This is interesting. I had attempted to decipher the syllables myself before, as there actually is a YT video I found that isolated all Dread voice lines, from the Weavers, Attendants, Grims, Husks, Omens, and Harbingers. It’s easy to tell which ones are meant to be melee and grunting, but many more are sentences that haven’t been deciphered yet. As an added bonus, it seems Dread units say different things independent of one another, i.e Subjugators and Tormentors say different things and don’t share any similar voice lines. One example of Tormentor voice lines was shared in one of TFS ViDocs: “Khos’yen’e’ghet” and “vha’tokhu’vakhat”
@@sehyunjun251 so, are we gonna have to wait for a lore tab or something that basically has the Dread language (which I’m calling Dreadic) written on it? Cause I pray that Bungie is actually gonna want us to decipher it like we did with the Eliksni language,
@sehyunjun251 I have hoping to find some overlapping words in the process of recording them, but although several entire voicelines are shared, I have yet to find separate words that are shared between voicelines.
@@sehyunjun251 we have some overlap based on context from multiple dread sources. Not as perfect, but by using overlapping phrases/syllables with those, we might have enough context to be able to start forming a rudimentary understanding. It would be WAY easier though if we had a single translated sentence.
Bungie said they made a fully translatable language, so I imagine (hope) that they will give us some kind of cipher to do so. Maybe at the very least, we'll get a single sentence translated in a lore tab to get us started.
Just playing the game and hearing them, I honestly thought Bungie was full of crap, but listening to them in a row with subtitles, I can for sure see the patterns of a language now. I'm not sure if it is a full language, but there is for sure a structure, specific rules, and repeated words/syllables.
Oh wow. I questioned whether it was a real language as Bungie claimed, but seeing the transcriptions with the language, I can see obvious patterns and overlaps now. Wonder if we can draw some context at some of their word usage to get a better reference to the meanings of a few words as a baseline.
I think we should really start looking at what the dev said when he said we could decipher it. "Kos yen eget" "Va Toko vagat" I believe there is a reason he used these lines but why?
Great video!! Me being a native Spanish speaker, the first time I heard "Id' ga' ko' ta" I'd swear I heard "hpta" which is an abbreviation for a Spanish slang. I'm still 100% sure the Dread would call us hpta.
Is there any “victory” dialogue for when you die to an Omen? I know every other species does a taunt / growl once they kill you if there are no targets around.
It’s not Bungie has made up several languages for there enemy factions: in halo the covenant speak can be translated and same with the fallen in destiny
@@foliagedcarcass I know it's an actual language you can learn, but what I was wondering was whether the voice actors understood the language as they spoke it
@@foliagedcarcassthe dread language maybe is a last minute idea but the dread them selves have been an idea for a long time with the grim technically being a idea since warmind, they just didn’t have them as put together till the release of final shape
Wonder if rhulk or nezerec could speak dread. Probably not but I like to think it shares some similarities to the language the lubrean civilization (rhulk’s people) spoke. In my head canon it’s a language that’s a bastardized amalgamation of the different languages the species the dread are based on spoke.
Seems like a nice compilation! I wonder how many unique voicelines each has. Is the water mark symbol on the overthrow UI custom or a existing dread symbol?
Here's what I, an amateur linguist and conlanger, could infer from this alone: The syllable structure is most likely CCVC (C=Consonant, V=Vowel). Potential consonant inventory: *Nasals: /m n (ŋ)/ *Plosives: /p b t d k g/ *Fricatives: /v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ (x~χ) h/ *Affricates: /dz dʒ/ *Approximants: /l r~ɾ j w/ Potential vowel inventory, including gemination: /ɑ ɑː ɛ ɛː i iː o oː u uː/ Overall I'd say it sounds pretty cool, and I'd love to hear more!
bungie devs said it would be possible to understand some of their dialogue, has someone been able to like translate them or something? im curious since the expansion dropped
As far as I'm concerned it's them talking shit. Which to be fair wouldn't surprise me if it was true. I've decipher some of the Eliksni language and sometimes my friends have to wrangle me cuz I hear one of the captains run his mouth and you just see my big titan ass veer off course to go clobber him for opening his trap. The AI does talk shit like in halo you just have to learn the language. I'm hoping Bungie does the same with the Dread Language. I'm not a linguist by any measure but there are times when these things speak that by their tone and how they are saying some of what they say feels like they are legit calling me out for being a "puny human in a tin suit" and I will actively hunt these assholes when i hear them.
The Subjugators sound feminine don’t they? Not to mention they have a more noble feminine pose. Yes Rhulk had one too but his was more of an arrogant nature. These feel more like female warriors who still retain their noble appearance. That’s just me though. Either way, can’t deny that they are awesome
Not sure if this is the case in all translations but in polish all of them have feminine titles (we have grammatical gender so a word like warrior changes depending on if it's feminine or masculine)
BYF mentions a possible Rosetta Stone being somewhere in the pale heart, something in my gut tells me the Dual Destiny is important. About to run it and see what I can uncover.
@@legume3550 so far nothing, but did some research and turns out the fancy name for the bosses closely related to making noises, I believe it is hidden somewhere in there now, turned boss room upside down, might be somewhere else.
One thing about the subjugators is that in my language, the word it self and accessory words related to them are female versions of it. Food for thought.
They probably just did a similar thing for what they did with some Halo enemies. English words backwards, or split up and recombined. Learn your bungie history kiddos.
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This is interesting. I had attempted to decipher the syllables myself before, as there actually is a YT video I found that isolated all Dread voice lines, from the Weavers, Attendants, Grims, Husks, Omens, and Harbingers.
It’s easy to tell which ones are meant to be melee and grunting, but many more are sentences that haven’t been deciphered yet.
As an added bonus, it seems Dread units say different things independent of one another, i.e Subjugators and Tormentors say different things and don’t share any similar voice lines.
One example of Tormentor voice lines was shared in one of TFS ViDocs: “Khos’yen’e’ghet” and “vha’tokhu’vakhat”
Shinji’crank’that’souldja’boy
I was thinking this lol
All i hear is kok
God and Gendoh Bless you brother.
Hope this leads to some understanding of the language. I'm hoping some of what the dread say is going to be lore relevant.
Unfortunately, we do not have a reference. Any unknown languages need something similar to a Rosetta Stone, but we've got nothing right now
@@sehyunjun251 so, are we gonna have to wait for a lore tab or something that basically has the Dread language (which I’m calling Dreadic) written on it? Cause I pray that Bungie is actually gonna want us to decipher it like we did with the Eliksni language,
@sehyunjun251 I have hoping to find some overlapping words in the process of recording them, but although several entire voicelines are shared, I have yet to find separate words that are shared between voicelines.
@@3.14Naar among others, "kok" and "go" repeat through some of these voicelines
@@sehyunjun251 we have some overlap based on context from multiple dread sources. Not as perfect, but by using overlapping phrases/syllables with those, we might have enough context to be able to start forming a rudimentary understanding.
It would be WAY easier though if we had a single translated sentence.
"Krid" sounds like "Die" for some reason. It sounds like something a draugr from Skyrim would say.
I thought the exact same thing
Reminds me of Grineer language from Warframe. Krid is definitely Kill or Die
And the death line of the omen could be "witness forgive me"
Or war KRIEG
I always hear KRIEG as well
Bungie said they made a fully translatable language, so I imagine (hope) that they will give us some kind of cipher to do so. Maybe at the very least, we'll get a single sentence translated in a lore tab to get us started.
No way they made a whole language destiny players boutta start speaking in code
@@scoobsshrooms109 raid callouts in Dreadian only
@@scoobsshrooms109they claim the dread speak a language that’s decodable. But currently it’s impossible seemingly to do it
Just playing the game and hearing them, I honestly thought Bungie was full of crap, but listening to them in a row with subtitles, I can for sure see the patterns of a language now. I'm not sure if it is a full language, but there is for sure a structure, specific rules, and repeated words/syllables.
@@Fatikis42 listening to it “KRID” seems to mean something like die as it’s shouted as attacking. That or something like SERVE
I hope the language gets translated soon and that the entire time the Dread were just hitting us with yo momma jokes ❤
I hope they're just calling us slurs that have been made specifically for guardians
Oh wow. I questioned whether it was a real language as Bungie claimed, but seeing the transcriptions with the language, I can see obvious patterns and overlaps now.
Wonder if we can draw some context at some of their word usage to get a better reference to the meanings of a few words as a baseline.
Wow they really sound like the grineer from warframe
Guardian scoom!
GET KLEM!!!
Can we get a Tormentor armor set for Titans.
A brood weaver set for Hunters.
And The Witness set for warlocks?
Please bungie.
Warlocks are literally the broodweavers on strand though
@@radarhead82 I thought so. I only said Witness cosplay for warlock because I swear I saw a warlock with like 8 arms.
@@RUGER5264 think that's the Ron chest for warlock gives them 4 arms total
There’s a warlock helmet that looks exactly like the witnesses face, it realized in forsaken
I can’t remember the name
@@foliagedcarcass are you talking about the Eimin-Tin Ritual Mask?
Got sent here from Byf. Love this! Can’t wait to see more!!
I think we should really start looking at what the dev said when he said we could decipher it.
"Kos yen eget"
"Va Toko vagat"
I believe there is a reason he used these lines but why?
“Get into the robot, Shinji.”
Love this! I immediately put on my thinking cap and started digging lol keep it up hopefully we can find something!
This is really cool, amazing work!
Great video!! Me being a native Spanish speaker, the first time I heard "Id' ga' ko' ta" I'd swear I heard "hpta" which is an abbreviation for a Spanish slang. I'm still 100% sure the Dread would call us hpta.
Is there any “victory” dialogue for when you die to an Omen? I know every other species does a taunt / growl once they kill you if there are no targets around.
I think they just laugh from what I can remember.
One of them says something along the lines of "shay'shay" which as far as i can figure, is them saying something like "pity, pity (my opponent died)"
Dude that’s insane, great work!
This is incredible
Not saying anyone should pester a VA abt it, but i wonder if even the voice actors know what the lines mean before recording them
Can't wait to translat what they are saying
From Byf! Keep up the good work!
Imagine it's a 'Cats on Mars' situation where the person saying the lines had no idea what they're actually saying
It’s not
Bungie has made up several languages for there enemy factions: in halo the covenant speak can be translated and same with the fallen in destiny
@@foliagedcarcass I know it's an actual language you can learn, but what I was wondering was whether the voice actors understood the language as they spoke it
@@errorphase oh maybe but I doubt it cause aren’t the dread a last minute inclusion in TFS?
@@foliagedcarcassthe dread language maybe is a last minute idea but the dread them selves have been an idea for a long time with the grim technically being a idea since warmind, they just didn’t have them as put together till the release of final shape
@@coolliam7694 oh awsome thanks for that info
Wonder if rhulk or nezerec could speak dread. Probably not but I like to think it shares some similarities to the language the lubrean civilization (rhulk’s people) spoke. In my head canon it’s a language that’s a bastardized amalgamation of the different languages the species the dread are based on spoke.
Seems like a nice compilation! I wonder how many unique voicelines each has.
Is the water mark symbol on the overthrow UI custom or a existing dread symbol?
It is a recreation of the Omen's (stasis boss) face markings.
0:51 The tormentors have the exact same voiceline!
if all of them say it my guess is that its some sort of dogmatic phrase a la : "for the witness" or "hail the knife" or some thing like that.
"Its edging time!"@EgoApocalypse_
Reminds me a bit of R'lyeh from the Lovecraft Mythos
bro you got a mention from Byf! Kickass guradian!
"swiggity swooty"
Here's what I, an amateur linguist and conlanger, could infer from this alone:
The syllable structure is most likely CCVC (C=Consonant, V=Vowel).
Potential consonant inventory:
*Nasals: /m n (ŋ)/
*Plosives: /p b t d k g/
*Fricatives: /v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ (x~χ) h/
*Affricates: /dz dʒ/
*Approximants: /l r~ɾ j w/
Potential vowel inventory, including gemination:
/ɑ ɑː ɛ ɛː i iː o oː u uː/
Overall I'd say it sounds pretty cool, and I'd love to hear more!
bungie devs said it would be possible to understand some of their dialogue, has someone been able to like translate them or something? im curious since the expansion dropped
im excited to know what they are actually saying in the future
Shinji!!
I’m pretty sure the omen has a deeper voice than the harbinger, might be hearing things tho
I keep expecting a "clem grakata" or "tennoos scoom!"
I’m gonna instantly forget all of this and go back to thinking they’re speaking DoodleBob
Reminds me of The Grineer's language from Warframe.
Sometimes I swear they're saying "Ekum Bokum"
I think based on the spacing of the sounds, we can infer that each individual noise is a word.
So it’s possible the dread don’t use an alphabet.
good job! Do you have to adjust the mix after? or can you obtain these by simply turning FX off in game settings?
SESSIONS: STAR GUARDIAN TALIYAH!!!!!!?
Is it me or all the enemies have updated effects like the dread with voices and breathing
Lots of "K" sounds in this language, that's for sure!
2:23 ikam bokam!
What about when they say "gashik tah'so"
As far as I'm concerned it's them talking shit. Which to be fair wouldn't surprise me if it was true. I've decipher some of the Eliksni language and sometimes my friends have to wrangle me cuz I hear one of the captains run his mouth and you just see my big titan ass veer off course to go clobber him for opening his trap. The AI does talk shit like in halo you just have to learn the language. I'm hoping Bungie does the same with the Dread Language. I'm not a linguist by any measure but there are times when these things speak that by their tone and how they are saying some of what they say feels like they are legit calling me out for being a "puny human in a tin suit" and I will actively hunt these assholes when i hear them.
I remember someone translated the D1 stuff. The fallen talked a lot of shit within nova bomb range.
Hopefully someone will crack it
The Subjugators sound feminine don’t they? Not to mention they have a more noble feminine pose. Yes Rhulk had one too but his was more of an arrogant nature. These feel more like female warriors who still retain their noble appearance. That’s just me though. Either way, can’t deny that they are awesome
Not sure if this is the case in all translations but in polish all of them have feminine titles (we have grammatical gender so a word like warrior changes depending on if it's feminine or masculine)
Blue most likely is female and green male.
The Omen (Stasis subjugator) is female and the harbinger (strand subjugator) is male
I swear I've heard these guys tell me to eat shit at some point
BYF mentions a possible Rosetta Stone being somewhere in the pale heart, something in my gut tells me the Dual Destiny is important. About to run it and see what I can uncover.
Any update?
@@legume3550 so far nothing, but did some research and turns out the fancy name for the bosses closely related to making noises, I believe it is hidden somewhere in there now, turned boss room upside down, might be somewhere else.
Interesting
COMMENTS FOR THE ALGORITHM-GOD!!! LIKES FOR THE something-THRONE!!!! (Im not clever enough to come up with a good alternative)
One thing about the subjugators is that in my language, the word it self and accessory words related to them are female versions of it. Food for thought.
How tf do we decipher this
I hope it ends up being something stupid and unserious
Do tormentors also have the same language or are they different
It seems they use some of the same dialect. Almost like they are pronouns possibly.....
One word is "kos"
@@SeizeHerSalad PRONOUNS???!!!!! THE DREAD IS WOKE LIBERALS!!!!!!
This should obviously be seen as satire
0:46 I know this one
"Hows your sister?"
Soja means gaurdian
what abt tormentors? they’ll be easy to do i think
The witness mumbled a different language as well before you fight him. Wonder if that’s the same language.
In the cutscene with Zavala he said something like “si chum ba”
What does it all mean Basil?
klingon?
They probably just did a similar thing for what they did with some Halo enemies. English words backwards, or split up and recombined.
Learn your bungie history kiddos.
KURWA
Is this Sanskrit?
are they female herd someone say that they are
Do we know what Krid means?
based on the voice lines it means death of to die. krid meaning die
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