LDS Interview with Former President of the Council of Twelve Apostles of Community of Christ (RLDS)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Linda L. Booth
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This actually makes me very grateful for the priesthood keys still held in the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints. This illustrates how doctrine can drift over time as it probably would in our church without the keys.
I thought the same thing. This is more confirmation that we are in the correct church or the true church of Christ. It’s so awesome to know this.
For real. One crazy thing that has clearly drifted was the understanding of the nature of God and Jesus. Joseph was so clear and profound on this doctrine throughout years of his life and yet they have still strayed from that simple truth.
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D&C 128:11
The second half of D&C 128:11 is very applicable here.
Very interesting interview. I learned a lot. Considering they believe in Joseph Smith's first vision, it surprises me that they believe in the trinity. It even further surprises me that they don't believe in Resurrection the core of Christianity. She infers that our belief that the church is the one true church is exclusionary, which is not true at all. It's quite the opposite. The church may be the vehicle in which God has ordained to administer saving ordinances, but ALL of God's children will have the opportunity to choose to come unto Him and be baptized by proper authority whether in this life or the next. Our view of heaven encompasses the grace of God and is more generous than any other Christian denomination. In our view, more people will make it to heaven than any other Christian denomination believes. The 3 degrees of glory give MORE opportunity for God's children to be admitted into heaven not less. His plan for his children is full of grace and mercy. The 3 degrees of glory also emphasize the importance of agency. In the end we will ultimately choose where we want to live in the eternities based on how we choose to use our agency. It's up to us. It's about agency, not hierarchy and exclusion as she infers.
They were struggling financially & to receive financial help from the universal church fund (don’t remember what it’s called) that many different Christian denominations draw from, they had to accept the credo trinitarian belief. When I visited there 20 some yrs ago, any questions were answered in very generic terms … like they gave up their beliefs that connected them to us, but hadn’t yet chosen exactly what they did believe then.
@@loridavis7086 that makes a lot of sense why they went to Trinity needing financial help . They could have sold us the kirtland Temple for a lot of money if they were struggling .
You’re a great interviewer, you have the gift of getting along with anyone and keeping things friendly and light.
Edit:
When religion is involved, I find it very difficult to be agreeable and keep listening about it for a long time, I don’t have a long patience for that, in my mind all it goes is “I don’t believe any of that and those people are deceived”. I clearly don’t have Jared’s gift.
I’m trying to get rid of those same prideful ways myself… I struggle the most when ppl incorrectly tell me what I believe, & when I try to share what I really believe, they tell me I’m deceived & my leaders are lying to me… & right out tell me I’m going to hell. I’m grateful we’re taught to seek for truth everywhere… & that we don’t believe we’re the only ones going to “heaven.” I wonder if we shouldn’t use “having the fullness” more than using “the one true church” wouldn’t present better to the general population.
@@loridavis7086 I know I kinda hesitate saying that to other people because it sounds so superior. But that is the truth and I believe it, and will continue believing it till the day I die. But it really is tricky and offensive to other people, they can’t imagine there’s only one true Church because they believe themselves to be a great people doing good (and most are) in great churches. But as much as there are different ways to be saved in a kingdom of glory, there is only ONE way to reach exaltation and inherit everything that the Father has. Pres Nelson boldly said “It’s not enough to be a nice fella, you need covenants.”
@@loridavis7086 in this video President Nelson says that: Watch "Interview With President Nelson and Elder Stevenson in Chile" - Church Newsroom.
I am mainly annoyed when people mock or claim to know more about what the church teaches than actual members. Beyond that, I guess I can get along with people of other faiths. Especially those who can respect the beliefs of others.
@Lori, I paraphrazed, his exact words are: " *Well, the Book of Mormon refutes the mistaken impression that all you need is good works and to be a nice fella. You have to have ordinances if you're going to reach the celestial glory that God has in mind. So, there are so many wonderful people in the world who have that feeling that as long as I don't break the law and I'm polite and careful to people, then I'll, that's all I need to do, but the Book of Mormon teaches over and over again that you need to have the ordinances and of course the temple. That's why we have temples-- so that all the potential that God has in store for his children can become a fact, a reality* ." (Pres. Nelson, Oct 2018, Interview With President Nelson and Elder Stevenson in Chile, Church Newsroom)
Thank you for having this sister share her beliefs in their church. As members of the church of Jesus christ of latter saints, we must hear others' beliefs. So when we have our testimony challenged, we don't "break apart" and start questioning our own limited understanding of the gospel.
All people are at a different part on their journey home. What I have learned from this channel is that God is communicating to all his kids, trying to give them all the best shot to get home with him (or to prepare them for future events) whether it be by us witnessing the wars & natural disasters, or whether it be by 5 perfect red heifers being found after hundreds of years searching. Things are culminating all around us, and we are all here to witness. I just love it! Thanks Jared for all the work you put in.
Jared I'm so thankful for your channel!! Over the past few months since I found your channel I have had a greater desire to study the scriptures and talks. I have felt an urgency to have the spirit more and more in my life so I can help others. Today I had the opportunity to share the book of mormon with a new friend, I have felt that we have been placed in each other's lives for a reason and today she started asking questions and I happened to have a copy here at the house. It's amazing to me how the spirit leads us when we are where we need to be. Thank you for your channel and your bom challenge that made me feel like I could do it.
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This was great. Very informative and makes me appreciate that I am a member of the Chirch of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Truly the fullness of the gospel.
I SO agree!
Great information Jared!
18:06 How can Christ live and still be in a trinity like a third part of something invisible? Very confusing.
And clearly we learn from Joseph's first vision that the Father and the Son are seperate beings, I don't get how they went back to the trinity from that knowledge.. ?
@@jenme7926 I was really shocked as well when I heard that they went back to the trinity, and even more that they don’t believe in resurrection. I thought everybody believed in the resurrection! Not being resurrected is a great curse like the rebellious spirits from the premortal life that lost the privilege of ever having a body.
😳 so many thoughts. What teachings of Joseph Smith did they keep!?
Has she not had access to the Book of Mormon? The Doctrine and Covenants? Joseph Smith interpreted/wrote them. Sounds like her church is doing lots of good but is missing so much. I'm so glad her church changed its name. It's like the scripture about the sifting of the wheat and tares. The division is becoming more obvious these days.
I had no idea that RLDS had gone so astray from the original teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints. Many of these teachings are verified in the New Testament, such as the need for Baptism, and Paul's teaching of the 3 glories in Heaven. Very interesting that they have moved so much farther than even some Christian Churches from basics of Jesus Teachings, to try and fit into the World.
This seems to line up with my reading last night in 2 Nephi 28.
30 For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of men line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little; and blessed are those who hearken unto my precepts, and lend an ear unto my counsel, for they shall learn wisdom; for unto him that receiveth I will give dmore; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be taken away even that which they have.
I can’t help but see the comparisons of the past…. It’s like the modern day is mirroring the ancient timeline. Each believing that they are right…. But when we look back we know who are the covenant people… sorry I’m not trying to offend anyone… just using the past to clearly see the present…. The similarities are uncanny
The church of Jesus Christ of later day saints = house of Israel (original covenant people restored)
Community of Christ = Catholicism and other sects that have changed the doctrine or “re” organized the original setup. ( trinity, no degrees of glory, ect)
The church of Christ = Muslim’s … a brake off that now owns the temple land…. Part of the original covenant.
Sorry I don’t mean to offend… it’s just how my brain works in seeing parallels.
Ecclesiastes 3: 15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
Couldn’t get through the whole thing. I’ll just say that I know the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is true.
D&C 128:11
I appreciate the effort and the information provided but as a point of interest - within 9 minutes a problem with authority seems to have come to the fore. Perhaps there is not enough explanation to make this conclusion. Joseph Smith III was asked to lead the Church. I thought it was Jesus that called His leaders.
Great doctrinal point.
This is interesting... But, I feel no spiritual pull in what she is saying.
As an apostle she seems so unsure of what she really believes.
I actually use to think that our church and the church of Christ had much more doctor in common, it does not sound to be so.
They seem as though they are conforming to the worlds belief in what they want Christ to be.
No animosity here at all, but also no spirit in this message.
I definitely felt confused by what exactly they believe, especially since I had thought the same as you...that we were a lot closer in doctrine than we actually appear to be. Eye opening interview. I feel more conviction in my testimony of the truthfulness of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints than ever before.
D&C 128:11
I am really glad that people come on your platform for interviews.
In 2020 I was able to visit Kirtland. At the Temple there was a groundskeeper named Steve who was a very pleasant man to converse with. It was during covid so no tours of the temple interior were being conducted. However, with the welcoming of that good brother it was easy to feel the spirit of the place realizing there are few places on earth where we know with *great specificity* where Jesus once came! And this advent was declared boldly our Doctrine and Covenants 110:1-4 .
Am always happy to hear from another branch of The Restoration.
Glad it has become easier in recent years to visit with our "theological cousins." :)
This is been a very interesting conversation. It really confirms my testimony of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
This was very good, thank you.
My number one question that I have for that organization is to know and understand their testimony, and belief in the book of Mormon. I wish we would’ve had some discussion on that, maybe next time.
My brother has been a member for a long time of the C of C. He says the Book of Mormon is now optional for them.
I could believe that because they have gotten so far away from doctrines they do not seem to have any connection .
Thank you for this interview. It is very well done. I’m wondering what the Community of Christ would say was Joseph Smith’s mission. If they no longer teach “a true church,” what do they say Joseph Smith’s experience was for? Do they believe in a restoration?
All of their historical stuff has been revised or dropped. They are more generic in their beliefs.
@@debrawelcome8158 I understand. I’m just trying to understand what role Joseph (in their view) played as a prophet.
This was a great and respectful interview. Because of your kindness and tolerance you making easier for people to be on your channel. I learned a lot from your presentations. At least I see a lot more clearer how much closer to the Savior return we really are. Can't wait :)
Interesting to see how the Community of Christ has moved all over the place in doctrine from the original restoration without the keys of the kingdom.
Wow. Their church has been completely changed from what Joseph Smith taught. She’s a very nice lady, but more just like a regular Christian, except a much more hippie like love and peace version.
Just think that the people in wheelchairs, Adhd, Autism, any physical issues… WHAT JOY, HOPE IT BRINGS ANYONE would have during the resurection and having your body in perfect form. The body plus spirit creates a fullness of Joy. Gods plan is of our Happiness.
So it seems like if their is anything that Joseph Smith was bold about that today would make them not welcome among other Christian groups they just say “Well, that was something Joseph Smith was exploring. We haven’t taught that for years.”
The Lord made the (RLDS) change their name to avoid confusion with the true and restored Church , Now "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" becomes a unique long name!! Blessings to sister Booth!
That's a great insight
Wow, this is so enlightening. Thank you for doing this interview. I appreciate her willingness to be open and to share about her church. I hope she will come back and do another one. I have so many more questions.
Jared, I love how you are so respectful in your interviews to people of different beliefs, even if their tone is condescending at times. And you ask good questions. Thank you.
WHAAA how do they believe in the trinity when Joseph Smith witnessed God and Jesus ? God told Joseph that their "creeds" are an abomination ? They are just another protestant church.... DUDE they gave up the very essence of the restoration. This is what happens when those evangelicals get involve gah!
I shared two Books of Mormon this morning by texting the share now link from the gospel library app.
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Very interesting interview. It seems like there is more to why and how they changed besides how she explains it but that would be hard to prove with limited evidence available. It's so sad to see how much they gave up and how limited they are when you know their potential.
It sounds like The Community of Christ church has adopted a kind of “New Age Church” vibe.
What a polite and respectful interview.
Our doctrine seems so “tangible” when compared to these other churches beliefs. I feel that what other faiths believe is so abstract, unclear, and mysterious.
It's amazing to hear people are looking to the heavens fur their guidance and counsel. Keep seeking this we all need it especially in our day
"We are deeply honored to assume the stewardship of these sacred places, documents and artifacts," President Russell M. Nelson of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said in the joint statement. "We thank our friends at Community of Christ for their great care and cooperation in preserving these historical treasures thus far. We are committed to doing the same." They will still be open to the public.
The communities of Christ is just another Christian denomination with little difference from others in doctrine and beliefs and it’s because they sold their restoration doctrine back in the 80s in order to avoid bankruptcy. They joined a larger group of churches for financial support and had to ditch a lot of their unique doctrines for that help. That is why 1/3 of the members left their church, not because of the name change. It’s truly sad what happened but that was inevitable and is just more evidence that Brigham young truly was the next Prophet after Joseph Smith. The one true church has only grown every year since the founding while all of the break off groups have shrunk if not disappeared completely.
I think you can take it or leave it in this church . The Book of Mormon. Is not their main focus . They are more like all the other Trinity church’s . I have always wonder why they or anyone thought a prophets first son would automatically be the next prophet or the one to get the double portion when it never ever happened in the Bible . If anyone can name a first born Son? Seems it never happened . Abraham did not give Ishmael that right but Isaac big thy feel they were the one chosen to be the covenant people . And Joseph in Egypt’s first born did not get it either . Nor did Issac first born twin son Esau but Jacob . The pattern of first born did not seem to happen . Even Moses was not the first born Son . So to say Joseph Smith the third should inherit it makes no sense as it does not follow the pattern . We have Joseph F Smith and Joseph Fielding Smith . Only two related . I think the interview went well and she told kind of clearly what they believe but it was different then what I thought . Seems they went completely away from the restored church . I would like to see what the temple Lot church believes .
Maybe I’ve misunderstood her comments but for them to say that they never had polygamy and that the doctrine that carried forward was never done it the RCJ or the church of Christ never participated in polygamy. But it’s a fact that Joseph Smith had more then one wife before his death. So how do they explain that in separation of the original church that Joseph established under the direction of the lord?
I have visited Kirtland a few times. The temple was neat, especially because my ancestors helped to build it, but I felt the Spirit much stronger in the N K Whitney store.
Wondering if they know about the Joseph Smith papers or believe they are JS teachings. She seems very sweet and like she focuses a lot on Jesus which is admirable.
How do you reconcile the first vision with a belief in the Trinity?
I love all the building of bridges with various belifs on this channel! With so much opposition in any belief of God in the world; its a great time for us all to be unified in our love of God, in its various expressions.
56:55 Why is Christianity so important then if she said a Jew that doesn’t believe in Christ should go to the best place? It does seem like Christ is not necessary at all, but only being a kind person and you’re all set.
I’m just so grateful to be a member of The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint . I had to stop watching the interview as I felt this would not help my testimony . I have learned to stop listening to confuse people as the the prophet suggested. At that time my testimony was not as strong as it is today! Sorry I just don’t think this help’s me spiritually this is only my opinion hope no one feels offended.
I love that you were listening to what the spirit directed for you. I think it's so important to keep strengthening our testimonies, especially in these last days as many are and will be deceived. We are truly blessed to have the truth of the gospel. Blessings to you, sister! 🩷
Yes, that’s exactly what President Nelson said in order to strengthen our testimony, to not listen to those people that have doubts, that lead us astray, to not rehearse our doubts with other doubters, and elder Bednar has a talk “and we heeded them not”. You’re doing well to stay away from these things. Watching this video, I myself felt a relief that I’m not in that situation, that I’m not lost, that I’m strong in the church, so what I felt was relief for myself and sadness for those people.
Some Community of Christ congregations continue to teach the 3 degrees of glory. It is also recorded in the official church scruptures, which can be found on the denominational website (section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants).
I find her very articulate and open minded. My questions for her from listening: Paul speaks in Romans 8: 16-17, so from
what she says they don't follow that? also.....New testament speaks of the third heaven, do they believe in the New Testament??
Interesting interview. Aside from acknowledging that Joseph Smith went into the woods, prayed and saw something, they've retained next to nothing of the Gospel. They seem like good people but I feel sad for all they've lost.
I wish I could ask her some questions. I don't think she understands, that if people do not accept, or turn from Christ's teachings, or rebel against them, will not be in the same level as someone who tries to live by the laws and doctrine of Christ. We see the levels of people today even now, the levels of wickedness and the godless, the Satan worshipers, and casual believers who say they believe but don't follow that up with any effort...we would rather be living with people who love the Lord as we...I would imagine she would agree, if she really thought about it. However ,according to our doctrine, after death, when they have paid the price of sin, they will ultimately inherit a glory, terrestrial, telestial...and will be happy, after realizing their sins and what harm they have done. And the Celestial glory, we know only a worthy married priesthood holder can inherit a place in the highest glory in the Celestial glory. These are the only ones who will increase and inhabit other kingdoms, just as our Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother had spirit children, in another realm so will we, who have worked to achieve that level, through our ordinances, our work, our thoughts, words and intent...Do they believe in the Book of Mormon? I get from her talk, as she believes in the Trinity, you go to Heaven or you go to Hell...If you read the Book of Mormon, how can you come to this conclusion?
It's great all mormons get on together if we love God we respect and love all people and respect all religions our article of faith sais We believe in worshiping Almighty God to the dictates of our own conscience and allow all men to do the same let them worship how where and what they may we thank Thee o God for a prophet to guide us in these latterdays a fruit of Joseph Smith is showing the world that we keep the commandment of loving one another and not arguing over religion im a latterday saint and love you community Of Christ
What about when Jesus says you need to be born of water and the spirit. To enter the kingdom of God? Do they not follow the Jesus of the Bible?
Thank you for a wonderful interview. It was interesting to hear your guest explain their current belief system. I love how you let her speak and not speak over her.
What I found interesting is how far they have moved away from our beliefs and how they are continuing this trend. Even her own children haven’t been taught things that she believed or once believed. It definitely doesn’t feel like they are an off shoot of our church anymore and it appears they will continue to move even further as older members die and their beliefs are not passed on to the future generations to learn from and develop a testimony of..
I don't know where i heard that babies would know more about the gospel than grown man!!! There you have it!!!
Thanks for doing this interview Jared. Great questions. It helped strengthen my faith. ♥️
Wow that's some fuzzy theology.
Jared you did it again! So informative!
This was very interesting and I really want to thank both of you for providing this hour of learning. Well I was very happy to learn what they believe it is only strengthened my appreciation for my membership in the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints
Amazing interview. I'm surprised with how much the largest branch has drifted from Restoration revelations. I'm surprised that they don't have a doctrine / church affirmation of the resurrection. Like that's not even an LDS teaching it's in the Bible that people are resurrected generally
I have been to the Kirtland temple and I have been to the Community of Christ Independence they were amazing we got to sing the Spirit of God in both temples.
I was grateful to the Community of Christ for allowing us to visit.
Fascinating interview! Thanks for this. I've been to Independence and inside the sea shell temple of the Community Of Christ. Spoke with a missionary assigned there. It's a very beautiful building.
I knew they moved more toward protestant and evangelical type Christianity, but it seems they are also moving into universalism as well. She is a great speaker and I am glad that she seems to value Jesus Christ as the saviour.
Great episode.
So interesting!!!
"We need a community" I love that. It's so true, no matter what faith you are we need to have that support of others around us to help us make it through this craziness. Was very interesting to listen to and learn more about their beliefs. Thanks again!
We had a bit of a discussion on using the term “the 1 true church.” Latter Day Saint Q&A has a good podcast on that:
ruclips.net/video/8OmA8Pc75A8/видео.html
Interesting how when asked about their view of the First Vision at 24:52, she says Jesus' encounter, not Joseph's in the Sacred Grove.
Really enjoyed the interview! You both were so respectful and I loved what I learned about Community of Christ. I feel like she misunderstands a lot of what the church of Jesus Christ teaches (like how she views the 3 degrees of glory, it’s pretty one sided, like she learned everything from someone who left our church or something) but she was very kind nonetheless. It’s funny how similar we feel about things for the most part.
Hi Jared, 1 copy of The Book of Mormon app given. I left this message on an older video so don’t count it twice.
So interesting to believe in the Book of Mormon and not believe in the name of the church...or the 3 degrees of glory which is also mentioned in the Bible..
I can certainly see how others confuse the degrees of glory if they mix up Worth and Worthy and also just not realizing that it is about the desires of your heart and what you WANT that not wanting to live or be forced to live like God means that you don’t have to AND you don’t have to suffer in hell for all eternity.
Wonderful interview Thanks to the both of you.
Great interview with a wonderful woman. She’s a great ambassador for the Community of Christ. It appears that many of the unique teachings /doctrine of Joseph Smith have been changed either slightly or drastically. Seems they’ve become mostly mainstream. It’s wonderful to believe the restoration is continuing. I wish them well in their efforts to bring people to a belief in Christ.