im loving it so far LOL ive watched some ludwig videos before especially with his mario party stuff so ive seen how good he can be with games once he sinks enough time into them, and now hes starting to really get into league? im seated and strapped in for the wild ride, first caedrel now poly, we are absolutely feasting 🙏
@@MackOP3 The meme is "Nah, I'd Win" because the person who says it loses...badly....Changing it to "Yes, I'd Lose"....defeats the whole point of the meme.
Really, his biggest problem right now is he doesn't back when he needs to and he plays reactively instead of proactively. I really wish I could just talk to the guy.
@@Rembones dont ever type the reactive proactive shit again. the game doesnt function that way. sometimes, you have to make the plays, sometimes you have to react to the enemies plays.
Lud has smash mentality when it comes to League, he thinks he can skill diff every fight but sometimes with item diff there's just no shot and he really can't apply that, just goes full aggro
I swear its like we are watching a baby ride a bike. I feel most League players just cant fathom how long we have collectively been playing this game and we look at him and we are like bro just do this just do that and he is all like WTF u mean bro.
As someone who wants to get better, I love this content. While I am also enjoying Ludwig doing goofy stuff, Poly is bringing a more personal down to earth coaching style that I really appreciate. Even from this I have learned some thing that I know I mess up on when I play, so thank you Poly. I’d love to see more.
I love your coaching vids, you are so calm and happy when reviewing those game, i felt like i am being roasted while you talk about the mistakes, but in a good way, love the tone when you talk about them :D
This was a really good video, I appreciate the perspective and advice on how to properly view a replay for optimal learning. Also, that tip about vision is really good to know!
the problem with Ludwig other than game knowledge and being a beginner is that he wastes SO MUCH TIME. like being slightly inefficient is fine but Ludwig wastes so much time with his pathing, jungling(been improved), so much overthinking to do "something" that is just outright nah. For a first time moba player though, he is improving pretty nicely.
10:27 Can you clarify for me? I get that it's not always a good idea to blindly follow your teammates because especially in low elo, their game knowledge and decision making is unreliable. But I remember in another video, you were 2v2 bot lane as Lux and you decided to engage/play aggressively, which conflicted with what your adc wanted to/was prepared to do and as a result you died. After the fact, you said that while theoretically your play was correct, in reality because your adc wasn't on the same page, it was wrong and the blame was on you. So is this just a difference in how games play out at different elos? Should I be committing to plays called by teammates that I don't have 100% faith in?
It's more of an elo thing in this scenario, since I don't think it's a good idea to 100% trust the pings of a bronze teammate without even considering if the play is good or not. In the case of the Lux 2v2 vid, as long as your teammate's play has a good enough possibility of it succeeding, then I can just accept it and change up my way of thinking. For example if I consider my plan A as 90% objectively correct and my teammate's plan B as 70% correct, there is enough leeway to just accept that there could have been a miscommunication. But if I consider my plan A to be 90% correct and my teammate's plan B as 10% correct, then I should honestly just ignore the call since the chance of the play working out is so low that it's actually inting if I decide to go along with it. It all comes down to how fast you can recognize this since different factors can constantly change what the "correct" play is in every scenario, but this requires making decisions for yourself and seeing if your thought process matches with what your teammate is also thinking, since if everyone is not on the same page then a 90% correct play can go down instantly, making it no longer the best option. I think that you should only commit to plays called by your teammates as long as you can see some chance of it working out if everyone is on the same page, but you can't just blindly go in without even considering that it could be bad, which is the bad habit I'm hoping Ludwig can avoid because more often than not if a play doesn't end up working out, people tend to blame the player for the bad call instead of the call itself, which is fundamentally a bad way to improve at the game
@@Polypuffwhen I played for local tournaments my coach told me one thing about decisions like this. “Even if the decision is bad, if everyone committed to the decision it’s going to work out.” I personally spin it more like, even if the decision isn’t optimal you can still make it come out ontop of you can spin it to be, maybe you are able to turn the tides or coinflip the fight well enough to make it beneficial, but that’s obviously based on your own ability. The decision behind it though is to commit to a play even if it isn’t the most optimal play, while also being able to avoid guaranteed bad plays.
@@MyNameIsZelo this by itself is generally true yes, but only really counts below a specific elo, also its kinda different for comp, since you are all on it together its best to just do something together even if its incorrect play and learn from it as a team
Nah bro, I swear Ludwig is something else. I'm REALLY bad at the game alright, and even I was like "wtf is he doing" for half the time. I really believe he can get to plat but he'll have to do some improvement gameplay wise before 💀
I think the vision cone drake was genuinely just something he didn't think through. You mentioned that it could've been that he didn't see what the cone revealed but it makes a sound whenever something is discovered as well as a giant circle animation on the map.
I'd say if you're only using QWER spells then pretty good, if you want to maximize the efficiency of the champ with clone / passive shenanigans then definitely not
Hello puff, I’ve been watching your content for a while, and I’m thinking about getting into the more competitive/ranked scene for league, I want to play Kindred in jungle, but I’m a bit nervous with the expectations and execution of being a jungler, on top of working to get my marks. Do you have any advice? (Btw, I’m basically brand new, and currently unranked, but I want to get good enough to actually support my team as kindred)
Whenever you're doing something new in general, try to have as little expectations as possible and go into it with a blank slate, especially if it's causing you to get nervous; Sometimes you just need to play a lot of games to learn a champion so as long as you're going into every game wanting to learn from your mistakes then you'll improve in no time
Idk if Lud thought this but as a new player I have a habit of going to the heal flower (don’t even know what it’s called that’s how new I am) so I no lie thought of going to the heal because the first thing I’m thinking when I’m going to die is “why not gamble the heal flower. It’s only worked a few times but fuck it lol
Well it depends, if you and your enemy are both low hp, getting the plant will probably save you. But if your enemy is close and has high hp, getting that plant is almost guaranteed to kill you because of the slow (obviously doesn't apply to the chem drake's map).
personally, I cannot get out of using locked cam, or at least a camera that stays somewhat around me. My solution to that, USE SEMI LOCKED CAM. It provides more wiggle room for looking around, and you should also have a keybind to make it easy to unlock camera. It's pretty much the opposite of what most people do, unlocked camera with holding space to center. I like it the other way though, and I think it would help Ludwig if he really can't get out of the locked camera habit.
what i used to do is change my keybinds so that spacebar is the toggle between locked and unlocked cam. i main champs that have a lot of sniping capabilities (lux, jhin) so what i did was i played in locked cam and only unlocked to use those long range spells as well as seeing ahead of me. i played like that for about a year until i decided to finally have fully unlocked cam, and the previous semi locked cam helped in the transition! even when semi locked cam is very useful and better than fully locked, fully unlocked cam is a huge game changer since you get more aware of your surroundings by constantly having to move your cam manually, which in turn helps you react better to ganks and skirmishes and stuff. hopefully you can eventually get to unlock your cam permanently but honestly if it isnt for you, keep doing your own thing. ive heard of some people getting to diamond with straight up locked cam which is crazy to me but what do i know lol. this is just my two cents and my own experience :0
@@mcsy98 I pretty much have my camera unlocked unless I’m fighting. I tend to lose where I am in fights, which is why I like semi locked. It’s not like a tiny peephole like completely locked, but it’s locked enough so that I don’t walk face first into a nautilus. And I do agree, fully unlocking the camera is the best, but for moments when you’re not looking around, being locked is fine.
honestly, defending lud here, when the game came out, this is the expected level of gameplay for bronze, lud is suppose to be in iron in this patch, he came out of iron not knowing any of the basic
I can understand for beginners its one less thing to manage, but choosing to lock your camera is just choosing to tunnel vision and allow the blind spots to persist. Imagine driving and choosing to not turn your head... 😂
variety streamer, youtuber, content creator. he dabbles in a lot of different games and stuff as well as commentary and partakes in goofy stuff with his friends, was particularly good with super smash bros as like a former pro player or something. rest assured hes a gamer he played league a little bit when he was invited to some league tourny with tyler1, mrbeast, ninja, etc like 2 years ago, but i think around 2 months ago he won an auction for a 1 hour coaching session with caedrel for a hefty price. he started playing league for real until he gets high enough rank before the coaching starts but caedrel has been reacting to his gameplay anyway (its funny but painful) and now polypuff is now also on the ludwig league content train. ok that was the lore drop
yo guys, I know there is a word for the people of the USA, and is not american, because American is for everybody from the continent, but I don't, heeeeelp, go polly my boy, found the old corean brocoli
whats crazy is that unlocked cam feels weird at first but once you make the switch and start playing fully unlocked, locked cam and holding space becomes the one that feels weird. its just a matter of what youre used to, so if you start playing unlocked or at least semi locked (toggle between locked and unlocked, change keybind to space so its easier) you can eventually get the feel for unlocked cam. no need to dive straight away into fully unlocked cam
Even polypuff is getting in on the ludwig content train XD
There’s a LOT of room for growth and learning, cavernous some might say.
@@ElyskeTheDonut you could tell ludwig to not stand under towers and it'd probably still be useful info
im loving it so far LOL ive watched some ludwig videos before especially with his mario party stuff so ive seen how good he can be with games once he sinks enough time into them, and now hes starting to really get into league? im seated and strapped in for the wild ride, first caedrel now poly, we are absolutely feasting 🙏
I think Poly is a ludbud, i remember watching him in chat during the subathon, on some melee content
@@terlinator I mean he did die under tower against literally no one so you're not wrong
Looking at this, i can finally proud of myself for knowing not to force a fight i cant win. Ludwig just went "Nah, i'd win"
Polypuff: But would you lose?
Ludwig: Yes, I'd lose
@@MackOP3 The meme is "Nah, I'd Win" because the person who says it loses...badly....Changing it to "Yes, I'd Lose"....defeats the whole point of the meme.
I've seen a few reactions and "coaching" based on his games, and this is by far the one he needs to see the most.
Really, his biggest problem right now is he doesn't back when he needs to and he plays reactively instead of proactively. I really wish I could just talk to the guy.
@@Rembones dont ever type the reactive proactive shit again. the game doesnt function that way. sometimes, you have to make the plays, sometimes you have to react to the enemies plays.
Lud has smash mentality when it comes to League, he thinks he can skill diff every fight but sometimes with item diff there's just no shot and he really can't apply that, just goes full aggro
Hopefully Ludwig sees this, literally based coaching
i remember watching the stream… and him forgetting smite exists was so painful 😭
I've watched a couple games. He got that ARAM brain. He wants to fight all the time lol
I swear its like we are watching a baby ride a bike. I feel most League players just cant fathom how long we have collectively been playing this game and we look at him and we are like bro just do this just do that and he is all like WTF u mean bro.
Ludwig giving all of League RUclips a generous gift of delicious content, bless him
I really like the vod reviews! I learn a lot from watching you play in general but this is like so helpful lol
10:53
Best advice ever
Ludwig x Poly collab is insane
As someone who wants to get better, I love this content. While I am also enjoying Ludwig doing goofy stuff, Poly is bringing a more personal down to earth coaching style that I really appreciate. Even from this I have learned some thing that I know I mess up on when I play, so thank you Poly. I’d love to see more.
I love your coaching vids, you are so calm and happy when reviewing those game, i felt like i am being roasted while you talk about the mistakes, but in a good way, love the tone when you talk about them :D
This was a really good video, I appreciate the perspective and advice on how to properly view a replay for optimal learning. Also, that tip about vision is really good to know!
This makes me nostalgic haha how bout you poly its like seeing me play for the first time haha
the problem with Ludwig other than game knowledge and being a beginner is that he wastes SO MUCH TIME. like being slightly inefficient is fine but Ludwig wastes so much time with his pathing, jungling(been improved), so much overthinking to do "something" that is just outright nah. For a first time moba player though, he is improving pretty nicely.
Ludwig's been playing League of L's this year 😔
1:00 use this in the reverse context for invis champs to better understand the chaos those abilities can cause
Please do more this was hilarious (and lud rly needs it lol)
ongod Ludwig makes me feel like Faker💀💀
10:27 Can you clarify for me? I get that it's not always a good idea to blindly follow your teammates because especially in low elo, their game knowledge and decision making is unreliable. But I remember in another video, you were 2v2 bot lane as Lux and you decided to engage/play aggressively, which conflicted with what your adc wanted to/was prepared to do and as a result you died. After the fact, you said that while theoretically your play was correct, in reality because your adc wasn't on the same page, it was wrong and the blame was on you. So is this just a difference in how games play out at different elos? Should I be committing to plays called by teammates that I don't have 100% faith in?
It's more of an elo thing in this scenario, since I don't think it's a good idea to 100% trust the pings of a bronze teammate without even considering if the play is good or not.
In the case of the Lux 2v2 vid, as long as your teammate's play has a good enough possibility of it succeeding, then I can just accept it and change up my way of thinking. For example if I consider my plan A as 90% objectively correct and my teammate's plan B as 70% correct, there is enough leeway to just accept that there could have been a miscommunication. But if I consider my plan A to be 90% correct and my teammate's plan B as 10% correct, then I should honestly just ignore the call since the chance of the play working out is so low that it's actually inting if I decide to go along with it.
It all comes down to how fast you can recognize this since different factors can constantly change what the "correct" play is in every scenario, but this requires making decisions for yourself and seeing if your thought process matches with what your teammate is also thinking, since if everyone is not on the same page then a 90% correct play can go down instantly, making it no longer the best option.
I think that you should only commit to plays called by your teammates as long as you can see some chance of it working out if everyone is on the same page, but you can't just blindly go in without even considering that it could be bad, which is the bad habit I'm hoping Ludwig can avoid because more often than not if a play doesn't end up working out, people tend to blame the player for the bad call instead of the call itself, which is fundamentally a bad way to improve at the game
@@Polypuffwhen I played for local tournaments my coach told me one thing about decisions like this.
“Even if the decision is bad, if everyone committed to the decision it’s going to work out.”
I personally spin it more like, even if the decision isn’t optimal you can still make it come out ontop of you can spin it to be, maybe you are able to turn the tides or coinflip the fight well enough to make it beneficial, but that’s obviously based on your own ability. The decision behind it though is to commit to a play even if it isn’t the most optimal play, while also being able to avoid guaranteed bad plays.
@@MyNameIsZelo this by itself is generally true yes, but only really counts below a specific elo, also its kinda different for comp, since you are all on it together its best to just do something together even if its incorrect play and learn from it as a team
I am genuinly sad, that black threw their advantage.
Nah bro, I swear Ludwig is something else. I'm REALLY bad at the game alright, and even I was like "wtf is he doing" for half the time. I really believe he can get to plat but he'll have to do some improvement gameplay wise before 💀
13:54 I see what you're doing here :D
I think the vision cone drake was genuinely just something he didn't think through. You mentioned that it could've been that he didn't see what the cone revealed but it makes a sound whenever something is discovered as well as a giant circle animation on the map.
My biggest takeaway from this is Ludwig definitely should have got a blue trinket
In the intro you can hear Polypuff try to ping ludwig back
bold of you to assume he can take advice lol
now put him on the bard support and see what he can do
hey polypuff! W vid as always. also, is neeko a good champ for newer players?
I'd say if you're only using QWER spells then pretty good, if you want to maximize the efficiency of the champ with clone / passive shenanigans then definitely not
if ludwig plays with his friends he will easily get carried to plat, if solo it will take him at least a year
BRO I WAS DRINKING AND THAT CAEDREL COMMENT MADE ME SPIT TAKE ON MY WHOLE ASS SET UP 😭😭😭😭
Hello puff, I’ve been watching your content for a while, and I’m thinking about getting into the more competitive/ranked scene for league, I want to play Kindred in jungle, but I’m a bit nervous with the expectations and execution of being a jungler, on top of working to get my marks.
Do you have any advice?
(Btw, I’m basically brand new, and currently unranked, but I want to get good enough to actually support my team as kindred)
Whenever you're doing something new in general, try to have as little expectations as possible and go into it with a blank slate, especially if it's causing you to get nervous; Sometimes you just need to play a lot of games to learn a champion so as long as you're going into every game wanting to learn from your mistakes then you'll improve in no time
@@Polypuffthank you for the advice, and I’ll let you know how it goes! c:
Yoo poly, whats that tool for that pen? I saw Sally using it also, and it looks nice and clean
thanks
Epicpen!
Love the intro, im glad youre not reviewing me though 😂
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I think the last int was so bad that poly couldn’t watch any more 😂
hope ludwig watches this, poly deserves more views :3c
Idk if Lud thought this but as a new player I have a habit of going to the heal flower (don’t even know what it’s called that’s how new I am) so I no lie thought of going to the heal because the first thing I’m thinking when I’m going to die is “why not gamble the heal flower. It’s only worked a few times but fuck it lol
Well it depends, if you and your enemy are both low hp, getting the plant will probably save you. But if your enemy is close and has high hp, getting that plant is almost guaranteed to kill you because of the slow (obviously doesn't apply to the chem drake's map).
im laughing ang giggling, like i dont do any of his mistake
it’s a good day bcs NEW POLY VID and im earlyyyy
Hey Poly, how much does a vod review cost?
It's free but I just do vod reviews randomly on stream sometimes so just gonna have to be during those times
Oh well thats unlucky. Anyways looking forward for more content like this
personally, I cannot get out of using locked cam, or at least a camera that stays somewhat around me. My solution to that, USE SEMI LOCKED CAM. It provides more wiggle room for looking around, and you should also have a keybind to make it easy to unlock camera. It's pretty much the opposite of what most people do, unlocked camera with holding space to center. I like it the other way though, and I think it would help Ludwig if he really can't get out of the locked camera habit.
what i used to do is change my keybinds so that spacebar is the toggle between locked and unlocked cam. i main champs that have a lot of sniping capabilities (lux, jhin) so what i did was i played in locked cam and only unlocked to use those long range spells as well as seeing ahead of me. i played like that for about a year until i decided to finally have fully unlocked cam, and the previous semi locked cam helped in the transition!
even when semi locked cam is very useful and better than fully locked, fully unlocked cam is a huge game changer since you get more aware of your surroundings by constantly having to move your cam manually, which in turn helps you react better to ganks and skirmishes and stuff. hopefully you can eventually get to unlock your cam permanently but honestly if it isnt for you, keep doing your own thing. ive heard of some people getting to diamond with straight up locked cam which is crazy to me but what do i know lol. this is just my two cents and my own experience :0
@@mcsy98 I pretty much have my camera unlocked unless I’m fighting. I tend to lose where I am in fights, which is why I like semi locked. It’s not like a tiny peephole like completely locked, but it’s locked enough so that I don’t walk face first into a nautilus. And I do agree, fully unlocking the camera is the best, but for moments when you’re not looking around, being locked is fine.
does poly think that lock cam players just dont look at the minimap?
you'd make a good parent
what is the program the you use to draw arrows ?
epicpen?
THANKS BROO
how do you zoom out that much?
yay video :D
honestly, defending lud here, when the game came out, this is the expected level of gameplay for bronze, lud is suppose to be in iron in this patch, he came out of iron not knowing any of the basic
overthinking makes one quit league tbb
I can understand for beginners its one less thing to manage, but choosing to lock your camera is just choosing to tunnel vision and allow the blind spots to persist. Imagine driving and choosing to not turn your head... 😂
I am usually locked, may toggle it every now and then but I usually click on my map
why do u sound so much like viper
Who is Ludwig?
seconded, I first heard of him yesterday somewhere else and now he's in a polypuff video??
@@rcbinchicken RUclipsr
variety streamer, youtuber, content creator. he dabbles in a lot of different games and stuff as well as commentary and partakes in goofy stuff with his friends, was particularly good with super smash bros as like a former pro player or something. rest assured hes a gamer
he played league a little bit when he was invited to some league tourny with tyler1, mrbeast, ninja, etc like 2 years ago, but i think around 2 months ago he won an auction for a 1 hour coaching session with caedrel for a hefty price. he started playing league for real until he gets high enough rank before the coaching starts but caedrel has been reacting to his gameplay anyway (its funny but painful) and now polypuff is now also on the ludwig league content train. ok that was the lore drop
@@mcsy98 Thanks for clarifying!
@@mcsy98 ty
yo guys, I know there is a word for the people of the USA, and is not american, because American is for everybody from the continent, but I don't, heeeeelp, go polly my boy, found the old corean brocoli
weirdly enough qtcinderella has better train of thought than him.. qt deserves gold.
why would u think thats weird!
After probably 5 years of playing this game I still can't play with unlocked cam it feels too weird and it's hard to manage aswell
you can just hold space while fighting
whats crazy is that unlocked cam feels weird at first but once you make the switch and start playing fully unlocked, locked cam and holding space becomes the one that feels weird. its just a matter of what youre used to, so if you start playing unlocked or at least semi locked (toggle between locked and unlocked, change keybind to space so its easier) you can eventually get the feel for unlocked cam. no need to dive straight away into fully unlocked cam
No shot this is bronze 3 😭 my iron lobbies are better than thjs
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