Zach Hyman: NHL’s most underrated player or just lucky to play with McDavid?
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- Zach Hyman is fresh off his fourth hat trick of the season against Washington. He's currently on pace for 59 goals on the season. Is this a product of Hyman being underrated? Or is this just a lucky circumstance for Hyman to be playing with Connor McDavid? 7-Elevent That's Hockey host Gino Reda dives in.
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From all Oilers fans; Thank you Kyle Dubas!
Don't forget jack campbell too 😂
@@marklee7243we all want Jack to turn it around
We miss him in Toronto.
Trust me, none of us wanted him to leave
@@marklee7243NOW that's the wisdom of Job on display right there. Gotta take whatever comes your way & roll with it.
@@marklee7243NOW that's the wisdom of Job on display right there. Gotta take whatever comes your way & roll with it.
My thoughts on it are that Hyman saw the opportunity to play his best career years with a generational talent and has taken full advantage by training his ass off to become the best version of himself. If it wasn't for Hyman bringing his game to the next level, he'd be one of a long chain of wingers that can do okay but don't quite have the skills to finish what McD sets up for them consistently. If just going to the front of the net was easy, everyone who did it would be scoring 40+
Zach Hyman is the kinda player you would want on any team. He may not wear the “C” but make no mistake, he is a leader on this team and shows it both on and off the ice. The fact that his production has been this great is the cherry on top. Even when his numbers were more “human” he was still getting big goals at the right moments. And you can tell he’s well liked by everyone
Hyman is a beauty. Regardless what sweater he wears, I've always been a huge fan of this guy's grit, heart, and determination, and I always will be. He seems like a very likeable guy too, with a grounded personality. He was my favourite Leaf for the years he was there, and he's easily tied for my favourite Oiler.
If he continues to play with the heart he does, regardless if his production falls off at all, the fans in Edmonton will always love the guy. I can't imagine how closed minded you'd have to be, to dislike a player like Hyman, who has genuinely had to work for every single opportunity he's gotten in this league. 🍻
Funny thing is people will sit here saying it's because of Mcdavid yet when it comes to Mcdavid getting 100 assists vs Matthews getting 70 goals all of a sudden assists don't mean that much lol.
Matthews have been doing 2 points in The last 5 games he is just nothing compares to mcdavid and nathan mackinnon and kucherov and draisaitl lllooll
@hanslilja3873 not saying he isn't a great player either. Just don't understand where these people want the credit to go. When Hyman scores Mcdavid gets the credit... expect he doesn't because assists don't mean that much. So I guess nobody gets credit for those goals.
Great player that has improved, his work ethic and determination to go to the dirty areas has made Zack Hyman a 1st line player.
This list of players that crumbled and failed next to McDavid is much longer than of those who didn't.
Lucic.....Puulijaarvi.....and???????
@@algrundau9441 Kassian, Archibald, Neal, Ennis, Athanasiou, Connor Brown and all other forwards currently on the Oilers not named Draisaitl, Hyman or Nuge (to a degree)?
Ty Rattie says hi.
@@themorethemerrier281It’s hard to keep up with a goat player.. Also most of those guys did pretty well alongside McDavid just not able to win the cup with him
@@themorethemerrier281Neal scored 20 goals his first year and he played sparingly with McDavid, usually only Powerplays.....Ennis, Archibald and certainly Kassian were NEVER , full time line mates....Occasional Line juggling is NOT the same as line mate. Athanisiou was here for barely 20 games, and even in that time did not spend more than half his time playing with McDavid. ....Connor Brown has practically NEVER played with McDavid this year...Nuge got over 100 points last year playing not even half his time with him......Other than that, you are correct about everything else.
Gotta be good to play this good with McDavid so there ya go
There needs to be a serious conversation with Hymans contract. We are seeing arguably the best free agent signing in the modern era, maybe the very best.
His contract was front loaded....AND at the time Toronto fan's laughed at the GROSS OVERPAY. Even Oilers fan's were sceptical.....Good on Hyman for proving his value.
@@algrundau9441 the only thing that matters about a contract being front loaded is when the acctual dollars pay out, the cap hit is an annual average of the total value, so it has no cap implications at all. the only thing front loading a contract does is make it easier to move to budget teams later in the deal because of the $ left to be paid out.
@@algrundau9441 proving his value is an understatement. If Hyman doesn't get another point after this year he's already earned that full contract. 7years x $5.5mil for $38.5mil total. He's far exceeded what we expected from this contract already.
@@digitaldude22...And THAT is the irony....When he first signed, many thought it was an overpay.
Zack is a very very solid gamer, who punches above his weight class and to me is a top 6. If you watch his playoff efforts, he often carries the lines hes on, so no its not just being part of a superstar line that makes this guy shine.
he is the Chris Kuntiz of this era
Cheechoo
This is NOT an issue in Edmonton. Everyone here realises what he brings...We are all also well aware of how well he plays with Nuge, Kane, MacLeod, Foegelle, Ryan, Janmark....anyone really....Not just McD and Drai....Thanks for caring Toronto.
From a Leafs fan: way to go Hyman! Keep it up! 🎉
A bit of both maybe. Yet he has a work ethic second to none & always seems to maintain a positive, upbeat cheery attitude that really is necessary to keep him going even if things around him aren't so positive. He's a heart'n'soul type of player & a real inspiration to his teammates & fans alike imo.
He’s also an author for children’s book. 🤓
A little perspective that should have been mentioned. Of Hymans 46, McDavid has assisted on 29 with the primary assist being 20.
Those statistics are a bit revealing, but the guys still got to be in the right spot and shoot accurately, guess it is a team game after all
That is because he plays on his line.....AND.....when the Oilers put him on a line with Nuge and Kane....or MacLeod and Foegelle he also produces.
OR....when he is asked to kill penalties, he does that well...Just a great all-rounder that plays well with anyone really.
Naturally when he is playing with 2 of arguably the BEST passers in the league, his job description is tailored to their skills.
How many of Matthews goals are assisted by Marner and Nylander?
It's clearly both. If you watch him play there are subtleties to his game that make him who he is. With or without McDavid. I don't think anyone, including Hyman himself, saw him developing his scoring touch as much as he has but he certainly has it now. Hyman is lucky to play with McDavid and Nuge but it goes the other way too.
Lots of players have had the chance to play with Davo. Outside of Drai, nobody has been able to produce like Hyman. He is an awesome player. Best contract in the league. Makes us Oiler fans feel a little better about Nurses contract, lol.
Just having a good season sometimes it goes that way. Good for him
Hyman has a great work ethic..not sure why people have to turn this into Mcdavid vs Matthew conversation..Mcdavid hands down is the best player on the planet..
As good as hyman is he benefits greatly from playing along side Mcdavid..
Rob Brown had 49 goals and 115 points in 68 games in 89-90 playing with Mario.
Exactly, its cuz of connor
Babcock was talking about the Highman on his first day!!
Love Hyman but one of the greatest Oiler seasons ever. Yes, maybe behind about 50 others.
hes a great player, only got removed as TO thought they could do better. I'm glad he came to Oilers. Grinder, goal scorer, over great player.
When ZH left the Leaf’s I was like what is wrong with Duffus?
Lucky? There's no such thing. Not everyone plays well with higher end talent and he's played insanely well since joining the Oilers. You don't just put up 50 goals by mistake, you give credit where credit is due and he's earned the results he's had.
He seems more like a Rob Brown type player, great luck to play with a super star.
🤔Tyler Bertuzzi or Zach Hyman ? I bet most Leafs fans say that they wish that they had a do over/mulligan.
Both are true to some degree
He’s not the most underrated player or just lucky to be playing with McDavid, it’s a bit of both. He wouldn’t be doing this well without McDavid, yes, but that doesn’t discount the way he compliments McDavid style of play. McDavid has had plenty of line mates, none seem to convert as well as Hyman except maybe Draisaitl on the PP. McDavid is good at moving the puck around/keeping control and finding seam passes, Hyman is good at getting open, getting rebounds, and his offensive hockey IQ is just insane.
everyone is saying its because he is playing with McDavid, not so, he is just a hard working player! Also so does that mean that Mathews and Marner are crap players and that is why he never put up the numbers that he is now.......Or can all you Leaf fans just live with the fact it was really dumb to let him go vs signing him for $5.5K for 8 years? Or maybe it was just better to sign Willy for $11.5 and let him go!
He’s a good player but don’t act like he would score 50 without McDavid. In Toronto Marner was looking to setup Matthews not Hyman, so he was left picking up the garbage that his linemates left for him. Now he has the Wayne Gretzky of this era actually looking to feed him. He is a great player and has shown that even in Toronto but this is a career year largely due to 97 and if other teams knew he could score 50 there would have been a bidding war that would have gotten Hyman paid a lot more. Don’t act like this is a stroke of genius by Holland because he also tried to pluck a goalie by the name of Campbell from Toronto as well and… well I don’t have to tell you how that worked out. I’m not a leafs fan just looking at this objectively and I think letting Hyman go was a huge mistake and there’s no bone in my body that believes Toronto can win the cup while I do believe Edmonton has a strong chance.
@@Mellotron63 Though you make some good points with McDavid feeding him he has had a lot of wingers in the past 5 years even that could not get the job done. Hyman has the skill and if he stayed in Toronto I feel he would have done close to the same as he is doing in Edmonton
@@deankung469 maybe, it’s something we’ll truly never know… but one thing we can agree on is they made a big mistake letting him go!
@@Mellotron63 This is why I never understood the Matthews hype. He scores lots of goals, but he does not drive play. He does not set up his teammates. You don't see Matthews carrying the puck from his own blue line most games... It is Nylander and Marner that do that. He is good defensively during the regular season, but stick lifts and finesse don't translate to the playoffs which is why Matthews has 22 goals in 50 career playoff games. McDavid hits more than Matthews this season and is 30 pounds lighter. Matthews needs to get gritty and use his 6'3 220 frame in the playoffs if he wants to win. McDavid is 6'1 190 and has 25 more hits than Matthews right now.
He was that good on the leafs to we should have kept him but no $$$ our loss is Edmontons gain good on them
I forget, what did we get?...or from the $ he free'd up...who was acquired?
He’s not lucky or underrated. He’s amazing and sorely missed in Toronto.
Hyman is a beast, always was. Chemistry with Connor turned him into a monster.
Connor will Catch McK.. but imo the McK is the Avs. Edmonton is more balanced now.
This is the most accurate interpretation of what is going on in the Hart race right now. The Avs the last few years did not need to be carried by MacKinnon, while the Oilers did indeed need to be carried by McDavid and Draisaitl which is why McDavid had 153 points last season and has led the league in points 5 times in 7 years. It is now reversed. MacKinnon has to carry the Avs with some help from Makar and Rantanen while Landeskog is out, and McDavid does not need to carry the Oilers like he once needed to.
The heart race is going to come down to the last few games i think.Its late but still to early to tell.
Best free agent signing Oilers history with Hyman
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everyone for the past eight years has been lucky to play with McDavid. Only two people have scored like crazy though. Leon Draisaitl and Zach Hyman
Only someone in Canada would say an Oilers player is underrated lol good lord you people
We in Edmonton don't underrate Zach at all
Hey McDavid is just like Gretzky he makes everyone better who plays with him and Actually Mcdavid is a much better all around player and no one needs to protect him.I really like Hyman and im a Leaf fan and glad Dumbass is gone.ButAnyone playing with McDavid will get 10 to 15 more goals a season.Hyman is a great player but no matter how good you are McDavid will make you better.But Hyman needs respect for being a great all around player and he keeps playing that way not waiting for McDavid to feed him.
He’s having a good season because teams don’t game plan for him yet. Too busy planing for 97 and 29.
Biggest Dubas's mistake other than appointing his buddy as a coach.
Guy seems genuinely surprised that Hyman is a star! Surely only watching Leaf’s games for the past 3 years.
Wow
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He's "just lucky to play with McDavid" like Gretzky was "just lucky to play with Kurri".
Nonsense.
Let’s be honest, a lot of it is playing with mcdavid. Hyman is a monster though.
McDavid openly said he is trying to get as many assists as possible so Hyman is being fed golden looks from Connor. Great player but clearly with any other linemate, Hyman is average
If Mack gets to 55 goals ~140 points then it’s his trophy no debate. Connor doesn’t even have 30 goals yet. Bedard has more goals per game than mcdavo
I think Mackinnon should be 3rd in voting. Kucherov is doing it all himself but he's Russian so he won't get the votes and the Oilers were the worst team in the NHL when Mcdavid was injured and had his slow start. The Avs are still a stacked team. Mackinnon plays with the best Dman and best winger in the NHL.
Hyman is great, not under-rated at all. We love him.
Remove the blue paint in front of the net. Hyman can be inside of the goalie and the goal stands.!!! No one has hacked Hyman yet, but look out playoffs!!!
I'd score 40+ playing with McDavid 😂
So you're a better hockey player than Connor Brown?
@@potent.quotables no, better than Hyman though 😂. I'm obviously joking, Hyman doesn't get the respect he deserves, he's an amazing player.
Didn't work for Jesse Puljujarvi
@@potent.quotables Connor Brown does not even play on the same line as McDavid. He is a 4th liner. It has been Nuge/Draisaitl/Kane and Hyman with McDavid all season long. Brown played with McDavid like twice in the first ten games and that's it.
@@rrhev Jesse Puljujarvi could not find a puck in his jock strap and could not eat from the silver platter dishes served to him if he tried. He is a great defensive forward and forechecker, but does not have offensive instincts at all and has no fin(n)ish. 1 goal in 28 games since being traded to Carolina and then Pittsburgh.
Leafs let this guy go 😂
Thank you.
The truth is always somewhere in tge middle...
i did the day toronto leafs traded him
They screwed up when they traded him
We got him as a free agent
@@iambee312 Yeah. that's what makes it even funnier. They let him walk away for nothing. Hyman wanted to resign in Toronto and he would have taken a home town discount to do so. Even though this is one of the best signings for a player in many years, Toronto could have had him for even cheaper. Hard workers like Hyman don't come around too often. I don't have a clue what Dubas was thinking when letting him go for NOTHING. LOL
@@darpompie4354 when i watched Leaf games when he was still on the team you could see he had a hard-nosed work ethic with little flashes of quality. I love players that give 100% every night and when the Oilers picked him up i was both surprised and very pleased. Given the chance every team should have a Hyman type player on their team. His gritty hardwork and ability to be in the right place at the right time perfectly compliments Nuge and McDavid's play.
Though i can see him having some regression in goals of McD decides next season that he wants to start scoring goals again.
The answer is both. Every player's stats will inflate with elite talent but you still need to belong on skates. If it were just as easy as "playing with McDavid" then Lucic would've also been this good in Edmonton.
Product of the Mcdavid effect. Hyman was never that talented or skilled. Just a hard worker that gets in front of goalies
If we team Hyman without Mcdavid next season and see how he does will put this question to rest.
I don’t think anyone underrates Hyman or thinks he is just lucky. This is just a made up topic to get clicks
I don’t like these dichotomies, why can’t both be true?
Very unrated player when he played in toronto, his skillset works better with mcdavid than matthews. Plus he has a side hustle writing children books.
You had to know before posting this video that ZERO Leafs "fans" would be watching thus eliminating 99% of your viewer base!!
Fluke cuz of connor
Oilers are going to win the pacific division. Canucks just arnt good.
That remains to be seen, as a Oilers fan myself I think it is rather premature & disrespectful to dismiss the Canucks like that because they already have exceeded everyone's expectations probably including their own. Before this season started I'll bet that nobody picked them to do this well. Respect is due for them for they deserve it & earned it imo.
Come on TSN, your media channel only talk about Canadian born players and you only want to talk about Hyman because he is a Canadian. Stop being so racis* please!
Lets look at the start of the season when oilers lost 3 straight to the canucks. Mcdavid and draisital where the only "good" players in those 3 games with hyman doing fuck all.
Hes just lucky playing with the leagues best player
Look at the other 30+ games since then, it's not a 2man team anymore
Hyman is very fortunate to be playing with McDick and Drai. Without them, he wouldn't crack 30 goals. Either way Leafs suck!
lucky to play with McDavid...
and he was unlucky to play with Mathews and Marner?
@@deankung469nobody said that?
@@deankung469 so you trying to say Marner and Mathews have the same impact passing a puck as McDavid?
@@ineedthatglass the implication was definetely there
@@ineedthatglass read the comment above, "Lucky to play with McDavid" that was my reply to the post
I like Hyman a lot, but he’s the beneficiary of playing with McDavid for sure.
No crap. If it was so easy everyone would do it though. 😊