I am 73 years old and I hate that feminism has become a dirty word. I supported equality of opportunity for women and equal pay for work of equal value. I hated that many feminists devalued the work of women in the home and will continue to insist that it is still undervalued today.
You mean white people making sure that any other group or women can't run on their tickets, that kind of identity politics? You mean the patriot act? That kind of authoritarianism, or the call from trump to police to become more violent with protesters that don't agree with him? All while the right kills more people in terrorist attack than any other group..
Trump is a twat - but don’t conflate his idiocy with what Paglia is saying. And the white thing doesn’t wash. People kill people. No matter the colour. It was ever thus.
Because if she speaks fast that makes her smart and correct in everything she says! Actually research things please, Shapiro has a whole mob of you idiots eating him up.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT ANCIENT HISTORY. Today's small minds, have no conception of hardship, evil, human social evolution, SOCIOBIOLOGY, America's unique value, concepts of freedom, e.g. free speech, etc. Gotta love Camille.
How come your "free speech" always consists of harassing others for expressing their belief and telling them to shut up and they should have no rights in our society? It's almost like you're hypocrites who has no concept of freedom and equality for all, not just for you and what you believe...
How explosive and piercing Paglia is. She's probably about 70 y/o here. Amazing. She is truly one of the few public intellectuals around, having been so for years. Whether one agrees with a particular take of hers or not, her singular stature is undisputed. She will be discussed and analyzed 200 years and more from now while numerous feminists, academics, culture critics and analyzers have long before become dust in the wind.
I'm so exhausted from trying to reawaken women to first wave feminism. Being a first wave feminist in "Generation Snowflake" feels like banging your head into a wall hoping to break through the wall.
And the Red Pill Mgtow snowflakes. "Oh god captain Marvel isn't wearing a skin tight outfit so I can jack off and features a strong woman! The humanity!"
Congratulations? I know a group of people online that are crying about a movie story a strong woman. That can't stand seeing gay or transgender people in media. At least there are a few good ones of you.
I love Camille Paglia, and agree with her, VERY much, however, I am somewhat surprised that she left out, completely, the FACT that women, basically, until the beginnings of last the century, and, ESPECIALLY in Mozart's & Michaelangelo's times, for example, were NOT allowed to pursue the Fine Art's, with VERY, VERY few exceptions, because they were to be wives, mothers, nursemaids, domestics, spinsters or nuns, etc, anything ELSE was simply NOT socially acceptable. It was just the way it was. Who knows, consequently, if there would've been at least a few, or many, female musical, visual arts, philosophy, science, medicine, physics, literary, architectural, etc, EVERYTHING & ANYTHING, geniuses, despite females being,o obviously, physiologically different, including, typically, less aggressive, obsessive, driven, LESS testosterone-y, LOL, than men, however, there ARE always plenty of exceptions, sometimes, either way. Well into the late 19th & early 20th centuries, for instance, women were NOT allowed to part of the Paris painter schools, & groups, as full participating members, at least, who could vie to have their artwork featured in competitions or shown & sold in galleries.There were always a few token female artists, like the Italian painter she mentioned, who had had a VERY progressive, and, fairly wealthy, father, especially for that time, in that he allowed AND nurtured her desires to paint, paying for lessons & materials, etc, which was highly unusual, & quite exceptional, for females throughout the earlier CENTURIES... BTW, I LOVE the absolutely brilliant Kate Bush, but, FFS, dropping Art History & Classical Western Music History, the Great Composers, etc, completely from the university (? only) curriculum/courses is a travesty & an unfathomably IDIOTIC move, ESPECIALLY in Great Britain, where THEY should know something about tradition, culture & HISTORY, and know better, especially regarding university academics, than to let European culture & HISTORY, which art & music obviously parallel & greatly reflect, and doom it to become, more & more, unappreciated, unmentioned & ultimately, demeaned, and largely forgotten! Irresponsible, insane &.SAD, IMO, & very a bad omen for British, European, & North American culture...
My parents, grandparents and I have paved the way for my daughter to live more comfortably. My mom and dad walked on the railroad tracks picking up coal to heat their homes . Not what my daughter needs to be doing thank God . Too much bashing the younger generation . They have enough of their own challenges. Male bashing - young generation bashing- same thing
Gracias por subir esta charla. Me parece interesantísima su hipótesis sobre el minuto 11. Yo tengo otra diferente. Sí hay mujeres geniales en la música o la pintura, pocas, pero la realidad es que más que una cuestión de capacidad el centro está en los intereses. Para empezar, en esa época uno se adentraba en el mundo del arte como trabajador manual, de aprendiz, normalmente por su padre. Los niños imitaban al padre y las mujeres a la madre. Hay casos como el de La Roldana, hija de un escultor, pero yo creo que si las mujeres no nos hemos dedicado a la alta cultura ha sido en primer lugar porque no nos ha interesado, nuestros intereses iban por otro lado, nuestras circunstancias materiales y nuestros deberes sociales también, claro. Pero es que en la sociedad preindustrial, como bien sabe Paglia, la diferenciación sexual y de género tiene un sentido muy claro de supervivencia y de normalidad. Cuando muere el 20%-50% de tus hijos, tener hijos y criarlos es una tarea IMPORTANTÍSIMA y vital para la especie y para la comunidad. No es una tontería. Es una posición de PODER FEMENINO para dar la vida y para quitarla (infanticidio o negligencia). Y cuando una mujer no cuida ni cría al hijo es porque hay otra (una nodriza o criada) que sí lo hace, pero siempre tiene que haber una mujer por razones biológicas mamíferas relacionadas con la lactancia materna.No había lactancia artificial de forma masiva como sí lo hay ahora. Es decir, toda la "alta cultura" se apoya siempre en mujeres y hombres de las clases populares. Por otro lado está el concepto estético de qué consideramos arte o alta cultura. Las mujeres y los hombres del pueblo hacían música y arte popular y ahí había grandes genialidades ANÓNIMAS que no han quedado para la posteridad porque el arte popular era un arte vivo, del momento presente, de la cultura oral y esa era su magia. No necesitaba a la posteridad para ser grande, no necesitaba a reyes o historiadores para ser grande. La genialidad de aquella anciana del pueblo que cantaba un romance como Gerineldo era recordada por las personas que la conocieron y sus descendientes a través del recuerdo. Nada más y nada menos. Si las mujeres no se dedicaban a hacer música como Mozart era porque estarían a otra cosa. De hecho, sí que hubo una "female Mozart": su hermana Maria Anna Mozart. Y, efectivamente, dejó de tocar porque tenía que contraer matrimonio. www.lasinterferencias.com
I'd like to have her climb into my pickup truck and drive a bunch of gravel roads and blab away over some Motown music. She must be a lot of fun to be around.
@11:35 I certainly do try to control it when I'm standing in front of the toilet. Blame my parents. They taught me when I was young and impressionable. But if there is a projection thing about urinating and art or achievement, I missed the boat. I like basketball, does that count?
Maybe I can add some clarity; she did kinda rush by Freudian psychology. She believes, like Freud, that you cannot separate the physical body from the mind, and the changes to the physical body (gendered, in like 99.9% of cases) result in changes to the mind. Men having a....prehensile tool for urinating, as strange as that sounds, is just an early percursor to the biggest difference that tends to occur between men and women; object focus vs. people focus. Men tend to mostly integrate into the world through their own master of objects, including, yes, a stream of urine used as a tool. Infant boys tend to prefer toys that appear like tools, where girls prefer those with faces. Girls tend to prefer things like playing with dolls or interpersonal games, while boys tend to prefer tools or battles. Freud believed that this was only partly psychological, and also partly because our bodies, and the normal growth of them, facilitate this. So your appreciation of basketball is likely you appreciating others effectively manipulating tools towards a desired goal. That's not to say women CAN'T enjoy sports, or that men CAN'T enjoy interpersonal stuff, but it's just averages. That's what she was referring to there
@@cressidawettoncomedy Thank you for writing. Sorry to have taken nearly two years to find this conversation! Fox is interesting as politicians go: independent-minded and not too afraid to discuss what we used to call 'home truths.' I do agree with what Paglia says about ''presentism' (her coinage?). I notice it in my children, all in their 20s now. Such cynicism! Yrs, Lenore PS You've a lovely name.
@@lenorechurchman-davies4969 Absolutely agree. I've enjoyed watching a few Fox interviews now. Re: 'presentism', yes! I'm slowly making my way through Paglia's Sexual Personae and she makes me think about the deep, long history of humanity and how we've arrived at where we are currently. It's having a big impact on me.
It’s fun and dandy to say all this nonsense when you live in the west. It’s nice to say that men are more driven to create art when we know what role of women was in and still is in many countries and why women didn’t create said art. When you live in the west you forget about those things. As someone who is from the Middle East I am reminded everyday of those roles, I’m reminded that I’m still property and man is my oppressor. I’m glad that these women are in a position to see it differently that should be the goal but not erasure of history
trockfield wrote - What quite extraordinary nonsense Paglia is talking - I listened to this with my mouth wide open in astonishment! Well what do you expect when you stick your pitiful cowardly ass out of your safe space. You know you were never built to handle reality.
It's amazing when a well-educated person applies common sense to the world. All of the sudden, the world is not so complicated.
Only the simple minded thinks the world is a simple place.
i'm obsessed with how angry and enthusiastic and SINCERE she is
I dont see it as anger. Rather deep-rooted passion!
I am 73 years old and I hate that feminism has become a dirty word. I supported equality of opportunity for women and equal pay for work of equal value. I hated that many feminists devalued the work of women in the home and will continue to insist that it is still undervalued today.
Thank god Camille Paglia is back to fight post modern identity authoritarians. She calls them Stalinist hypocrites, and she's right.
You mean white people making sure that any other group or women can't run on their tickets, that kind of identity politics? You mean the patriot act? That kind of authoritarianism, or the call from trump to police to become more violent with protesters that don't agree with him? All while the right kills more people in terrorist attack than any other group..
Trump is a twat - but don’t conflate his idiocy with what Paglia is saying. And the white thing doesn’t wash. People kill people. No matter the colour. It was ever thus.
@@hutte1751 The right kills more people? Are you including the 250-million plus killed by communists in the 20th-century?
Hutt E shut up idiot
@@dorotheainmiddle lawl
My god this woman is fantastic. Her mind works so fast that she can't speak fast enough to keep up with it. This woman is my new hero.
Because if she speaks fast that makes her smart and correct in everything she says! Actually research things please, Shapiro has a whole mob of you idiots eating him up.
@@hutte1751 Get a life TROLL
This woman is brilliant
I totally agree!
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT ANCIENT HISTORY. Today's small minds, have no conception of hardship, evil, human social evolution, SOCIOBIOLOGY, America's unique value, concepts of freedom, e.g. free speech, etc. Gotta love Camille.
How come your "free speech" always consists of harassing others for expressing their belief and telling them to shut up and they should have no rights in our society? It's almost like you're hypocrites who has no concept of freedom and equality for all, not just for you and what you believe...
How explosive and piercing Paglia is. She's probably about 70 y/o here. Amazing. She is truly one of the few public intellectuals around, having been so for years. Whether one agrees with a particular take of hers or not, her singular stature is undisputed. She will be discussed and analyzed 200 years and more from now while numerous feminists, academics, culture critics and analyzers have long before become dust in the wind.
I'm so exhausted from trying to reawaken women to first wave feminism. Being a first wave feminist in "Generation Snowflake" feels like banging your head into a wall hoping to break through the wall.
I can't tell how many times I have listened to ALL available Paglia interviews.
Every time I listen to them, I discover new details and nuances.
“Thin skinned and easily offended”!! Yep that says everything about today’s feminism!!!
And the Red Pill Mgtow snowflakes. "Oh god captain Marvel isn't wearing a skin tight outfit so I can jack off and features a strong woman! The humanity!"
Most of today’s so called Feminists are actually against women’s liberation
You forgot to mention total disregard of facts and logic
Hutt E be quite your too stupid to have an opinion
She is right on....! As always...!
Keep going Camille...keep speaking the truth loud anc clearly please!!
Never in my life have I listened or stopped listening to a composer because of their sex or gender.
Congratulations? I know a group of people online that are crying about a movie story a strong woman. That can't stand seeing gay or transgender people in media. At least there are a few good ones of you.
Thankyou profoundly, Camille.
I love Camille Paglia, and agree with her, VERY much, however, I am somewhat surprised that she left out, completely, the FACT that women, basically, until the beginnings of last the century, and, ESPECIALLY in Mozart's & Michaelangelo's times, for example, were NOT allowed to pursue the Fine Art's, with VERY, VERY few exceptions, because they were to be wives, mothers, nursemaids, domestics, spinsters or nuns, etc, anything ELSE was simply NOT socially acceptable. It was just the way it was. Who knows, consequently, if there would've been at least a few, or many, female musical, visual arts, philosophy, science, medicine, physics, literary, architectural, etc, EVERYTHING & ANYTHING, geniuses, despite females being,o obviously, physiologically different, including, typically, less aggressive, obsessive, driven, LESS testosterone-y, LOL, than men, however, there ARE always plenty of exceptions, sometimes, either way. Well into the late 19th & early 20th centuries, for instance, women were NOT allowed to part of the Paris painter schools, & groups, as full participating members, at least, who could vie to have their artwork featured in competitions or shown & sold in galleries.There were always a few token female artists, like the Italian painter she mentioned, who had had a VERY progressive, and, fairly wealthy, father, especially for that time, in that he allowed AND nurtured her desires to paint, paying for lessons & materials, etc, which was highly unusual, & quite exceptional, for females throughout the earlier CENTURIES... BTW, I LOVE the absolutely brilliant Kate Bush, but, FFS, dropping Art History & Classical Western Music History, the Great Composers, etc, completely from the university (? only) curriculum/courses is a travesty & an unfathomably IDIOTIC move, ESPECIALLY in Great Britain, where THEY should know something about tradition, culture & HISTORY, and know better, especially regarding university academics, than to let European culture & HISTORY, which art & music obviously parallel & greatly reflect, and doom it to become, more & more, unappreciated, unmentioned & ultimately, demeaned, and largely forgotten! Irresponsible, insane &.SAD, IMO, & very a bad omen for British, European, & North American culture...
My parents, grandparents and I have paved the way for my daughter to live more comfortably. My mom and dad walked on the railroad tracks picking up coal to heat their homes . Not what my daughter needs to be doing thank God . Too much bashing the younger generation . They have enough of their own challenges. Male bashing - young generation bashing- same thing
Gracias por subir esta charla. Me parece interesantísima su hipótesis sobre el minuto 11. Yo tengo otra diferente. Sí hay mujeres geniales en la música o la pintura, pocas, pero la realidad es que más que una cuestión de capacidad el centro está en los intereses. Para empezar, en esa época uno se adentraba en el mundo del arte como trabajador manual, de aprendiz, normalmente por su padre. Los niños imitaban al padre y las mujeres a la madre. Hay casos como el de La Roldana, hija de un escultor, pero yo creo que si las mujeres no nos hemos dedicado a la alta cultura ha sido en primer lugar porque no nos ha interesado, nuestros intereses iban por otro lado, nuestras circunstancias materiales y nuestros deberes sociales también, claro. Pero es que en la sociedad preindustrial, como bien sabe Paglia, la diferenciación sexual y de género tiene un sentido muy claro de supervivencia y de normalidad. Cuando muere el 20%-50% de tus hijos, tener hijos y criarlos es una tarea IMPORTANTÍSIMA y vital para la especie y para la comunidad. No es una tontería. Es una posición de PODER FEMENINO para dar la vida y para quitarla (infanticidio o negligencia). Y cuando una mujer no cuida ni cría al hijo es porque hay otra (una nodriza o criada) que sí lo hace, pero siempre tiene que haber una mujer por razones biológicas mamíferas relacionadas con la lactancia materna.No había lactancia artificial de forma masiva como sí lo hay ahora. Es decir, toda la "alta cultura" se apoya siempre en mujeres y hombres de las clases populares. Por otro lado está el concepto estético de qué consideramos arte o alta cultura. Las mujeres y los hombres del pueblo hacían música y arte popular y ahí había grandes genialidades ANÓNIMAS que no han quedado para la posteridad porque el arte popular era un arte vivo, del momento presente, de la cultura oral y esa era su magia. No necesitaba a la posteridad para ser grande, no necesitaba a reyes o historiadores para ser grande. La genialidad de aquella anciana del pueblo que cantaba un romance como Gerineldo era recordada por las personas que la conocieron y sus descendientes a través del recuerdo. Nada más y nada menos. Si las mujeres no se dedicaban a hacer música como Mozart era porque estarían a otra cosa. De hecho, sí que hubo una "female Mozart": su hermana Maria Anna Mozart. Y, efectivamente, dejó de tocar porque tenía que contraer matrimonio. www.lasinterferencias.com
0.75 speed...whew! Now I can actually sit through this.
Thanks for suggestion. Tis better..
Good idea! It is much easier to listen to 👍
Sure. But at 0.50 she's been drinking! ;)
try it at 1,25 fisrt lecture then slow it down to normal second lecture
1.5 xD that was a trip
I'd like to have her climb into my pickup truck and drive a bunch of gravel roads and blab away over some Motown music. She must be a lot of fun to be around.
I totally love this woman .
Drink a redbull and play x2 speed
Would her voice then achieve the impossible: going faster than the speed of light?
Bravo 👏👏👏
'There is no such thing as biological sex.' I actually heard a post modern professor say this on a national tv show in Canada.
Who cares if they're upset? Who wants to replace men with state/school protection? Grow up.
Who’s the woman interviewing Camille?
Claire Fox.
When women obtained college degrees. wasn't it only natural that many would wish to compete with men in the worlds of business and the professions?
@11:35 I certainly do try to control it when I'm standing in front of the toilet. Blame my parents. They taught me when I was young and impressionable. But if there is a projection thing about urinating and art or achievement, I missed the boat. I like basketball, does that count?
Maybe I can add some clarity; she did kinda rush by Freudian psychology.
She believes, like Freud, that you cannot separate the physical body from the mind, and the changes to the physical body (gendered, in like 99.9% of cases) result in changes to the mind.
Men having a....prehensile tool for urinating, as strange as that sounds, is just an early percursor to the biggest difference that tends to occur between men and women; object focus vs. people focus.
Men tend to mostly integrate into the world through their own master of objects, including, yes, a stream of urine used as a tool. Infant boys tend to prefer toys that appear like tools, where girls prefer those with faces. Girls tend to prefer things like playing with dolls or interpersonal games, while boys tend to prefer tools or battles. Freud believed that this was only partly psychological, and also partly because our bodies, and the normal growth of them, facilitate this.
So your appreciation of basketball is likely you appreciating others effectively manipulating tools towards a desired goal. That's not to say women CAN'T enjoy sports, or that men CAN'T enjoy interpersonal stuff, but it's just averages. That's what she was referring to there
all Phd's should have a base in physic, chemistry, biology
So true! cool and intelligent lady.
You go Camille Paglia!!!
Can anyone tell me who the English woman is?
Claire Fox.
@@lenorechurchman-davies4969 Thank you! (Happily she was suggested in other RUclips videos soon after I watched this) :)
@@cressidawettoncomedy
Thank you for writing. Sorry to have taken nearly two years to find this conversation!
Fox is interesting as politicians go: independent-minded and not too afraid to discuss what we used to call 'home truths.'
I do agree with what Paglia says about ''presentism' (her coinage?). I notice it in my children, all in their 20s now. Such cynicism! Yrs, Lenore PS You've a lovely name.
@@lenorechurchman-davies4969 Absolutely agree. I've enjoyed watching a few Fox interviews now.
Re: 'presentism', yes! I'm slowly making my way through Paglia's Sexual Personae and she makes me think about the deep, long history of humanity and how we've arrived at where we are currently. It's having a big impact on me.
It’s fun and dandy to say all this nonsense when you live in the west. It’s nice to say that men are more driven to create art when we know what role of women was in and still is in many countries and why women didn’t create said art. When you live in the west you forget about those things. As someone who is from the Middle East I am reminded everyday of those roles, I’m reminded that I’m still property and man is my oppressor. I’m glad that these women are in a position to see it differently that should be the goal but not erasure of history
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chaotic energy incarnate
...Bessie Coleman
Some of what she says is on point, other things she says are completely absurd.
What do you think is absurd?
What quite extraordinary nonsense Paglia is talking - I listened to this with my mouth wide open in astonishment!
trockfield77 I couldn't agree more, and I'm male. She sounds like a holdover from the 20's, her favourite era: Freud and urination and all...
Nonsense? What exactly?
Maybe you can't handle the science.
rock-yeah, it's shocking to hear anything contradicting the marxist shit you've been swallowing since the 60's
trockfield wrote - What quite extraordinary nonsense Paglia is talking - I listened to this with my mouth wide open in astonishment!
Well what do you expect when you stick your pitiful cowardly ass out of your safe space. You know you were never built to handle reality.