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    i is the imaginary (complex) unit, but what is its square root?
    We'll use some complex number theory and matching coefficients to solve a system of equations to figure this one out!
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  • @BriTheMathGuy
    @BriTheMathGuy  10 месяцев назад +27

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  • @kingbeauregard
    @kingbeauregard 2 года назад +1055

    The neat thing is, the fact that there isn't a meta-imaginary means that our number system is closed.

    • @Kokurorokuko
      @Kokurorokuko 2 года назад +151

      Yeah. It's interesting that humanity had to spent so much time to make numbers "complete". There are quaternions, though, but they don't have some properties which imaginary numbers have.

    • @Noam_.Menashe
      @Noam_.Menashe 2 года назад +20

      Does been able tomae undefined numbers and singularities still keep it closed?

    • @axoluna
      @axoluna 2 года назад +69

      It is still possible to define further numbers; even natural numbers are “made up.” Check out the dual numbers, a separate number system where the new unit E^2 = 0

    • @mertaliyigit3288
      @mertaliyigit3288 2 года назад +47

      @@Kokurorokuko imaginary numbers also lack some properties of real numbers. Inequalities dont work anymore

    • @brandonklein1
      @brandonklein1 2 года назад +17

      Sets are only closed under particular operations, so we need to specify which operations and sets we're talking about for that statement to be meaningful.

  • @DIEGOJEFF
    @DIEGOJEFF 2 года назад +717

    That’s pretty cool; personally, I like number 4.

    • @wockhardt9705
      @wockhardt9705 2 года назад +12

      lmfaooo

    • @ktz1185
      @ktz1185 2 года назад +7

      LMAO

    • @pasztesnik
      @pasztesnik Год назад +9

      Perfection

    • @qwertyflags
      @qwertyflags Год назад +9

      welp he's definitely not asian

    • @Bozitico
      @Bozitico 9 месяцев назад +1

      SAME. Everyone always thinks it's weird, but it is important to solving math entirely. Well, every number has a role. But I like 4's role.😊😊😊

  • @0riginator
    @0riginator 2 года назад +618

    Alternative method:
    Represent i in polar form
    Therefore, i = cos(π/2) + isin(π/2)
    By Euler's formula, e^(iθ) = cosθ + isinθ
    Therefore i = e^(iπ/2)
    Now √i = i^(1/2) = e^(iπ/4)
    Therefore √i = cos(π/4) + isin(π/4)
    √i = 1/√2 + i/√2
    √i = (1+i)/√2

    • @PunmasterSTP
      @PunmasterSTP 2 года назад +26

      Yeah, that's what I thought about right when I saw the thumbnail.

    • @flowingafterglow629
      @flowingafterglow629 2 года назад +43

      @@PunmasterSTP Because it is so much easier

    • @gitgudnoobs7917
      @gitgudnoobs7917 2 года назад +4

      This is quite neat.

    • @angeluomo
      @angeluomo 2 года назад +2

      Also my method. Had it in three steps.

    • @matejnovosad9152
      @matejnovosad9152 2 года назад +2

      So much uglier, but works

  • @hassan55055
    @hassan55055 2 года назад +376

    i was actually wondering this the other day. how this recommendation was so spot on blows my mind

    • @charliewallisch5581
      @charliewallisch5581 2 года назад +6

      Literally the same for me

    • @thedarkslayer9475
      @thedarkslayer9475 2 года назад +8

      I was studying complex numbers and this got recommended

    • @wellen_good972
      @wellen_good972 2 года назад +2

      @@thedarkslayer9475 same

    • @benjaminkenney3706
      @benjaminkenney3706 2 года назад +3

      Apple is listening through our phones I swear

    • @jacobw59
      @jacobw59 2 года назад +1

      Same for me. I think the video was recommended based on our search histories and overall interests.

  • @Obotron7
    @Obotron7 2 года назад +137

    Just a small thing; 0:14 Imaginary numbers are a subset of Complex Numbers, not the same.

    • @user-sb9ho5jz3e
      @user-sb9ho5jz3e 10 месяцев назад +9

      before it was official, people used imaginary numbers to refer to any numbers that have an imaginary part

    • @juxx9628
      @juxx9628 9 месяцев назад

      @@user-sb9ho5jz3e Official? Like what time? Cardano's time? Descartes time? Euler's time? Gauss time? Cauchy time? What is "official complex numbers"?

  • @BriTheMathGuy
    @BriTheMathGuy  2 года назад +457

    Technically we define i by having the property i^2=-1. That is, sqrt(-1) is the principal root of i^2. It's just more convenient for this video say i=sqrt(-1).

    • @createyourownfuture3840
      @createyourownfuture3840 2 года назад +13

      blackpenredpen found the √i using both this method and using polar coordinates.

    • @themlaw9895
      @themlaw9895 2 года назад +4

      Nice video but i is not equal to sqrt(-1) : suppose sqrt(-1) exist, so
      sqrt(-1)² = sqrt(-1)×sqrt(-1)
      = sqrt(-1×-1)
      = sqrt(1)
      = 1; wich is different of i², which is -1
      So i is not a number that has a value, his only property is i²= -1, so your starting point is wrong, nice try though

    • @kshitij7b286
      @kshitij7b286 2 года назад +36

      @@themlaw9895 it is wrong √(-1)×√(-1)= √[(-1)×(-1)=√1=1
      The property √a×√b=√ab holds if and only atleast one of the number is positive that is either a≥0 or b≥0

    • @createyourownfuture3840
      @createyourownfuture3840 2 года назад +12

      @@themlaw9895 The property of exponents you just used isn't true for complex numbers, but you enter that field when you talk about √-1. i is as real as real numbers, and nature works in complex numbers, not real ones.

    • @MUJAHID96414
      @MUJAHID96414 2 года назад +3

      I am excited to learn upper class math🤩, but I haven't books

  • @PunmasterSTP
    @PunmasterSTP 2 года назад +131

    Another awesome video as always! I was curious about another method. Instead of using either Euler or De Moivre's formula, when you have the equation 0 + 1i = (a^2 - b^2) + 2ab*i, you could try setting a = b. If you do, then 1 = 2b^2 and so b = +/- sqrt(2)/2 = a, and sqrt(i) = +/- (sqrt(2)/2 + i*sqrt(2)/2). Knowing there are only two square roots of a complex number, you would be done. I also tried setting a = -b, and I got complex values for a and b, but plugging them into (a + bi) I got the same thing!

  • @JakubS
    @JakubS 2 года назад +20

    you can also just know that a 45 degree, 90 degree, 45 degree triangle with hypotenuse of 1 has sides of 1/√2

    • @v44n7
      @v44n7 Год назад

      this, its a beautiful way to see it

    • @lathasri3483
      @lathasri3483 Месяц назад

      Amazing

  • @PubicGore
    @PubicGore 2 года назад +25

    In the complex numbers, the nth root function takes on n values. Probably important to mention that.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 2 года назад +2

      No. Do you know what the definition of a function is?

    • @PubicGore
      @PubicGore 2 года назад +8

      @@angelmendez-rivera351 Oh boy. Look what we have here. A person who seems to correct every little thing just to feel superior because they want to demonstrate that they know what they're talking about. All you really demonstrate is that you're insecure and probably terrible at that which you boast to practice with such skill. There is something called a multivalued function. This is clearly what I meant by "function." This association is hardly needed when you're talking to people who are somewhat competent. In complex analysis, the definition of function is extended. If you knew that, you wouldn't be trying to correct me. It remains a fact that the nth root is a multivalued function on C, and every nonzero complex number has n different complex nth roots.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 2 года назад

      @@PubicGore *Oh boy. Look what we have here. A person who seems to correct every little thing just to feel superior because they want to demonstrate that they know what they're talking about. All you really demonstrate is that you're insecure and probably terrible at that which you boast to practice with such skill.*
      Being said by someone who is being outwardly and intentionally condescending, and putting their train of insults before any valid arguments, this is just meaningless bluster. Did you get it out of your system? Did that stroke your ego enough?
      *There is something called a multivalued function. This is clearly what I meant by "function."*
      I know what it is you are talking about, but your misuse of terminology was worth pointing out. "Multivalued function" is a contradiction in terms.
      *In complex analysis, the definition of function is extended. If you knew that, you wouldn't be trying to correct me.*
      No. I know you are wrong, and I have more than sufficient education to know that. Your ignorant self being in a state of denial does not change this fact. I know the study of Riemann sheets is important in complex analysis and projective geometry, and they are also an an important foundation for studying presheafs. It changes absolutely nothing about the fact that you are wrong. No textbook in complex analysis defines function differently than in any other context. If you actually were literate on the subject, you would never talk about "multivalued functions." Almost no one educated on the subject does.

    • @Gautam-tk8tf
      @Gautam-tk8tf 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@PubicGore woah chill, you wrecked that guy-

  • @pNsB
    @pNsB 2 года назад +67

    Nice! I always thought of it as:
    i = e^(i pi/2)
    i^(1/2) = +- e^( i pi/4)
    and just leave it at that, because I prefer polar form for some reason

  • @sagnikasen2402
    @sagnikasen2402 2 года назад +9

    Hello Brian! Your videos are captivating as usual. Really enjoyed it.
    I was hoping if you could kindly make a video on tensors. It would be really helpful

  • @matejnovosad9152
    @matejnovosad9152 2 года назад +6

    This was a problem on my first Further Maths test in AS-Levels. Pretty easy but very fun!

  • @reevsy3
    @reevsy3 2 года назад +85

    I was given this problem in an introductory maths module for physics and thought of a simple geometric interpretation. I figured √(i) as being half the rotation around the origin in an argand diagram from 1 to i, since multiplying by i has the effect of "rotating" a number 90 degrees counter clockwise. Therefore the coordinates for √(i) would be the points on the unit circle that were half way between 1 and i either way. This would gives two points on the unit circle, one going 45 degrees counter clockwise from 1, and another going 135 degrees clockwise from 1. You can quickly see these are both 45 degree angles from the axis, thus a^2 + a^2 = 1 --> 2a^2 = 1 --> a^2 = 1/2 --> a = +1/√(2) or -1/√(2) for the respective top right and bottom left quadrant solutions. Therefore √(i) = +1/√(2) * (1 + i) or -1/√(2) * (1 + i)

    • @sujaiy6646
      @sujaiy6646 2 года назад +8

      Nice 😊👍👍👍

    • @kaan8964
      @kaan8964 2 года назад +1

      What is the concept of rotating imaginary numbers called?

    • @andrewkarsten5268
      @andrewkarsten5268 2 года назад +4

      @@kaan8964 it’s really more of the general interpretation of multiplication in general. It’s a great interpretation. I recommend 3blue1brown’s video on complex numbers, he gives a wonderful way to rethink what addition and multiplication actually mean. The way to think of complex numbers falls right out of that.

    • @Diaming787
      @Diaming787 2 года назад +1

      @@kaan8964 complex numbers are in a form of a+bi but so is r*e^(i*theta), and theta is the rotation part. Example: i is equal to e^(i*pi/2) because it is rotated pi/2 radians from the +Real axis. -1 = e^(i*pi) because it is rotated pi radians, which is why when you multiply by negative numbers, you 'flip' to it's negative side.

  • @happygood18
    @happygood18 Год назад +1

    Thanks! This is amazing!

  • @TamjidANoor-sh9bv
    @TamjidANoor-sh9bv 3 дня назад +1

    Actually for any root of complex we can use a formula
    r=√(x^2+y^2)
    It's modulas
    Z=x+yi
    √z=1/√2{√(r+x) +i√(r-x)}

  • @federico2218
    @federico2218 2 года назад

    I'm an Italian high school student and I've just watched your video. I found it amazing! If I were you I wouldn't have a clue how to solve it. Just outstanding!

  • @tcthebeast3804
    @tcthebeast3804 2 года назад +2

    Just took Complex Analysis last semester. Good vid

  • @data50090
    @data50090 2 года назад +5

    Imagine a 6th grader watching this video, couldn't be me right?

    •  2 месяца назад

      How's 8th grade going?

    • @data50090
      @data50090 2 месяца назад

      pretty well so far, math score really good and I am going to be one of the 5 people in my school to do the mathematics national competition in my country (I hope that goes well)

    • @andreijuega401
      @andreijuega401 Месяц назад

      ​@@data50090Gl

    • @kaauchpohtato
      @kaauchpohtato Месяц назад

      dang howd that go?

    • @data50090
      @data50090 Месяц назад

      @@kaauchpohtato it did not go well

  • @theuserings
    @theuserings 2 года назад +2

    Find i^i
    Know: e^(iπ) = -1
    Raise both sides to 1/2 th power
    e^(iπ)^(1/2) = (-1)^(1/2)
    e^(iπ)^(1/2) = i
    Raise both sides to the i th power
    e^(iπ)^(1/2)^(i) = i^i
    By properties of exponents, we have:
    e^(i²π1/2) = i^i
    i² = -1 by definition, in the end we have:
    e^(-π/2) = i^i

  • @TheNormMan
    @TheNormMan 2 года назад +1

    Nicer to see with the "unit circle" (is this the right vocabulary here?) and multiplications of numbers on it as adding the angles

  • @TheMergan326
    @TheMergan326 7 месяцев назад

    2:00 with the left equation we know a = ± b and knowing this the second equation is east to solve

  • @Rene_Christensen
    @Rene_Christensen 2 года назад +1

    This turns up in for example micro acoustics where the problem has both diffusion and propagation like properties.

  • @comradezach
    @comradezach 2 года назад +2

    I'm so happy that I managed to get the real and imaginary parts being cosπ/4 and sinπ/4 just by looking at the thumbnail, feels nice to have something make Intuit sense.
    A neat way to think about this is rotation, multiplication by i gives a 90° or π/2 movement, so √i would be half that

  • @maximilianarold
    @maximilianarold 7 месяцев назад +1

    It actually makes sense. If i^1 is a rotation by 90° or π/2 then i^(1/2) or √i is a rotation by 45° or π/4

  • @user-ip9bn7lt6g
    @user-ip9bn7lt6g 2 года назад +1

    Also, you can think about sqrt(i) in context of rotation: -1 is turn on 180 degree and if we multiple any number by i twice, it's means we rotate by 90 degree two times and get negative number with respect to original one. So, in that case, we should to find "rotation" of real number by 45 degree. Using knowledge about trigonometry we find out length of imaginary projection and real one the same. So, the answer will be (1/sqrt(2)) * (1 + i)

  • @anawilliams1332
    @anawilliams1332 2 года назад

    I think you can also work this out by first saying that the must have equal argument that add to pi/2 so it must have a argument of pi/4 or 3pi/4. And the modulus must multiply to make 1 and be equal. So it must be root(2)

  • @KazuyaMLBB
    @KazuyaMLBB 2 года назад +3

    Some dude that ask: Hey what's your favorite number?
    Me: √i

    • @elchile336
      @elchile336 Месяц назад

      that same guy: ...in real values?
      Me: 4throot(-1)

  • @charliebowditch7975
    @charliebowditch7975 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is the same as rotating 1/sqrt2 + (1/sqrt 2)i by 45 degrees to get i, which is neat this means the cube root will be 30 degrees. The third root of i is cos(30) + sin(30)i = sqrt3/2 + (1/2)i. The rule is therefore nth root of i = cos(pi/2n) + sin(pi/2n)i

  • @samyakmarathe3434
    @samyakmarathe3434 2 года назад +1

    u can also prove it using the fact that e^ix = i, where x = pi/2

  • @barakathayek8204
    @barakathayek8204 2 года назад +1

    It's more simple if you use the exponential form

  • @raphael-gm9jt
    @raphael-gm9jt 2 года назад

    finished a complex analysis homework recently and stumbled on this number, this was 7 days ago? dope!

  • @adsbegon8405
    @adsbegon8405 15 дней назад

    2:00 First way I saw was a and b must be equal so 1/2=a^2 which means a or b=+-1/sqrt2

  • @ViniciusTeixeira1
    @ViniciusTeixeira1 2 года назад +2

    i = e^(i(pi/2 + 2kpi)) => i^(1/2) = e^(i(pi/4 + kpi)) = cos(pi/4 + kpi) + i*sin(pi/4 + kpi) = + or - (sqrt(2)/2 + i*sqrt(2)/2), k being an integer.
    :)

  • @monsieurmeu4699
    @monsieurmeu4699 2 года назад

    And what do you think about :
    sqr(i)=j sqr(j)=h ?

  • @monse53
    @monse53 2 месяца назад

    Calculating it in polar coordinates is much simpler: i is 1 / 90 deg. Consequently sqrt(i) is 1 / 45 deg, or sqrt(0.5)+i sqrt(0.5) (Pytagoras)

  • @niccolopaganinifranzliszt3556
    @niccolopaganinifranzliszt3556 9 месяцев назад

    You can also solve for this as:
    i=cos(π/2+2πn)+i*sin(π/2+2πn)
    √(i)=cos(π/4+πn)+i*sin(π/4+πn) where n is an integer
    Since if we have (cos(x)+i*sin(x))^(a)=cos(ax)+i*sin(ax)

  • @Dragonaiis
    @Dragonaiis 2 года назад +1

    Anywhere you see a 1/√2 can be replaced with the following (according to unit circle):
    cos(π/4) = 1/√2
    cos(7π/4) = 1/√2
    sin(π/4) = 1/√2
    sin(3π/4) = 1/√2
    Alternatively you can get negatives:
    cos(5π/4) = -1/√2
    cos(3π/4) = -1/√2
    sin(5π/4) = -1/√2
    sin(7π/4) = -1/√2
    Perhaps these could all be used as substitutes?
    I tried replacing some of these with 1/√2 in the final equation at the end of the video and I graphed it but the equation looks wildly different. Thoughts?

  • @circuit10
    @circuit10 Год назад

    It would be better if you also showed it on an Argand diagram and explained how multiplying numbers adds their arguments so the two solutions are halfway around to i in each direction

  • @djbeacon1826
    @djbeacon1826 2 года назад +2

    in class i suggested adding "imaginary numbers" to the natraul, integer etc. chart and some student started screaming "A GAJILLION ZILLION!!!" and i did not sleep well that night...

  • @pinedelgado4743
    @pinedelgado4743 2 года назад +15

    Love this stuff!! Complex numbers are among my favorite mathematical objects!! Thanks lots for posting!! :) :)

  • @mujtabaalam5907
    @mujtabaalam5907 2 года назад +2

    You can think of this geometrically by drawing a unit circle on the complex plane.

  • @darianleyer5777
    @darianleyer5777 7 месяцев назад

    Also, by logical reasoning, if 2ab = 1, then ab = 1/2, and therefore, there are two valid options for the values of a and b.
    The only known factors of 2 are 1, the Square Root of 2, and 2 itself, as it is prime.
    Therefore, if it is given that a or b != Square Root of 2, then a = 1 and b = 1/2, or vice versa.
    Thus, the 2 and the 1/2 cancel out to 1, and 1^2 = 1.

  • @n0mad385
    @n0mad385 2 года назад +1

    I remember back in high school, we had to put the square root of I in the form a + bi. Still makes my brain hurt to this day

  • @kfibcudwiefjw7428
    @kfibcudwiefjw7428 Год назад

    0:22 correction: all complex* numbers can be written in this form

  • @jerimyv3314
    @jerimyv3314 Год назад

    Better insight is to use geometric polar coordinates and makes it easier to see why this works. i is a vector length 1 at 90 degrees. the square root is just same length 1 at (45 degrees) since square root of 1 for the length. Multiplying polar coordinates requires adding the angles. Therefore if I multiply vector 1 at 45 degrees by itself it results in 1 at 45+45 = 90 degrees. Therefore the square root of i is the vector 1 at 45 degrees. This vector in rectangular coordinates is now = Cos(45 deg) + iSin(45deg) = 1/sqr(2) + i/sqr(2) = 1/(sqr(2) (1+i). On the Cartesian plan it is a vector length 1 at 45 degrees. Square root of i. Likewise i^2 = 1(180 degrees) or a vector length 1 at 180 degrees since it is twice 90 degrees. You can take i to any power by just multiplying the exponent by the angle in polar coordinates and then convert to rectangular coordinates. The vector is always a length of 1. The math is easier.

  • @Slaydrik
    @Slaydrik 2 года назад

    The way I found a and b was thus:
    if 0 = a^2 - b^2, then a and b must be the same.
    if 1 = 2ab, then ab = 1/2.
    if a and b are the same and multiply to be 1/2, then each must be the square root of 1/2, AKA 1/sqrt(2).

  • @anshumanagrawal346
    @anshumanagrawal346 2 года назад +3

    What a Coincidence! You and Professor Penn posted at the same time

  • @sparr0www820
    @sparr0www820 Месяц назад

    just a rotation on complex axis

  • @a.syndeed
    @a.syndeed 2 года назад

    Another super interesting thing is i raised to the i-th power
    First the Euler's thing, e^(ix) = cosx + isinx. Plugging in x = π/2, e^(iπ/2) = i.
    So, i^i = (e^(iπ/2))^i = e^(iπ/2 * i) = e^(-π/2)

  • @olivierbailly516
    @olivierbailly516 2 года назад

    Way easier using polar coordinates. i = exp(i.pi/2), thus i^(1/2) = exp(i.pi/4), which is the positive root you found. Of course it's opposite value, -exp(i.pi/4) will also be a valid solution, which yields the negative answer.

  • @flaht3964
    @flaht3964 2 года назад +3

    Draw a unit circle. Bcoz |sqrti|=1 r=1
    do positive 45 degree angle
    the height is imaginary part
    the base is real part

  • @nicolastorres147
    @nicolastorres147 2 года назад +1

    2:46 Irrationalizing the denominator

  • @arf101088
    @arf101088 7 месяцев назад

    dont reałly need to do much algebra imo. in the same way i is halfway rotated to -1, √i is halfway rotated to i. so in polar coordinates, its 1∠ π/4. but if you want it in normal coords or whatever, itd be (1+i)×√2/2 just going off the unit circle

  • @bloxrocks5179
    @bloxrocks5179 2 года назад +1

    I think an interesting method to this is realizing e^(i π/2) = i then taking the square roots of both sides
    e^(i π/4) = i^1/2
    From there apply eulers formula.

    • @andrewkarsten5268
      @andrewkarsten5268 2 года назад +1

      You miss a solution that way. If you start with e^(2nπi+iπ/2)=i, then take the square root, (to account for periodicity), then you’ll see you actually get two distinct solutions. The other is e^(5πi/4), which when you put into a+bi form gives -√2/2−i√2/2, which indeed gives i when squared.

  • @RyanthePokemonTrainer
    @RyanthePokemonTrainer 8 месяцев назад +1

    sqrt(i) = a+bi has one solution, (a+bi)^2=i has 2 solutions because the square root function is defined as the positive answer to the square root of a number.
    Also, there is a faster way.
    0 = a^2 - b^2
    a^2 = b^2
    a = b
    1 = 2ab
    1/2 = b^2 = a^2
    a & b = 1/sqrt(2)
    sqrt(i) = 1/sqrt(2) + 1/sqrt(2)i
    Just wanted to point that out, also it doesn’t require any powers of 4 so it’s simpler for younger audiences.

  • @RB-4
    @RB-4 7 месяцев назад

    He makes a video of all the things I think about

  • @juandavidrodriguezcastillo9190
    @juandavidrodriguezcastillo9190 2 года назад +1

    Cool , another way to do it is by the eulers identity, e^i(a)= cos(a)+i*sin(a), if we replace a=pi/2 then cos=0 and sin=1 so e^i(pi/2)=i and we can extract the square root (elevate to 1/2) and by properties of the exponents we have that square root(i)=e^i(pi/4)
    sorry for my english, i'm learning english and math with this Chanel and is cool

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  2 года назад

      Nice! Thanks and thanks for watching!

  • @EternalLoveAnkh
    @EternalLoveAnkh 2 года назад

    This is good. Although, I would have converted this into polar coordinates and solved it that way. Or... used roots of unity, where you divide the unit circle into n parts. In this case, divide the curve from (1, 0) to (0, i) into two parts both counterclockwise (which gives you the positive solution) and clockwise (which gives you the negative solution). I explain this in my roots of unity video.
    RJ

  • @marcusscience23
    @marcusscience23 2 года назад +2

    Imagine a unit circle centered on the origin of the complex plane. Start from 1 and rotate a certain angle to get to another number on that circle, for example -1, and to take its square root, take the point that you would get with half that angle. You can convert the numbers with angles by using sin for the imaginary part and cos for the real part.
    Edit: You can rotate halfway both directions because square roots can be positive and negative.

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 2 года назад +1

      The question is then which direction did you rotate. You can go the long way around the circle, or the short way (-1 had both paths be the same length) the path you took to get the destination determines whether the answer has a negative sign.
      Half of 360° is 180°, but 360° is the same as 0° and half of 0° is still 0°, and 0° is not the same as 180°.

    • @marcusscience23
      @marcusscience23 2 года назад +1

      @@angeldude101 It doesn’t matter because square roots can be positive or negative.
      sqrt(1) can be +1 or -1.

  • @Dupermirrors342
    @Dupermirrors342 Год назад

    You could also try 1 divided by i

    • @Ostup_Burtik
      @Ostup_Burtik 6 месяцев назад

      1/i=(1*i)/(i*i)=i/i²=i/-1=-i

  • @pedroivog.s.6870
    @pedroivog.s.6870 Год назад +1

    That's why my teacher doesn't like square roots out of non negative real numbers: since it gives you two different values, it cannot be used as a function

  • @EvilSandwich
    @EvilSandwich 2 года назад +3

    Its cool that you used solid math to completely prove something that someone with a small amount of trig skill could have just intuitively deduced.
    If -1 is a 180 degree rotation on the complex plane and the square root of -1 is i (which is a 90 degree rotation on the complex plane), it stands to reason that the square root of i would be (1/root2) + (1/root2)i. Which is a 45 degree rotation on the complex plane.
    I wonder if that means that the 4th root of i is a 22.5 degree rotation? And so on.
    Proofs can be so elegant sometimes.
    Edit: YEP! The pattern holds!
    4th root of i = cos(pi/8) + sin(pi/8)i
    8th root of i = cos(pi/16) + sin(pi/16)i
    and so on.
    So you could generalize this to:
    Nth-Root of -1 = cos(pi/n) + sin(pi/n)i
    Neat!

    • @WaterMeetsLava
      @WaterMeetsLava 2 года назад +2

      That's basically De Moivre's theorem

    • @EvilSandwich
      @EvilSandwich 2 года назад +2

      @@WaterMeetsLava Oh! Good to know! I'll look it up!

  • @alidz2588
    @alidz2588 Месяц назад

    You could've used the exponential form for the answer.

  • @userhomer
    @userhomer 9 месяцев назад

    3:22 you aren't supposed to keep root in the denominator

  • @TomtheMagician21
    @TomtheMagician21 2 года назад

    What about sqrt(-i) would only one of the terms be flipped or something else entirely?

  • @johnmorrell3187
    @johnmorrell3187 2 года назад

    Another way to look at this; consider imaginary numbers as scaling and rotating numbers on the complex plane. i is at the 90 degree mark. Half a rotation from 1 to i would be a 45 degree rotation, which is at the same number as shown in the video.

  • @nono1569
    @nono1569 2 года назад

    using the properties of square roots, and the fact that i=sqrt(-1), you can assume that sqrt(i) would just be the fourth root of -1, which is also an imaginary number, therefore the most simplified way of writing it is actually just how you wrote it, which is as sqrt(i)

  • @rubenvela44
    @rubenvela44 2 года назад

    The man who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been

  • @wildfire_
    @wildfire_ 8 месяцев назад

    you could do this:
    i = sqrt(-1)
    sqrt(i)=sqrt(sqrt(-1))
    sqrt(sqrt(-1)) = (-1^1/2)^1/2
    sqrt(i)=-1^1/4
    this is should be an extra complex number because there is no number that can be 4th powered to a result of -1. i^4 = (i^2)^2 = -1^2 = 1

  • @maxencestorme5787
    @maxencestorme5787 2 года назад

    How did you pass from 0=(1/4b^2)-b^2 to 0=1-4b^4 ?

  • @_PsyChoPaThiCX.___.
    @_PsyChoPaThiCX.___. 2 года назад +1

    i always love your videos. could you plz make a dedicated video on phi or golden ratio.?? how it came? how to prove golden ratio? i would be very happy if you make a video about this. love from bangladesh

  • @deidara_8598
    @deidara_8598 2 года назад +1

    2:00 that is a massively overcomplicated way of solving it. Just say a^2 = b^2, since 1 = 2ab you know they have the same sign so you know a=b, thus you can just say that a=sqrt(0.5) and you've solved it. Sqrt(i) = sqrt(0.5) + i*sqrt(0.5)

    • @serulu3490
      @serulu3490 2 года назад +1

      Ikr 1=2a²
      1/2 = a²
      a = b= 1/√2

  • @Firefly256
    @Firefly256 2 года назад +11

    Shouldn’t the result be the “positive result” only because we’re talking about the principal root?

    • @simong1666
      @simong1666 2 года назад +1

      Think of the case of sqrt(-i)... then the roots are (1-i) and (-1+i) which one qualifies as positive?

    • @Firefly256
      @Firefly256 2 года назад +1

      @@simong1666 When dealing with b⁴ = 1 you only get 1 as answer, not -1
      Because
      sqrt(36) = x
      x² = 36
      Now we have created an extraneous solution x = -6
      Because of principal root, sqrt(36) only equals 6. If talking about all roots, sqrt(36) = 6, -6
      So because we squared the square root, when we do the inverse of x² = 36, we just do the step
      x = sqrt(36), and not x = ±sqrt(36)
      In the video he did ± which I think is wrong if we're talking about principal root, which we usually are

    • @qwerty687687
      @qwerty687687 2 года назад

      the whole point of complex numbers is to calculate all roots, not just the principal root. As Simon G pointed out, the concept of a principal root doesn't even make sense for roots of complex numbers (with a non-zero imaginary part). So I don't think we atre talking just about principal roots here.

  • @henriquemunhoz511
    @henriquemunhoz511 2 года назад

    Moivres's formula
    Z^n = |Z|^n * cis(n*ø)
    Say that Z = i, then Z^(1/2) = i^(1/2) = k
    Z also equals to a+bi, so a=0 and b=1
    Angle is 90° and |Z|=±1
    k = ±cis(90*(1/2) = ±cis(45) = ±[(2^(1/2))(1+i)]/2

  • @axbs4863
    @axbs4863 2 года назад +1

    I wanna know what i to the i’th tetration is

    • @aweebthatlovesmath4220
      @aweebthatlovesmath4220 2 года назад

      Wait is i-th tetration definited? Because i did it by my own and i got ln(0) in eqution which is undefined (in limit -∞ )

    • @axbs4863
      @axbs4863 2 года назад

      @@aweebthatlovesmath4220 rip

  • @antares2804
    @antares2804 2 года назад

    Just u can use de moivre, nothing complex, the z^(1/n) for every naturaln n and complex z (maybe except zero, but 0^x=0 anyway) can be calculated.

  • @khongocten161
    @khongocten161 Месяц назад

    the way 1^2 = (-1)^2 = 1 made me think that there should be 4 answers to x^2 = i (*) since i is an imaginary number and that other 2 solutions is just 2/4 answer to (*)

  • @sauhardyahaldar4416
    @sauhardyahaldar4416 2 года назад +1

    Please increase the volume... It's too low..

  • @AntiZoophileOvergunner
    @AntiZoophileOvergunner 10 месяцев назад

    Fun fact: All numbers, including real numbers, can be written in a+bi form
    a can be anything, but b has to be 0

  • @SoloBoomerGamer
    @SoloBoomerGamer Год назад

    When squaring both sides of an equation, be careful not to introduce extraneous roots.

  • @JDCullison1
    @JDCullison1 7 месяцев назад

    All you're doing is changing it from i = sin(90°) to sqrt(i) = +/- sin(45°). Neat.

  • @legitjimmyjaylight8409
    @legitjimmyjaylight8409 Год назад

    It is the 45 degree rotation and at 45 + 180 degree rotation with absolute value 1

  • @scrungozeclown836
    @scrungozeclown836 Год назад

    You can also consider the complex definition of a "square (complex) number" - root the amplitude and half the angle.
    With this definition, and the extra knowledge that i has an amplitude of 1 and an angle of π/2 (90°), we can use those two bits of information to conclude that sqrt(i) must have an amplitude of 1 and an angle of π/4 (45°)
    All we have to do is use the formula for a complex point with amplitude α and angle θ: z=αcos(θ)+αsin(θ)i
    If we plug in α=1 and θ=π/4 (45°), we get sqrt(i)=1/sqrt(2)+(1/sqrt(2))i

    • @scrungozeclown836
      @scrungozeclown836 Год назад

      Of course, on a circle, π/2 radians is the same as -3π/2 radians, and half of that would be -3π/4. Plugging in the values gives you the negative answer.
      I will say, im not sure why it was surprising to the videomaker that there was two answers? Thats how the square root "function" works for every other number (that fits on the complex plane - i dont exactly know ALL math, so maybe there is a number that has only 1 square root?)

  • @wiggles7976
    @wiggles7976 2 года назад +2

    sqrt(x) is a function of x so it can only have one result, not two.

    • @mathisnotforthefaintofheart
      @mathisnotforthefaintofheart 2 года назад

      Yes, and actually using the square root symbol is abuse of notation when dealing with complex numbers. A better way of putting the problem is "Solve the quadratic equation x^2=i" and that equation has....TWO (complex) solutions of the form a+bi.

    • @fewwiggle
      @fewwiggle 2 года назад

      In mathematics, a square root of a number x is a number y such that y2 = x
      So, by definition, you have two solutions

    • @wiggles7976
      @wiggles7976 2 года назад

      @@mathisnotforthefaintofheart How is it an abuse of notation? You can always just take the root with the smallest angle, even if you have the 5th root of i or any root of i, or any root of any complex number.

    • @mathisnotforthefaintofheart
      @mathisnotforthefaintofheart 2 года назад

      @@wiggles7976 Then that needs to be clearly mentioned in the question. Very often it isn't.

  • @nenemtiaof5016
    @nenemtiaof5016 Год назад

    Is there negative index root ?

  • @Xayuap
    @Xayuap 2 года назад

    you could say 1/√2 = √2/2 = cos π/4
    so the number is a unit with angle of π/4 or 5π/4
    the same as ∓e^(πi/4)

  • @voikalternos
    @voikalternos 2 года назад

    I was curious about it but I immediately remembered e^(i\pi/4)

  • @Anonymous4045
    @Anonymous4045 2 года назад +1

    This mightve just been my algebra teacher being picky, but arent you not supposed to leave roots in the denominator? I mean, i understand why 1/sqrt(2) looks better than sqrt(2)/2, but i believe the latter is easier to work with

  • @Nanook128
    @Nanook128 2 года назад +1

    Would the square root of I also be the 4th root of negative 1?

  • @willemkoning2142
    @willemkoning2142 2 года назад

    2:00 “Pick your favorite way of solving this”. Doesn’t it just include lesser steps to conclude from a^2-b^2=0 that a=+/-b?

  • @jeffreypenkoff6178
    @jeffreypenkoff6178 Год назад

    Since (a^2-b^2) = 0, that gives 2 cases: a=b or a = -b. Is there a reason that the a = -b case wasn't addressed? Is there some reason that I can't figure out why that case doesn't work or something? If that cse doesn't work, the video should explain why. If that case DOES in fact work, then your solution would be incomplete

  • @iceywolf2200
    @iceywolf2200 2 года назад

    i just went home from school tired from my math class and i see this which took away my last braincell

  • @Xayuap
    @Xayuap 2 года назад

    what we must be aware is that
    u(θ) = i^(θ ∙ 2/π)
    so, for any given angle θ
    u(θ) returns a complex unit in its angle.
    so i^2 = -1 and i^(1/2) = (1+i)√2/2
    i³ = -i and i ⁻¹ = -i too

  • @matei_woold_wewu
    @matei_woold_wewu 27 дней назад

    (1+i)/√2

  • @v44n7
    @v44n7 Год назад

    if i= -1^1/2 --> the square root of i it's -1^(1/2)(1/2) which equals to -1^(1/4) right?

  • @mx.fuzzypants1911
    @mx.fuzzypants1911 8 месяцев назад

    Why is it not just the fourth root of -1?

  • @YOUSIFPOTATOYT0
    @YOUSIFPOTATOYT0 2 года назад +4

    I mean just use the polar form

  • @bendesch98
    @bendesch98 2 года назад +2

    Shouldn't the only correct answer be when a and b are both positive? I feel like the reason you get +/- is because you started by squaring both sides, which added another solution

    • @kchromaticpiano
      @kchromaticpiano 2 года назад

      You will realize it is not extraneous if you plug it into the original equation though!

    • @simong1666
      @simong1666 2 года назад

      The sqrt(-i) is 1-i and -1+i As can be seen there is no only positive or only negative rule to be followed

  • @Glitchnb
    @Glitchnb 7 месяцев назад

    Me : *watch an math video*
    Also me : *doesn't understand any single word of what the guy said*