Mooie video! Zag laatst al foto's voorbij komen op facebook toen de machine nog omgebouwd werd (bijna klaar was, kappen zaten er alleen nog niet op), en nu dus in actie. Mooi spul daar!
Great video, never scene this kind of machine before. What a true innovator the person who came up with this design, as labour appears to more of a struggle this idea could save one or two labour units.🌞😀🌞😀🌞😀🌞😀🌞😀🌞😀
@@alfa85star yes but you earn that time back and way more if its more than say 5 miles from the field to the silo. notice at 5:04 the truck transporting the containers back and forth carry 2 containers a time on the road... you would need a very hard dry field for that ROAD TRUCK to be able to drive fully loaded with 2 fully loaded containers in the field without getting stuck. hehe
@@alfa85star less time in man hours (and engine hours) than having several tractors driving to keep up and take the load, overload it into trucks, and the trucks take it away. Instead the harvester drops off full containers at a place where the truck picks them up (the same truck that brings the empty containers back to be filled again).
Oh man, I was hoping we'd see a bit more of the process after harvesting! Great machine, must be one hell of an axle to carry all that weight of the missing back wheels!
Type Hartog Abbekerk. They do much the same. Inside the plant/factory, is a huge drum/cylinder that lays on its side and rotates slowly. the wall of the cylinder is more holes than wall and hot air is pushed through from underneath. The cylinder has a slight drop in it, the material is dropped in at the high end and after 10 to 20 spins it makes it way to the other end and falls out.. That is essentially a drying cycle. After that, often the material is pressed into pellets and bagged or delivered in bulk. The owner, Wil Hartog, was a bike racer in his day and raced against the likes of Barry Sheene and Kenny Roberts.
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Another great video-story from start to finish with all the important details shown for us *_armchair mechanics and inventors._* Nice music when the machine is too far away to hear it.
Merci, thank you and WELL DONE, beautifully-crafted (& filmed) video. Quite interesting AND informative. P.S. I liked watching the seagulls following along.
it would be wonderful to see video from building and welding this machines. I admire Your country, Farmers, agragations ideas, open minds, Greetings from Poland Tractorspotter
Awsome work! This is the first video that I watched "live" since I've subscribed. I've been binge watching your videos and now I'm watching videos from 2016 I believe.
I am always fascinated on how you turned something into many kind of dishes. They are so mouth watering 🤤! And it's an honor to have you visit our channel, we can discuss more about our experiences in harvesting and building farms.
Curious as to the use for the alfalfa here. Cutting it awful late in the growth stage. Typically, it is cut in the "bud" stage, before it flowers. Then it has the best balance of nutrients and yield. The setup would work on a small operation where only a couple people are available to work. In our region, this would be near impossible to do. There are too short of weather windows and the crop needs to get cut and chopped as fast as possible before it gets rained on.
This is not just regular silage production. This is about drying to get dry pallets of your own crop. Farmers sometimes want a separate product, of a different quality, here with high proteïn content and some cellulose in it, apart from silage, greenmaize or grass. This is dried alfalfa and put in small pallets. This can easily and long be stored as it has been very dry, like regular pallets (concentrate). This can be put in a silo and daily be feeded to the cows or in a cattle feed mixer cart throughout the year.
@@corgraveland4874while this may be for pellet products, it still begs the question "why harvest after full bloom?". If a high protein pellet is desired, harvest should be during the pre bud stage. Protein content drops off significantly after pre bud. If the goal is stem and yield, great...full bloom is the route to go
@@@user-jq1nn3ut5s Thanks! Right, totally agree with your statement. We can ask the compilers of the video and hopefully get to the farmers themselves to see why this was decided to do the harvest in a late stage of the crop.
@@casperscheerstra Right! So, most of the Lucerne / Alfalfa Silage after harvest, transport, drying and pelleting returns to the farm itself or will be traded to other farmers.
Is this a custom-made adaptation of a regular model? Is it hydrostatic drive to the rear wheels? What's the advantage of doing that rather than the usual arrangement of tractors and trailers shuttling back and forth?
Use of trucks, since it goes away off the farm to a drying factory. Trucks can carry more load and faster. The original rear axle drive, hydrostatic, now drives new rear section. Mainly it saves on a few drivers and machinery as fewer trucks can keep up easier than tractors and trailers.
Tractorspotter then why the video of the farm with exhaust stacks? Surely that is a biogas plant...only idiots would chop alfalfa that mature for cows. Once its in bloom feed value decreases every day!
@@crazyhass84 In the description one can find the details: the Dutch company Timmerman, kind a similar to company Hartog Abbekerk is specialised in drying lucerne (alfalfa) & grass in this drying plant for animal feed (No biogas is produced whatsoever). It might that even natural gas is used in the drying process. Alex Veldhuis explained that well: Inside the plant/factory, is a huge drum/cylinder that lays on its side and rotates slowly in which the product is dried. The exhaust stacks thus are not at the farm but 50 miles away at the dryer plant. After drying, the resulting product is pelleted, pressed in (small) pellets that is put in bags or delivered in bulk and send in trucks.
Toon Mertens you know the company? They only have this one field? If they only have such short distances, this is the cheaper solution, that is true. Only one machine with one guy operating it.
I was wondering the same thing about driving back to that parking area. But i wonder if he needs to drop it on a solid surface. Maybe the load is to heavy for the field surface. Just a theory 😁
good poitnt,,, notice the standard roadtrain coming with 2 empty containers... it would easyly get stuck in a field.. so my guess the plase where he sets the containers isnt the end of the journey..... here in norway many farmers lease fields miles away from their man farm as they grow.
it all depends on how far the field is from the silo! notice the road truck at 5:04 carrying 2 containers.. if its more than say 50 miles to the silo standard tractors even if they was able going 40 mph would use much more time and fuel pulling 1 and 1 wagons back and forth.
George Pikoulis That system is designed for long distance haulage. In the video you’ll notice a truck arriving with a trailer attached. It’s able to transport 2 containers by road over longer distances. In the Netherlands (like most of Europe) the ground is too soft to support trucks in the field.
Main aim here is to have only low ground pressure abled vehicles on the field, for one. That then ties in with the idea of minimal on field traffic. Then combine those requirements with quite a bit of on road distance travel, since they need to bring the material to their drying plant, not simply to the client's yard, and immediately it is obvious that carting 2 bins at a time is obviously a cost saving to carting one. Once you start calculating the cost of damage done to the soil, the chopper not chopping is not losing money in the way that you think. Also, 3 operators in the team is 3 wages, no more. Lucerne is a fragile crop and can be harvested a number of times, but it is easily damaged and dies, leaving areas where nothing grows back. Anyway, they're out there doing it this way, a method that has developed over the years, but what would they know.
>that moment when u see a belt conveyor up when cutterr work just to show another maschine that do almost that same work that may be done ot first run...
True, that techincally could be done in one run with the two Krone mowers mounted upfront and the second behind the Fendt. But I guess they wanted to have the product, the Lucerne / Alfalfa, dried more by the sun. This means it is less effort and cost to dry further in the factory.
If I was running that operation I would put empty cartons in the field so the driver doesn't have to drive back all the time.. Like they say Time is Money!
seems like a huge amount of cost/resources needed to get this feed where it needs to go. What will it be used for, and what is the cost per ton to produce it?
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Mooie video! Zag laatst al foto's voorbij komen op facebook toen de machine nog omgebouwd werd (bijna klaar was, kappen zaten er alleen nog niet op), en nu dus in actie. Mooi spul daar!
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Great video, never scene this kind of machine before. What a true innovator the person who came up with this design, as labour appears to more of a struggle this idea could save one or two labour units.🌞😀🌞😀🌞😀🌞😀🌞😀🌞😀
Those portable bins are handy, only need one person to harvest.
But changing take some time
@@alfa85star yes but you earn that time back and way more if its more than say 5 miles from the field to the silo.
notice at 5:04 the truck transporting the containers back and forth carry 2 containers a time on the road...
you would need a very hard dry field for that ROAD TRUCK to be able to drive fully loaded with 2 fully loaded containers in the field without getting stuck. hehe
@@alfa85star less time in man hours (and engine hours) than having several tractors driving to keep up and take the load, overload it into trucks, and the trucks take it away.
Instead the harvester drops off full containers at a place where the truck picks them up (the same truck that brings the empty containers back to be filled again).
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Oh man, I was hoping we'd see a bit more of the process after harvesting! Great machine, must be one hell of an axle to carry all that weight of the missing back wheels!
Type Hartog Abbekerk. They do much the same. Inside the plant/factory, is a huge drum/cylinder that lays on its side and rotates slowly. the wall of the cylinder is more holes than wall and hot air is pushed through from underneath. The cylinder has a slight drop in it, the material is dropped in at the high end and after 10 to 20 spins it makes it way to the other end and falls out.. That is essentially a drying cycle. After that, often the material is pressed into pellets and bagged or delivered in bulk. The owner, Wil Hartog, was a bike racer in his day and raced against the likes of Barry Sheene and Kenny Roberts.
what a waste of money.
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What a cool machine, I love how they painted the grab arm deere yellow.
Awesome video! Thanks for posting!
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Great video and Awesome machine!! Greets Stefan
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Landtechnik MV war ja nur ein kleiner Spaß denn bei vielen cabviews etc. Die ich schaue sehe ich halt dich in den Kommentaren und denke mir dann das nicht nur ich mir gerne "cabviews" oder generell landwirtschaftliche Dinge anschau sonder es auch noch mehr so Leute gibt! War Oberhaupt nicht böse gemeint im Gegenteil !
Another great video-story from start to finish with all the important details shown for us *_armchair mechanics and inventors._* Nice music when the machine is too far away to hear it.
Merci, thank you and WELL DONE, beautifully-crafted (& filmed) video. Quite interesting AND informative. P.S. I liked watching the seagulls following along.
I love Dutch farming ! Masterpiece.
Great video! Nice John Deere
Love the way you film these.
The forage harvester is a beast !!!
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Nice job!
Pretty cool
it would be wonderful to see video from building and welding this machines. I admire Your country, Farmers, agragations ideas, open minds, Greetings from Poland Tractorspotter
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Awsome work! This is the first video that I watched "live" since I've subscribed. I've been binge watching your videos and now I'm watching videos from 2016 I believe.
Thank You!
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Beautiful vidéo ,beautiful machine. Thank you for this 👍👍👍👌😍😍😍😍😗😗
Very nice video ! You deserve many more subscribers ;)
Nice Video !
I am always fascinated on how you turned something into many kind of dishes. They are so mouth watering 🤤! And it's an honor to have you visit our channel, we can discuss more about our experiences in harvesting and building farms.
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Awesome! It's always cool to see so powerful and complicated equipment in use :)
Amazing machine! 👏🏻
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Fantastic video. I need this in Farming Simulator
Congrats there is one coming
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I am quite impressed how underneath articulate joint can withstand weight force there, nice video..
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nice video!!!
Eu gosto de ver essas máquinas trabalhando e lindo demais
C'est énorme impressionnant
Curious as to the use for the alfalfa here. Cutting it awful late in the growth stage. Typically, it is cut in the "bud" stage, before it flowers. Then it has the best balance of nutrients and yield.
The setup would work on a small operation where only a couple people are available to work. In our region, this would be near impossible to do. There are too short of weather windows and the crop needs to get cut and chopped as fast as possible before it gets rained on.
This is not just regular silage production. This is about drying to get dry pallets of your own crop. Farmers sometimes want a separate product, of a different quality, here with high proteïn content and some cellulose in it, apart from silage, greenmaize or grass. This is dried alfalfa and put in small pallets. This can easily and long be stored as it has been very dry, like regular pallets (concentrate). This can be put in a silo and daily be feeded to the cows or in a cattle feed mixer cart throughout the year.
@@corgraveland4874while this may be for pellet products, it still begs the question "why harvest after full bloom?". If a high protein pellet is desired, harvest should be during the pre bud stage. Protein content drops off significantly after pre bud. If the goal is stem and yield, great...full bloom is the route to go
@@@user-jq1nn3ut5s Thanks! Right, totally agree with your statement. We can ask the compilers of the video and hopefully get to the farmers themselves to see why this was decided to do the harvest in a late stage of the crop.
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These guys have the same last name as me and I’m all the way in the USA
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What! It actually exists! You can now get it in Farming Simulator 19
Well done presentation. Nice machinery, fields & crop. Happy Critters.
That’s pretty smart idea
I couldn't help but feel like a Gordon Ramsey for my cattle with feed like that
Super machine
This is what you call the real life farming simulator.
And now FS19 has this as a mod:)
Very cool machine but what exactly is it's point?
Very cool
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*It's great to see my favorite farm machinery again, but which one is the best fit for large-scale commercial farming in your video?*
Nice set up but it just seems like a whole lot of unnecessary hassle taking the trailers back and forth on the choppers all the time
not really
This alfalfa wont be fed to the milkcows but processed to bag feed to sel in animal stores
@@sanderjansen5632 Ok, petfood! So, high value product these days👍
@@corgraveland4874 cow food not pet food
@@casperscheerstra Right! So, most of the Lucerne / Alfalfa Silage after harvest, transport, drying and pelleting returns to the farm itself or will be traded to other farmers.
nice
Is this a custom-made adaptation of a regular model? Is it hydrostatic drive to the rear wheels? What's the advantage of doing that rather than the usual arrangement of tractors and trailers shuttling back and forth?
Use of trucks, since it goes away off the farm to a drying factory. Trucks can carry more load and faster. The original rear axle drive, hydrostatic, now drives new rear section. Mainly it saves on a few drivers and machinery as fewer trucks can keep up easier than tractors and trailers.
Kan dit ook weer makkelijk weer omgebouwd worden naar een gewone hakselaar?
Of blijft dit gewoon zo zitten voor altijd?
Blijft zo
Great video! But what are the seagulls looking for when stalking the tractor?
Another great Video. Thank you for shareing. Question: What did they do with this kind of silage? Biological Gas?
Its primary use is as feed for high-producing dairy cows, because of its high protein content and highly digestible fiber.
Tractorspotter then why the video of the farm with exhaust stacks? Surely that is a biogas plant...only idiots would chop alfalfa that mature for cows. Once its in bloom feed value decreases every day!
Andy Hass the exhaust stacks are from the drying installation. The crop is dried over there and then pressed in bales
Over-production of dairy products, dumped on the African marked
@@crazyhass84 In the description one can find the details: the Dutch company Timmerman, kind a similar to company Hartog Abbekerk is specialised in drying lucerne (alfalfa) & grass in this drying plant for animal feed (No biogas is produced whatsoever). It might that even natural gas is used in the drying process.
Alex Veldhuis explained that well: Inside the plant/factory, is a huge drum/cylinder that lays on its side and rotates slowly in which the product is dried.
The exhaust stacks thus are not at the farm but 50 miles away at the dryer plant. After drying, the resulting product is pelleted, pressed in (small) pellets that is put in bags or delivered in bulk and send in trucks.
isn't it kind of a waste, letting the harvester drive the containers back to the farm?
why not two tracktors with hook lift trailers?
Elmalab why would they the field is next to the farm
Toon Mertens you know the company?
They only have this one field?
If they only have such short distances, this is the cheaper solution, that is true. Only one machine with one guy operating it.
Elmalab no I don't but if the field is further away from the farm then they probably use another tractor to transport the containers back to the farm.
I was wondering the same thing about driving back to that parking area. But i wonder if he needs to drop it on a solid surface. Maybe the load is to heavy for the field surface. Just a theory 😁
good poitnt,,, notice the standard roadtrain coming with 2 empty containers... it would easyly get stuck in a field.. so my guess the plase where he sets the containers isnt the end of the journey.....
here in norway many farmers lease fields miles away from their man farm as they grow.
Great video....Awesome machinery
That looks like an insane hassle compared to just having wagon drivers.
it all depends on how far the field is from the silo! notice the road truck at 5:04 carrying 2 containers..
if its more than say 50 miles to the silo standard tractors even if they was able going 40 mph would use much more time and fuel pulling 1 and 1 wagons back and forth.
The crop is taken off the farm, to be dried. Don't compare this to conventional silage making, where you bring it to your own yard/pit area.
@@samkom33 and you don't need 3-4 tractors driving to keep up with the forage machine. Saves manpower, which is expensive.
@@samkom33 and alfalfa is harvested multiple times so you do want to limit your field passes
This is a great modification but I cannot understand why is it not better or easier to just pull a normal trailer with the forager?
George Pikoulis That system is designed for long distance haulage. In the video you’ll notice a truck arriving with a trailer attached. It’s able to transport 2 containers by road over longer distances. In the Netherlands (like most of Europe) the ground is too soft to support trucks in the field.
@@hughmarcus1 Thanks for the insight!
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Kan iemand mij hier vertellen waar je als particulier luzernezaad kunt kopen?
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clover i would like to get a silage bale of clover not seen it in germany
Why not just have a forage truck next to the chopper. The chopper leaving the field that's insane. If the chopper not chopping tour losing money.
the one in the first minute of the video? & is the forage truck the one that picks up the grass?
@@TheRhemak the chopper still has to stop drop the box back up to a new box. This system is taking way to much time.
I didn't get the reasoning for this either. Seems expensive plus inefficient.
I guess it saves investing in one or multiple forage trucks
Main aim here is to have only low ground pressure abled vehicles on the field, for one. That then ties in with the idea of minimal on field traffic. Then combine those requirements with quite a bit of on road distance travel, since they need to bring the material to their drying plant, not simply to the client's yard, and immediately it is obvious that carting 2 bins at a time is obviously a cost saving to carting one. Once you start calculating the cost of damage done to the soil, the chopper not chopping is not losing money in the way that you think. Also, 3 operators in the team is 3 wages, no more. Lucerne is a fragile crop and can be harvested a number of times, but it is easily damaged and dies, leaving areas where nothing grows back. Anyway, they're out there doing it this way, a method that has developed over the years, but what would they know.
Didn't claas and new Holland already do this??
Yes thats correct, you can find different video's on my channel of similar NH and Claas forage harvester converted to container carrier's.
>that moment when u see a belt conveyor up when cutterr work just to show another maschine that do almost that same work that may be done ot first run...
True, that techincally could be done in one run with the two Krone mowers mounted upfront and the second behind the Fendt.
But I guess they wanted to have the product, the Lucerne / Alfalfa, dried more by the sun. This means it is less effort and cost to dry further in the factory.
mooie presentatie. Waarom John Deere? Voorheen een systeem van Claas gezien
Zijn verschillende merken.hun begonnen met een Heston mid jaren 80
Can someone explain how the harvester has no back wheels
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Looks so weird without rear wheels :D
If I was running that operation I would put empty cartons in the field so the driver doesn't have to drive back all the time.. Like they say Time is Money!
Est-ce que c'est normal que la luzerne soit en fleurs ?
pour pérenner la Luzerne il faut la laisser fleurir une coupe par année...pour faire des réserves... sinon elle disparait petit à petit...
Whats the point in this? Why not leave the rear axel and just hitch up any Trailer?
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why are the seagull's following the truck? If they're going after the plant, why wouldn't they just land on a pile of it?
the seagulls are looking for an easy snack! say earthworms ore mouse that the maskine kill ore dig up
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I didn't know this existed outside of farming simulator. @2:29
😂 Your not a farm boy then. What a Haither. 1) cow 2) new mother 3) male cattle. Answer it
What kind of power plant is being fed?
None, It's a dehydration plant for alfalfa to make feed (either pelletized or baled)
Johan Bos interesting, thanks.
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Where can i buy a machine like that?
Why not use tractors and wagons?
Вот если лемех поймает в сколько ремонт обойдётся?
Wo läuft der Häcksler in den Niederlanden?
Kortgene, Zeeland in the South-West part.
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seems like a huge amount of cost/resources needed to get this feed where it needs to go. What will it be used for, and what is the cost per ton to produce it?
To much time wasted dealing with the container, especially if rain is on the way
The grass is dried in a separate process inside of a plant which (i guess) makes it less pressing.