Thank you for subscribing! We have two more channels as well. They are linked in the video description. We are also on social media platforms with lots of extra stories and insight. You can find links to everything at www.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim
I’m happy to hear that ChargePoint is implementing Plug&Charge. I’ve had good experiences with it on EA chargers so far and look forward to making things this easy with more chargers.
Absolutely, I'm a retired senior who would love to replace our aging Nissan Leaf with another small EV. I won't buy a vehicle that lacks an instrument cluster front and center, or comes without stalks. A realistic 200 mile range would be ideal. 0 to 60 is of no concern to me. Our Leaf in Eco mode gives us plenty of zip. It seems like the Europeans are getting all the nice small hatchback EVs.
Don't you know, Americans only buy SUVs! Of course, that has been forced on us as hardly anyone offers smaller cars to us. However, I will admit that all my cars are SUVs, but at my age it is easier for me to get in and out of them.
No one is making EVs at manufacturing scales large enough to make that possible outside of Chinese manufacturers. Tesla will have a more economy model first half of 2025...
I think there are important advantages to swapping. One is resale value and fear of a damaged batter when buying a used EV. Another is the fact that I can now carry just a small battery most of the time, maybe 40Kw, for a small price and then swap out for a long trip where I can't charge at home Another is the fact I can take advantage of later tech as it comes out Another is the "green" advantage where a charging station can say all their batteries are charged with solar, etc.
China and European buyers have shown us that swapping has value by electing to swap about 60million times. They could have charged conventionally. It is not an either/or dilemma. Thanks for commenting. -Producer Tim
Great work on the news again this week! Did Hyundai share technical details on how they have changed and improved their lower voltage DCFC capabilities? I'm interested to learn how they are now approaching it. Also, looking forward to the solid state technology hitting primetime, that will be a big step. Personally, not interested in battery swapping, I don't even like swapping propane tanks for a gas grill, lol. Nice to see folks keep pushing the higher charge speeds. I hope EREVs don't slow down the ultimate transition to full BEV. Cheers!
They use the inverter and motor to boost 400v to 800v. www.insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/how-e-gmp-handles-400v-dc-chargers.19497/ Thanks for watching this week! -Producer Tim
we’ve debated this in your comment section before, but I experienced the plug in hybrid aka EREV as a gateway experience to full electric - got used to plugging in at home, looking for level 2 charging out and about, smooth quiet electric drive, but could still do road trips (in the mid-2010s) no stress. Next car was full BEV. Aside from the fact that you can make 5 EREVs from the battery in one BEV for better aggregate electric use and carbon reduction vs one BEV and 4 gas cars, most of those 5 EREV drivers may well consider full BEV for the next one.
As much as I don’t think PHEVs are that great, I will admit that driving my classic Ioniq Hybrid did influence how I ultimately went full BEV. I found myself actually disappointed when the engine would start! 😂
Thank you very very much ChargePoint chargers improvement is wonderful news then fast leasing sounds good. Also, I am curious what the towing rating will be for that vf9 sounds like it has a good size battery and good range will be a nice vehicle no doubt.
We reported the specifications on this show five months ago, but a few might have changed. The Vinfast web site has all of the details. Thanks for writing! -Producer Tim vinfastauto.us/vehicles/vf-9
Hurray Charge point. Every charger needs to be capable of plug and charge and all OEMs need to work together on this. I am not a hybrid fan at all for the added complexity of 2 systems. However they can make sense especially in EREV form for those customers that need longer ranges than pure EVs offer. That together with battery swap technology can bridge the gap for long range and/or towing needs until battery technology catches up. EREVs also have the added benefits of the power and smoothness of EV drive dynamics but add range with smaller engine than would be needed for a normal hybrid and no transmission.
When typical EV range reaches 500mi with price parity combustion passenger vehicles will become a very small niche. Right now there is only one EV with more than 500 miles. There are several with more than 400 miles. Miss GoElectric drives one of them. Thanks for commenting! -Producer Tim
Plug and charge needs to happen fast. Cell phones didn't take off until we had roaming agreements and having plug and charge will help EV adoption too. I think it would be cool if you could get charging included with your home electric bill.
Tesla has mastered making it simple. They are like Apple and the rest of the industry is like Android. At first Android was highly fragmented but overtime the user experience has come close to parity. The parallel seems to be holding up so far. Thanks for writing! -Producer Tim
The 10% of new car buyers choosing a fully electric automobile in the USA today tend to have the ability to access overnight L2 charging at low cost. In order to get the other 90%, we must offer a variety of solutions. A sizeable percentage of drivers will not be able to install a home charging solution. Battery swapping has been very successful overseas with tens of millions of swaps by EV drivers. They have the option to DC fast charge, but the folks opting to do it are doing so because it is advantageous to them. Full EV adoption for all types of people representing all lifestyles requires Thoughtful and varied accommodation. -Producer Tim
Many, many comments here about the wonders of Hybrid power trains. Many arguments can be made for and against them but the biggest characteristic is not mentioned or discussed: The high $ costs to maintain them past the warranty expiration after 50k to 100k miles!
Chargepoint is already the best CCS charging network in America in terms of ease of charging without using a phone: their RFID card works flawlessly and quickly every time I use it … plug-and-charge will always have problems with so many different brands of EVs, so RFID cards are the way to go… Are you listening, EA ?!?! I hate hate hate using my iPhone to charge!!! Plug-and-charge never works for me with EA…
Wouldn't a single universal account with no action required be better than signing up for a bunch of different accounts and apps? That is Plug & Charge. No RFID. No tapping. One account. -Producer Tim
Placement doesn't matter with V4 pedestals and that rollout is happening quickly in the US. Those cables are long enough. We don't expect the upcoming Ioniq9 to change anytime soon because the tooling is brand new. Thank you for watching and sharing your views. -Producer Tim
Battery swapping makes sense to replace batteries that are degraded. To swap out a battery on a trip doesn't seem reasonable. May be in a smaller country like Japan it makes sense.
Did you know that the battery swap process takes 3 minutes? Why do you suppose tens of millions of battery swaps have already been performed by EV drivers all over China and Europe? The collective roadway network where those 3000 swapping stations exist is much more vast than the USA roadway system. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric I didn't know that it went that quickly. I guess the question is would this make sense for people in urban areas that lack home charging? If that is the case, then I think it could make sense. Out on the road--may be not--a lot of infrastructure I suspect but I'm open to the possibilities.
3000 swapping stations are currently operating throughout Europe and Asia. They've been utilized about 60 million times by EV drivers who also have the option to change conventionally elsewhere. -Producer Tim
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Wireless charging is the next innovation. There's no need to keep pulling out adapters, risking them getting stolen. It'll be great for public charging. Also, pet mode is something all EVs should have, either by subscription or a one-time payment.
Adapters are a blip. NACS is now the standard and by 2026 almost every EV sold in the US will be equipped with a native port. Thanks for chiming in! -Producer Tim
We are not super thrilled about having only 25k after three years, but we know why: 1) The Current has been running for 9.5 months 2) our thumbnails are not very good 3) we don't tap into trending keywords 4) the subject matter is not appealing to general audiences 5) we never sensationalize and are generally apolitical (we are aware that tribalism would rapidly improve growth) There are probably other reasons, but those are the factors we are aware of. Thank you for joining us. We hope you'll consider sharing a link to our videos so others can find our work. Have you tuned I to our other YT channels? -Producer Tim
@ I humbly beg to differ. I think that there are > 1M EV drivers and EV enthusiasts who would benefit from concise and accurate reporting of the milestones in the rEVolution.
@EVRick A million people in North America with about 350 million Internet connected viewers is a drop in the bucket. That is a niche, not a *general* audience. -Producer Tim
Thanks for sharing your perspective. About half of the people we talk to think plugin hybrids are the gateway to EVs and they feel as if movement to electric propulsion is a solid step forward. We ask these questions because there are many perspectives. -Producer Tim
We are on our third PHEV from three different automakers (own two currently)… they are perfect for us because we do lots of road trips and don’t want the hassle of crappy charging infrastructure but can drive in all -electric mode most of the year by charging in our garage
Not sure why but I am rooting for VinFast. Viet Nam is a democracy so it would be nice if they became competitive with the likes of china. Also, it is much appreciated that you index your videos. Makes it easier to skip to the stuff that is most interesting.
Do you know when Genesis will have access to the TESLA supercharger network? There is a group of us on the Genesis forum that have inquired at the various local dealerships in the US, but they have no idea.
Most Genesis, Hyundai, and Kia products share the same eGMP platform, but there are some exceptions. Hyundai Group was not among the first to make a deal with Tesla, but they are scheduled to have access by January 2025. During the spring of 2025 many Hyundai Group vehicles will be delivered with native NACS ports which indicates OEM confidence in functionality by then. -Producer Tim
We currently manage presence on five platforms. That is about four too many for us to manage effectively. We will not be joining Bluesky. -Producer Tim
Based on the information here about Hyundai Ionic 9, it will likely be ~ $90k, like all the others in its class and will battle it out for a sliver of that saturated market. MB will also likely add to that in pool as well in '26.
I have a Honda Clarity PHEV and I love it. PHEVs are a huge step forward over strictly ICE vehicles and should be appreciated as such. They can get people driving 90% electric without having the worry of the current limitations of the charging infrastructure. At this point in time, they make the most sense for many people. I recognize that this will likely not be the case in 5 years or so and look forward to my next car being a BEV but, for now, I am happy to be driving almost all electric with some use of gas when I need it.
The Karma Revero erev uses Volt (Quantum/GM) powertrain technology and is still in production. Over the last few weeks we've reported on many erev announcements from a variety of automakers. There is a near term trend towards that technology in the USA and it is already quite popular in China. BYD is cranking out larger vehicles which rely on it. Thank you for sharing your opinion. Like you are not fans of complicated combustion systems. -Producer Tim
Well, they're better than ICE, hybrid, and even plug in hybrids. Gets rid of the transmission, and lets the engine run at peak efficiency. You can use a smaller engine. Not the ideal, but it would be OK for some people. GM should have kept building the Volt.
@rp We think the peak is yet to come for erev in the USA. Already BYD is selling them like hotcakes all over the world including the Shark truck nearby in Mexico and the Caribbean. -Producer Tim
So what we now have are EV's with Turbos and 2 speed automatic transmissions, sound effect fake muffler sounds inside and out (Porsche, Dodge & RAM and others), butt vibrators (Dodge & RAM) and now with "shift jerkers! Of course if that is not "refined" MB has toilet water spritzers and massage chairs along with mood lighting everywhere! And people wonder why these things cost so much...
Synthesized fuel is not our thing, but we realize there will be some interim solutions as EV technology advances to the point when it can displace combustion in every category of transportation. Thanks for joining us and chiming in. -Producer Tim
They could use unicorn dung too, but synfuel is made of electricity and is way too expensive. You have all the inefficiencies of the refining plus the ICE. Look at the hydrogen fiasco.
Time to move to BlueSky. We have 2 EV's & 2 Diesels. One each car & truck (both EV & ICE) Drive the EV (truck or car) nearly al of the time. Drive the ICE vehicle to keep the battery charged or for the higher range or to keep the mice at bay. Drove the diesel car to Alaska last year because of lack of charging capability in Northern B.C.
zero to 60 times are not really what I want to know. Why? all these EVs are fast enough for local driving, and local driving is mostly what people do. Pricing, promotional benefits, availability, ease of enty and exit, and safety features are my need to know
If 0-60 times did not motivate buyers, marketeers would omit them. Impractical elements are, in fact, often among the primary drivers of automobile selection. -Producer Tim
IMO, US and EU tariffs on Chinese EVs will not cause China OEMs to change their focus on EVs. With over 100 OEMs, China is letting the market show them what customers want, and they will continue to build, and export, ICE, hybrid, PHEV, and BEV per the market demand. Also IMO, PHEVs are a good bridge technology for certain customers and use cases. PHEVs with less than 35 mile EV range are not terribly useful, but longer range ones with decent EV power are. Compared to EVs, PHEVs have less passenger and cargo space, and require more maintenance. EVs have more promise for future manufacturing cost reductions. With sufficient DC fast charging for long trips, there really is no need for PHEVs.
The market forces are not really working when 45% European tariffs and 100% US tariffs are obscuring the achievable value proposition to consumers. Thank you for sharing your views on PHEVs. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric Yes, but the market forces are working fine in China, and many countries that they export to in Asia, South America, Africa, even Russia. That is the reason for my opinion.
POLESTAR and ZEEKR are GEELY brands and they are 100% electric. ZEEKR has only been around since 2021 but already have a greater variety of vehicle models and types than TESLA, RIVIAN and LUCID combined.
Neither brand is all electric. Polestar1 is still for sale by Polestar new and it burns gasoline. Zeekr has announced upcoming vehicles which burns gasoline. The big difference of course is that Lotus and Volvo are legacy brands which have been building combustion vehicles for decades. Both promised to go all EV. Both went back on that promise. Zeekr and Polestar started branding Geely platforms in recent years along with half a dozen other new nameplates globally. Thanks for commenting. -Producer Tim www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news/zeekr-will-reportedly-adopt-hybrid-power/ar-AA1u72eF www.autonews.com/geely/ane-geely-zeekr-lynk-fusion-costs/
Lotus developing hybrids is extremely disappointing and a big step backwards. All passenger vehicles should transition to BEVs to minimize use of fossil fuel engines. Hybrids are nothing more than a gas car with a tiny battery causing complexity from dual power trains.
@ Driving EVs since 2017, I’ve seen a major improvement in public charging and am optimistic for the future. My city in SW Florida just got a 6-stall EA charger installed and we have a Tesla supercharger at permitting level. Charging for condominiums, HOAs, and apartments still remains a major problem. We now own 3-EVs out of 5 previously purchased and will never go back to gas.
Better than full gasser, not as good as Bev, should at least be plug-ins. Most people don't know how much rain they actually need including some EV drivers.
I REALLY CAN'T SEE A HYBRID BEING ANY CHEAPER TO BUILD THAN A PURE EV . NOW YOU HAVE TO BUILD A GAS CAR AND ADD ALL EV COMPONENTES JUST LIKE IN PURE EV AND MATE TOTETHER . DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A VERY CHEAP WAY TO BUILD CONSIDERING THE SAVINGS COMPARED TO PURE EV .
Battery packs are very expensive. Legacy automakers can build an engine and all of the required subsystems for less than $2k. Legacy automakers are deciding to build PHEVs because their profit opportunity is improved. Remember, they have hundreds of billions of dollars tied up in ICE infrastructure, labor contracts, and supplier agreements. They can't just write that all off and walk away without going bankrupt. In America, the franchise dealerships to which legacy auto makers are legally bound make about half of their money on maintenance and repairs. EVs don't need much of either. The pressure to keep service revenues coming is enormous. It is complicated for the big, old players. Rivian, Lucid, and Tesla are in a different situation. The logic you've cited is more applicable to them. -Producer Tim
How many EVs do rich people need? Trickle down to upper middle class and those living on unsustainable credit isn't going to "electrify" the world. Plugin hybrids that don't get plugged in most of the time are more expensive than pure ICE with higher emissions.
The best EVs on the market can be leased right now for $300/mo which is well below the average automobile payment in the USA today. For $20k, anybody can pick up an outstanding 2 year old EV with 6 years remaining on the powertrain warranty. Affordable EVs are now widely available. The Mexico-produced Gen2 Chevy Bolt will be revealed soon. Tesla will announce more affordable models in a few months. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric I've been shopping for a Bolt but the pickings are slim here. People really hold onto them. The Hertz ones are overpriced, beat up, and fugly colors.
Studying engineering at university and working with gullible would-be non-degreed engineers throughout my career taught me to be skeptical, not blindly optimistic about new advances in tech. For every bold claim made by marketing, there is a small army of engineers trying to turn the imperfect science into practical reality and often meeting failure when you treat your R&D as a goal+timeline instead of moving forward after you've succeeded. What separates the doers from the talkers is that responsible engineering delivers before it announces. Honda's claims about some future they haven't yet cracked are no more believable than any other assertion that others have made about the improvements their vaporware battery will bring.
I worked in R&D 39 years and had to sort through a lot of bullshit. A lot of these battery claims are to generate capital to pursue development (which they need). Thing is, the tech is moving fast and if you start to build a plant today, in 3 years when you're ready to produce the tech has moved on and it's obsolete. "Always think about where the hockey puck will be, not where it is now." The big problem with announcements is the Osbourne Effect, where people won't buy today because they've been promised something much better tomorrow.
Geely and BYD aren't following the playbook we like best. They have a lot of information and very wise leadership. The business case must be very strong. -Producer Tim
Thanks for tuning in! 🤓 Ioniq 9 won't have active dampers but I would bet the Neolun/Genesis GV90 electric will since it's in the luxury segment with a higher price point that justifies the technology spend.
We live in the USA and 95% of our viewership is here. That is why we speak English, use imperial units, and focus on electrification news which will likely affect American audiences. There are some really great European shows which cater to metric audiences. Have you checked out Fully Charged? Thanks for joining us! -Producer Tim
Better than battery swapping, EZ battery replacement, if Nissan Leaf had employed it, they could have stayed on top. They could have advertised a reasonable price for battery replacement out of warranty, would have been Peace of Mind especially for noobs
When possible we offer range estimates and battery capacity. We know that some portion of the viewership will do basic arithmetic to derive additional statistics. Concision is our top priority on The Current. We get into granular technical detail on the Industry channel. Perhaps you'd like to check that one out: Industry.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim
Given the shortcomings of public charging infrastructure, reduced range and inconvenience, huge cost and resource waste to produce batteries, it is no wonder that the vast majority of the car buying market will question the suitability of EVs. So I find it extraordinary that range extended hybrids are not considered the ONLY workable solution until technology solves the big problems.
This might have been a somewhat fair and accurate comment if the year were 2019. In 2024, it is exclusively misinformation. You can update your understanding by tuning into our weekly EV news show: news.missgoelectric.com There are over 30 million fully electric vehicles in operation right now. Did you know that the best selling car in the USA and in the world is the Tesla Model Y? Maybe you thought it was a Toyota, Ford, Honda or GM vehicle with a gas powertrain? Times have changed. EV drivers usually charge conveniently at home, effortlessly adding 300-500 miles of range for ten or fifteen dollars while they sleep. Gas drivers pay 2-3 as much and have to drive to a gas station whenever they want to add range. EV drivers only use public chargers 3-5x per year on average. EVs are more convenient and less costly to operate In America there are already more EV charging stations per EV driver than there are gas stations per combustion vehicle driver. I commonly pass 10-20 charging stations for every one I use when I take coast-coast EV road trips. On top of that, any EV can charge on any standard 110v outlet. There are hundreds of millions of those all over America. Electricity is more readily available than gasoline by orders of magnitude. Range anxiety is old news. Like all fear, it is a form of ignorance which evaporates with education. Gas drivers suffer far more frequent breakdowns and their automobiles require regular maintenance. Did you know that most internal combustion vehicles receive their original purchase price in service and parts once over before they are scrapped? The typical combustion vehicle goes to a junkyard in 150,000 miles. Today's EVs are built to run for at least twice that with little to no powertrain maintenance. Gas vehicles burn a fuel which is not renewable, emit deadly fumes, and are 30-60x more likely to catch fire. Gas drivers endure significant fuel prices volatility. Gas vehicles are slower, have less torque, are noiser, and are statistically less safe. EV batteries contain valuable materials which is why automakers recycle them. Tesla, the largest EV manufacturer recycles 100% of their batteries. A battery pack will have a service life of 20-40 years and then it will be recycled into a new battery pack. That circular economy benefits Americans. Gasoline transfers our wealth and power to other countries. I could go on, but this seems like enough for now. -Producer Tim
EV in the 3-row space is getting pretty crowded. Cadi has two. Lucid, Rivian, Volvo, & the one which will soon be EVERYWHERE, the ID.Buzz. Of the lot, if I was in the market, I would get the I9. Thx for the video.
I'll keep driving my Focus until they come up with a replacement! I'm leery of GM but the Bolt2 is on my shopping list. That's the size that will get America into EVs.
Folks with families and dogs need them and they are willing to pay high prices. Legacy automakers in particular need margin on EVs. They are not very efficient at building them for many reasons we've gone into previously. The path for legacy automakers to EV relevance is narrow. That's why they seem to be following the same playbook. Fortunately, Tesla and other high volume EV makers continue to make great progress regarding costs and, ultimately, affordability. Thanks for commenting! -Producer Tim
Thanks for the channel and updates. Would be great to hear statics in metric as well. As most other parts of the globe uses metric. Plus, with the EV, tech and interest, the USA is already far behind many around the world.
Thank you for watching! We are based in the USA and 95% of our audience is here, too. To provide maximum clarity and deliver the most information in the least time for our core audience, we will continue with imperial measurements. Hopefully there are some other news sources in metric countries which can deliver the informational density we strive for. -Producer Tim
Have you used one? Why do you think 60 million swaps have been chosen by EV drivers in Europe and Asia? Those vehicles ALSO accept conventional charging. That is quite a few voluntary instances of choosing to swap instead of charging. What might that volume of data tell us about real world desirability of that service? -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric I would never swap my Tesla battery if I could. I take good care of my battery & dont want to get à spent battery. Also the cost is way more than just charging & 95% of my charging is at home.
Why do you think 60 million swaps have been chosen by EV drivers in Europe and Asia? Those vehicles ALSO accept conventional charging. That is quite a few voluntary instances of choosing to swap instead of charging. What might that volume of data tell us about real world desirability of that service? -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric we need to move towards pure EV everywhere possible as quickly as possible, period. We can no longer afford these nonsense hybrid or hydrogen half measures in the road vehicle space. We are on an ever tightening timeline upon which human lives depend in the short, medium, and long term. Anything other than EV for road vehicles at this point is explicitly unethical and immoral.
@@MissGoElectric evs are the way forward, period. This is a time sensitive issue. There's no time for these nonsense half measures like any of the species of hybrids or hydrogen for road vehicles. Human lives are dependent on this in the short, medium, and long term. Doing anything else at this point is immoral and unethical.
Geely wants to have a foothold in every nook and cranny of the global automotive business. They sell millions of vehicles per year... the aggregate of its many many brands. Every little bit counts. -Producer Tim
Interesting prediction. Remember, Geely is the purse strings and those pockets are deep. They want every imaginable demographic to be targeted by their many brands. There is certainly a minimum viable sales figure but the scale of Geely enables that figure to be much lower than one might initially presume. -Producer Tim
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I’m happy to hear that ChargePoint is implementing Plug&Charge. I’ve had good experiences with it on EA chargers so far and look forward to making things this easy with more chargers.
It would be great to see easier charging. Newcomers deserve an experience which is superior to pumping gasoline regarding ease of use.
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Disappointed that manufacturers concentrate on 3-row seating instead of making a sub $30k vehicle for the North American market.
Absolutely, I'm a retired senior who would love to replace our aging Nissan Leaf with another small EV. I won't buy a vehicle that lacks an instrument cluster front and center, or comes without stalks. A realistic 200 mile range would be ideal. 0 to 60 is of no concern to me. Our Leaf in Eco mode gives us plenty of zip. It seems like the Europeans are getting all the nice small hatchback EVs.
@@redoscar540 Agreed. That is why I loved our 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EUV. Small, reasonably priced and has about 247 miles range.
Don't you know, Americans only buy SUVs! Of course, that has been forced on us as hardly anyone offers smaller cars to us. However, I will admit that all my cars are SUVs, but at my age it is easier for me to get in and out of them.
No one is making EVs at manufacturing scales large enough to make that possible outside of Chinese manufacturers. Tesla will have a more economy model first half of 2025...
@@redoscar540 plenty Chevy bolts , how you describe what you want…. they would be ideal!
Gm miss GoElectric, Ty for a nice video as usual.
Thank you for joining us again this weekend!
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I think there are important advantages to swapping.
One is resale value and fear of a damaged batter when buying a used EV.
Another is the fact that I can now carry just a small battery most of the time, maybe 40Kw, for a small price
and then swap out for a long trip where I can't charge at home
Another is the fact I can take advantage of later tech as it comes out
Another is the "green" advantage where a charging station can say all their batteries are charged with solar, etc.
China and European buyers have shown us that swapping has value by electing to swap about 60million times. They could have charged conventionally. It is not an either/or dilemma.
Thanks for commenting.
-Producer Tim
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Great work on the news again this week! Did Hyundai share technical details on how they have changed and improved their lower voltage DCFC capabilities? I'm interested to learn how they are now approaching it. Also, looking forward to the solid state technology hitting primetime, that will be a big step. Personally, not interested in battery swapping, I don't even like swapping propane tanks for a gas grill, lol. Nice to see folks keep pushing the higher charge speeds. I hope EREVs don't slow down the ultimate transition to full BEV. Cheers!
They use the inverter and motor to boost 400v to 800v.
www.insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/how-e-gmp-handles-400v-dc-chargers.19497/
Thanks for watching this week!
-Producer Tim
we’ve debated this in your comment section before, but I experienced the plug in hybrid aka EREV as a gateway experience to full electric - got used to plugging in at home, looking for level 2 charging out and about, smooth quiet electric drive, but could still do road trips (in the mid-2010s) no stress. Next car was full BEV. Aside from the fact that you can make 5 EREVs from the battery in one BEV for better aggregate electric use and carbon reduction vs one BEV and 4 gas cars, most of those 5 EREV drivers may well consider full BEV for the next one.
Many others have also stated that PHEV can be a gateway to EV.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
-Producer Tim
As much as I don’t think PHEVs are that great, I will admit that driving my classic Ioniq Hybrid did influence how I ultimately went full BEV. I found myself actually disappointed when the engine would start! 😂
A gateway to EV? You are not alone
Evidence supports that assumption.
-Producer Tim
Thank you very very much ChargePoint chargers improvement is wonderful news then fast leasing sounds good. Also, I am curious what the towing rating will be for that vf9 sounds like it has a good size battery and good range will be a nice vehicle no doubt.
We reported the specifications on this show five months ago, but a few might have changed.
The Vinfast web site has all of the details.
Thanks for writing!
-Producer Tim
vinfastauto.us/vehicles/vf-9
Hurray Charge point. Every charger needs to be capable of plug and charge and all OEMs need to work together on this. I am not a hybrid fan at all for the added complexity of 2 systems. However they can make sense especially in EREV form for those customers that need longer ranges than pure EVs offer. That together with battery swap technology can bridge the gap for long range and/or towing needs until battery technology catches up. EREVs also have the added benefits of the power and smoothness of EV drive dynamics but add range with smaller engine than would be needed for a normal hybrid and no transmission.
Thanks for sharing.
-Producer Tim
Do you have a Bluesky or a Signal platform as well?
We will not join any more platforms. Five is already too much.
Thanks for joining us here!
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@@MissGoElectric if 5 is too much, you can shut down X, as everyone is doing right now.
Thanks. EVs will win out in the long run. Just think when 500 miles of range for EVs will be the norm.
When typical EV range reaches 500mi with price parity combustion passenger vehicles will become a very small niche.
Right now there is only one EV with more than 500 miles. There are several with more than 400 miles. Miss GoElectric drives one of them.
Thanks for commenting!
-Producer Tim
Plug and charge needs to happen fast. Cell phones didn't take off until we had roaming agreements and having plug and charge will help EV adoption too. I think it would be cool if you could get charging included with your home electric bill.
Tesla has mastered making it simple. They are like Apple and the rest of the industry is like Android. At first Android was highly fragmented but overtime the user experience has come close to parity. The parallel seems to be holding up so far.
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-Producer Tim
Battery swapping seems so unnecessarily complex and adds weight at the expense of structural rigidity. I would still want to charge mostly at home.
The 10% of new car buyers choosing a fully electric automobile in the USA today tend to have the ability to access overnight L2 charging at low cost.
In order to get the other 90%, we must offer a variety of solutions. A sizeable percentage of drivers will not be able to install a home charging solution.
Battery swapping has been very successful overseas with tens of millions of swaps by EV drivers. They have the option to DC fast charge, but the folks opting to do it are doing so because it is advantageous to them.
Full EV adoption for all types of people representing all lifestyles requires Thoughtful and varied accommodation.
-Producer Tim
Wish Honda would sell their EV lawn care machines in the USA.
Supposedly they will be releasing an electric lawn mower here next year.
They will.
-Producer Tim
Many, many comments here about the wonders of Hybrid power trains. Many arguments can be made for and against them but the biggest characteristic is not mentioned or discussed: The high $ costs to maintain them past the warranty expiration after 50k to 100k miles!
Complexity should be undesirable. It probably would be if that weren't so hard to understand. Lol
-Producer Tim
Vinfast's strategy in Vietnam has EV taxis, scooters and POVs flooding the market. Gave me confidence of their future ventures abroad.
Vingroup controls vast wealth from many industries. Thanks for commenting.
-Producer Tim
Chargepoint is already the best CCS charging network in America in terms of ease of charging without using a phone: their RFID card works flawlessly and quickly every time I use it … plug-and-charge will always have problems with so many different brands of EVs, so RFID cards are the way to go… Are you listening, EA ?!?! I hate hate hate using my iPhone to charge!!! Plug-and-charge never works for me with EA…
Wouldn't a single universal account with no action required be better than signing up for a bunch of different accounts and apps?
That is Plug & Charge.
No RFID. No tapping. One account.
-Producer Tim
Odd I9 adapted the NACs port but put it on the wrong side (for a Tesla charger). Wonder if they will flip it in production like EV6.
Placement doesn't matter with V4 pedestals and that rollout is happening quickly in the US. Those cables are long enough.
We don't expect the upcoming Ioniq9 to change anytime soon because the tooling is brand new.
Thank you for watching and sharing your views.
-Producer Tim
Battery swapping makes sense to replace batteries that are degraded. To swap out a battery on a trip doesn't seem reasonable. May be in a smaller country like Japan it makes sense.
Did you know that the battery swap process takes 3 minutes?
Why do you suppose tens of millions of battery swaps have already been performed by EV drivers all over China and Europe? The collective roadway network where those 3000 swapping stations exist is much more vast than the USA roadway system.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric I didn't know that it went that quickly. I guess the question is would this make sense for people in urban areas that lack home charging? If that is the case, then I think it could make sense. Out on the road--may be not--a lot of infrastructure I suspect but I'm open to the possibilities.
3000 swapping stations are currently operating throughout Europe and Asia. They've been utilized about 60 million times by EV drivers who also have the option to change conventionally elsewhere.
-Producer Tim
Enjoy your Sunday with all your family around you and everyone else ,Miss GoElectric
Drive Fly ride go Electic Miss GoElectric
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WISE,Miss GoElectric
Take care,Miss GoElectric
From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 13:43 Good Afternoon
Thanks for tuning in!
-Producer Tim
Wireless charging is the next innovation. There's no need to keep pulling out adapters, risking them getting stolen. It'll be great for public charging. Also, pet mode is something all EVs should have, either by subscription or a one-time payment.
No adapter is best argument for wireless
@ I meant those charging plugs, but it does make the case to just pull up and activate and go do your business come back and be back to 80%.
Adapters are a blip. NACS is now the standard and by 2026 almost every EV sold in the US will be equipped with a native port.
Thanks for chiming in!
-Producer Tim
Your presentations are so good, I cannot believe that you are not at 150K subscribers already!
There probably aren’t 150k American EV owners who look for this kind of info
We are not super thrilled about having only 25k after three years, but we know why:
1) The Current has been running for 9.5 months
2) our thumbnails are not very good
3) we don't tap into trending keywords
4) the subject matter is not appealing to general audiences
5) we never sensationalize and are generally apolitical (we are aware that tribalism would rapidly improve growth)
There are probably other reasons, but those are the factors we are aware of.
Thank you for joining us. We hope you'll consider sharing a link to our videos so others can find our work.
Have you tuned I to our other YT channels?
-Producer Tim
@ I humbly beg to differ. I think that there are > 1M EV drivers and EV enthusiasts who would benefit from concise and accurate reporting of the milestones in the rEVolution.
@EVRick
A million people in North America with about 350 million Internet connected viewers is a drop in the bucket. That is a niche, not a *general* audience.
-Producer Tim
*Any* vehicle that has any form of ICE tech is a bad idea. The question barely bears asking...
Thanks for sharing your perspective.
About half of the people we talk to think plugin hybrids are the gateway to EVs and they feel as if movement to electric propulsion is a solid step forward. We ask these questions because there are many perspectives.
-Producer Tim
We are on our third PHEV from three different automakers (own two currently)… they are perfect for us because we do lots of road trips and don’t want the hassle of crappy charging infrastructure but can drive in all -electric mode most of the year by charging in our garage
@@MissGoElectric You're welcome. ;-)>
Auto makers have told us we want hybrids
@@rp9674 Dealers told the OEMs they want service dollars.
Hybrids are backass backwards not moving fast forward to the efficient green, clean future!
We're still at 90% cars with tailpipes so any improvement is good.
Gas is the past... Almost. :)
-Producer Tim
Not sure why but I am rooting for VinFast. Viet Nam is a democracy so it would be nice if they became competitive with the likes of china. Also, it is much appreciated that you index your videos. Makes it easier to skip to the stuff that is most interesting.
Democracy? Rumor holds that if the bosses are communists there is no democracy.
Vietnam a democracy?? Vietnam has the exact type of government system as China.
Vietnam is an authoritarian dictatorship and communist country. Do some reading on it, it’s not that great and ranks high in human rights abuses.
We love your positivity! Please comment often. Your light is welcomed.
-Producer Tim
Do you know when Genesis will have access to the TESLA supercharger network? There is a group of us on the Genesis forum that have inquired at the various local dealerships in the US, but they have no idea.
Most Genesis, Hyundai, and Kia products share the same eGMP platform, but there are some exceptions. Hyundai Group was not among the first to make a deal with Tesla, but they are scheduled to have access by January 2025.
During the spring of 2025 many Hyundai Group vehicles will be delivered with native NACS ports which indicates OEM confidence in functionality by then. -Producer Tim
Any chance of adding Bluesky to your socials? I’m hoping to consolidate my favorite channels there. 🦋
We currently manage presence on five platforms. That is about four too many for us to manage effectively. We will not be joining Bluesky.
-Producer Tim
Too bad, I'm thinking about bluesky, never been on social before
The Internet is vast and I'm sure you'll be able to find what you are looking for!
Thanks for commenting here, friend.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric You could delete one and move to BlueSky
So Chargepoing and Hubject will make a 2014 like Tesla charger experience?
Progress.
-Producer Tim
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Thanks for joining us.
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Based on the information here about Hyundai Ionic 9, it will likely be ~ $90k, like all the others in its class and will battle it out for a sliver of that saturated market. MB will also likely add to that in pool as well in '26.
We'll report pricing when announced. It shares a lot of common hardware with sibling Kia EV9 which starts around 55k.
-Producer Tim
I have a Honda Clarity PHEV and I love it. PHEVs are a huge step forward over strictly ICE vehicles and should be appreciated as such. They can get people driving 90% electric without having the worry of the current limitations of the charging infrastructure. At this point in time, they make the most sense for many people. I recognize that this will likely not be the case in 5 years or so and look forward to my next car being a BEV but, for now, I am happy to be driving almost all electric with some use of gas when I need it.
worst of both worlds.
Ah, I think that PHEVs will make sense for the next 1-2 decades, especially in America and now that the anti-EV crowd is taking over Washington
Thanks for sharing your experience.
-Producer Tim
E-REVS are a step backward, the Chevy Volt was the first mass market car which has been discontinued for years.
The Karma Revero erev uses Volt (Quantum/GM) powertrain technology and is still in production.
Over the last few weeks we've reported on many erev announcements from a variety of automakers. There is a near term trend towards that technology in the USA and it is already quite popular in China. BYD is cranking out larger vehicles which rely on it.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. Like you are not fans of complicated combustion systems.
-Producer Tim
It peaked with the last gen volt and 2014 BMW I3 REX. Appropriate for that era but it's 2024
Well, they're better than ICE, hybrid, and even plug in hybrids. Gets rid of the transmission, and lets the engine run at peak efficiency. You can use a smaller engine. Not the ideal, but it would be OK for some people.
GM should have kept building the Volt.
@rp
We think the peak is yet to come for erev in the USA.
Already BYD is selling them like hotcakes all over the world including the Shark truck nearby in Mexico and the Caribbean.
-Producer Tim
So what we now have are EV's with Turbos and 2 speed automatic transmissions, sound effect fake muffler sounds inside and out (Porsche, Dodge & RAM and others), butt vibrators (Dodge & RAM) and now with "shift jerkers! Of course if that is not "refined" MB has toilet water spritzers and massage chairs along with mood lighting everywhere! And people wonder why these things cost so much...
Do people wonder why they cost so much?
I marvel at how they cost so little given the inputs.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric Yup, especially when they all lose a lot of $ money (except one in Texas)
Long range series plugin hybrids could use zero net carbon emitting synthesized fuel.
Synthesized fuel is not our thing, but we realize there will be some interim solutions as EV technology advances to the point when it can displace combustion in every category of transportation.
Thanks for joining us and chiming in.
-Producer Tim
They could use unicorn dung too, but synfuel is made of electricity and is way too expensive. You have all the inefficiencies of the refining plus the ICE. Look at the hydrogen fiasco.
Time to move to BlueSky. We have 2 EV's & 2 Diesels. One each car & truck (both EV & ICE) Drive the EV (truck or car) nearly al of the time. Drive the ICE vehicle to keep the battery charged or for the higher range or to keep the mice at bay. Drove the diesel car to Alaska last year because of lack of charging capability in Northern B.C.
The path to Alaska from the USA is achievable with even a $20,000 used Tesla Model 3 long range.
Thanks for writing.
-Producer Tim
zero to 60 times are not really what I want to know. Why? all these EVs are fast enough for local driving, and local driving is mostly what people do. Pricing, promotional benefits, availability, ease of enty and exit, and safety features are my need to know
If 0-60 times did not motivate buyers, marketeers would omit them. Impractical elements are, in fact, often among the primary drivers of automobile selection.
-Producer Tim
IMO, US and EU tariffs on Chinese EVs will not cause China OEMs to change their focus on EVs. With over 100 OEMs, China is letting the market show them what customers want, and they will continue to build, and export, ICE, hybrid, PHEV, and BEV per the market demand.
Also IMO, PHEVs are a good bridge technology for certain customers and use cases. PHEVs with less than 35 mile EV range are not terribly useful, but longer range ones with decent EV power are. Compared to EVs, PHEVs have less passenger and cargo space, and require more maintenance. EVs have more promise for future manufacturing cost reductions. With sufficient DC fast charging for long trips, there really is no need for PHEVs.
The market forces are not really working when 45% European tariffs and 100% US tariffs are obscuring the achievable value proposition to consumers.
Thank you for sharing your views on PHEVs.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric Yes, but the market forces are working fine in China, and many countries that they export to in Asia, South America, Africa, even Russia. That is the reason for my opinion.
POLESTAR and ZEEKR are GEELY brands and they are 100% electric. ZEEKR has only been around since 2021 but already have a greater variety of vehicle models and types than TESLA, RIVIAN and LUCID combined.
Neither brand is all electric.
Polestar1 is still for sale by Polestar new and it burns gasoline.
Zeekr has announced upcoming vehicles which burns gasoline.
The big difference of course is that Lotus and Volvo are legacy brands which have been building combustion vehicles for decades. Both promised to go all EV. Both went back on that promise.
Zeekr and Polestar started branding Geely platforms in recent years along with half a dozen other new nameplates globally.
Thanks for commenting.
-Producer Tim
www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news/zeekr-will-reportedly-adopt-hybrid-power/ar-AA1u72eF
www.autonews.com/geely/ane-geely-zeekr-lynk-fusion-costs/
Lotus developing hybrids is extremely disappointing and a big step backwards. All passenger vehicles should transition to BEVs to minimize use of fossil fuel engines. Hybrids are nothing more than a gas car with a tiny battery causing complexity from dual power trains.
Not enough chargers out there John and it doesn’t look good for the next few years. Chargers are either broken, over crowded or non existent.
@ Driving EVs since 2017, I’ve seen a major improvement in public charging and am optimistic for the future. My city in SW Florida just got a 6-stall EA charger installed and we have a Tesla supercharger at permitting level. Charging for condominiums, HOAs, and apartments still remains a major problem.
We now own 3-EVs out of 5 previously purchased and will never go back to gas.
Or, they are looking at the market and realize EVs don't cover everyone's needs and are giving people what they want.
Better than full gasser, not as good as Bev, should at least be plug-ins. Most people don't know how much rain they actually need including some EV drivers.
"No duty on hybrids like there is on EVs." That's just incredibly stupid. Government is the problem, and they're controlled by the oil industry.
I REALLY CAN'T SEE A HYBRID BEING ANY CHEAPER TO BUILD THAN A PURE EV . NOW YOU HAVE TO BUILD A GAS CAR AND ADD ALL EV COMPONENTES JUST LIKE IN PURE EV AND MATE TOTETHER . DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A VERY CHEAP WAY TO BUILD CONSIDERING THE SAVINGS COMPARED TO PURE EV .
ok boomer.
@@laloajuria4678 Where's the CAPS LOCK key, anyhow??
Battery packs are very expensive. Legacy automakers can build an engine and all of the required subsystems for less than $2k.
Legacy automakers are deciding to build PHEVs because their profit opportunity is improved.
Remember, they have hundreds of billions of dollars tied up in ICE infrastructure, labor contracts, and supplier agreements. They can't just write that all off and walk away without going bankrupt.
In America, the franchise dealerships to which legacy auto makers are legally bound make about half of their money on maintenance and repairs. EVs don't need much of either. The pressure to keep service revenues coming is enormous.
It is complicated for the big, old players.
Rivian, Lucid, and Tesla are in a different situation. The logic you've cited is more applicable to them.
-Producer Tim
How many EVs do rich people need? Trickle down to upper middle class and those living on unsustainable credit isn't going to "electrify" the world. Plugin hybrids that don't get plugged in most of the time are more expensive than pure ICE with higher emissions.
Unfortunately it's a business, we had our chance to buy Chevy Bolts. Hopefully soon.
The best EVs on the market can be leased right now for $300/mo which is well below the average automobile payment in the USA today.
For $20k, anybody can pick up an outstanding 2 year old EV with 6 years remaining on the powertrain warranty. Affordable EVs are now widely available.
The Mexico-produced Gen2 Chevy Bolt will be revealed soon. Tesla will announce more affordable models in a few months.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric I've been shopping for a Bolt but the pickings are slim here. People really hold onto them. The Hertz ones are overpriced, beat up, and fugly colors.
Tesla lists used EVs on their web site.
Carvana is also a great resource.
-Producer Tim
Studying engineering at university and working with gullible would-be non-degreed engineers throughout my career taught me to be skeptical, not blindly optimistic about new advances in tech. For every bold claim made by marketing, there is a small army of engineers trying to turn the imperfect science into practical reality and often meeting failure when you treat your R&D as a goal+timeline instead of moving forward after you've succeeded. What separates the doers from the talkers is that responsible engineering delivers before it announces. Honda's claims about some future they haven't yet cracked are no more believable than any other assertion that others have made about the improvements their vaporware battery will bring.
Interesting perspective.
-Producer Tim
I worked in R&D 39 years and had to sort through a lot of bullshit. A lot of these battery claims are to generate capital to pursue development (which they need). Thing is, the tech is moving fast and if you start to build a plant today, in 3 years when you're ready to produce the tech has moved on and it's obsolete. "Always think about where the hockey puck will be, not where it is now."
The big problem with announcements is the Osbourne Effect, where people won't buy today because they've been promised something much better tomorrow.
@james Valid points.
-Producer Tim
Very Disappointing : Volvo and Lotus failing to go all EV...... very.
Geely and BYD aren't following the playbook we like best. They have a lot of information and very wise leadership. The business case must be very strong. -Producer Tim
Thank you for this great episode. The IONIQ 9 seems like a real gem for the large families. Wonder if it gets adaptive dampers.
it does not. its a minivan....
Thanks for tuning in! 🤓
Ioniq 9 won't have active dampers but I would bet the Neolun/Genesis GV90 electric will since it's in the luxury segment with a higher price point that justifies the technology spend.
PHEV is backward in my books,
Around here there are still people driving horse drawn buggies. And many more with pure ICE vehicles.
Thanks for sharing!
-Producer Tim
would be nice if you posted KM on screen
We live in the USA and 95% of our viewership is here. That is why we speak English, use imperial units, and focus on electrification news which will likely affect American audiences.
There are some really great European shows which cater to metric audiences. Have you checked out Fully Charged?
Thanks for joining us!
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric I agree but I live in Canada 🇨🇦 Don't have state it in your Vlog just print it on the screen when editing it please.
Thank you for the suggestion.
-Producer Tim
Better than battery swapping, EZ battery replacement, if Nissan Leaf had employed it, they could have stayed on top. They could have advertised a reasonable price for battery replacement out of warranty, would have been Peace of Mind especially for noobs
When an EV supports battery swapping, replacement is free. Users are paying for the energy.
-Producer Tim
Please state and emphasize the efficiency of each vehicle you review.
When possible we offer range estimates and battery capacity.
We know that some portion of the viewership will do basic arithmetic to derive additional statistics.
Concision is our top priority on The Current. We get into granular technical detail on the Industry channel. Perhaps you'd like to check that one out:
Industry.missgoelectric.com
-Producer Tim
Given the shortcomings of public charging infrastructure, reduced range and inconvenience, huge cost and resource waste to produce batteries, it is no wonder that the vast majority of the car buying market will question the suitability of EVs. So I find it extraordinary that range extended hybrids are not considered the ONLY workable solution until technology solves the big problems.
This might have been a somewhat fair and accurate comment if the year were 2019. In 2024, it is exclusively misinformation. You can update your understanding by tuning into our weekly EV news show:
news.missgoelectric.com
There are over 30 million fully electric vehicles in operation right now. Did you know that the best selling car in the USA and in the world is the Tesla Model Y? Maybe you thought it was a Toyota, Ford, Honda or GM vehicle with a gas powertrain? Times have changed.
EV drivers usually charge conveniently at home, effortlessly adding 300-500 miles of range for ten or fifteen dollars while they sleep. Gas drivers pay 2-3 as much and have to drive to a gas station whenever they want to add range. EV drivers only use public chargers 3-5x per year on average.
EVs are more convenient and less costly to operate
In America there are already more EV charging stations per EV driver than there are gas stations per combustion vehicle driver. I commonly pass 10-20 charging stations for every one I use when I take coast-coast EV road trips. On top of that, any EV can charge on any standard 110v outlet. There are hundreds of millions of those all over America. Electricity is more readily available than gasoline by orders of magnitude.
Range anxiety is old news. Like all fear, it is a form of ignorance which evaporates with education.
Gas drivers suffer far more frequent breakdowns and their automobiles require regular maintenance. Did you know that most internal combustion vehicles receive their original purchase price in service and parts once over before they are scrapped? The typical combustion vehicle goes to a junkyard in 150,000 miles. Today's EVs are built to run for at least twice that with little to no powertrain maintenance.
Gas vehicles burn a fuel which is not renewable, emit deadly fumes, and are 30-60x more likely to catch fire. Gas drivers endure significant fuel prices volatility.
Gas vehicles are slower, have less torque, are noiser, and are statistically less safe.
EV batteries contain valuable materials which is why automakers recycle them. Tesla, the largest EV manufacturer recycles 100% of their batteries. A battery pack will have a service life of 20-40 years and then it will be recycled into a new battery pack. That circular economy benefits Americans. Gasoline transfers our wealth and power to other countries.
I could go on, but this seems like enough for now.
-Producer Tim
EV in the 3-row space is getting pretty crowded. Cadi has two. Lucid, Rivian, Volvo, & the one which will soon be EVERYWHERE, the ID.Buzz. Of the lot, if I was in the market, I would get the I9. Thx for the video.
It never makes sense to have a 3-row SUV… if you’re going to want 3 rows of seats, get a (mini)van, which is much better designed for that purpose
I'll keep driving my Focus until they come up with a replacement! I'm leery of GM but the Bolt2 is on my shopping list. That's the size that will get America into EVs.
Folks with families and dogs need them and they are willing to pay high prices. Legacy automakers in particular need margin on EVs. They are not very efficient at building them for many reasons we've gone into previously. The path for legacy automakers to EV relevance is narrow. That's why they seem to be following the same playbook.
Fortunately, Tesla and other high volume EV makers continue to make great progress regarding costs and, ultimately, affordability.
Thanks for commenting!
-Producer Tim
Thanks for the channel and updates. Would be great to hear statics in metric as well. As most other parts of the globe uses metric. Plus, with the EV, tech and interest, the USA is already far behind many around the world.
Thank you for watching!
We are based in the USA and 95% of our audience is here, too. To provide maximum clarity and deliver the most information in the least time for our core audience, we will continue with imperial measurements.
Hopefully there are some other news sources in metric countries which can deliver the informational density we strive for.
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric Our 'Murican cars are all metric. Except for the tire sizes and "horsepower".
I'm not a fan of battery swapping station.
Have you used one?
Why do you think 60 million swaps have been chosen by EV drivers in Europe and Asia? Those vehicles ALSO accept conventional charging. That is quite a few voluntary instances of choosing to swap instead of charging.
What might that volume of data tell us about real world desirability of that service?
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric Most of the "Swap" are for scooters, which I think is Ok, due to there low autonomy.
@@MissGoElectric I would never swap my Tesla battery if I could. I take good care of my battery & dont want to get à spent battery. Also the cost is way more than just charging & 95% of my charging is at home.
Battery swapping is a really bad idea, second only to hybrid vehicles.
I think it will fade away with more, faster charging and longer life batteries.
Why do you think 60 million swaps have been chosen by EV drivers in Europe and Asia? Those vehicles ALSO accept conventional charging. That is quite a few voluntary instances of choosing to swap instead of charging.
What might that volume of data tell us about real world desirability of that service?
-Producer Tim
Wouldn't buy a car from Vietnam even if half the price of a US, Korean or Japanese vehicle
In the 70s, many said the same about Japanese cars. In the 90s, they said it about Korean cars.
Have you driven a Vinfast?
-Producer Tim
Erevs are a terrible and unnecessary step back.
Are they preferable to strictly ICE?
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectric Preach.
@@MissGoElectric we need to move towards pure EV everywhere possible as quickly as possible, period.
We can no longer afford these nonsense hybrid or hydrogen half measures in the road vehicle space.
We are on an ever tightening timeline upon which human lives depend in the short, medium, and long term. Anything other than EV for road vehicles at this point is explicitly unethical and immoral.
@@MissGoElectric evs are the way forward, period.
This is a time sensitive issue. There's no time for these nonsense half measures like any of the species of hybrids or hydrogen for road vehicles. Human lives are dependent on this in the short, medium, and long term. Doing anything else at this point is immoral and unethical.
PHEV = backwards
Thanks for chiming in!
-Producer Tim
Lotus sold 6,970 in 2023. Meaningless brand in the big picture
Geely wants to have a foothold in every nook and cranny of the global automotive business. They sell millions of vehicles per year... the aggregate of its many many brands. Every little bit counts.
-Producer Tim
Lotus will fail.
Interesting prediction. Remember, Geely is the purse strings and those pockets are deep. They want every imaginable demographic to be targeted by their many brands. There is certainly a minimum viable sales figure but the scale of Geely enables that figure to be much lower than one might initially presume. -Producer Tim
Geely will not.
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