Ramee makin good ass points. A journal is a hardcover notepad notes on a phone. No phone actually has a password so no book actually has a lock but they assume a phone has a password.
*The notebook is inadmissible because there was no warrant for the book. It's the same as getting pulled over and charged for a gun. They still need a warrant to search your phone that they seize during arrest. Therefore, it's an illegal search and any and all that comes from the illegally searched property can't be charged*
Even if this goes to court, this sets up Ramee for a textbook “Fruit of the poisonous tree” defense. IRL none of it would be admissible in court and the whole case would have to be tossed and restarted through another means of opening the investigation
Ok so the legal rules for phones in the real world is that the police can only force you to open your pass locked phone if they get a warrant for it. However, with face scan locks, there has been legal cases where the police was allowed to use the face scanner to open a subjects phone without the need for a warrant. Moreover phones in the city aren't locked and anybody can steal anothers phone and look into it. Sot it's an interesting legal question if it's ever brought up in court. Because from RL precedence which they often use in the city, the police can legally search your phone.
the way i see notebooks is that if they can just read them automatically then people will literally just go back to unreadable gang documents, and no one wants that tbh
when something is subject to seizure and examination that doesnt mean you can in this case read the full book you can open it and examine its contents make sure that its not related directly to the crime ie hiding a weapon or admitting to said crime if it has either of those you can question about it but if not it is not subject to further pursuit but you can question why they had it on them but not the contents of the book just to clear things up if the book has dates witnessings etc you can get a nonguilty verdict like a diary stating "(insert date) had to do X thing today at X place and witnessed X thing" which would do that but then by not informing the police of said happenings you are admitting to allowing said incident to happen but you can also plead that you were scared and that they might have seen you etc
The problem I have with the phone argument is that it seems like we conveniently switch between real life and los Santos. The thing is, phones in Los Santos have no pass codes, so it is just information like the book. Oh yeah btw a subpoena is not the same as a warrant, if there is a subpoena put out on one's phone, they can choose not to give it up. The problem with doing that is you can get contempt and that ruling is at the discretion of the judge, technically you don't have to follow a subpoena, however the consequences can vary and more than likely would end up being really bad. I'd imagine the only reason to not turn in evidence a subpoena was issued on would be if that evidence could get you in hut charges. Either say tho probably not a good idea especially if the judge is crane who actually knows what he is doing.
the slow spinning fan adds so much to the ambience of crane's office lmao, these nopixel devs nailed the environments
gotta love crane. ramee on the new arc is in his prime environment
Ramee makin good ass points. A journal is a hardcover notepad notes on a phone. No phone actually has a password so no book actually has a lock but they assume a phone has a password.
ADHD Ramee just taking over as soon as they stopped talking and started waiting
The Rolex talk actually adds to the lawyer RP lmao
*The notebook is inadmissible because there was no warrant for the book. It's the same as getting pulled over and charged for a gun. They still need a warrant to search your phone that they seize during arrest. Therefore, it's an illegal search and any and all that comes from the illegally searched property can't be charged*
The o7s in chat instantly when they hear Turners name is so good
Even if this goes to court, this sets up Ramee for a textbook “Fruit of the poisonous tree” defense. IRL none of it would be admissible in court and the whole case would have to be tossed and restarted through another means of opening the investigation
Ok so the legal rules for phones in the real world is that the police can only force you to open your pass locked phone if they get a warrant for it.
However, with face scan locks, there has been legal cases where the police was allowed to use the face scanner to open a subjects phone without the need for a warrant.
Moreover phones in the city aren't locked and anybody can steal anothers phone and look into it. Sot it's an interesting legal question if it's ever brought up in court. Because from RL precedence which they often use in the city, the police can legally search your phone.
the way i see notebooks is that if they can just read them automatically then people will literally just go back to unreadable gang documents, and no one wants that tbh
this, this will fast track killing this item's usefulessness to crims in los santos cause it causes more headaches for them
when something is subject to seizure and examination that doesnt mean you can in this case read the full book you can open it and examine its contents make sure that its not related directly to the crime ie hiding a weapon or admitting to said crime if it has either of those you can question about it but if not it is not subject to further pursuit but you can question why they had it on them but not the contents of the book
just to clear things up if the book has dates witnessings etc you can get a nonguilty verdict like a diary stating "(insert date) had to do X thing today at X place and witnessed X thing" which would do that but then by not informing the police of said happenings you are admitting to allowing said incident to happen but you can also plead that you were scared and that they might have seen you etc
The problem I have with the phone argument is that it seems like we conveniently switch between real life and los Santos. The thing is, phones in Los Santos have no pass codes, so it is just information like the book. Oh yeah btw a subpoena is not the same as a warrant, if there is a subpoena put out on one's phone, they can choose not to give it up. The problem with doing that is you can get contempt and that ruling is at the discretion of the judge, technically you don't have to follow a subpoena, however the consequences can vary and more than likely would end up being really bad. I'd imagine the only reason to not turn in evidence a subpoena was issued on would be if that evidence could get you in hut charges. Either say tho probably not a good idea especially if the judge is crane who actually knows what he is doing.
Love the lawyer ark finally getting some back on the cops 😂
5:27 how about your client says he’s writing a fairytale? They can’t prove otherwise, hold him accountable, use it in court
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If i remember correctly, Crane was the first opponent had in Ramee's first court case😂
Idk if I might actually want ramee to become a lawyer for a longer time and stop being a criminal, it seems like so much fun and rp
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