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  • @i.m.evilhomer5084
    @i.m.evilhomer5084 Месяц назад +582

    I find it funny that Shin Megami Tensei is basically what the angry ultra religious types in the 90s claimed Pokemon was. The series also did the "capturing mons" thing years before Pokemon. Before anyone says, "Pokemon ripped it off," it's more likely they were both inspired by Ultraman's capsule monsters.

    • @danialao2356
      @danialao2356 Месяц назад +13

      Or just the monster hunter stuff

    • @SeelkadoomandJokic00
      @SeelkadoomandJokic00 Месяц назад +77

      Megami Tenseis first game came out in 1987 & basically started the monster collecting genre.

    • @mnishikado1806
      @mnishikado1806 Месяц назад +26

      Um actually, the concept of MegamiTensei's demon summoning program came from computer viruses.

    • @Painocus
      @Painocus Месяц назад +24

      How does Ultraman's capsule kaiju have anything to do with SMT? SMT demons are not stored in capsules and the capsule kaiju aren't trapped/convinced to join you (as far as I remember). MegaTen's mechanics are most likely inspired by Wizardry IV if anything (although even that isn't definitive), and all of the games' mechanics are ultimately derived from the original Dungeons & Dragon's monster taming mechanics (if a monster's HP got low enough you could try talking it into joining you or use a spell to make it, in one early D&D/Blackmoor-variant, "Rules for the Game of Dungeon", you even threw a ball at the monster to do it, because in that version all spells were stored as "light balls" you threw). Also Gachapon capsules with monster toys in them were already a thing when Ultraseven aired, and those inspires both Ultraseven and Pokemon. (Also note that Pokeballs are round and divided in two like a Gachapon capsule, not like the pill-shaped capsules in Ultraman.)

    • @jamesalexander5559
      @jamesalexander5559 Месяц назад +11

      Pokémon got the "capturing monsters and battling with them" thing from beetle fighting and Dragon Quest 5. Megaten could potentially be an inspiration too but it's never been mentioned to my knowledge.

  • @arthurwatson2555
    @arthurwatson2555 Месяц назад +371

    Persona 3 is where they shoot themselves
    Persona 5 is where they shoot Others

    • @drooprtroopr6969
      @drooprtroopr6969 Месяц назад +39

      Same thing in Persona 1. Though there those guns are actually real.

    • @astralguardian5930
      @astralguardian5930 Месяц назад +12

      And Persona 4 just has you crushing Tarot cards

    • @HazeEmry
      @HazeEmry Месяц назад +3

      Persona 4 has a fighting game

    • @rainbowprism6242
      @rainbowprism6242 Месяц назад +15

      ​@@drooprtroopr6969persona 1 had bigger stakes for characters. They got School Shooter situation but instead the boy sent school to Demon Realm.

    • @frostlover
      @frostlover Месяц назад +3

      ​​@@rainbowprism6242That's the plot of smt if not persona 1

  • @jonathangoodwin5609
    @jonathangoodwin5609 Месяц назад +159

    Fun fact, Shin Megami Tensei is practically the grandfather to Pokemon in that its basically the origin of the monster catching genre.

    • @MidBoss666
      @MidBoss666 Месяц назад +21

      Technically Megami Tensei, Shin was the third game, when it came to Super Famicom.
      But the rest is true, it was basically the first monster tamer game, almost a decade before the furst Pokemon.

    • @heyyodude8637
      @heyyodude8637 Месяц назад +1

      Actually, the MSX Cosmic Solider, based on what I heard, is actually the first game to feature monster catching mechanic, months before the first Megami Tensei game was ever released. It’s a pretty obscure game which I don’t blame people for not knowing it. I think having demons as allies is much more interesting than having just robots.

    • @MidBoss666
      @MidBoss666 Месяц назад +9

      @@heyyodude8637 not quite, while the recruitable enemies in Cosmic Soldier aren't human, they're not treated like catchable familiars either, it's more like Suikoden or Fire Emblem.

    • @PixeIated
      @PixeIated 20 дней назад

      I do like smt more than persona, but in terms of gameplay i enjoy pokemon more, it's just ooga booga overlevelled starter go brrrr

    • @isaiahbroussard6127
      @isaiahbroussard6127 18 дней назад

      When I describe it to people I call it "pokemon's punk rock older cousin"

  • @LAG00N
    @LAG00N Месяц назад +179

    NOOOO NOT THE CUMSTAIN SCORES

    • @ricardorunos9782
      @ricardorunos9782 Месяц назад

      Perfect since SMT’s dickhead Mara is in the video

  • @jonmcknight18
    @jonmcknight18 Месяц назад +185

    fun fact: bicorns they are the mirror of the Unicorn where only impure maidens can ride them

    • @MitchFromFBS
      @MitchFromFBS Месяц назад +55

      Something something Albedo Overlord

    • @eddmario
      @eddmario Месяц назад +38

      @@MitchFromFBS Kind of fitting a reference, since Albedo's English VA is also Sae in P5

    • @blackcladwarrior583
      @blackcladwarrior583 Месяц назад +2

      Oh my god that’s so cool

    • @OsnosisBones
      @OsnosisBones 18 дней назад +1

      I actually don't find much on the Bicorn that depicts them as such outside of Overlord. Most information actually focuses on the fact they are known for devouring virtuous and faithful husbands as an inversion of the Unicorn who would impale anyone who got near and wasnt a virtuous maiden. They also werent exclusively depicted as a two-horned horse (though that's more fitting since they're meant to be the adversary of the unicorn).
      Both kill on sight, one just kills or harms impure people and the other kills or harms pure people.

  • @proximaeon
    @proximaeon Месяц назад +77

    The reason why Mara's design is like that, is because his name is can be used as a joke for the male member in Japan.

    • @ghoulishgoober3122
      @ghoulishgoober3122 22 дня назад

      That makes me appreciate him even more. Not gonna lie I've always loved Mara's design. Despite the grossness and..penis, he does look kinda cool in his own Mara way. It helps that he's usually pretty damn strong as an enemy and summon. The tentacles and chariot are a nice touch that makes him more than just a giant penis that spews forth innuendos, it makes him clearly more alien and demonic. He is a Demon that resembles a penis, because of what you mentioned but also because Mara is a demon of temptation. It's perfect that he resembles the more carnal and direct symbol of desire, as it is said he sent his daughters to try and tempt the Buddha: a boner.

  • @RealCutieMutie
    @RealCutieMutie Месяц назад +53

    14:00 Fun fact about Bicorns, you can only ride on one if someone else rode on you first :3

  • @Nightxx9199
    @Nightxx9199 Месяц назад +113

    P5 makes you hate the first villain so much. That everyone else seems somehow less bad

    • @eddmario
      @eddmario Месяц назад +17

      It also doesn't help that D.C. Douglas, AKA Wesker in the Resident Evil series, was his voice actor...

    • @ADumbMf_
      @ADumbMf_ Месяц назад

      I will forever hate Kamoshitlord and Shitdo

    • @ToABrighterFuture
      @ToABrighterFuture Месяц назад +26

      The thing about each villain, is that they're wicked in their own way. The art museum, for instance, seems like a letdown, because its ruler is so much more subtle about his crimes.
      But when you go through there, look at the *hundreds* of victims, and remind yourself that any number of them could already be dead...and when you consider the gated-off wings early on, that you can only see so much of, which have more victims stretching past where you can see...and when you combine all that, and understand the sheer amount of human suffering this one man was unleashing, that's when it hits.

    • @rotonek2887
      @rotonek2887 27 дней назад +1

      And they didnt deliver any of these problems properly.

    • @danemr6808
      @danemr6808 21 день назад +5

      @@ToABrighterFuture Nothing else is so personal though. Abusing power and sexually assaulting students are far more common than having your art stolen by your mentor, so, horrifically, it's more relatable.

  • @drooprtroopr6969
    @drooprtroopr6969 Месяц назад +212

    If the GOAT Mara is not in this video I'll start rioting in the streets.
    Edit: LET'S GO THE GOAT IS HERE!

  • @RobeBLB
    @RobeBLB Месяц назад +101

    Crypt is cooler than tomb. It comes with the implications of something spooky I feel.

    • @MitchFromFBS
      @MitchFromFBS Месяц назад +1

      THANK YOU! Somebody finally said what everyone else was too afraid to say

    • @eddmario
      @eddmario Месяц назад +3

      Plus "tomb" is kind of vague, while "crypt" is very specific

    • @randomguy7951
      @randomguy7951 Месяц назад +3

      Tomb is the best option bc of Tomboys

    • @MitchFromFBS
      @MitchFromFBS Месяц назад

      @@randomguy7951 You might have converted me

    • @saifuusuri
      @saifuusuri Месяц назад

      Like a pumpkin-head pyromaniac perhaps?

  • @fluilow6829
    @fluilow6829 Месяц назад +71

    the slime mara is a reference to the SMT 3 Nocturne, there was a comedic sidequest about 2 guys trying to summon a demon but botched it due to haste and ended up summoning mara in a body of a slime.

    • @espurrseyes42
      @espurrseyes42 Месяц назад +13

      They roused him too early, so he couldn't COME to them at full strength.

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 Месяц назад +6

      ...wait, that one Beevis and Butthead comic was based on a canon sidequest?
      Amazing.

    • @Chaosfly10
      @Chaosfly10 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@webbowser8834what comic may I ask?

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 Месяц назад

      @@Chaosfly10 I don't remember the name. Just look up "Beevis and Butthead Mara" and it'll prolly show up.

  • @robertoporrata3911
    @robertoporrata3911 Месяц назад +46

    Missed opportunity to discuss Mara's moveset, also fun fact, Mara is weak to ice because cold.

    • @OOFUS4103
      @OOFUS4103 Месяц назад +1

      Which makes him shrivel up 😳

    • @AlasKenn1
      @AlasKenn1 Месяц назад +4

      A common skill they have between games is also Hell Thrust.

    • @alexisbaz8746
      @alexisbaz8746 13 дней назад

      ​@@AlasKenn1WHEEEEEEEZEEEE AJAJAJAKAKJAJAJAKKAKAJ!!, XD

  • @eddmario
    @eddmario Месяц назад +52

    Alright, who else immidietly clicked when they saw Mara in the thumbnail?

  • @relicking9207
    @relicking9207 Месяц назад +28

    I would like to point out Incubus and Succubus have a Screw and Nut respectively hanging off their ankles. Had something else I wanted to say, but forgot

  • @BlaineKodos
    @BlaineKodos Месяц назад +42

    I swear to god if that ending was a bit I'm gonna be pissed. It's the funniest accidental comedy I've seen in a while, if someone crafted it I will lose faith in the universe placing nuggets of gold around existence for the sole purpose of breaking people.

    • @MitchFromFBS
      @MitchFromFBS Месяц назад +26

      Nope, pretty much everything we do is all unscripted. None of us had any idea what he was saying until the video went up lol

  • @RealCutieMutie
    @RealCutieMutie Месяц назад +95

    I'm a simple girl. I see Mara, I click :3
    P.S.: Did you know that Mara has the strongest PIERCING attack of the game and a skill named "Firm Stance"?

    • @MitchFromFBS
      @MitchFromFBS Месяц назад +9

      🤨

    • @leixalkvinay2729
      @leixalkvinay2729 Месяц назад +13

      Yeah, in SMT Mara also has "Riot Gun" on of the strongest gun skills

    • @DemonVermin
      @DemonVermin Месяц назад +15

      We then add the Tower Arcana and Brain Buster, Tetra Break (remove physical barriers) and Charge. They got ickier in SMT 5 with Slumbering Vortex, Toxic Spray and Enduring Soul.

    • @Chaosfly10
      @Chaosfly10 Месяц назад +3

      I personally like to transfer Touch n' go, Bad Beat, and Energy shower to my Mara

    • @OOFUS4103
      @OOFUS4103 Месяц назад

      @@leixalkvinay2729don’t forget “Hell Thrust”

  • @manwithakora8430
    @manwithakora8430 Месяц назад +73

    So, fun fact, pretty much all the personas are based on real world figures and myths. Which can lead to fun interpretations for the personas. Flauros, for example, probably looks like that so he can be differentiated from Ose, as both are described as leopard headed demons in the Ars Goetia.

    • @eddmario
      @eddmario Месяц назад +8

      Hell, one of the character specific ones in P3 is loosely based on Jesus

    • @thecursed_1lordofcats738
      @thecursed_1lordofcats738 Месяц назад +11

      ​@@eddmariodon't forget how the protagonist of SMT2 is literally the reincarnation of Jesus. And a character from Devil Survivor is the reincarnation of Abel from the story of Cain and Abel. Now that i think about it, most prominent figures in SMT and Persona are either reincarnations of or modern day manifestations of major entities from religion and mythology.

    • @lancearnedo7837
      @lancearnedo7837 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@eddmarioit's only loosely reassembles Jesus cuz it's the Judeo-Christian concept of the messiah not specifically jesus himself. Even non Judeo-Christian religion might have a messiah in one form or another so that's why persona's messiah is non-specific, because it's not based on a single religion

    • @OriginalGameteer
      @OriginalGameteer Месяц назад +3

      Is Black/King Frost based off real world stuff? Or is just because Jack is a good boi who deserves all the love

    • @johnwilliamson4748
      @johnwilliamson4748 Месяц назад +3

      Okay so I tried to comment this already but it’s not showing up so let me re type it. The character of Jack Frost came from a child’s nursery rhyme. His design in smt was so iconic he became the series mascot. Over time as the game went on multiple powered up variants of Jack Frost were created some off them like king/ black frost became reoccurring demons.

  • @SeelkadoomandJokic00
    @SeelkadoomandJokic00 Месяц назад +111

    FUN FACT: SMT actually invented the monster catching genre which one of the Dragon Quest games would incorporate which inspired Pokemon.

    • @Candjstudios2024
      @Candjstudios2024 Месяц назад +16

      Nope. Fighting Fiends was the first creature collector. It came out in 1982 for arcade, and was in development since 1879. It came out 13 years before Pokemon.

    • @SeelkadoomandJokic00
      @SeelkadoomandJokic00 Месяц назад +28

      ​@Candjstudios2024 I was more referring to it appearing on consoles since Megami Tensei was 1987 but I'm also having trouble finding the game you mentioned, send me a link cause I'm interested.

    • @afanofjustice
      @afanofjustice Месяц назад +11

      @@SeelkadoomandJokic00idk but is he talking about but game called “Hack” (1982-1985) had monster taming mechanic as a side attraction. Later “NetHack” (1987-2023) got released which expanded on the mechanics but Megami Tensei was the first to have monster taming as a main gameplay mechanic

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 Месяц назад +4

      The concept as a whole originated from Shikigami honestly

    • @eddmario
      @eddmario Месяц назад +5

      Also fun fact:
      SMT is actually a spinoff series itself.
      For those unaware, Megami Tensei was originally a book series, and the games are a spinoff.

  • @Flutterdark_
    @Flutterdark_ 20 дней назад +3

    for the royal players. torn king of desire got moved in royal to be the will seed boss rather then a random midboss
    but hgaving it guard a seed of lust is fitting

  • @Ylitalonkustaa
    @Ylitalonkustaa Месяц назад +26

    This is rather good way to do SMT Demon design quiz. Kyle came at the end and chose rightly and thus he will have his spot in Heaven secured.

  • @knightofblackfyre7950
    @knightofblackfyre7950 Месяц назад +19

    Dirty two horned beast makes sense if you can remember that Unicorns are suppose to represent purity.

  • @darkturnwabler
    @darkturnwabler Месяц назад +80

    You know you have to show them 2 monsters and then ask what they fuse to make.

    • @neffariouspanda
      @neffariouspanda Месяц назад +5

      Yeah, but that can be different every game.

    • @kain6996
      @kain6996 Месяц назад +12

      @@neffariouspandait can also be different in the same game depending on level

    • @neffariouspanda
      @neffariouspanda Месяц назад

      @@kain6996 yup, that too

    • @Kerubu
      @Kerubu Месяц назад +4

      ​@@neffariouspanda if they just did persona 5 it'd work. Just say "according to the fusion calculator, what do these make?"

    • @kain6996
      @kain6996 Месяц назад +3

      @@Kerubu lol busting out the fusion calculated give them 2 batches of the same personas but with different levels and show them the different results there’s gotta be some great changes

  • @sharplosion1
    @sharplosion1 Месяц назад +16

    Shin Megami Tensei is older than Pokemon, coming out in 1992. It's even older originator Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei came out in 1987. Both of these had the core concept of adding creatures to your party, and are basically to the Monster Collection genre what Dragon Quest is to JRPGs as a whole. Tons of interesting things to discuss with it in how it uses mythology for both it's designs and it's stories.
    While the entire debate of SMT vs Persona is unfortunate in how the franchise as a whole is viewed and discussed, using the shadow names was a good way to structure a quiz, even if Persona as a whole is considerably less of a Monster Collector than SMT proper. Not sure how else you'd do it given the very blunt mythological inspirations for the entire franchise. Maybe read the in-game description and have the players pick which demon it's describing?
    That said, maybe you guys could do another SMT quiz given SMT V: Vegeance is coming out this month. Even if I doubt any of you will play it.

  • @thedizzytuna
    @thedizzytuna Месяц назад +18

    You are actually right a lot of these designs are basically the same as they were originally which for reference predates pokemon

  • @xandusviii9629
    @xandusviii9629 Месяц назад +16

    We need an out of context comp, because that would be absolutely hilarious

  • @kamenriderfourze2358
    @kamenriderfourze2358 Месяц назад +24

    I would love to see a follow up video based around the lore of personas.

    • @conspiracypanda1200
      @conspiracypanda1200 Месяц назад +6

      That would just be real life lore (myths/religions) except for the one dude who just manifests his dead butler on a jet-powered flying skateboard.

    • @Ranom1572
      @Ranom1572 Месяц назад

      Maybe they could show lore and design and they have to guess the name from those

  • @nahnah390
    @nahnah390 Месяц назад +4

    Honestly I'd love to see pokemon fans seeing just random demons from the SMT series in general, no quiz needed. It's great to have that contrast.

  • @Starpion88
    @Starpion88 Месяц назад +11

    Oh, I love this idea! I’d love to see another one!

  • @BramLastname
    @BramLastname 18 дней назад +2

    That ending was so funny,
    Just the perfect storm.

  • @McBehrer
    @McBehrer Месяц назад +7

    6:30
    "spf 100 isn't for him"
    lmao, didn't expect a Blond Boyz reference in the Year of Our Lord 2024

    • @stylez_71
      @stylez_71 Месяц назад +3

      Bleached hair, fair skin makes the ladies swoon👍🏼

  • @feliperuchel
    @feliperuchel Месяц назад +13

    These are like Digimon if they had YuGiOh names

    • @vivil2533
      @vivil2533 Месяц назад +2

      Well Digimon clearly takes inspiration from SMT.
      SMT came first, and although Digimon was inspired by tamagochi, the RPG Digimon games are basically just Shin Megami tensei.
      That's one of the main thing that annoys me about people who say Digimon is a rip off Pokémon. There is no Pokémon DNA in Digimon, it all tomagachi and shin megami tensei.

  • @DR_REDACTED
    @DR_REDACTED Месяц назад +21

    PLEASE Say this is going to be a series cuz if it is i just found my new favorite series on all of youtube. Also please let there be one on the pary's personas as well🙏

  • @Equ3strianGam3r
    @Equ3strianGam3r Месяц назад +9

    it's always a good time when I when I see a new upload from these guys.

  • @U.F.O
    @U.F.O Месяц назад +4

    Fun fact: in persona 3 portable, equipping Mara on the female mc with the male velvet room attendant (Theodore) will have him comment on how "unladylike" it is and ask you to use a different persona.

  • @Zach174.
    @Zach174. Месяц назад +8

    Do a lore version.
    Or tell them the lore if you do this again.
    28:52 You also fight this in smt 3 after some demons rush a Mara summoning ritual

  • @d.chriss
    @d.chriss 28 дней назад +3

    2:20 fun fact: The name "Pyro Jack" comes from the older games, where there was a limit to how long the names could be.

    • @ultlifeform
      @ultlifeform 20 дней назад +3

      Yeah, "Jack o' Lantern" was always intended to be the name, but it exceeded the character limit in older English games, so they shortened it to Pyro Jack.

  • @animemonsterx
    @animemonsterx Месяц назад +6

    Imagine Not having Jack Frost the mascot in there, also, Mara is unfortunately a good persona to use

  • @franknova987
    @franknova987 Месяц назад +9

    This is gonna be interesting
    Also, my favorite demons are Cleopatra, Dagda (he is voiced by the Smash Announcer) and Odin (smt4a)

    • @berserkerciaran
      @berserkerciaran Месяц назад +1

      Are Cleopatra and Dagda new to SMTV?

    • @franknova987
      @franknova987 Месяц назад +4

      @@berserkerciaran their both from smt4 Apocalypse but are put as dlc in 5V

    • @MitchFromFBS
      @MitchFromFBS Месяц назад +3

      The fact that Joker is also voiced by the Smash Announcer makes this so much better

    • @OOFUS4103
      @OOFUS4103 Месяц назад +2

      Cleopatra frolic 🥵

  • @TheCurry_
    @TheCurry_ Месяц назад +7

    I hope we are enjoying, persona name guessing: elimination mode

  • @allovertheworld5048
    @allovertheworld5048 Месяц назад +7

    I'm surprised they didn't mention the fact that the BIG and powerful mara is actually female

  • @HazeEmry
    @HazeEmry Месяц назад +8

    RIP Kyle Sandwiches, 2023 - 2024
    Edit: nvm HE LIVES YET AGAIN. He probably arrived in digi hell and discovered he couldn't handle LadyDevimon and came crawling back.

    • @stylez_71
      @stylez_71 Месяц назад +4

      What happened in Digihell is for me and LadyDevimon to know and absolutely no one else👀

    • @HazeEmry
      @HazeEmry Месяц назад +4

      @@stylez_71 understandable, have a nice day

    • @pat1r1ck
      @pat1r1ck Месяц назад +1

      ​@@stylez_71that video was wild

  • @orangejuice8279
    @orangejuice8279 19 дней назад +2

    The reason Jack-o-Lantern is called Pyro Jack in the older games is because the original name exceeded SMT3’s character limit, the name is supposed to be a reference to the story of the man that tricked the devil, so I prefer the current one cause I like the reference to folklore

  • @macroscopics
    @macroscopics Месяц назад +8

    And this is why Kyle should never host one of these, just the out of the blue win and out of pocket stuff he says makes him the best contestant possible

    • @stylez_71
      @stylez_71 Месяц назад

      Kyle here, I love you too random citizen🫡

  • @Flutterdark_
    @Flutterdark_ 20 дней назад +2

    28:48 so in smt 3 nocturne you can fight this thing as a boss. the game there calls it mara, and it looks that way cause 2 npc's asked the demon that was summoning mara to rush the ritual
    so it LITERALLY didnt have enough time in the oven

  • @jacobcoates7987
    @jacobcoates7987 Месяц назад +3

    The fakeout death at the end was wild

  • @KEVINF0X
    @KEVINF0X Месяц назад +7

    You guys are so creative and funny. I hope your channel blows up soon :3

  • @slothfulquagsire199
    @slothfulquagsire199 23 дня назад +2

    Fun Fact with Mara... In P3 it speciallised in Pierce Attacks and is weak to Ice Attacks.

  • @888pokemaster1
    @888pokemaster1 Месяц назад +4

    I DEMAND THE FULL SPORKS RANT

  • @McBehrer
    @McBehrer Месяц назад +3

    30:27
    also Yoshitsune has the potential to be the absolute most powerful Persona in the game if you build it right, with it being Immune, Reflecting, or Absorbing all but like 3 of the 10 normal damage types, being Resistant to 2 of the others, and Neutral to the only remaining one, AND having Hassou Tobi, a massive multi-hit AoE attack that melts basically everything.

  • @KenBladehart
    @KenBladehart Месяц назад +4

    Game show idea: guess which the demon/shadow negotiation is real

  • @redcoma100
    @redcoma100 Месяц назад +3

    I saw the thumbnail and I never clicked on a video so fast in my life. Great video. Hope you guys do more persona/smt videos. Like guessing the names of the main character persona's.

  • @lefthandedscout9923
    @lefthandedscout9923 Месяц назад +4

    15:31 Go look up Alciel's design and that is exactly what you're describing

  • @Dusxio
    @Dusxio Месяц назад +4

    The Sporks gave Kyle the win XD

  • @captainzuper2506
    @captainzuper2506 Месяц назад +2

    love how you jump off of each other's jokes, so hilarious! xD
    also you need to do some quote compilations for shorts or something

  • @rpgrage7711
    @rpgrage7711 Месяц назад +5

    YES SMT/PERSONA DEMONS this is going to be incredible i love all the games persona 1 through 5 and smt 3 and 5 are all incredibe games

  • @AnaatthiGozo
    @AnaatthiGozo Месяц назад +1

    I would've loved to see their reaction to Angel immediately after Succubus

  • @chriskoloski32
    @chriskoloski32 Месяц назад +1

    I will forever thank persona 5 for getting me into those series. So 5 will always be my favorite

  • @Hatsune_mikuxX
    @Hatsune_mikuxX Месяц назад +3

    Yes continue this persona / shin megami tensei series love the persona series

  • @christopherfu2169
    @christopherfu2169 Месяц назад +17

    Metatron and Yoshitusne are what is called ultimate personas. Each Persona is associated with one of the 22 major arcana. These arcana also corespondent with various characters, either teamates or npcs. By forging bonds with these characters, known as confidants, you get more power when fusing personas of the respective arcana and upon reaching rank 10 you get access to that arcanas ultimate persona, meaning only then you can create it. Metatron belongs to the Justice Arcana, while Yoshitsune is towers. Also, small funfact I always found hilarious, one of your confidants is a doctor and what is her arcana? Death.

    • @MitchFromFBS
      @MitchFromFBS Месяц назад +7

      I mean she can ruin my life so it checks out

    • @eddmario
      @eddmario Месяц назад +5

      Not so fun fact:
      Mara is the Tower arcana in P5, and that same confidant is a little boy...

    • @christopherfu2169
      @christopherfu2169 Месяц назад +2

      @@eddmario Thank you for the correction, I was sure Yoshitsune was the ultimate tower, but somehow I got that wrong. Even checked P3 and P4, because I thought I misremembered from those games, but nope.

    • @eddmario
      @eddmario Месяц назад +4

      @@christopherfu2169 You seem to have misunderstood me.
      I was just pointing out the coincidence that Mara and Shinya are both the Tower arcana.

  • @kain6996
    @kain6996 Месяц назад +4

    Not using Balfahgor really?

  • @Kibi27
    @Kibi27 15 дней назад +1

    Huge Persona/SMT fan, I have played 5 of them and will play more as they become available to me. Love seeing other people get exposed to the absurdity of some of these little goobers. Some of my personal favorites are Take-Minakata, he was a staple demon/persona for a large chunk of time in every single game I played, and Halphas because he is a funny little fancy bird, and Daisoujou, love his design and he is op in P5 and Nocturne.

  • @Dragonpit
    @Dragonpit Месяц назад +1

    You should see the designs for Artemis throughout Shin Megami Tensei. Her initial two designs are VERY out there, because they decided to emphasize the fact that she is the Greek goddess of Fertility by making a good portion of her design by comprised of female breasts. I am NOT joking. They definitely tone it down with her later two designs, but holy cow! Those early designs...!

  • @HamazuraGOD
    @HamazuraGOD Месяц назад +1

    6:29
    No way, not the Blonde Boyz reference 😭

  • @Nightxx9199
    @Nightxx9199 Месяц назад +11

    I apologize in advance for being one of the ones who asked, as I know this is going to probably cause y'all some level of damage lol

    • @MitchFromFBS
      @MitchFromFBS Месяц назад +7

      So it's YOUR fault (Thank you for your suggestion)

    • @Nightxx9199
      @Nightxx9199 Месяц назад +1

      @@MitchFromFBS No problem. Glad y'all had fun lol

  • @PlutoDarknight
    @PlutoDarknight Месяц назад +2

    Turns out you can't put uncensored Mara into the video after all

  • @RougeMephilesClone
    @RougeMephilesClone Месяц назад +1

    Couldn't have written a better ending. Glad I stumbled across this, it was funny throughout.
    I would've guessed Yoshi, since bonus boss Margaret has them in P4 and P4U. Metatron makes sense though, he's one of the top Law dudes when Messiah isn't around. Surprised they're only one fusion sum apart!

  • @42Caio
    @42Caio Месяц назад

    I hope you guys do more Shin Megami Tensei/Persona ones in the future. Lots of good designs in the series.
    And with SMT 5 Vengeance releasing this week, it's a good time to surf on whatever interest that may generate lmao.

  • @xeroreverse7712
    @xeroreverse7712 Месяц назад +3

    Shin Megami Tensei, the granddaddy of all monster collecting rpgs. Well there was Nethack before it, if you want to be pedantic but SMT was definitely what established the genre. And then pokemon exploded in popularity worldwide and became the face of the genre. Effectively being the Oreo to SMT's Hydrox.
    While I'm a huge fan of pokemon, it annoys me to no end when other monster collecters are simply written off as ripoffs or as clones. Digimon got it bad but nothing will come close to the vitriol and hate that was thrust upon Yo Kai Watch in the states.

  • @sethbrooks7174
    @sethbrooks7174 Месяц назад +2

    Love the P5 style screen wipes 🤩
    Edit: 19:32 The designs for all the SMT monsters are drawn from various folklore and myths, and I think for that reason the designs only get 'modernized' in that they are made higher res, basically. Very few get big changes to design, one I will be a little surprised if I dont see it later in this video... because you have to. (edit2: 23:27 yep, it had to be here. When I played SMT3 last year, I learned mara was instead a giant slime that was shaped like... *ahem* just the tip. So Mara got a redesign that made it muuuuuuuch worse.)
    Edit3: oh craaaap totally forgot about the torn king bringing up the old mara mantle.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Месяц назад +1

    Nice to see y'all finally tackling this topic! Having played Dx2, there's some pretty neat species! I'm hoping to try some SMT proper (NOT Persona!) in the future!
    Thanks for uploading!

  • @Havok351
    @Havok351 Месяц назад +1

    the shadow at 28:16 is actually a weakened version of Mara its been used as a mini boss in a couple of games and Beelzebub does appear in SMT/Persona but i wonte say anything about him because i hope to see a reaction to him in a future video

  • @infernaldisdain8051
    @infernaldisdain8051 Месяц назад +3

    Y’know, I didn’t like Kyle at all when I first found this channel. Now he’s my favorite.I don’t know if he’s changed or if I have, but his energy keeps me rooting for him even when I want someone else to win.

    • @stylez_71
      @stylez_71 Месяц назад +2

      Kyle here, I appreciate that haha! Thanks so much for watching and I hope you enjoy our future videos! WE KEEP WINNING BABY LETS GOOOO!!!!

    • @pat1r1ck
      @pat1r1ck Месяц назад +1

      I like his suffering in Digimon. I can't hate him for that to be fair

    • @Chaosfly10
      @Chaosfly10 Месяц назад +2

      He's definitely gone from just clueless to a more inquiring clueless. And we love him for it

  • @the_zane_matrix4601
    @the_zane_matrix4601 Месяц назад +3

    I think yokai watch would make a good quiz. Not a large following but I enjoyed it.

  • @TrvisXXIII
    @TrvisXXIII 13 дней назад

    He made that explanation way more confusing than it needed to be when explaining personas as shadows vs “capturing them”
    I had the same puzzled look on my face as the man bun dude at the bottom right while he was explaining, and I sunk 140 hours in Royal

  • @McBehrer
    @McBehrer Месяц назад +4

    5:27
    The thing is, Jack-o-lantern only appears in the FIRST Palace, which is definitely not crypt themed.
    Also, it's generally considered Spoilers and Bad Manners to name the owners of any of the palaces after Kaneshiro, unless you're in a forum where the general audience has already played the game, or if the spoilers are clearly marked. After that, they should just be referred to as Palace 4, 5, etc.

  • @MyGawd-
    @MyGawd- 29 дней назад +2

    Jack-o'-Lantern only sounds worse than Pyro Jack when you don't have the context of the "Jack" enemy archetypes, I think it's a way better name personally but it sounds lame if you didn't know beforehand

  • @pat1r1ck
    @pat1r1ck Месяц назад +1

    When i saw the thumbnail, i knew i had to watch it since the throbbing king of desire was in it

  • @GIRru11
    @GIRru11 8 дней назад

    My favorite thing about Mara is how everything he says is related to sex. Even his skills have a sex theme

  • @GuardianAngelEatos
    @GuardianAngelEatos Месяц назад +1

    Oh gosh! I've played Persona 5 and Royal and didn't even notice that about Mara! That's so disturbing!

  • @GaybrohamStinkton
    @GaybrohamStinkton Месяц назад +3

    Isnt Fursona known for its dating mechanics? This should be the next AI date em on, as the demons, not the player characters as thatd be weirt. Can confirm, did not come

  • @Omnicrom
    @Omnicrom 18 дней назад +1

    RIP Kyle.

  • @michellekeppler982
    @michellekeppler982 Месяц назад +1

    I didn't realize that the english translation for the names are so different

  • @jonathangoodwin5609
    @jonathangoodwin5609 Месяц назад +1

    Oh boy, this one is gonna be great.

  • @Buretsu
    @Buretsu Месяц назад +1

    6:27 It's a penile sheath on Incubus, not the actual thing.

  • @allovertheworld5048
    @allovertheworld5048 Месяц назад +1

    wow I didn't expect them to react to the virginsona/CHAD tensei demons by the way they could make reactions to the different designs of the demons like odin or satan

  • @JoshuaPAMployee
    @JoshuaPAMployee Месяц назад +1

    There's a slime in SMT called KING OF ALL SLIMES and it is just a slime on a buff body still looking like slime! Thats why it always looks cut off in games.
    This isn't true but what if it was!? 🤔

  • @malakkennedy6949
    @malakkennedy6949 24 дня назад +1

    No doubt Mara will be here. It just seems to be the perfect mental flashbang.
    Edit: yuuuuuup.

  • @Dusxio
    @Dusxio Месяц назад +1

    Honestly, I like the Bicorn. But it's a horse with goat horse. Still cool XD

  • @zoromaster1696
    @zoromaster1696 Месяц назад +2

    My boy yoshitune is on the list best persona

  • @Argonisgema
    @Argonisgema 27 дней назад +1

    show's succubus
    Thoughts
    mitch: yes
    me: XD

  • @blackpictureyt7611
    @blackpictureyt7611 Месяц назад +1

    As SMT fan who's Persona 5(and those game that's too old) is the only game i haven't played so i'm confused as hell

  • @meikisaragi1445
    @meikisaragi1445 Месяц назад +2

    Funny enough. Shin Megami Tensei came first before Pokemon. It just wasn't popular until Persona I guess.

  • @DemonVermin
    @DemonVermin Месяц назад +2

    MUAHAHAHAHAHA… welcome to the Cathedral of Shadows. I, your resident Demonologist, will assist you with your fusion needs. Ahem…
    Yeah, I am a huge fan of SMT and I love their take on mythological figures. Some of their designs actually reference obscure things about these gods and other legends that may not make sense at all until you actually do a deeper dive. I am excited to see how you guys react to the monster taming series that predates Pokemon… and tbh should have been the spark of the Satanic Panic in the US.
    The Persona series often revolves around a social sim starting from 3. 1 and 2 are strange. 1 is a dungeon crawler similar to Wizardry. 2 started to branch out and is a duology of games. It is highly regarded and the story is like a modern Persona game without the social sim. 3 is what started the modern era.
    The SMT series often revolves around an end of the world, apocalyptic scenario and has the Demon Summoning Program or something of that sort that lets you party up with Demons to take on the game. Often philosophical and morality choices affect an ending you can get. The first of these was actually just called Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei and was released in 1987. Again, this was a dungeon crawler similar to Wizardry.
    Heck, there is even the Devil Summoner series that plays more like a tactical RPG where you split your team into 4 teams of 3 with 1 human and 2 Demons where each Demon has their own skills and even a Racial skill.
    I am gonna enjoy this! Kekekekekek
    Pyro Jack/Jack’ O Lantern
    Ah one of the Jack Bros and a Demon obviously based on the legend of Stingy Jack and Jack O Lanterns that people make on Halloween. It could also be based on how will o’ wisps look like someone holding a lantern.
    Note: The name “Crypt Dwelling Pyromaniac” may be a mistranslation as the word they used in Japanese could also mean basement or cellar, which is where they are found in that game, referring to the dungeon and areas near it.
    This demon’s original design was literally a Pumpkin with arms and legs. This creature has one of the LONGEST histories of the SMT monsters going back to the original Megami Tensei. In Persona, it is often of the Magician Arcana and in SMT it is a Fairy Race, which fits since this race is based on fairies and neutral magical phenomenon. Will o’ Wisps are sometimes attributed to the mischief of Fairies. As you can see, they usually focus on fire spells.
    A fun fact about this little dood is that they had a spin off game released on the Virtual Boy console.
    Incubus
    Ohhhhh yeah, this thing is somewhat accurate to a real life Incubus legend. They prowl the nights to assault women and in some cases, it is believed that SAs and other crimes of that nature were the acts of these monsters… usually to hide and protect the criminal. Other things attributed to Incubus are sleep paralysis phenomena.
    This demon is also another original Demon from the very beginnings of the series. In Persona, it is of the Devil Arcana most commonly and in SMT it is of the Night Race, which references demonic entities that often come out at night. Fitting for a sleep paralysis demon. They focus on Charm and Sleep spells. In some games, they evolve into Succubus. A fun community thing is that some people will fuse an Incubus that knows moves such as Hell Thrust or Sword Dance in reference to their… ya know… “sword”. Still, they naturally know Dream Needle…
    Bicorn
    It originates from a satirical poem, Bycorne and Chychevache, describing two beasts. The Bycorne eats good husbands (and is fat because there are so many) and the Chychevanche eats good wives (and is starving cause there are so few). In this poem, they are described as panther/bovine hybrids with human faces. It is believed that the current depiction of a two horned horse is based on the Re’em, a creature from the bible that is noted to most likely be a description of an oryx. Most likely the comparison to the Unicorn is fiction writers making a connection and going with it. Now its kinda a popular depiction.
    Note: Nice names, you accidentally referenced the origin with that one.
    It is relatively newer than the previous two, originating from SMT 2. Persona 5 is its first appearance in the Persona series, where it is part of the Hermit Arcana. This demon is more common in the SMT series where it is a Wilder, or wild and violent beast. Yeah nothing much more to say about this guy. He is just kinda neat.
    Black Ooze
    Well, this thing is actually based on D&D. The creature there is called the Black Pudding and despite being a slime, in D&D, they are a dangerous acidic creature. You will find that many of these monsters have D&D based designs.
    Another oldy, this guy originates from the original SMT and often they are noted to be demons that failed to materialize correctly, leaving them as a sludgy pile of hate and death. Another creature that had its first appearance in Persona 5, these guys are part of the Moon Arcana. In SMT, they are of the Foul Race, which consists of strange creatures, empowered humans and urban legends. A neat quirk is that nearly all of them are weak to light.
    Succubus
    We’ve seen the Incubus, now for the Succubus. Again, another creature that is based on rumors and demons to explain away phenomena. This case, it is adultery and maybe even birth defects. They strike at night and drain men of their vitality. The Lilim, daughters of Lilith, are known Succubi.
    Joining the cast of the original, Succubus were around for the Megami Tensei games. Interestingly, in the Persona series it jumps around the Moon and the Devil Arcana. In SMT it is of the Night Race, which as described above is fitting for a monster that attacks men at night. In the original design, it was literally a naked woman with flowing red hair and that design shows up in its sprite for Megami Tensei 2. So yeah, that Succubus shown IS a redesign. As you might have figured, they are usually specialists of Charm spells and magic. Their levels often bounce around, but you can count on those two aspects.
    Note: My 2 cents. They made her generic because the aforementioned Lilim and Lilith are common demons too, so they made Succubus generic and focused on different designs for these two “evolved” forms.
    Mara
    MY LORD AND SAVIOR!!! THE DICK CHARIOT HIMSELF AND THE MEME OF THE SMT SERIES. This creature has an over foot long scale figure with positionable tentacles… that cost over 300 dollars. He is THAT popular. Mara is the Buddhist Demon who tempts and seduces people away from the path of enlightenment. He is the ultimate obstacle for those who wish to seek enlightenment. So of course he despised Buddah and when he attacked him, but when the Buddah touched the ground, the gods showed up and smote him. He is often known to use lust and violence to get his way.
    Mara originates from SMT and his original design is a dick with tentacles coming off the balls… yeah… In SMT 2 his boss fight includes his iconic deathmobile chariot, but ditches it when he is summoned to your side.
    In SMT 3: Nocturne, there is a version of Mara called Mara Slime that is a failed summoning of Mara (as noted with Black Ooze, slime monsters are normally summon failures), though Mara is so powerful, even his slime form is super strong. They reference this in the rapist’s dungeon by having the Torn King of Desire as a miniboss since normal Mara would POUND YOUR ASS at this level
    Fittingly… in the Persona games he is of the Tower Arcana. In the SMT games he is of the Tyrant Race, who consist of powerful evil beings from various pantheons, often their big bads. Mara’s movesets are always decently meme worthy. He is weak to ice in reference to blue balls and often uses the Charm status and powerful physical attacks. In the Persona games with weapon types, Mara often does Pierce damage or Gun Damage. They go further in Persona 5 and 5R where Mara also focuses on Charm and Psychic attacks which mesh together for bonus damage.
    I love this guy and making meme builds using him. But my favorite aspect isn’t even the demon itself. It is another demon that is connected to him. Girimekhala is a famous SMT demon known to the fanbase as the first demon to naturally reflect physical attacks and most noobs will just kill themselves on him first time. That is my favorite SMT demon and he is the one eyed elephant that Mara rides into battle… aka his chariot made flesh. With enough fusion, you can make one that is near invulnerable since he naturally has an immunity to physical and darkness, so is a great base to build upon. SMT 5 they introduced a true Taunt attack… I made an invincible wall that focuses on debuffing you.
    Kekekeke I am not gonna go into detail into the bonus guys… but yeah Yoshitsune is OP asf. 8 hits of basic attack level damage to the entire battlefield literally just shreds anything. Ofc, in Persona 5, you NEED to max the Magician Arcana to get him, which means you need to to basically be on the final day to unlock him.

    • @MitchFromFBS
      @MitchFromFBS Месяц назад +1

      There was no "Kekekeke" at the beginning, so I didn't buckle in and am now splattered against my wall (I will recover by next week, dw)

  • @nomnom2407
    @nomnom2407 Месяц назад +2

    Can you do Pulsemon's evolution line next?

  • @antaresblack6551
    @antaresblack6551 Месяц назад +3

    Now this is peak

  • @HExtraordinaire
    @HExtraordinaire Месяц назад +1

    Persona means person and ohana means nobody gets left behind
    Hakuna Matawan

  • @Bombetina_Again
    @Bombetina_Again Месяц назад +1

    YES! I've been waitin for this

  • @nahidahamed1742
    @nahidahamed1742 Месяц назад +3

    looking good sandwich

  • @KashKey-
    @KashKey- Месяц назад +2

    As good as this video is, I have one complaint: I wish it wasn't *just* the sex demons. I feel like it gives the wrong impression of Persona and Shin Megami Tensei as a franchise. Show off the demons like Amaterasu, Michael, etc.

  • @aboveaveragegaming5503
    @aboveaveragegaming5503 Месяц назад +1

    the virtual boy Exclusive game Jack bros had the jack bros pyro jack included dungeon crawling hence the name i suppose