Allow me to rant in my little soliloquy hapa. Lazima tuelewe audience ya Bien niakinanani. So most views zake ziko catered Kwao. So I understand his takes.
Those women in high positions most of the time are there due to Patriarchy in one way or the other. Men are supposed to lead and there is thin line between positive and negative masculinity. The topic shouldn't be discussed by generalization. Otherwise great podcast.
Patriarchy is not held by MOTHER NATURE. It’s not even a universal law . That’s why the man’s world as we know it it’s crumbling because of corruption and institutions run and established by men .
@mosca4206 Sisi wasee husema hakuna mungu, tunaenjoyi Charlene na kuongea juu ya pastor Mboro tunatafuta corporate? 😂😂😂. Umejishindia ticko ya kuenda Kaji Tombe
Bien sings for women, his views on Masculinity and Patriarchy will be forgiven. Mans is just protecting his bag but fact is, patriarchy can never die and men and women will never be equal. It doesn't matter how many women get elected or appointment to higher positions. Good conversation though.
Unless one is a white man or a wealthy man or a man in power, then they suffer from patriarchy (a social construct) just as much, as it's what ties men's worth to their wallet and has wealthy men abusing poor / powerless men at will and getting away with it, as the latter remain more obsessed with "never being seen as weak", forever chasing shadows, than actually facing their real tormentors: the men with the power who have them by their balls. Case and point, follow the P-Diddy case as it unfolds, see the sheer number of young males that were sexually abused for years, but could never speak up. Why? Could ol patriarchy. Patriarchy like tribalism (and how tugeges live in this illusion of being "better than" for having "their own is State House even their reality is they can't even make ends meet) is a tool for those with the actual power to hoodwink and toy around those with little-to-no social power. Illusions.
Patriarchy inaisha in air conditioned, heat controlled well ventilated jobs, brick laying , kokoto crushing na mkokoteni driving bado patriarchy iko strong buda. Taliban , Alshabab na the russians wakikuja itabidi toxic masculinity men wapambane. I highly doubt kuna feminist ata volunteer kuingia the trenches.
Tusisahao 50% of the world population ni china na wahindi but hizi western culture in our minds account for 100% of how we see life. Please make it make sense.
this is so cool, incitive and educative. as an artist, i really wanna stand my own ground and have my own solid-to-the-core fan base that will be there, show up to my shows. really working on artist development and hopefully come this one day, nitapiga shughuli na bien. such a blessed soul man. i look up to this mf. iko nini, so great you guys are doing a wonderful job. pia me najiona hapo in a few years. napenda show.
14:53 I look forward to more men coming to such realisations. We are stronger together but the world especially online has won making these divisions. You can be one supportive lady but because you are a go getter you are viewed as an enemy of men. I have seen it and it breaks me so much because I know I want to be a go getter but I also don't mind being a submissive woman to a good man or supportive for lack of a better word
Kitu poa ni Nameless kama O.G kushika youngin mkono, kama umeskia Bien amesema kwa moments noma akiroundia Nameless, O.G anamground. Kila kijana anahitaji O.G wa kumshika mkono - ubaya ni hawako wengi, infact mtaani ni ma dingo ndio hufanya mentorship ya vijana - wale wengine hawana time ya mavijana ...
I love how Bien approached the issue of marrying a career woman, safety first. My only disagreement is that we need to define masculinity (toxic or negative). At what point does a push for masculinity become toxic? General conversion does more harm. Otherwise great show.
@@IkoNini I agree. As we're sanitizing men, let the same happen to empowered women. As a matter of fact, what is an empowered woman if she can't differentiate her role as a wife and professional? But then again you'd expect to see less divorce cases amongst empowered women in Africa? Think about it, something is missing and the problem is not masculinity.
@@fishfish20 my humble opinion of why there’s cases of divorce with empowered women is that the men in their lives don’t know how to handle that, which is why it’s called toxic masculinity.
Ongelleni music na touring.HAKUNAkitu kama "toxic" masculinity...mambo ya masculinity na gender iko above ya paygrade....ama hao corporate b nyinyi ni chiwauwa zao😂
Buda Bien is by far my fav artist in Kenya ...I enjoyed the convo ...but hapo kwa Patriarchy lets agree to disagree. Keep up the good work Man .. I love ur music...
we are too far gone from reality, na notion za majuu about the pillars of family. At the end we are embracing cultures that don’t suit us. facts zinatushow hizi opinions haziwork. Check statistics za families.
Bien uko na good points,but hapo kwa career woman umepotea. Nani atawaoa? A good lady is submissive and gives a man respect. These so-called career women have diminished respect for their men. Would our forefathers advocate for these kind of unions?
Next cast leteni Amerix tuone convo ikiwa moto kaa ile the bench ya Miguna vs Passaris😂😂😂to this day it cracks me up best tv debate ever hands down😂😂😂😂
Bro hiyo si insale,unakumbuka ule Dem ulihost juzi ? She was just talking nonesens like in imature fellow,hata wewe mwenyewe ulikuwa unadisagree na yy in everything when you were discussing with her about eve and travour issue
The issue with Mwaf is the fact that he has overestimated his wisdom/intelligence. He preaches wokeness but went on to marry a uni girl while he was over 35😅😅😂
Sad state of affairs listening to their perceptive on masculinity and how he is pro LGBTQ (13:20). Glad there exist voices that is currently countering such views.
Its good to have conversations lakini kuita watu wanadisagree "incels" is such a cheap,surface level insult. Ni kushow this pod plus Bien hawajafanya any deep analysis of the issue. I wonder if they call angry women 'femcels' ama 'incels' ama ni insult ya maguys tu? Good discussion though
I disagree with Bien on this, ganji ni ya family wakati wewe mwanaume uko nayo, lakini babes akiwa na maweng ni zake, ile kiburi utajionea ni premium tears. Time will tell.
Gotta love a man that’s comfortable in his own skin and defines masculinity for himself and is self conscious.
Hapo kwa masculinity mumegonga nje kama kawa lakini good podcast on the rest of the topics
Yeah nmeboeka nikisikiza
Factss
A different opinion is allowed on Iko Nini 😁
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True
Buda Bien ni msee wa strength mbaya. Tushaichapa drinks nayeye hapa Manchester mbaya sana 😂😂😂😂.
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Allow me to rant in my little soliloquy hapa.
Lazima tuelewe audience ya Bien niakinanani. So most views zake ziko catered Kwao. So I understand his takes.
Plus his personal experience
Correct
Them dudes gave us Lazizi over a decade ago and I definately knew they are gonna make it big in the universe musically.. Iko nene
Mwaf tutafutie Amerix.Atleast yeye mtakua na different opinions on the same table.
Iko Nini is a nice podcasts. Thanks.
Partriachy is held by nature, it can't die. All other beliefs insinuating otherwise are a passing fad. Great conversation though, Iko Nini
Those women in high positions most of the time are there due to Patriarchy in one way or the other.
Men are supposed to lead and there is thin line between positive and negative masculinity. The topic shouldn't be discussed by generalization. Otherwise great podcast.
@@fishfish20 true dat
Patriarchy is not held by MOTHER NATURE. It’s not even a universal law . That’s why the man’s world as we know it it’s crumbling because of corruption and institutions run and established by men .
As always mwaf hugeneralize vitu and i think his intent kusifu feminsm ni ku atract corprates..boss they will never call you..😂 @@fishfish20
@mosca4206 Sisi wasee husema hakuna mungu, tunaenjoyi Charlene na kuongea juu ya pastor Mboro tunatafuta corporate? 😂😂😂. Umejishindia ticko ya kuenda Kaji Tombe
Naona bien alikuja na trouser ya Njugush 😂😂😂😂 … big fan
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Aluminium 😂😂😂
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Sufuria 😂
Bien sings for women, his views on Masculinity and Patriarchy will be forgiven. Mans is just protecting his bag but fact is, patriarchy can never die and men and women will never be equal. It doesn't matter how many women get elected or appointment to higher positions.
Good conversation though.
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True
truth
Incel detected
Unless one is a white man or a wealthy man or a man in power, then they suffer from patriarchy (a social construct) just as much, as it's what ties men's worth to their wallet and has wealthy men abusing poor / powerless men at will and getting away with it, as the latter remain more obsessed with "never being seen as weak", forever chasing shadows, than actually facing their real tormentors: the men with the power who have them by their balls.
Case and point, follow the P-Diddy case as it unfolds, see the sheer number of young males that were sexually abused for years, but could never speak up. Why? Could ol patriarchy.
Patriarchy like tribalism (and how tugeges live in this illusion of being "better than" for having "their own is State House even their reality is they can't even make ends meet) is a tool for those with the actual power to hoodwink and toy around those with little-to-no social power. Illusions.
Bien's way of looking at life is awesome. Napenda the convo. So much to learn from the episode.
sauti sol walikuwa upper hill. 2/3 ya wakadinali pia walikuwa upper hill. hio shule imebirth masuperstar
You just gatta love Bien, he is such a humble soul. Cnat wait to see him in Berlin❤
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That 20% income growth annually is so insightful...
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Kumbukeni hizi ni opinion tu, Women are good with money lakini wakiwa sole providers... wueh.... Mwanamke kukulisha.. very few.. utaifeel...
Your opinion too 😁
😂😂😂 hapa i agree,heri nikue naamkia mjei kama mtu wa mkono
Patriarchy inaisha in air conditioned, heat controlled well ventilated jobs, brick laying , kokoto crushing na mkokoteni driving bado patriarchy iko strong buda. Taliban , Alshabab na the russians wakikuja itabidi toxic masculinity men wapambane. I highly doubt kuna feminist ata volunteer kuingia the trenches.
@Iko nini Mlete BENJAMIN KABASEKE ule Quitarist wa Bien aime (sauti sol) kwa show ya iko NiNi
Another day another wonderful interview
100%
Tusisahao 50% of the world population ni china na wahindi but hizi western culture in our minds account for 100% of how we see life. Please make it make sense.
I think he’s talking about situations of educated and working couples
Hard fact.
It doesn't make sense because this claim is false...
Mwafrika skuizi amekua wuss Sana. He has to pander to the corporates. Good thing nobody is buying this woke nonsense. Even bien anapitwa nag wakati
Immediately after watching this I went straight to Kibe's channel to be pulled back to reality 😂😂
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Kusanitize😂
Muhimu sanaa
Manh...the vibes in this podcast are not it😂
I can listen to Bien the whole day. The guy is humble, knowledgeable and respectful
Keep giving us good music champ
Ile show ya Ares66 ilinice sana
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I think people should live as they please......mimi acha nikae na patriarchy yangu kama inanifurahisha
Bien has something that every artist should listen to
Sasa watu kama bien wanafaa kulecture kwa mens conference bana he is spiting facts
Iko nini almost at 100K! Maad🔥🔥what a journey!
Bien's perspective is top notch!
Uliza Bien Sauti Sol (kwa gym) leg day yao huwa lini.hahaha
And how many times a week haha
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Leteni kitu sewer juu kuna album anatoa na iko backup na wakadinali itakua best sana
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Big up mwaf for good guests now and again👏👏👏👏
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TOA kakitu
UnspokenLogicKe
Bien tufocus on ngoma joh😂😂imebidi nmeskiza at x2 speed apo kwa sector ya masculinity na patriarchy.
Manze😂
Very insightful interview 🎉IKO NINI next tunaomba NYASHINSKI tukiongeza kusubscribe 🔥🔥🔥
Mwaff kazi safi big up team mzima
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I never thought hawa majaa wa Sauti Sol watakalia bench considering their affiliation na Anyiko this is one for the books.
Arguably the best and the most talented Kenyan artist of all time goat mazy salute Bien
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this is so cool, incitive and educative. as an artist, i really wanna stand my own ground and have my own solid-to-the-core fan base that will be there, show up to my shows. really working on artist development and hopefully come this one day, nitapiga shughuli na bien. such a blessed soul man. i look up to this mf.
iko nini, so great you guys are doing a wonderful job. pia me najiona hapo in a few years. napenda show.
14:53 I look forward to more men coming to such realisations. We are stronger together but the world especially online has won making these divisions. You can be one supportive lady but because you are a go getter you are viewed as an enemy of men. I have seen it and it breaks me so much because I know I want to be a go getter but I also don't mind being a submissive woman to a good man or supportive for lack of a better word
Bien is not only talented but also woke and such a realist.
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Not woke but deep a sleep
sawa mjuaji@@biggrhymees88one
Kitu poa ni Nameless kama O.G kushika youngin mkono, kama umeskia Bien amesema kwa moments noma akiroundia Nameless, O.G anamground. Kila kijana anahitaji O.G wa kumshika mkono - ubaya ni hawako wengi, infact mtaani ni ma dingo ndio hufanya mentorship ya vijana - wale wengine hawana time ya mavijana ...
2 minutes in and the pod is already a banger
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Tulete kitu sewer next mwaf 💯🔥🙌🏿
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Tafadhali mehn
boss, thanks for speaking for me 🤝
Goated podcast...hii kitu hukua real mbaya 👌
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Bien is really pushing the feminist agenda...bt anyway iko nini ni iko nini..good conversation
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Bien on the couch this must be interesting..iko nini
Iko Nini!!
Alusa, why are you happy?
Iko nini i'd like to hear Uncle Fred obachi machoka as a guest here
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Lete uncle pliiz
The problem is that there aren't enough Biens in this world. 👏🏽 talk about a male role model.
Hio topic ya masculinity bro. Inje mbaya sana. I get the being "woke" and all but hapana buana..
I don’t think he’s woke, he’s just “super” successful and that comes with not taking life too seriously 😬😬
Waluhya na Kiswahili Sanifu you guy.
Juzi Bien alitumiwa kitita 😂
Bien is a force, a master in his craft.
Impressed by Biens intelligence..
The interview is great, I agree with Bien but then the man Bien is trying to hypothetically create is hated by women.
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Enock Sikolia alisema kitu ya maana sana,guys msiwai kimbia kuvuruta waadhiriwa kwa scene ya accident, hio part 4 ilikua dope sana.
Bien ukua artist mkali but ushoga mob sana
😂😂usenge
I read Things fall Apart. Africa's biggest cultural book. I have no recollection of women hunting... Subject to debate or simply, Big lie!
Bien is giving me free Game !!! As an artist (upcoming) I know a little more now 🎉
I love how Bien approached the issue of marrying a career woman, safety first.
My only disagreement is that we need to define masculinity (toxic or negative). At what point does a push for masculinity become toxic? General conversion does more harm.
Otherwise great show.
It becomes toxic when we start treating empowered women as enemies
@@IkoNini I agree. As we're sanitizing men, let the same happen to empowered women.
As a matter of fact, what is an empowered woman if she can't differentiate her role as a wife and professional? But then again you'd expect to see less divorce cases amongst empowered women in Africa?
Think about it, something is missing and the problem is not masculinity.
@@fishfish20 my humble opinion of why there’s cases of divorce with empowered women is that the men in their lives don’t know how to handle that, which is why it’s called toxic masculinity.
@@IkoNini what if it's the "empowered" women who end up feeling like they are superior.!!! Because that's the FACT.
Great Show, Amazing Guest..
LETA BLINKY BILL KWA SHOW
Ongelleni music na touring.HAKUNAkitu kama "toxic" masculinity...mambo ya masculinity na gender iko above ya paygrade....ama hao corporate b nyinyi ni chiwauwa zao😂
Buda Bien is by far my fav artist in Kenya ...I enjoyed the convo ...but hapo kwa Patriarchy lets agree to disagree. Keep up the good work Man .. I love ur music...
hii story ya masculinity imeboo kila mtu😂😂😂😂 lakiniiii we know where he stands😂😂😂
manze interview zenu hukua level ingne joh
The only time I disagree with bien ni iyo ufala. Ya LGBTQ
mwaf lazima aeke ngono😂😂😂😂
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we are too far gone from reality, na notion za majuu about the pillars of family. At the end we are embracing cultures that don’t suit us. facts zinatushow hizi opinions haziwork. Check statistics za families.
I couldn't have said it any better
Must be working for him though 🤷🏾♂️
Nice show. though naona umekata section zingine
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Mantra ni Learn from mistakes, inorder to perfect the craft
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Yo Bien respect manze, respect❤
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Bien uko na good points,but hapo kwa career woman umepotea. Nani atawaoa? A good lady is submissive and gives a man respect. These so-called career women have diminished respect for their men. Would our forefathers advocate for these kind of unions?
As always much love for this pod
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A man ni wa kutafuta bana....staying at home aki for a man aki ni ngori bana..keja inafaa iwe a two income household ..tupige hustle wote wawili...
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Mwaf hauezi choka na hii stori za feminism but anyways show iko dope
Nope. Mpaka ile siku hii ujinga ya kuchukia madem itaisha
@@IkoNini but buda hatuchukii madem hata mimi mwenyewe sichukii madem
@@IkoNini wewe uko na ujinga ya gender wars and competition stop throwimg shade to kibe have your own opinion not fighting kibe and emerix.
Next cast leteni Amerix tuone convo ikiwa moto kaa ile the bench ya Miguna vs Passaris😂😂😂to this day it cracks me up best tv debate ever hands down😂😂😂😂
Inakaa hakujagi Nairobi
Lakini Bien anakuanga comedian 😅😅
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We reaaallllllyyyyy waited for this one😅😅
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MSANII WANGU PENDWA BEAN FROM TZ
We're at 100k subs🎉🎉🎉🎉👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Asante Edwin 😁😁
❤❤❤Watching
I hope all kenyan artists get to this moment ....Moment of Clarity. too many scumbags in the industry.
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Meesha hiyo kipara nywele akili irudi nanii,acha Western culture
"Nviiri same story" nani amepata hiyo 😂
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Bien came prepered to spread this feminist agenda HARD!!. Hadi anasema Staki kupata sons 😆😆 Came on too strong IMO. Good pod tho.
Amerix should be next on the podcast
manze
NIKAENDA GRAMMYS INSTEAD!!!! BIEEENNNN!!!!!! ah!! please be in charge of Kenya
Bien must please his target market...
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Yall support lgeez
big up Bien
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hiyo risto ya TB Joshua 😆😆😆😆
Bro hiyo si insale,unakumbuka ule Dem ulihost juzi ? She was just talking nonesens like in imature fellow,hata wewe mwenyewe ulikuwa unadisagree na yy in everything when you were discussing with her about eve and travour issue
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Buda😂you mean mwaf's wife
Bien- blue pill
Mwaf and Ian - purple pill
Kibe, Amerix, Nyanchwani - red pill
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Bien is busy lying to this generation😂😂stay at home at your own peril brothers
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fact this
If you're insecure in your own masculinity and have a supportive partner, it should work.
@@sitieneikipronovlog6990 Nowone is against a supportive wife but shida ni getting that supportive partner who can support you through up and downs.
Ni wife ndo unaita female guest, thought ni colleague.
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bien is one of my fav artist but his opinions on patriarchy and masculinity, i really cant take any advice from him
And you’re allowed to have a different opinion. No man has life figured out
@@IkoNini that's wassup
He is tall but sooo faminine...very lambistic kenyan
Na amekushinda maganji na ako na dem ameiva kuliko wale wote umekuwa nao combined @@philipclyde7472
Waiting for that 100k mark.
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Bien anachunga ulimi... political correctness.
The issue with Mwaf is the fact that he has overestimated his wisdom/intelligence.
He preaches wokeness but went on to marry a uni girl while he was over 35😅😅😂
Still happily married so what’s your point? 😁
sioni shida
What's your problem?
Wewe uko na maneno, ni vile umekosa kwa kupeleka ukaleta hapa.
I have learnt alot from bien
Sad state of affairs listening to their perceptive on masculinity and how he is pro LGBTQ (13:20). Glad there exist voices that is currently countering such views.
Yaani mnauliza Bien story za masculinity? Na mko tu zile eeh eeh.
Tulikuwa tunafaa tufanye?
@@IkoNini Mwaf unaendelea kuwa mjinga ..sasa umeona utuletee Bien kwa topics za masculinity 🚮🚮
I second you,,,Aaah Mwafrika Umetuangusha sana
Our Christian Ronaldo Bien 👏 👏
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Its good to have conversations lakini kuita watu wanadisagree "incels" is such a cheap,surface level insult. Ni kushow this pod plus Bien hawajafanya any deep analysis of the issue. I wonder if they call angry women 'femcels' ama 'incels' ama ni insult ya maguys tu?
Good discussion though
Bien is a stay home bch
I disagree with Bien on this, ganji ni ya family wakati wewe mwanaume uko nayo, lakini babes akiwa na maweng ni zake, ile kiburi utajionea ni premium tears. Time will tell.
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