Finally they added another battery system. Hopefully this new Remote Meter Kit will speed up the addition of other battery systems, although it's annoying to have to add another box on the wall. Really would have been nice if they could have integrated this into the Panel from the beginning.
Great content Joe. Met Mark at Intersolar in February. As a distributor, happy to say I stock the triple threat you mentioned of REC, Enphase and SPAN as well as FranklinWH.
Span took long enough to come out with their solution have since found a better way with Home Assistant (HA) to connect the enphase smart switch I/O ports and use Home Assistant to manage my loads. As soon as Home Assistant knows the grid is down it can take action to turn off my ecobee air conditioning, turn on off my Tesla charger, my hot water heater has a simple switch controlled by HA, same thing with my dryer all for under $500 and I can modularly add additional components. Span is great for turnkey but for existing homes and for anyone with a little bit of knowledge you can save thousands
I agree. I think that a smart home solution makes much more sense and has vastly more flexibility and options than the old-fashioned brute force approach that Span takes to turn circuits off and on.
"Early April date, we hit our date..." I placed my order for a SPAN panel and Enphase microinverter and battery system in November 2021. I was told that the SPAN-Enphase integration beta would be Q1 2022 with release in Q2 2022. This was directly from SPAN to my installer. They are a year late and Joe was polite enough to not call him on it. I canceled the SPAN part of my order and regrettably installed an old-fashioned critical loads panel.
Sorry to hear about the long wait. We are on the bleeding edge of these new technologies so it's probably best that you didn't get a beta version that was full of bugs/issues. This technology is finally starting to come into maturity.
I have older Enphase microinverters (pre-IQs), but I plan to change out to IQ8s later. Looks like I'm NOT going to use their integrated solution. I want the Sunlight Backup option with Enphase and I don't mind monitoring power use on a separate app on my Span. I have a Span to avoid needing a critical load panel. I don't want Enphase to have its own critical load panel. If that's the price of having Sunlight Backup, I may need to reconsider that aspect.
The Remote Meter Kit seems to measure things that the Enphase components already know (solar production, state of battery, state of grid). Does this imply that Span were not able to persuade Enphase to give them an IP-based API to obtain this info, and this the need to install and wire this extra Remote Meter Kit component?
I heard there were early issues integrating existing/legacy Enphase roof micro inverters (IQ7+) with the IQ8 batteries plus SPAN. Was that real and/or resolved? If I have a Span and an existing IQ7+ system, can any Enphase qualified installer do that? Excited for it. Saving up money now. Excited for more batteries coming!
Span seems like a reasonably well engineered product but with horrific product support. Can’t seem to get responses from them. Couple questions you may be able to answer: Is bus aluminium or copper? Is Span compatible w/Square D QO PON breakers? Can Span system be operated & managed w/multiple sub panels?
@@SolarSurge Wouldn’t it still work automatically? If in the day time you are producing more energy than being use, that energy go to charging the batteries.
Finally they added another battery system. Hopefully this new Remote Meter Kit will speed up the addition of other battery systems, although it's annoying to have to add another box on the wall. Really would have been nice if they could have integrated this into the Panel from the beginning.
Great content Joe. Met Mark at Intersolar in February. As a distributor, happy to say I stock the triple threat you mentioned of REC, Enphase and SPAN as well as FranklinWH.
They will sell a lot more of these when they make it compatible with EG4 inverters, without a doubt...
REC/Enphase/Tesla 3/ Span is what I'm wanting
Nice combo! More will be coming on Tesla Powerwall 3 very soon...
Can these work with Sonnen+Core? I have an enphase iq7+ and Qcell PVs…
Span took long enough to come out with their solution have since found a better way with Home Assistant (HA) to connect the enphase smart switch I/O ports and use Home Assistant to manage my loads. As soon as Home Assistant knows the grid is down it can take action to
turn off my ecobee air conditioning, turn on off my Tesla charger, my hot water heater has a simple switch controlled by HA, same thing with my dryer all for under $500 and I can modularly add additional components. Span is great for turnkey but for existing homes and for anyone with a little bit of knowledge you can save thousands
I agree. I think that a smart home solution makes much more sense and has vastly more flexibility and options than the old-fashioned brute force approach that Span takes to turn circuits off and on.
"Early April date, we hit our date..." I placed my order for a SPAN panel and Enphase microinverter and battery system in November 2021. I was told that the SPAN-Enphase integration beta would be Q1 2022 with release in Q2 2022. This was directly from SPAN to my installer. They are a year late and Joe was polite enough to not call him on it. I canceled the SPAN part of my order and regrettably installed an old-fashioned critical loads panel.
Sorry to hear about the long wait. We are on the bleeding edge of these new technologies so it's probably best that you didn't get a beta version that was full of bugs/issues. This technology is finally starting to come into maturity.
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I have older Enphase microinverters (pre-IQs), but I plan to change out to IQ8s later. Looks like I'm NOT going to use their integrated solution. I want the Sunlight Backup option with Enphase and I don't mind monitoring power use on a separate app on my Span. I have a Span to avoid needing a critical load panel. I don't want Enphase to have its own critical load panel. If that's the price of having Sunlight Backup, I may need to reconsider that aspect.
The Remote Meter Kit seems to measure things that the Enphase components already know (solar production, state of battery, state of grid). Does this imply that Span were not able to persuade Enphase to give them an IP-based API to obtain this info, and this the need to install and wire this extra Remote Meter Kit component?
I heard there were early issues integrating existing/legacy Enphase roof micro inverters (IQ7+) with the IQ8 batteries plus SPAN. Was that real and/or resolved? If I have a Span and an existing IQ7+ system, can any Enphase qualified installer do that?
Excited for it. Saving up money now. Excited for more batteries coming!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Enphase buys Span if they offer some value that can be scaled.
Span seems like a reasonably well engineered product but with horrific product support. Can’t seem to get responses from them. Couple questions you may be able to answer:
Is bus aluminium or copper?
Is Span compatible w/Square D QO PON breakers?
Can Span system be operated & managed w/multiple sub panels?
Lucid has the longest range, and best bi directional capabilities. 516mi range, and 193kwh available at a full charge
When is span coming to Canada
It almost seems to me that this span panel can be compared to the Franklin agate panel?
Does this mean no need for Enphase load controllers for sun only backups if used with Span?
I believe Enphase Sunlight Backup still requires Enphase's proprietary load controller.
@@SolarSurge that’s a shame - would be great if it could interface with Span to use their API instead for turning things on and off as needed.
@@SolarSurge Wouldn’t it still work automatically? If in the day time you are producing more energy than being use, that energy go to charging the batteries.
I cant buy it until it supports a DIY battery setup. I was considering Bluesun 2x 30kwh, but since SPAN doesn't support it, No SPAN.