Hoover PowerScrub repair
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Hoover Power Scrub Deluxe Carpet Cleaner
Model: FH50150
Seized scrub brushes stopped spinning due to rusted motor shaft.
This is a very common issue with air type motors, as the air & moisture mix to cause the shaft to rust. Models with a sealed separate electric motor tend not to have this issue as frequently. A replacement air type motor for this model is generally $25.
This model is often sold at stores like Kohls, Walmart, Target, etc.
Good instructions. I would add to clean everything and soak the bearings in Liquid Wrench for a few hours, dry, and apply a liberal coat of water proof grease. These are sealed bearings, sealed against dust and dirt, not water. On the gear teeth and shafts I use lithium grease. Run reassembled for 5-10 min to work the grease in so the brushes spin with some torque. The bearing on the end of the shaft is easy to replace ($9 for 10 on Amazon). The one behind the power fan is much more difficult, so be careful when pushing the shaft out of the housing. You may want to soak the shaft in Liquid Wrench over night. Replacing both will make the drive ‘like new’ otherwise you risk bearing seizure again.
Goddamn bro why you so smart
This is great except for these items:
The huge text sometimes obscures what the hand is doing, and without sound, I had to re-watch a few times . . . not a serious problem.
The bearing doesn't just come off; it is pressed on the shaft, and would have to be carefully pried off. In my case, it was frozen/corroded to the shaft so I could not get the transition gear off.
Otherwise, the instruction was well done. I found all the screws easily, and will have no problem reassembling the machine, but I may have to buy a new motor assembly. I'm still working on cleaning and freeing up the drive shaft. We shall see.
The huge text was intentional, and when laying out the video, I tried to make sure most of the important items could be viewed. The large text was so someone could run the slider back and forth and see what step they need to easily track to. The original video actually did have my recorded audio. However, there was a lot of ambient noise and the video was actually about 10 minutes longer. By removing the vocals, I was able to trim 10 minutes off the length, and it wasn't as distracting with ambient audio. I did not have appropriate equipment to create a over dub of the instructions.
If the bearing is seized completely, to where the shaft cannot move, the assembly should be replaced. The new assembly should be opened carefully and greased thoroughly before installation.
Before going through the trouble of disassembly, check the docking seal, and the matching hole on the bottom of the recovery tank, to make sure it did not become dislodged, or is dirty with lint, the end of your cat's tail, or other foreign matter. Clean and apply a small amount of petroleum jelly to the seal with a Q-tip.
When iserting the recovery tank, make certain that the toes on the back of the tank are hooked into the slots before clamping, or you will have very little suction, and the brushes will not turn. Also, the brushes will not turn, and there is little suction with the handle in the upright position, as the air gate is closed. The handle must first be lowered onto a chair seat, or held by another person, with the front raised, and the power turned on. You should then be able to feel the brushes turning. Try not to chew your fingers up by feeling the bruses turn.
What do I do with the extra parts??? Just kidding...great instructional video!!! So easy to do!!!
Dude this is honestly one of the best videos I’ve ever watched on RUclips. Saved me the time and effort of having to send mine in for repairs. And props for putting the step by step instructions of putting the thing back together too. I would’ve been lost lol. Thank you
SKIP THE TWO SCREWS THAT HOLD DOWN THE LEVER ON THE TOP .... THEY DON'T SCEW DOWN THE HOUSING ONLY THE LEVER🙂🙂 ONE LESS PIECE TO PUT BACK TOGETHER
Bearing and motor shaft rusted Are they replaceable?
You're amazing for making this video! Thank you.
The turbine assembly is very cheaply made, and I'm sure hoover knows about the problem but refuses to spend the money to fix it. The metal gear and bearings should be stainless. It's the only way to fix this problem. I'll never buy a hoover carpet cleaner again because of this negligence. The fix I'm going to try is globbing the gear and bearing up with grease, and then letting the brushes spin for a few minutes after each use to make sure everything is nice and dry inside. I hate this sort of thing... one cheap part makes the entire product garbage.
Agreed. they could have also done a better job of lubricating the bearing. I was using Singer machine oil, and that helped for quite a while. Another unit I repaired, I had used lithium grease, and it has not seized up since, after nearly 2 years of sporadic use. I think Lithium grease is the best product to use. Knowing this, I still think they should have used higher quality parts and better grease to begin with.
Thank you so much. I used my carpet cleaner only one time and then I let it sit for months. When I tried to use it, it wouldn't start. I knew the unit shouldn't be torn up just yet. I RUclips this video, and started working. I must say with the help of you, I'm proud of myself. I just finished cleaning my carpet!
Great video! Do you recommend any way to prevent this from seizing up again in the future, like storing in a certain position or drying certain parts out when storing?
One RUclips commentor on another video said remove the tanks, tilt the cradle back, and turn on the motor to spin the brushes for 5 to 10 minutes to dry them out. Hopefully this will prevent the turbine from rusting out again.
Great vid! The issue I have with my hoover is the power cord got caught up in the wheel and got chewed up pretty good. I cannot find any vids online on how to replace the cord. Help :(
I haven't had to deal with the power assembly on this unit. There's 3x screws on the bottom for the power cord, but I have not had to make any changes or replace the cord on these, yet. Be very cautious and understand that and modifications you do to the power assembly are at your own risk.
Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!
Great! My brushes are moving again! Though I don’t know how long this unit will last. But it wasn’t very expensive so I guess that’s why there’s some issues with it that pop up after not owning it for very long. But hopefully this will extend the life of my machine! The video was very easy to follow. And I’m a girl so if I can follow it anyone can!
+Doramius Just what I needed to get my Hoover FH50150 brushes freed up and running again. I made sure to clean the lint filter in the air passage and there are bearings above and below the helical gear shaft on my shampooer. The lower bearing was pretty easy to get going again (I used WD-40). The upper bearing was completely seized and I had to capture the inner race between 2 nuts on a 1/4-20 screw and grab the outer race with pliers to break it free. Although it's freed up, I'm sure it'll seize up again soon because the shaft and bearings should be stainless. I did make sure that you can actually back-drive the air motor with the brushes when things are freed up.
I think you just saved my marriage. Thanks dude!
Thanks for this helpful video. I only used this once and this cleaner ceased up on me. Of course it was after warranty period. I was thinking about buying a new unit until I saw this. Hoover's used to be reliable, not anymore
Nice video but the lighting was poor. And....instead of forcing the impeller with plyers you should clean the bearing and oil or grease them. Mine worked much better after doing that. Other than that it was a really detailed video. Sound would have been nice though.
Omg thank you so much! Nobody repairs carpet washers around town and I thought I might have to buy a new one until I found your video! Can't thank you enough very helpful!
I been working on all kinda model's and just thought I chime in to be helpful these Hoover models almost always have the same issue that is the water intake wheel seems to give way and once that happens you will here a terrible grinding noise and not really worth replacing unless you have a new motor.
Any advice on repairing the hand held sprayer? Mine worked the first time using it, and then never worked again.
This tutorial was so great. Very thorough and detailed. The brushes are spinning again! Thank you!!!
Nice Job !....very detailed .......can you tell me where fuse is on this machine?.....thanks Rick
in the instructions, there is a section that says "not to remove these screws' You'd remove those screws for access to the power cable and inline fuse (if your model came with one). Open at your own risk, as you are working with high voltage lines. make sure the unit is disconnected from power, and that the seals are all restored properly before closing up and powering on.
You sure made this job easy! You saved me a lot of time trying to figure out how to get the machine apart. You are definitely a Professor at the University of RUclips! Many, many thanks Sir!
Great video. I was able to fix my carpet cleaner. I even called Hoover and told them that the brushes were not working. I got the carpet cleaner as a gift, and I was asked to provide a receipt, knowing that it was a gift. I will never do business with hoover ever again. It was a gift you dont inconvenience the person that gave you the gift. Bad business for Hoover.
Not sure how you get the red cover to pop off. Your cover seemed to pop off easily.
Thanks! Your video enabled me to get my brushes spinning again =) That being said, they stop spinning with even the smallest amount of pressure on them...as in when I tilt the unit down to where the brushes make contact with the carpet =(
Started to use the cleaner this morning and the brushes are not spinning again. I will tear into it one more time and use some white silicone spray this time. Looks like I may be buying turbine. Is there any thing we can do to prevent water from entering this part and causes the rust to begin with? Seems like a very poor design.
So far using lithium grease has been the best at preventing seizing of the brushes. This is a very inexpensive unit, and actually very good for the price. Unless you're wholly concerned about the warranty, opening the unit up and using lithium grease on the bearing and motor shaft is not a bad option as a preventative option. The risk is completely yours, but IMO worth it.
@@patriciacryer On another video, one comment said that after cleaning, remove the tanks, tilt the unit back, and run the brushes for 5 to 10 minutes (with the motor on) to dry them out to prevent the turbine from rusting again.
Actually need entire pump assembly
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Great video! Though you did not give any instruction to lubricate the turbine shaft before reassembly. Also, at 9:17, you missed spelled “Waste” without the E on the end.
This was just a spontaneous made video. The original audio was a lot of noise and random talking of what I was doing. When I put the video together, some of the words were truncated, so you'll probably notice more than the one word with the last letter dropped. I had used lubrication after I made the video and tested it out, and there are many comments about this below. It's not worth re-upping the video for the minor errors.
Awesome same issues problem eradicate
Yup I am buying a new carpet cleaner...
My bottom bearing is rusty... What do I do? It doesn't seem like it's supposed to be replaced
Before trying to remove the bearing, you may want to use something to dissolve the corrosion. Just be aware the plastic holding it may be brittle. Yes, the bearing is replaceable. If you are able to get the old one out without damaging the plastic, the new one goes in nicely. You can try most corrosion solvents, but note some solvents can attack the plastic housing. Regular WD-40 or Evapo-rust are generally easy on and good with plastics.
I'm thinking of using
WATER RESISTANT SILICONE LUBRICANT to keep these from rusting. What do you think?
Lithium grease is usually better for this application, since it bonds better to the metal of the bearing. The motor cover material is resistant to the lithium grease, from breaking it down. The speed at which the shaft spins in the bearing might get pretty warm from friction, which is probably why it rusts and seizes so easily) and silicone doesn't do very well with warmer temperatures, where it can wear down and lose its lubricating ability. You can try it on your own and post results, as I'm sure it will work initially, but lithium grease is recommended.
@@Doramius am I only spraying the bearing? Where did you apply it? I just got the lithium grease btw :D
@@Psvr2Villain Bearing and the shaft. any moving metal part inside the motor housing. Basically on the metal parts shown around Steps 12 & 13.
Wish there was volume Jesus christ
Step 1. Turn the lights on.
I just saved over $100 by following this video. Thank you!
notice how you completely missed how to take out the white hover gear. wth.
4:38 - Remove transition gear [white]
What did you do to prevent that motor shaft from seizing again?
Lithium grease. Very easy to find. It bonds best with the metal and prevents future seizing and rusting.
Great Video! Where is the fuse? I am pretty sure mine popped. the brushes were sticking. i should have cleaned. i heard the motor being overtaxed and pop nothing. I am guessing if I remove the housing unit I will see it. just wondering if it is a fuse I can replace from a local store or need it from hoover.
It's an inline fuse that is heatshrink tube encased. You can replace at your own risk, but it can be found if you remove the power line screws that in the instructions you were told not to remove. Just note, you open at your own risk, and you should NOT have power connected when checking and replacing.
@@Doramius fortunate for me my unit is still under warranty. They no longer make parts for this so the entire unit is getting replaced per licensed repair shop. If not, I will leave it plugged in while wearing an aluminum hat because I like to live my life reckless and dangerous like that.
What is the metal fan with a black cage around it when you open it up?
I believe you're thinking of the Main Motor Assembly? If you're able to locate a parts listing schematic from Hoover, it sounds like you're describing the assembly #25 (Motor Cover Assembly), but specifically talking about #23 (Motor Assembly w/fuse).
Wonder if you should put some water proof grease on shaft of motor
Adding lithium grease is mentioned in other posts. It's highly water-resistant.
Need gear drive and bearing
Can I get a parts book?
While this is an older model machine, many parts are still available online. Because of the age, many resellers are not carrying them in stock, so some parts you may have to contact Hoover directly. As stated in the video, the model is FH50150, and online searches have several results, including details part assemblies and part numbers.
Ran into this problem and went through your steps. I would verify that this fixed my issue. Thanks. I think it also increased suction but not sure. I did have problem still but turned the hex where the brushes went at the end and worked after performing your steps
You rock! Thank you for this video. I have the HF50250 but it is the same basic concept. Can you do a video about leaks? If I leave mine sitting over night with a full tank of clean water it will be empty in the a.m. it is leaking from the hole you insert the shaft into from the brushes... Why would hoover not make that box that in cases the gears water proof? Or like you said, out of stainless steel instead of Iron? I miss my Bissell! If I had known to do this to it, it would not have ended up in the dump! I had it 10 years and never had a problem except the brushes stopped rotating 3 months ago... I bought this hoover and poof! I'm searching for repair videos... Thanks again!
Best. Help. Ever. Working perfectly again thank you!
thanks, this video saved me from having to buy another carpet cleaner..... again.
Best help video EVER! Thanks for the step by step thoural instructions.
Wanted to say thank you for the fine video for repair and replace this crappy part. Hoover could have done a much better job in design
Superb! Thank you so much Doramius. Great help!
Don’t you lube the shaft before putting it all back together?
Thank you So much! This video is truly appreciated!
Awesome... mine did the same thing so this video helped. But, my bearing is rusted and seized up, urg
Thanks! Was able to get mine working again. On mine the top bearing was seized instead of the motor. Just took some on blaster and a little working
Thks very much, after watching how many screws you had to remove. I just pulled out brushes and inserted a 3/8 allen wrench and turned it freed up and now works great. Thks again
Just remember, the gears are plastic, and most of the attempts doing this often cause damage to the gears. This is NOT a recommended method to free up the brushes.
Thanks for the great demo. But after following your directions, although I was able to get the motor shaft to start spinning again, when I put everything back together the brush still aren't spinning. Plus I get a burning odor and the machine sounds weird. Any suggestions.
Same here. I’m guessing the motor is fried. Time for a new one!
Thank you for the great tutorial.
Thank you, showed me exactly what to do to get it going again.
this video was a help, thanks! Comments were also good too!
How do I get that white transition gear off
It should slide off. If there's a lot of rust, it could make it really difficult to remove.
@@Doramius thanks for the reply yeah I went to pull the white gear up and the Barron is blocking me from doing that and I can't get it to come off there is some rust on there.
@@maniacrose2696 If the bearing is rusted solid, the motor unit may need to be replaced. Part# 440003860
Gave your video a like thanks so much I called Hoover and my cleaner is still under warranty they are gonna help with fixing it I'll mention to them about this!
great video! very thankful...
Took my upholstery brush apart and can not put it back together on my Hoover Power Scrub Deluxe
Those can be a pain to put back together, since sometimes the parts fit very similarly to where something else belongs, and sometimes it looks like it goes in backwards. I've done that a few times. Check orientation, and it should be able to go together.
I took my motor assembly apart and the pin or shift that has the ridges on it that I guess help spin the gears is very rusted. Is that something that I should just clean up and oil or replace if possible ? Also shaft that the white gear is on, is really locked up! I even tried to break it loose and get it really loosened up with pliers. I got it to move it's still really tight. Any suggestions?
Someone recently showed me where they submerged a completely rusted seized motor, with the removed gears, in white vinegar for about 24-48 hours (replacing the vinegar every 8-10 hours). They used a stiff bristled brush to scrub the shaft occasionally. They carefully dried it off, made sure the shaft moved freely, and then applied the WD40 White lithium grease. So possibly a new technique for those severely rusted shafts to try one last ditch effort to see if you can get them back into working shape.
Thank you so so much!
Thanks for the video my bearing and shaft is rusted :/ it will spin but makes noise and not smoothly any recommendations on where to get parts for it ?
If you need a full replacement part, it is called the "Turbine Assembly" part #440003860. They're usually less than $50.
@@Doramius thank you I ordered it !
Thank you 😌
How do you open the machine? I unscrewed all the top screws and it will not open. Help!!
2:08. Make sure to remove all 8 screws. Some are deep set, look for the arrows that point to them.
@@KMyer I removed all 8 screws on the bottom and double-checked and still cannot get the lid off to get at the engine. Any ideas?
Thanks!
How do you take the white gear off? You make a jump cut in your video at that part.
The plastic gears should pull out without any effort, as they have no retaining pins or clips.
@@Doramius the metal when next to it it stopping it from pulling off.
@@Pinesal The metal sounds like the bearing. Is the bearing rusted to the shaft? If it is, it may need to be replaced with a new bearing.
@@Doramius maybe. I didn't want to break it off. I'm not sure if it is supposed to come off since it's not shown in the video.
If you look at the placing of the gears back, and the testing of the motion, it should give a better look at the assembly. The white cover just holds the gears in place.
I just bought one. Can you give me preventive advice?
If it is used regularly, the brushes tend not to seize up so easily. If it hasn't been used in a month, you can try manually turning the brushes, by hand, to break up any light rusting. If you feel comfortable opening the unit, you can follow the video and when you open the motor, you can apply lithium grease to the bearing and shaft to help prevent rusting. Lithium grease can be found at Walmart, Target, most auto stores, and I've seen several grocery stores sell it. It is very inexpensive. WD40 even makes a Lithium grease. You can use regular WD40 in a pinch, but lithium grease seems to work for a more extensive period, without re-application. Using regular WD40, I've had to re-apply every 3-6 months. Using lithium grease, I'm coming on 20 months without requiring a re-application.
Doramius Thank you so much. Besides this obvious flaw. Does it clean carpet pretty good? Got it for 80$ on Amazon so hope it's worth the money.
Overall, it's not a bad design. The function is actually pretty good for cleaning and does very well. $80 is quite a bargain and well worth it. Depending on the level of carpet soiling, you can dilute more or less the amount of detergent used. For extra soiled areas, in wash mode with less diluted solution, make a few more passes back and forth generously spraying the carpet, making sure to get the scrubbers over the desired area. When Rinsing, you may need to empty the waste and refill the clean water quite a few times. These brushes are some of the easiest to clean hair and pet fur from. Most of the time, the cleaning solution works great to remove pet and other smells, but after washing and a light rinse, lightly shake baking soda over the lightly damp carpet. Wait 15-20 minutes, and then rinse completely.
Doramius Thank you for all the advice.
The plastic impeller inside the turbine split in two. $40 for a new assembly
Thank you for showing detail of the disassembly process. i was finally able to get the brushes spinning again but it turned out the fan blades were stuck, not the motor shaft. Great video!