The whole "fish people" and "futuristic tech" stuff associated with Atlantis is largely a modern invention. The ancient Greek authors described Atlantis as a maybe-Greek, maybe non-Greek civilization with better-than-average (bronze age) technology, but not much beyond that. As for the flooding itself, the city is not, to my knowledge, described as living on through the floods; rather, the flooding is said to have destroyed the city. So it's basically saying that an entire city-state at one point got the gods mad at them and were destroyed by water. I class it with the other flood legends that every culture seems to have.
@Glauber Glousger What's even more interesting is that the names of many of the main characters are similar. Of course the Bible's "Noah", but you also have the Chinese "Nu-Wah" (I don't know the Hanzi for it) and the Hawaiian Nu'u are examples. Bizarre.
@@thekingsbard6132 From what I've heard, at least some of the pacific island stories are due to early missionaries trying to spread biblical stories to the islanders, but after they left and many decades went by, most of the Christian mythology was forgotten, but the story of Noah got partially remembered because a flood story resonated with people living on an island surrounded by sea. It's also worth noting the story of Noah itself is very similar to the older Babylonian story of Utnapishtim, and many believe the Hebrews came up with Noah after encountering said story during the Babylonian captivity. Basically, we have so many flood stories because people have been copying and rebooting stories for millenia.
3:54 No, this is totally true! I too was sailing on the Black Sea, doing some fishing, when all of a sudden I pulled a pale, humanoid *creature* from the depths. It screeched in a horrible gibberish: "сука блять!" I quickly threw it back. Damn Russian snorkelers smh
Always remember that the story of Atlantis was written by Plato. Plato wrote entirely fictional allegories. Believing in Atlantis is the same as believing Plato had a magical ring that could turn him invisible.
I don’t think fishermen tend to lie, but rather that getting good/accurate accounts of fish can be sketchy. The first one is described as having a crescent fin similar to that of a shark, the only weird thing was the explanation that it had weird proportions which is easily explained by refraction of the waters surface changing due to the shape of waves. Fishermen often see these creatures through the water and often close to night when it is both very dim and through the surface of the water, both making it difficult to give an accurate description of their encounters. I think that this happens a lot, and it is much like how when it is dark and you are tired, you may see a shadow and think it is a man when it’s just a coat hanging on a chair. They saw a fish and couldn’t tell what it was so they did their best to describe it
To be fair, the first 'account' is from Herodotus. This is the same Greek historian that wrote in his book, The Histories, that 'there are giant ants that dig for gold and chase merchants in India' and that modern historians say you have to divide any number he wrote down by 10 in order to close an approximation of what might have maybe possibly been kinda accurate, so it was probably just a piece of driftwood with some barnacles on it and he went fuckin nuts with it.
Yeah, and fishermen aren't artists. Hard to give a visual representation if you can't draw it, and hard to explain it to an artist if you lack the words to convey what you saw.
@@shrekthenoob too be fair he practically just walked around and asked random villagers where he was, who they were and things of note that happend there/nearby. A lot of folk lore or local legends would naturally be mixed in
The tunnels are a real thing, and for some time, before the wars and all were used by farmers to move livestock for sale in Turkey and it like...makes sense? People found tunnels that lead underneath the sea and are straight route to another country and it is easier and cheaper to move animals like cows or sheep by walking them rather than having to put them on a boat. Now those farmers didn't built those tunnels, they existed before and it is true that researchers don't exactly know who and why built those tunnels.
10:25 No, the whole point of Atlantis is a big powerful maritime kingdom built forming concentric rings in the water sinking. The mermaids, underwater civilizations and futuristic technology are just pop culture additions.
Atlantis was literally just an allegory about decadence and why Athens is so cool. It was political propaganda, nothing more. (I should note that it is possible that Atlantis was based off an actual city near Crete which was destroyed by a volcano)
The black sea is not landlocked lol, that's the reason istanbul was the capital of many empires over history, it sits at the gate of the black sea meaning that is the only place people can travel threw withought landing
Yeah don’t remember exactly who wrote it (because philosophy is painful for me) it’s just the idea of Atlantis was just so cool people refused to believe it was fake. (To be fair mr author man my brain refuses to remember, DID go all out on his world building for it.)
Zak: did the black sea even exist at the time when atlantis was written about? Me: i'm sorry what? It's a sea that covers 400000 (approx) km².. this waterbody turned from a freshwater lake to a saltwater sea about 7000 years ago while atlantis was written about 2300 years ago
Acxually that Tunnel system is very mysterious since it had existed for a while and was used to transport animals since it was cheaper than doing it via boat. No one knows who made those so i give the dude that one.
Don't. Tunnels don't necessarily need to have been made by a single occupant. Since they have been used for a long time it absolutely makes sense that something that already existed was improved. Claiming that it needed deep knowledge of engineering misses the point that there were a lot of people who knew a lot about it.
@@eneyavorodecky ok let me rephrase what they said without changing what they said. We don't know what people group made them. There, literally the exact same thing
11:45 legends mostly speak about atlantis being a city with multiple rings, build that way because of some natural phenomenon. An example of a similar shape is the eye of the sahara (21.114768, -11.381917) The biggest advantage of building everything on the rings, is that water can transport things way easier then land, and it's more defendable to boot. Especially with ancient technology, settling near a lot of water is about the smartest thing to do. Even today most cargo is moved over large distances by boat.
The biggest problem with the eye is that I’m not sure if anyone knew about it back then, and passed it on, Also, the only natural phenomenon that could cause concentric rings are asteroids and calderas, Or erosion, but that’s unlikely to happen
That story about the humanoids at 4:00 sounded less like mermaids and more like H.P. Lovecraft's accounts of fish people in the book "The Shadow over Innsmouth", in my opinion
Some of the crazy, outlandish sea monster stories come from sailors being drunk (occasionally high) and/or extremely sleep deprived. I personally believe it's also possible that they were cautionary tales told by captains to make sure their crew would do their jobs properly. Get them to fear that if they don't keep the ship running right, a sea monster could catch up.
I'm fairly sure that the Black sea existed when Atlantis sunk. But the legend was probably made when a part of the island of Thera ( modern day Santorini ) sunk due to a volcanic eruption. I don't know where they got the impression that Atlantis was in the Black sea.
Atlantis is probably a purposefully fictional story Plato made and yes the black sea was around in the ancient Greek days. The black sea is distinctly not landlocked as there is a straight of Gibraltar like area between Thrace and northwest Anatolia.
@@Don_Kedic that's what I'm saying! Greek mythology is full of cool fictional stories. All take inspiration from rl events but always mythical (look at the Trojan invasion), so why Atlantis is 100% exactly like Plato described.
I am Turkish and this is the first time i hear about these Black Sea “creatures”. By the way I really love all your videos, thank you for making me laugh uncontrollobaly 😄
Isn’t one of the leading theories about Atlantis (at least, Plato’s version) that it was about the Bronze Age Minoans (who may have been advanced for the time period) being destroyed and subsequently taken over by the Mycenaeans (the proto-Greeks)? It could have been a real event that was incredibly ancient to Plato and turned into a Greek myth over time.
Yes! It is very likely that the Atlantis myth started with the Minoans and the erruption of Santorini. The Minoans were very advanced for the time period and pretty much dominated the area. The story of the Minotaur is all about a Greek conquering a Minoan monster. Historically, we know the Minoans never truly recovered from the massive eruption of Santorini that wiped out many of their many cities and ports. They pretty much did sink in a single day. Plato turned it into a political lecture.
@@tinapan88 And the fact that an ancient palace (or temple complex there is some debate) ruin was found (thought to be the labyrinth origin, as it had so many rooms, and the throne of the "bull" of the Minoans. Also referred to as the First Throne of Europe.)
@@generalgrievous2202 The punishment that Atlantis went through was most likely based on what had happened to the Minoans. But after that it is pretty much just fiction.
About the whole atlantia thing. Probably based on the minoan eruption, and Platos thing puts the island on the, you guessed it, Atlantic, not the black sea.
Atlantis just being a city that got flooded isn’t too crazy of a theory (especially compared to the other clickbait stuff out there). There’s also a theory that Atlantis was just a metaphor used by ancient Greeks to describe a utopian society iirc
@@liftingvids6780 The thing is, the definition and name of Atlantis is something wirtten by Plato, with specific locations and specific definitions. And guess what, according to him, a) its actually a metaphor, b) Its in the Atlantic ocean , right west of greece. So yeah, it technically isnt Atlantis, still cool though.
@@liftingvids6780 The only thing it has in common with the Plato story is that its kinda looks like its descriptipn. The eye is actually a corroded dome, not a man made strucuture.
Im so glad I found you channel, When I was like 15-17 I used to watch the shit outta thoes channels (Factsverse, The richest, chills, ect) and fall for most of it, I now however can see how ridiculous they are. So thx
The reason why the city of Atlantis is popular is because it was a historical story of a highly technologically advanced city which is not well documented in historical records. It was described as being the home to the descendants of Poseidon, but in reality it would likely have been a powerful Greek city with technology which cities such as Athens lacked. The idea that Atlantis existed is not too far fetched, but unless they can find the specific location of the sunken city, than I would probably say that it is similar to el dorado, just a myth of a powerful civilization hidden from the world, lost to time
It's not well documented in historical records because it Plato literally made it up in supplementary work for his Politeia as a villain to be beaten up by the perfect society he thought up in Politeia. If there's a historical precedent, it's the peloponesian war which in Platos opinion was caused because Athens was too expansionist and because of its hubris it deserved to lose (like Atlantis) and maybe the persian wars (expansionist empire that's superior in numbers and technology and has a high king with several sub-kings that loses to heroic greeks)
Yeah, tons of sea monsters have moved into the Black Sea, the rent is cheaper than the Trench, because overcrowding has gone absolutely insane, though there is the occasional issue with Russian ships getting sunk by passing dolphins and disturbing the peace.
as for the whirhpools there are earthquakes in Turkey and Bulgaria...and Greece and thereabouts so it could be due to that. From time to time there was an earthquake and the tremors, depending on magnitude affected the sea
Just to correct you, the black sea isn't ACTUALLY landlocked, but rather loosely connected to the Mediterranean sea by the Bosporus, dividing Anatolia and the Eastern Baltics by just a thousand meters.
If I remember correctly, Atlantis was a thought experiment about the creator's "perfect society" or something. It may have been a cautionary example of what the creator thought would lead to the destruction of Greek society, regardless, it was literally just made up
To the ancient Greeks, the northern coast of the Black Sea was an exotic place, so I guess you could say it’s mysterious in that sense. Gryphons were supposed to live there
One thing I'll say is that the thing about the biblical flood isn't literally "a flood that covered the world in an attempt to wipe out all evil", it's "a massive flood in the region which was passed down in oral storytelling until it inspired the story that is told in the Bible", which is an interesting hypothesis
I feel like the kraken was a normal squid, and they just had to make it exciting. Also, I feel like the guy in this video doesn't understand what makes ancient myths interesting. The story of Atlantis is fantastical and fascinating because it talks about demigods with incredible magic, not because a city got flooded really bad. The story of Noah's flood is entertaining because it talks about a flood that covered the whole world, with the water level rising above the highest mountain, and a man gathering two of every species in the entire world onto that boat, not because some city got flooded really bad and one guy had a boat. Of course, in both of these stories the fantastical element is why you'll never find evidence that they happened, because they can't happen, but if you take out the magic you kind of defeat the purpose of the stories.
I mean, colossal and giant squids do exist, they probably just blew it out of proportion (which is the source of a lot of myths if not through misunderstandings and broken-telephone scenarios)
Studying ancient history here, the proposed place of Atlantis is modern day Santorini, or Thera. There was a massive eruption from 1550-1650CE, the date depends on what method of dating you use, where there was around 50m of volcanic ash on the island and it preserved the civilisation that lived there. The Therans were written about in Egypt, and would have likely traded with Crete and the rest of the Aegean Islands. They had 2-3 story houses, indoor plumbing and even preserved food 150 years (I could be a little off on that, I’m writing from memory) before the Roman Empire. Most of the frescoes in the preserved buildings have been interpreted as they were a very peaceful society and definitely had been to Egypt as they had frescoes of papyrus, which only grew along the Nile at the time. The centre of the island has sunk into the sea, hence the writings of it having sunk, its a caldera and every time it erupts, it builds another volcano on itself. There’s POSSIBLE evidence from around the same time period to theorise that the eruption of Thera was a lot larger than expected, using Dendrochronology (tree rings that show the age and if these been any major shifts) they found narrower rings in Ireland and even California from this time period, however there isn’t anything that’s really saying that it’s most definitely from the eruption. As for the people, there were no bodies found, even in Pompeii, the bodies were preserved under the volcanic ash. So many historians believe that the Therans escaped to Egypt or somewhere similar, as they had a long time to know how to read the signs. They had, essentially stockyards of volcanic ash from smaller eruptions and they’d use it for a myriad of things.
check out the eye of the Sahara desert as a RUclipsr claims that maybe Atlantis was located in it and I don't really in the sci-fi level tech that often appears in these stories.
I feel like the closer you live to the Black Sea, probably the fewer mysteries there are. I know it exists, and could name a few countries that have coastline on it maybe, but anything else would technically be a mystery
Just saying my knowledge: Plato went to Egypt where he heard the stories of an ancient civilization which was destroyed by a tsunami. That civilization were the Minoans, Plato changed that to a civilization that descended from Atlas son of Poseidon and thas called it ΑΤΛΑΝΤΙΔΑ (ATLANTIS)
@Гугутка 51 weather is pretty bad right now, it's raining and sometimes even snowing, I don't know that much about Bulgaria but i know that you guys have amazing folklore and i also know Hristo Stoichkov, football (soccer) legend who played for Barcelona.
There's a fairly famous whirlpool off the coast of Scotland called the Corryvrecken. It's pretty cool. Other whirlpools are available but my name is Corrie so I like that one. There a load of photos of them online, but I guess they weren't large enough or scary enough for the video's purposes 🙄
The Black Sea isn’t landlocked in the sense of the Caspian, to be clear, it’s surrounded mostly by land, but is connected to the Mediterranean by the straits of Marmara
the black sea is often mentioned in conspiracy theories featuring the annunaki and ancient Israel (and those are the real crazy ones with all of humanity is dead and we're all living in an alternate timeline type shit) because of its location
Plato wrote allegories, the point of his Atlantis story was to explain why Athens was a "superior civilization". So he made up a fiction civilization that was a antithesis of Athens and had it wiped out by the gods. "But he said he got the story from his great grandfather who got it from Egypt", no he was setting the scene that his story took place a long time ago. Just because there are examples of local floods or volcanos taking out island civilizations (like the Thera eruption) which Plato may have known about (it's not that uncommon) doesn't mean he based his story on a specific real event. Do people believe his cave allegory was based on real people in a cave? Do people think a ring that turned people invisible are real? Do people think he was being literal when he said the soul was a chariot drawn by 2 horses? If Atlantis was a real place that fought with Athens and Egypt knew about there would be a lot more accounts then one of Platos minor allegories, that was supposedly only passed down 6 generations of his family after being told by some priest.
I'm Bulgarian and I have an actual interesting story about the Black sea. The Black sea was once a river and then the Mediterranean sea was connected to the river and after some time they separated. There was a mix of fresh and salt water so that's why the sea isn't that salty. That's a true story btw.
Atlantis was made up as a political argument and it illustrated the ideas of the philosopher what is the correct behavior and why. He then presented it as 'found footage' but it's as based on real events as much as the Silmarillion. Yes, the Black sea existed at the time period when Plato lived. Idk why something that is so straightforwardly a story is to this day taken literally but here we are.
I find it strange that in the US, people believe all this stuff about mermaids and futuristic technology being in Atlantis and that it is in the Atlantic ocean.. but in Europe it is common belief that it was just a Greek island that sunk & it's not really that special, just interesting.
Black Sea definitely did exist, it's like 5 times the size of Lake Superior and has oceanic crust from the Proto-Tethys at the bottom of it. It's existed since the closure of the Tethys at least.
Actually I believe that Atlantis was based on the volcanic eruption on the island of Crete. Edit: The myth may also be based on Santorini. From what I found, it is debated what the myth is actually based on. But these are the two main places that could be the inspiration for Atlantis
Platos was the fhirst to tell the story of atlanthis ( gott written down by his student ) about atlantis but in the text he claims to have translatet it from an agyptian story but platos is known to just make things up to proof a point or to test if the listeners still pay attention
There are tunnels there that they aren't 100% sure who built them, but they're hardly alien. Mostly people used them for trade before and during WW1. It's just a plain tunnel.
The Black see breach happened they now this from the sediment layers, and the change in the snail species from fresh water to salt water. There would have been people in the area when the breech happened so it could have been one of the inspirations for flood myths ect.
In 1975, the third fight of Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier nicknamed as the thrilla in Manilla, in the second half of the fight Ali punched Frazier with an hook that sent his mouthpiece flying, the commentators mistakenly said it was Ali's mouthpiece and even Joe Frazier later bragged in his autobiography about taking Ali mouthpiece of his mouth, to this day a lot of people still believe in the myth despite having evidence in camera, what are the hope with tales written plus 200 years ago?
Yeah, as you point out, a lot of these things are people trying to look cool and badass or just all that time at sea getting to people and causing them to see/imagine things (as with mermaids). Being on a ship with no land in sight for days on end can really mess with ya. Also just plain not understanding what they're seeing (especially in ancient times)
I like how they ended the video on the great flood in the Bible took place in the Black Sea. when the flood in the Bible took place all over the Earth..
Tl;dr Atlantis and the Atlantic Ocean were both named after the Greek god Atlas, who was a marine creature and the son of an Oceanid (a water nymph). Also Atlantis is, in fact, in the Atlantic Ocean (if it is even real) So, the earliest mention of the Atlantic Ocean was around 450 B.C., where it was named after the Greek god Atlas, who Zues punished by tasking him with holding up the pillars that seperated the heavens from the earth. Atlas is described as having been a marine deity and is the son of an Oceanid, either Clymene or Asia, as well as the Titan Iapetus. Oceanids are water nymphs descended from the Titans Oceanus and Tethys, who were both gods that presided over the earth's fresh water bodies, and there was said to be 3,000 Oceanids. Iapetus, on the other hand, is said to be the progenitor of mankind, as all of his children (Atlas, Prometheus, Epimetheus, and Menoetius) are the ancestors of mankind. Atlantis was also named after Atlas around 360 B.C., when Plato first wrote about the city. The stories Plato told say the city was located west of the Pillars of Hercules, which are located near the Strait of Gibraltar. This strait connects the Atlantic Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea. So, while Atlantis isn't named after the Atlantic Ocean itself, they share the same namesake and it is located in (or near) the Atlantic.
Bit of a nitpick here but atlas isn’t a god he’s a titan and he wasn’t tasked to hold up sky like you said it’s more that Zeus forced him to after the gods defeated the titans
I agree, he was forced rather than tasked. I wrote this at 3 in the morning on a whim lol As far as classifications, they all are considered Gods. You had Primordials, then the Titans, and then the Olympians. The terms are more or less a generational denotation, rather than clarifying whether they were or weren't a God. You can look up several Titans and they'll say God of Time (Kronos) or God of Fire (Prometheus), rather than Titan of _______ To give a more literary definition of God: a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.. The Titans and Primordials both fit this description, as do the Olympians. Thus, they are all Gods
@@leafyyy7365 that’s fair they are all gods is just it’s kinda odd cause there also called by other things with just kinda makes this thing a giant mess of what you should call them I generally just don’t like calling them gods unless they are only referred to as god, also sorry if this just sounds bad I’m writing this at like 11 at night so it’s probably written poorly
@@owenqueen1019 It's fine lol. I think there's an association with the word God and the Olympians specifically, because a) the Olympians get discussed much more often, and b) God is a much shorter, and easier to spell, word than Olympian for a lot of people. When people bring up the Titans, they just say Titan because it's a simpler word, like God, so a lot of people assume that Titans and Gods are different because the words are being used in seperate contexts. Or something like that
The actual story of Atlantis is just that it was a powerful city state that was wiped out by a flood. The weird conspiracy people are the ones who said they were like mer-aliens with lasers and stuff
the atlantis story is just something plato (a athenian) made up to make athens seem cool and powerful and iirc atlantis was supposed to be as big as nowaday texas and in the middle of the atlanic
The whole "fish people" and "futuristic tech" stuff associated with Atlantis is largely a modern invention. The ancient Greek authors described Atlantis as a maybe-Greek, maybe non-Greek civilization with better-than-average (bronze age) technology, but not much beyond that. As for the flooding itself, the city is not, to my knowledge, described as living on through the floods; rather, the flooding is said to have destroyed the city. So it's basically saying that an entire city-state at one point got the gods mad at them and were destroyed by water. I class it with the other flood legends that every culture seems to have.
What is more interesting IS why so many civilizations had such stories
in and is can have very different effects on a sentence
@Glauber Glousger What's even more interesting is that the names of many of the main characters are similar. Of course the Bible's "Noah", but you also have the Chinese "Nu-Wah" (I don't know the Hanzi for it) and the Hawaiian Nu'u are examples. Bizarre.
@@glauberglousger6643 water's spooky
@@thekingsbard6132 From what I've heard, at least some of the pacific island stories are due to early missionaries trying to spread biblical stories to the islanders, but after they left and many decades went by, most of the Christian mythology was forgotten, but the story of Noah got partially remembered because a flood story resonated with people living on an island surrounded by sea. It's also worth noting the story of Noah itself is very similar to the older Babylonian story of Utnapishtim, and many believe the Hebrews came up with Noah after encountering said story during the Babylonian captivity. Basically, we have so many flood stories because people have been copying and rebooting stories for millenia.
@@blondbraid7986 So basically Christianity is the same as a meme inspired by a lot of other memes.
3:54 No, this is totally true! I too was sailing on the Black Sea, doing some fishing, when all of a sudden I pulled a pale, humanoid *creature* from the depths. It screeched in a horrible gibberish: "сука блять!" I quickly threw it back. Damn Russian snorkelers smh
yese
It’s even worse when your fishing and catch a Russian attack sub. Damn Kursk.
Holy shit you found the crew of the Moskva.
Always remember that the story of Atlantis was written by Plato. Plato wrote entirely fictional allegories. Believing in Atlantis is the same as believing Plato had a magical ring that could turn him invisible.
Yep
Imagine 2000 years in the future people are searching Hogwarts
Or believing the box of Pandora 🥴
Conspiracy theorists speculate that the Bloop (which is a noise, btw) was Cthulhu, which was invented by HP Lovecraft.
It is a well known historical fact that Plato did in fact possess the One Ring
I don’t think fishermen tend to lie, but rather that getting good/accurate accounts of fish can be sketchy. The first one is described as having a crescent fin similar to that of a shark, the only weird thing was the explanation that it had weird proportions which is easily explained by refraction of the waters surface changing due to the shape of waves. Fishermen often see these creatures through the water and often close to night when it is both very dim and through the surface of the water, both making it difficult to give an accurate description of their encounters. I think that this happens a lot, and it is much like how when it is dark and you are tired, you may see a shadow and think it is a man when it’s just a coat hanging on a chair. They saw a fish and couldn’t tell what it was so they did their best to describe it
To be fair, the first 'account' is from Herodotus. This is the same Greek historian that wrote in his book, The Histories, that 'there are giant ants that dig for gold and chase merchants in India' and that modern historians say you have to divide any number he wrote down by 10 in order to close an approximation of what might have maybe possibly been kinda accurate, so it was probably just a piece of driftwood with some barnacles on it and he went fuckin nuts with it.
Yeah, and fishermen aren't artists. Hard to give a visual representation if you can't draw it, and hard to explain it to an artist if you lack the words to convey what you saw.
@@shrekthenoob too be fair he practically just walked around and asked random villagers where he was, who they were and things of note that happend there/nearby.
A lot of folk lore or local legends would naturally be mixed in
Nice to see this stuff finally on my algorithm, I intend to be a marine biologist.
omg yess
Yesss, AVNJ inspires me to be a marine biologist
@CakeSniffer96 no.
Yesss!! Soon I will accomplished my dreams of finding Crabzilla and the Megalodon!!
I hope u become a marine biologist I hope ur career goes well broski
"Also, there's _clearly_ good land right there. What are you doing?"
90% of fictional civilizations: *[nervous laughter]*
It does seem most fictional civilizations are on the coast, but it’s for a good reason
(Usually, other than for the plot)
The tunnels are a real thing, and for some time, before the wars and all were used by farmers to move livestock for sale in Turkey and it like...makes sense? People found tunnels that lead underneath the sea and are straight route to another country and it is easier and cheaper to move animals like cows or sheep by walking them rather than having to put them on a boat. Now those farmers didn't built those tunnels, they existed before and it is true that researchers don't exactly know who and why built those tunnels.
I built them
Crabzilla built them😳
I’d guess older humans wanted to move livestock around and it was easier and were later rediscovered
@@ijustlikebees no the megalodon built them get it right smh
@@g0atman88 it was a group project between crabzilla, the megalodon, and Bigfoot to celebrate their polygamous marriage.
10:25
No, the whole point of Atlantis is a big powerful maritime kingdom built forming concentric rings in the water sinking.
The mermaids, underwater civilizations and futuristic technology are just pop culture additions.
Cute pfp I must know its origins
@@shatteredsentient5321 no
@@shatteredsentient5321 it's a fakemon I made for a contest, taking inspiration from one of drawfree's drawing's face.
Atlantis was literally just an allegory about decadence and why Athens is so cool. It was political propaganda, nothing more. (I should note that it is possible that Atlantis was based off an actual city near Crete which was destroyed by a volcano)
What about the "Eye of the Sahara"?
@@trashyhobo4957 what about it?
No seriously idk what that is lmao
It’s also likely they were talking about Tartessos
@@thecatinthefedora1201 just look up the channel named Bright Insight. He's got a lot of videos on Atlantis and Lost Civilizations
@@trashyhobo4957 that's a rock formation in the middle of the Mauritania. It's nowhere near the ocean.
The black sea is not landlocked lol, that's the reason istanbul was the capital of many empires over history, it sits at the gate of the black sea meaning that is the only place people can travel threw withought landing
The Atlantis story wasn't even written as supposed true story. It was meant to be a parable.
Yeah don’t remember exactly who wrote it (because philosophy is painful for me) it’s just the idea of Atlantis was just so cool people refused to believe it was fake. (To be fair mr author man my brain refuses to remember, DID go all out on his world building for it.)
@@Lh0000 his name was Plato and yes he was a pretty creative guy
Zak: did the black sea even exist at the time when atlantis was written about?
Me: i'm sorry what? It's a sea that covers 400000 (approx) km².. this waterbody turned from a freshwater lake to a saltwater sea about 7000 years ago while atlantis was written about 2300 years ago
"Suspiciously Australian-shaped" is my favorite thing in this video lol
Acxually that Tunnel system is very mysterious since it had existed for a while and was used to transport animals since it was cheaper than doing it via boat. No one knows who made those so i give the dude that one.
Don't. Tunnels don't necessarily need to have been made by a single occupant. Since they have been used for a long time it absolutely makes sense that something that already existed was improved. Claiming that it needed deep knowledge of engineering misses the point that there were a lot of people who knew a lot about it.
@@eneyavorodecky ok let me rephrase what they said without changing what they said. We don't know what people group made them. There, literally the exact same thing
11:45 legends mostly speak about atlantis being a city with multiple rings, build that way because of some natural phenomenon. An example of a similar shape is the eye of the sahara (21.114768, -11.381917)
The biggest advantage of building everything on the rings, is that water can transport things way easier then land, and it's more defendable to boot. Especially with ancient technology, settling near a lot of water is about the smartest thing to do. Even today most cargo is moved over large distances by boat.
The biggest problem with the eye is that I’m not sure if anyone knew about it back then, and passed it on,
Also, the only natural phenomenon that could cause concentric rings are asteroids and calderas,
Or erosion, but that’s unlikely to happen
@@glauberglousger6643 it's literally a crater filled in with cooled lava. It takes 3 second to look up.
Sailors 100% make up those stories about giant sea monsters, besides they were most likely drunk as shit.
That story about the humanoids at 4:00 sounded less like mermaids and more like H.P. Lovecraft's accounts of fish people in the book "The Shadow over Innsmouth", in my opinion
"3:38" To be fair, throughout history, in many cultures - the sudden appearance of a white man was in fact fear inspiring.
Some of the crazy, outlandish sea monster stories come from sailors being drunk (occasionally high) and/or extremely sleep deprived. I personally believe it's also possible that they were cautionary tales told by captains to make sure their crew would do their jobs properly. Get them to fear that if they don't keep the ship running right, a sea monster could catch up.
I'm fairly sure that the Black sea existed when Atlantis sunk. But the legend was probably made when a part of the island of Thera ( modern day Santorini ) sunk due to a volcanic eruption. I don't know where they got the impression that Atlantis was in the Black sea.
Somebody was making stuff up, plain and simple
Atlantis is probably a purposefully fictional story Plato made and yes the black sea was around in the ancient Greek days. The black sea is distinctly not landlocked as there is a straight of Gibraltar like area between Thrace and northwest Anatolia.
@@Don_Kedic Again, Atlantis was real, but it was in the Mediterranean, and Plato deliberately got a lot of the details wrong.
@@Don_Kedic that's what I'm saying! Greek mythology is full of cool fictional stories. All take inspiration from rl events but always mythical (look at the Trojan invasion), so why Atlantis is 100% exactly like Plato described.
I am Turkish and this is the first time i hear about these Black Sea “creatures”. By the way I really love all your videos, thank you for making me laugh uncontrollobaly 😄
Isn’t one of the leading theories about Atlantis (at least, Plato’s version) that it was about the Bronze Age Minoans (who may have been advanced for the time period) being destroyed and subsequently taken over by the Mycenaeans (the proto-Greeks)? It could have been a real event that was incredibly ancient to Plato and turned into a Greek myth over time.
Yes! It is very likely that the Atlantis myth started with the Minoans and the erruption of Santorini. The Minoans were very advanced for the time period and pretty much dominated the area. The story of the Minotaur is all about a Greek conquering a Minoan monster. Historically, we know the Minoans never truly recovered from the massive eruption of Santorini that wiped out many of their many cities and ports. They pretty much did sink in a single day. Plato turned it into a political lecture.
@@tinapan88 And the fact that an ancient palace (or temple complex there is some debate) ruin was found (thought to be the labyrinth origin, as it had so many rooms, and the throne of the "bull" of the Minoans. Also referred to as the First Throne of Europe.)
Plato made it up as an allegory for why Athens is cool. Its probably based on a real event, but just about every detail is made up by plato.
@@generalgrievous2202 The punishment that Atlantis went through was most likely based on what had happened to the Minoans. But after that it is pretty much just fiction.
It is easier to defend the city when their is choke points, that’s how the Spartans survived Thermopylae for so long.
About the whole atlantia thing. Probably based on the minoan eruption, and Platos thing puts the island on the, you guessed it, Atlantic, not the black sea.
Atlantis just being a city that got flooded isn’t too crazy of a theory (especially compared to the other clickbait stuff out there). There’s also a theory that Atlantis was just a metaphor used by ancient Greeks to describe a utopian society iirc
@@liftingvids6780 Not every sunken thing is Atlantis.
The whole Atlantis was a metaphor is probably just spot on. Over Sarcastic Productions made a entire video on Atlantis from the mythological side.
@@liftingvids6780 The thing is, the definition and name of Atlantis is something wirtten by Plato, with specific locations and specific definitions. And guess what, according to him, a) its actually a metaphor, b) Its in the Atlantic ocean , right west of greece. So yeah, it technically isnt Atlantis, still cool though.
@@liftingvids6780 YEAH, BUT THAT DOSENT MEAN ITS ATLANTIS.
@@liftingvids6780 The only thing it has in common with the Plato story is that its kinda looks like its descriptipn. The eye is actually a corroded dome, not a man made strucuture.
Hitchen’s Razor: "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”-that’s always how I treat unfounded claims.
5:03 "This cave is not a natural formation."
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@@Furhling Thats it Christ Im getting the crown of thrones
as a Bulgarian every time i go to the sea i get attacked by the black sea monster
As a Greek I visit Atlantis every 3 weeks
The reason why the city of Atlantis is popular is because it was a historical story of a highly technologically advanced city which is not well documented in historical records. It was described as being the home to the descendants of Poseidon, but in reality it would likely have been a powerful Greek city with technology which cities such as Athens lacked. The idea that Atlantis existed is not too far fetched, but unless they can find the specific location of the sunken city, than I would probably say that it is similar to el dorado, just a myth of a powerful civilization hidden from the world, lost to time
It's not well documented in historical records because it Plato literally made it up in supplementary work for his Politeia as a villain to be beaten up by the perfect society he thought up in Politeia. If there's a historical precedent, it's the peloponesian war which in Platos opinion was caused because Athens was too expansionist and because of its hubris it deserved to lose (like Atlantis) and maybe the persian wars (expansionist empire that's superior in numbers and technology and has a high king with several sub-kings that loses to heroic greeks)
Also, Atlantis was a device used by Plato to forge a cautionary tale about the dangers of greed and arrogance, if I recall
Yeah, tons of sea monsters have moved into the Black Sea, the rent is cheaper than the Trench, because overcrowding has gone absolutely insane, though there is the occasional issue with Russian ships getting sunk by passing dolphins and disturbing the peace.
The black sea isn't completely Landlocked it actually connected with Aegean sea by bosfora
Isn't the Sea of Azov part of the Black Sea ?
@@pattedechat2457 I meant that it's conected with the ocean by Aegean sea
as for the whirhpools there are earthquakes in Turkey and Bulgaria...and Greece and thereabouts so it could be due to that. From time to time there was an earthquake and the tremors, depending on magnitude affected the sea
@Гугутка 51 who?
@Гугутка 51 I don't know where or how you got that idea, because I'm sure people know about Bulgaria and it's history.
Just to correct you, the black sea isn't ACTUALLY landlocked, but rather loosely connected to the Mediterranean sea by the Bosporus, dividing Anatolia and the Eastern Baltics by just a thousand meters.
As a Floridian I can confirm that was indeed a hurricane... also I think by whirlpool of death they mean Maelstrom. >_>
Both Atlantis and the Atlantic ocean were named after the titan, Atlas
Also, the Black Sea is part of the Atlantic Ocean, so in this particular way it's not nonsensical for Atlantis to be pressumed being located there.
Zach: 'if you built this city...'
Me, immediately: '...ON ROCK'N'ROLL!'
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If I remember correctly, Atlantis was a thought experiment about the creator's "perfect society" or something. It may have been a cautionary example of what the creator thought would lead to the destruction of Greek society, regardless, it was literally just made up
plato actually said different stuff about atlantis and he always used myths to make concepts easier so he prolly didnt even believe atlantis was real
To the ancient Greeks, the northern coast of the Black Sea was an exotic place, so I guess you could say it’s mysterious in that sense. Gryphons were supposed to live there
That point made against the Atlanic about wrighting something about it and that its 'fact' should be shown to every christian on this planet
0:46 holy hell it does look like Australlia
One thing I'll say is that the thing about the biblical flood isn't literally "a flood that covered the world in an attempt to wipe out all evil", it's "a massive flood in the region which was passed down in oral storytelling until it inspired the story that is told in the Bible", which is an interesting hypothesis
I feel like the kraken was a normal squid, and they just had to make it exciting.
Also, I feel like the guy in this video doesn't understand what makes ancient myths interesting. The story of Atlantis is fantastical and fascinating because it talks about demigods with incredible magic, not because a city got flooded really bad. The story of Noah's flood is entertaining because it talks about a flood that covered the whole world, with the water level rising above the highest mountain, and a man gathering two of every species in the entire world onto that boat, not because some city got flooded really bad and one guy had a boat. Of course, in both of these stories the fantastical element is why you'll never find evidence that they happened, because they can't happen, but if you take out the magic you kind of defeat the purpose of the stories.
I mean, colossal and giant squids do exist, they probably just blew it out of proportion (which is the source of a lot of myths if not through misunderstandings and broken-telephone scenarios)
Studying ancient history here, the proposed place of Atlantis is modern day Santorini, or Thera. There was a massive eruption from 1550-1650CE, the date depends on what method of dating you use, where there was around 50m of volcanic ash on the island and it preserved the civilisation that lived there. The Therans were written about in Egypt, and would have likely traded with Crete and the rest of the Aegean Islands. They had 2-3 story houses, indoor plumbing and even preserved food 150 years (I could be a little off on that, I’m writing from memory) before the Roman Empire. Most of the frescoes in the preserved buildings have been interpreted as they were a very peaceful society and definitely had been to Egypt as they had frescoes of papyrus, which only grew along the Nile at the time. The centre of the island has sunk into the sea, hence the writings of it having sunk, its a caldera and every time it erupts, it builds another volcano on itself. There’s POSSIBLE evidence from around the same time period to theorise that the eruption of Thera was a lot larger than expected, using Dendrochronology (tree rings that show the age and if these been any major shifts) they found narrower rings in Ireland and even California from this time period, however there isn’t anything that’s really saying that it’s most definitely from the eruption.
As for the people, there were no bodies found, even in Pompeii, the bodies were preserved under the volcanic ash. So many historians believe that the Therans escaped to Egypt or somewhere similar, as they had a long time to know how to read the signs. They had, essentially stockyards of volcanic ash from smaller eruptions and they’d use it for a myriad of things.
"Suspiciously Australia shaped" 🤣
We already found Atlantis. They did have crazy magic science and rode flying fish. It's just too bad my boy Milo Thatch got silenced by the government
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check out the eye of the Sahara desert as a RUclipsr claims that maybe Atlantis was located in it and I don't really in the sci-fi level tech that often appears in these stories.
That thumbnail is what we've all been waiting for, crabzillodon
Three headed dragon vs eletric gun in atlantis time again
I feel like the closer you live to the Black Sea, probably the fewer mysteries there are. I know it exists, and could name a few countries that have coastline on it maybe, but anything else would technically be a mystery
Just saying my knowledge: Plato went to Egypt where he heard the stories of an ancient civilization which was destroyed by a tsunami. That civilization were the Minoans, Plato changed that to a civilization that descended from Atlas son of Poseidon and thas called it ΑΤΛΑΝΤΙΔΑ (ATLANTIS)
Yo this man deserves to much love he is funny and it is like your in a class much love and respect
Just a question, can the Black sea really be called landlocked since it's connected to the Mediterranean and, thus, the Atlantic Ocean?
no, people over here dont call it that, a sea is a sea because it has a connection to the ocean, otherwise its a lake
@@mrAMMW So it's a really big lake?
@@linhero797 no its a sea, the caspian sea is a lake for example
@@mrAMMW One or more connections,
Ps: Great Lakes
@@mrAMMW tell that to the Caspian and Saltón seas
i live 200 meters away from the black sea (Georgia) and i can confirm all of this.
@Гугутка 51 weather is pretty bad right now, it's raining and sometimes even snowing, I don't know that much about Bulgaria but i know that you guys have amazing folklore and i also know Hristo Stoichkov, football (soccer) legend who played for Barcelona.
That's a really good book, BTW. The buildings they found are more like 10,000 years old, nothing like Atlantis is described
There's a fairly famous whirlpool off the coast of Scotland called the Corryvrecken. It's pretty cool. Other whirlpools are available but my name is Corrie so I like that one. There a load of photos of them online, but I guess they weren't large enough or scary enough for the video's purposes 🙄
You know a person's story is bullshit when it include the concept that submarines have windows.
The Black Sea isn’t landlocked in the sense of the Caspian, to be clear, it’s surrounded mostly by land, but is connected to the Mediterranean by the straits of Marmara
Imagine some person making a video about them having spotted a reaper leviathan in the pacific ocean
You should make a satire video like the bad meg videos but with sea horses, like “seahorses caught on camera” or “how seahorses still exist”
Holy fuck who built this road
The black sea is connected to the mediterranean sea. Great video btw :D.
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"What could have happened to this suspiciously Australlia shaped sea?
. . .
Oh, my god, that's where Australia came from!
the black sea is often mentioned in conspiracy theories featuring the annunaki and ancient Israel (and those are the real crazy ones with all of humanity is dead and we're all living in an alternate timeline type shit) because of its location
Plato wrote allegories, the point of his Atlantis story was to explain why Athens was a "superior civilization". So he made up a fiction civilization that was a antithesis of Athens and had it wiped out by the gods. "But he said he got the story from his great grandfather who got it from Egypt", no he was setting the scene that his story took place a long time ago. Just because there are examples of local floods or volcanos taking out island civilizations (like the Thera eruption) which Plato may have known about (it's not that uncommon) doesn't mean he based his story on a specific real event.
Do people believe his cave allegory was based on real people in a cave? Do people think a ring that turned people invisible are real? Do people think he was being literal when he said the soul was a chariot drawn by 2 horses?
If Atlantis was a real place that fought with Athens and Egypt knew about there would be a lot more accounts then one of Platos minor allegories, that was supposedly only passed down 6 generations of his family after being told by some priest.
4:01 “and strange bodies ending in fish tails” as he shows footage of the tail of a whale, not a fish
8:20 is literally the Caryatids of the Acropolis in Athens Greece lol
when is the next ichthyology lesson? and love ur vids
The Black Sea is not completely land locked. Just so you guys know. It has a canal to the Mediterranean Sea.
I'm Bulgarian and I have an actual interesting story about the Black sea. The Black sea was once a river and then the Mediterranean sea was connected to the river and after some time they separated. There was a mix of fresh and salt water so that's why the sea isn't that salty. That's a true story btw.
Atlantis was made up as a political argument and it illustrated the ideas of the philosopher what is the correct behavior and why. He then presented it as 'found footage' but it's as based on real events as much as the Silmarillion. Yes, the Black sea existed at the time period when Plato lived. Idk why something that is so straightforwardly a story is to this day taken literally but here we are.
"Suspiciously Australian shaped sea"
of course it starts with Herodotus, the dude is known as "The Father of Lies". Also "The Father of History"
I find it strange that in the US, people believe all this stuff about mermaids and futuristic technology being in Atlantis and that it is in the Atlantic ocean.. but in Europe it is common belief that it was just a Greek island that sunk & it's not really that special, just interesting.
"suspiciously Australia-shaped" 😂
Black Sea definitely did exist, it's like 5 times the size of Lake Superior and has oceanic crust from the Proto-Tethys at the bottom of it. It's existed since the closure of the Tethys at least.
I love how these content makers put 3-5 diffirent creatures while talking about the monster but don't show the actual monster
_'Brackish',_ is the word that describes the Black Sea's water, I'd suggest.
Actually I believe that Atlantis was based on the volcanic eruption on the island of Crete.
Edit: The myth may also be based on Santorini. From what I found, it is debated what the myth is actually based on. But these are the two main places that could be the inspiration for Atlantis
Platos was the fhirst to tell the story of atlanthis ( gott written down by his student ) about atlantis but in the text he claims to have translatet it from an agyptian story but platos is known to just make things up to proof a point or to test if the listeners still pay attention
5:47 are you telling me there are roads other than the ones I've drove on
When he said the origin of Atlantis I gave up holding my laughter
There are tunnels there that they aren't 100% sure who built them, but they're hardly alien. Mostly people used them for trade before and during WW1. It's just a plain tunnel.
The Black see breach happened they now this from the sediment layers, and the change in the snail species from fresh water to salt water. There would have been people in the area when the breech happened so it could have been one of the inspirations for flood myths ect.
Next time I get lost I'm just gonna say "where am I? These streets couldn't have been produced by nature!"
Follow your dreams man! Keep the grind going, appreciate ya! 🐟🦈💙
I bet the Megladon features in this video
In 1975, the third fight of Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier nicknamed as the thrilla in Manilla, in the second half of the fight Ali punched Frazier with an hook that sent his mouthpiece flying, the commentators mistakenly said it was Ali's mouthpiece and even Joe Frazier later bragged in his autobiography about taking Ali mouthpiece of his mouth, to this day a lot of people still believe in the myth despite having evidence in camera, what are the hope with tales written plus 200 years ago?
Yeah, as you point out, a lot of these things are people trying to look cool and badass or just all that time at sea getting to people and causing them to see/imagine things (as with mermaids). Being on a ship with no land in sight for days on end can really mess with ya.
Also just plain not understanding what they're seeing (especially in ancient times)
I like how they ended the video on the great flood in the Bible took place in the Black Sea. when the flood in the Bible took place all over the Earth..
I’m pretty sure Plato said Atlantis was beyond the Pillars of Hercules (strait of Gibraltar), so in the Atlantic
5:29 it was me. I was building a stone wall and need cobble.
Tl;dr Atlantis and the Atlantic Ocean were both named after the Greek god Atlas, who was a marine creature and the son of an Oceanid (a water nymph). Also Atlantis is, in fact, in the Atlantic Ocean (if it is even real)
So, the earliest mention of the Atlantic Ocean was around 450 B.C., where it was named after the Greek god Atlas, who Zues punished by tasking him with holding up the pillars that seperated the heavens from the earth. Atlas is described as having been a marine deity and is the son of an Oceanid, either Clymene or Asia, as well as the Titan Iapetus. Oceanids are water nymphs descended from the Titans Oceanus and Tethys, who were both gods that presided over the earth's fresh water bodies, and there was said to be 3,000 Oceanids. Iapetus, on the other hand, is said to be the progenitor of mankind, as all of his children (Atlas, Prometheus, Epimetheus, and Menoetius) are the ancestors of mankind.
Atlantis was also named after Atlas around 360 B.C., when Plato first wrote about the city. The stories Plato told say the city was located west of the Pillars of Hercules, which are located near the Strait of Gibraltar. This strait connects the Atlantic Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea.
So, while Atlantis isn't named after the Atlantic Ocean itself, they share the same namesake and it is located in (or near) the Atlantic.
Bit of a nitpick here but atlas isn’t a god he’s a titan and he wasn’t tasked to hold up sky like you said it’s more that Zeus forced him to after the gods defeated the titans
I agree, he was forced rather than tasked. I wrote this at 3 in the morning on a whim lol
As far as classifications, they all are considered Gods. You had Primordials, then the Titans, and then the Olympians. The terms are more or less a generational denotation, rather than clarifying whether they were or weren't a God. You can look up several Titans and they'll say God of Time (Kronos) or God of Fire (Prometheus), rather than Titan of _______
To give a more literary definition of God: a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.. The Titans and Primordials both fit this description, as do the Olympians. Thus, they are all Gods
@@leafyyy7365 that’s fair they are all gods is just it’s kinda odd cause there also called by other things with just kinda makes this thing a giant mess of what you should call them I generally just don’t like calling them gods unless they are only referred to as god, also sorry if this just sounds bad I’m writing this at like 11 at night so it’s probably written poorly
@@owenqueen1019 It's fine lol. I think there's an association with the word God and the Olympians specifically, because a) the Olympians get discussed much more often, and b) God is a much shorter, and easier to spell, word than Olympian for a lot of people. When people bring up the Titans, they just say Titan because it's a simpler word, like God, so a lot of people assume that Titans and Gods are different because the words are being used in seperate contexts. Or something like that
The actual story of Atlantis is just that it was a powerful city state that was wiped out by a flood. The weird conspiracy people are the ones who said they were like mer-aliens with lasers and stuff
Jesus, even whirlpool got personified into having humans emotions lol
the atlantis story is just something plato (a athenian) made up to make athens seem cool and powerful and iirc atlantis was supposed to be as big as nowaday texas and in the middle of the atlanic
10:34 Atlantis was not a underwater civilization it was hone to still human looking air breathing demigods which died after Atlantis sank
Fun fact: Herodotus was infamous for talking a LOT o shit. Like my man spit bullshit like he was paid to