I've been a hooker (CH-47 kind) for over 15 years. Both in the army and now as a civilian. As minute as it might be. I find it slightly disappointing that they incorporated so many videos of 46's while continuing to talk about 47's. Also how little time was spent discussing Guns A Go-Go. Another thing is the "stealth" Chinook. Anybody who has ever seen a 47 in person will tell you that it's impossible to make one stealth. That all being said, I'm probably being a little overcritical.
I was an eyewitness to Guns-a-Go-Go ship "Co$t of Living" shooting itself down on 5/5/67. They were prepping an LZ that we were assaulting into. Horrific sight, watching that ship crash with 8 crewmen aboard.
No, I concur. I am a former Army Aviator and get spun up, so to say when they use photos and video footage of the wrong aircraft. Bugs the shit out of me. I was class of 89-14 and became a scout helicopter pilot. Got to love the heat and humidity of Mother Rucker. AKA….. UCLA. Ugliest Corner of Lower Alabama Such fond memories.
Great video! The glimpse of the CH-46 Battle Phrog brought a tear to my eye. There are hardly any videos of it out there. I spent half a decade on that platform as an avionics technician in the US Marine Corps from 2008-2013. It’s one of the most underrated aircraft ever utilized. 50 years of active service as a frontline aircraft with very few airframes changes from countries like the US, Sweden, Canada, and Japan is ludicrous. Although the CH-46 had a few issues it grew into a beloved airframe by crews, technicians, and grunts alike. Hell one of the aircraft in the US State department’s evacuation of Afghanistan was operating in the evacuation of Saigon 50 years prior. It maybe a minivan… It maybe slow… but the old bird refused to die even after retirement.
@@Wolvieonepunch Thanks! there are countless stories with them. There’s a Medal of Honor from the Vietnam War where guys in a CH46 rescued a squad of wounded Marines in a minefield under fire. There’s guys I’ve know who aircraft have shrugged off direct hits from RPG’s (whether it’s luck or a great design.) I’ve worked with one of the original designers of the aircraft from time to time before his passing. Norm Clark was his name. The guy had seen his aircraft design save so many lives. The damn thing was so robust, you could lose an engine or 3 FEET of rotor blades and still limp it home. It’s just one of those unknown helos that you never hear about but see it in movies like Battle: LA (my squadron was the unit filmed) or in the original Call of Duty Modern Warfare.
@@justinseekell1356 Three feet is a LOT of blade (and weight) to have on a 1:1 lateral. 3 inches, maybe. But three feet? 21+ years of crewing -47's and I've seen what just knocking the blade tracking weights off of a blade after hitting the hose and basket during an aerial refueling can do. It's a violent, abusive ride being out of track by far less than 3 feet. ACFT came out of the sky with a quickness; had to be sent back and completely reworked by Boeing.
Interesting bird for sure! I was a Skid kid /airframes but got lucky and recruited to join HMX-1 in 1999-2004. So that is where I got the chance to work on the CH46.Semper Fi!
@@heavenst.murgatroyd3128 There’s an substantial difference how a typical strike damages a rotor/drive system and what an a RPG does by directly hitting a blade. Weight and balance is a huge issue. The bird will chug along for an emergency landing and it won’t be a pleasant ride, but it’s been done. Our blades were MUCH lighter. We replaced them by hand on the flighline. No hoists. Just a couple of E-3s walking the 175lb blade across the tunnel and dropping the pins in. And our total weight is half that of the 47 but our total rotor diameter was 85% (51’ to 60’.)There was always an abundance of lift with the Phrog. It was just a miracle the blade didn’t completely delaminate during the situation or cause the dreaded sync-shaft twist and tunnel strike. Again, this story was from their tech rep and engineer who has since passed but was always a straight shooter. But the bird was brought back to the states for repair and overhaul.
When I was flying in the Vietnam War, I flew the Chinooks and they are incredible to fly. They respond so well to you, probably the best chopper I flew or at least my favourite.
My first impression is that the thing would be like flying a tractor trailer with a tractor at each end. Amazing to hear that I am way off in my assessment.
@@stellamcwick8455 yes that is impression or holding a sheet of plywood in the air and controlling it, lol but in reality it responds so well to your touch. I have flown many different chopper’s during my life and it’s still my favourite.
@@newt21 just curious but what about it makes it respond so well compared to a smaller, single rotor design? I’m an engineer but not in aeronautics so I’m trying to picture what makes this design different.
@@stellamcwick8455 I think because it has a tandem rotor, meaning two main rotors attached to the body unlike any other. Because of this you can fly faster and carry more weight than most helicopters. Once you are trained on this and master it, you control it, you just feel everything. It also has an automatic sensory system which helps the pilot greatly.
"...Black project upgrades that could keep the Chinook flying well into the future..." Once again, this guy is just spouting hyperbole because it sounds good in the video. I've been part of the CH-47 community for 30 years. Boeing has plenty of orders in its books to keep the line open for years to come without any black project assistance. India just purchased 15 recently, and now are in negotiations to buy some more. Germany just bought 60 (!) of them. Egypt ordered 12 this year. South Korea has orders that are still leaving the factory. Non-stealthy -47s aren't going anywhere anytime soon in my lifetime.
Yea but it doesn’t make all that much sense to me even when I first heard about the Osama bin Ladan raid. How do you have two stealth helicopters that make it undetected to the compound but you have a qrf in a chinook two miles away that also wasn’t detected? Of course there are a million things you could like jamming but in a way that would alert the Pakistani military so I figured they flew low but if you look at the terrain from the ground it’s surrounded by high mountains. I’m not saying they had a stealth chinook because this is the first I ever heard of it and to be honest I don’t know all that much about it. Nevertheless it always had me curious about that qrf. I think at some point someone was detected or the shit that was happening on the ground made them scramble aircraft but again I wasn’t there and I don’t know about that kind of stuff. If you could fill in some of those blanks for me it would be appreciated. I’m not asking in like a dick way I’m very intrigued on how that might have been done.
He's got to have something a bit hyperbolic to say in the opening 10sec. It gives the whole presentation an air of mystery if you add in the talk of "black ops".
@@frenzalrhomb6919 yea after watching it I think I miss understood his comment. By the video I don’t think he was saying the ch47s were a black project and he might of took it that way. The Blackhawks weren’t a black project but they still used a black project to make them stealth
@@ponz- I don't know, he's not averse to using hyperbolic language such as that, to create a bit of "buzz" or "excitement" around the video, and I think it may help to keep his audience until the end of the video, which means, of course, maximum add revenue for the channel. And this guy's got at least another 3 or more "dark" this or that, channels, so he's a full-time RUclips creator, so he knows every trick in the book.
Great video! The only drawback is the interchangeability of the CH-46 (USMC) and CH-47 (USA) in your footage. They're completely different airframes...
One once landed in the playground yard of my Elementary school, and we had a full planned day around the role of military, the equipment, etc. We as kids all got to walk through the Chinook in single-file and see it up close. Was awesome to watch and be a part of. Was like 1988 or so
We have an annual air display where I live, before that new cold-thing was about there used to be a static helicopter display in the park just across the road from our old place. It was cool watching them land and take off so close to our place, throughout the day of the display people are free to to have a look around them. We had Chinooks, Pumas, SeaKings, Lynx’, and a Belgian SAR helicopter over the years (from memory), fun times 🤙🏻 Hopefully it comes back this year 🙂 🤝
I have been around Chinooks nearly my entire life: from Ft. Rucker and Ft. Hood, when I was in the Army myself, and living near the 1106th AVCRAD of the California Army National Guard. One thing I can say with ABSOLUTE certainty.....you know when one is coming. The rotor and transmission whine is different that anything else that beats the air into submission. Making a Chinook 'stealth' would be akin to making Chris Farley into an Olympic diver.
@@mcinteer19 You can make any helicopter stealthy and low noise. Its a matter of how much changes will half to be made. In the Chinooks case it would be best to just make one from scratch based on the design and airframe and build from the ground up. Both are totally possible.
My AC-130s were nextdoor to the 160th's Chinooks in Bagram. We did a little "show and tell" where we brought their guys onto our aircraft and toured them around and then they did the same for us. It's probably one of the most well thought-out aircraft I've seen. And there were multiple times they came back from missions shot up, but they never failed to make it back
Was that ability, just an unintended design consequence? Because that part of your statement reminded me that, as a kid, I read how one unintended consequence of the B-17's design was that it could be shot to hell and still come back to base, and now I am curious about that aspect of the Chinook. By the way, the venerable A-10 is another aircraft that can take a severe beating and return home.
@@markhusseymh1 I was there a while afterwards. 2017-2018. Everyone from the maintainers up to the pilots were awesome dudes. It's easy to see that everyone in those units were the best of the best and nothing phased them
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 There's armor plating that gets added to deployed aircraft. The other big thing you see a lot of is redundant systems, especially on special operations aircraft. And third, I would chalk a lot of it up to the training and skill of those Chinook pilots. We had one night where they took heavy small arms fire, throwing glass shards from the cockpit into the faces of the pilots. It damaged the aircraft badly and the pilots were obviously injured. But they flew for miles to a safer location before offloading the operators in the back and getting medical attention for themselves. Our AC-130s provided overwatch and fire support, so we saw some of it
Former Nightstalker (86-89) here, 160th was not SOAR during Mount Hope III it was SOAG. Special Operation Aviation GROUP. There were only 7 companies that made up the group back then. HHC company A company (slick little birds) B company (little bird gunships) C and D company (Black Hawks) E company (Chinooks) these birds participated during Mount Hope III. F company (aviation maintenance) Was C company armorer for two years, was part of Prime Chance in the Persian Gulf. Like the channel but you need to fact check a little better. Regards.
@@lewiscox9223 thank me? No. I was never in ( insert plucked up area ) doing ( Redacted ) “hood rat $hit. “ the pilots deserve the thanks. They are Studs.
I watched a doc on the Blackhawk and one of the pilots interviewed said it was every Blackhawk pilot's secret shame that Chinooks have to slow down to keep from leaving the Blackhawks behind.
It has to do with aerodynamics and a condition called “retreating blade stall”. All single rotor helicopters are restricted by this. However, the counter rotating blades alleviate this concern, until you get beyond the other helicopters In our inventory. My aircraft, the OH-58 and OH-6 was limited to 120 knots, so we were the slow pokes. I can’t say , without looking it up what the other birds forward airspeeds were, but they were far in excess of my aircraft. I still had a great time flying for the Army.
@@davidclaudy4822 thank you for an informed reply. I guess it just seems weird realizing that for helicopters, looks fast doesn't always equal goes fast.
I had the privilege of joining the 160th on multiple test flights, including terrain following runs through the mountains. This was on their previous generation MH-60s and MH-47s. Impressive aircraft and even more impressive pilots.
The only helicopter that can perform High Altitude Rescue from Mount Denali, Alaska. U S. Army CH-47F. Crew from Ft. Wainwright, AK performed a rescue at 19,600' off North America's tallest mountain. No other helicopter can perform this mission.
that's the merit of dual lift-rotor designs, be they staged or counter rotating. Very few nations do them but the two that routinely do; the lift for size is unmatched. As is often underappreciated the manoeuvrability for attack helicopters; be it an elevation burst after a steep dive almost kissing dirt, or turning a tight circle I have zero doubt the successor to the Apache will be dual rotor.
Wasn't a Foxtrot model, highspeed. Dirty Deltas did all that. Before 714's and FADEC, too. Plus, the Kaman K-Max sets up most of the base camps, now. Sugarbears are too busy doing Big Army things.
The eurocopter the AS350B3 has landed on top of Everest and performed a rescue at 7800m that’s 25590 feet the AS350B3 has also performed a rescue on Denali
@@jameson1239 yes, but they have almost no useful load capacity. The Chinook can lift off at 56000 lbs total. That is 28k for itself and 28k for cargo. That's a LOT of weight, and it does it with finesse and power. There are a couple of Russian makes that can outlift it, but they can't *outrun* it. The Chinook is DAMN fast in addition to being able to carry a lot. On the deck, when I add in torque rapidly, I can climb STRAIGHT UP at over 60mph!!! That's STUPID fast. When we are at max gross, the winds coming off the rotors are the same as a category V hurricane.
I was a mechanic for this thing. It's loud, rattles like crazy, and leaks all over the place. I kinda thought it was a piece of junk until we got deployed to Afghanistan. Seeing what it was capable of and how many lives it saved changed my opinion of it. Plus for something with this many moving parts, it's surprisingly reliable, even in harsh conditions.
If you've never seen one of these in person, it is mind blowing. After hurricane Ian hit here, I saw these almost daily flying in and out of Fenway south where they were set up. One took off carrying a shipping container. Wild to see that in the sky
When a Chinook is carrying any external load from any one of its three hooks a flight engineer is on his/her belly carefully observing the load underneath through the "hell hole." As the airspeed increases it is imperative that the load rides stable without any wild oscillations. Carrying irregularly-shaped bundles such as lumber or other building material presents the greatest hazard. The pilots have a pickle button on their cyclic which will instantly open the hook and dump the load if the swinging mass underneath threatens the helicopter. Chinook pilots always attempt to fly a route over unpopulated areas should a "pickle" become mandatory. (Fortunately, I never had to jettison a load.)
As a Former 67T Blackhawk CrewChief/Mechanic we say (jokingly) “Ah the $hithook, the only aircraft capable of a midair collision with itself”!, “Looks like 2 Palm Trees, in a Hurricane, beating a dumpster”! And “If it’s not leaking fluids, you better start worrying, because it’s empty”! All joking aside, they’re one badass bird! Capable of over 200 mph and carrying a $hitton of weight!!!
Lol....I was trained on the flying hydraulic leak....and it's the only thing uglier than the A-10..... which makes them both the two most important pieces of equipment in the air
As a proud veteran as well as an American Indian, I feel awfully privileged to serve and work with awesome ingenuity. I refueled many of the USMC helicopters like the chinook 46, 47, and 53’s, cobra’s, Harrier jets and even some Army choppers. I lived on the USS Boxer LHD 4 amphibious assault ship gator class. When fully locked and loaded for war she comfortably seats a crew of 6-7k 80% are Marines hitching a ride.
I love this channel,but sometimes they mix up the different airframes. There are plenty of videos of the CH-47, they could have used. And yes, there is a "stealth" version, the MH-47, or "The Cow", because of the extra large fuel tanks. It has all kinds of dampers and insulation to bring the noise significantly down. Having lived and retired out of Ft.Cambell for several years, I can always tell the difference between the regular Army and the Nightstalker versions. You can barely hear it, but my house would still shake as they did practice landings at the airfield. The MH is significantly quieter than the regular version but you can't damper 6,000hp and brute force rotor wash by 5ft wide blades.
Agree -- he mixes CH-46 and CH-47 images. I flew the '46 as a Marine and later, the '47 as an Army Reservist. I know and love them both. (We had other former Marine Corps pilots in our USAR unit too, some of whom I recruited. Pilots gotta fly!)
I witnessed a silent running UH1 once when I was serving in 29 Palms, they interrupted a 6 pack of beer on a dune near our barracks, was spooky how close they got on a quiet night when suddenly they turned on their spotlight and scarred us silly, we had a good laugh. It was ultra-secret because I never saw it again, but it was real.
I was Air Assault for all but 4 years of my 24 year career in the Army. I have flown in Hueys, Cayuses, Blackhawks and, as we affectionately called them, Shithooks. If you ever have any loose dental work, the Shithook will shake them right out of your jaw. It was also extraordinarily LOUD. I once noticed a leaking hydraulic fitting and brought it to the Crew Chief's attention. He told me "Oh that? That's normal, but come get me quick if it _STOPS_ leaking".
I love how they keep showing pics of the CH-46 and CH-47 interchangeably. Come one Dark, forget the crayon eaters. They bought the wrong bird, and retired it already. Army bought the right one and will keep them flying for nearly 100 years!
Can you imagine if the Chinook and the Hercules were never designed, both are decades old but are still really integral to many countries militaries and used in so many different ways that it's uncountable.
When I was in the US Navy, a flight of Blackhawks flew over one night, maybe 150 feet off the ground. They had big flat disks above the rotors that sucked up the sound to the point you could barely hear them fly past.
These big boys sometimes fly over my house and sometimes they're flying pretty low and the sound is just incredible. It's both terrifying and amazing. Normal helicopters are loud. Chinooks are on another level. There is no mistaking this dual rotor beast. The first time one flew over it was moving low and slow. I was inside so I only heard this one, but it was very unexpected and time seemed to almost stand still like it was hovering very nearby (at least this is how it sounded). After it finally flew over my house I was almost expecting an entire platoon of army rangers to come walking out from the woods 😂
Jumped out of one, “Fun Jump” 2/505 PIR. Couldn’t count the times I flew in them. But you could tell the difference in models CH-47 vs MH-47. Maybe the night stalkers were just that good. 3/75 RGR Medic, loved those mini gun test fires😻
I crewed on A model Hooks in 1976 at the 49th Aviation Co, Ca NG in Stockton Ca. Huge lift capability, a bit of a plumber’s nightmare with hydraulics. SAS was necessary to keep it flying straight.
I like the Chinook, in Afghanistan it brought my platoon all over the place, especially back and forth to OPs that would have really sucked climbing up the mountainside. (not to mention the safety of them brining us in/out in the dark). When I left Army, I joined aviation unit in the guard and got to fly on Blackhawk, thing made me feel sick, Chinook was a luxury ride in comparison. (I assume two points of lift make for a smoother ride.)
I thought the ch-53 was the heavy lifter. I watched one crash lifting artillery at camp lejeune in 1984 when we were practicing at the m203 range. Couldn’t get a 100 yards from it due to the intense heat. Horrible. Went from a couple hundred Marines standing in line goofing and chattering up a storm waiting to fire the grenade launchers to complete and utter silence after the tragedy occurred. I’ll never forget feeling so helpless not being able to get close to the burning helicopter. It was so hot.
Had a CH47 fly over my property and house about a month ago. Maybe 200 ft off the deck. I could hear it coming from a mile away. To me it sounds like a Huey this louder. Blades "beating the air". (I get a lot of military aircraft over my property. I was told because of the vastness of farm fields, it makes a good training area)
The 160th chinnys were not "stealth" like the hawks but they were electronically stealthy and had advanced ECM. One of the 2 47Gs did QRF to the compound from the FARP and they were said to be engaged by a CAP F16 which was trying to light them up but their ECM was effective.
I have to admit, I laughed at the title!! Chinook . . . secret mission . . . you can hear them ten miles away!!! Seriously, I knew it had a long history, and I recognised several of the previous types form reading about them. A very interesting edition, thank you. 👍👍👍👍
as a radio tower climber i LOVE when these do fly overs when I'm on the top of a tower. Had 6 go over me one time, I could tell I caught a pilots eye, and all 6 circled back around to wave
9:14 - How would flying at over 50 MPH keep the helicopters within visual range of each other? Either I'm missing something, or that makes no sense at all.
@@robreesor5011 They normally do fly faster than 50mph anyway. I think he probably either meant they flew within 50 ft of each other to keep within visual distance or they slowed down to around 50mph to make it easier to stay together.
These things were infamous for the rotors flying off and crashing in the 80's. I remember a cousin's dad who was army saying most grunts were terrified to be in them.
@@jgrenwod well a flight engineer told me it could float up to 30 minutes without the engines running. If the turbines are on then it's not really floating.
They are quicker than you think. Once airborne, these things can do "up and out" maneuvers amazingly fast. Seen one recently near Bowman Field, Louisville KY.
Having Dual rotors turning in opposite directions means that it's MUCH less restricted by Retreating Blade Stall - a condition that affects EVERY helicopter as they speed up - usually restricting the speed of a single rotor craft to (usually) below 160 kts or so.
My dad served in the marines during Vietnam. He was taking footage of helicopters landing on a carriers and got in trouble. This was top secret stuff back in the late 60s.
So, that thing you saw that they said was a tail rotor of an imaginary aircraft couldn't possibly be the main rotor of some other device, right? I mean, they TOLD US it was a Stealth Blackhawk tail rotor, so that's absolutely what it has to be, right? Yes, absolutely something struck the wall and came to rest inside the compound (not a single account anywhere says there was a "shoot down" of any kind). But what they BIP'd of the remains wasn't NEAR enough to have been an MH-60 of ANY variant. When the truth comes out, just remember how much you believed to be true, how much was actually a coverup for something else, and then understand how things really work. Which I'm guessing, deep down inside, you already know. But what would I know, I'm not even smart enough to believe everything I hear. 😉
@@heavenst.murgatroyd3128 Well here is your chance , what type of helicopter was it ? updated version of the MH-6, Note I seen the picture and the tail rotor diameter was much taller than the human standing next to it. Did not look like it would match up to the MH6. Ive flown the MD 500 and the tail rotor is very small compared to what crashed. Whats your thoughts ?
@@FalconWing1813 Unmanned, maybe, if I had to make a wild, Tom Clancy-ish guess. That was possibly the main rotor, the payload was probably snatched up and extracted in a -60 along with the body of bin Laden. If you encapsulate the main rotor on a lightweight craft, she's be quite quiet and sneaky. 🤔
I have on several occasions witnessed Chinooks ferrying M777 artillery pieces to air shows. The sound signature is unmistakable, as it has a very distinctive lower register wop, wop, whopping sound. Newer and quieter blades would quieten but not effect the low frequency sound signature, yet it remains the only practical concession to stealth in my opinion.
Careful, you're using some materials of the CH-46 Sea Knight, which is a US Navy platform which is much smaller and lighter for use on air carrier ops. You'll know you're looking at a CH-47 when you see 2 front landing gear assemblies, and a CH-46 if you see a single, center mounted landing gear assembly.
Right you are! The '46, although a bit slower, is sportier to fly & more maneuverable whilst the '47 never seems to run out of brute lifting power. (I flew 'em both in separate military services.) Another differentiator: CH-46 engines are internal at the base of the tail; the CH-47 engines are external and easy to spot. If you ever saw them parked next to each other, the size difference is obvious.
As a new aircraft mechanic, I would be willing to live in secret, just to do maintenance on these bad-ass aircrafts. That would be the fucking dream life right there.
With the advent of rapid prototyping, there will likely be all sorts of rare variants that nobody will ever see. Full production and tooling is not required anymore. They could literally make 4 of something or less at Groom, and never do it again. Years ago I got to see the 160th testing one of the new 47G models on the western ranges. It had some interesting boxes on it, and was in basic gray, not black. They also had a 60K.
truly excellent documentary about an aircraft of great import and immediately recognizable silhouette, though not so well know. Until this video. Thank you.
Get Chinooks flying past our house quite often at night following the motorway , always run out when I hear one coming. It always amazes me how quiet a Chinook can be when it's down low in the terrain.
As a fourth grader at Our Lady of Perpetual Help in Media PA I can remember vividly the Chinooks overflying the playground from the nearby Boeing Vertol plant, low enough for us to see the pilot's white helmet. That would have been 1964, going into the Vietnam era.
My brother was a flt eng on a ch47 in Vietnam -- his CH47A has been converted and is now a MH model and it flys over our house as part of the 160th SOAR.
Thump, thump, thump, thump........ There is no mistaking the sound of a Chinook. When they fly over my home, they are almost always heard, long before they are seen. It's hard to imagine a "stealth" version, without the iconic sound signature.
I live near the 1106th AVCRAD in Fresno, there's no doubt what they are when they fly in or out. I don't even walk outside for a Black Hawk anymore, but I will for a Delta Schooner.
Do not know about the chinook being stealthy but a lot of people have seen the other quiet helicopter around southern Indiana near FtKnox starting in the 80s one chased a Harrison county sheriff’s deputy and they chased it . Was on the national news as a UFO story 😅
when i was going through 15U training, i got to assist some of the instructors with the tear down of 1 of the 3 original experimental aircraft. i worked of delta and fox models.
The CH was not stealth during the B-raid ,there was only two stealth blackhawks we had the CH’s parked waiting as back up..one black hawk was crashed and we destroyed it before we left..
When I enlisted in the Army I wanted to be a door gunner on a Helicopter this was when the Vietnam war was still active. At the last moment I change my mind with the Army recruiter and went in a differnt direction in the Army.
Thank you for the History on this great two Rotor main rotor Helicopter. I went to one at the Boeing museum in Seattle at Boeing Field. I was amazed by the shaft running inside the main frame "OPEN" to rotation. That the Drive line would be exposed in the cargo bay. Just a wonderful Helicopter. I hope the tilt Rotor will NOT take this craft away.
I lived in Puget Sound for decades and flew the '46 as a Marine reservist then later, the '47 as an Army reservist out of Everett. The Army has some very skilled and experienced pilots and flight engineers with whom it was a privilege to fly. However I was amazed at how mind-numbingly slow and tortuous the acquisition process for new US Army helicopters was for potential bidders. Army was/is always a late-adopter! As a result, I predict the Chinook will reach 100 years of service . . . easy. (Before we moved out of state, I had hoped to be a docent at the Pacific Museum of Flight at Boeing Field. Been there several times.)
@@Borzoi86 Thank you for your service my Military friend I was 6 years on a (ST) small tug. ST-2154 Out of the port of Tacoma. The Army Reserve now runs the company, my ST was built in the 1950s. The multi task tugs the Army Reserve has today are state of the art.
You'll enjoy this: in the early 1990s, one of our USAR Chinook pilots from our reserve unit at Everett got interested in learning about Army landing ships based at Tacoma. (Are they still there?) He went back east to go through the Army's "sailor school" and subsequently earned a master's license to drive those boats. Interesting career path to say the least. He is now retired. @@rp1645
The amount of pilots who watch this channel always make the comments fun,it helps balance out the”Karen’s” and” besserwissers” that usually populate the comments. 😅
I saw one the day you posted this. Was that on purpose or something? Blacked out chinook with a long fuel feeder. I didn’t hear it I looked up and saw it flying by
You spent an uncomfortable amount of time telling me about "CH-47s" but showing me video clips of CH-46s...that the Army didn't have. Also the Neptune Spear mission had the modified "Stealth Hawks" but "regular" 160th CH-47Ms. Like someone else said, its literally impossible to make them "stealth".
The 160th uses a grass airstrip a block from my house in Kentucky as a way-point. One night I stepped outside and I saw 7 Chinooks flying at 100' with only their green slime-lights (formation lights) on. While they were loud when right in front of you, the sound attenuated extremely quickly . So I may have heard each Chinook for 5 seconds at most.
I've been a hooker (CH-47 kind) for over 15 years. Both in the army and now as a civilian. As minute as it might be. I find it slightly disappointing that they incorporated so many videos of 46's while continuing to talk about 47's. Also how little time was spent discussing Guns A Go-Go. Another thing is the "stealth" Chinook. Anybody who has ever seen a 47 in person will tell you that it's impossible to make one stealth. That all being said, I'm probably being a little overcritical.
I was an eyewitness to Guns-a-Go-Go ship "Co$t of Living" shooting itself down on 5/5/67. They were prepping an LZ that we were assaulting into. Horrific sight, watching that ship crash with 8 crewmen aboard.
That first sentence is a strong way to start a statement. That’s an odd thing to say in a video about helicopters😂😂
@jimmel young the term "hooker" means someone who works on and / or crews CH-47's. Whether it be military or civilian.
No, I concur. I am a former Army Aviator and get spun up, so to say when they use photos and video footage of the wrong aircraft. Bugs the shit out of me.
I was class of 89-14 and became a scout helicopter pilot.
Got to love the heat and humidity of Mother Rucker. AKA…..
UCLA.
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Such fond memories.
Hooker here too! Whip whip whip!
0:11 you can see the male CH-47 Chinook’s massive balls
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Great video! The glimpse of the CH-46 Battle Phrog brought a tear to my eye. There are hardly any videos of it out there. I spent half a decade on that platform as an avionics technician in the US Marine Corps from 2008-2013. It’s one of the most underrated aircraft ever utilized. 50 years of active service as a frontline aircraft with very few airframes changes from countries like the US, Sweden, Canada, and Japan is ludicrous. Although the CH-46 had a few issues it grew into a beloved airframe by crews, technicians, and grunts alike. Hell one of the aircraft in the US State department’s evacuation of Afghanistan was operating in the evacuation of Saigon 50 years prior. It maybe a minivan… It maybe slow… but the old bird refused to die even after retirement.
Cool story man
@@Wolvieonepunch Thanks! there are countless stories with them. There’s a Medal of Honor from the Vietnam War where guys in a CH46 rescued a squad of wounded Marines in a minefield under fire. There’s guys I’ve know who aircraft have shrugged off direct hits from RPG’s (whether it’s luck or a great design.) I’ve worked with one of the original designers of the aircraft from time to time before his passing. Norm Clark was his name. The guy had seen his aircraft design save so many lives. The damn thing was so robust, you could lose an engine or 3 FEET of rotor blades and still limp it home. It’s just one of those unknown helos that you never hear about but see it in movies like Battle: LA (my squadron was the unit filmed) or in the original Call of Duty Modern Warfare.
@@justinseekell1356 Three feet is a LOT of blade (and weight) to have on a 1:1 lateral. 3 inches, maybe. But three feet? 21+ years of crewing -47's and I've seen what just knocking the blade tracking weights off of a blade after hitting the hose and basket during an aerial refueling can do. It's a violent, abusive ride being out of track by far less than 3 feet. ACFT came out of the sky with a quickness; had to be sent back and completely reworked by Boeing.
Interesting bird for sure! I was a Skid kid /airframes but got lucky and recruited to join HMX-1 in 1999-2004. So that is where I got the chance to work on the CH46.Semper Fi!
@@heavenst.murgatroyd3128 There’s an substantial difference how a typical strike damages a rotor/drive system and what an a RPG does by directly hitting a blade. Weight and balance is a huge issue. The bird will chug along for an emergency landing and it won’t be a pleasant ride, but it’s been done. Our blades were MUCH lighter. We replaced them by hand on the flighline. No hoists. Just a couple of E-3s walking the 175lb blade across the tunnel and dropping the pins in. And our total weight is half that of the 47 but our total rotor diameter was 85% (51’ to 60’.)There was always an abundance of lift with the Phrog. It was just a miracle the blade didn’t completely delaminate during the situation or cause the dreaded sync-shaft twist and tunnel strike. Again, this story was from their tech rep and engineer who has since passed but was always a straight shooter. But the bird was brought back to the states for repair and overhaul.
When I was flying in the Vietnam War, I flew the Chinooks and they are incredible to fly. They respond so well to you, probably the best chopper I flew or at least my favourite.
My first impression is that the thing would be like flying a tractor trailer with a tractor at each end. Amazing to hear that I am way off in my assessment.
@@stellamcwick8455 yes that is impression or holding a sheet of plywood in the air and controlling it, lol but in reality it responds so well to your touch. I have flown many different chopper’s during my life and it’s still my favourite.
@@newt21 just curious but what about it makes it respond so well compared to a smaller, single rotor design? I’m an engineer but not in aeronautics so I’m trying to picture what makes this design different.
@@stellamcwick8455 I think because it has a tandem rotor, meaning two main rotors attached to the body unlike any other. Because of this you can fly faster and carry more weight than most helicopters. Once you are trained on this and master it, you control it, you just feel everything. It also has an automatic sensory system which helps the pilot greatly.
@@newt21 CH-47F is coming to DCS World simulator in coming years (possible for 2023-2024).
"...Black project upgrades that could keep the Chinook flying well into the future..." Once again, this guy is just spouting hyperbole because it sounds good in the video. I've been part of the CH-47 community for 30 years. Boeing has plenty of orders in its books to keep the line open for years to come without any black project assistance. India just purchased 15 recently, and now are in negotiations to buy some more. Germany just bought 60 (!) of them. Egypt ordered 12 this year. South Korea has orders that are still leaving the factory. Non-stealthy -47s aren't going anywhere anytime soon in my lifetime.
Yea but it doesn’t make all that much sense to me even when I first heard about the Osama bin Ladan raid. How do you have two stealth helicopters that make it undetected to the compound but you have a qrf in a chinook two miles away that also wasn’t detected? Of course there are a million things you could like jamming but in a way that would alert the Pakistani military so I figured they flew low but if you look at the terrain from the ground it’s surrounded by high mountains. I’m not saying they had a stealth chinook because this is the first I ever heard of it and to be honest I don’t know all that much about it. Nevertheless it always had me curious about that qrf. I think at some point someone was detected or the shit that was happening on the ground made them scramble aircraft but again I wasn’t there and I don’t know about that kind of stuff. If you could fill in some of those blanks for me it would be appreciated. I’m not asking in like a dick way I’m very intrigued on how that might have been done.
He's got to have something a bit hyperbolic to say in the opening 10sec. It gives the whole presentation an air of mystery if you add in the talk of "black ops".
@@frenzalrhomb6919 yea after watching it I think I miss understood his comment. By the video I don’t think he was saying the ch47s were a black project and he might of took it that way. The Blackhawks weren’t a black project but they still used a black project to make them stealth
@@ponz- I don't know, he's not averse to using hyperbolic language such as that, to create a bit of "buzz" or "excitement" around the video, and I think it may help to keep his audience until the end of the video, which means, of course, maximum add revenue for the channel. And this guy's got at least another 3 or more "dark" this or that, channels, so he's a full-time RUclips creator, so he knows every trick in the book.
HOOKER!
Great video! The only drawback is the interchangeability of the CH-46 (USMC) and CH-47 (USA) in your footage. They're completely different airframes...
He has limited footage choices because he is using stock videos and images. This is also an AI voice.
One once landed in the playground yard of my Elementary school, and we had a full planned day around the role of military, the equipment, etc. We as kids all got to walk through the Chinook in single-file and see it up close. Was awesome to watch and be a part of. Was like 1988 or so
Wish they still did that
That would be so fun.
We have an annual air display where I live, before that new cold-thing was about there used to be a static helicopter display in the park just across the road from our old place.
It was cool watching them land and take off so close to our place, throughout the day of the display people are free to to have a look around them.
We had Chinooks, Pumas, SeaKings, Lynx’, and a Belgian SAR helicopter over the years (from memory), fun times 🤙🏻
Hopefully it comes back this year 🙂 🤝
Back when things were still normal and you could do things like that without some snowflakes melting down
Sure it did skip...
I have been around Chinooks nearly my entire life: from Ft. Rucker and Ft. Hood, when I was in the Army myself, and living near the 1106th AVCRAD of the California Army National Guard. One thing I can say with ABSOLUTE certainty.....you know when one is coming. The rotor and transmission whine is different that anything else that beats the air into submission. Making a Chinook 'stealth' would be akin to making Chris Farley into an Olympic diver.
Well, at least the Chinook has a chance. Farley on the other head is dead.
@@mcinteer19 that's racist
@@mcinteer19 You can make any helicopter stealthy and low noise. Its a matter of how much changes will half to be made. In the Chinooks case it would be best to just make one from scratch based on the design and airframe and build from the ground up. Both are totally possible.
@@FalconWing1813 I’m not the one who said it cannot be done!
@@FalconWing1813 wow you must be top engineers from this planet, great information
My AC-130s were nextdoor to the 160th's Chinooks in Bagram. We did a little "show and tell" where we brought their guys onto our aircraft and toured them around and then they did the same for us. It's probably one of the most well thought-out aircraft I've seen. And there were multiple times they came back from missions shot up, but they never failed to make it back
That will teach you not to look at any ship as a sitting duck!
Was that ability, just an unintended design consequence? Because that part of your statement reminded me that, as a kid, I read how one unintended consequence of the B-17's design was that it could be shot to hell and still come back to base, and now I am curious about that aspect of the Chinook.
By the way, the venerable A-10 is another aircraft that can take a severe beating and return home.
What year were you there I was with Nightstalkers in 2001 at bagram and at the detention centre at Bagram with different agency
@@markhusseymh1 I was there a while afterwards. 2017-2018. Everyone from the maintainers up to the pilots were awesome dudes. It's easy to see that everyone in those units were the best of the best and nothing phased them
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 There's armor plating that gets added to deployed aircraft. The other big thing you see a lot of is redundant systems, especially on special operations aircraft. And third, I would chalk a lot of it up to the training and skill of those Chinook pilots.
We had one night where they took heavy small arms fire, throwing glass shards from the cockpit into the faces of the pilots. It damaged the aircraft badly and the pilots were obviously injured. But they flew for miles to a safer location before offloading the operators in the back and getting medical attention for themselves. Our AC-130s provided overwatch and fire support, so we saw some of it
Just because a design is old doesn't mean it's obsolete and/or useless
Constant updates keep it viable. Far from "obsolete". And it's still in production, so most aren't that old. Similar to the long-serving C-130 Herc.
@@lancerevell5979 They are still building C-130 Hercules, they're up to the J variant now, 2,700 total...
Look at A10 thunder ⚡!
@@deathlarsen7502look at the ma deuce!
Former Nightstalker (86-89) here, 160th was not SOAR during Mount Hope III it was SOAG.
Special Operation Aviation GROUP. There were only 7 companies that made up the group back then.
HHC company
A company (slick little birds)
B company (little bird gunships)
C and D company (Black Hawks)
E company (Chinooks) these birds participated during Mount Hope III.
F company (aviation maintenance)
Was C company armorer for two years, was part of Prime Chance in the Persian Gulf.
Like the channel but you need to fact check a little better.
Regards.
Those little bird pilots were just as crazy as the men they carried. They could hover a foot off the ground and never touch when you step on one.
So, should we thank you for your service now???
@@lewiscox9223 Only if you do it to his face.....
@@lewiscox9223 thank me? No. I was never in ( insert plucked up area ) doing ( Redacted ) “hood rat $hit. “ the pilots deserve the thanks. They are Studs.
So is everyone who supported the operations considered a night stalker? Or just the pilots?
I watched a doc on the Blackhawk and one of the pilots interviewed said it was every Blackhawk pilot's secret shame that Chinooks have to slow down to keep from leaving the Blackhawks behind.
2 rotors are better than 1, I suppose.
And Apache too
It has to do with aerodynamics and a condition called “retreating blade stall”. All single rotor helicopters are restricted by this.
However, the counter rotating blades alleviate this concern, until you get beyond the other helicopters In our inventory.
My aircraft, the OH-58 and OH-6 was limited to 120 knots, so we were the slow pokes. I can’t say , without looking it up what the other birds forward airspeeds were, but they were far in excess of my aircraft.
I still had a great time flying for the Army.
@@davidclaudy4822 thank you for an informed reply. I guess it just seems weird realizing that for helicopters, looks fast doesn't always equal goes fast.
I remember this. Chinooks would leave everyone behind and had to slow down so others could keep up.
I had the privilege of joining the 160th on multiple test flights, including terrain following runs through the mountains. This was on their previous generation MH-60s and MH-47s. Impressive aircraft and even more impressive pilots.
The only helicopter that can perform High Altitude Rescue from Mount Denali, Alaska. U S. Army CH-47F.
Crew from Ft. Wainwright, AK performed a rescue at 19,600' off North America's tallest mountain. No other helicopter can perform this mission.
that's the merit of dual lift-rotor designs, be they staged or counter rotating. Very few nations do them but the two that routinely do; the lift for size is unmatched. As is often underappreciated the manoeuvrability for attack helicopters; be it an elevation burst after a steep dive almost kissing dirt, or turning a tight circle I have zero doubt the successor to the Apache will be dual rotor.
Wasn't a Foxtrot model, highspeed. Dirty Deltas did all that. Before 714's and FADEC, too. Plus, the Kaman K-Max sets up most of the base camps, now. Sugarbears are too busy doing Big Army things.
The eurocopter the AS350B3 has landed on top of Everest and performed a rescue at 7800m that’s 25590 feet the AS350B3 has also performed a rescue on Denali
@@anasevi9456 The successor to the Apache is the V-280 Valor, so you're right. It is a dual rotor.
@@jameson1239 yes, but they have almost no useful load capacity. The Chinook can lift off at 56000 lbs total. That is 28k for itself and 28k for cargo. That's a LOT of weight, and it does it with finesse and power. There are a couple of Russian makes that can outlift it, but they can't *outrun* it. The Chinook is DAMN fast in addition to being able to carry a lot. On the deck, when I add in torque rapidly, I can climb STRAIGHT UP at over 60mph!!! That's STUPID fast. When we are at max gross, the winds coming off the rotors are the same as a category V hurricane.
- Why is my helicopter missing?
-The chinook stole it
Its amazing this design is still in operation after 61 years. Will probably see over 100 years of service.
There are zero stealth chinooks. Trust me bro...
Why does "flying over 50 mph" enable the Chinooks to stay within visual range in a sandstorm? I don't understand this statement.
The rear hatch and the engines makes it look like a shocked frog when the hatch lowers.
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I was a mechanic for this thing. It's loud, rattles like crazy, and leaks all over the place. I kinda thought it was a piece of junk until we got deployed to Afghanistan. Seeing what it was capable of and how many lives it saved changed my opinion of it. Plus for something with this many moving parts, it's surprisingly reliable, even in harsh conditions.
If you've never seen one of these in person, it is mind blowing. After hurricane Ian hit here, I saw these almost daily flying in and out of Fenway south where they were set up. One took off carrying a shipping container. Wild to see that in the sky
When a Chinook is carrying any external load from any one of its three hooks a flight engineer is on his/her belly carefully observing the load underneath through the "hell hole." As the airspeed increases it is imperative that the load rides stable without any wild oscillations. Carrying irregularly-shaped bundles such as lumber or other building material presents the greatest hazard. The pilots have a pickle button on their cyclic which will instantly open the hook and dump the load if the swinging mass underneath threatens the helicopter. Chinook pilots always attempt to fly a route over unpopulated areas should a "pickle" become mandatory. (Fortunately, I never had to jettison a load.)
I’ve been flown in 160th MH-47G’s and in MH-60’s but honestly I’ve always loved the 47’s vs the 60’s. Good video btw.
In several instances you showed a CH-46 while calling it a CH-47.
This channel does a lot of that kind of thing.
If you read the channels description of itself they explain why images are substituted.
"Both have tandem rotors, nobody'll notice...." 🙄
I caught that too
@@lancerevell5979 we noticed
As a Former 67T Blackhawk CrewChief/Mechanic we say (jokingly) “Ah the $hithook, the only aircraft capable of a midair collision with itself”!, “Looks like 2 Palm Trees, in a Hurricane, beating a dumpster”! And “If it’s not leaking fluids, you better start worrying, because it’s empty”! All joking aside, they’re one badass bird! Capable of over 200 mph and carrying a $hitton of weight!!!
Lol....I was trained on the flying hydraulic leak....and it's the only thing uglier than the A-10..... which makes them both the two most important pieces of equipment in the air
As a proud veteran as well as an American Indian, I feel awfully privileged to serve and work with awesome ingenuity. I refueled many of the USMC helicopters like the chinook 46, 47, and 53’s, cobra’s, Harrier jets and even some Army choppers. I lived on the USS Boxer LHD 4 amphibious assault ship gator class. When fully locked and loaded for war she comfortably seats a crew of 6-7k 80% are Marines hitching a ride.
Thankyou for your service.
I love this channel,but sometimes they mix up the different airframes. There are plenty of videos of the CH-47, they could have used. And yes, there is a "stealth" version, the MH-47, or "The Cow", because of the extra large fuel tanks. It has all kinds of dampers and insulation to bring the noise significantly down. Having lived and retired out of Ft.Cambell for several years, I can always tell the difference between the regular Army and the Nightstalker versions. You can barely hear it, but my house would still shake as they did practice landings at the airfield. The MH is significantly quieter than the regular version but you can't damper 6,000hp and brute force rotor wash by 5ft wide blades.
Agree -- he mixes CH-46 and CH-47 images. I flew the '46 as a Marine and later, the '47 as an Army Reservist. I know and love them both. (We had other former Marine Corps pilots in our USAR unit too, some of whom I recruited. Pilots gotta fly!)
I witnessed a silent running UH1 once when I was serving in 29 Palms, they interrupted a 6 pack of beer on a dune near our barracks, was spooky how close they got on a quiet night when suddenly they turned on their spotlight and scarred us silly, we had a good laugh. It was ultra-secret because I never saw it again, but it was real.
He claimed that the helicopter being stolen was an Mi 25, the export version of the Mi 24. That is wrong the export version of the Mi 24 is the Mi 35.
I was Air Assault for all but 4 years of my 24 year career in the Army. I have flown in Hueys, Cayuses, Blackhawks and, as we affectionately called them, Shithooks. If you ever have any loose dental work, the Shithook will shake them right out of your jaw. It was also extraordinarily LOUD. I once noticed a leaking hydraulic fitting and brought it to the Crew Chief's attention. He told me "Oh that? That's normal, but come get me quick if it _STOPS_ leaking".
I love how they keep showing pics of the CH-46 and CH-47 interchangeably. Come one Dark, forget the crayon eaters. They bought the wrong bird, and retired it already. Army bought the right one and will keep them flying for nearly 100 years!
"Shithook" for the win! Love that twin-engined flying dump truck!
Can you imagine if the Chinook and the Hercules were never designed, both are decades old but are still really integral to many countries militaries and used in so many different ways that it's uncountable.
Same with the F-16, F-15, F-18, AH-64 and just about every other aerial/ground platform in our inventory
It still looks great too, not dated.
I know someone probably asked "There's got to be a better way" & somebody or a aviation company got to work
When I was in the US Navy, a flight of Blackhawks flew over one night, maybe 150 feet off the ground. They had big flat disks above the rotors that sucked up the sound to the point you could barely hear them fly past.
These big boys sometimes fly over my house and sometimes they're flying pretty low and the sound is just incredible. It's both terrifying and amazing. Normal helicopters are loud. Chinooks are on another level. There is no mistaking this dual rotor beast. The first time one flew over it was moving low and slow. I was inside so I only heard this one, but it was very unexpected and time seemed to almost stand still like it was hovering very nearby (at least this is how it sounded). After it finally flew over my house I was almost expecting an entire platoon of army rangers to come walking out from the woods 😂
Jumped out of one, “Fun Jump” 2/505 PIR. Couldn’t count the times I flew in them. But you could tell the difference in models CH-47 vs MH-47. Maybe the night stalkers were just that good. 3/75 RGR Medic, loved those mini gun test fires😻
Best jumps I ever had were from CH-47s.
A Co 1/505 PIR
89-91
C Co 1/508 ABN INF
91-93
The Chinooks are being used to fight wildfires in California. They have a pilot names Ashli Blain who is only 19 years old.
Upside down
While she's trying to bomb the fires with water
Then take over the controls and show her how to fly properly
All while screaming out this is a lil trick I learned back in nam'
What an amazing video and what a game changer that helicopter was and still is!
I crewed on A model Hooks in 1976 at the 49th Aviation Co, Ca NG in Stockton Ca. Huge lift capability, a bit of a plumber’s nightmare with hydraulics. SAS was necessary to keep it flying straight.
I almost joined that Unit in 92'
"infested with hostile forces"
Nice way to dehumanize the enemy.
I like the Chinook, in Afghanistan it brought my platoon all over the place, especially back and forth to OPs that would have really sucked climbing up the mountainside. (not to mention the safety of them brining us in/out in the dark). When I left Army, I joined aviation unit in the guard and got to fly on Blackhawk, thing made me feel sick, Chinook was a luxury ride in comparison. (I assume two points of lift make for a smoother ride.)
I thought the ch-53 was the heavy lifter. I watched one crash lifting artillery at camp lejeune in 1984 when we were practicing at the m203 range. Couldn’t get a 100 yards from it due to the intense heat. Horrible. Went from a couple hundred Marines standing in line goofing and chattering up a storm waiting to fire the grenade launchers to complete and utter silence after the tragedy occurred. I’ll never forget feeling so helpless not being able to get close to the burning helicopter. It was so hot.
It is a heavy lifter but maybe he was focusing on the army's heavy lifter
Marines, Navy, and Air Force use the 53. Army uses the Chinook.
@@TCraig00 👌
@@jamescarter8311 👍 Understood. Thanks for the intel.
@@jamescarter8311 The boys in blue retired all their -53's over 10 years ago & converted to the CV-22.
I don't enjoy my life without the Chinooks which make logistical support as simple as pick-up-sticks.
Had a CH47 fly over my property and house about a month ago. Maybe 200 ft off the deck. I could hear it coming from a mile away. To me it sounds like a Huey this louder. Blades "beating the air". (I get a lot of military aircraft over my property. I was told because of the vastness of farm fields, it makes a good training area)
First you hear nothing than your hear the full noise
The 160th chinnys were not "stealth" like the hawks but they were electronically stealthy and had advanced ECM. One of the 2 47Gs did QRF to the compound from the FARP and they were said to be engaged by a CAP F16 which was trying to light them up but their ECM was effective.
I have to admit, I laughed at the title!! Chinook . . . secret mission . . . you can hear them ten miles away!!! Seriously, I knew it had a long history, and I recognised several of the previous types form reading about them. A very interesting edition, thank you. 👍👍👍👍
That's been the greatest thing ever regarding the TT. History, story's, riders, all. Well done guys and girls.
The MH-47 is the Backbone of SOCOM. You will probably never hear or see anything about us and that’s perfectly fine ☺️
-Me, Current MH-47 FI
NSDQ
I'm not sure the video editor knows the difference between a Chinook and a Sea Knight.
as a radio tower climber i LOVE when these do fly overs when I'm on the top of a tower. Had 6 go over me one time, I could tell I caught a pilots eye, and all 6 circled back around to wave
9:14 - How would flying at over 50 MPH keep the helicopters within visual range of each other? Either I'm missing something, or that makes no sense at all.
It probably kept them ahead of the sand storm where they would be able to still see each other.
@@robreesor5011 They normally do fly faster than 50mph anyway. I think he probably either meant they flew within 50 ft of each other to keep within visual distance or they slowed down to around 50mph to make it easier to stay together.
@@CheapSushi thats possible as well yep.
These things were infamous for the rotors flying off and crashing in the 80's. I remember a cousin's dad who was army saying most grunts were terrified to be in them.
Did you know it can land in water and float if it has to?
Only with operating engines. Without positive thrust they turn turtle.
@@jgrenwod well a flight engineer told me it could float up to 30 minutes without the engines running. If the turbines are on then it's not really floating.
They are quicker than you think. Once airborne, these things can do "up and out" maneuvers amazingly fast. Seen one recently near Bowman Field, Louisville KY.
Having Dual rotors turning in opposite directions means that it's MUCH less restricted by Retreating Blade Stall - a condition that affects EVERY helicopter as they speed up - usually restricting the speed of a single rotor craft to (usually) below 160 kts or so.
This is definitely my favorite helicopter. I wish I could afford to buy one.
My dad served in the marines during Vietnam. He was taking footage of helicopters landing on a carriers and got in trouble. This was top secret stuff back in the late 60s.
I actually laugh every time someone says "Stealth Blackhawk". 😂
You realize they shot one down? So its not a joke as they showed the some parts to it. Or at least a helicopter that we dont know of.
So, that thing you saw that they said was a tail rotor of an imaginary aircraft couldn't possibly be the main rotor of some other device, right? I mean, they TOLD US it was a Stealth Blackhawk tail rotor, so that's absolutely what it has to be, right? Yes, absolutely something struck the wall and came to rest inside the compound (not a single account anywhere says there was a "shoot down" of any kind). But what they BIP'd of the remains wasn't NEAR enough to have been an MH-60 of ANY variant. When the truth comes out, just remember how much you believed to be true, how much was actually a coverup for something else, and then understand how things really work. Which I'm guessing, deep down inside, you already know. But what would I know, I'm not even smart enough to believe everything I hear. 😉
@@heavenst.murgatroyd3128 Well here is your chance , what type of helicopter was it ? updated version of the MH-6, Note I seen the picture and the tail rotor diameter was much taller than the human standing next to it. Did not look like it would match up to the MH6. Ive flown the MD 500 and the tail rotor is very small compared to what crashed. Whats your thoughts ?
@@FalconWing1813 Unmanned, maybe, if I had to make a wild, Tom Clancy-ish guess. That was possibly the main rotor, the payload was probably snatched up and extracted in a -60 along with the body of bin Laden. If you encapsulate the main rotor on a lightweight craft, she's be quite quiet and sneaky. 🤔
Love, love the Chinook, saved our lives plenty of times while in the Middle East...
‘Wacca-wacca, freedom bird’, love these flying buses, the sweet sound of extraction😎👍
I have on several occasions witnessed Chinooks ferrying M777 artillery pieces to air shows. The sound signature is unmistakable, as it has a very distinctive lower register wop, wop, whopping sound. Newer and quieter blades would quieten but not effect the low frequency sound signature, yet it remains the only practical concession to stealth in my opinion.
Most comfortable military helicopter I ever flew in. A flying greyhound bus.
Careful, you're using some materials of the CH-46 Sea Knight, which is a US Navy platform which is much smaller and lighter for use on air carrier ops. You'll know you're looking at a CH-47 when you see 2 front landing gear assemblies, and a CH-46 if you see a single, center mounted landing gear assembly.
Right you are! The '46, although a bit slower, is sportier to fly & more maneuverable whilst the '47 never seems to run out of brute lifting power. (I flew 'em both in separate military services.) Another differentiator: CH-46 engines are internal at the base of the tail; the CH-47 engines are external and easy to spot. If you ever saw them parked next to each other, the size difference is obvious.
Bro I can't concentrate with this super awesome music, I'm mostly just vibing to the soundtrack. 10/10 would watch again
Chinook gonna make a history as century old flying helicopter to date 🚁
As a new aircraft mechanic, I would be willing to live in secret, just to do maintenance on these bad-ass aircrafts. That would be the fucking dream life right there.
With the advent of rapid prototyping, there will likely be all sorts of rare variants that nobody will ever see. Full production and tooling is not required anymore. They could literally make 4 of something or less at Groom, and never do it again. Years ago I got to see the 160th testing one of the new 47G models on the western ranges. It had some interesting boxes on it, and was in basic gray, not black. They also had a 60K.
You could probably do a whole video on the Guns A Go Go .. glad you mentioned them.
truly excellent documentary about an aircraft of great import and immediately recognizable silhouette, though not so well know. Until this video. Thank you.
Get Chinooks flying past our house quite often at night following the motorway , always run out when I hear one coming.
It always amazes me how quiet a Chinook can be when it's down low in the terrain.
As a fourth grader at Our Lady of Perpetual Help in Media PA I can remember vividly the Chinooks overflying the playground from the nearby Boeing Vertol plant, low enough for us to see the pilot's white helmet. That would have been 1964, going into the Vietnam era.
That title- I’m imagining a crew in a Chinook going around jacking parked helos for parts, leaving what’s left on cinder blocks
My brother was a flt eng on a ch47 in Vietnam -- his CH47A has been converted and is now a MH model and it flys over our house as part of the 160th SOAR.
Thump, thump, thump, thump........
There is no mistaking the sound of a Chinook. When they fly over my home, they are almost always heard, long before they are seen.
It's hard to imagine a "stealth" version, without the iconic sound signature.
I live near the 1106th AVCRAD in Fresno, there's no doubt what they are when they fly in or out. I don't even walk outside for a Black Hawk anymore, but I will for a Delta Schooner.
thanks for showing us the sketches of the modifications, they were really interesting :-/
Do not know about the chinook being stealthy but a lot of people have seen the other quiet helicopter around southern Indiana near FtKnox starting in the 80s one chased a Harrison county sheriff’s deputy and they chased it . Was on the national news as a UFO story 😅
I get to see these flying regularly in my area, they have a unique sound to them
My favorite Heli right there with the Warthog Jet.
Spent many hours flying in the CH 47. I love that aircraft
Hello, it would be nice to add subtitles with Metric system. Grettings from Portugal
The chinook is an awesome bird! I would always see them on the beach front in the south training ❤
when i was going through 15U training, i got to assist some of the instructors with the tear down of 1 of the 3 original experimental aircraft. i worked of delta and fox models.
The CH was not stealth during the B-raid ,there was only two stealth blackhawks we had the CH’s parked waiting as back up..one black hawk was crashed and we destroyed it before we left..
The 3rd stealth came in to help pick up the troops
Yep and the Pakistanis didn’t get their hands on the technology either!
Nice to see so many CH-46s in a CH-47 story.
A Chinook is also a massive influx of warm air down into a valley from a large mountain range.
When I enlisted in the Army I wanted to be a door gunner on a Helicopter this was when the Vietnam war was still active. At the last moment I change my mind with the Army recruiter and went in a differnt direction in the Army.
The Shithook is like the A-10 when it comes to sound. If one is anywhere near you, you know it!
Little known surprise is to see that a Chinook flies faster than it's escort choppers Hue,Cobra and jet Ranger...
In the Army, this one was my favorite. Roped and jumped them.
The CH-47 that pulled our HH-60 off of Mt Hood in May of 2002, was from the Pendleton Air National Guard. We trained with them for years.
“Vision Ports” - windows? 😂
My house also has vision ports.
A Gunship Chinook?
When you absolutely, positively need to ruin somebody's day.
Thank you for the History on this great two Rotor main rotor Helicopter. I went to one at the Boeing museum in Seattle at Boeing Field. I was amazed by the shaft running inside the main frame "OPEN" to rotation. That the Drive line would be exposed in the cargo bay. Just a wonderful Helicopter. I hope the tilt Rotor will NOT take this craft away.
I lived in Puget Sound for decades and flew the '46 as a Marine reservist then later, the '47 as an Army reservist out of Everett. The Army has some very skilled and experienced pilots and flight engineers with whom it was a privilege to fly. However I was amazed at how mind-numbingly slow and tortuous the acquisition process for new US Army helicopters was for potential bidders. Army was/is always a late-adopter! As a result, I predict the Chinook will reach 100 years of service . . . easy. (Before we moved out of state, I had hoped to be a docent at the Pacific Museum of Flight at Boeing Field. Been there several times.)
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Thank you for your service my Military friend
I was 6 years on a (ST) small tug. ST-2154
Out of the port of Tacoma. The Army Reserve now runs the company, my ST was built in the 1950s. The multi task tugs the Army Reserve has today are state of the art.
You'll enjoy this: in the early 1990s, one of our USAR Chinook pilots from our reserve unit at Everett got interested in learning about Army landing ships based at Tacoma. (Are they still there?) He went back east to go through the Army's "sailor school" and subsequently earned a master's license to drive those boats. Interesting career path to say the least. He is now retired. @@rp1645
The amount of pilots who watch this channel always make the comments fun,it helps balance out the”Karen’s” and” besserwissers” that usually populate the comments. 😅
What is also amazing is that big beast is also one of the fastest helicopters in the world.
When I was stationed in Panama shortly before Just Cause, it was a common sight to see Chinooks ferrying military equipment along the Panama Canal.
And they were stealth Blackhawks
I saw one the day you posted this. Was that on purpose or something? Blacked out chinook with a long fuel feeder. I didn’t hear it I looked up and saw it flying by
Not black but a dark green low IR reflective paint. The refueling probe tells you it was an MH-47 special missions helo
Carrying TANKS .great in depth research.
Everything with tracks is a "tank" /:
You spent an uncomfortable amount of time telling me about "CH-47s" but showing me video clips of CH-46s...that the Army didn't have.
Also the Neptune Spear mission had the modified "Stealth Hawks" but "regular" 160th CH-47Ms. Like someone else said, its literally impossible to make them "stealth".
Great video. Chinooks hauled my Marine brother around Viet Nam. He is very fond of them.
The 160th uses a grass airstrip a block from my house in Kentucky as a way-point. One night I stepped outside and I saw 7 Chinooks flying at 100' with only their green slime-lights (formation lights) on. While they were loud when right in front of you, the sound attenuated extremely quickly . So I may have heard each Chinook for 5 seconds at most.