AS i do agree putting in vents of this type i must give some advice. if some one wants to get in they take off out side air vents and break through inside ones , then they nice large slots to get access to window lever. If the lever is locked well and good , if not well thats for you to think about. personally if you drill 13 mm holes and say leave 3mm gaps between holes this will make the frame stronger and less access to burglars.
Hi people I will say please dnt try to do it yourself best thing to do call some professional otherwise you will ruin your window which cost you more after . We fixed ours today through some professional cost us £107 but nice and tidy job ...
Great video can I just ask if u have a double window or L shape with 3 openings do u put a vent in each also does this help with condensation on windows thanks
Thank for taking the time to demonstrate and share this valuable knowledge. I work in housing standards and come across condensation and mold issues. This method of trickle ventilation to me is an option where drilling a 100mm (4") hole and fitting vents is not do-able especially in apartments on higher up floors. Can you please advise where these units can be obtained in Ireland?
Hi - just come across this as need to fit similar into panels in porch due to condensation issues. Quick qtn if I may: why not drill holes all the way through when you did the inside rather than repeat for both sides?
Do they reduce humidity in the room though? If its high humidity outside, surely humid air would blow into the house, making the humidity problem worse. This is the problem with Positive Input ventilators too.
Two of the three screws holding in the window to the outer frame are rusted in, any ideas how to free them? I have tried the screw extractor device, on other occasions, but without any luck.
We have condensation on inside windows, probably from old leaky gaskets that have shrunk and some glazed units that no longer hold a vacuum - we are planning to replace the glazed units and internal gaskets. Wouldn't trickle vents introduce more moist air and make it worse, or is the flow of warm air from inside pushing the air outwards?
No, condensation that forms on the internal glass surface is from the conditions in the house. Respiration, perspiration, cooking, cleaning, drying clothes etc etc etc are the source of the condensation. The glass and windows are just where it forms because it's generally the coldest surface in any home. No it wouldn't introduce more moist air. Depends on the air pressure or wind outside. It would either push fresh air in and push air out in another room or vice versa in that room If you're replacing the glazed units, ask for "A" rated insulated units. Low "e" glass, and argon gas filled. It will increase the insulation of the units and essentially make the glass surface warmer, and reduce the amount of condensation from forming.
Absolutely no control where exactly the drill is going to come out the other side. I know from experience. The slightest obstacle and that drill bit is going where you dont want it to go. Maybe if you put it a drill press, but not with a hand drill.
My windows/sashs have metal in them?? So I did one and went through the metal with a metal drill bit…..😅😬 what should I have done?? Great video by the way 👌🏼👊🏼
Hi is it ok to turn the inside of the vent so the incoming air is blowing up. We have a sofa under the window and a slight breeze can be felt in certain winds.
If the frame, to which you have fitted trickle vent, is hollow, not filled with insulating foam, won't the whole frame become freezing, and attract a lot of condensation, because the cold outer air will spread through it inside?
Drilled my window then found out it was strengthen so drill bit would not go through make sure you find out people if your windows can have this system fitted before buying and drilling
Hi - Is it at all possible to just make the markings on one side of the window and drill the holes all the way through? Instead of how you done the markings on both sides in the video and made holes on both sides. Hope that makes sense and would really appreciate if you could give advice as I'm planning on doing this soon to my windows. Thanks in advance!
Hi Darryl, it's a possibility alright, most windows would have drainage channels internally to let any water escape. In my experience most water that gets in is from rain from not sealing the outside section with silicone
hi, it i live in place where it window has similar system. it window is separated in 2 pieces, 30cm piece is stationary and rest of is openable. 30cm glass piece has about 3 cm gap where some plastick part is installed, it slides and it you can see holes opens up. It this piece it nto have any covers from outside or inside, it when you slide it it then cold wind is starting to blow inside and room becomes cold in minutes. When this piece is closed it is ok but it is water acuumulate on windows... what is there wrong... it should hot air should escape the room, but in this case it cold air is entering the room :(
Hi, I tried to install my trickle vents. The sash was heavy so I feared the worst, after measuring I drilled my 1st hole to come face to face with a sheet of metal half way through the frame. You say its nearly impossible, but can I not just go through that with a metal drill bit?
Hi Gareth, Yes a metal drill bit should do the job, but it will take a long time to drill all the holes. The reinforcing in your windows will most likely be like the reinforcing in the video at 0:50. So you'll most likely have to drill through from the other side as well. It's do-able but it will take a good bit of time
Even if your drilling perfectly straight, what can happen is the drill bit can hit something in the internal layers and send the drill bit off line, and the drill bit will come out the otherside too high or too low. And the vent won't cover over the hole. So basically it's just to make sure that in the end, the holes / slots are covered by the vent. Hope that makes sense
all you have to do for pvc windows is to move the handle by half a quarter. A micro vent gap is being created. Use trickle when windows are not openable.
Go for it if you're 100% certain you're going to drill it straight. And 100% certain there isn't something in the centre of the window profile that's going to send the drill bit off course. You might be lucky and not hit anything with a small drill bit, but a big drill bit it is so easy for it to go off course.
It's done for passive ventilation. So there is fresh air circulating without the need for interaction from the occupier of building.(eg. You opening the window slightly). It's a requirement for the building regulations in Ireland and the UK and probably other countries too. It is to promote healtier air quality in the building and prevent carbon monoxide poisoning. Hope the helps to get your head around it. It's not drilling holes in a window just for the laugh
@@PaddysDiy I know what it's for and that new build have this requirement. What I'm saying is that it's a silly idea. You have a brand new, fancy window with multiple chambers and great U/R values and yet somehow there needs to be a hole drilled through part of the frame which effectively cancels out some of the effects that a modern window frame provides. No such requirements exist in Poland for example but most new windows (tilt and swivel ones) have four handle positions. Fully closed and sealed, fully closed but unsealed, swivel and pivot. This way you're not compromising the integrity of the frame to provide ventilation. You can simply unseal it and let a minimal amount of air to circulate BUT you have the option to fully seal it back again. You can't do that with perma-vented windows. I'm looking to replace my windows soon and won't be getting vented ones (existing ones are not vented so I have a choice). Thanks for taking the time to answer 👍
@@pawelnotts i suppose it's the principle that it has to be passive ventilation is the main reason they're used. That the ventilation is achieved without the input of the occupant. Saying that though i 100% agree with you. On paper it seems like a good idea, but in practice they're not. Builder's and landlords love them though, nice cheap way of bringing an older property up to standard.
someone who has to make their windows comply with building regulations. Regulations that call for passive ventilation. eg. Ventilation that is not reliant on someone opening a window 🙄
If you live in Ireland you'll know why! Relative humidity is very high and you wouldn't sleep with a cracked open window due to wind/rain noise (and maybe burglars!)
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@Darkhorse Cloud that's the reinforcing i mentioned in the video. Drill through it. Not a quick or easy job
Excellent, not only shows how but this is a well made video, no wasted yapping, clear images and instructions.
Agree, thumbs up for this
I’ve got a huge condensation issue in my conservatory and this is really easy to follow. Nice one 👍
Glad it helped
Did this help with the condensation issue, I have the same problems and wondering if to go ahead with this as it's the cheapest to start with
Great instruction with no pointless yapping 👍👍
Cheers 👍
Great video, thank you. Easy to follow. Have just done it on one window - three to go!
Glad it helped 👍
Absolutely perfect! First class explanatory video. Thanks Paddy
Glad it helped 👍
Great video, has really helped me out . Will be putting this into practice on the inlaws house. let's hope nothing goes wrong!!
Thanks for the comment. Measure twice cut once :)
This got to be the best video ever, well explained thanks
Glad it helped
AS i do agree putting in vents of this type i must give some advice.
if some one wants to get in they take off out side air vents and break through inside ones , then they nice large slots to get access to window lever.
If the lever is locked well and good , if not well thats for you to think about.
personally if you drill 13 mm holes and say leave 3mm gaps between holes this will make the frame stronger and less access to burglars.
if your hands and arms are 13mm thick then you have problems pal
@@immortalgraphics 😂
Great video, good job Paddy 👏🏻👍🏻
Glad it helped 👍
Great video, followed it carefully and vent installed perfectly - thank you :)
Excellent. Well done
Hi people I will say please dnt try to do it yourself best thing to do call some professional otherwise you will ruin your window which cost you more after .
We fixed ours today through some professional cost us £107 but nice and tidy job ...
Any numbers mate?
Great video can I just ask if u have a double window or L shape with 3 openings do u put a vent in each also does this help with condensation on windows thanks
Good video. Going to have a bash at this. Thank you.
Thank for taking the time to demonstrate and share this valuable knowledge. I work in housing standards and come across condensation and mold issues. This method of trickle ventilation to me is an option where drilling a 100mm (4") hole and fitting vents is not do-able especially in apartments on higher up floors. Can you please advise where these units can be obtained in Ireland?
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Hi - just come across this as need to fit similar into panels in porch due to condensation issues.
Quick qtn if I may: why not drill holes all the way through when you did the inside rather than repeat for both sides?
great video very clear and informative thanks
Do they reduce humidity in the room though? If its high humidity outside, surely humid air would blow into the house, making the humidity problem worse. This is the problem with Positive Input ventilators too.
Thanks for sharing I did think to my windows turned out brilliantly thanks.
Exactly how I would do the job, thumbs up from me.
Two of the three screws holding in the window to the outer frame are rusted in, any ideas how to free them? I have tried the screw extractor device, on other occasions, but without any luck.
Excellent video, thanks. One question, why didn't you just drill completely through the frame from one side?
With a hand drill it's nearly impossible to stop the drill bit wandering off course. That's why you drill from both sides
Also some profiles have offset Chambers inside .
Really helpful and informative video - thank you.
We have condensation on inside windows, probably from old leaky gaskets that have shrunk and some glazed units that no longer hold a vacuum - we are planning to replace the glazed units and internal gaskets.
Wouldn't trickle vents introduce more moist air and make it worse, or is the flow of warm air from inside pushing the air outwards?
No, condensation that forms on the internal glass surface is from the conditions in the house. Respiration, perspiration, cooking, cleaning, drying clothes etc etc etc are the source of the condensation. The glass and windows are just where it forms because it's generally the coldest surface in any home.
No it wouldn't introduce more moist air. Depends on the air pressure or wind outside. It would either push fresh air in and push air out in another room or vice versa in that room
If you're replacing the glazed units, ask for "A" rated insulated units. Low "e" glass, and argon gas filled. It will increase the insulation of the units and essentially make the glass surface warmer, and reduce the amount of condensation from forming.
great demo
Well made and informative
Thank you
Great video, really clear - thank you👍😊
Glad it helped
@@PaddysDiy 👍👍👍😊😊😊
How did you cut so neatly across the frame I just couldn't do it....
Could just drill right throught for your vent holes saves all repeat and measuring on both sides
Absolutely no control where exactly the drill is going to come out the other side. I know from experience. The slightest obstacle and that drill bit is going where you dont want it to go. Maybe if you put it a drill press, but not with a hand drill.
Great video
Cheers
My windows/sashs have metal in them?? So I did one and went through the metal with a metal drill bit…..😅😬 what should I have done??
Great video by the way 👌🏼👊🏼
That's about all you can do. The metsl just makes the job a hell of a lot slower and tedious
Brilliant video 👍
Hi is it ok to turn the inside of the vent so the incoming air is blowing up. We have a sofa under the window and a slight breeze can be felt in certain winds.
Yeah absolutely
How do i know if my windows has metal frame?
If the frame, to which you have fitted trickle vent, is hollow, not filled with insulating foam, won't the whole frame become freezing, and attract a lot of condensation, because the cold outer air will spread through it inside?
It's absolutely possible, but I've never seen any condensation or mold on windows that have them. And I've seen A LOT of windows
Great I need this fine on my windows
Drilled my window then found out it was strengthen so drill bit would not go through make sure you find out people if your windows can have this system fitted before buying and drilling
Thank you 👍
Hi - Is it at all possible to just make the markings on one side of the window and drill the holes all the way through? Instead of how you done the markings on both sides in the video and made holes on both sides. Hope that makes sense and would really appreciate if you could give advice as I'm planning on doing this soon to my windows. Thanks in advance!
after watching this vid i was thinking the same i have no idea
You can but you risk cracking the plastic that's why you drill through both sides
You'd have to be absolutely bang on with your drilling. I'd doubt many could drill perfectly straight holes through 50mm without a pillar drill.
How Do I check Paddy if my windows have reinforcing Thanks
Colud this be done on a door as well
Yep
Great vid, thanks
Glad it helped
Won't there be condense water build up in the inside on the sash?
Hi Darryl, it's a possibility alright, most windows would have drainage channels internally to let any water escape. In my experience most water that gets in is from rain from not sealing the outside section with silicone
also can you see daylight when you drill through?
Good job!!!
Great video - thankyou very much.
Thanks for the comment
Why external part is fitted so low?
Would a dremel type tool be OK for routing out?
It would probably take a while. Don't know if it would go deep enough. There are layers further in, in most pvc sections
Is this just the same process for upvc doors?
If you fit it in the panel you'll have no issues and it'll be the same as this video
@@PaddysDiy cheers 🤙
Well iv just got a trickle vent for my upvc door yet the drill bits arnt doing anything and the screws wont go into the plastic either…
why dont you just drill the holes stright through from one side?
You'd think you would drill straight, but the internal layers in the pvc profile will send the drill off course
hi, it i live in place where it window has similar system. it window is separated in 2 pieces, 30cm piece is stationary and rest of is openable. 30cm glass piece has about 3 cm gap where some plastick part is installed, it slides and it you can see holes opens up. It this piece it nto have any covers from outside or inside, it when you slide it it then cold wind is starting to blow inside and room becomes cold in minutes. When this piece is closed it is ok but it is water acuumulate on windows... what is there wrong... it should hot air should escape the room, but in this case it cold air is entering the room :(
Hard to know what the problem is
Good job, bro !
Nice one!
Hi, I tried to install my trickle vents. The sash was heavy so I feared the worst, after measuring I drilled my 1st hole to come face to face with a sheet of metal half way through the frame. You say its nearly impossible, but can I not just go through that with a metal drill bit?
Hi Gareth, Yes a metal drill bit should do the job, but it will take a long time to drill all the holes. The reinforcing in your windows will most likely be like the reinforcing in the video at 0:50. So you'll most likely have to drill through from the other side as well. It's do-able but it will take a good bit of time
Window and Door Parts Ireland thanks but it won't harm the integrity of the structure?
Hi gareth, sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I didn't get a notification for your comment. No it shouldn't be an issue
Great video
How come you are not drilling rite through the frame? is there a reason?
Thanks
Even if your drilling perfectly straight, what can happen is the drill bit can hit something in the internal layers and send the drill bit off line, and the drill bit will come out the otherside too high or too low. And the vent won't cover over the hole. So basically it's just to make sure that in the end, the holes / slots are covered by the vent. Hope that makes sense
@@PaddysDiy ok cool will do it that way when i do mine
Brilliant
I drilled my holes with the window in place.
Hard to stop the drill bit from wandering and going somewhere it shouldn't doing it that way, But whatever work
all you have to do for pvc windows is to move the handle by half a quarter. A micro vent gap is being created. Use trickle when windows are not openable.
The problem with this is that you cannot lock the window in that position, so it could invalidate your house insurance.
Hi! I've tried this on a very windy day, but there was still no air coming in.
Why can’t you pilot hole from one side to the other??????
Go for it if you're 100% certain you're going to drill it straight. And 100% certain there isn't something in the centre of the window profile that's going to send the drill bit off course. You might be lucky and not hit anything with a small drill bit, but a big drill bit it is so easy for it to go off course.
You could have done that in situ .
How would you do the outside?
Adios double glazing
Only in GB you drill holes through windows instead of leaving them slightly open...
It's done for passive ventilation. So there is fresh air circulating without the need for interaction from the occupier of building.(eg. You opening the window slightly). It's a requirement for the building regulations in Ireland and the UK and probably other countries too. It is to promote healtier air quality in the building and prevent carbon monoxide poisoning. Hope the helps to get your head around it. It's not drilling holes in a window just for the laugh
@@PaddysDiy I know what it's for and that new build have this requirement. What I'm saying is that it's a silly idea. You have a brand new, fancy window with multiple chambers and great U/R values and yet somehow there needs to be a hole drilled through part of the frame which effectively cancels out some of the effects that a modern window frame provides.
No such requirements exist in Poland for example but most new windows (tilt and swivel ones) have four handle positions. Fully closed and sealed, fully closed but unsealed, swivel and pivot. This way you're not compromising the integrity of the frame to provide ventilation. You can simply unseal it and let a minimal amount of air to circulate BUT you have the option to fully seal it back again. You can't do that with perma-vented windows.
I'm looking to replace my windows soon and won't be getting vented ones (existing ones are not vented so I have a choice).
Thanks for taking the time to answer 👍
@@pawelnotts i suppose it's the principle that it has to be passive ventilation is the main reason they're used. That the ventilation is achieved without the input of the occupant. Saying that though i 100% agree with you. On paper it seems like a good idea, but in practice they're not.
Builder's and landlords love them though, nice cheap way of bringing an older property up to standard.
That cut into pvc Is terrible looking
Hi
Who would put a trickle vent on a opening vent 🥱🥱
someone who has to make their windows comply with building regulations. Regulations that call for passive ventilation. eg. Ventilation that is not reliant on someone opening a window 🙄
@@PaddysDiy exactly. you wouldn't want to leave your windows open at night or if you were out. Great vid, cheers.
If you live in Ireland you'll know why! Relative humidity is very high and you wouldn't sleep with a cracked open window due to wind/rain noise (and maybe burglars!)
If a building is left empty ventilation is essential.