Me too, and really hope he’s allowed to keep that promise, because the problem in those situations are always the w investors. They’re the ones that don’t care about movies and only want to make money so they push the studios to make more and more.
He is not forcing the narrative by what is popular or what should come next. He is letting the universe evolve with good storytelling which hopefully provides BO returns.
Hot take: I'm much, MUCH more hyped for a more established Batman, potentially with some comic-accurate elements, such as a trophy room in the Batcave, and a pre-existing Bat-family, than for another "gritty, realistic" take on Batman. (That's not a diss on Reeves' Batman, by the way, I really liked The Batman and LOVED The Penguin)
Exactly . This entire argument about Battinson Reeves in the same universe as this new Superman From Gunn is really showing me the casuals against the real fans. Let us have a grounded detective CRIME saga , and let us have a fantastical Batman that can fit in with the new Superman with the infinite DC heroes like Mr Terrific, super pets, Kaijus , aliens etc . like how do people not understand this? even after Gunn literally said he likes having Elseworlds stories and they will be separate!
@@worldview3182Let us have 2 Distinct Batmen. The Young Grounded detective coming into his own (Reevesverse) and the Fantastical Veteran (DCU). Realistic and Fantastical.
Agreed he’s a superhero in a fantasy comic book land I have no interest in a grounded in reality crime thriller for Batman, no hate to Reeves I wish success for him, but his success won’t come from me or others that have more interest in watching the DCU come together than a particular directors take on a particular character
Gunn can get seriously dark and explicit. suicide squad was balanced with jokes and violence. if brightburn was anyincmdication that gunn knows his characters I think his batman would be very dark and in the shadows of this new dcu
Reeves version of The Batman belongs just where he is, in a more realistic world where there are no superheroes. It would just cheapen him by bringing him into the mainstream DCU.
I would rather have Matt Reeves' The Batman stay in the DC Elseworlds. I don't mind two concurrent Batmans. Plus, I feel Pattinson's Batman doesn't quite fit the DCU. Neither does his Gotham.
Why is Gotham so different? I need more explanation on that and then why else wouldn’t it work? Seems to me Reeves Batman is pretty close to the comics, maybe the closest movie to the comic we have other they Begins and we know how Liams character screwed that up. But I don’t see any huge issues with just making Reeves Batman “The Batman”
Dude, I'm so sick of the Pattinson going over to the DCU talk. How many times does James need to shut it down for people to get it? And I just don't think it works anyway. What's already been established with The Batman, and what's about to be established with Superman just simply don't fit. And I'm sorry, but Matt was at WB way before Gunn showed up. And Matt has a dream about what he wants to do with his The Batman Epic Crime Saga, and I think he should be able to finish it. Plus, he JUST said that they're already discussing a Penguin season 2. And I'm sorry, but if that DID happen, I won't just role with it. If they cancelled The Batman universe, you'll see a whole different side of me, lol. I just can't see his Batman with giant fire breathing monsters, and a little dog that can fly. It just wouldn't work. Plus, I don't even think Pattinson would want to do it. But it's not going to happen. So, I'm not worried at the moment. And I hope whatever is going on with Matt, it's not a situation where a family member is sick or something, especially his son or something. My god, my heart would break for him.
I beg to differ , actually reeves batman and junns superman fits like the yin and the yang , they come from different worlds but they complete each other , its as they say opposites attract , and reeves can build up slowly his films towards the fantastical side and I think it would be great
@@baronbayne9899saying it wouldn’t fit is like saying a third of Batman’s mythos can’t fit. But sure, let’s retread Nolan ground to ground to indulge reeves and make dc more fragmented. Year one was an inspiration for reeves and that story was always meant to be a pre crisis origin for Batman
Y’all are getting way too upset about this kind of stuff. Just let fans have fun we these things. Gunn said it himself, it’s all fiction at the end of the day, and anything can be canon depending on how u look at it, bc it’s fiction lol.
Look up and believe a man can fly. Looks like a bit of old and new combined. Seems to be a movie for everyone, Adults and Children alike. Appears to have bright spots, cheerful spots, emotion as well as a bit of a darkside. Let's hope it's what we've all wanted, our comic book hero back.
The true essence of Superman is back. That trailer is a huge hit. 250 million views across all platforms tells me the general audience is definitely interested. 👌
Gotta admit I’m honestly really surprised at how much this trailer has popped off. I knew it would generate plenty of hype, but not THIS much. Truthfully I felt like the Superman brand on screen was a little tainted atm. Maybe it’s James Gunn bringing in a lot of the marvel audience. Idk
@@owenorders5202 I couldn't imagine being such a pathetic hater. Do you not get laid? Are you just miserable with your career? Sorry I'm just curious what makes someone so pathetically pessimistic and unable to enjoy awesome looking movies.
There’s someone in the nightmare vision next to Batman, vigilante and judo master. He is impaled through the chest and starting upwards. He looks like he’s wearing trunks but it’s hard to tell. My guess is a classic Aquman.
28:45 Boba, wasn’t there a report that the DCU would be like the Star Wars expanded universe where projects all occur at different time periods? Maybe this Titans project simply happens earlier chronologically before Brave and the Bold or even other projects.
@@blaiseohaji Would it really be that weird tho? There have likely been other teams before considering Lord Industries has their own team. And it's not like it'd be that out of the norm in general considering the JSA came way before the Justice League most iterations of the main continuity.
i hope the titans movie would be sort of a prequel movie and all though i love tas lineup hopefully they give kf, speedy, wondergirl and garth a chance
I accidentally stumbled upon a “DCEU/SnyderVerse” fan group on Facebook and it’s insane the hoops that they’re jumping through to badmouth and belittle anything about this trailer is absolutely hilarious. I like Snyder’s movies, especially ZSJL, but that fandom is absolutely horrid. They’re probably the most mockably toxic and blinded-by-rage fans out there (right alongside the most toxic Star Wars fans)
Then don’t say fandom when you like Zack’s movies too lol, call them cultists but props to the genuine Snyder fans that actually want to enjoy a great Superman movie spreading love.
@@jturner2577 Honestly, if we get a DCEU Elseworlds, I'd hope for something like Kingdom Come instead. It would make a nice send-off to characters and actors that could use at least one proper respectful treatment.
I 100% percent believe it is Milly Alcock Supergirl because Milly is credited on Wiki in the Superman movie cast list and on IMDB Milly is credited on the list and if you type her upcoming projects it shows Superman and Supergirl Woman Of Tomorrow. So yeah it's probably definitely Milly who else could it be and James Gunn did not announce Milly public to be in this Superman movie but the fans know though.
Battinson’s age was never technically reveled, so he could the right age to have a son. But it would REALLY be pushing it and his son would need to born while Bruce is at least 18… for obvious reason. So because of all that, and everything James has said countless times, I still think it’ll be a different actor for the DCU.
@ This is correct. But that says nothing about his age. I think Bruce is typically 25 when he becomes Batman, so by that logic he’d be around 27. But from I remember they make no mention of his age in the film. But it’s my understanding he’s probably about 30 in The Batman.
Give me Wally West Flash over Barry. Perhaps Barry was friends with Kyle Chandler’s Green Lantern and then gave his life as he did in Crisis on Infinite Earths. I’d be happy with that
From the trailer, this film looks like it may be pretty good…My only complaint so far is the suit and how it fits Supes, they fix that up and I’m pretty much sold 💯💯💯
People seem to have forgotten Pattinson almost walked away after the FIRST movie…dude barely wanted to do a trilogy…blows my mind people think he would even want to do a 8-10 year plan with many appearances of a character as prevalent as Batman. Meaning he has to stay in peak condition for years. No way that happens.
Wtf are you on mate? when did pattinson walk away from the first movie? why would he even take up the role of batman if he doesn't want to do it? whatever you said is plain bullshit. and fyi pattinson said he's willing to play batman as long as people want him to.
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The ONLY way I see Robert Pattinson in the DCU is through the following; Remember how Daredevil Born Again was supposed to be before they changed it and made it a proper season 4? Before it was canned, the original script of Season 4 retconned a lot of the original series and changed up the actors, while other actors were still the same (Matt and Kingpin) and some plot elements were the same. If Robert comes to the DCU, they can say that Matt's world was its own thing, still an Elseworld, but they will be able to take Rob, some actors, and stories from that universe. If this is the case, everyone wins I suppose. That's the only way. As of right now, I still believe that it is not happening and that we're getting a new Batman actor.
A lot of people are forgetting that in main storyline comics for DC, they have implemented Elseworlds characters, only if they're is a Multiversal threat. If James Gunn wants to dig into the multiverse he needs elseworlds, that means there is a chance we can see Robert Pattinson's batman and DCU batman in the same screen. This is just chapter one guys so I too would prefer reeve's batman to be separate.
Know what I think? Dick Grayson isn't the leader of the new titans. Hes gonna be the "guide" for Damian on how to lead a team properly. Cuz they said the titans have long been seperated, so its probably Damian being the second chance that Dick needs for the Titans
(I’d love your thoughts on this in your upcoming theory discussion video) In regards to the rumors of Pattinson being the DCU Batman, I would prefer something very specific. I want the DCU to start out as a grounded version of Batman but that would then gradually transition into a fantastical take. The best example I can think of is the Long Halloween which starts with the mob as the main villains, before then ending with a Gotham full of freaks. My preferred example though is that of a novel called Enemies and Allies which is a retelling of Superman and Batman’s first meeting. In this story, the two are up against Luthor, but because of a misunderstanding, Batman thinks Superman is working for Lex and throughout the story is trying to find out what kind of technology Luthor has given Superman to trick everyone into thinking he’s an alien. Eventually, he accepts Superman, and this acts as his first taste of the fantastical world of DC. Also, wanted to add this on at the end: a very merry Christmas to both you and your wife and a happy new year!
Grace Randolph apparently called Mr.Terrific's haircut too black power. i'm not apologizing for shit lol I have so much faith in Gunn's vision. Thanks for the updates Boba!!
She also said peacemaker is for straight white men, in marvel when pedro pascal got cast she said invisible woman can choose between two caramels in pedro pascals mr fanstasic and the namor actor. I used to watch her but I’ve realized how toxic and unprofessional she is. She has repeatedly called david cornswet small in size, he isnt “cheesecake material”, etc. Also called superman trailer souless and AI generated. Idk should i keep going. Yeah her recent dcu coverage made me stop following her.
I mean if Dick Grayson is leading the team it would back up why Starfire herself is almost Amazonian in size in the cameo of Creature Commandos. It's likely there will be the original team, who are a little older maybe 25-27 and then the younger team which will have Kid Flash and possibly Damian Wayne
Even if they decide to move Reeves Batman to DCU, I don't think they will be able to do it in Batman 2. It will be too forced. The best they can do is put some indirect references in 2nd movie, and by end of 3rd movie, introduce a character or two from DCU which pushes Batman in DCU for movies beyond that.
hearing the words of superman in that report on boravia, I would be so down to hear a captain america esc speach in this movie from superman. I think that would be so damn cool and inspiring
Red Tornado is also implied. I also hope that Matt Reeves and his work are integrated into the DCU. He has created a strong version of the character who would play a perfect foil to Superman; even if his personal films have nothing to do with the DCU.
I think it will be dick Grayson as long as the movie takes place before brave and the bold. And before anyone says “how can u do titans before Batman in the dcu” it’s not that big of deal and u can have a Batman cameo in the end credit setting up brave and the bold
While I agree with the deep dive into why Matt reeves Batman remains separate, I must say that the annoyance is a bit much when i think it’s just fans gassing up having a Batman and Superman on the big screen again, and just having fun with that concept. I don’t get why batverse fans are so annoyed at that, but I can understand being irritated at having to constantly shut those kinds of rumors down, especially when there’s so much on the table in regards to this infancy era of the dcu. Just my two cents tho!
Barry Allen could always be missing at this point in the timeline. Maybe he disappeared during a villain fight. And in Teen Titans Wally could end up getting his version of The Flash suit, after several years as the only Speedster hero. I think it would be fun.
Why is it so hard for people to understand Matt can make his own Batman movies and help the DCU with theirs. It’s quite genius the relationship DC Studios has with him. Out of all the Batman Direcotrs he understands the character the best and that whole world fantastical and grounded. Have him do his own thing but overlook the Batman part of the DCU so it runs smoothly and doesn’t intervene
My dream lineup: Nightwing/Robin(Grayson) Flash (Wally West obviously) Donna Troy Raven Starfire Cyborg Beast Boy Please Gunn this can be done 7 is not too much!! Id be slightly disappointed if Donna and Wally aren’t on the team.
If we get teen titans before Batman the brave and the bold I can see a scenario where we see Dick becoming Nightwing in the beginning of the titans film, and then they say we’ve gone through 2 robins by the time Brave and the bold comes out. Perhaps we get a game or animated series focusing on Batman’s time with them before then too but that’s just a theory, because it’s interesting to me that we see kid flash as well, I can’t really see Dick being Nightwing unless Wally is The Flash at the same time. Also worth noting that we know Gunns universe is happening in real time, I remember he said that creature commandos happens months before Superman which is exactly how the release schedule is, so with that said again I can see a scenario where titans comes out maybe by next year or so, and then B:B&TB takes place about 2 years, leaving room for Damian to be introduced.
We’re still talking about a bat themed billionaire vigilante detective. Pattinson should be in the DCU. It’s not too grounded. That’s like saying a third of Batman’s mythos can’t be in continuity. Reeves doesn’t have to be micromanaged to oblivion. Gunn’s approach to Penguin is proof of that. And the contrast is the whole point of Batman and Superman. Nolan’s not making these movies anymore. Even great creatives need restraints. Matt reeves shouldn’t be indulged to the point where it makes dc disjointed for the sake of his “vision”. We have a Batman and Superman around the same age coming out within a year. Enough retreading of Nolan. Reeves is producing a Batman and clayface movie a month apart and they’re not connected. It just makes dc disjointed. Reeves shouldn’t get to be indulged in every whim. It’s one creative. Pattinson is 38. His Batman is 28. Time jump would fix that and there is practically no development on brave and the bold so it could be scrapped entirely. And Pattinson is too good not to be the main Batman. And it’s more messy to have two ongoing cinematic universes to indulge pretentiousness. If you see the Batman in a vacuum, there’s no reason why it can’t be part of a universe. The grounded argument is so stupid. Year one was an inspiration for reeves and yet that book is meant to be an in continuity post crisis version of Batman. We should not be indulging a creative to have his own universe when we’ve done the whole grounded Batman already. I’m not saying force reeves to make a movie he doesn’t want to make. I’m saying, once he’s done, get someone else with Pattinson to do a more fantastical movie. It’s so nonsensical to say we should have two batmen, one fantastical and one grounded when that’s basically just making both versions less interesting. Batman is a very versatile multidimensional character. He can fight gangsters and serial killers but also clay monsters and be on the justice league. But sure, another grounded Batman movie, you mean like the last 5? Bruce Timm has done great work for Batman in media. Does that mean we should indulge his stupid “vision” to have Bruce batgirl sleep together? Reeves Gotham should feel different than Gunn’s metropolis. That’s the whole point. Would you rather have everything be and feel the same?
I wholeheartedly agree here. Batman can have more grounded moments, and still be part of a larger universe. It wouldn't "ruin" anything Reeves has done to have Pattinson be interacting with Superman. Also, casuals are sick of the constant rebooting. They aren't going to be excited for yet another Batman casting.
@ maybe it’s because we’ve gotten too many Batman movies that are apologetic of the source material. I loved the Batman. My problem is restricting Pattinson to just that and retreading old ground when Batman can have grounded as well as fantastical stories instead of splitting them apart making them less interesting. The multifaceted nature of the character is part of what makes him and his mythos so great.
Agree with everything you said. I wonder why can't Reeves have a thought process like this and have his batman join the DCU. I guess he doesn't want to take risks considering how bad the dceu was. but I'm still holding onto little hope hope for this to happen. if superman is a big success then maybe reeves will change his plans. that too only if they don't cast batman for brave and the bold until then.
Imo for the best credit scenes in a cinematic universe, show a scene or a tease for the next thing that's already filming. That way you don't lock yourself into something you may not want 3 years from now and the tease gets paid off within a year. Like if they have anything shot from Lanterns or Supergirl or I think they already shot Peacemaker. Show a scene or shoot a new scene leading into that. That's when Marvel's post credits scenes were at their best
Could they put Reeves' Batman into the DCU? Yes. Should they? No Like you, said IF it happened I'd have go w/ it but Because they've said that DC Studios will be doing else-worlds stories/films the best thing to do is leave Reeves' Bat-verse to be its own thing. Everything doesn't have to be connected like the MCU.
on the one hand, i think the contrast between Corenswet's Superman and Pattinson's Batman really highlight each other by virtue of hiw different and well characterized they are, but on the other hand, the Reeves universe may be a bit to grounded and realistic to explore the fantastical side of Batman, not to mention I can't really see that Batman working well with the Justice League or the extended Batfamily. A new Batman may be necessary, and their approach being diametrically opposite may be the way both can coexist without confusing everyone.
While I think the DCU Batman should be played by a different actor than Pattinson, his Batman and Corenswet's Superman definitely looks like they go to the same tailor. 😏
My take on merging the Reeves universe with the DCU: Do people really want The Batman to be littered with retcons? I love where Reeves is taking his universe; please don’t do this. I want him to conclude his trilogy as he intended AND I want to see a fantastical Bat-Family in the DCU. Make them different enough and no one will end up confused.
Has anyone been attached to the Authority project yet? If not, I think that could very well be James Gunn's next project. That seems to be the type of thing he specializes in.
I prefer they just keep it separate cause fans would be mad if Gunn forced Reeves to put his Batman in the DCU. Plus it's a great chance for another actor to put their stamp on an iconic character.
Does Robert Pattinson even want to join the DCU? Like has he been asked about it in interviews? I feel like fans are running away with the assumption that he’d do it just cuz he’s playing Batman.
Its still ridiculous that people think robert pattinson batman will be the dcu batman. When both gunn and reeves already stated its not. And probably dont want to remind them again seeing as how absurd people are getting.
Lot of people don't watch anything beside trailers so they don't know. I don't blame them but there are lot of youtubers spreading these misinformation as well. I saw comments saying I will give Superman:Legacy movie a chance even though there is no "legacy" part anymore anywhere in the trailer or promotional material
You might have watched this year's "The Substance". I can see Clayface going in a similar direction, leaning into body horror connected to beauty standards
I think it's funny how some fans went from complaining about Bat-bargo druring the Nolan's batman trilogy, to now wanting to force an else world trilogy into the DCU
Boba you are right. Reeves Batman should remain untouched by anyone other than Reeves. I wish all this noise would go away. I dislike so much of the fan culture around comic book movies, it’s so pathetic. (Except you, you’re very logical and reasoned)
I just hope that at some point, Matt Reeves can write a World's Finest Comic or something so we could get a taste of what it'd be like to see a Reeves Batman crossover with a Superman. Not even saying it has to be Pattinson Batman, Just *A* Reeves Batman.
This could be a flash back movie let’s not forget that possibility. We don’t know much about the DCU timeline and if it will follow a strict linear timeline.
The hammer is 100% Lexx and his war suit before it gets a paint job. He’s funding and creating conflicts to make Superman look bad. It’s a literal metaphor for the real world.
James Gunn has already said we will get Elseworld stories. He mentioned maybe doing a Red Son movie. If it did happen id assume David would play Superman in that. So... Why can't Pattinson be both Batmans for DCU and Reeves Universe? Let the Reeves trilogy finish. Let Batman then be introduced as an older Batman with a bat family in the DCU.
All super heroes should be cleaning up the places they fight with their super powers after the damage is done. Flash and Superman getting helped out by whoever will always suffice.
I somehow doubt that Pattinson’s Batman could fall from orbit in nothing but the batsuit, while putting his trunks over his mouth AND I WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN ON SCREEN
The mystery guy looks kind of like that annihilator from the hawk and dove episode of Justice league where there is a war and one side creates a robot to fight the other side
Maybe Starfire might take the leadership role. Since Dick has moved on from being Robin and is now Nightwing? Similar like the animated universe film where Damien Wayne and Jaime Reyes bunt heads at first.
With the huge success of The Penguin - which will surely get even more successful after awards season - it makes even less sense that The Batman Part II would change universes or get cancelled and Pattinson scooped up for the Brave and the Bold. After getting established in the first movie and strongly backed up with The Penguin, we'll see even more things set in the Batman crime saga in the coming years. This is such a weird persistent rumor that makes no sense and I don't get why it keeps coming up. It is far less confusing to say there are two different Batmen in two different universes than to have one Batman change universes and we have to pretend it was always that way or just ignore the fact that the first Batman movie exists. By all accounts, Pattinson is a deeply weird person and it seems like he is drawn to weird roles. And his Batman is a weirdo! I don't think he would want to vanilla it up with a more traditional portrayal of Bruce.
I don't think The Batman should join the DCU, but I would like to point out that that batman is year 2, so 27, while by the time part 2 release Pattison will be 40, while people are saying that whoever should be DCU batman, a batman on his 4th Robin, at least year 10, should be under 40.
I wish they hadn't taken such extreme when introducing Kyle Raynor as green lantern.... Because people took out their frustration with how they did that on poor Kyle. Early Kyle was by day my personal favorite Green Pattern. of they had the him more gracefully.... He probably would be pretty popular. Would have been a great young green lantern!
In my opinion, the only way to have Pattinson in the DCU (Without cancelling The Brave & The Bold), would be a sort of 'Daredevil: Born Again' situation, with his Batman returning to the screen many years after the events of Reeves' trilogy in-universe. With the trilogy being considered his early years, and we now see him years later in TB&TB after he lives through the Batfamily and such. If not, you just cancel TB&TB and just keep going with the Reevesverse now in the DCU. But I do think it would be best to cast a new actor, and I find that people that say it doesn't make sense, or would be too confusing to have two Batmen are exaggerating a bit. I don't think the general audience would dislike that or anything, as I believe the two would be quite different in terms of aesthetic and storyline. With that said, I do believe that we won't ever get a better actor to play Batman than Robert Pattinson, I really see him as the best actor of his generation and the most perfect casting for the role. But still, there's a few I could see put on the cowl in the foreseeable future, my personal favourites for the DCU right now are Brandon Sklenar and Winston Duke!
The batman is set in the present time, the dates have been shown in many frames throughout the movie and they cannot be changed now after the movie has released, riddler was posting videos on tiktok too so that can’t be ancient times
@rjk537 I know that, which is why it wouldn't work to have Pattinson in TB&TB unless you do some tweaking/retconning of the timeline, which I personally wouldn't really care about but I do think it could be a bit messy.
Regarding Wally West and the Teen Titans rumors, i believe Booster is the one on the Wonder Woman shot. Kind of a stretch but i think Wally is in the Batman shot. There is someone behind him that has, what i think looks like Flash's belt and its colored red. Given that it looks like John Stewart will be our main DCU Green Lantern, I have a feeling Wally might be our main DCU Flash. If that ends up being the case and RPK's scoop about the Teen Titans movie turns out to be true, that movie may be set in the past. In my opinion, that would be cool because Teen Titans and Justice League animated are good blue prints to follow. On a side note, if we do get a Teen Titans roster similar to the cartoons, that means Dynamic Duo is most likely Elseworlds which has been my guess hehehe Just wanted to share my theories 😂 As always, thanks for the awesome content, Boba!
42:46 all they have to do is… make Batman 1 & 2, and potentially even Batman 3, be prequels to the DCU. Preferably, 1&2 only with Batman 3 happening at the same point where Superman takes his first flight.
I think there may be a plotline in the story where maybe Superman is getting some pushback from both sides so to speak. maybe its a situation where people are mad at him for basically "bringing the Boravia war to metropolis" putting more people in danger and maybe also from the superhero community side who are mostly corporate superheroes saying "we aren't supposed to get involved with stuff like that only what wer're assigned" essentially and Guy saying the same thing acting under a mix of that and Green Lantern code (not sure entirely if that'd apply but I imagine a lot of lanterns that are sanctioned to work in a sector can't interfere with interplanetary struggles like Sinestro did) and maybe it's gonna culminate in a thing where Superman reminds everyone they're heroes for the people first. I'm pretty sure this is what you're saying with the reverse kingom come but I wanted to get my thoughts out.
So refreshing that Gunn will only greenlight projects with a finished script.
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Me too, and really hope he’s allowed to keep that promise, because the problem in those situations are always the w investors. They’re the ones that don’t care about movies and only want to make money so they push the studios to make more and more.
He is not forcing the narrative by what is popular or what should come next. He is letting the universe evolve with good storytelling which hopefully provides BO returns.
This year has been a monumental beginning for the DCU!
will see, let's stay cautiously optimisitc as some people say.
Gunn is usually good tho.
except for joker folie a doodoo
@@TheGuyWhoEditz147 That's not DCU and as Gunn said he had nothing to do with it.
That is a WB movie.
I feel like when there is color, and you take it to that emotional dark place it can land better than if EVERYTHING is dark and gloomy
Superman: "Krypto... home... take me home..."
yup. that is something that was said, we know.
………..
Then kryptos gonna be like 😮"oh,you don't know..."
I wanna see a horror film based on Krypto like we got of young Clark in Brightburn.
@@cw1345 Just fin your closest "princess" in your area, add it a cape and there you go
Hot take: I'm much, MUCH more hyped for a more established Batman, potentially with some comic-accurate elements, such as a trophy room in the Batcave, and a pre-existing Bat-family, than for another "gritty, realistic" take on Batman.
(That's not a diss on Reeves' Batman, by the way, I really liked The Batman and LOVED The Penguin)
Same thoughts
Exactly . This entire argument about Battinson Reeves in the same universe as this new Superman From Gunn is really showing me the casuals against the real fans. Let us have a grounded detective CRIME saga , and let us have a fantastical Batman that can fit in with the new Superman with the infinite DC heroes like Mr Terrific, super pets, Kaijus , aliens etc . like how do people not understand this? even after Gunn literally said he likes having Elseworlds stories and they will be separate!
@@worldview3182Let us have 2 Distinct Batmen. The Young Grounded detective coming into his own (Reevesverse) and the Fantastical Veteran (DCU).
Realistic and Fantastical.
Agreed he’s a superhero in a fantasy comic book land I have no interest in a grounded in reality crime thriller for Batman, no hate to Reeves I wish success for him, but his success won’t come from me or others that have more interest in watching the DCU come together than a particular directors take on a particular character
I am just over "grounded and realistic " Batman, I want every aspect of him and there is a huge part of fantastical with it.
Man-Bat would be a fantastic addition to the team in S2 imo, fits right in and fills the vampire-esquire role
This is what DC is supposed to look like, not dark and gloomy. This really looks like an animated DC film come to life.
Looks hokey.
Gunn can get seriously dark and explicit. suicide squad was balanced with jokes and violence. if brightburn was anyincmdication that gunn knows his characters I think his batman would be very dark and in the shadows of this new dcu
The DCU Batman should not be the same Batman as the Reevesverse. There's plenty of room for the Loner Batman and Batdad.
Agreed, on all accounts.
I don’t know about “shouldn’t”…. I’m open to letting James Gunn do what he needs to fit his vision.
Robert Pattinson is 38 he’s batdad
Reeves version of The Batman belongs just where he is, in a more realistic world where there are no superheroes. It would just cheapen him by bringing him into the mainstream DCU.
@@SosaDBZproblem is, he doesn't look like he's 38.
Btw Mark Hamill posted about his excitement for Superman on Instagram…even the celebrities are hyped!!
Mark hamill is woke tho lol
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Thanks for the shout out. Loved your vid!
Of course, keep up the good work man!
I would rather have Matt Reeves' The Batman stay in the DC Elseworlds. I don't mind two concurrent Batmans. Plus, I feel Pattinson's Batman doesn't quite fit the DCU. Neither does his Gotham.
@@Zlopez671 you know Gotham isn’t supposed to look like the rest of the world right lol
After batman 3
Agreed. Absolutely. He's a more realistic version of The Batman in a more realistic Gotham.
Especially since the Batmen will be polar opposites in tones/characterization.
Why is Gotham so different? I need more explanation on that and then why else wouldn’t it work? Seems to me Reeves Batman is pretty close to the comics, maybe the closest movie to the comic we have other they Begins and we know how Liams character screwed that up. But I don’t see any huge issues with just making Reeves Batman “The Batman”
Dude, I'm so sick of the Pattinson going over to the DCU talk. How many times does James need to shut it down for people to get it? And I just don't think it works anyway. What's already been established with The Batman, and what's about to be established with Superman just simply don't fit. And I'm sorry, but Matt was at WB way before Gunn showed up. And Matt has a dream about what he wants to do with his The Batman Epic Crime Saga, and I think he should be able to finish it. Plus, he JUST said that they're already discussing a Penguin season 2.
And I'm sorry, but if that DID happen, I won't just role with it. If they cancelled The Batman universe, you'll see a whole different side of me, lol. I just can't see his Batman with giant fire breathing monsters, and a little dog that can fly. It just wouldn't work. Plus, I don't even think Pattinson would want to do it.
But it's not going to happen. So, I'm not worried at the moment. And I hope whatever is going on with Matt, it's not a situation where a family member is sick or something, especially his son or something. My god, my heart would break for him.
It wouldn’t fit AT ALL. It’s so dumb. Yet so many people continue to give it credence. Annoying as heck.
Some people wouldn’t move on from that
I beg to differ , actually reeves batman and junns superman fits like the yin and the yang , they come from different worlds but they complete each other , its as they say opposites attract , and reeves can build up slowly his films towards the fantastical side and I think it would be great
@@baronbayne9899saying it wouldn’t fit is like saying a third of Batman’s mythos can’t fit. But sure, let’s retread Nolan ground to ground to indulge reeves and make dc more fragmented. Year one was an inspiration for reeves and that story was always meant to be a pre crisis origin for Batman
Y’all are getting way too upset about this kind of stuff. Just let fans have fun we these things. Gunn said it himself, it’s all fiction at the end of the day, and anything can be canon depending on how u look at it, bc it’s fiction lol.
Well, if there's Chocos, there is....
Martian Manhunter
Yes, I am Man
I hope he appears soon in DCU.
Merry Christmas and a SUPER New Year Boba and everyone here!
Look up and believe a man can fly. Looks like a bit of old and new combined. Seems to be a movie for everyone, Adults and Children alike. Appears to have bright spots, cheerful spots, emotion as well as a bit of a darkside. Let's hope it's what we've all wanted, our comic book hero back.
Bring on the DCU in live action! Cannot wait til July!
The true essence of Superman is back. That trailer is a huge hit. 250 million views across all platforms tells me the general audience is definitely interested. 👌
Yeah, a lot of people are fascinated by looking at car crashes too...
Superman Returns trailer was better.
Gotta admit I’m honestly really surprised at how much this trailer has popped off. I knew it would generate plenty of hype, but not THIS much. Truthfully I felt like the Superman brand on screen was a little tainted atm. Maybe it’s James Gunn bringing in a lot of the marvel audience. Idk
@@owenorders5202 I couldn't imagine being such a pathetic hater. Do you not get laid? Are you just miserable with your career? Sorry I'm just curious what makes someone so pathetically pessimistic and unable to enjoy awesome looking movies.
Brandon Sklenar as Batman and Adelaide Kane as Catwoman in the DCU
100% agree
sklenar is way better the ANsen JEclkes (as batman) imo
@@worldview3182ansen jeckles lmao
Never apologize TO or FOR Grace Randolph
There’s someone in the nightmare vision next to Batman, vigilante and judo master. He is impaled through the chest and starting upwards. He looks like he’s wearing trunks but it’s hard to tell. My guess is a classic Aquman.
That's Flash
28:45 Boba, wasn’t there a report that the DCU would be like the Star Wars expanded universe where projects all occur at different time periods? Maybe this Titans project simply happens earlier chronologically before Brave and the Bold or even other projects.
Yeha but wouldn't it be weird that the Teen Titans chronologically existed before even the Justice League? Idk man.
@@blaiseohaji Would it really be that weird tho? There have likely been other teams before considering Lord Industries has their own team.
And it's not like it'd be that out of the norm in general considering the JSA came way before the Justice League most iterations of the main continuity.
@@goji253 fair fair
i hope the titans movie would be sort of a prequel movie and all though i love tas lineup hopefully they give kf, speedy, wondergirl and garth a chance
I accidentally stumbled upon a “DCEU/SnyderVerse” fan group on Facebook and it’s insane the hoops that they’re jumping through to badmouth and belittle anything about this trailer is absolutely hilarious. I like Snyder’s movies, especially ZSJL, but that fandom is absolutely horrid. They’re probably the most mockably toxic and blinded-by-rage fans out there (right alongside the most toxic Star Wars fans)
They don't speak for the majority of the fandom
Then don’t say fandom when you like Zack’s movies too lol, call them cultists but props to the genuine Snyder fans that actually want to enjoy a great Superman movie spreading love.
@@I-amJerome Or are apathetic and focusing on pushing for JL 2 and 3 as Elseworlds.
@@jturner2577 Honestly, if we get a DCEU Elseworlds, I'd hope for something like Kingdom Come instead. It would make a nice send-off to characters and actors that could use at least one proper respectful treatment.
snyder cultists are the maga of movie fandom. they are hardcore and persistent in their cluelessness.
I 100% percent believe it is Milly Alcock Supergirl because Milly is credited on Wiki in the Superman movie cast list and on IMDB Milly is credited on the list and if you type her upcoming projects it shows Superman and Supergirl Woman Of Tomorrow. So yeah it's probably definitely Milly who else could it be and James Gunn did not announce Milly public to be in this Superman movie but the fans know though.
Battinson’s age was never technically reveled, so he could the right age to have a son. But it would REALLY be pushing it and his son would need to born while Bruce is at least 18… for obvious reason.
So because of all that, and everything James has said countless times, I still think it’ll be a different actor for the DCU.
They say he's been Batman for 2 years so that make things clear
@ This is correct. But that says nothing about his age. I think Bruce is typically 25 when he becomes Batman, so by that logic he’d be around 27. But from I remember they make no mention of his age in the film. But it’s my understanding he’s probably about 30 in The Batman.
Give me Wally West Flash over Barry. Perhaps Barry was friends with Kyle Chandler’s Green Lantern and then gave his life as he did in Crisis on Infinite Earths. I’d be happy with that
From the trailer, this film looks like it may be pretty good…My only complaint so far is the suit and how it fits Supes, they fix that up and I’m pretty much sold 💯💯💯
I m praying that that is Wally as kid flash so we can still have Barry as flash and the iconic friendship between Wally and nightwing as titans
I LOVED The Batman, Robert was great! I DO NOT WANT HIM to be the ONLY Batman.
People seem to have forgotten Pattinson almost walked away after the FIRST movie…dude barely wanted to do a trilogy…blows my mind people think he would even want to do a 8-10 year plan with many appearances of a character as prevalent as Batman. Meaning he has to stay in peak condition for years. No way that happens.
What are you talking about? I have never seen anything about Rob wanting to walk away
Wtf are you on mate? when did pattinson walk away from the first movie? why would he even take up the role of batman if he doesn't want to do it? whatever you said is plain bullshit. and fyi pattinson said he's willing to play batman as long as people want him to.
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The ONLY way I see Robert Pattinson in the DCU is through the following; Remember how Daredevil Born Again was supposed to be before they changed it and made it a proper season 4? Before it was canned, the original script of Season 4 retconned a lot of the original series and changed up the actors, while other actors were still the same (Matt and Kingpin) and some plot elements were the same. If Robert comes to the DCU, they can say that Matt's world was its own thing, still an Elseworld, but they will be able to take Rob, some actors, and stories from that universe. If this is the case, everyone wins I suppose.
That's the only way. As of right now, I still believe that it is not happening and that we're getting a new Batman actor.
Getting a new Batman for the DCU just sounds better to me.
what happened with that show?
A lot of people are forgetting that in main storyline comics for DC, they have implemented Elseworlds characters, only if they're is a Multiversal threat. If James Gunn wants to dig into the multiverse he needs elseworlds, that means there is a chance we can see Robert Pattinson's batman and DCU batman in the same screen. This is just chapter one guys so I too would prefer reeve's batman to be separate.
Know what I think? Dick Grayson isn't the leader of the new titans. Hes gonna be the "guide" for Damian on how to lead a team properly. Cuz they said the titans have long been seperated, so its probably Damian being the second chance that Dick needs for the Titans
We just want a batman.
(I’d love your thoughts on this in your upcoming theory discussion video) In regards to the rumors of Pattinson being the DCU Batman, I would prefer something very specific. I want the DCU to start out as a grounded version of Batman but that would then gradually transition into a fantastical take.
The best example I can think of is the Long Halloween which starts with the mob as the main villains, before then ending with a Gotham full of freaks.
My preferred example though is that of a novel called Enemies and Allies which is a retelling of Superman and Batman’s first meeting. In this story, the two are up against Luthor, but because of a misunderstanding, Batman thinks Superman is working for Lex and throughout the story is trying to find out what kind of technology Luthor has given Superman to trick everyone into thinking he’s an alien. Eventually, he accepts Superman, and this acts as his first taste of the fantastical world of DC.
Also, wanted to add this on at the end: a very merry Christmas to both you and your wife and a happy new year!
Grace Randolph apparently called Mr.Terrific's haircut too black power. i'm not apologizing for shit lol
I have so much faith in Gunn's vision. Thanks for the updates Boba!!
She also said peacemaker is for straight white men, in marvel when pedro pascal got cast she said invisible woman can choose between two caramels in pedro pascals mr fanstasic and the namor actor. I used to watch her but I’ve realized how toxic and unprofessional she is. She has repeatedly called david cornswet small in size, he isnt “cheesecake material”, etc. Also called superman trailer souless and AI generated. Idk should i keep going. Yeah her recent dcu coverage made me stop following her.
I mean if Dick Grayson is leading the team it would back up why Starfire herself is almost Amazonian in size in the cameo of Creature Commandos. It's likely there will be the original team, who are a little older maybe 25-27 and then the younger team which will have Kid Flash and possibly Damian Wayne
Maybe the titans movie could have Grayson bringing in Damian to the team to help him get more social like in the comics
Titans is already in the writing stage so its likely to come before the brave and the bold where Damian will be introduced
Even if they decide to move Reeves Batman to DCU, I don't think they will be able to do it in Batman 2. It will be too forced. The best they can do is put some indirect references in 2nd movie, and by end of 3rd movie, introduce a character or two from DCU which pushes Batman in DCU for movies beyond that.
I love how there’s going to be so much going on in the Superman movie!! can’t wait!!!😭🙏🏾🙏🏾🔥
Choco production unaffected… Martian Manhunter is so relieved.
hearing the words of superman in that report on boravia, I would be so down to hear a captain america esc speach in this movie from superman. I think that would be so damn cool and inspiring
THEORY: Barry, Hal, Guy, Ollie, etc comprise a middle generation between the JSA and JLA.
Red Tornado is also implied. I also hope that Matt Reeves and his work are integrated into the DCU. He has created a strong version of the character who would play a perfect foil to Superman; even if his personal films have nothing to do with the DCU.
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I think it will be dick Grayson as long as the movie takes place before brave and the bold. And before anyone says “how can u do titans before Batman in the dcu” it’s not that big of deal and u can have a Batman cameo in the end credit setting up brave and the bold
While I agree with the deep dive into why Matt reeves Batman remains separate, I must say that the annoyance is a bit much when i think it’s just fans gassing up having a Batman and Superman on the big screen again, and just having fun with that concept. I don’t get why batverse fans are so annoyed at that, but I can understand being irritated at having to constantly shut those kinds of rumors down, especially when there’s so much on the table in regards to this infancy era of the dcu. Just my two cents tho!
Boba's wrong, bring on Battinson in the DCU 😂
Barry Allen could always be missing at this point in the timeline. Maybe he disappeared during a villain fight. And in Teen Titans Wally could end up getting his version of The Flash suit, after several years as the only Speedster hero. I think it would be fun.
Why is it so hard for people to understand Matt can make his own Batman movies and help the DCU with theirs. It’s quite genius the relationship DC Studios has with him. Out of all the Batman Direcotrs he understands the character the best and that whole world fantastical and grounded. Have him do his own thing but overlook the Batman part of the DCU so it runs smoothly and doesn’t intervene
You can also see the flash at 24:35
Third from the left
His belt does look like Barry's
My dream lineup:
Nightwing/Robin(Grayson)
Flash (Wally West obviously)
Donna Troy
Raven
Starfire
Cyborg
Beast Boy
Please Gunn this can be done 7 is not too much!! Id be slightly disappointed if Donna and Wally aren’t on the team.
Wally West with the titans ??!!!🥹thank you Mr Gunn
If we get teen titans before Batman the brave and the bold I can see a scenario where we see Dick becoming Nightwing in the beginning of the titans film, and then they say we’ve gone through 2 robins by the time Brave and the bold comes out. Perhaps we get a game or animated series focusing on Batman’s time with them before then too but that’s just a theory, because it’s interesting to me that we see kid flash as well, I can’t really see Dick being Nightwing unless Wally is The Flash at the same time. Also worth noting that we know Gunns universe is happening in real time, I remember he said that creature commandos happens months before Superman which is exactly how the release schedule is, so with that said again I can see a scenario where titans comes out maybe by next year or so, and then B:B&TB takes place about 2 years, leaving room for Damian to be introduced.
We’re still talking about a bat themed billionaire vigilante detective. Pattinson should be in the DCU. It’s not too grounded. That’s like saying a third of Batman’s mythos can’t be in continuity. Reeves doesn’t have to be micromanaged to oblivion. Gunn’s approach to Penguin is proof of that. And the contrast is the whole point of Batman and Superman. Nolan’s not making these movies anymore. Even great creatives need restraints. Matt reeves shouldn’t be indulged to the point where it makes dc disjointed for the sake of his “vision”. We have a Batman and Superman around the same age coming out within a year. Enough retreading of Nolan. Reeves is producing a Batman and clayface movie a month apart and they’re not connected. It just makes dc disjointed. Reeves shouldn’t get to be indulged in every whim. It’s one creative. Pattinson is 38. His Batman is 28. Time jump would fix that and there is practically no development on brave and the bold so it could be scrapped entirely. And Pattinson is too good not to be the main Batman. And it’s more messy to have two ongoing cinematic universes to indulge pretentiousness. If you see the Batman in a vacuum, there’s no reason why it can’t be part of a universe. The grounded argument is so stupid. Year one was an inspiration for reeves and yet that book is meant to be an in continuity post crisis version of Batman. We should not be indulging a creative to have his own universe when we’ve done the whole grounded Batman already. I’m not saying force reeves to make a movie he doesn’t want to make. I’m saying, once he’s done, get someone else with Pattinson to do a more fantastical movie. It’s so nonsensical to say we should have two batmen, one fantastical and one grounded when that’s basically just making both versions less interesting. Batman is a very versatile multidimensional character. He can fight gangsters and serial killers but also clay monsters and be on the justice league. But sure, another grounded Batman movie, you mean like the last 5? Bruce Timm has done great work for Batman in media. Does that mean we should indulge his stupid “vision” to have Bruce batgirl sleep together? Reeves Gotham should feel different than Gunn’s metropolis. That’s the whole point. Would you rather have everything be and feel the same?
I wholeheartedly agree here. Batman can have more grounded moments, and still be part of a larger universe. It wouldn't "ruin" anything Reeves has done to have Pattinson be interacting with Superman. Also, casuals are sick of the constant rebooting. They aren't going to be excited for yet another Batman casting.
@@erkscollectibles and Batman can have grounded stories still lol people act like that isn’t possible
What’s with all the disdain towards grounded Batman? If the movie is great who cares?
@ maybe it’s because we’ve gotten too many Batman movies that are apologetic of the source material. I loved the Batman. My problem is restricting Pattinson to just that and retreading old ground when Batman can have grounded as well as fantastical stories instead of splitting them apart making them less interesting. The multifaceted nature of the character is part of what makes him and his mythos so great.
Agree with everything you said. I wonder why can't Reeves have a thought process like this and have his batman join the DCU. I guess he doesn't want to take risks considering how bad the dceu was. but I'm still holding onto little hope hope for this to happen. if superman is a big success then maybe reeves will change his plans. that too only if they don't cast batman for brave and the bold until then.
Imo for the best credit scenes in a cinematic universe, show a scene or a tease for the next thing that's already filming. That way you don't lock yourself into something you may not want 3 years from now and the tease gets paid off within a year. Like if they have anything shot from Lanterns or Supergirl or I think they already shot Peacemaker. Show a scene or shoot a new scene leading into that. That's when Marvel's post credits scenes were at their best
Could they put Reeves' Batman into the DCU? Yes. Should they? No
Like you, said IF it happened I'd have go w/ it but
Because they've said that DC Studios will be doing else-worlds stories/films the best thing to do is leave Reeves' Bat-verse to be its own thing. Everything doesn't have to be connected like the MCU.
on the one hand, i think the contrast between Corenswet's Superman and Pattinson's Batman really highlight each other by virtue of hiw different and well characterized they are, but on the other hand, the Reeves universe may be a bit to grounded and realistic to explore the fantastical side of Batman, not to mention I can't really see that Batman working well with the Justice League or the extended Batfamily. A new Batman may be necessary, and their approach being diametrically opposite may be the way both can coexist without confusing everyone.
Thanks for the great video!! No words can explain not just mine, but everyone's excitement for this film!
While I think the DCU Batman should be played by a different actor than Pattinson, his Batman and Corenswet's Superman definitely looks like they go to the same tailor. 😏
4:15 I LOVE A BIT OF EVERYTHING!!
My take on merging the Reeves universe with the DCU:
Do people really want The Batman to be littered with retcons?
I love where Reeves is taking his universe; please don’t do this. I want him to conclude his trilogy as he intended AND I want to see a fantastical Bat-Family in the DCU. Make them different enough and no one will end up confused.
All these years later, Alan Moore's Watchmen continues to have changed the public perception of superheroes... as vigilantes.
Has anyone been attached to the Authority project yet? If not, I think that could very well be James Gunn's next project. That seems to be the type of thing he specializes in.
I prefer they just keep it separate cause fans would be mad if Gunn forced Reeves to put his Batman in the DCU. Plus it's a great chance for another actor to put their stamp on an iconic character.
Does Robert Pattinson even want to join the DCU? Like has he been asked about it in interviews?
I feel like fans are running away with the assumption that he’d do it just cuz he’s playing Batman.
Its still ridiculous that people think robert pattinson batman will be the dcu batman. When both gunn and reeves already stated its not. And probably dont want to remind them again seeing as how absurd people are getting.
Lot of people don't watch anything beside trailers so they don't know. I don't blame them but there are lot of youtubers spreading these misinformation as well.
I saw comments saying I will give Superman:Legacy movie a chance even though there is no "legacy" part anymore anywhere in the trailer or promotional material
At 25:25 that’s not the flash, it’s booster gold. The flash is further in the back in red
it’s already confirmed that it’s wally west
You might have watched this year's "The Substance". I can see Clayface going in a similar direction, leaning into body horror connected to beauty standards
I think it's funny how some fans went from complaining about Bat-bargo druring the Nolan's batman trilogy, to now wanting to force an else world trilogy into the DCU
If it's the 2003 lineup than Dick needs to be Robin in the film not Nightwing, they can't skip his time as Robin.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New year boba
Boba you are right. Reeves Batman should remain untouched by anyone other than Reeves. I wish all this noise would go away. I dislike so much of the fan culture around comic book movies, it’s so pathetic. (Except you, you’re very logical and reasoned)
I just hope that at some point, Matt Reeves can write a World's Finest Comic or something so we could get a taste of what it'd be like to see a Reeves Batman crossover with a Superman.
Not even saying it has to be Pattinson Batman, Just *A* Reeves Batman.
I REALLY need to hear some positive movement on Booster Gold!!!
This could be a flash back movie let’s not forget that possibility. We don’t know much about the DCU timeline and if it will follow a strict linear timeline.
The hammer is 100% Lexx and his war suit before it gets a paint job. He’s funding and creating conflicts to make Superman look bad. It’s a literal metaphor for the real world.
James Gunn has already said we will get Elseworld stories. He mentioned maybe doing a Red Son movie. If it did happen id assume David would play Superman in that. So... Why can't Pattinson be both Batmans for DCU and Reeves Universe? Let the Reeves trilogy finish. Let Batman then be introduced as an older Batman with a bat family in the DCU.
All super heroes should be cleaning up the places they fight with their super powers after the damage is done. Flash and Superman getting helped out by whoever will always suffice.
Flash was the reason why I got into the DC universe.
So I am really excited about the future of flash in dcu.
I'm glad dead man is finally getting some recognition he is such a cool character
I somehow doubt that Pattinson’s Batman could fall from orbit in nothing but the batsuit, while putting his trunks over his mouth
AND I WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN ON SCREEN
Pattionson please be in dcu man they can cook the stories but let mat revves be the incharge of the batman
The mystery guy looks kind of like that annihilator from the hawk and dove episode of Justice league where there is a war and one side creates a robot to fight the other side
so happy they are going to do another season of creature commandos, i thought gunn would only do one season
Might be an unpopular opinion, but i want pattinson's batman to be in DCU
I can easily imagine david & rob being besties as superman & batman
Maybe Starfire might take the leadership role. Since Dick has moved on from being Robin and is now Nightwing? Similar like the animated universe film where Damien Wayne and Jaime Reyes bunt heads at first.
With the huge success of The Penguin - which will surely get even more successful after awards season - it makes even less sense that The Batman Part II would change universes or get cancelled and Pattinson scooped up for the Brave and the Bold. After getting established in the first movie and strongly backed up with The Penguin, we'll see even more things set in the Batman crime saga in the coming years.
This is such a weird persistent rumor that makes no sense and I don't get why it keeps coming up. It is far less confusing to say there are two different Batmen in two different universes than to have one Batman change universes and we have to pretend it was always that way or just ignore the fact that the first Batman movie exists.
By all accounts, Pattinson is a deeply weird person and it seems like he is drawn to weird roles. And his Batman is a weirdo! I don't think he would want to vanilla it up with a more traditional portrayal of Bruce.
You had me at Krypto.
I don't think The Batman should join the DCU, but I would like to point out that that batman is year 2, so 27, while by the time part 2 release Pattison will be 40, while people are saying that whoever should be DCU batman, a batman on his 4th Robin, at least year 10, should be under 40.
I wish they hadn't taken such extreme when introducing Kyle Raynor as green lantern.... Because people took out their frustration with how they did that on poor Kyle. Early Kyle was by day my personal favorite Green Pattern. of they had the him more gracefully.... He probably would be pretty popular. Would have been a great young green lantern!
In my opinion, the only way to have Pattinson in the DCU (Without cancelling The Brave & The Bold), would be a sort of 'Daredevil: Born Again' situation, with his Batman returning to the screen many years after the events of Reeves' trilogy in-universe. With the trilogy being considered his early years, and we now see him years later in TB&TB after he lives through the Batfamily and such.
If not, you just cancel TB&TB and just keep going with the Reevesverse now in the DCU.
But I do think it would be best to cast a new actor, and I find that people that say it doesn't make sense, or would be too confusing to have two Batmen are exaggerating a bit. I don't think the general audience would dislike that or anything, as I believe the two would be quite different in terms of aesthetic and storyline.
With that said, I do believe that we won't ever get a better actor to play Batman than Robert Pattinson, I really see him as the best actor of his generation and the most perfect casting for the role.
But still, there's a few I could see put on the cowl in the foreseeable future, my personal favourites for the DCU right now are Brandon Sklenar and Winston Duke!
The batman is set in the present time, the dates have been shown in many frames throughout the movie and they cannot be changed now after the movie has released, riddler was posting videos on tiktok too so that can’t be ancient times
@rjk537 I know that, which is why it wouldn't work to have Pattinson in TB&TB unless you do some tweaking/retconning of the timeline, which I personally wouldn't really care about but I do think it could be a bit messy.
jace norman would be a fantastic flash whether wally or barry.
Regarding Wally West and the Teen Titans rumors, i believe Booster is the one on the Wonder Woman shot. Kind of a stretch but i think Wally is in the Batman shot. There is someone behind him that has, what i think looks like Flash's belt and its colored red.
Given that it looks like John Stewart will be our main DCU Green Lantern, I have a feeling Wally might be our main DCU Flash. If that ends up being the case and RPK's scoop about the Teen Titans movie turns out to be true, that movie may be set in the past. In my opinion, that would be cool because Teen Titans and Justice League animated are good blue prints to follow.
On a side note, if we do get a Teen Titans roster similar to the cartoons, that means Dynamic Duo is most likely Elseworlds which has been my guess hehehe
Just wanted to share my theories 😂 As always, thanks for the awesome content, Boba!
42:46 all they have to do is… make Batman 1 & 2, and potentially even Batman 3, be prequels to the DCU.
Preferably, 1&2 only with Batman 3 happening at the same point where Superman takes his first flight.
They could also pull off Dick Grayson as Robin within the Teen Titans if this movie is established as a prequel
So funny that Gunn admited Adam Warlock was a mistake lol
I think there may be a plotline in the story where maybe Superman is getting some pushback from both sides so to speak. maybe its a situation where people are mad at him for basically "bringing the Boravia war to metropolis" putting more people in danger and maybe also from the superhero community side who are mostly corporate superheroes saying "we aren't supposed to get involved with stuff like that only what wer're assigned" essentially and Guy saying the same thing acting under a mix of that and Green Lantern code (not sure entirely if that'd apply but I imagine a lot of lanterns that are sanctioned to work in a sector can't interfere with interplanetary struggles like Sinestro did) and maybe it's gonna culminate in a thing where Superman reminds everyone they're heroes for the people first. I'm pretty sure this is what you're saying with the reverse kingom come but I wanted to get my thoughts out.
these people some times they see matt reeve's choice on having his batman being an elseworld is a threat on what they want
I’m so hyped for this movie 😁