Hurt. And what the hell is Ford still acting for, anyway? Doesn't he have enough money yet? Doesn't he always seem pissed that he's in yet ANOTHER movie? Hang it up, Harry, if that's your attitude! 9:32 Does he have his hair? Is that the same way Shatner has his hair? The man pays top dollar for it, I'm sure!
Regarding Super Soldier serum and Captain America: (1) Dialogue: Doctor Abraham Erskine talking to Steve Rogers in Captain America: The First Avenger movie , 2011 (below): Doctor Abraham Erskine (creator of the serum) = "Yeah, but... there were other... effects. The serum was not ready. But MORE IMPORTANT, THE MAN. The serum amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great; bad becomes worse. This is why you were CHOSEN. Because the strong man who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power, but a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows... COMPASSION." Doctor Abraham Erskine= "Whatever happens tomorrow, you must promise me one thing. THAT YOU WILL STAY WHO YOU ARE, NOT A PERFECT SOLDIER BUT A GOOD MAN." Dr.Abraham Erskine (his final moment after getting shot)= "Stop him!"... NOTE: Said before being shot by Heinz Kruger. Before dying from his injuries, Erskine points at Steve Rogers' heart, silently reminding Steve of his promise to remain a good man priority over being a perfect soldier. 👆This is the criteria Abraham Erskine (creator of the serum) set as the foundation for a Captain America when he CHOSE Steve Rogers by saying being a good man is "MORE IMPORTANT" than being a "Perfect soldier" (super strength, speed, etc like Bucky) whereby the serum only amplifies the good or bad in a person but it (the serum) is not the foundational requirement that defines who or what Captain America is and should be "A GOOD MAN" first and always. Basically an unshakable moral compass, pro-ethics and champion of optimism seeking to see the good in others first over how hard he can punch or how fast he can run. In the source material/ comics, Sam became Captain America in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) and is still Captain America today ALONGSIDE Steve Rogers (like Peter Parker + Miles Morales BOTH = Spiderman). (2) ...New Captain does NOT NEED THE SERUM... 2a) Because he does NOT need super-strength to make him a good fighter and/or tactical combat. This is dependent on skill and training especially when he also has the strongest materials on earth (VIBRANIUM and possibly Adamantium) in his combat arsenal. This is sufficient to battle against superior strength opponents. 2b) All the feats of strength or durability New Captain America has done came AFTER he got the VIBRANIUM upgrades towards the end of FaTW/ Falcon and the Winter Soldier tv series (2019) meaning it is the vibranium doing the work of strength and durability. New Captain America is simply making application of those tools. Here is a hint, look at the strength feats Bucky/ Winter Soldier did in FATW tv series and the recent THUNDERBOLTS special look trailer.... He uses his VIBRANIUM ARM to do those feats yet he also has super-serum so ask yourself why he never uses his natural super soldier serum/sss arm. And guess what?.... Bucky's Vibranium arm is performing far much stronger feats than his biological sss arm. There is NO serum inside the vibranium arm and yet see what Bucky is doing with it.... It is basically application of tools into action just like what New Captain America is doing. Bucky may have the serum, can run faster and physically stronger due to the serum BUT THE VIBRANIUM DOES NOT NEED SERUM TO WORK. 2c) It is actually a cool idea that New Captain America does NOT take the serum because..... i) ..... It teaches that skill and talent when applied well with the right tools can pay off even against greater odds. A good work ethic. ii)..... It also shows that just because you are not enhanced on steroids or don't have superpowers does NOT mean that you can not be a superhero or do good especially when the superhero name has a COUNTRY in the name.... Captain AMERICA. iii)..... It also teaches that ANY AMERICAN with the heart for a better America and a better safer world can be worthy of Captain America. That is why the superhero name is "Captain AMERICA" NOT Captain White American or Captain Arab American or Captain Catholic American or Captain Buddhist American, etc. iv) ... Sam's wings hint at the American Eagle on the American Coat of Arms which is genius and very fitting for anyone labelled "Captain America". Steve Rogers initially hard 'wings' on his helmet to symbolize the American Eagle but ACTUALLY having wings to fly like the eagle is more fitting in my opinion. v).... If Sam took the super soldier serum, he would become a cheap copy n paste of Steve Rogers like the terrible one in FATW who chosen by the gov't then unchosen. That dude thought just having a flag on his chest + a shield + + serum automatically makes him worthy yet he did NOT have the morality that Steve saw in Sam which he why Steve chose same as his successor. If Sam took the serum it would severely diminish his individuality and uniqueness he brings to the mantle and legacy of captain america. This would be EXACTLY the complaint y'all would be ranting about if Sam took the serum. All this is NOT knocking on the brilliance of Steve Rogers but rather exalting the morals and beliefs he stands for. He was willing to sacrifice himself to save others BEFORE he got enhanced and he was told that he could die if the experiment failed but that did NOT phase him because he believed he was doing it for the betterment of humanity (3) .... Lastly, our smart self professed science nerd himself Spiderman said the VIBRANIUM shield "does NOT obey the laws of physics" in Captain America 3: Civil War. That line was not placed there by mistake. It is an outta-jail-free-card to say you do NOT need super-strength to be able to use the shield. Besides, we have seen several NORMAL PEOPLE WITH NO SUPERPOWERS carrying around the shield easily because the vibranium shield VERY light-weight despite its grandiose durability and it's bouncy freesbie-like properties. I bet a normal human freesbie champion can also use the shield very well (4) .... Oh. Just one more. New Captain VS Rulk is directly inspired from the several themes of Man vs Monster in several myths and legends which gave birth to the "underdog" when the hero is stacked against superior odds but still finds some cool way with the aid of a handy POWERFUL tool or clever trick to achieve victory so i am eagerly fascinated looking forward to see how New Captain VS Rulk will be resolved. Either way, i am hyped for that fight and for the movie in general. (5) MCU is NOT 1=1 with Marvel Comics and have never been. That has been pretty OBVIOUS from day one from the MCU started. (6) In the comics, Sam Wilson is able to handle himself just fine with NO super soldier serum even when battling physically stronger opponents so why be inauthentic when adapting the character to the big screen.
The thing is it won’t matter if there’s enough adamantium for the planet…in the comics only Wolverine was one of two or three individuals who could actually withstand the bonding….also being the strongest metal…don’t know how they would break it down to actually use it…😂
Is it true this is actually about the Serpent Society kidnapping Ross and administering a version of the Hulk serum that should have been mentioned during the She Hulk series! So the last act is Captain Falcon calming down the Red Hulk until Ross regains control but is stuck as the Red Hulk. Is that the plot of this movie?
My big question: Isn't the Celestials gonna get ticked off that other people's are using their dead fellow Celestials as resources? Weren't there supposed multiple Hosts coming to Earth at some point?
After credit scene will be the senator from the t.v. show. He'll walk out to captain African and espouse how he is indeed doing better. Truly a movie of all time.
I get Iron Man did the landing pose to highlight the armor is heavy. Makes sense. I've always preferred the Christopher Reeves soft landing. It shows he's in total control of this awesome power.
When in my team I have people removed for any reason, I don't tell people "here's the replacement for Pedro", because people are not assets that you can flip without expecting people to not notice. Just imagine they expecting us to think switching Crhis Evans for however the guy playing the Falcon is without batting an eye. Don't they hire consultants?
Old School Marvel?! I'm going to paraphrase Lloyd Bentson on this: "I knew old school Marvel. Old school Marvel was a friend of mine. Sir, you are no old school Marvel".🧐
Tim Williams from Guardians of the Galaxy arranged the rest of the score & we recorded with the abbey road band hahahah. We made it for the Disney parks in Orlando.
General Ross becoming Red Hulk sounds like General Eiling becoming The General (a hulking monster) in Justice League: Unlimited. Also... a Vibranium Suit means there's little to no stakes. Vibranium is super special awesome-ium and it stops almost everything except plot mandated injuries for dramorz.
For the uninformed..... (1) Red Hulk's weakness: Red Hulk generates heat the angrier he gets. It is also his weakness if he generates too much it overwhelms him. New Cap has vibranium suit + wings + shield (possibly rumored adamantium) which is plenty for him to drag out the fight long enough for Red Hulk/ RULK to overheat. (2) Steve Rogers leaving or passing in the mantle In the source material/ comics, Steve Rogers has died (at least twice) and retired from being Captain America (at least twice) whereby in all these scenarios someone else became the new Captain America. After one of Rogers retirement from being Captain America, he became a different superhero named NOMAD. There is speculation (unconfirmed) that Chris Evans returning MCU might be to play as NORMAD while in another (after he super soldier serum from drained from him) he became Chief of SHIELDs civilian oversight committee". (3) Legacy characters/ mantles: 3a) > Superheroes lore has a tradition of sidekicks and LEGACY characters for OVER 60 YEARS so superheroes can and have transfered and/or given and/or shared and/or picked-up their mantle with other characters. There are an abundance in superhero-dom from Blue Beetle, Flash, Green Lantern, Spiderman, Batman, Superman, ANTMAN, Hulk, Human Torch, Spawn, Robin, The Question, Solar/ Doctor Solar, The Atom, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Doctor Fate, Zorro, The Spectre, Mister Miracle, Doctor Midnite, GHOST RIDER, etc and so on. They are VERY many legacy characters. 3b) > Other than Sam Wilson becoming Captain America, there have been at least FIVE other Captain Americas other than Steve Rogers* like William Naslund, Jeffrey Mace, John Walker (currently U.S Agent in MCU after his failed Captain America stint on Falcon and Winter Soldier tv series), William Burnside and James "Bucky" Barnes/ Winter Soldier. 3c) > Notice grifters only focus on legacy characters who are NOT White inherently implying only non-whites become legacy characters which is definitively NOT true. They make it sound like Sam Wilson is the first ever legacy character to have the mantle in order to conflate this to "DEI" Rwwaaar🤣. They *NEVER* mention the other characters who also became Captain America. Lol 3d)> Notice the same grifters demand that only the original character superhero should matter yet many of the popular superheroes are NOT the originals like.... i) > GHOST RIDER- Johnny Blaze is NOT the original Ghost Rider (Carter Slade, currently named Phantom Rider) followed by MANY other legacy characters who are Ghost Riders from Danny Ketch, Alejandra Jones, Robbie Reyes, Kenshiro Cochrane, etc. ii) > ROBIN- Damian Wayne is NOT the original ROBIN (Dick Grayson, currently Nightwing and has been Batman a couple of times) and there iii)> FLASH- Barry Allen is NOT the original Flash (Jay Garrick) + MANY other legacy Flashes by Wally West, Wallace West, Bart Allen, Avery Ho, etc. iv) > GREEN LANTERN- Hal Jordan is NOT the original Green Lantern (Alan Scott) + MANY other GL characters like John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, Guy Gardner, Jade (Alan Scott's daughter), Simon Baz, Sojourner, etc all sharing the same title as GREEN Lanterns. v) .... ANTMAN- The MCU Antman protagonist/ Scott Lang is NOT the original Antman (Hank Pym) who is also in the MCU as the father to Scott Lang's love interest/ Hope Van Dyne/ WASP. Additionally, there are OTHER Antman Legacy characters like Eric O'Grady, Zayn Asghar and Raz Malhotra. vi) > HUMAN TORCH- Johnny Storm of FANTASTIC FOUR is NOT the original Human Torch (Jim Hammond). vii) > SPAWN/ Al Simmons- This is an original black superhero/ anti-hero character who has several NON-black legacy characters like Gunslinger Spawn, She-Spawn and Medieval Spawn who all came much later and now co-exist alongside original Spawn just like the different Spidermen, Flashes, Ghost Riders, Blue Beetles, etc. Additionally, Al Simmons original Spawn himself was REPLACED by a WHITE legacy character Jim Downing for a some years before Al Simmons returned. This has also happened to Superman, Spiderman, Captain America, etc. viii) > BLUE BEETLE-Ted Kord is NOT the original Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett) and yet the MOST POPULAR is hispanic Latino legacy character Jaime Reyes. ix) SPIDERMAN- There was Miguel Ohara, Ben Reilly and Kaine Parker where also "Spiderman" over a decade BEFORE Miles Morales was created in 2011 and sharing the Spiderman mantle with Peter Parker compared to before (in the 90s) when Reilly and Kaine REPLACED Peter Parker as Spiderman. They shared the mantle (Peter, Ben and Kaine) then LATER Ben Reilly became SCARLET SPIDER then + Kaine Parker joined him SHARING the mantle of SCARLET SPIDER. However, there is also another character Joe Wade who was a villain also named Scarlet Spider and a separate team of characters called the Scarlet Spiders. And all these are in Marvel comics. X) SPIDER-GIRL- This title is shared between TWO main characters Anya Corazon (aka Arana) and Mayday Parker but there are also several others like April Parker, Gwen Warren, Charlotte Morales, etc. Xi) HAWKEYE- Clint Barton (original) shares the mantle with teenage Kate Bishop and there is another new Xii) MISTER MIRACLE: Mantle shared between THREE characters... Scott Free (the 2nd and most used), Shilo Norman and Thaddeus Brown (the original). Characters created by JACK KIRBY himself in the 1970s. Xiii) MISTER TERRIFIC: The original is Terry Sloane but the most popular and beloved is the legacy character Michael Holt who will be in James Gunn's Superman movie releasing this year in July 2025. Xiv) WONDER GIRL: A title/ mantle shared between Donna Troy, Cassandra Sandsmark and Yara Flor. In recent years, Donna does not use the title as often compared to the other two characters who share the mantle. .... etc and so on. There are incredibly very VERY many across superhero lore and mythos spanning at LEAST 60 years (if not earlier) which is why it is an ongoing tradition in and across superhero history. (4) > In the source material/ comics, Sam became Captain America in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) and is still Captain America today alongside Steve Rogers in the comics. (5) > Sam has vibranium SUIT + Vibranium WINGS + Vibranium SHIELD + Adamantium also inside this movie (according to rumors). All these enhancements with such powerful materials are much STRONGER than IRONMAN's Hulkbuster armor made from ordinary materials which had NO vibranium and NO Adamantium yet Tony Stark used that to defeat an ENRAGED Hulk in Avengers 2: Age of Ultron including cracking Hulk's jaw and even tanked some hits from Hulk AND knocked a tooth out of Hulk's mouth. With those upgrades (vibranium + possible adamantium), Sam has a better chance fighting any Hulk in a dragged out combat against Red Hulk/ RULK as long as he fights smart and tactical just long enough for Sam and/or bis colleagues to to find a way to incapacitate Red Hulk/ Rulk. They have shown in the trailer how Sam's wings and suit and shield TANKING direct missiles hits without flinching and NO DAMAGE. Sam is shown using that vibranium enhancements to move FASTER THAN SOUND, making a heavy landing and TANKING sonic boom still NO DAMAGE because of the vibranium. Trailer also shows the wings can be used offensively to cut/ slice stuff like he did to the burning vehicle. They are not showing us all that in the trailer by accident. Go watch the THUNDERBOLTS trailers and see what Bucky is doing WITH HIS VIBRANIUM ARM which he can NOT do with his super soldier serum enhanced biological arm. (6) > Steve Rogers is about 185 years old now. He got very old and elderly and chose Sam to be his successor as the New Captain America in AVENGERS ENDGAME movie 2019. 6a)> Steve Rogers aging rapidly was also a plot also occurred in the comics/ source material in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) when the super soldier serum from drained from him then he chose Sam Wilson as his successor and Rogers became "Chief of SHIELDs civilian oversight committee". Thus circumstance is obviously different from the MCU but the result is the same. Steve Rogers was revitalized with his super soldier youthfulness by a sentient cosmic cube and returned to being Captain America ....but decided to share the mantle with Sam Wilson as BOTH being Captains America (like Peter Parker + Miles Morales both being Spiderman amongst many other examples (as detailed in point (2)) 6b) > Steve Rogers was about 90years old when he defrosted from the ice at the end of Captain America : First Avenger movie which brought him into the modern era in 2011 then when you add Steve's modern era time in Captain America 2+3 and Avengers 1,2,3 + 4 (9 years, 2011-2019) AND when Steve time travelled back to the mid-1940s to return to his lover PEGGY CARTER then lived through 1940s to 2019 (additional 70s years at least) AND Steve's age (about mid-20s) in Captain America 1 before he got stuck in suspended animation in the ice. All adds up to about 180 years old. This is because Steve went through about 73 years 1946 to 2019 TWICE = 146 years ADD His years in modern era (2011-2019)= 9 years ADD His initial age before he got stuck in ice in mid-1940s= mid-20s perhaps 25 years old (estimate) ADD 5 year time jump: This occurred between Infinity War and Endgame. Therefore.... ... Estimated TOTAL age (in the end of AVENGERS ENDGAME movie, 2019) = 185 years old. Hmmm.... Y'all let me know if this calculation is correct.🤔🤔🤔
The Winter Soldier having the shield would have made more sense, because of his arm, it would explain how he could throw the shield and catch it. He's still human but he's strong enough to fight off opponents that are tough, like Iron Man or Black Panther.
You can't "pass the mantle" to a character who already has his own legit mantle. As if "Captain America" is somehow a promotion or something. Imagine offering it to Thor or Vision. It just doesn't work like that. There's only one Iron Man...only one Captain America.
This panel makes me feel better about my hair line
Oof xD
@Sayquidnidly who needs a hairline when you got Craptain America.......
Xray Girl does not wear plugs!
They help the world in more ways than one!
The only things I remember from Falcon and Winter Soldier is that senators have to do better and that its not terrorism if its a cause I like.
Hahaha 😂😂 same here
I remember John Walker doing nothing wrong.
I remember John Walker, the only character with a true and interesting story arc.
I watched the first episode and it felt like a white guilt lecture.
You're out of line, but you're right.
So will this movie answer if the senator did indeed do better? All I care about.
BOOYAHHHH
SHIIIEEEEE
America deserves an answer!!!! 🇺🇸
That's him talking to Disney, and they didn't even notice, or care.
Which is the reason why I believe they didn't do better. Not 1 bit.
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Remember when Superman was about to lose the farm and Bruce Wayne bought the bank?
That was a great scene.
In a much better movie.
Steve Rogers got the serum, fought in WW2, lost his best friend, was frozen in ice, lost his girl, lead the Avengers, saved the world, and never cussed. What did Sam Wilson ever do? He's a character devoid of good lore.
When he met himself in endgame he literally said “you gotta be s*****n me”
The irony is that as Falcon HAD THE LORE!!!!
Military vet, special forces, has technical knowledge.
Injured in the line of duty and shelved.
PTSD.
Left to rot in a civilian world he doesn't fit into anymore.
THAT IS LORE!!!
From there he gets his life back and while helping other vets heal he helps a superhero heal AND BECOMES A HERO HIMSELF.
And then they rip it all off him and make him a second rate clone of someone else.
How stupid.
Falcon was a good character.
Whatever this is, is not.
And this was his chance to be THE Falcon, not the 2nd Captain.
@@Kalamain thats to real for activist disney
Diversity hire.
harrison ford lived long enough to see himself become the villain
Underrated comment
Harrison Ford took a HUGE dump on his fans over the past few years trashing much loved characters - just one more paycheck Harrison ?
Ford willingly went back to his legacy roles and allowed them to destroy those characters, he did this shit on purpose
Harrison Ford has always been an as*hole.
Some people only notice it now that he is an a*shole to them.
@@michaelwhiles5282 Yep, he's a narcissistic ahole.
He's spent decades crapping on Star Wars (and the fans), which he owes all his success to.
If he just take the super soldier serum things would be better. Because throwing a frisbee to hit 3 flying missiles requires some serious hand and eye coordination.
The last guys who was face to face with a hulk was crippled In seconds but I agree it would make the situation slightly less pathetic
That would have been the plot for what I would have done for a Falcon film. Where new super soldiers are appearing as mercenaries and Wilson investigates, discovering that someone had manages to recreate the formula of Abraham Erskine. In order to stop the new super soldiers, Wilson takes the formula and takes down the person responsible, along with help from Bucky and Hawkeye. By the end, Nick Fury recruits the three to join his new organization and to become official members of the new Avengers, which would lead up to a new Avengers movie (probably Secret Invasion or something else).
But that's living in a perfect world.
Or just make a batch of the serum and give it to Oprah so she can hand it out to everyone in the audience during her Christmas special.
Apparently, if you have enough melanin you are ALREADY a super-soldier, able to react faster than any human and tougher than the Hulk. Who knew?
@dbs311"YOU GET A SERUM! AND YOU GET A SERUM! EVERYBODY GETS A SERUM!"
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No super serum but can survive a punch from Red Hulk? A punch of 1 Million to 5 Million newtons of force? Ok. DEI confirmed. Awesome.
Even Steve Rogers shouldn't be able to take a punch from Hulk.
He's a peak human, maybe slightly enhanced but that's it
Did you see him take a punch?
@@herriothilaire1 Stop soy sucking.
Theu are gonna pretend the black panther augment make him on par😂
Also being able to throw the shield capable to destroy multiple missiles
There should be a scene in this where they say "HE FLIES NOW!?" in a very awkward forced way
Don't forget that they'll repeat it twice after to really imply that he flies now!
@@ThePhoenixScribe "YERP! He flies now!" * skips twice and then lopes past the camera *
My biggest poblem with Ford's Ross is missing the damn mustache! An icomic part of the character! They didn't give a single fuckk!
I'm pretty sure they did it because (beside the fact that the MCU hates mustaches: see Tony and Strange) because in the comic they magically disappears, when Ross become the Hulk and since this is a movie, it wouldn't be realistic.
And a big red Hulk with mustaches wouldn't be intimidating.
... and they hate mustaches. That's a fact.
@BETMARKonTube Probably because Walt rocked the 'stache and they absolutely despised the og boss man. They made Hulk also wear glasses, mustache wouldn't be sillier.
Bucky should have been given the shield and team up with the Falcon! 100% Not the other way around.
why tf would Steve make his best friend who has a lot of trauma and problems on his plate have another burden of being captain America?????
100000000000% but he is a straight white man, so he is bad.
@BruhGuy1999 better than hoodrat America.
Yall are just mad he’s black bro give the film a chance
@gangg1762 nope, mad because he is the falcon. But no a black man can't be a hero!!
Harrison Ford: "Maybe I ought to get me some of that 🤑🤑🤑"
No, he got zero enhancements from wakamda. Unless they say he juiced with the super serum, he’d be dead in half a second facing red hulk
Also, if Wakanda gave a derivative serum to the Falcon, they can also give it to the entire Wakandan army. Also, Falcon as a soldier would need to take blood tests, and the government could try to replicate the Wakanda serum formula in secret.
He has his magic jammies which make him immune to damage, even where they're not covering.
I still don't get why they decided to give the shield to a side character who to this day, NO NON COMIC READERS KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT! At least with the normies they saw Bucky was Cap's best friend and their bond, but Falcon, he was introduced as a potential friend and got along great with Steve, but there wasn't enough reason shown to give him the name of Captain America.
As a comic reader: Falcon is a staple character of Cap comics since a long, long time. So it’s not right that Cap comic readers don’t know him. BUT most Cap comic readers I know hate the time Falcon became Cap and I personally stopped reading any Cap comics due to how they changed Falcon and Steve then.
PS: The only thing that may rank higher on the hate list from Cap comics is Hydra Cap.
@@davidgantenbein9362 The problem is that... For many, the idea of a Hydra Cap **COULD** be a good story.
Mind control,
Subverted in another way.
Clone.
Whatever... And then REAL Cap comes back and kicks ass.
Or... It was a ruse to get inside.
It *COULD* be a good story.
It's funny you say this as if a normie will care. The only people who have a problem with this are comic readers ( myself included)
I showed this to my younger sister and GF and both couldn't care less but still want to watch it . If we're being honest no normal movie goer has a problem with this so chill out man
@jonathankhan7184 first off...I worded that wrong. I meant no non comic reader. Dont know why the heck I didnt catch that sooner.
@@davidgantenbein9362 ugh, I worded my comment wrong and caused way too much confusion...even to myself.🙄 I meant all non comic readers and yeah, Hydra Cap was and still is hated a lot.
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Super serum aside, Steve Rogers IS Captain America.
He wanted to fight evil when everyone else told him he was too small and frail.
He kept training, despite always being last (except that one time with the flag pole) and being mocked.
He jumped on a grenade to save the men that mocked him and doubted him.
He can do this all day. He is Captain America.
Those first movies really had the soul of Marvel
Sold it to the demon mouse though
LOL we all know the real reason Harrison Ford took the Ross role was not for fun but an 8 digit paycheck...
I never understood why they introduced Skrulls the way they did? Skrulls are a FF thing, not a Captain Marvel, Avengers or Nick Fury thing. This is what happens when you don't follow canon.
There.
Is.
No.
Such.
Thing.
As.
Canon.
(apparently)
Ff?
@@cottoncandiez8872 Fantastic Four.
@@Kalamain 😂
But the Kree Skrull war storyline from Roy Thomas
Since the Falcon served 3 tours and worked at the VA, I am sure his character could have used a military loan program to get that boat.
Or just asked Pepper Potts for a loan and she'd have given him enough money for the rest of his life.
They want us to believe he was discriminated against because of his skin colour... but banks LOVE making money. And there even exist banks run by people of his exact skin tone. So really it's just VASTLY more likely that he has a terrible credit score because he's completely irresponsible and perhaps outright criminal. Is there any reason to believe he's not millions in debt, owes child support to three baby-mamas, and got caught stealing things from Avengers stronghold?
In Antman 3, there was tonnes of Antman Merch. What company would have the balls to rip off the Avengers??? Falcon also saved the universe, he cant start a go-fund-me??
Depends if his family cant work or walk and if they are foreign to the country
then they will get it for free along with a business loan and foodstamps
I know for a fact he could because I served 2/3 of a tour and got one
They should’ve gave the shield to Bucky. We wouldn’t be saying this if they just did that. It made the most sense for a better story!
But he's whyte!
Bucky has the Super Soldier serum inside him from when Hydra had him brainwashed. Sam never took the serum so a regular guy getting hit by a Hulk would end up in a coma or dead. Doesn't make sense.
I always wondered why they didn't, it would have been so much cooler!
@MissyFaith1971 Yeah, having Sam in that suit, no matter what it's made of(vibranium/adamantium) wouldn't have stopped the blunt force trauma you see him take as he's bouncing off the cars. Even if it was made in Wakanda. Steve had super soldier serum, T'Chala ate the special flower, Sam's got none of those. He simply wouldn't have recovered.
I feel bad for Mackie with all of this. He has to know it’s just Disney marvel clinging to the message as hard as they can still. And it feels insulting the way a lot of the promotions and such talk about him and his character. A lot of verbiage and weight being thrown into this “oh he’s so much more than he ever was before” type language just feels like another round of the racists pretending to be inclusive letting the subtlety completely slip. Falcon was a great hero on his own, without needing the mantle or justification to exist with larping as the Captain. The whole thing just feels pathetic and gross from the Disney side.
Mackie is a racist himself, so no sympathy. He's joined the brigade and insisting that only bigots dislike him. Which is wild given how much he himself was complaining about this movie during production.
Bro he’s making tens of millions. lol there’s no reason to give him your sympathy
I don’t.
Harrison also nearly landed on top of a passenger jet on the taxi way he mistook for the runway.
To be fair, Marvel sucks for putting Mackie in this situation. He was a great Falcon and they should have kept him there. He’s not going to say no when offered a front line role as “Captain America” and when it ultimately loses money, they’ll have set the guy up for failure.
Producer: "Hey yo. Look look I have an idea: Captain America but he's black...and he can fly."
White boys can jump, but can they do this????
Doesn't matter what the suit is made out of, hitting the ground at over mach 1 when your are a jelly doughnut covered in any metal (...to the point there is a delayed reaction shockwave) still leaves you as a very, VERY, flat puddle of Jelly. Then you turn into a GEYSER of jelly!!!
Also, neither the super serum OR a vibranium suit will stop the sheer trauma of hitting the ground at high speed. Not a single hero or heroine is supposed to be indestructible - they are all still only flesh and blood, remember? Look at what happened to War Machine. Remember that thing called consistency, Marvel?
Well, good job it's a comic book movie and they all have plot armour and can just make shit up.
15:00 Yeah but the actor of Miles Morales would be too busy drooling and being creepy over Kate Bishop and the Vulture’s daughter, if you know what I mean.
💀
Context?
He’s a creepy dude and couldn’t pull, that’s all.
Thank you Gary and everyone on this panel and everyone thats on Nerdrotic daily, i am currently going through the worst period of my life and watching you all is one of the few times i actually laugh and smile! please keep it up! Big love!
Captain Falcon should stay in Smash Bros. where he belongs
Wait, wasn't the entirety of Tiamat turned to marble? Why does he still have an adamantium skeleton?
Don't ask questions. Just consume product and get excited for next product.
Adamantium is a rare heavy metal in the comics,so even if Tiamat was turned to stone its bones would still be adamantium,because it's impervious to physical transformation.
Are we sure the Celestial is dead, it is a Celestial, they can handle a lot. Being turned into marble would that even kill a Celestial, its more like putting it to sleep or in a coma, so mining a sleeping god does not seem like the best idea ever.
Yep, which is also lore-breaking because in Guardians of the Galaxy, Nowhere, was the decapitated head of a Celestial where they harvested bone and fluids.
They are breaking their own lore!
CAPTAIN AFRICAN AMERICA.
DO BETTER, MARVEL.
I'LL WAIT 'TIL MY LOCAL BLOCKBUSTER HAS IT.
You ppl 😂😂😂😂
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He has the power of Wokeness
The Power of One
The Power of Two
The Power of Many
oh wait, wrong disaster
I remembered the Super Adaptoid.
From an issue of the Avengers comic book, with Hercules in the roster. God, I am old.
Ah yes, Super Adaptoid was one my favorite SNES games.
I remember that also. It was around issue 41? of the original run.
I'm too young to be this old.
Harrison Ford is the schmuck who landed on a taxiway instead of the fucking runway narrowly missing a 737.
I knew Harrison Ford was a pilot, and I had also heard he was into weed, but for some reason I had never thought of those two facts at the same time. Now that I think about it, it's a bit concerning.
I thought you were supposed to be high while flying…
I'd rather fly with Bruce Dickinson. Dude's awesome.
@JoakimOtamaa Up the irons!
@@RCAvhstape Just at work I listened Powerslave, Somewhere In Time, 7th Son, No Prayer and Fear of the Dark. Holds up so well. Probably gonna skip the 2 Bruceless albums, I love Brave New World. Can't say the same about the upcoming movie with the same name, hah!
@ Powerslave is in my top 5 80s metal albums.
Steve Rogers is the only Captain America! Just like Peter Parker is the only Spider-Man!
Miles Morales is Miles Morales
Captain DEI
"Maybe I should get me some of that [money]..." --Harrison Ford
The falcon needs to be done better, he's just a exposed ironman
I have to say that a Hulk that looks like Harrison Ford is a lot cooler than one that looks like Mark Weakalo.
You have to do better, Captain African American
If there's one real problem is we never saw Sam act as a leader in any previous MCU movies. He was always following Steve. At least the comics had decades of history with the character and a very long time connection to Steve before making him Captain America. Still didn't work.
One thing I noticed that's a big difference between most "hero replacement" stories of the past and the more recent ones is the message. If you look at Death of Superman, Knightfall, or the Cap gets fired arcs, they were done to show that slapping a costume and label on someone doesn't mean they have what it takes to be Superman, Batman, or Captain America. They can still become valuable heroes in some cases, but taking these iconic roles requires certain personality traits. Conversely, today they're treated like soldier uniforms. One dies, draft another one from wherever.
Like bro try and tell me caps movies weren't a perfect set up for bucky cap and then they said nah move over white boy
Literally held the shield in every film it was obviously the original plan
What do you expect? Hollywood hates white men and wants them wiped from movies and TV entirely
Eternals sucked. They used a Korean for the character of Gilgamesh of Mesopotamia. I’m Middle Eastern and that was the biggest FU to me and my ancient Assyrian people.
Still hoping a Gilgamesh movie gets made in the future, but NOT by the West. I don't trust them with such a franchise.
Quoting your ancient Assyrian ancestors is also a big FU here, given Gilgamesh was king of Ur, a Sumerian city. Sumerians were not Assyrians, different people and different languages that were not related. The Semite people were the northern neighbors to the Sumerian people. If you are from that region, you may have Sumerian ancestors as well, but the myth doesn’t originate from Assyrians.
Welcome to how white people have been feeling for the last ten years, glad you could join the team. We had Black women Vikings, Black women as real English queens that we have many portraits of and they do not look black. Black people in 3rd Century England enslaving white people. Black women as queens of Camelot. Black English Lords in Regency Britain. Our history made an African mockery for Hollywood to desecrate.
I wasn't even aware that Marvel has put the eldest hero of recorded mythology into one of their scripts, but I'm not surprised that they messed it up...
This movie looks awesome. Looking forward to missing it
Doesn’t matter if his new suit is vibranium. It can absorb kinetic energy, but is NOT LIMITLESS! The Hulk’s strength is too powerful. Remember how Steve Roger’s shield was broken by Thanos? Same concept. He crushed Vision’s head who was also vibranium if I remember rightly. So it can’t save you from everything.
Mary Sue-per Skrull
6:17 unabashedly 🤣🤣 SHAMELESSLY captain america
I can't wait for Disney to milk this franchise further.
Lion King of the Hill: Simba's Narrow Urethra
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 Lion king 🦁 of the world: Rafiki's red monkey ass......
I’m waiting with bated breath for them to make backstories for the Hyenas and Timon. Come on Disney, you were so interested in ‘rEaLiSm’ that you exaggerated misconceptions about male lions, _why not show us the full extent of these two matriarchal species?_
They already did back stories for Timone and Pumba...
They are also gay.
Gaia is Captain Planet, by your powers combined.
Harrison Ford is the only man who can fly a refrigerator better than he can fly a plane.
The red and white suit. Yes absolutely I would have loved to have seen that! Maybe even with the variation of the dorky wings under the arms. They looked cool in the comics.
I'm sorry but won't all that fire from the explosion of whatever was thrown at Captain African American - as he summersaulted through it burn his face off?
I mean, he's not a super-soldier and he's not wearing a full mask, so how can he fly through fire from an explosion and not be singed one bit?!
If Tiamut was turned info marble and concentrated in that one part of the globe it would throw off the spin of the planet having the center of gravity completely off center. In short, it would destroy the planet either way. As for invasion….better left un talked about.
This movie's giving me ice cold feels.
I don't recall the queen of chromatic dragons having adamantium or vibranium or whatever. :-)
Takhisis rolls in her grave
You guys pumped like I am to see the extended cuts of 1990 Captain America totally different movie I hear
The superhero landing pose will forever be made iconic in my eyes since the first Deadpool movie. It’s really bad on the knees
17:01. Doesn't the Red Skull in the MCU also have the super serum (or had it)?
If they would have just made him Cap, work in a reason for him to have to take the serum, perhaps he has to make a difficult decision.....it could have worked with a great script. Seeeing him as Cap with wings is so goofy. Instead, they have to hand wave away the fact that he's not a supersoldier, the entire backbone of the character.
Harrison Ford has a net worth of $300 million. I don't know why he is signing up for bad movies, but I don't think he needs the money.
But isn’t the money thing from one of his own interviews?
Net worth isn't how much money you have.
And net worth doesn't include any debts.
Net worth is not the same as having money on hand.
He can be worth 300 million and have 50k in his bank account.
@@oldgregg86. Net Worth = Assets - Liabilities (or debts). Lol
Found site of rare metal: "Is Wakanda going to build an ethno-state around it?" 😂
It’s Dora Milaje.
But yeah, Hakuma Tate is so much better.
The trouble with these interconntected movie series and TV shows that, to make the audience care about this franchise you need to address the things that happen within that series, which currently they do address some but ignore really major events that really need to be addressed. This started at th end of phase 3 with the blip with so many questions unanswered and has got steadly worse from there, with every movie wanting their moment of increasing world altering spectacle, then that is ignored in the next movie or TV series.
Disney oversturated the superhero genre and has effectively killed it making it non profitable. Disney are popularity vampires, taking a popular franchise and sucking it dry for profit and then animating the dead corpse to try make more money.
Hey Marvel: You gotta stop calling him Captain America... 😉
Crazy to think that we're halfway into the current decade now. Just seeing the current state of the MCU really puts into perspective how good we had it. I remember back in 2015, the MCU was on top of the freaking world, both Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy just came out the year previous, and Age of Ultron was the next big exciting movie. How the times have changed.
Not a super skrull but a supper skrull......
Why Steve chose Sam as his successor NOT Bucky:
(1) ... Bucky's Emotional Baggage:
Bucky's experiences as the Winter Soldier and his subsequent struggles with PTSD make it challenging for him to take on the responsibility of being Captain America. The weight of his past actions and the guilt he carries would be a heavy burden. Steve Rogers did want that on him and also it does NOT set him as "ready" to be the symbol for an entire nation and the world.
(2).... Lack of symbolic Morality:
Although Bucky has made significant progress in redeeming himself, he still struggles with the moral implications of his past actions as the Winter Soldier. Captain America's mantle requires a strong moral compass, which Steve Rogers embodied and Steve saw that more in Sam.
(3) ... Steve familiarity to Sam's Volunteer manner:
In Captain America 1:The First Avenger (2011), Bucky Barnes was actually AGAINST Steve Rogers joining the army. When Steve expressed his desire to enlist, Bucky tried to dissuade him, citing concerns about Steve's physical limitations and the dangers of war but Steve still volunteered to join the army even after knowing how much of a weakling he was (before the serum). And even when he was chosen, he was told the experiment might NOT be successful but Steve still VOLUNTEERED to proceed.
Dr. Abraham Erskine warns Steve Rogers (Captain America: The First Avenger, 2011).... "We've had... problems with the serum. Unstable results. One subject grew too aggressive. Another... didn't survive."
Sam Wilson is the FIRST person who is NOT connected or affiliated to SHIELD or any of the superheroes in any way to VOLUNTEER his help into active missions with Captain America and the Avengers. I repeat Sam VOLUNTEERED (Captain America 2: Winter Soldier movie 2014). Sam was NOT recruited like Nick Fury did to Tony Stark/ Ironman and he was not given command order like Nick Fury did to Black Widow for her to spy on Ironman/ Tony. Sam put his life on the line LITERALLY several times just to aid Steve.
Dialogue between Steve and Sam (Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)....
Sam Wilson: "You need help, Cap?"
Steve Rogers: "I'm not asking."
Sam Wilson: "Didn't think you were. When do we start?"
Sam VOLUNTEERED the same way Steve did to join the super serum experiments and when Steve volunteered to join the army AGAINST Bucky's advise and when Steve Volunteered to save Allied forces POWs in Captain America 1 movie 2011.
(4)... Dialogue: Dr.Abraham Erkine to Steve Rogers (Captain America 1: First Avenger, 2011).
Dr.Abraham Erskine= "Yeah, but... there were other... effects. The serum was not ready. But MORE IMPORTANT, THE MAN. The serum amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great; bad becomes worse. This is why you were CHOSEN. Because the strong man who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power, but a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows... COMPASSION."
Dr.Abraham Erskine= "Whatever happens tomorrow, you must promise me one thing. THAT YOU WILL STAY WHO YOU ARE, NOT A PERFECT SOLDIER BUT A GOOD MAN."
👆This is the criteria Abraham Erskine (creator of the serum) set as the foundation for a Captain America when he CHOSE Steve Rogers by saying being a good man is "MORE IMPORTANT" than being a "Perfect soldier" (super strength, speed, etc like Bucky) whereby the serum only amplifies the good or bad in a person but it (the serum) is not the foundational requirement that defines who or what Captain America is and should be "A GOOD MAN" first and always. Basically an unshakable moral compass, pro-ethics and champion of optimism seeking to see the good in others first over how hard he can punch or how fast he can run.
In the source material/ comics, Sam became Captain America in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) and is still Captain America today.
(5)... Steve familiarity to Sam's bravery:
Sam has shown bravery and resilience willing to engage physically stronger opponents like against mind tranced Bucky in CA2: Winnter Soldier movie AND in FATW tv series against terrorists who juiced up on super soldier serum AND will also face off against Red Hulk in upcoming CA4: Brave New World. The same heroic fearlessness Steve Rogers always had even BEFORE he became Captain America.... Remember the scene when scrawny tiny Steve was being attacked by multiple bigger stronger bullies in CA1 when he said "I can do this all day." line when he had no super soldier serum enhancement?
Steve recognizes THAT in Sam. That courage to face off against greater opposition without any extra powers or abilities just like when Steve was still a smaller weakling (before the serum enhancement) but he never cowered against far bigger stronger bullies.
Evidently, Sam focused his time, efforts and skills to doing good even in war he trained to RESCUE. Steve took an instant liking to Sam from the moment they met and that was BEFORE he even knew any details about Sam. Steve's instincts were right.
(6)... Public Perception of Bucky:
The world's perception of Bucky Barnes is still complex, given his past as the Winter Soldier. It would be challenging for him to gain the same level of trust and admiration as Steve Rogers, who was widely respected and admired. Sam Wilson does NOT have this problem.
(7) ... Different Values at the time of choosing:
When Steve Rogers was making his choice, Bucky's values and motivations are different from Steve Rogers. While Steve was driven by a strong sense of optimism, ethics, honor, and morality, Bucky's head was guided by a desire for redemption and personal justice and frankly the brainwash coding was not yet removed in Avengers Endgame so Steve knew Bucky was NOT ready to be the next Captain America making Sam the default logical choice.
The removal of Bucky's brainwash coding occurred AFTER Avengers Endgame in Wakanda as shown in Falcon and Winter Soldier tv series (2021).
(8).... Steve familiarity to Sam regarding military RESCUES:
8a) ... Steve Rogers performed several military rescues saving soldiers and hostages during WW2.
Sam was an U.S military paraRESCUEmen unit (this is a real military division). This unit is also known as "Guardian Angels" in American military (yes, this is for REAL) who are the combat forces specifically organized, trained and equipped to conduct full spectrum conventional and unconventional combat RESCUE operations across during all phases of joint, coalition, and combined operations. as well as helping allies in all terrain including severely hostile situations. Basically a specializes unit performing rescues.
This is more heroic and closer to Rogers experience than being a trained assassin like Bucky even though it was not Bucky's intention.
8b) ... Additionally, the U.S military pararescue unit was created during WW2 which is the same time Rogers became Captain America.
8c)... It's also crazy amazing that the American military pararescue division are called "Guardian Angels" and Sam Wilson is literary a military pararesuemen aka a "Guardian Angel" who is now Captain America.... A Guardian Angel Captain America is awesome AF in my humble opinion.
In FATW ep1(Falcon and Winter Soldier tv series, episode One), we see Sam doing a military pararescue mission to rescue and extract a hostage.
Seeing Harrison Ford play as General Ross is one of those pinch a loaf moments. 😂😂😂
This summer! A multi-verse "They" Morales taking the mantle of "Iron-America!" to save this country from itself! We didn't ask for it, but we got it! 🤑
that thumbnail is Effin Hilarious ! Aha!
Thanks for the outro music. Such a great song.
Grumpy Grandpa here. Hell no. That is not Captain America.😂😂😂😂😂
1:25 Yeah, that's what I thought I saw from some of the background graphics on these trailers. But it just doesn't jibe with the adamantium of the comics, so it didn't/doesn't make sense. The thing about adamantium is that it is just flat-out immutable once you combine the resins and it forms up. If now in the MCU you can just hack bits off of a dead Celestial and, I guess, re-form it for other uses, what makes it better than the MCU version of vibranium, which again in the comics wasn't super-duper tough but could absorb and re-direct vibrational energy.
That's one of the flaws in "Black Panther" when they didn't go all out with Klaw, or rather "Klau," as they put it. I read a re-print of a Fantastic Four comic from back in the Lee/Kirby run where KLAW had transmuted himself into a being of "solidified" sound! Okay, maybe that was too much for credulity, but at least he could have been the main heavy instead of a throwaway side villain.
6:12 Yeah, he got HANDED the shield. He didn't EARN the shield. This is the DEI Captain America. Captain DEI? 🤷♀
7:10 They should have gotten Sam Elliot. He was the pre-MCU Thunderbolt Ross and he was better in the role than Hurt. And what the hell is Ford still acting for, anyway? Doesn't he have enough money yet? Doesn't he always seem pissed that he's in yet ANOTHER movie? Hang it up, Harry, if that's your attitude!
9:32 Does he have his hair? Is that the same way Shatner has his hair? The man pays top dollar for it, I'm sure!
Regarding Super Soldier serum and Captain America:
(1) Dialogue: Doctor Abraham Erskine talking to Steve Rogers in Captain America: The First Avenger movie , 2011 (below):
Doctor Abraham Erskine (creator of the serum) = "Yeah, but... there were other... effects. The serum was not ready. But MORE IMPORTANT, THE MAN. The serum amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great; bad becomes worse. This is why you were CHOSEN. Because the strong man who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power, but a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows... COMPASSION."
Doctor Abraham Erskine= "Whatever happens tomorrow, you must promise me one thing. THAT YOU WILL STAY WHO YOU ARE, NOT A PERFECT SOLDIER BUT A GOOD MAN."
Dr.Abraham Erskine (his final moment after getting shot)= "Stop him!"... NOTE: Said before being shot by Heinz Kruger. Before dying from his injuries, Erskine points at Steve Rogers' heart, silently reminding Steve of his promise to remain a good man priority over being a perfect soldier.
👆This is the criteria Abraham Erskine (creator of the serum) set as the foundation for a Captain America when he CHOSE Steve Rogers by saying being a good man is "MORE IMPORTANT" than being a "Perfect soldier" (super strength, speed, etc like Bucky) whereby the serum only amplifies the good or bad in a person but it (the serum) is not the foundational requirement that defines who or what Captain America is and should be "A GOOD MAN" first and always. Basically an unshakable moral compass, pro-ethics and champion of optimism seeking to see the good in others first over how hard he can punch or how fast he can run.
In the source material/ comics, Sam became Captain America in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) and is still Captain America today ALONGSIDE Steve Rogers (like Peter Parker + Miles Morales BOTH = Spiderman).
(2) ...New Captain does NOT NEED THE SERUM...
2a) Because he does NOT need super-strength to make him a good fighter and/or tactical combat. This is dependent on skill and training especially when he also has the strongest materials on earth (VIBRANIUM and possibly Adamantium) in his combat arsenal. This is sufficient to battle against superior strength opponents.
2b) All the feats of strength or durability New Captain America has done came AFTER he got the VIBRANIUM upgrades towards the end of FaTW/ Falcon and the Winter Soldier tv series (2019) meaning it is the vibranium doing the work of strength and durability. New Captain America is simply making application of those tools.
Here is a hint, look at the strength feats Bucky/ Winter Soldier did in FATW tv series and the recent THUNDERBOLTS special look trailer.... He uses his VIBRANIUM ARM to do those feats yet he also has super-serum so ask yourself why he never uses his natural super soldier serum/sss arm. And guess what?.... Bucky's Vibranium arm is performing far much stronger feats than his biological sss arm.
There is NO serum inside the vibranium arm and yet see what Bucky is doing with it.... It is basically application of tools into action just like what New Captain America is doing. Bucky may have the serum, can run faster and physically stronger due to the serum BUT THE VIBRANIUM DOES NOT NEED SERUM TO WORK.
2c) It is actually a cool idea that New Captain America does NOT take the serum because.....
i) ..... It teaches that skill and talent when applied well with the right tools can pay off even against greater odds. A good work ethic.
ii)..... It also shows that just because you are not enhanced on steroids or don't have superpowers does NOT mean that you can not be a superhero or do good especially when the superhero name has a COUNTRY in the name.... Captain AMERICA.
iii)..... It also teaches that ANY AMERICAN with the heart for a better America and a better safer world can be worthy of Captain America. That is why the superhero name is "Captain AMERICA" NOT Captain White American or Captain Arab American or Captain Catholic American or Captain Buddhist American, etc.
iv) ... Sam's wings hint at the American Eagle on the American Coat of Arms which is genius and very fitting for anyone labelled "Captain America". Steve Rogers initially hard 'wings' on his helmet to symbolize the American Eagle but ACTUALLY having wings to fly like the eagle is more fitting in my opinion.
v).... If Sam took the super soldier serum, he would become a cheap copy n paste of Steve Rogers like the terrible one in FATW who chosen by the gov't then unchosen. That dude thought just having a flag on his chest + a shield + + serum automatically makes him worthy yet he did NOT have the morality that Steve saw in Sam which he why Steve chose same as his successor. If Sam took the serum it would severely diminish his individuality and uniqueness he brings to the mantle and legacy of captain america. This would be EXACTLY the complaint y'all would be ranting about if Sam took the serum.
All this is NOT knocking on the brilliance of Steve Rogers but rather exalting the morals and beliefs he stands for. He was willing to sacrifice himself to save others BEFORE he got enhanced and he was told that he could die if the experiment failed but that did NOT phase him because he believed he was doing it for the betterment of humanity
(3) .... Lastly, our smart self professed science nerd himself Spiderman said the VIBRANIUM shield "does NOT obey the laws of physics" in Captain America 3: Civil War. That line was not placed there by mistake. It is an outta-jail-free-card to say you do NOT need super-strength to be able to use the shield. Besides, we have seen several NORMAL PEOPLE WITH NO SUPERPOWERS carrying around the shield easily because the vibranium shield VERY light-weight despite its grandiose durability and it's bouncy freesbie-like properties. I bet a normal human freesbie champion can also use the shield very well
(4) .... Oh. Just one more. New Captain VS Rulk is directly inspired from the several themes of Man vs Monster in several myths and legends which gave birth to the "underdog" when the hero is stacked against superior odds but still finds some cool way with the aid of a handy POWERFUL tool or clever trick to achieve victory so i am eagerly fascinated looking forward to see how New Captain VS Rulk will be resolved. Either way, i am hyped for that fight and for the movie in general.
(5) MCU is NOT 1=1 with Marvel Comics and have never been. That has been pretty OBVIOUS from day one from the MCU started.
(6) In the comics, Sam Wilson is able to handle himself just fine with NO super soldier serum even when battling physically stronger opponents so why be inauthentic when adapting the character to the big screen.
Regarding Harrison Ford's sudden need for money, I quote Red Letter Media: "What does he need, a bigger headstone!?"
The thing is it won’t matter if there’s enough adamantium for the planet…in the comics only Wolverine was one of two or three individuals who could actually withstand the bonding….also being the strongest metal…don’t know how they would break it down to actually use it…😂
Steve Rogers is Captain America.
I guess Mackies had a smile on his face for about three years because he keeps making "Captain America" over and over again
Is it true this is actually about the Serpent Society kidnapping Ross and administering a version of the Hulk serum that should have been mentioned during the She Hulk series!
So the last act is Captain Falcon calming down the Red Hulk until Ross regains control but is stuck as the Red Hulk.
Is that the plot of this movie?
My big question: Isn't the Celestials gonna get ticked off that other people's are using their dead fellow Celestials as resources? Weren't there supposed multiple Hosts coming to Earth at some point?
@14:53 I think it was the... Summer Mercenary?
Honestly, I'd watch a game of Cricket if Haley Attwell was playing in it. Her character and performance in Mission Impossible were exquisite.
"You're not steve rogers and you're not captain America. Now go wait in the van African American falcon."
Did you see that IGN gave Section 31 a score of 2 - painful, I was rolling on the floor with laughter. 🤣🤣
After credit scene will be the senator from the t.v. show. He'll walk out to captain African and espouse how he is indeed doing better. Truly a movie of all time.
John Walker did nothing wrong.
HE DOES LOOK LIKE DSP!!
I don’t believe this Captain America can kill an ice troll in less than ten seconds.
I get Iron Man did the landing pose to highlight the armor is heavy. Makes sense. I've always preferred the Christopher Reeves soft landing. It shows he's in total control of this awesome power.
I like how in the preview he stopped a rocket with the shield, and then could still hear and move 🤨
When in my team I have people removed for any reason, I don't tell people "here's the replacement for Pedro", because people are not assets that you can flip without expecting people to not notice. Just imagine they expecting us to think switching Crhis Evans for however the guy playing the Falcon is without batting an eye.
Don't they hire consultants?
Old School Marvel?!
I'm going to paraphrase Lloyd Bentson on this:
"I knew old school Marvel. Old school Marvel was a friend of mine. Sir, you are no old school Marvel".🧐
Wait I think I did the percussion for that version of Hakuna Matata lmfao 😂
Tim Williams from Guardians of the Galaxy arranged the rest of the score & we recorded with the abbey road band hahahah. We made it for the Disney parks in Orlando.
I haven’t heard it in 4 years lmao. Very cool!
It means no profits for the rest of your days 😢😂
General Ross becoming Red Hulk sounds like General Eiling becoming The General (a hulking monster) in Justice League: Unlimited.
Also... a Vibranium Suit means there's little to no stakes. Vibranium is super special awesome-ium and it stops almost everything except plot mandated injuries for dramorz.
For the uninformed.....
(1) Red Hulk's weakness:
Red Hulk generates heat the angrier he gets. It is also his weakness if he generates too much it overwhelms him. New Cap has vibranium suit + wings + shield (possibly rumored adamantium) which is plenty for him to drag out the fight long enough for Red Hulk/ RULK to overheat.
(2) Steve Rogers leaving or passing in the mantle
In the source material/ comics, Steve Rogers has died (at least twice) and retired from being Captain America (at least twice) whereby in all these scenarios someone else became the new Captain America. After one of Rogers retirement from being Captain America, he became a different superhero named NOMAD. There is speculation (unconfirmed) that Chris Evans returning MCU might be to play as NORMAD while in another (after he super soldier serum from drained from him) he became Chief of SHIELDs civilian oversight committee".
(3) Legacy characters/ mantles:
3a) > Superheroes lore has a tradition of sidekicks and LEGACY characters for OVER 60 YEARS so superheroes can and have transfered and/or given and/or shared and/or picked-up their mantle with other characters. There are an abundance in superhero-dom from Blue Beetle, Flash, Green Lantern, Spiderman, Batman, Superman, ANTMAN, Hulk, Human Torch, Spawn, Robin, The Question, Solar/ Doctor Solar, The Atom, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Doctor Fate, Zorro, The Spectre, Mister Miracle, Doctor Midnite, GHOST RIDER, etc and so on. They are VERY many legacy characters.
3b) > Other than Sam Wilson becoming Captain America, there have been at least FIVE other Captain Americas other than Steve Rogers* like William Naslund, Jeffrey Mace, John Walker (currently U.S Agent in MCU after his failed Captain America stint on Falcon and Winter Soldier tv series), William Burnside and James "Bucky" Barnes/ Winter Soldier.
3c) > Notice grifters only focus on legacy characters who are NOT White inherently implying only non-whites become legacy characters which is definitively NOT true. They make it sound like Sam Wilson is the first ever legacy character to have the mantle in order to conflate this to "DEI" Rwwaaar🤣. They *NEVER* mention the other characters who also became Captain America. Lol
3d)> Notice the same grifters demand that only the original character superhero should matter yet many of the popular superheroes are NOT the originals like....
i) > GHOST RIDER- Johnny Blaze is NOT the original Ghost Rider (Carter Slade, currently named Phantom Rider) followed by MANY other legacy characters who are Ghost Riders from Danny Ketch, Alejandra Jones, Robbie Reyes, Kenshiro Cochrane, etc.
ii) > ROBIN- Damian Wayne is NOT the original ROBIN (Dick Grayson, currently Nightwing and has been Batman a couple of times) and there
iii)> FLASH- Barry Allen is NOT the original Flash (Jay Garrick) + MANY other legacy Flashes by Wally West, Wallace West, Bart Allen, Avery Ho, etc.
iv) > GREEN LANTERN- Hal Jordan is NOT the original Green Lantern (Alan Scott) + MANY other GL characters like John Stewart, Kyle Rayner, Guy Gardner, Jade (Alan Scott's daughter), Simon Baz, Sojourner, etc all sharing the same title as GREEN Lanterns.
v) .... ANTMAN- The MCU Antman protagonist/ Scott Lang is NOT the original Antman (Hank Pym) who is also in the MCU as the father to Scott Lang's love interest/ Hope Van Dyne/ WASP. Additionally, there are OTHER Antman Legacy characters like Eric O'Grady, Zayn Asghar and Raz Malhotra.
vi) > HUMAN TORCH- Johnny Storm of FANTASTIC FOUR is NOT the original Human Torch (Jim Hammond).
vii) > SPAWN/ Al Simmons- This is an original black superhero/ anti-hero character who has several NON-black legacy characters like Gunslinger Spawn, She-Spawn and Medieval Spawn who all came much later and now co-exist alongside original Spawn just like the different Spidermen, Flashes, Ghost Riders, Blue Beetles, etc. Additionally, Al Simmons original Spawn himself was REPLACED by a WHITE legacy character Jim Downing for a some years before Al Simmons returned. This has also happened to Superman, Spiderman, Captain America, etc.
viii) > BLUE BEETLE-Ted Kord is NOT the original Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett) and yet the MOST POPULAR is hispanic Latino legacy character Jaime Reyes.
ix) SPIDERMAN- There was Miguel Ohara, Ben Reilly and Kaine Parker where also "Spiderman" over a decade BEFORE Miles Morales was created in 2011 and sharing the Spiderman mantle with Peter Parker compared to before (in the 90s) when Reilly and Kaine REPLACED Peter Parker as Spiderman. They shared the mantle (Peter, Ben and Kaine) then LATER Ben Reilly became SCARLET SPIDER then + Kaine Parker joined him SHARING the mantle of SCARLET SPIDER.
However, there is also another character Joe Wade who was a villain also named Scarlet Spider and a separate team of characters called the Scarlet Spiders. And all these are in Marvel comics.
X) SPIDER-GIRL- This title is shared between TWO main characters Anya Corazon (aka Arana) and Mayday Parker but there are also several others like April Parker, Gwen Warren, Charlotte Morales, etc.
Xi) HAWKEYE- Clint Barton (original) shares the mantle with teenage Kate Bishop and there is another new
Xii) MISTER MIRACLE: Mantle shared between THREE characters... Scott Free (the 2nd and most used), Shilo Norman and Thaddeus Brown (the original). Characters created by JACK KIRBY himself in the 1970s.
Xiii) MISTER TERRIFIC: The original is Terry Sloane but the most popular and beloved is the legacy character Michael Holt who will be in James Gunn's Superman movie releasing this year in July 2025.
Xiv) WONDER GIRL: A title/ mantle shared between
Donna Troy, Cassandra Sandsmark and Yara Flor. In recent years, Donna does not use the title as often compared to the other two characters who share the mantle.
.... etc and so on. There are incredibly very VERY many across superhero lore and mythos spanning at LEAST 60 years (if not earlier) which is why it is an ongoing tradition in and across superhero history.
(4) > In the source material/ comics, Sam became Captain America in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) and is still Captain America today alongside Steve Rogers in the comics.
(5) > Sam has vibranium SUIT + Vibranium WINGS + Vibranium SHIELD + Adamantium also inside this movie (according to rumors). All these enhancements with such powerful materials are much STRONGER than IRONMAN's Hulkbuster armor made from ordinary materials which had NO vibranium and NO Adamantium yet Tony Stark used that to defeat an ENRAGED Hulk in Avengers 2: Age of Ultron including cracking Hulk's jaw and even tanked some hits from Hulk AND knocked a tooth out of Hulk's mouth.
With those upgrades (vibranium + possible adamantium), Sam has a better chance fighting any Hulk in a dragged out combat against Red Hulk/ RULK as long as he fights smart and tactical just long enough for Sam and/or bis colleagues to to find a way to incapacitate Red Hulk/ Rulk.
They have shown in the trailer how Sam's wings and suit and shield TANKING direct missiles hits without flinching and NO DAMAGE.
Sam is shown using that vibranium enhancements to move FASTER THAN SOUND, making a heavy landing and TANKING sonic boom still NO DAMAGE because of the vibranium.
Trailer also shows the wings can be used offensively to cut/ slice stuff like he did to the burning vehicle.
They are not showing us all that in the trailer by accident. Go watch the THUNDERBOLTS trailers and see what Bucky is doing WITH HIS VIBRANIUM ARM which he can NOT do with his super soldier serum enhanced biological arm.
(6) > Steve Rogers is about 185 years old now. He got very old and elderly and chose Sam to be his successor as the New Captain America in AVENGERS ENDGAME movie 2019.
6a)> Steve Rogers aging rapidly was also a plot also occurred in the comics/ source material in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) when the super soldier serum from drained from him then he chose Sam Wilson as his successor and Rogers became "Chief of SHIELDs civilian oversight committee". Thus circumstance is obviously different from the MCU but the result is the same. Steve Rogers was revitalized with his super soldier youthfulness by a sentient cosmic cube and returned to being Captain America ....but decided to share the mantle with Sam Wilson as BOTH being Captains America (like Peter Parker + Miles Morales both being Spiderman amongst many other examples (as detailed in point (2))
6b) > Steve Rogers was about 90years old when he defrosted from the ice at the end of Captain America : First Avenger movie which brought him into the modern era in 2011 then when you add Steve's modern era time in Captain America 2+3 and Avengers 1,2,3 + 4 (9 years, 2011-2019) AND when Steve time travelled back to the mid-1940s to return to his lover PEGGY CARTER then lived through 1940s to 2019 (additional 70s years at least) AND Steve's age (about mid-20s) in Captain America 1 before he got stuck in suspended animation in the ice. All adds up to about 180 years old.
This is because Steve went through about 73 years 1946 to 2019 TWICE = 146 years
ADD His years in modern era (2011-2019)= 9 years
ADD His initial age before he got stuck in ice in mid-1940s= mid-20s perhaps 25 years old (estimate)
ADD 5 year time jump: This occurred between Infinity War and Endgame.
Therefore....
... Estimated TOTAL age (in the end of AVENGERS ENDGAME movie, 2019) = 185 years old.
Hmmm.... Y'all let me know if this calculation is correct.🤔🤔🤔
The best homage to Kirby is the Scooby Doo movie with KISS.
The Winter Soldier having the shield would have made more sense, because of his arm, it would explain how he could throw the shield and catch it. He's still human but he's strong enough to fight off opponents that are tough, like Iron Man or Black Panther.
You can't "pass the mantle" to a character who already has his own legit mantle. As if "Captain America" is somehow a promotion or something. Imagine offering it to Thor or Vision. It just doesn't work like that. There's only one Iron Man...only one Captain America.