"Chevalier: Though I cannot say how, I believe you have cheated me. On an unrelated note, your manservant has a lot of weird nervous tics that he should really see a doctor about."
@@madaemon I think he knows, but it's a matter of, men of that station are not supposed to stoop to cheating, because they are all rich anyways. So, he doesn't want to lower himself by even attempting to think about the mechanics of it. However, at a certain point, he realized he was losing too heavily and improbably.
He can be seen a an older man in the last episode of Band of Brothers as the German officer who’s address to his men when surrendering the is where the term Band of Brothers is used.
Masterpiece... my mother took me to see the movie when I was a kid. I'll newer forget that afternoon in Milan, my city. I can see and see again this movie.... Marco
This scene has maintained in my memory over the thirty years or more since I first saw this movie. The Prince was no fool, and the Chevalier wasn't backing down. The most underrated and overlooked of all of Kubrick's films.
I don't think that's true. I would watch this one over any of the others based on the aesthetic quality of the movie and the simple, yet complicated storyline. The only other movie of Kubrick's that I find as continuously enjoyable is 2001@@vinny142
Also some required formality that must be stated for the record, similar to a modern day judicial proceeding. The Chevalier is accused by the Prince, and must be clear that he denies the accusation (charges) and asks for the evidence (discovery). The next formal step is the duel, which would be equivalent to the modern day trial. Of course, with the Prince being so Politically connected, the trial will not be allowed to take place.
"you owe 15,500 fredrick'dor" It's an extremely satisfying mixture of anger and disbelief. Like someone telling you that you won the lottery but you're not allowed to spend any of the prize money.
Magnificent, fantastic storytelling, beautifully filmed, great emotive non dialogue sequences, well paced. I absolutely love this movie for some reason, it just talks to me. I love Kubrick’s style.
Each character has a distinct individual style, even if they wear similar clothing. The Chevalier's eye-patch is such a great affectation (if it is actually an affectation), and the Prince has some of the finest hollow cheeks I've ever seen on a man. A small scene, but it's so perfect in every way.
Value of the amount may be 4.5 million euro January 2022. Given a fredrich d'or is 90% gold and weighs 6.682g= 6.0138g of gold; round down to 6g gold per coin. 6x 15500coins= 93Kg of gold Price of a kg this week approx 50k euro. 4.65million euro, allow for bulk buy value. 4.5million euro!
I love translating historical values into contemporary amounts. I find myself doing it all the time when watching old movies from the 30s, 40s, and 50s. "Honey, they were offering me $50 a week at this new job! Fifty dollars a week !!".
Yes 4.5 million is an extremely accurate estimate. That kind of purchasing power was well documented in 18th century Europe. They established trading companies for less. Some of these princes had *personal armies* that were later absorbed into the greater Prussian empire and thus became Germany.
Yes, I never bought into the idea that Barry's presence and involvement in it was not overwhelmingly obvious to the Prince. Plus, anyone experienced at a game table like that would know all too well to keep a sharp eye out for cheaters and signals. But then, the Price was correct, he knew he had been cheated.
a nice little detail i had never picked until now : at the bottom of the deck at 0:37 is the 4 of clubs, the same card the chevallier uses to cheat lord Ludd
Note that Piquet is a game played with a 32 card deck, the lowest card of which is a seven. The Prince of Tübingen must be pretty dull not to notice such an obvious cheat.
@@MidnightBlue766he may have been slightly intoxicated. It happens to the best of us. You've clearly never met a con artist in your life. Edit: the game was expected to be played with honor especially for such high amounts. If caught cheating. The consequences would be severe.
Among my favorite scenes in B.L. (And boy, are there many!) The prince of Tübingen gives SK the best chance to give the viewer the Kubrick Stare. And does it work--chillingly well.
@@brettmitchell1777 I've always heard that an ounce of gold bought in the eighteenth century just what it buys today. The specific example often given is back the, an ounce of gold bought a suit from a tailor, and today, an ounce of gold (around $1500) can also buy you a tailored suit.
@@monkeycarz Yeah I’ve heard same all the way back to ancient Roman times regarding buying a nobleman’s toga and sandals etc. The cost of land and workers wages is higher in relative terms. It may be that gold is very underpriced today, even at $2,000. I think its more like 20 or 50,000 to get today what could have been bought in Lyndon’s time. Remember he is playing cards with a fabulously wealthy man. A multibillionaire oligarch type in todays terms. Who gambles large sums for entertainment. $6m (15,500 coins of 6grams gold, ie 93kgs) isn’t such a big deal. $60 to $150m and he’s willing to burn the Chevalier and not care who knows it.
Secretly?! He attempted to run away with his "best friend" but got caught and his dad had his "best friend" executed. I'd say that it is pretty clear what he fancied.
Of course he knew how he was being cheated... it's bloody obvious. But if he was to challenge the Chevalier's honor, then the Chevalier probably had an alibi or a ruse or something up his sleeve. So he says "I do not know how." It's a power move. He's a Prince. He doesn't need to prove "how." The mere suggestion that the Chevalier has the balls to cheat a Prince is enough to ruin the Chevalier. Nobody's going to want to play cards with someone who is a suspected cheat. That's why the Chevalier begs him "to say how you have been cheated." If he stoops to the Chevalier's level, that means they're equals... but they're not. That's the whole point. "I am at your disposal" is the 17th century equivalent of "come at me bro!" The Prince knows the Chevalier ain't got shit on him. The Chevalier can't even arrange a duel, because the Prince is banging Frederick the Great. If the duel is arranged, and Redmond Barry wins... then the Chevalier might pay with his life for dishonoring the Prince. If they arrange a duel and lose, then they don't get their money. Either way, they're coming out with less than they started. Moral of the story: You a small fry. Don't try to eat a fish bigger than you, cause she might just swallow you up.
oh yeah. This movie really demands to know manners of Fêtes galantes. Without this knowledge the movie would be just about wigs and guns for a common viewer.
I love how understated this scene is. It's basically the turning point for both the Chevalier and Redmond as their station in life within this particular kingdom has reached its final conclusion. Unlike Lord Ludd they could have an honorable resolution to unpaid debt, but with the Prince of Tubingen, their status couldn't afford such a parlay, and it was basically the end of road for them. I'd hateto be a subject living in this Prince's territory
Axonis ... He was certainly astute. He sensed a scam, and was perhaps not merely the type of noble that would dismiss a debt to the lower classes. The Chevalier got greedy and was winning too much, like the pair of cheaters in Scorsese’s “Casino.” But Redmond was lucky. This event led to his secure crossing of the Prussian border.
I disagree. Tübingen was finished. As a close member of the Prussian royal family he couldn't afford to have his reputation tarnished. I think Frederick II punished him.
@@antoinemozart243 Tubingen is in southwest Germany. More precisely near Wurtemmburg, as I recall. Now a famous university town like Cambridge. The Prince is a friend, and perhaps a relative of Frederick but the area is Catholic and more influenced by the Emperor in Vienna. Frederick wouldn't have such power over him for gambling debts. That said, my great grandfather's family were advisors in Stuttgart to the Electors, and later Dukes and Kaisers of Wurtemmburg. They were a bunch of perverted nuts and it would be best to avoid messing with them. Too noble for even another Prince to duel with, the best that could be done would be to damage his reputation subtlely. This would be risky and couldn't get your money. Best to just avoid people too powerful to kill if you're going to pursue this lifestyle.
The Prince be like "15,500 Friedrich d'or! Fuck that shit! #1, I'm a Prince and you're just a Chevalier, and #2, my boyfriend is the King of Prussia. So you can fuck off with your bill!" Lmao
Interesting point, I suppose that is why it was called the "wild" west. Here though, the Prince knows he has the power, and that there is nothing the chevalier nor Barry can do about it. If they tried, King Frederick would make them regret it.
18thC nobleman always had his footmen (bodyguards) on hand for protection. There was no messing with these guys. They could have you disappeared in the blink of an eye.
I just imagine the two of them pissing themselves with laughter at how they managed to cheat the Prince after he leaves and Barry closes the door on him
However, the Prince smelled a rat and because he was playing on credit, he actually had the last laugh because he refused to pay his marker. The Chevalier and Barry could do nothing about it.
Actually, although Barry was a simpleton and didn't know squat, the Chevalier knew that at this moment, it was the end for both of them. The prince was a prince, and it was the nobility that wielded the power.
My uncles were in this movie as British redcoats. I always found that funny because they were Irish men and at the time apparently Stanley Kubrick was threatened by the IRA for British redcoats in the movie.
A lot of soldiers at the time were Irish. Especially in the Napoleonic era following this. The IRA were really annoying and desperate in the 70s so that isn't surprising.
The "Chevalier" is well played here: the shifty eyes betraying the none-too-brave cheat. Not sure how can you call being a wandering gambler, "an honourable profession" but that would be "Enlightenment" thinking presumably.
Wandering gambler, or stationary gambler - it is an honourable profession. I follow the stationary gambler path. To some degree of success, however I am glad I don't have to fight over my money.
People in those days thought that there was an underlying "science" to cards especially, and bestowed quite a lot of societal honor onto people with that skill unless they outwardly put on an unfavorable appearance of cheating or other graceless countenance. Nowadays its just degenerates with scratch off lotto tickets spending the money they sold their food stamp card for.
@@Richard-Vlk In the book, IIRC, Lyndon makes a similar point, criticising the hipocrisy of 'respectable' merchants who disdain gambling yet make their money speculating on prices of trade goods.
You have a gay mind. What your filthy mind immediately assumes is ,something that the prince is not implying. The word intimate does not exclusively have a sexual meaning. You are an uncultured ignoramous and a product of the mentally ill society you live in.
DescriptionFaro, Pharaoh, Pharao, or Farobank is a late 17th-century French gambling card game. It is descended from Basset, and belongs to the Lansquenet and Monte Bank family of games due to the use of a banker and several players. Winning or losing occurs when cards turned up by the banker match those already exposed
I hate how this movie makes robbery, cheating, usurpation, impersonization and any other vice appear almost honorable. In the end when Lord Bullington challenges Barry to a duel to protect what's "left" of his estate; he's made to look like a spoiled brat.
I would disagree. Lord Bullington came across as the hero of the story to me. The movie is interesting in that it does not cariacature,...e.g. the hero can have unattractive flaws, and the villain (Barry Lyndon) can be personable to some extent.
@monkeycarz It is a captivating movie. In no other period piece are you transported back in time more effectively. It's Kubrick at his best. I just have a difficult time liking any of the characters.
one of the best examples of a movie filmed entirely using "practical lights"....a cinematic term where the lighting of the scene is visible in the shot, so here the source of lighting is purely from the chandelier that we see and the candles on the table, most movies are lit by movie lights that are off camera, with an occasional shot using "practical lights" such as a table lamp in a dimly lit room, but Kubrick took it to another level in Barry Lyndon by having every scene photographed using practicals, he did a similar thing with " The Shining" but Barry Lyndon is quite special in that respect.
then15500 friedrich d'or equaled then 77500 prussian reichthaler which equals how many dollars in todays money??? i tried to search it but couldnt find it
Apparently the friedrich d'or was 6.03 grams of 21 karat gold, which would put the value of the gold somewhere around $3,000,000 US. But I don't know if that's really an accurate translation of the currency's value. And that's just based off what gold is trading at the day I posted this. I think the price of gold has gotten a lot more volatile since the US went off the gold standard, plus our dollars really aren't worth the paper they are printed on in terms of intrinsic value.
@@marzilyas But an ounce of gold today still buys a tailor made suit, just as it did 250 years ago. Also, it's 50,500 Frederich d'or, so it works out to $12,700,000 USD.
Much closer to how people were in these times, much more violent than now (despite what people believe) in real history .. here two wealthy and sophisticated men basically are talking about fighting with guns or swords not small knives, this in a time when surgery was crude and infection very real .. duels and the use of personal violence at the very top of society was common place, a a man was expected to accept such challenges or be labeled a coward.
Although King Frederick would never have allowed such a contest to take place between the favored Prince and the Chevalier/Redmond. Consequently, later in the script, the Chevalier was sent packing,.. The Prince wielded enormous power, and I love this scene in part for how well personal understanding of that is conveyed.
@@monkeycarz Yes agreed within the context of this film, but the history of extreme violence at this level of society in real history, I find illuminating.
At the same time, we would never have a system like wartime parole in the modern era. The wars of the early modern era were not as intense and rarely had the same stakes. When we fight wars today, we pretend that the enemy is objectively morally in the wrong and has forfeited any consideration of sovereignty, right, or recourse to anything but the war tribunal we set up for him. The 18th century was a system set up by and for men like the Prince of Tubingen, who settled their disputes within a very strict set of ideas of what was honorable.
@@IPlayWithFire135 agreed for the officer class but not 99% of soldiers on the battlefield, as for the nature of war itself it was hellish for all concerned.
@@IPlayWithFire135 People in the mid-18th century still remembered the bloody mayhem and slaughter of the wars of religion the previous century. Nobody wanted a return to that.
PARA LOS QUE NO ENTIENDEN INGLÉS: -Alto matufia me saliste, tuerto del orto. Ahora sabés qué?... No te pago un sorete! -Dame la guita, papá! ... No te zarpés conmigo que te pico todo, gatooo! -Chau, gil. Arrancá!
I love how people use to argue back in the day. It’s so beautiful and aesthetically enriching. This days all we do is yell at each other like brutish animals and we are the ones who are few centuries “ahead” of this people and yet we act like uninvolved apes.
when making observation about the ways of XVIIIth century from this film, one must remember that they concern the top 1% of the society of the time. (which by the way still exists). The rest was in fact much more violent than today's.
@@thirael The nobility had a strict code of conduct dictating what fork you used for each course of a meal. The Prince is being polite here, of course, to the extent befitting a man of his station above the lowly Chevalier, but he is also essentially saying "I'm not paying you. You're free to try your luck with me in a duel, but I'll kill you."
German or French would be the likely choices. French was the de facto lingua franca of European courts from Lisbon to Petersburg and the language of diplomacy. It's unlikely they would be using English, though it's very possible someone like Tubingen would speak it and humor the Chevalier's preference. It was common for the upper nobility to have a grasp of 5+ languages. Bismarck famously spoke German, French, English, Polish, Hungarian, Italian, and Danish to one degree or another, in addition to his classical education.
Life lession kids: *Sometimes* it really pays off to sleep with the boss...😆 Its no necessarily a bad thing; connections is what opens doors for you in life and the prince just did what he, considering his orientation, would have done anyway. People just want you to think its wrong, if they can't do it themselves, because its considering as "cheating" in the game of society by NOT having to pay for you successes with hard struggles.Think about it...
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"Chevalier: Though I cannot say how, I believe you have cheated me. On an unrelated note, your manservant has a lot of weird nervous tics that he should really see a doctor about."
"I deny your grace's accusation and beg you to say how you have been cheated. On the topic of my manservant. He's Hungarian, dare I say any more?"
"He's also been standing right over my shoulder this entire time. I SHALL figure out how you have cheated me. Eventually."
@@madaemon I think he knows, but it's a matter of, men of that station are not supposed to stoop to cheating, because they are all rich anyways. So, he doesn't want to lower himself by even attempting to think about the mechanics of it. However, at a certain point, he realized he was losing too heavily and improbably.
The prince of Turbingen has a fantastic face.
He can be seen a an older man in the last episode of Band of Brothers as the German officer who’s address to his men when surrendering the is where the term Band of Brothers is used.
He was also in Indiana Jones: Riders of the Lost Ark
I get lost in it
And what a magnificent man he still was in that scene as well.
@@klausheino6986 Yes, and in Raiders of the Lost Ark his fantastic face gets melted, not so fantastic after that.
Handsome Squidward
Understood
Masterpiece... my mother took me to see the movie when I was a kid. I'll newer forget that afternoon in Milan, my city. I can see and see again this movie.... Marco
Did you see the dirty parts of the movie 😮
I love how he pronounced "Chevalier". So clear & elegant.
This scene has maintained in my memory over the thirty years or more since I first saw this movie. The Prince was no fool, and the Chevalier wasn't backing down. The most underrated and overlooked of all of Kubrick's films.
Not anymore..
No fool? The chevalier's manservant is looking over his shoulder the entire game, and yet he can't figure out how the chevalier was cheating. 😑
"The most underrated and overlooked of all of Kubrick's films."
And yet, if this was not made by Kubrick you would not give it a second viewing.
I don't think that's true. I would watch this one over any of the others based on the aesthetic quality of the movie and the simple, yet complicated storyline. The only other movie of Kubrick's that I find as continuously enjoyable is 2001@@vinny142
Wolf Kahler may have played a Nazi kommandant in Raiders, but I find him way scarier as an 18th century prince in a powdered wig and caked in makeup.
appledoze ... And the candlelight enhances the scare.
You have cheated me and now I will take what I wish, and then decide whether or not to blow your ship from zee vater
Thank you! I knew I'd seen him, and I hate to use IMDB if I think I can figure it out (although you did ;)
it makes him look grotesque and unnatural rather than comical and effeminate
@@daveygivens735 Also surrendering German general in Band of Brothers. You cannot mistake that jawline. :D
The fact that the prince was well acquainted with Frederick was all the assurance he needed to walk away from the table unbothered by his debt.
This scene is so understated in presence and acting, yet extremely powerful; only Kubrick could do it so well
Yeah, only Kubrick could shoot the dialogue verbatim from the book somebody else wrote and hire good actors to recite the lines with competence.
@@mskidi Have you ever read the book??
What about Tarantino?
Next time I lose at poker...”I feel I have been cheated. I don’t know how, but if you want your money...you must fight me for it.”
“Security” yells the local poker assistant.
Pale cutie
Hahaha.
trouble is the response wouldn't be as elegant😂
I am at your disposal.. for whatever purposes you wish
Love the music.
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Ekvitarius Thank you for that 🙏🏻
@@Ekvitarius Than k you for the link. Much appreciated. The world needs people like you with wonderful esoteric tastes.
@@Ekvitarius gracias 🇨🇱
The guy playing the prince also plays the German general who asks to give a speech to his soldiers at the end of Band of Brothers.
Wolf Kahler is his name.
“I deny your graces accusation”
Now that’s a true con artist, even when accused he comes off so innocent
Also some required formality that must be stated for the record, similar to a modern day judicial proceeding. The Chevalier is accused by the Prince, and must be clear that he denies the accusation (charges) and asks for the evidence (discovery). The next formal step is the duel, which would be equivalent to the modern day trial. Of course, with the Prince being so Politically connected, the trial will not be allowed to take place.
The Prince of Turbingen's Kubrick Stare is underrated.
"you owe 15,500 fredrick'dor" It's an extremely satisfying mixture of anger and disbelief. Like someone telling you that you won the lottery but you're not allowed to spend any of the prize money.
The light, the music and dialogues. Kubrick is truly the master
"You are not in a position to ask for anything. We will take what we wish, and then decide whether or not to blow your ship from the water."
Raiders of the Lost Ark.
A clear act of piracy and statement of war in 1936
@@rascallyrabbit717 ok
Magnificent, fantastic storytelling, beautifully filmed, great emotive non dialogue sequences, well paced. I absolutely love this movie for some reason, it just talks to me. I love Kubrick’s style.
Each character has a distinct individual style, even if they wear similar clothing. The Chevalier's eye-patch is such a great affectation (if it is actually an affectation), and the Prince has some of the finest hollow cheeks I've ever seen on a man. A small scene, but it's so perfect in every way.
You punch those and you start writing with your feets
Value of the amount may be 4.5 million euro January 2022. Given a fredrich d'or is 90% gold and weighs 6.682g= 6.0138g of gold; round down to 6g gold per coin.
6x 15500coins= 93Kg of gold
Price of a kg this week approx 50k euro. 4.65million euro, allow for bulk buy value. 4.5million euro!
I love translating historical values into contemporary amounts. I find myself doing it all the time when watching old movies from the 30s, 40s, and 50s.
"Honey, they were offering me $50 a week at this new job! Fifty dollars a week !!".
Yes 4.5 million is an extremely accurate estimate. That kind of purchasing power was well documented in 18th century Europe. They established trading companies for less. Some of these princes had *personal armies* that were later absorbed into the greater Prussian empire and thus became Germany.
I love how natural Kubrick always shot his dialogue scenes. There are pauses and reactions that happen organically as if you're actually there.
I agree. It is small things such as this modern directors are only to happy to dispense with. Shame.
And the award for the best jawline goes to...
The cinematography is simply sublime. Each shot looks like everyone in it just posed.
EVERY bit part in this film is played to perfection!
he can't figure out how he was cheated......with his opponent's butler standing behind his right shoulder!!
Yes, I never bought into the idea that Barry's presence and involvement in it was not overwhelmingly obvious to the Prince. Plus, anyone experienced at a game table like that would know all too well to keep a sharp eye out for cheaters and signals. But then, the Price was correct, he knew he had been cheated.
This movie makes me love the language!!
Damn that dude is like 700% German what the fuck
I heard one of his ancestors came to a sticky end, when he tried opening the ark of the covenant.
a nice little detail i had never picked until now : at the bottom of the deck at 0:37 is the 4 of clubs, the same card the chevallier uses to cheat lord Ludd
Note that Piquet is a game played with a 32 card deck, the lowest card of which is a seven. The Prince of Tübingen must be pretty dull not to notice such an obvious cheat.
@@MidnightBlue766 some older decks have Aces arranged with one in each corner, rather than two opposite corners as in modern decks.
@@MidnightBlue766he may have been slightly intoxicated. It happens to the best of us. You've clearly never met a con artist in your life.
Edit: the game was expected to be played with honor especially for such high amounts. If caught cheating. The consequences would be severe.
Among my favorite scenes in B.L. (And boy, are there many!)
The prince of Tübingen gives SK the best chance to give the viewer the Kubrick Stare. And does it work--chillingly well.
He is the most german prince looking german prince i've ever seen.
50,500 of those coins had a gold value equivalent to $15,000,000 USD in today's dollars.
Might be worth considering relative purchasing power. I’d suggest 93 kg of gold bought you a far higher relative standard of living than today.
@@brettmitchell1777 I've always heard that an ounce of gold bought in the eighteenth century just what it buys today. The specific example often given is back the, an ounce of gold bought a suit from a tailor, and today, an ounce of gold (around $1500) can also buy you a tailored suit.
@@monkeycarz
Yeah I’ve heard same all the way back to ancient Roman times regarding buying a nobleman’s toga and sandals etc.
The cost of land and workers wages is higher in relative terms.
It may be that gold is very underpriced today, even at $2,000.
I think its more like 20 or 50,000 to get today what could have been bought in Lyndon’s time.
Remember he is playing cards with a fabulously wealthy man. A multibillionaire oligarch type in todays terms. Who gambles large sums for entertainment. $6m (15,500 coins of 6grams gold, ie 93kgs) isn’t such a big deal. $60 to $150m and he’s willing to burn the Chevalier and not care who knows it.
'Intimately' connected with The Great Frederick....hehheheheh
he was very fond of play
I don't tink it was secret, it was his own government that did the secret thing. He was rather open about it.
Secretly?! He attempted to run away with his "best friend" but got caught and his dad had his "best friend" executed. I'd say that it is pretty clear what he fancied.
TheHasanMurat is he the one barry see when stealing the horse?
"He was passionately fond of play" ; )
Of course he knew how he was being cheated... it's bloody obvious. But if he was to challenge the Chevalier's honor, then the Chevalier probably had an alibi or a ruse or something up his sleeve. So he says "I do not know how." It's a power move.
He's a Prince. He doesn't need to prove "how." The mere suggestion that the Chevalier has the balls to cheat a Prince is enough to ruin the Chevalier. Nobody's going to want to play cards with someone who is a suspected cheat. That's why the Chevalier begs him "to say how you have been cheated." If he stoops to the Chevalier's level, that means they're equals... but they're not. That's the whole point.
"I am at your disposal" is the 17th century equivalent of "come at me bro!" The Prince knows the Chevalier ain't got shit on him. The Chevalier can't even arrange a duel, because the Prince is banging Frederick the Great. If the duel is arranged, and Redmond Barry wins... then the Chevalier might pay with his life for dishonoring the Prince. If they arrange a duel and lose, then they don't get their money. Either way, they're coming out with less than they started.
Moral of the story: You a small fry. Don't try to eat a fish bigger than you, cause she might just swallow you up.
oh yeah. This movie really demands to know manners of Fêtes galantes. Without this knowledge the movie would be just about wigs and guns for a common viewer.
Good analysis, but "intimate" doesn't necessarily mean he was a lover of Frederick the Great. Could of just meant he was in the King's inner circle.
@@artlover1477 Sure, the "intimate" can have more meanings, but homosexuality of Frederick the Great has its own page on the Wikipedia.
I love how understated this scene is. It's basically the turning point for both the Chevalier and Redmond as their station in life within this particular kingdom has reached its final conclusion. Unlike Lord Ludd they could have an honorable resolution to unpaid debt, but with the Prince of Tubingen, their status couldn't afford such a parlay, and it was basically the end of road for them. I'd hateto be a subject living in this Prince's territory
I disagree. I would love being a subject living under the ironfisted yet just rule of this noble prince.
Axonis ... He was certainly astute. He sensed a scam, and was perhaps not merely the type of noble that would dismiss a debt to the lower classes.
The Chevalier got greedy and was winning too much, like the pair of cheaters in Scorsese’s “Casino.”
But Redmond was lucky. This event led to his secure crossing of the Prussian border.
Perhaps it is the key turning point for their fortunes. The Chevalier played with power when his purpose was only wealth.
I disagree. Tübingen was finished. As a close member of the Prussian royal family he couldn't afford to have his reputation tarnished. I think Frederick II punished him.
@@antoinemozart243 Tubingen is in southwest Germany. More precisely near Wurtemmburg, as I recall. Now a famous university town like Cambridge. The Prince is a friend, and perhaps a relative of Frederick but the area is Catholic and more influenced by the Emperor in Vienna. Frederick wouldn't have such power over him for gambling debts. That said, my great grandfather's family were advisors in Stuttgart to the Electors, and later Dukes and Kaisers of Wurtemmburg. They were a bunch of perverted nuts and it would be best to avoid messing with them. Too noble for even another Prince to duel with, the best that could be done would be to damage his reputation subtlely. This would be risky and couldn't get your money. Best to just avoid people too powerful to kill if you're going to pursue this lifestyle.
This is such a masterfully directed film! It's has if Rembrandt himself decided to direct a film.
Read the book by Thackaray
The Prince be like "15,500 Friedrich d'or! Fuck that shit! #1, I'm a Prince and you're just a Chevalier, and #2, my boyfriend is the King of Prussia. So you can fuck off with your bill!" Lmao
pretty much. or, it could be that the prince knows he was cheated simply because he lost.
pretty much. or, it could be that the prince knows he was cheated simply because he lost.
The King. of Prussia is not his boyfriend , you moron !
The prince was very cautious as well. He brought his own secretary to document the P&L. Talking about German.
Thats "Prince of Tübingen", not "Turbingen"
Ja wohl!
Fredrik Häll ... An important distinction. But perhaps their keyboard, like mine, won’t cooperate. (Makes me madder than hell!)
g0679 if you don’t have an umlaut you use an e (Tuebingen), not an r
Thackeray had to change the name after the contemporary Prince of Tübingen objected if I remember correctly.
@@jhgrayson Actually there never was a Prince of Tübingen. They were counts and later counts palatinate.
If this happened in a western saloon, prince would have been blown away.
Interesting point, I suppose that is why it was called the "wild" west. Here though, the Prince knows he has the power, and that there is nothing the chevalier nor Barry can do about it. If they tried, King Frederick would make them regret it.
And then the prince joined into facists and became Indiana Jones' nemesis.
Catinkontti ... By Golly, he really did!
This has got to be reincarnation, or time travel, or ... SORCERY.
"Chevalier...come, let us speak in a random language neither of us really use!"
18thC nobleman always had his footmen (bodyguards) on hand for protection. There was no messing with these guys. They could have you disappeared in the blink of an eye.
By refusing to pay without proving the Chevalier has cheated, the reputation of the Prince was in jeopardy and of course the king's by proxy.
No it wasn't. It was over for Redmond and the chevalier. Their gig was up
@@seltonk5136Losing to the Prince would be infinitely more profitable.
Chevalier... if you will have your money now... you must fight for it.
Shades of Lloyd the bartender from The Shining. Or perhaps Lloyd was the shade.
I just imagine the two of them pissing themselves with laughter at how they managed to cheat the Prince after he leaves and Barry closes the door on him
However, the Prince smelled a rat and because he was playing on credit, he actually had the last laugh because he refused to pay his marker. The Chevalier and Barry could do nothing about it.
Actually, although Barry was a simpleton and didn't know squat, the Chevalier knew that at this moment, it was the end for both of them. The prince was a prince, and it was the nobility that wielded the power.
They didn't cheat him. They got caught ya spoon
My uncles were in this movie as British redcoats. I always found that funny because they were Irish men and at the time apparently Stanley Kubrick was threatened by the IRA for British redcoats in the movie.
A lot of soldiers at the time were Irish. Especially in the Napoleonic era following this.
The IRA were really annoying and desperate in the 70s so that isn't surprising.
That guy was in his feelings
"No real man has a Gigachad jawli-"
...still gave tips on his way out. How classy!
You see, if duels were still legal, people would still be this polite.
"I am at your disposal for whatever purposes you wish."
he looks like Woody Harrelson
The "Chevalier" is well played here: the shifty eyes betraying the none-too-brave cheat. Not sure how can you call being a wandering gambler, "an honourable profession" but that would be "Enlightenment" thinking presumably.
Wandering gambler, or stationary gambler - it is an honourable profession. I follow the stationary gambler path. To some degree of success, however I am glad I don't have to fight over my money.
People in those days thought that there was an underlying "science" to cards especially, and bestowed quite a lot of societal honor onto people with that skill unless they outwardly put on an unfavorable appearance of cheating or other graceless countenance. Nowadays its just degenerates with scratch off lotto tickets spending the money they sold their food stamp card for.
@@jeffn9825 Today some people think there is an underlying "science" to stock markets :-)
@@Richard-Vlk In the book, IIRC, Lyndon makes a similar point, criticising the hipocrisy of 'respectable' merchants who disdain gambling yet make their money speculating on prices of trade goods.
15500?The biggest problem with cheaters. They get greedy and forget you're supposed to lose from time to time.
God, the tempo... Is perfect
Ray Davies was in Barry Lindon?
“I am at your disposal, for any purposes that you wish”. Could a gayer thing have been said?
You have a gay mind. What your filthy mind immediately assumes is ,something that the prince is not implying. The word intimate does not exclusively have a sexual meaning. You are an uncultured ignoramous and a product of the mentally ill society you live in.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what card game they are playing? Thanks.
DescriptionFaro, Pharaoh, Pharao, or Farobank is a late 17th-century French gambling card game. It is descended from Basset, and belongs to the Lansquenet and Monte Bank family of games due to the use of a banker and several players. Winning or losing occurs when cards turned up by the banker match those already exposed
I have said all there is to be said.
He plays the German guy in every other movie.
Nazi German officer to be specific
His name is Wolf Kahler; and as his name suggests, he is very, very German. :P
lol! So true. xD
His face is very barbaric, in a good way.
Bro is a Chad
More like the Gigachad of Tübignen.
I hate how this movie makes robbery, cheating, usurpation, impersonization and any other vice appear almost honorable.
In the end when Lord Bullington challenges Barry to a duel to protect what's "left" of his estate; he's made to look like a spoiled brat.
I would disagree. Lord Bullington came across as the hero of the story to me. The movie is interesting in that it does not cariacature,...e.g. the hero can have unattractive flaws, and the villain (Barry Lyndon) can be personable to some extent.
@monkeycarz It is a captivating movie.
In no other period piece are you transported back in time more effectively.
It's Kubrick at his best.
I just have a difficult time liking any of the characters.
one of the best examples of a movie filmed entirely using "practical lights"....a cinematic term where the lighting of the scene is visible in the shot, so here the source of lighting is purely from the chandelier that we see and the candles on the table, most movies are lit by movie lights that are off camera, with an occasional shot using "practical lights" such as a table lamp in a dimly lit room, but Kubrick took it to another level in Barry Lyndon by having every scene photographed using practicals, he did a similar thing with " The Shining" but Barry Lyndon is quite special in that respect.
Largest jawline ever.
Mewing goals
calmest accusation of cheating in history of the world.
i didn't know steven berkoff was one of the interrogators in ACO till now
Chad Turbingen
What's the music?
Great scene
Does anyone know the name of the background piece?
National Philharmonic Orchestra- Film Adaptation Of The Cavatina From "Il Barbiere Di Siviglia"
Composed By - Giovanni Paisiello
Its called a wall.
@@monkeycarz Thank you.
Top 10 movies of all time...easily
then15500 friedrich d'or equaled then 77500 prussian reichthaler which equals how many dollars in todays money??? i tried to search it but couldnt find it
d'or implies gold pieces, so wouldn't you just find out how much each coin weighed and go from there?
Apparently the friedrich d'or was 6.03 grams of 21 karat gold, which would put the value of the gold somewhere around $3,000,000 US. But I don't know if that's really an accurate translation of the currency's value. And that's just based off what gold is trading at the day I posted this. I think the price of gold has gotten a lot more volatile since the US went off the gold standard, plus our dollars really aren't worth the paper they are printed on in terms of intrinsic value.
Gold doesn't really have any "intrinsic value" either. It is shiny and it doesn't rust. That's it.
@@marzilyas But an ounce of gold today still buys a tailor made suit, just as it did 250 years ago. Also, it's 50,500 Frederich d'or, so it works out to $12,700,000 USD.
This guy also played a german general in "Band of Brothers", surrender scene.
Is there a Prince of Turbingen today?
Much closer to how people were in these times, much more violent than now (despite what people believe) in real history .. here two wealthy and sophisticated men basically are talking about fighting with guns or swords not small knives, this in a time when surgery was crude and infection very real .. duels and the use of personal violence at the very top of society was common place, a a man was expected to accept such challenges or be labeled a coward.
Although King Frederick would never have allowed such a contest to take place between the favored Prince and the Chevalier/Redmond. Consequently, later in the script, the Chevalier was sent packing,.. The Prince wielded enormous power, and I love this scene in part for how well personal understanding of that is conveyed.
@@monkeycarz Yes agreed within the context of this film, but the history of extreme violence at this level of society in real history, I find illuminating.
At the same time, we would never have a system like wartime parole in the modern era. The wars of the early modern era were not as intense and rarely had the same stakes. When we fight wars today, we pretend that the enemy is objectively morally in the wrong and has forfeited any consideration of sovereignty, right, or recourse to anything but the war tribunal we set up for him. The 18th century was a system set up by and for men like the Prince of Tubingen, who settled their disputes within a very strict set of ideas of what was honorable.
@@IPlayWithFire135 agreed for the officer class but not 99% of soldiers on the battlefield, as for the nature of war itself it was hellish for all concerned.
@@IPlayWithFire135 People in the mid-18th century still remembered the bloody mayhem and slaughter of the wars of religion the previous century. Nobody wanted a return to that.
This is the original ‘he’s got hacks!’
PARA LOS QUE NO ENTIENDEN INGLÉS:
-Alto matufia me saliste, tuerto del orto. Ahora sabés qué?... No te pago un sorete!
-Dame la guita, papá! ... No te zarpés conmigo que te pico todo, gatooo!
-Chau, gil. Arrancá!
Oh ! Your so funny, dumb ass !
Song?
It's the aria "Saper Bramate" from "Il Barbiere Di Siviglia" by the great Giovanni Paisiello.
the prince`s butler spoke German as a non native speaker
he is a jew, he spoke with a jewish dialect.
He was also a gigachad
He looks so much like James Acaster that it's mildly distracting.
Barry doesn't sword fight this prince, right?
No, King Frederick would not have allowed that contest to take place.
No he's too well connected !
Take a wild guess ? Of course not.
Yes
I love how people use to argue back in the day.
It’s so beautiful and aesthetically enriching.
This days all we do is yell at each other like brutish animals and we are the ones who are few centuries “ahead” of this people and yet we act like uninvolved apes.
when making observation about the ways of XVIIIth century from this film, one must remember that they concern the top 1% of the society of the time. (which by the way still exists). The rest was in fact much more violent than today's.
People were so Polite back in the 1700s.
@@thirael The nobility had a strict code of conduct dictating what fork you used for each course of a meal. The Prince is being polite here, of course, to the extent befitting a man of his station above the lowly Chevalier, but he is also essentially saying "I'm not paying you. You're free to try your luck with me in a duel, but I'll kill you."
It's called Tübingen, not "Turbingen".
No sé que hago viviendo en el siglo XXI.
Shouldn't the Chevalier and the Prince be speaking in German?
German or French would be the likely choices. French was the de facto lingua franca of European courts from Lisbon to Petersburg and the language of diplomacy. It's unlikely they would be using English, though it's very possible someone like Tubingen would speak it and humor the Chevalier's preference. It was common for the upper nobility to have a grasp of 5+ languages. Bismarck famously spoke German, French, English, Polish, Hungarian, Italian, and Danish to one degree or another, in addition to his classical education.
@@IPlayWithFire135 I thought the Chevalier, like Redmond, was pretending he didn't speak English to disguise his Irish roots.
@@Fuliginosusin the first part of this scene Redmond offered "Wein oder Punch, Eure Gnaden" so we can imagine that the whole scene is in German :)
@@pavelputeev5207 Why not keep speaking in German and give us subtitles?
@@Fuliginosus the scene with Lord Ludd is similar; in French for charachters and in English for viewers
The prince looks like Thanos with makeup and a wig.
intimate connections aka sex buddy
You are a moron !
it's Tübingen, not Turbingen.
The Chevalier was a cheat .
I am old enough to remember when this film came out. It got such terrible reviews. 😄
With so much lying, cheating and posturing, no wonder there were so many duels.
Disposal
Tübingen not Turbingen
Life lession kids: *Sometimes* it really pays off to sleep with the boss...😆 Its no necessarily a bad thing; connections is what opens doors for you in life and the prince just did what he, considering his orientation, would have done anyway. People just want you to think its wrong, if they can't do it themselves, because its considering as "cheating" in the game of society by NOT having to pay for you successes with hard struggles.Think about it...
Hey! Dont cheat prince of Turbingen!