Seymour Duncan/Basslines STC-2C-BO Blackouts Bass preamp FULL REVIEW AND SOUND DEMO

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    Okay First let's look at the specs:
    Two band active 9v preamp, but i contacted Seymour Duncan and was told it also supports 18v operation if you want to wire two 9v's in series.
    This is the concentric pot version, meaning both bass and treble controls are stacked on the same pot to save space in your pickguard. It's also available with separate bass and treble pots if that's what you'd prefer. That model is called STC-2S-BO
    Bass: low shelf boost/cut at 60hz, in my testing I found that the slope of the shelf tends to start around 75hz and and peaks at 60hz and below.
    Treble: there is a micro switch installed on the circuit board that allows you to switch between two different high shelf frequencies. With the switch in up position: high shelf boost/cut at 3.5k, and in my testing the slope of that curve starts at 1.5k and peaks at around 4K and above.
    With the Switch in down position: starts around the shelft starts at 4K and slopes up to 6k and above.
    The preamp definitely beefs up the low end, and adds some sparkle to the highs. Now you might be saying to me "dan! You said there are two different selectable high frequency boosts, why didn't you demo the 6k boost setting?" Well thats because a 6k boost really isn't helpful for bass, it just translates to more fretboard noise, not really the tone of the instrument itself. But since I know you'll complain if I don't, here is aquick AB comparison of the 3k vs 6k high boost settings:
    Things that are cool
    Affordable
    It can make cheap pickups come to life
    Bass frequency is right in the sweetspot for my ears
    And I didn't demo this, but I noticed that with the eq flat, when I turned on this preamp, it didn't color the tone at all. That's a really cool thing. Lots of preamps will color your basses tone even with a flat EQ, but this one doesn't, which means the bass and treble that it boosts or cuts will be as close to your instruments original frequencies as possible. I can't even tell you how valuable that is. Especially at this price point.
    Things that suck
    6k treble setting is basically worthless
    But it wouldn't be as worthless if they had made it externally selectable
    I thought Both treble boost settings were a bit harsh when I was running it full blast, but that's fixable by just rolling of the treble a tad
    Lastly, it's hard to hear in my demo, but when you boost the treble you get a mild hiss, so it's kind of a noisy preamp. But at this price point you can't really upset about that.
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  • @rodshop5897
    @rodshop5897 5 лет назад +9

    I liked that you used sunglasses to let us know visually when you were changing up. Great subtle add for your video. Nice job thinking of how to make this even better for your audience.

  • @16GHunter
    @16GHunter 7 лет назад +34

    You've quickly become my favorite guitar/bass channel. Awesome content. You're always sharing the "hard to find" information on guitar/bass modifications.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +16

      +16GHunter thanks! That's exactly my goal for this channel. As well as being entertaining and silly

    • @vincentkoster6291
      @vincentkoster6291 7 лет назад

      16GHunter same here!

  • @markswessinger7814
    @markswessinger7814 6 лет назад +1

    I love how informational your channel is. It is also great to find that you are so focused on the bass. I have just returned to playing after a 30 year hiatus, and am woefully out of touch on what different pickups sound like. Thanks for the tutorials!

  • @ViktorKralovic
    @ViktorKralovic 7 лет назад +15

    Now this is totally informative and enjoyable!
    Wonder why Seymour Duncan and other brands never get a guy like you to present their stuff... so cool ;)

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +10

      +Viktor Kralovic probably because I'm not afraid to tell people the bad as well as the good

  • @vyladence
    @vyladence 4 года назад +1

    neck and bridge active made so much low end, brought me significant joy. thank you.

  • @chrisparker5278
    @chrisparker5278 Год назад

    Great review. I’ve had this preamp in my bass for 10 years and never understood what I had. I installed it with the new pickups so only heard one tone version. I’m glad the preamp does a great job

  • @Blackboarder77
    @Blackboarder77 7 лет назад +1

    Your channel is FIRE! Keep up with the great content! You're really turning me on to a lot of stuff I never knew to look at, and it's stuff I always wondered about for these kits, but never had reliable information on.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      awesome! I make vids about stuff I wish I knew about a long time ago haha

  • @Melkor0410
    @Melkor0410 4 года назад +2

    Its quite cool that initially he made this 3 pickup bass (passive) to be versatile but with the preamp it opened to more possibilities. The preamp made the musicman pickup sound exactly like a musicman stingray that bite in the pickup.

  • @MrWjgonder
    @MrWjgonder 6 лет назад +1

    Just came across your channel today and I have to say you do excellent work on both your gun builds and the guitars Dan.

  • @xxmushroomsteakx6874
    @xxmushroomsteakx6874 7 лет назад +18

    Hot damn those slap tones are amazing...

  • @wesleyzimmerman94
    @wesleyzimmerman94 6 лет назад +10

    I think the MM passive with your fingers sounds really good by itself.

  • @luishomero19
    @luishomero19 5 лет назад

    Hi Dan, first of all congratulate you and your channel, and tell you that I am a "do it yourself" learning from your channel, and recently upgraded my Ibanez 205sm (5 strings), with pair of humbuckers Bartolini classic Bass series, M4 soapbar dual coil with and active Seymour Duncan STC-3P 3 band time for pasive pickups, my brigde pickup still for connection (will do it tomorrow when it is supposed to arrive), the neck pickup sounds awesome, let's see how improve one's the bridge's takes place....

  • @anthonyf4439
    @anthonyf4439 6 лет назад

    You outdid yourself on that Bass. Best cheap kit build I've seen on youtube.

  • @robmic3768
    @robmic3768 7 лет назад +1

    Great content, cool video, looking forward to the next! :)
    Keep it on!

  • @budaroddy
    @budaroddy 7 лет назад +2

    Awesome stuff bro keep It going

  • @luishomero19
    @luishomero19 5 лет назад

    Finally, my bass all setup, with a STC 3P Seymour Duncan preamp with 3 bands, and a pair of BARTOLINI humbuckers M45, and it turned to life.... It is absolutely Awesome....

  • @markchip1
    @markchip1 6 лет назад +2

    Impressive! A highly effective and extremely cost effective mod with profound improvements to the playability. I can't think of a better way to make your bass sound better for such a low cost!

  • @mrdrastic
    @mrdrastic 6 лет назад

    You’re awesome! Love your videos! All around excellent presentation! Top knotch stuff!

  • @rainbowslushy223
    @rainbowslushy223 4 года назад +1

    I love when he demos sounds he actually demos all the sounds

  • @lucagarciaferrari
    @lucagarciaferrari 7 лет назад +31

    I like that you actually took a more serious tone with your videos.
    Are you actually gonna keep this in your bass? I feel like the active sounded best for all styles with all pickups.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +18

      +Cranmore hopefully not too serious...I hate perfectly serious "professional" videos. Boring. Anyway, I will be installing this one in that bass for sure. I do think it improved the tone, and more importantly, because of the concentric pot, it saves space on the pickguard, which is more important for this bass because of the 3 volume pots.

    • @crimadellaphone9374
      @crimadellaphone9374 2 года назад +1

      @@GunsandGuitars Yes, I love concentric pots, my Strat is about to be a super guitar, doing testing currentl(last two weekends. Got successful independent volumes for all 3 mini humbuckers (no interactions), last problem on the last portion, finally got the high cut and low cut tone knobs great by wiring them in reverse to change the audio taper to strong at first and less resistance at end with additional 20k resistor to ground, now both of them have usable tone change all the way rather than the last portion of the pot(80% to 10% with huge drop off). The last problem is the volume lowers as either tone knob turns down. 3 concentric knobs and 8 mini toggle switches, independent knobs for volume, bass cut and trebble cut, master volume if can't get volume decrease for tones resolved/variable partial coil split if I do get the tone/volume issue resolved. The rest is easy, series/parallel switch for each single pickup(3) then coil split toggle for neck and 1 for bridge. 1 toggle for cap change for bass cut and 1 toggle for for cap change for high cut, going to get a new pickguard and remove 5-way switch(I don't play in front of people, I need just the ability to wildly shape my tone with abundance of options). The perfect way for me to test all of this is I mounted it all to a shoe box coated with packaging tape for a little extra stability, extended pickup wires, body ground(connects to Jack internally) and hot jack about 6 inches outside of knob holes, then ran into shoe box where the circuit is. Has the hum on and off of course but allows me to test a lot of things without constantly undoing strings and taking Pickguard off. When I completed it, being so much wire length and so much wire in circuitry (soldered short wires to components and wire nuts to wire them into circuit) that I feared the guitar just wouldn't have any sound, thought it was the case when I plugged I. And heard no sound, almost gave up but realized the power button I installed wasn't pushed in(in is on, up is off). Power button disconnects jack hot and ground so I can work on circuit without unplugging. It's already great sounding and very shapable tone, the tone/volume drop issue is the only issue left then instalation comes, even if I have to route more space with Dremel tool.

  • @longdongbongchong
    @longdongbongchong 5 лет назад

    great review!

  • @PavelNNJ
    @PavelNNJ 7 лет назад +1

    It's cool how it makes so much difference for the bridge pickup.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      +Pavel Novozhilov yeah the preamp plays a big part in the standard music man tone

  • @patrickhale424
    @patrickhale424 7 лет назад +2

    Excellent video!!

  • @TURBOCAST
    @TURBOCAST 7 лет назад +1

    Love it!!!!

  • @jimstiles5278
    @jimstiles5278 2 года назад

    Really interesting useful review. The one negative was that it left me wondering what the other solo pickups sound like with the A/B choice for the preamp (especially the P bass pickup). Good stuff!

  • @imman0328
    @imman0328 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Dan! I'm building this exact bass because of you. I wanted to know what's the difference of running this 9v and running it at 18v. Thanks brother.

  • @roon.walnut5941
    @roon.walnut5941 6 лет назад

    Man, that thing makes all the difference with the slap!

  • @coyperez1249
    @coyperez1249 7 лет назад

    As always sir, great content. Nice shout out to your aunt too lol.

  • @wyvern4588
    @wyvern4588 5 лет назад +1

    Got one to put into a Warwick RB Streamer standard, bass sounds awesome, but it lacks high end/overall focus, just going to attach battery via Velcro inside the cavity.
    And yeah, I have two basses with 3 band EQ- never needed to boost treble as all you hear his buzz and finger noise.

  • @piercewilkins4898
    @piercewilkins4898 Год назад

    hello, I am wanting to install this in my PJ bass build and have watched your guide on how to install a bypass switch for active preamps and I was wondering if that mod would also work with this specific preamp? I am also wanting to install a 3 way toggle as my pickup selector. so the signal path would probably be pickups into volume knob into preamp knob then into bypass mini toggle switch and lastly 3 way toggle out into the jack.

  • @imbritt4645
    @imbritt4645 5 лет назад +1

    Update: I passed out after like.. an hour so I’m continuing my quest this morning. Thanks for the responses btw!! You’re awesome man!

  • @1thess523
    @1thess523 6 лет назад

    So this would be good for my Sterling sub Bass, it's got the music man pick up but it's lacking and I like the lows that gave your music man pick up. Is it pretty easy to install I can install tone pots and rewire pickups so that's not a problem I've just never done a preamp, also my sub bass is already active

  • @mccalltrader
    @mccalltrader 6 лет назад

    Bro...what do you think about putting the preamp in a cheap startocaster? Would the results be that stunning and share the same things that are cool about adding it to the bass?

  • @pedrt69824
    @pedrt69824 6 лет назад

    I just got a Squier Deluxe Active Dimension bass but highs n mids sound gross lol! I love the build of the bass and might keep it. Would replacing the preamp improve the sound or would I have to replace the pickups also? Ive seen no replacement pickups for the Squier Deluxe Dimension bass

  • @martinheath5947
    @martinheath5947 6 лет назад

    Awesome! Now how about a pan/blend pot for the bridge and neck pickups to combine them either way around the middle pickup and with each other?

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      +Martin Heath that’s an interesting idea I’ll look into this

  • @preciseaudioblog
    @preciseaudioblog Год назад

    Hi, I installed a preamp on my Squier bass and having a lot of noise. What could it be? Thank you.

  • @michaelb.42112
    @michaelb.42112 3 года назад

    How did you use a 1/4" jack to bypass installing the preamp ? I don't understand. Thanks Dan.

  • @fallout9655
    @fallout9655 7 лет назад +1

    Sound you push of that bass is gettin better and better!) If i were u, i wouldnt use it with rick or split pup, they are ok by themselves, no need in active curcuit for them. Great vids, thx!

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      +Роман Соколов I agree, the ric and p bass tones are passive by nature, where the mm tone relies on a preamp. But when using the pickups for blending new combinations of tones, I say the preamp is still useful. Either way, I'll install that bypass switch in the bass as well to keep the flexibility

  • @SeanRussell-KE2CBC
    @SeanRussell-KE2CBC 7 лет назад +1

    Great video. the info on the high-end range boost is helpful. Never gave that much thought with active preamp. What do you think about full range treble mid and bass preamp?

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      +Acronis it really depends on the mid frequency, there are some that use good frequencies, and some that use bad frequencies for the mid. Most that I've played I end up leaving the mid alone because it doesn't seem to improve tone either boosting or cutting. I have heard Nordstrand preamps that have switchable mid frequencies that sound pretty killer though. Also, there are a couple preamps that have a parametric mid (meaning you can sweep back and forth to hone in on whatever frequency you wish) and I'd really like to give those a shot. I plan to purchase one for review in the future.

    • @nathantompsett6985
      @nathantompsett6985 6 лет назад

      Guns and Guitars status graphite makes those iirc... quite expensive though

  • @rodriprat
    @rodriprat 3 года назад

    In terms of sound, is the same using a preamp pedal? I know that the onboard option is more easy to have the controls in the bass, but the pedal you can use it with all the basses you have and you can change it. The question is, in terms of sound is the same?

  • @wxb200
    @wxb200 Год назад +1

    Aunt Lee is AWESOME!

  • @treelambs5392
    @treelambs5392 6 лет назад +1

    Even on my iPhone speakers I can hear the difference, damn

  • @jasonstrickland5251
    @jasonstrickland5251 7 лет назад +1

    When is the wiring video coming? I have the 2pot blackouts. I want to replace the standard pot with a push pull and use that to switch between active and passive. Can you white board that in the next vid so we can screen shot it??

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      +Jason Strickland this video is coming. Sorry I've been working on building my new website and workshop. Workshop is almost done so I should be cranking out more build vids soon! I'll put in a section on the active passive switch just for you!

  • @professorshermanklump7553
    @professorshermanklump7553 7 лет назад +1

    Dan...Great video, The kids see my basses and ask how much they cost so i pull out my alembic 16k and they say wow thats nice but i also bring out my plank bass made of 2 2x4's of maple and 4 strings and plug in it blow there minds how 2x4's can sound so good. We talk about what makes the bass sound and how to do it for less. Your video proves to them that i am telling the truth.Thank you so much....keep up the good work.....psk

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      +Professor Sherman Klump thanks for your encouragement!

  • @bassforlife1207
    @bassforlife1207 6 лет назад

    great video man !!! , does it work with active or passive pickups ? or both ??

  • @pedrolinares5619
    @pedrolinares5619 6 лет назад

    It is possible to wire a pj bass with 2 volume pots, this eq and no tone? I have a Samick Artist Series bass with a tone/active booster push pull pot that i want to change cause' the passive mode doesn't works :( I can play only with the push pull pot up. Awesome videos Dan+

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      Yes you can wire your bass that way. Just follow a jazz bass wiring diagram and replace the tone pot with this preamp.

  • @samuellarkin7998
    @samuellarkin7998 7 лет назад +1

    You should do a video on how to wire a guitar for different pickup configurations

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      +Samuel Larkin I've started a video series on wiring hacks, not sure about basic guitar wiring, there is already a lot of info out there on the basics

  • @billyhendry8369
    @billyhendry8369 7 лет назад +2

    Hi do you think you could show us how you wired in that bypass switch thanks

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      Sure can, when I do the instal video I'll add a part about the bypass switch. Stay tuned!

  • @isiahtwardowski8534
    @isiahtwardowski8534 4 года назад

    How do you wire a humbucker pick up?

  • @josegalindo1262
    @josegalindo1262 4 года назад

    I'd like to see a comparison of all bass circuit preamps including the big brands...

  • @herbross6612
    @herbross6612 7 лет назад +1

    DAN i have a Question for you :O i'm thinking on doing the DIY project but i feel like using 2 MM style pickups, in middle and bridg position, you think its going to work ? i mean... using the exact same model of pickup for mid and bridge position, will i have a diference in sound between the 2 pickups? or should just install the stock pickup and the musicman, or only the musicman style pickup? i know nothing about electronics inside bass guitars that's y i'm asking you

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      +Ag Herbert dude, two musicman pickups would sound awesome! Check out the Warwick double buck ($$). Having two of the same pickup works fine because the tone changes based on its location (neck or bridge). I say go for it, and send me a pic on Facebook when it's done!

    • @herbross6612
      @herbross6612 7 лет назад

      Of course i will mate, you know the dimensions on the MM pickup (musiclily) to install it where the stock pickups are suposed to be? i hope its arround the same size and i dont need a new cover :s

  • @bigbruhenergygobrr
    @bigbruhenergygobrr 4 года назад

    is there any way to take out that mild hiss though?

  • @leroyatleroys
    @leroyatleroys 5 лет назад

    To be honest, I actually really like things to be high-frequency, glassy, rattly, etc. I enjoy the metallic sound. But I completely understand what you mean by getting the notes to cut through. I just ordered it and I do intend to keep it on 3.5. But I actually liked the 6k for different reasons besides playing with a band or recording. Still thanks, your vids have helped me A LOT on my bass. It is almost finished.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  5 лет назад +1

      That’s awesome man! Congrats on the new bass!

  • @calyodelphi124
    @calyodelphi124 6 лет назад

    I'm sure Dan already knows all of this, but for those who go perusing through the comments I've got a bit more technical info to add about what he said about the frequencies the amp boosts and where the shelf "begins":
    What's actually going on is the amplifier has a pair of filters: one low-pass filter for bass frequencies and one high-pass filter for... well... high frequencies. However, these filters don't just flatly block frequencies that are above/below their "cutoff" point, respectively. Instead, they smoothly "roll off" at the critical frequency into a more or less linear slope of attenuation. That critical frequency (also called the "cutoff" frequency) is where the filter introduces a -3dB attenuation, which just means that the perceived volume is cut in half. Past that cutoff frequency, the perceived volume of frequencies in the stopband is so low that they basically just cease to exist as far as anything past the filter is concerned.
    For a high-pass filter, anything above that cutoff frequency is neither amplified nor attenuated. It is simply passed. Whereas anything below the cutoff frequency--the stopband--is attenuated at a rate of decibels per "decade" (that is, per every x10 Hz; so from 100Hz to 1000Hz to 10,000Hz, etc.) depending upon the design of the filter. Hence, high-pass filter. Linky link to a not very good visual representation off what Dan and I have both described: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/75_Hz_HPF_on_Smaart.jpg
    For a low-pass filter, the opposite is true. Anything BELOW the cutoff frequency is neither amplified nor attenuated. It is simply passed. Whereas anything ABOVE the cutoff frequency is attenuated at a rate of dB/decade also dependent upon the design of the filter. Hence, low-pass. Linky link to a useful graphic on the wikipedia article about 'em to show what I'm describing: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Butterworth_response.svg/1280px-Butterworth_response.svg.png
    There's also two more types of filters that combine the properties of high-pass and low-pass filters, which are especially handy when designing equalizers (something that I'm certain Dan DEFINITELY knows about): band-pass and band-stop filters. Band-pass filters, as their name implies, pass a narrow band of frequencies. Anything outside of this band is attenuated and essentially blocked by the filter. And band-stop filters do the complement: they block a narrow band of frequencies. Band-pass and band-stop filters mix and match low-pass and high-pass filters together, and as such have *two* cutoff frequencies that define the end points of the band. Here's a visual aid that shows a band-pass filter, but if you invert it so that it dips at each cutoff frequency around the stopped frequency in the center, you'll have a band-stop filter: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Bandwidth_2.svg/1280px-Bandwidth_2.svg.png
    At some point I should probably try my hand at designing some basic filters and figure out how to pass a range of frequencies through them so I can demonstrate their properties, and then make a video about it to put up on my own channel...

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      +Calyo Delphi wow great info here! I understand how it works but building circuits of my own that do this is way out of my pay grade...for now. I'm constantly reading up on low voltage electronics, I'm fascinated by the stuff. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to build in a crossover between the neck and bridge pickup of a guitar or bass. I think it'd be cool to take low frequencies from the neck and mid-high frequencies from the bridge without any phase cancelation.

    • @calyodelphi124
      @calyodelphi124 6 лет назад

      Hmm, that one's actually a bit beyond what I know, personally. Would be interesting to find out how that can work! If you find out before I do, I look forward to seeing a video about it. You're already inspiring me to want to build my own custom bass for a first guitar, and I don't even know how to play bass yet! ;)
      Most of what I know is from a bit of research I did for a few months straight a couple years back when I wanted to try to design and build my own hi-fi audio receiver from scratch, with a multi-input mixer/switch, EQ, and power amp with line-level outputs for headphones and the like. To build a proper EQ, you need bandpass filters so that you can adjust each frequency band all on its own (mostly) independently from the others.
      High pass and low pass filters also tend to go into amplifier design as well, largely to act as stops for extremely high frequency and low frequency noise, though depending on your selection of operational amplifier chips they may already have good high-frequency noise rejection built right in. (That HF noise is the staticky hiss you'll hear off a microphone's output if you use pure software boost on that raw signal.) Learning that one myself for real by building a super basic preamp for my condenser mic using just jellybean parts available for cents apiece; I can only imagine how much better higher-priced application-specific op amps will sound!

  • @Alek_Archer
    @Alek_Archer 2 года назад

    What about their blackouts system for electric guitars?

  • @MrReplica77
    @MrReplica77 5 лет назад +2

    Question about this preamp. I ordered the separate one, & being there’s no volume pot. Now is it ok to use my old volume knob that’s passive? It’s still 250k.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  5 лет назад

      Yes just put the volume pot before the preamp and you’re fine

    • @MrReplica77
      @MrReplica77 5 лет назад

      Guns and Guitars
      Even though the volume pot is passive? Before the pre amp meaning volume pot, and then the two preamp knobs? Meaning the order that they go?

  • @gorgegarcia4471
    @gorgegarcia4471 6 лет назад

    where did you get the kit to start building your bass I would love to try it

  • @eljapel
    @eljapel 6 лет назад

    wow, how do you know all about that frequencies on bass guitar? I wanna know that stuff! any book to read? I only have passive basses buy your vid made me curious about this kind of stuff

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      I don’t know of any particular book, but I learned a lot about it from doing home recordings and playing with the software. I also took some recording classes in college. Most of what I learned was from hands on experience, and asking questions to every audio engineer I met along the way, as well as reading lots of blogs and forums. The info is out there, just google it!

  • @rosemberghmendoza683
    @rosemberghmendoza683 6 лет назад

    Nice demo:-D. Do you think it would work with a lame epiphone EB O bass?

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      +rosembergh mendoza it would definitely work, as in function, whether or not it would improve your tone I have no idea. Depends on what you’re going for. EB-0 basses are really muddy to begin with.

    • @rosemberghmendoza683
      @rosemberghmendoza683 6 лет назад

      Guns and Guitars thanks man, do you know any other way to improve a cheap bass like that?. Yo

  • @longdongbongchong
    @longdongbongchong 5 лет назад

    I wonder why they made the Treble frequency so high where it doesn't do much for the bass tone??

  • @bradmcclure4945
    @bradmcclure4945 4 года назад

    links please fo parts used

  • @mvyper
    @mvyper Год назад

    The ideal would be to have a switch that lets you choose between passive, active 2 batteries in parallel (9 volts double life) or active 2 batteries in series (18 volts). That would be great.

  • @haileyclark256
    @haileyclark256 7 лет назад +4

    I'm thinking of getting my first electric guitar.... I have a cheapo epiphone acoustic and a martin dreadnought and play mostly country music with the occasional everything else. I should probably add in that I'm poor, so off brand works for me :) What would you suggest? I trust you... you know your stuff dude.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +2

      +Hailey Clark I think if you're gonna buy a complete guitar, squiers are a good place to start. Especially anything with "vintage modified" in the title is a quality instrument for a cheap price. If you want to build one, check out my video on how to build a high end guitar out of a cheap eBay kit. You'll get a great instrument for even less if you go that route.

    • @haileyclark256
      @haileyclark256 7 лет назад

      Awesome! Thanks so much! That guitar was amazing that you built :)

    • @sambeatty2312
      @sambeatty2312 6 лет назад

      I bought a used squire, and it is seriously better than any knock off

  • @catracho1st
    @catracho1st 4 года назад

    yeeeee

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 6 лет назад

    Wow, this kit really brought that bass sound alive. The shitty thing is that while over in the USA this kit costs an affordable $60 while here in the UK it costs £100 which is the same as $131.

  • @networkunplugged
    @networkunplugged 7 лет назад +1

    promising product

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      +Network Unplugged yeah pretty good for $59 right?

  • @hi_im_buggy
    @hi_im_buggy 6 лет назад

    You played the 'I Want You Back' bassline slightly wrong, unless you wanted to play it differently. Great vid as usual btw.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад +1

      +Pratyaksh Gautam yeah I changed it slightly. Don't want to deal copyright (not that I'd really have to, just covering myself just in case)

  • @kirkbolas4985
    @kirkbolas4985 6 лет назад

    Why would Duncan have a selection at 6 kHz? I’m not an Audio Engineer...just a guitarist and bassist with almost 4 decades making music and I can’t envision any reason to have a set it and forget it frequency that high for bass either. Dan, any ideas as to what team Duncan had in mind for that 6 kHz setting?

  • @JamesGaskins1956
    @JamesGaskins1956 7 лет назад +1

    I love the 6kh sound 🔊 over the 3kh sound 🔊

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +5

      I can see it being useful for slap, but for finger and picking it sounded like cheese in my opinion

    • @JamesGaskins1956
      @JamesGaskins1956 7 лет назад

      Guns and Guitars I hear you, and you are hearing it directly from your gear. Coming through my sound bar and head phones 📱 that 6KH tone would fit my playing style perfectly.
      By the way what are you using for the demo? The external selectable switch is a must for the preamp!! Excellent suggestion.

  • @rubetz528
    @rubetz528 7 лет назад +1

    My guess would be you're going to make a two-battery compartment with some kind of DPDT; this would make the battery consumption more or less even between the two.
    By the way, I'm really curious if you will make something with the concentric knob so as to fit the instrument's aesthetic :)

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      you are correct about the compartment, it'll be large enough to fit two batteries. I'm going to use a switch though, no need to switch between 9v and 18v on the fly, but I'll be making it easy to run on one 9v in the case that you only have 1 good battery to use

    • @rubetz528
      @rubetz528 7 лет назад +2

      By the way, Dan, have you considered desoldering the treble band switch and wiring it to an external one?
      The 6k setting was amazing with slapping to my ear.

  • @Zantrop64
    @Zantrop64 6 лет назад

    Maybe you can still replace the frequency switch with a bit of soldering

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      +Zantrop64 I’m sure someone could, it looks like a micro dpdt switch. But that circuit board is tiny! I was afraid to attempt it.

  • @WideVisionMetalFab
    @WideVisionMetalFab 7 лет назад +10

    You're mom says you're "Officially awesome since you have more than 10,000 subs."

  • @likeanuuk6612
    @likeanuuk6612 7 лет назад +3

    i must be stupid because i really dont understand how you connected your pass signal to the preamp in this demo!

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +2

      +HoshiHearts RetroGaming haha you're not stupid. Instead of wiring the preamp to the hot and ground connections of my pickups, I wired it to the hot and ground of an instrument cable. Then plugged that instrument cable into my bass. Then plugged a different instrument cable into the output of the preamp into my recording interface. Basically I used it more like a pedal than an onboard preamp

  • @johng2880
    @johng2880 5 лет назад

    About to put one of these pre-amps into an old Ibanez CT bass I ran across. Great playing bass, but noisy pre-amp.

  • @patricklosiniecki8503
    @patricklosiniecki8503 6 лет назад

    To be honest, for metal, tgat 6k boost would be perfect. It's like a mid scoop or when you double track with a sub track and high track. It's kind of cool. With a little grit, that'd be a sick metal tone.

  • @theticketkiller
    @theticketkiller 7 лет назад +4

    Think I could/should stuff one of these in my Rickenbacker?

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +5

      +Catt it would certainly fit, and probably ad some low end. Though some rickenbacker purist would think you're insane, I think you should experiment!

    • @theticketkiller
      @theticketkiller 7 лет назад +1

      My 'Ric' is certainly not for the purists, anyways.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      in that case, I'd love to see it! send me a pic on Facebook

  • @loops_8837
    @loops_8837 7 лет назад +2

    Wholy shit I wasn't expecting that much of a difference. Could you do the same thing but with a way cheaper preamp (if there even is one). Keep out the good shit, quality content

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      +Lups I'm gonna do some reviews with cheaper ones in the future for sure

    • @loops_8837
      @loops_8837 7 лет назад +1

      Guns and Guitars looking forward to that

    • @vincentkoster6291
      @vincentkoster6291 7 лет назад +1

      Guns and Guitars whoop whoop! Go AliExpress and eBay!

  • @bigvelvetdog
    @bigvelvetdog 7 лет назад +1

    How about some pro's and con's between onboard preamp vs pedal preamp on the floor

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +7

      +Christopher Woods honestly they are the exact same. In fact, I'm thinking of doing a video on how to install an onboard preamp in a pedal so you can use one preamp for all your basses. What do you think?

    • @bigvelvetdog
      @bigvelvetdog 7 лет назад +1

      What I am getting at is that isn't something like an MXR 10 band EQ pedal the ultimate?... What do so many basses have onboard eq when most people just set it and forget it. why deal with batteries and all that in the bass when you could have more versatility in a stomp box? But yeah, I enjoy your channel so keep em coming.

    • @joshstarkey8883
      @joshstarkey8883 6 лет назад

      I've been wondering the same thing

  • @schwarz.leandro
    @schwarz.leandro 7 лет назад +2

    I don't know if the expression is right, but the 6K seems 'nasal'... Is that make any sense?

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      +Leandro Ruben Schwarz Júnior I agree, nasal is a good word. I can see it being useful in a slap solo setting, that's about it, and even then I'd probably still prefer the 3.5k setting

  • @motan8218
    @motan8218 7 лет назад +1

    Could we get a wiring diagram for this?

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад

      +Motan exactly what wiring diagram are you wanting? Message me on Facebook and I'll sketch one up for you

  • @Floor466
    @Floor466 6 лет назад

    Plz do a tutorial on how to install a preamp that would be much appreciated!

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад +2

      +BananaBenBently BoosterBoxyBipkin I just got done filming it, just gotta film the talking and edit it together.

  • @blammonthedrums8071
    @blammonthedrums8071 6 лет назад

    You mentioned the preamp can be noisy. I usually run an overdrive on my bass. Can I assume this would amplifiy that noise and make the preamp less desirable?

    • @blammonthedrums8071
      @blammonthedrums8071 6 лет назад

      Totally going to do an MM/P mod to a squire in the future. Thanks for the encouragement. Your channel is rad. Love the energy and positive vibes.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      +Brandon Lamm it's only noisy if you crank the highs up all the way, if you don't dime it then it sounds fine

  • @Alembicplyr
    @Alembicplyr 4 года назад

    Why dont you remove the dip switch, replace with wire leads and add a dpdt switch? Hint, hint..... ;)

  • @AngelarmSpartan777
    @AngelarmSpartan777 6 лет назад

    If you really wanted to, you could make that dip switch external. All you would probably need is a SPDT toggle switch, some wire and a soldering iron. :)

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      +AngelarmSpartan777 it looked like a dpdt switch, and I’m sure someone could, but soldering on microchips is above my pay grade I think. I might experiment on one if it was cheap enough, but id be sad if I burnt out that board and ruined the preamp.

  • @markclaudel
    @markclaudel 6 лет назад

    Love all your bass build videos. I wish there were acoustic bass kits available. I’d love to see how to build a mini acoustic bass like the new Taylor GS Mini.
    The GS Mini sounds great when it’s not buzzing. Unfortunately, more often than not, there’s fret buzz. You’re also locked down to the custom strings they designed for it. On top of all that it’s $650-$700. Meh...I’ll pass.
    Binge watching all your bass builds... LOL

  • @jabbarindabenz
    @jabbarindabenz 7 лет назад

    That was nice and I don't even play bass

  • @treelambs5392
    @treelambs5392 6 лет назад

    dude how much for you to make one for me

  • @TomTobin67
    @TomTobin67 6 лет назад +1

    The only thing I would do to that bass (before you sell it) is to put a high or heavy mass bridge on it.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад +1

      +Tom Tobin thanks for the tip! Personally I don’t feel like the price to benefit ratio is really worth it. It doesn’t make as much of a difference as people say. At least that’s my opinion.

    • @TomTobin67
      @TomTobin67 6 лет назад

      I changed mine on my Fender Jazz bass and it sounded exponentially better.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад +1

      +Tom Tobin well I’m gonna test the theory again soon. Got a mod bass kit from the fretwire (it’s a rickenbacker clone) but it comes with a music man style bridge, I bought a hipshot rickenbacker high mass bridge to replace it. We will find out I guess!

    • @TomTobin67
      @TomTobin67 5 лет назад

      @@GunsandGuitars - Aunt Lee rules!

  • @alan10000able
    @alan10000able 7 лет назад +5

    I have the same preamp but I use it in 6k for almost the same reason that you don't use it haha​​... and yes, I tried it in 3.5k but I liked it more in 6k

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  7 лет назад +3

      +alan corcico to each their own! If you like it that's all that matters

    • @joshstarkey8883
      @joshstarkey8883 6 лет назад

      Maybe the 6k gets that Steve Harris clicky attack fret noise?

    • @punman5392
      @punman5392 6 лет назад

      Josh Starkey That’s easier to get by really lowering your sting action and playing with flats

  • @iamgribs
    @iamgribs Год назад

    The preamp makes it much more pingy. It colors the tone but in good way.

  • @crimadellaphone9374
    @crimadellaphone9374 2 года назад

    Well, this is mighty entertaining and silly. I'm wanting to see the same example with a guitar being I don't play nor desire to play a bass.

  • @nikaladz6681
    @nikaladz6681 6 лет назад

    Still waiting for that install tutorial.

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      I'll have it up by tomorrow night! thanks for checking in

  • @shadowbannedagain1737
    @shadowbannedagain1737 5 лет назад

    Reminds me of my little black and yellow di-BASS peddle that was borrowed and NEVER RETURNED....SIGH..THING WAS SOOOO RAD!.

  • @chengliu872
    @chengliu872 4 года назад

    It sounds way better with the pre-amp.

  • @shanefoster2861
    @shanefoster2861 4 года назад

    Wish you would have level matched.

  • @covinhas87
    @covinhas87 6 лет назад

    Man you need to adapt an external switch to that 3.5, 6kHz :D

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад +1

      +Joao Jesus it looks possible, but that micro switch is tiny and so is the circuit board, I think desoldering that thing and wiring up an external switch might be above my pay grade.

  • @pinkmaggit3
    @pinkmaggit3 6 лет назад +3

    The 6k almost sounds a bit warwickish

    • @GunsandGuitars
      @GunsandGuitars  6 лет назад

      yeah I can see what you're saying

    • @dannychane
      @dannychane 5 лет назад

      Or Sandberg like. I love their designs, but I don't like the electronics.
      The 3k boost sounds more like Music Man Stingray, which was exactly what I was looking for!
      Thanks Dan for making this video!

  • @beepboop974
    @beepboop974 6 лет назад

    i preferred the 6k lol

  • @extraearth3392
    @extraearth3392 6 лет назад

    Tabs?

  • @EgilHansen777
    @EgilHansen777 7 лет назад +1

    All 3 pickups passive best for all styles