Love the missing fragment in the general's body. In puts in value the bullet's trajectory, literally slicing the canvas, erasing the painting, like death erasing life. Degas kind of unintentionally created a contemporary artwork.
At 5:25, you make a mistake when using a french idiom: It is written "Coup de gras" whereas the correct spelling is "Coup de grâce". It is quite funny because "Coup de gras" would translate into "Fat strike". "Coup de grâce" on the other hand means "last blow" and verbatim "Strike of mercy". Great video though !
"le coup de GRÂCE": it's ALWAYS the finishing strike. because the victim could still be alive but heavily wounded, the coup de grâce is there to avoid a long and painful agony. which is why it is called "giving grace".
The two guys being shot besides Maximilian are Miguel Miramón and Tomás Mejía, two conservative Mexican generals allied to Maximilian and the Second Empire. Awesome work with this channel buddy, I'm really digging your approach and commentary. Cheers!
I so agree with your conclusions! when I used to paint my teacher liked to ask to all the students to comment on each and every painting. the question was always: what do you understand and what do you feel in front of this canvas? this always ended in a fierce negotiation between the viewers and the painter, the first ones depicting what they "saw", the second what he/she intended to express. every time my turn came, I just listened, and when asked the question: "but what did you intended to show?" my answer was "it doesn't matter". and most of the time, people saw very much more in my paintings than what I intended to show. so much more!
As a mexican student I remember that the last version of the painting apears on the history book. It was really interesting to know that there are (at least) two previous versions of the painting. The reason why Benito Juárez even tho Maximiliano (that's how you say the name un spanish, I'm not sure of how to write it in english) had similar political ideas, killed him, was because he needed to make a statement to anyone that wanted to get with México again. Maximiliano by the way really fell in love with the country, people, traditions, food, everything, reason why he stayed and while he's being executed he's wearing a sombrero, because he asked for it. The story says that he liked to dress like a charro, so it was a funny contrast of a tall, blonde, thin european guy on a charro suit
Small correction Napoléon the third was emperor of the French not france, it was done like this because to show the love for the people of French , also done by Napoléon the first.
Rather than asking you a question I just would like to thank you for fuelling a new found passion for art history specifically. Also when I watch other art history videos I find no interest what so ever. But when I watch your videos I find it really easy to focus and find the interpretation you voice very, very interesting.. once again thank you 😅
The second version of the painting in its collage form reminds me of a film in a sense. I can imagine that each individual piece of the painting is a shot from a film, showing the different angles and perspectives of the event and with it being a painting and the pieces being split up, I see each induvial piece as a shot or a cut of a scene in a film depicted though a painting.
Although not intentional, I agree with you. The bits and pieces that make up the greater whole seem as if those were the only moments you remember from a distant memory. The hands, the faces, the solder to deliver the final blow, all remind me of thinking of a traumatic experience from long ago, not just seeing the entire memory, but pieces that would have stuck with the person. A true masterpiece
New subscriber here, ur explanation of each work of art is what causes me to keep coming back to ur channel. I’m grateful for ur insight and am pleased ur base is growing so quickly. There r hints to ur leanings in life in each one which mostly lead me to believe we would disagree on quite a bit but ur work in these vids also show that ur insights r valuable and will teach thousands of us to derive our own interpretations. Thanks for this and hope u keep this up
This video mentioning 20k subs is 2 months old now. You now have 43k subs while I watch it. So glad to see your channel growing faster, I've been binging this content for a few days. Love it
This video is a wonderful (though perhaps accidental) championing of sequential art, better known as comic book art. By their very nature, comic books piece together their stories in fragmented panels, not unlike Degas' piecing together the fragments of Manet's painting. An excellent introduction to this form of art is Scott McCloud's "Understanding Comics."
Your videos are Brilliant. I'm reminded of my first Art History class some 55 years ago. Don't stop your amazing story telling; how do you do it? ...Newk from Kentucky TY
Could you comment on El Greco, please. The piece owned by my childhood museum, the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, is so loose, so "impressionistic", it really moves me. It shows a large male figure in the foreground with a hill town, perhaps Toledo, in the right background. I am not finding that exact image online, but have also seen his "Toledo" in a traveling show. I know he has executed many more "tight" renderings, but his looseness and brushiness seems so prescient for the 15 and 1600's. Thanks so much for your videos. I look forward to seeing your vids about the artists in residence. Good Fortune.
I find the frame in the bottom left to show human compassion agaist the chaos of political change, the body language combined with the general's face on top implies he chose to look the executioners in the eyes so the emperor didnt have to. I may get a digital copy.
Thank you for making the film and posting the video. Could you add the details, including the current locations of these works? Date they were painted, and which museum or gallery has them (or private collection)? References to your video will also be useful: it is educational, but it is missing your source references. Would you consider adding in the description? THANK YOU again (I am a new subscriber). Loli
It's somehow like there's a painting by Delacroix suppossingly depicting Chopin playing piano and George Sand standing by him, the work is also just fragments but still fascinating to watch.
This was interessting. I can see Manets last version whenever I feel like. It‘s in the city I live, the Kunsthalle Mannheim. Yes it is a highly political picture and Manet really did not care a Maximilian as a person. The firing squad are dressed as French soldiers. Maximilian is wearing a sombrero, the had cover of a peasant, the emperor would have never worn that. The story: the French emperor kills the republic and the working people. I did not know about the Degas version, I’m sure it got mentioned in the Kunsthalle. I sure forgot about it.
Great video, very informative and well edited ! 👍 But it is "coup de grâce" ("merciful hit" , meaning the killing stroke). "Coup de gras" would litteraly mean "a hit of fat" which made me laugh and kind of distracted me from your explanations for a moment 😁. Keep up the great work, you are a true professional ! We need more beautiful informative and artistic content such as yours. Also, in the 90's a French TV series called "palettes" did this kind of thing in great detail, if you speak French it is definitely worth checking out.
Once I was seated before a great Manet painting of execution of Maximilian, sketching it. Some tall gal entered the quiet gallery and sat next to me, saying nothing. In later times I surmised that maybe she thought museums are a decent place to meet a guy. It was awkward. I kept sketching, since that was what I was doing. Neither of us said a word. I don't necessarily believe in "cheap opportunism", and was never any good anyway at interjecting small talk. To those still reading this, guess what? It ends like all my other stories end! Nothing happened! (Incidentally, I own a copy of that wonderful early Degas self portrait --- the etching).
I think another great aspect of it, i think, is that it could represent how Napoleon was trying to censor the event or information surrounding it. It is very simiar to what you stated, we don't get to see the "whole picture" because we weren't there like the French people, or Manet. And even then, to restate what you said, if you were there, it would happen so fast that you are only able to focus on certain things of the scene or remember certain things of that scene, so again, not getting the full picture.
I see it a little differently. "The Third of May" depicts the slaughter of Spanish peasants by occupying French soldiers, in reprisal for the events of the previous day. It is almost the exact opposite of "The Execution," Manet's depiction of the death of a monarch at the hands of the people he sought to rule. Goya's painting suggests shame at the killing of groups of people the soldiers are conquering - it is done in the night, the soldiers faces are averted, the central figure in the murder is brightly lit - arms spread wide, while the priest next to him, also about to die in the volley of fire, prays. In "The Execution," the soldiers are the central figures and do not seem to avert their faces from the viewer but instead to focus on their targets. Maximilian has no expression that calls to the viewer. Importantly, I think, the soldier preparing the coup de grace represents that this is a legitimate execution, as his purpose is to end needless suffering if required. The is no such consideration for the victims in "The Third of May;" these are reprisal killings.
Twice. What about the uniforms, and the white sashes making a clear capital F? I could be thinking's too hard, but I thought for sure that would have been something brought up as far as an underlying something or other. I adore this channel and it's content, but I think I'll take an aspirin....😀
Being part of a firing squad for an execution in a time of war is not "comitting a murder". I know it's hard to understand for millenials, but that is one of the points that make civilization understandable. Ho, and on the right side of the Channel, we say "coup de grâce", which means "mercy shot". "Coup de gras" does not mean nothing. Gras, was the name of a reglementary issued french miiltary rifle, named after the engineer who proposed it to the ministry of defence. BUT, The Gras rifle was never used to deliver the "coup de grâce", as it's always an officer's task, performed with a handgun. Gras is "fat", in french, so "coup de gras" seems a bit strange. Just as if you wanted to terminate the prisoner's life through a very calorific diet.
Hello. Usually I don't have anything to say against your videos, who are wonderfully written and masterfully shot, but this one just has a small problem with your usually admirable knowledge of French: there's no "coup de gras" (FAT blow) but a "coup de GRÂCE" (mercy blow). Sorry, not a very pertinent comment, but you didn't only say it, you also wrote it...
@@ericktellez7632 wouldn't it be silly for a Frenchman to argue in English about the relevance of French with a random user, who could also be a native French speaker, judging by his family name?
I really really REALLY wish creators on RUclips would stop misusing the word murder. "Murder" is a legal term regarding an unlawful homicide => the killing of a human. As such the 1808 painting probably (I don't know the history of the event) was probably a legally sanctioned execution. As such Henry the VIII murdered no one. His homicides may have been unethical but they were legal. You may disagree with a legal ruling, you may find it immoral, but it was still legal under the process of LAW in the place it took place. The word you should be using is homicide, not murder. Now you know.
Napoléon 3 also wanted to support the Confederacy at the beginning of US Civil War... but he was afraid for economic reasons to alienate the Union... he did hesitate... and then renounced 😀... Napoléon 3 was so bad at international politics that it did cost him his empire. 😀
Congrats on reaching 20K. This is an amazing accomplishment. I am enjoying each an every one of your videos. Brilliant work! Keep it up
Thank you so much! That's incredibly generous!
wow 20K was only 3 months ago? he’s already at over 200K now that’s crazy
@@Hello-zi4bj thinking the same thing lol.
@@Hello-zi4bj 300k in 5
Love the missing fragment in the general's body. In puts in value the bullet's trajectory, literally slicing the canvas, erasing the painting, like death erasing life. Degas kind of unintentionally created a contemporary artwork.
Was thinking exactly this
This honestly looks a lot like what comic books have been doibg for so long. It's beautiful.
This is was one of my favourite videos! Congrats on the 20k!
Thanks!
At 5:25, you make a mistake when using a french idiom: It is written "Coup de gras" whereas the correct spelling is "Coup de grâce".
It is quite funny because "Coup de gras" would translate into "Fat strike".
"Coup de grâce" on the other hand means "last blow" and verbatim "Strike of mercy".
Great video though !
hahaha woops! Thanks for pointing it out!
I just heard this myself, more important now not to overpronounce French words, empty snobbery.
i didn't know about Coup de grace and thought this soldier refused to shoot. you know, like an act of pacifism
Please consider one thing. His computer for sure has an US/English keyboard so doing French special characters is cumbesome.
Thanks. New to the channel and respect your courageous disclosure of personal interpretation rather than just boiler plate art history.
"le coup de GRÂCE": it's ALWAYS the finishing strike. because the victim could still be alive but heavily wounded, the coup de grâce is there to avoid a long and painful agony. which is why it is called "giving grace".
amazing content creator thank you for everything i’ve learnt from you
Discovered your channel last night and I already love it,, keep up the great work!
There is a reason why you have become my favorite art critique channel: alway thought provoking. Keep up the great work.
The two guys being shot besides Maximilian are Miguel Miramón and Tomás Mejía, two conservative Mexican generals allied to Maximilian and the Second Empire. Awesome work with this channel buddy, I'm really digging your approach and commentary. Cheers!
I so agree with your conclusions! when I used to paint my teacher liked to ask to all the students to comment on each and every painting. the question was always: what do you understand and what do you feel in front of this canvas? this always ended in a fierce negotiation between the viewers and the painter, the first ones depicting what they "saw", the second what he/she intended to express. every time my turn came, I just listened, and when asked the question: "but what did you intended to show?" my answer was "it doesn't matter".
and most of the time, people saw very much more in my paintings than what I intended to show. so much more!
Congrats on 20k! It's been a true pleasure following your work from (nearly) the start.
Your voice is perfect for the medium. I love your videos. Thank you for your work.
As a mexican student I remember that the last version of the painting apears on the history book. It was really interesting to know that there are (at least) two previous versions of the painting.
The reason why Benito Juárez even tho Maximiliano (that's how you say the name un spanish, I'm not sure of how to write it in english) had similar political ideas, killed him, was because he needed to make a statement to anyone that wanted to get with México again. Maximiliano by the way really fell in love with the country, people, traditions, food, everything, reason why he stayed and while he's being executed he's wearing a sombrero, because he asked for it. The story says that he liked to dress like a charro, so it was a funny contrast of a tall, blonde, thin european guy on a charro suit
Small correction Napoléon the third was emperor of the French not france, it was done like this because to show the love for the people of French , also done by Napoléon the first.
Terrific channel! Thank you for doing what you do!
New to art appreciation and your channel is so helpful in learning how to enjoy art thoroughly. Thank you!
Also the narrative in this video is a masterpiece.
RUclips recomended me this video and I loved it, I'm definitely subscribing, congratulations on your 20k!
I'm not gonna lie, the final painting feels like a Rene Magritte artwork with the surrealist aspects removed.
as a broke student, i unfortunately cant superthank this channel but i sure can superlike it and superrecommend it to my entourage and teachers
Rather than asking you a question I just would like to thank you for fuelling a new found passion for art history specifically. Also when I watch other art history videos I find no interest what so ever. But when I watch your videos I find it really easy to focus and find the interpretation you voice very, very interesting.. once again thank you 😅
The second version of the painting in its collage form reminds me of a film in a sense. I can imagine that each individual piece of the painting is a shot from a film, showing the different angles and perspectives of the event and with it being a painting and the pieces being split up, I see each induvial piece as a shot or a cut of a scene in a film depicted though a painting.
Although not intentional, I agree with you. The bits and pieces that make up the greater whole seem as if those were the only moments you remember from a distant memory. The hands, the faces, the solder to deliver the final blow, all remind me of thinking of a traumatic experience from long ago, not just seeing the entire memory, but pieces that would have stuck with the person. A true masterpiece
New subscriber here, ur explanation of each work of art is what causes me to keep coming back to ur channel. I’m grateful for ur insight and am pleased ur base is growing so quickly. There r hints to ur leanings in life in each one which mostly lead me to believe we would disagree on quite a bit but ur work in these vids also show that ur insights r valuable and will teach thousands of us to derive our own interpretations. Thanks for this and hope u keep this up
Absolutely splendid commentary! Very inspiring.
I will say, the firing squad with sombreros does go hard
When the mariachi band doesn't get paid.
@@mattthedoormat when you say latinx to a Mexican
@@feeble_goblin3764 Oh that works even better!
This video mentioning 20k subs is 2 months old now. You now have 43k subs while I watch it. So glad to see your channel growing faster, I've been binging this content for a few days. Love it
Up to 58k now I'm loving the progress
Now he’s at 200k!
Thank you for making these videos.
No problem! I love making them!
This is absolutely amazing, I love how it has a modern feel because it has the dynamic of a comic but it is painted very classically
i owe you my new passion for art, thanks!!!! btw, awesome video! greeting from Colombia
That's an incredibly kind comment! I'm glad to have read it! Thank you Juan!
captivating as always
Thank you!!
3 month ago it was 20K and now 230K !!????? What a fast growing channel 🙌🙌🙌👍👍keep up the good work💖!!
The Canvas: VERY INTERESTING video!
it's like the death of the author says, the meaning the finished piece gives the audience is more important than the intended effect of the author
congrats to manet and degas for making the first comic
Excellent. I love your videos.
Thank you :)
This video is a wonderful (though perhaps accidental) championing of sequential art, better known as comic book art. By their very nature, comic books piece together their stories in fragmented panels, not unlike Degas' piecing together the fragments of Manet's painting. An excellent introduction to this form of art is Scott McCloud's "Understanding Comics."
loved it!
Its like a comic page with great panelling
No way this channel had 20k followers back in may. Also 300k already? I remembered 200k just a little bit ago
These videos are amazing
you dont like the painting, you like the way the cutting up of the painting reminds you of a great movie.
Merci !
Great video!!
What to expect:
Accidental Quadtych becomes more engaging then a singular, final canvas.
Your videos are Brilliant. I'm reminded of my first Art History class some 55 years ago. Don't stop your amazing story telling; how do you do it? ...Newk from Kentucky TY
Oh boy… this is the first comic book page ever made.
thank you this video is dope
Could you comment on El Greco, please. The piece owned by my childhood museum, the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, is so loose, so "impressionistic", it really moves me. It shows a large male figure in the foreground with a hill town, perhaps Toledo, in the right background. I am not finding that exact image online, but have also seen his "Toledo" in a traveling show. I know he has executed many more "tight" renderings, but his looseness and brushiness seems so prescient for the 15 and 1600's. Thanks so much for your videos. I look forward to seeing your vids about the artists in residence. Good Fortune.
from 20k to almost 300k in 5 months 👀
I find the frame in the bottom left to show human compassion agaist the chaos of political change, the body language combined with the general's face on top implies he chose to look the executioners in the eyes so the emperor didnt have to. I may get a digital copy.
Thank you for making the film and posting the video. Could you add the details, including the current locations of these works? Date they were painted, and which museum or gallery has them (or private collection)? References to your video will also be useful: it is educational, but it is missing your source references. Would you consider adding in the description? THANK YOU again (I am a new subscriber). Loli
It's somehow like there's a painting by Delacroix suppossingly depicting Chopin playing piano and George Sand standing by him, the work is also just fragments but still fascinating to watch.
20k Subscriber's and 5 months ago. Im seeing 303k and you accumulated 283k subscribers in 5 months?! that's not bad
This was interessting. I can see Manets last version whenever I feel like. It‘s in the city I live, the Kunsthalle Mannheim. Yes it is a highly political picture and Manet really did not care a Maximilian as a person. The firing squad are dressed as French soldiers. Maximilian is wearing a sombrero, the had cover of a peasant, the emperor would have never worn that. The story: the French emperor kills the republic and the working people.
I did not know about the Degas version, I’m sure it got mentioned in the Kunsthalle. I sure forgot about it.
Reminds me pretty much on the approach of Tattoos 😉
Great video, very informative and well edited ! 👍 But it is "coup de grâce" ("merciful hit" , meaning the killing stroke). "Coup de gras" would litteraly mean "a hit of fat" which made me laugh and kind of distracted me from your explanations for a moment 😁. Keep up the great work, you are a true professional ! We need more beautiful informative and artistic content such as yours. Also, in the 90's a French TV series called "palettes" did this kind of thing in great detail, if you speak French it is definitely worth checking out.
we say in french " le coup de grâce " it means something like the shot or the blow of mercy not le coup de gras.
The last version is at the Kunsthalle Mannheim (Germany).
Love your videos !
By the way it is "coup de grâce" and not "coup de gras" (it is a cute mistake btw)
Gras : equivalent of fat or grease in english
Once I was seated before a great Manet painting of execution of Maximilian, sketching it. Some tall gal entered the quiet gallery and sat next to me, saying nothing. In later times I surmised that maybe she thought museums are a decent place to meet a guy. It was awkward. I kept sketching, since that was what I was doing. Neither of us said a word. I don't necessarily believe in "cheap opportunism", and was never any good anyway at interjecting small talk. To those still reading this, guess what? It ends like all my other stories end! Nothing happened!
(Incidentally, I own a copy of that wonderful early Degas self portrait --- the etching).
I think another great aspect of it, i think, is that it could represent how Napoleon was trying to censor the event or information surrounding it. It is very simiar to what you stated, we don't get to see the "whole picture" because we weren't there like the French people, or Manet.
And even then, to restate what you said, if you were there, it would happen so fast that you are only able to focus on certain things of the scene or remember certain things of that scene, so again, not getting the full picture.
I see it a little differently. "The Third of May" depicts the slaughter of Spanish peasants by occupying French soldiers, in reprisal for the events of the previous day. It is almost the exact opposite of "The Execution," Manet's depiction of the death of a monarch at the hands of the people he sought to rule. Goya's painting suggests shame at the killing of groups of people the soldiers are conquering - it is done in the night, the soldiers faces are averted, the central figure in the murder is brightly lit - arms spread wide, while the priest next to him, also about to die in the volley of fire, prays. In "The Execution," the soldiers are the central figures and do not seem to avert their faces from the viewer but instead to focus on their targets. Maximilian has no expression that calls to the viewer. Importantly, I think, the soldier preparing the coup de grace represents that this is a legitimate execution, as his purpose is to end needless suffering if required. The is no such consideration for the victims in "The Third of May;" these are reprisal killings.
Basically, they accidentally gave a painting panels, like a comic, a piece of sequential art
And 3 months later it's on 204k😱
I would be interested to know more about Emile Betsellère, L'Oublié! (Forgotten!), 1872
First time I saw it, I kind of choked up.
This is technically a comic strip. Then again, so are the Stations of the Cross. Of course read left to right.
>Manet paints
-Meh pretty average
>Manet destroys the painting
-Masterpiece
>Manet: surprised pikachu face
Peace brother, I there by any chance I can contact you?
Hey there! You can contact me through my Instagram page
@@Shawn.Grenier ok what's your @
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Dagas made a visual comic strip by accident.
Fui el año pasado donde estan los restos del ultimo Emperador, hay un lindo parque y un museito
Ivan the terrible killed his only son , by Repin , saw it at the Tretiakov , hard to beat for pathos
Great video! We say « coup de grâce » in french ;)
A presentiment of Cubism and also Abel Gance's film "Napoleon"?
So it almost becomes a comic
Twice. What about the uniforms, and the white sashes making a clear capital F? I could be thinking's too hard, but I thought for sure that would have been something brought up as far as an underlying something or other. I adore this channel and it's content, but I think I'll take an aspirin....😀
5:25; irritating French corrector here.
it's "Coup de grâce", not "Coup de gras" which here means "fat blow" lol
Okay, so I just watched this piece....
Here at 420 k subs
Make arguments instead of talking about your opinions, it's more compelling
Jason Momoa's nephew went to art school apparently...
Being part of a firing squad for an execution in a time of war is not "comitting a murder". I know it's hard to understand for millenials, but that is one of the points that make civilization understandable.
Ho, and on the right side of the Channel, we say "coup de grâce", which means "mercy shot". "Coup de gras" does not mean nothing. Gras, was the name of a reglementary issued french miiltary rifle, named after the engineer who proposed it to the ministry of defence. BUT, The Gras rifle was never used to deliver the "coup de grâce", as it's always an officer's task, performed with a handgun. Gras is "fat", in french, so "coup de gras" seems a bit strange. Just as if you wanted to terminate the prisoner's life through a very calorific diet.
Hello. Usually I don't have anything to say against your videos, who are wonderfully written and masterfully shot, but this one just has a small problem with your usually admirable knowledge of French: there's no "coup de gras" (FAT blow) but a "coup de GRÂCE" (mercy blow). Sorry, not a very pertinent comment, but you didn't only say it, you also wrote it...
French is a waste of time
Merci pour votre avis hautement qualifié) Obviously, our Host doesn't share your opinion. ^^
@@guillaumechevalier3368 de rien, tu sais i am right
@@ericktellez7632 wouldn't it be silly for a Frenchman to argue in English about the relevance of French with a random user, who could also be a native French speaker, judging by his family name?
Coup de gras? should be written "Coup de grâce"?
Lol "coup de GRAS" in french translates as " hit of fat" you meant "coup de grâce" i guess, still a nice video
Ngl, I vastly prefer Goya's version.
"Le coup de grâce", Shawn, not " le coup de gras". 😀
So ...if you cut up a painting then rearrange the bits it's
called " renarrativising ". ? Hmm....
I really really REALLY wish creators on RUclips would stop misusing the word murder. "Murder" is a legal term regarding an unlawful homicide => the killing of a human. As such the 1808 painting probably (I don't know the history of the event) was probably a legally sanctioned execution. As such Henry the VIII murdered no one. His homicides may have been unethical but they were legal. You may disagree with a legal ruling, you may find it immoral, but it was still legal under the process of LAW in the place it took place. The word you should be using is homicide, not murder.
Now you know.
Napoléon 3 also wanted to support the Confederacy at the beginning of US Civil War... but he was afraid for economic reasons to alienate the Union... he did hesitate... and then renounced 😀... Napoléon 3 was so bad at international politics that it did cost him his empire. 😀
Love your high-res paintings... Some otherwise good art documentaries are spoiled by lousy, blurry paintings taken from poor printed reproductions.
Open a patreon. You'll make more, they take less
the term "Masterpiece " has been thrown around so damn much now in these kind of videos that it has no meaning
What do u call it then
What seems trash to the original artist is a masterpiece to others....I guess.
Isn't 'Accidental Masterpiece' an oxymoron..?
Would rather not see you.
Could you please accidentally stop to tell stupidities?