We have a bunch of these on our rental properties. Some of the locks are almost 50 years old. They are so well made they will virtually never break. Every 10 years ago we take it apart and lubricate the guts. We just swap rim cylinders in between tenants
Thanks Jason! Once again, I always appreciate how you cover the basics. SOOOO helpful for newbie locksmiths trying to learn and do a good job! Thanks for another great video!
We still have Segal 667 jimmy-proof deadbolts (and their clones) all over the place here (I personally had one antique one that I moved from apartment to apartment with me for over 20 years) because so many older buildings had most of their doors already prepped for them and many newer buildings here still use frames and doors that can easily be drilled to fit them.
Those Taylor rim cylinders with plastic plugs...Taylor flooded the market back in the 60's & 70's with those garage door locks. Walking by any house with a garage had those cylinders. The plug is in two sections, which snaps together. Pretty nifty. Heating the key up with a torch prevented removal of key. I still have a very old Taylor Lock book. When Ideal Security came out with their Jimmy-Proof units, I would install on Hollow-Core doors, as the outside assembly thru-bolted with the inside unit. They worked great for Hollow-Core installs. I never installed those units with the Ideal Rim Cylinder. I would usually use a Sargent Keso Rim Cylinder. Made for a great sale. Word-of-Mouth and I had more customers for the Ideal locks. Not sure why they went away. They were one of the best Jimmy-Proof units back then.
At one lock shop I worked at we use to drill the hole larger where the screws go on the Yale Rim locks because they fit on the Himco gates that was around the neighborhood.
Growing up we had the Yale with a spring latch, and locked myself out several times. But i knew we kept a dinner knife in the garden which worked great to push the spring latch in. I have never seen a plastic core like that Taylor.
Awesome The "backset" is a problem when changing springlatch to a deadbolt or to a different manufacturer. Is there no standard backseat? I have an old Yale springlatch that can be locked to a deadbolt position from the outside with the key which is awesome
can you open a rim lock which is locked inside without a key, funny thing is my mom who is 82 accidentally locked herself in her room and we had a hard time opening the door coz she fell and injured herself.... thankfully she was able to push down the button and we were able to open the door after an hour.... but the question remains can we open a locked rim lock? thanks so much
Funny how I learned that the inventor of the Jimmy proof lock was a New York City police officer. I retired from the NYPD a few years ago and one of the side businesses you were prohibited from opening was a locksmith business.
How Awesome to see this and perfect timing too. Because a house that Im doing the rewiring job on, has the Big Brown YALE jimmy proof on it and was wondering about it, and if they could be rekeyed? And like GI JOE says, Knowing Is Half of The Battle.
The big brown Yale jimmy proof deadbolts can be rekeyed although it requires disassembling almost the entire lock if it is a double cylinder model. If it is a single cylinder model just replace the outside rim cylinder.
Personally in my area I see a lot of the Jimmy proof style in a lot of commercial and retail applications it's the double cylinder variant But they use them a lot on like the accordion style security gates and things In my years of research I've never actually found them but looks to me that they support a standard mortise lock style configuration that'll take like a best mortise or something and give you IC core and things like that is it possible that the installer is just manually modified it
We have a bunch of these on our rental properties. Some of the locks are almost 50 years old. They are so well made they will virtually never break. Every 10 years ago we take it apart and lubricate the guts. We just swap rim cylinders in between tenants
Great video !!!! some dead bolts are deader than others!
have a great day
Thanks Jason! Once again, I always appreciate how you cover the basics. SOOOO helpful for newbie locksmiths trying to learn and do a good job! Thanks for another great video!
We still have Segal 667 jimmy-proof deadbolts (and their clones) all over the place here (I personally had one antique one that I moved from apartment to apartment with me for over 20 years) because so many older buildings had most of their doors already prepped for them and many newer buildings here still use frames and doors that can easily be drilled to fit them.
I have never seen that auto locking jimmy proof before. Thanks for sharing.
The auto-locking jimmy-proof designs largely peaked by the 1940s and quietly were removed from catalogs over the following years.
I got a similar Jimmy proof lockwood deadbolt. Double cylinder and V2 Bilocks. Nice to see what stuff what you got up there.👍😎🇦🇺
Those Taylor rim cylinders with plastic plugs...Taylor flooded the market back in the 60's & 70's with those garage door locks. Walking by any house with a garage had those cylinders.
The plug is in two sections, which snaps together. Pretty nifty. Heating the key up with a torch prevented removal of key. I still have a very old Taylor Lock book.
When Ideal Security came out with their Jimmy-Proof units, I would install on Hollow-Core doors, as the outside assembly thru-bolted with the inside unit. They worked great for Hollow-Core installs. I never installed those units with the Ideal Rim Cylinder. I would usually use a Sargent Keso Rim Cylinder. Made for a great sale. Word-of-Mouth and I had more customers for the Ideal locks. Not sure why they went away. They were one of the best Jimmy-Proof units back then.
shhhh! Don’t tell anyone about the two piece plug! Over here ruining my secret surprise! ;)
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing your stash with us. 🤓👍
At one lock shop I worked at we use to drill the hole larger where the screws go on the Yale Rim locks because they fit on the Himco gates that was around the neighborhood.
Growing up we had the Yale with a spring latch, and locked myself out several times. But i knew we kept a dinner knife in the garden which worked great to push the spring latch in. I have never seen a plastic core like that Taylor.
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Awesome The "backset" is a problem when changing springlatch to a deadbolt or to a different manufacturer. Is there no standard backseat? I have an old Yale springlatch that can be locked to a deadbolt position from the outside with the key which is awesome
Fantastic video .
Jason those Baldwin entrance rimlocks lock/unlock with a rim cylinder on the outside and a "bit key" on the inside?
can you open a rim lock which is locked inside without a key, funny thing is my mom who is 82 accidentally locked herself in her room and we had a hard time opening the door coz she fell and injured herself.... thankfully she was able to push down the button and we were able to open the door after an hour.... but the question remains can we open a locked rim lock? thanks so much
Funny how I learned that the inventor of the Jimmy proof lock was a New York City police officer. I retired from the NYPD a few years ago and one of the side businesses you were prohibited from opening was a locksmith business.
How Awesome to see this and perfect timing too. Because a house that Im doing the rewiring job on, has the Big Brown YALE jimmy proof on it and was wondering about it, and if they could be rekeyed? And like GI JOE says, Knowing Is Half of The Battle.
The big brown Yale jimmy proof deadbolts can be rekeyed although it requires disassembling almost the entire lock if it is a double cylinder model. If it is a single cylinder model just replace the outside rim cylinder.
Smartkey Cylinder would be nice to be able to change key lock quickly.
Are all rim cylinders the same length to fit certain standards or does each company make there own length.
I feel nowadays its hard to get a hold of a good quality one! 😐
I have a balwin lock and cannot get it off the door to rekey even though I have removed all the visible screws.
I have a multi lock jimmy proof and one of my wires in the inside broke in 2 do you know were i can buy at
Personally in my area I see a lot of the Jimmy proof style in a lot of commercial and retail applications it's the double cylinder variant
But they use them a lot on like the accordion style security gates and things
In my years of research I've never actually found them but looks to me that they support a standard mortise lock style configuration that'll take like a best mortise or something and give you IC core and things like that is it possible that the installer is just manually modified it
Very good information
we stock and sell the yale and the ilco, someone came in today with a 'franklin' brand which was just a drop smaller than the yale
Is there a way to repair or replace the interior knob?
@@theplanelife4097 almost always, no
Oh how I hated those Taylor plastic core cylinders.
how do i remove the housing on an idea security jimmy proof double cylinder super guard lock
did you figure it out? I also have one that I'm trying to open up.
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Lots of garage doors have those plastic core cylinders in them around here. Total garbage.
corrosion welded shut too probably!
@@selock 👍
@SE Lock and Key just sent you an email on this this a photo.
Who's Jimmy?.. a crook? Hence, Jimmy proof lock. Lol🤔
that DAAAAAANNNNGGGG Jimmy
@@selock 😄👍
Plastic core locks 🙈