Nabil gets more hate in the powerlifting community because of his hubris, and how obvious it is that he believes he is better than others due to his genetics and natural talent. Of course he's put in work on top of that to get where he is, but feeling the need to yell "im a f**king phenom" at a powerlifting meet, a sport that is usually graced with a good amount of humility, will turn people against you. His deadlift tips are of the quality I would expect, consistent with all "coaches" who only have their own experiences and minimal time in the gym to guide them.
We need more people like this in powerlifting. Instead of guys that pull sumo saying "It's allowed in the rules" and "it suits my anthropometry!" we need to hear them say "I deadlift more than you, you know why? Because I cheat! That's right, everyone knows I PULL SUMO!". However, there seems to be a hash tag 'keep powerlifting boring' movement.
We need more people like this in powerlifting. Instead of guys that pull sumo saying "It's allowed in the rules" and "it suits my anthropometry!" we need to hear them say "I deadlift more than you, you know why? Because I cheat! That's right, everyone knows I PULL SUMO!". However, there seems to be a hash tag 'keep powerlifting boring' movement.
I can’t wait to compete against him as a 75kg lifter. I’ll be out totaling him by nationals in July, and out deadlifting him by next year. How close me and him are gives me a good “close range” goal to shoot for in terms of numbers to hit in comp.
Why don't you want to turn your toes out on a conventional? I pull with my heels very close together toes pointed out. Is this a worse/ weaker position?
It is not that simple. I pull with that style as well since i get in a better position pointing toes out and opening up my hips. If that feels better and more natural for you keep doing.
Thank you for the video. In a previous couple videos, you guys mentioned that doing resisted sport specific movements is not a good idea, things like using weighted paddles in swimming, or cable runs in track. Could you go into a bit more detail on that?
They've gone into a decent amount of detail in some past videos where they've mentioned it. It basically comes down to that the natural movement and the weighted movement are fundamentally different movements that recruit different muscle groups in different ways and different neurological paths in different ways and by doing something like adding a weight to your paddle or baseball bat you're training your body to move and adapt in a way that isn't actually going to transfer over to your sport or at least not transfer as well as just training normally would
We need more people like this in powerlifting. Instead of guys that pull sumo saying "It's allowed in the rules" and "it suits my anthropometry!" we need to hear them say "I deadlift more than you, you know why? Because I cheat! That's right, everyone knows I PULL SUMO!". However, there seems to be a hash tag 'keep powerlifting boring' movement.
Why do you think that in powerlifting there is such a variation in technique compared to weightlifting? For example: weird squat styles(like extremely wide or inability to squat with any heel), inability to deadlift conventionally and even not being able to pull hookgrip. You don't really see it varying to that degree in weightlifting, everyone can pull hook (of course the mens bars are 2mm thinner, but still), everyone can squat with their knees forward.
Its cause theyre different competitions with different goals, standards and parameters. Squat depth in powerlifting is when hip crease matches or passed below knee crease. Weightlifting doesnt have that it just has “catch that fucking weight”. Technique matches the goals
@@tanthai3653 yeah. Weightlifting is incredibly simple despite the thick rule book. Throw bar over head followed by put bar on shoulder then put bar over head. If there were easier ways to do it than the ones the winners use, they would use it.
@@ThaRealSunGod all are "capable" but that doesn't change the fact that certain limb proportions have massive leverage advantages in either sumo or conventional. since the rules allow it, a powerlifter would be smart to choose the style that fits their anatomy best
If 5 feet tall 50 kg female weightlifters can hook grip without much issue, then what's stopping heavyweight powerlifters from doing the same? Maybe if you are super stocky and have very small meaty hands, but that's a rare edge case.
Idk if this is the case for other people, but my hands get sweaty while deadlifting and in general my skin is smoother, which means that without magnesium chalk, I lose the hook grip fast. Thankfully i tried chalking my hands or else i would have given up on hook grip
Grip strength doesn’t scale up with overall strength, it becomes a problem with higher weights. You won’t see many women or lighter weight men have issues for that reason
i gotta be honest, while he is very impressive i think his style of pulling just goes completely against powerlifting as a strength sport, and as a training modality for overall strength and fitness
As someone who has no desire to compete in powerlifting (doesn’t even care about DL, just wants to use it as a developmental tool), is there any reason to pull sumo? Seems like conventional is much simpler?
French gym bro here. The person you are talking about might be Baptiste Marchais / Deodati. His ytb channel is called "bench and cigars". He was coached by Josh Bryant and influenced by westside, and has insisted a few times that back is very important for benching, which got him into arguments with the rest of the french PL community. Right now I dont think he posts much content about sports, he focuses mainly on being a far right media figure.
These were some of the least controversial points I've seen so pretty confused about why people got so riled up about it. Also Fitz becoming a mighty morphing power ranger made my brain melt. Do you guys think part of why powerlifting in social media is like it is, could be because pretty much "everyone" can do it and people can coach themself relatively far. Compared to other sports where you probably don't do it casually much or don't so it without a coach. So a common lifter might feel much more in position to criticise a fellow athlete. Now since you like drama, this is old news already in an old post, but a French athlete with a "foreign" name made me remember how a couple of the least sportsmanshiplike behaviors in judo tournaments in like the past couple of years were from athletes with that description. I recall one was Khyar (was in the Paris Olympics as well) against Maruyama if my memory serves right. Pushing and ripping his suit after call to quit when Maruyama was standing up. It looked so bad mannered and unusual that it was a jaw dropper to judo community. I can't remember if the referee gave him a penalty, I'm sure the referee saw it happen. Surprisingly I didn't have that much issues with hook grip with the weights I could lift, but trying to learn weightlifting again I had a weird session with the hook grip where afterwards if I would just slide my finger with light pressure across the length of the left thumb palm side, it would feel like hitting the funny bone in the elbow. Sparking pain and numbness through the thumb. Right hand zero issues.
Its actually pathetic that people got this mad about him posting his own opinions on his own page. I pull mixed, I see his point, its not applicable to me. It isn't a big deal. I do toes out conventional, many people do. Theres no problem with it.
We need more people like this in powerlifting. Instead of guys that pull sumo saying "It's allowed in the rules" and "it suits my anthropometry, guys, seriously..." we need to hear them say "I deadlift more than you, you know why? Because I cheat! That's right, everyone knows I PULL SUMO!". However, there seems to be a hash tag 'keep powerlifting boring' movement.
2:03 looking morphologically different king
Nabil gets more hate in the powerlifting community because of his hubris, and how obvious it is that he believes he is better than others due to his genetics and natural talent. Of course he's put in work on top of that to get where he is, but feeling the need to yell "im a f**king phenom" at a powerlifting meet, a sport that is usually graced with a good amount of humility, will turn people against you. His deadlift tips are of the quality I would expect, consistent with all "coaches" who only have their own experiences and minimal time in the gym to guide them.
He's an instagram shitehawk.
We need more people like this in powerlifting. Instead of guys that pull sumo saying "It's allowed in the rules" and "it suits my anthropometry!" we need to hear them say "I deadlift more than you, you know why? Because I cheat! That's right, everyone knows I PULL SUMO!". However, there seems to be a hash tag 'keep powerlifting boring' movement.
@@BuJammyevery walk of life needs more assholes like you. It's just better that way!
Love the little Clarence cameo sumo deadlifting cheekily
Idk guys, this sounds a bit like propaganda created by Big Hook.
Join the ruling class of hookgripers, or stay secondary citizen! 💪
angery mixed grip ladyboys vs real gigachad hook grip men
I'm truly hooked.
Powerlifters always have to find something to cry about because our sport is just a tad bit on the boring side.
the weight goes up and down. Sometimes down and up. Not much to it :)
@@tomieszand sometimes, it doesn't go up....
We need more people like this in powerlifting. Instead of guys that pull sumo saying "It's allowed in the rules" and "it suits my anthropometry!" we need to hear them say "I deadlift more than you, you know why? Because I cheat! That's right, everyone knows I PULL SUMO!". However, there seems to be a hash tag 'keep powerlifting boring' movement.
Powerlifting is much more fun than weightlifting they just have way too many competitors and often two flights per one weightclass.
For the algo.
I find the sumo deadlift deeply fascinating. Definitely a bucket list type of thing to dwell into some day.
Happy new year, guys! I'm planning a bunch of visits to Sikastan in 2023 💪
took me 4 months to get hookgrip down as a beginner, used so much thumb tape. it helped tremendously at the start
happy new year!!!....all the best for 2023 and a 100k subscribe :)
the sumo deadlift is a very interesting creature. I will keep my distance for now but might approach it in the future
2:03 where your chin go?
In swimming, being able to overextend the knees helps with speed and efficiency
I can’t wait to compete against him as a 75kg lifter. I’ll be out totaling him by nationals in July, and out deadlifting him by next year. How close me and him are gives me a good “close range” goal to shoot for in terms of numbers to hit in comp.
Good luck bro
He's a 66kg not a 75kg
Also I think he's a JR
He moved up, he’s actually about 155-160 now
@@rayjin1506 yeah that’s our weight class haha 75kg/165lbs
2:05 wtf did y'all do to him
Why don't you want to turn your toes out on a conventional? I pull with my heels very close together toes pointed out. Is this a worse/ weaker position?
It is not that simple. I pull with that style as well since i get in a better position pointing toes out and opening up my hips. If that feels better and more natural for you keep doing.
Thank you for the video. In a previous couple videos, you guys mentioned that doing resisted sport specific movements is not a good idea, things like using weighted paddles in swimming, or cable runs in track. Could you go into a bit more detail on that?
They've gone into a decent amount of detail in some past videos where they've mentioned it. It basically comes down to that the natural movement and the weighted movement are fundamentally different movements that recruit different muscle groups in different ways and different neurological paths in different ways and by doing something like adding a weight to your paddle or baseball bat you're training your body to move and adapt in a way that isn't actually going to transfer over to your sport or at least not transfer as well as just training normally would
Paddles in swimming aren’t for strength, they are for technique
Paddles and fins being for power is one of the biggest misconceptions in swimming
Fucked up what they done to Fitz. lmaoooooo
thinking a lot of the aggro is from the noodle bar figure eight strap bumper plate clout pulls he does which have nothing to do with the post but 🤷♂️
0:28 thank fuck I'm not alone in thinking this. I've seen more infighting between powerlifters than anywhere else
We need more people like this in powerlifting. Instead of guys that pull sumo saying "It's allowed in the rules" and "it suits my anthropometry!" we need to hear them say "I deadlift more than you, you know why? Because I cheat! That's right, everyone knows I PULL SUMO!". However, there seems to be a hash tag 'keep powerlifting boring' movement.
Why do you think that in powerlifting there is such a variation in technique compared to weightlifting? For example: weird squat styles(like extremely wide or inability to squat with any heel), inability to deadlift conventionally and even not being able to pull hookgrip. You don't really see it varying to that degree in weightlifting, everyone can pull hook (of course the mens bars are 2mm thinner, but still), everyone can squat with their knees forward.
There is a huge variation in weightlifting, all sorts of squat widths. You don’t get people complaining about split jerks, power jerks or squat jerks.
Its cause theyre different competitions with different goals, standards and parameters. Squat depth in powerlifting is when hip crease matches or passed below knee crease. Weightlifting doesnt have that it just has “catch that fucking weight”. Technique matches the goals
@@tanthai3653 yeah. Weightlifting is incredibly simple despite the thick rule book. Throw bar over head followed by put bar on shoulder then put bar over head. If there were easier ways to do it than the ones the winners use, they would use it.
Lol who tf has an inability to conventionally deadlift? Sumo is a choice same as not deadlifting but all are capable outside severe health factors.
@@ThaRealSunGod all are "capable" but that doesn't change the fact that certain limb proportions have massive leverage advantages in either sumo or conventional. since the rules allow it, a powerlifter would be smart to choose the style that fits their anatomy best
If 5 feet tall 50 kg female weightlifters can hook grip without much issue, then what's stopping heavyweight powerlifters from doing the same? Maybe if you are super stocky and have very small meaty hands, but that's a rare edge case.
Idk if this is the case for other people, but my hands get sweaty while deadlifting and in general my skin is smoother, which means that without magnesium chalk, I lose the hook grip fast. Thankfully i tried chalking my hands or else i would have given up on hook grip
Grip strength doesn’t scale up with overall strength, it becomes a problem with higher weights. You won’t see many women or lighter weight men have issues for that reason
i gotta be honest, while he is very impressive i think his style of pulling just goes completely against powerlifting as a strength sport, and as a training modality for overall strength and fitness
As someone who has no desire to compete in powerlifting (doesn’t even care about DL, just wants to use it as a developmental tool), is there any reason to pull sumo? Seems like conventional is much simpler?
You can use it for variation.
Reduced ROM so you can go heavier and get better stimulus for growth.
@@SisypheanRoller you shouldn’t do the deadlift for growth lol
Do RDLs instead, less cns fatigue
@@Bandito-Dorito There's nothing wrong with deadlifts for hypertrophy.
If you struggle with hookgrip I recommend watching candito's tutorial with Sean norriega
is hook grip bad for my gaming performance?
I love hook grip, I just drink so much water my hands end up sweating and I break the grip.
use chalk
There's some french powerlifter who claims that bench is 70% back. Does anyone know who is that?
French gym bro here.
The person you are talking about might be Baptiste Marchais / Deodati. His ytb channel is called "bench and cigars". He was coached by Josh Bryant and influenced by westside, and has insisted a few times that back is very important for benching, which got him into arguments with the rest of the french PL community.
Right now I dont think he posts much content about sports, he focuses mainly on being a far right media figure.
@@apo75018 thanks
These were some of the least controversial points I've seen so pretty confused about why people got so riled up about it. Also Fitz becoming a mighty morphing power ranger made my brain melt.
Do you guys think part of why powerlifting in social media is like it is, could be because pretty much "everyone" can do it and people can coach themself relatively far. Compared to other sports where you probably don't do it casually much or don't so it without a coach. So a common lifter might feel much more in position to criticise a fellow athlete.
Now since you like drama, this is old news already in an old post, but a French athlete with a "foreign" name made me remember how a couple of the least sportsmanshiplike behaviors in judo tournaments in like the past couple of years were from athletes with that description. I recall one was Khyar (was in the Paris Olympics as well) against Maruyama if my memory serves right. Pushing and ripping his suit after call to quit when Maruyama was standing up. It looked so bad mannered and unusual that it was a jaw dropper to judo community. I can't remember if the referee gave him a penalty, I'm sure the referee saw it happen.
Surprisingly I didn't have that much issues with hook grip with the weights I could lift, but trying to learn weightlifting again I had a weird session with the hook grip where afterwards if I would just slide my finger with light pressure across the length of the left thumb palm side, it would feel like hitting the funny bone in the elbow. Sparking pain and numbness through the thumb. Right hand zero issues.
I volunteer as a sika body armour program test subject
I like saying hookgrip
2:05 Fitz looking big
Hook grip is a lifestyle
"Very good powerlifter" while showing a high squat; amazing!
2:02 LOOOOOL instant like
Powerlifting is definitely one of the worst communities around. So many egos
Levers, levers, levers. Cues should always be relative to levers. This guys arms are longer than my whole body
I'm frothing for more sika shitecasts
If you act like a massive jerk then expect to get the same in return. Nabil deserves what he gets.
They should sumo wrestle instead.
Its actually pathetic that people got this mad about him posting his own opinions on his own page. I pull mixed, I see his point, its not applicable to me. It isn't a big deal.
I do toes out conventional, many people do. Theres no problem with it.
Algo x
Broke: Sumo deadlift
Woke: Snatch grip deadlift
Algo++
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I'm afraid of getting my toes amputated while doing sumo deadlift.
Go with a moderate stance and you’ll be fine. Look at how Taylor Atwood and Jamal Browner do sumo deadlifts for instance.
Nabil is Algerian, not French.
We need more people like this in powerlifting. Instead of guys that pull sumo saying "It's allowed in the rules" and "it suits my anthropometry, guys, seriously..." we need to hear them say "I deadlift more than you, you know why? Because I cheat! That's right, everyone knows I PULL SUMO!". However, there seems to be a hash tag 'keep powerlifting boring' movement.
Who you even are to judge guy what lifting much more than you lmao🤣🤣🤣
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