Mathematician Deconstructs "A Beautiful Mind"

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  • @allanjmcpherson
    @allanjmcpherson 11 месяцев назад +125

    Honestly, a professor scribbling illegibly on the board because "isn't it obvious it's an eight?" seems incredibly realistic to me.

  • @alexpotts6520
    @alexpotts6520 11 месяцев назад +57

    "Phizer" and "GlaxoSmithKleinBottle" are the hallmarks of an underappreciated genius

    • @AnotherRoof
      @AnotherRoof  11 месяцев назад +18

      One of my patrons came up with Phizer so I can't take credit for that one!

  • @justanormalyoutubeuser3868
    @justanormalyoutubeuser3868 11 месяцев назад +74

    A maths professor having unintelligible writing is VERY accurate.

  • @herghamoo3242
    @herghamoo3242 11 месяцев назад +59

    I am at the University of Bergen, Norway (where I'm from). An auditorium here, where Nash held his last ever talk, has subsequently been named after him. According to some I know his talk was pretty much incomprehensible.

    • @mattias2576
      @mattias2576 11 месяцев назад +1

      Greetings from NTNU!

  • @DeviRuto
    @DeviRuto 10 месяцев назад +28

    The bar scene does portray nash equilibrium. If any of them had tried to take advantage of the others by trying to pick up the blonde, he would lose his friends, which has negative infinite value.

    • @AnotherRoof
      @AnotherRoof  10 месяцев назад +13

      Huh, I never thought of it that way. Interesting take!

    • @TheMasonX23
      @TheMasonX23 8 месяцев назад +2

      Ooh, good point!

  • @GhostyOcean
    @GhostyOcean 11 месяцев назад +46

    Haha, I like how MAFS is pronounced very similarly to maths. I'm excited to see the future installments.

    • @b43xoit
      @b43xoit 11 месяцев назад +3

      Especially in certain dialects.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 11 месяцев назад +4

      It is actually pronounced *identically* in many English accents. Download this video, cut out where he says "maths" and where he says "MAFS", and take a look for yourself in your audio editor of choice. For all intents and purposes, the sounds produced in both cases are identical.

    • @astralnekomimi
      @astralnekomimi 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, Another Roof pronounces "maths" as if it were "mafs."

    • @igorbednarski8048
      @igorbednarski8048 14 дней назад

      ​@@tissuepaper9962yes, some English dialects don't distinguish between /θ/ and /f/, but the vast majority do and you can immediately distinguish "roofless" from "ruthless" or "thought" from "fought"

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 14 дней назад

      @@igorbednarski8048 nothing you said contradicts what I said. what's your point?

  • @tetronym4549
    @tetronym4549 10 месяцев назад +6

    Honestly I'm just happy that the Math Cinematic Universe is getting so much development nowadays. I'm sure it's making role models for the next generation of mathematicians, and showing more than the "nerdy side" that people usually have in their minds.

  • @seanhunter111
    @seanhunter111 9 месяцев назад +4

    When I saw the bar scene I took it as him getting the inspiration for the idea of cooperative/adversarial strategies that he would then study further to become the equilibrium, not actually an equilibrium itself. I seem to recall reading an interview in which he said he liked the film for whatever that’s worth. I loved the “term of your natural lives” line when I watched it so it’s great to know that’s a real problem.

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 3 месяца назад +4

    Writing on windows: "I mean, I have done that, but that's beside the point." ROFL! YOU are my hero! It seems like a very good option if you are bothered by chalk dust and before the invention of marker boards. I subscribed immediately, of course. I'm nobody's mathematician, but I was on a math team that discovered some huge Mersenne primes. You can guess which team, I know. It's not a secret.

  • @mt_tuisku
    @mt_tuisku 11 месяцев назад +11

    Loved the video. Wasn't aware of the tragic end to Nash's life. :(

  • @ScienceMeetsFiction
    @ScienceMeetsFiction 11 месяцев назад +8

    I was lucky enough to meet John Nash when I was at Princeton, circa 2013. He was an impressive figure even then (although as I was in Astrophysics rather than Math, our contact was brief).

  • @magic8ball237
    @magic8ball237 8 месяцев назад +1

    Not every finite game has a Nash Equilibrium! Every finite *mixed* game has one (i.e. one where you probabilistically choose which strategy to apply). For a counter example, consider two players named same and different, each with a coin. The same player wins a point if the coins are the same, and the different player wins if they are different. In any state of the game, the losing player can just flip their coin to go into a state more beneficial to them. (I don't know if this is mentioned in the rest of the video, I am currently at 4:33)

  • @alexstremme6839
    @alexstremme6839 8 месяцев назад +1

    One gripe I have with the movie is that in reality, Nash shared the Nobel prize with two other game theorists, John Harsanyi and Reinhard Selten. The film version makes it seem as if Nash was the only recipient of the prize. This nags me as Reinhard Selten was my game theory professor when I was a student at Bonn, and he was in fact sitting right next to Nash in the (real) ceremony. Of course Nash also never gave a speech at the ceremony, but that's for someone else to complain about ...

  • @adamusher468
    @adamusher468 11 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you for the entertaining and thought provoking video.
    Thoroughly enjoying your content and style. As someone who stopped doing maths academically after A-levels in the late 90s, it is great to give those dormant neurons things to percolate over!
    I really value the highlighting of mental health issues and the humanity that we share. Can't wait for more!

  • @edderiofer
    @edderiofer 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ideas for a future video in the series: Flatland: The Movie (2007) vs Flatland: The Film (2007).

  • @Hermiene
    @Hermiene 11 месяцев назад +7

    What a great start to what I hope (and think) will be a great series! I applaud you for your streamlined editing, thoughtful comments, and wonderful narration! Keep it up!

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 3 месяца назад +1

    Whatever subtractions (see what I did there?) you have for the quality of A Beautiful Mind, you have to realize Jennifer Connelly puts the "Beautiful" in the movie. AND truly optimal (I did it again!) performances by a wonderful cast. Crowe and Connelly, of course, but Ed Harris, Josh Lucas, Judd Hirsch, The great Chris Plummer, Austin Pendelton...

    • @AnotherRoof
      @AnotherRoof  3 месяца назад

      And Paul Bettany! Had no idea Bryce Dallas Howard cameoed but I just googled the scene and it's so obvious -- must have seen it a dozen times and never made the connection!

  • @EebstertheGreat
    @EebstertheGreat 11 месяцев назад +3

    Will you make some shorts in this series called "Quick MAFS"?

  • @ryuguy032197
    @ryuguy032197 11 месяцев назад +3

    I personally think films/shows have people write on windows and glass boards. because it is easier to film both what is being writen as well as the facial features of the character........ Would love to jear why you wrote on a window?

    • @ryuguy032197
      @ryuguy032197 11 месяцев назад +2

      Also I might need to do some game theory analysis on what is optimal for schools. Like is it optimal for schools *to be run effective and managed well

    • @ryuguy032197
      @ryuguy032197 11 месяцев назад +1

      Final thoughts: thank you for presenting to me an intriguing movie I need to watch, but also an apparently honorable and distinguished Mathematician. Your depiction of his final moments before death saddens me.

  • @colinpitrat8639
    @colinpitrat8639 11 месяцев назад +5

    Doesn't it make a lot of sense that the scene doesn't depict a Nash equilibrium as it happens _before_ he discovers the concept?

    • @AnotherRoof
      @AnotherRoof  11 месяцев назад +6

      Hmm well the thing is that we have the bar scene then Nash immediately goes to write about it in his thesis, so I think people interpret the bar scene as showing his eureka moment of how he conceived of Nash equilibrium.

  • @Jo-pe9ue
    @Jo-pe9ue 11 месяцев назад +3

    Idea for next videos:
    Deconstruct "Good Will Hunting" or "The man who knew infinity".

  • @ktbbb5
    @ktbbb5 11 месяцев назад +4

    Great new series! I have a suggestion for a future movie: A Brilliant Young Mind (also called X+Y in some regions). A large part is about a boy's path towards participating in the International Mathematics Olympiad, and some scenes reminded me a lot of the type of people I met when I participated on national level.

    • @tollspiller2043
      @tollspiller2043 11 месяцев назад

      I think the main issue with that film is that it isn't necessarely a film in some sense, but rather just tagging along with the people preparing for the IMO

    • @nicksmith4507
      @nicksmith4507 9 месяцев назад

      I was about to suggest that film too, one of my favourites.

  • @JavierRuizGonzalez
    @JavierRuizGonzalez 10 месяцев назад +1

    Being from Manchester, I am pretty sure that Alex has seen movies on Alan Turing, Although I don't recall seeing any reference to actual mathematics there, except maybe a reference to the computational complexity of some procedure when trying to break the Enigma code.
    I just watched a movie based on Ramanujan, it was okay, but I think it failed to show how profoundly was Hardy affected by the young Indian.

  • @papaboris8665
    @papaboris8665 11 месяцев назад +2

    Love this video and excited for more in the series! Well, I'll throw out the obvious: Good Will Hunting. :)

  • @oscarmiranda9532
    @oscarmiranda9532 11 месяцев назад +1

    I hope you can do The Imitation Game next
    And maybe a few episodes of Numb3rs or Scorpion

  • @Scum42
    @Scum42 11 месяцев назад +2

    Love this as an idea for a series. Looking forward for more!

  • @TheMasonX23
    @TheMasonX23 8 месяцев назад

    Is the writing on the window trope possibly related to the discovery of the Quaternion by Sir William Rowan Hamilton on a walk, where he proceeded to carve it into the bridge? Kind of like what you had commented on earlier, about capitalizing on inspiration when it strikes at the most random of times. Not only is writing on glass a cool visual motif, but I imagine it is easier to act and film than carving stone as well haha

  • @angelowentzler9961
    @angelowentzler9961 11 месяцев назад +2

    This promises to be a great series, looking forward to your treatment of PI

  • @divided_by_dia446
    @divided_by_dia446 11 месяцев назад +3

    Phi-zer very clever, took me a minute :D

  • @thesmithsmaf
    @thesmithsmaf 9 месяцев назад

    I really enjoyed this, and not because I am called Maf, thanks for sharing your own story and your connection to Nash. At 56 I am going to return to studying Maths, I enjoed it at school but my interests and career took me in other directions. Now I am semi - retired and relocating to POrtugal i am going to look at some online courses to get back into the Mathosphere - Thank you

  • @rcuenen
    @rcuenen 11 месяцев назад +1

    Another maths movie I liked was "Fermat's Room"

  • @adityaaman1928
    @adityaaman1928 10 месяцев назад +1

    #suggestion 11:57 why only 2 dimensional graph? Please you can go for 3 - Quality, Accuracy and Quantity [ Here I mean to say, "If a film have more mathematic stuff then its has high quantity and if the film have more literature stuff such as protagonist/mathematic's life story & less mathematics stuff then it has less quantity" ].

  • @casualTetrisFan
    @casualTetrisFan 5 месяцев назад

    A CGP textbook I own says to do maths on windows 'to make the most of the sunsinh'.
    (or smth like that i can't rly be bothered to go find it for the exact wording)

  • @user-go5ri2yg5f
    @user-go5ri2yg5f 11 месяцев назад +2

    As a go player I'm just angry at this film for how nonsensical the go match is in it.

    • @AnotherRoof
      @AnotherRoof  11 месяцев назад +1

      Why? It's a flawed game!
      But seriously yeah even with my limited knowledge of Go, it looks pretty janky.

  • @ruilopes6638
    @ruilopes6638 11 месяцев назад

    Simply love the video and the idea for the series. I know how much you love films, and a space where you can talk about more than one of your passions will be greatly appreciated

  • @Calcprof
    @Calcprof 8 месяцев назад

    The source for the stuff about Nash as an undergraduate (which is not in the film) was my PhD advisor Richard J Duffin, who wrote a famous letter to get Nash into Princeton.

  • @velloceti6898
    @velloceti6898 11 месяцев назад +3

    The only (ir)rational choice is for the next film in your series is Darren Aronofsky's Pi.

    • @nicksmith4507
      @nicksmith4507 9 месяцев назад

      It has been a long time since I have seen that, but remember being blown away by it at the time.

  • @gamefaq
    @gamefaq 10 месяцев назад

    One suggestion for another film you could look into is "It's My Turn", where a character writes down a proof of the Snake Lemma on a blackboard.

  • @WatchingTokyo
    @WatchingTokyo 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! Cube could be an interesting one :)

  • @benjamingoldstein1111
    @benjamingoldstein1111 6 месяцев назад

    MAFS - the ultimate transition from geek to nerd.

  • @pierreabbat6157
    @pierreabbat6157 10 месяцев назад

    I have the book (somewhere, I had to move furniture so that they could repair the floor) but have not seen the movie. My mother was Alicia's cousin or something, and I went to the memorial or whatever it was called, which included a presentation of some of John Nash's math, which I didn't understand either. I work in other areas of math.
    After my mother died, a bunch of relatives, including Alicia and me, gathered in Raleigh and headed to a restaurant, which was noisy with our conversation. I sat across from Alicia and had a hard time understanding her accent in English. So I switched to Spanish. She and my mom came from the same part of El Salvador, so that was easier.

  • @nujuat
    @nujuat 10 месяцев назад

    The only other maths biography movie I think I've seen is Imitation Game (about Alan Turing)

  • @mikemcculley
    @mikemcculley Месяц назад

    I think is a weak point to say that the movie never explicitly stated that scene demonstrates Nash equilibrium. It was very clearly supposed to be that.

  • @billob1305
    @billob1305 10 месяцев назад

    Love your idea to do inspections on film maths!

  • @Greaterthantheproduct
    @Greaterthantheproduct 9 месяцев назад

    Your content is of the upmost quality. You deserve so many more views.

  • @agranero6
    @agranero6 9 месяцев назад

    As a teacher (I gave classes in logic and topology replacing temporarily someone that had an hemmorragy) the question I was asked the most was: "What is written there?"

  • @tommyhuffman7499
    @tommyhuffman7499 11 месяцев назад

    can't wait to see your other movie deconstructions

  • @grahammccracken991
    @grahammccracken991 11 месяцев назад

    Excellent video. I love that film. Not strictly just mathematical, but how about Moneyball?

  • @ThierryLalinne
    @ThierryLalinne 11 месяцев назад

    I enjoyed this new format. Thank you.

  • @tebla2074
    @tebla2074 11 месяцев назад

    Awesome vid, looking forward to more of these!

  • @pl412
    @pl412 11 месяцев назад +1

    i look forward to finding more cool movies to watch through this series

  • @DumbMuscle
    @DumbMuscle 11 месяцев назад +1

    THe ranking needs an acronym. General Ranking and Film Scoring - or GRAFS

  • @OghamTheBold
    @OghamTheBold 4 месяца назад

    Scene I have issue with - staring at boards of illuminated nonsense digits 'code' then asking for maps like some rain man 🌧 PS Why are we renting the rain

  • @dalesheldon-hess552
    @dalesheldon-hess552 11 месяцев назад

    Maybe “Imitation Game”? (That film makes me rage at its inaccuracies.)

  • @agnishom
    @agnishom 11 месяцев назад

    Great stuff. I am looking forward to this series (MAFS)

  • @karius85
    @karius85 11 месяцев назад

    Cool segment idea. Good job!

  • @nujuat
    @nujuat 10 месяцев назад

    But that's just a theory. A GAME THEORY! Thanks for watching.

  • @sergiojasierzurbanoperez4555
    @sergiojasierzurbanoperez4555 5 месяцев назад

    One of my favorite movies

  • @Hackybaby
    @Hackybaby 11 месяцев назад

    Very cool idea; I am looking forward to more of this !

  • @laserwolfturbo36
    @laserwolfturbo36 11 месяцев назад

    Great idea for a series!

  • @justintime7577
    @justintime7577 10 месяцев назад

    Thats fascinating. A lot of the scenes/tropes i have attributed to his schizophrenia rather than intelligence. It's weird hearing someone not pick up on that.

  • @monsterhunter8595
    @monsterhunter8595 11 месяцев назад +1

    Can you pleasw review "Pi"? Very strange movie...

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen 11 месяцев назад +1

    13:05 Where's the "My Mental Health Story" video?

    • @AnotherRoof
      @AnotherRoof  11 месяцев назад +1

      On my channel like three videos ago :)

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@AnotherRoof Oh, I guess you meant the video titled "Why Am I Completing 24 Maths Exams in 24 Hours?". I didn't understand that the thumbnail screenshot in this video referred to that one.

  • @pifibbi
    @pifibbi 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ah hecc yeah! I was waiting for something like this!

  • @jjkthebest
    @jjkthebest 11 месяцев назад

    My master's thesis was in combinatorial game theory, maybe I should watch this movie.

  • @cthonianmessiah
    @cthonianmessiah 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for explaining the topic. I think I'd make a poor mathematician, as much as I enjoy the subject in general.
    I did have a thought about the game show. I would tend to choose the "split" ball because in my mind the game has a third player (the producers of the show) and my objective would be to make sure they award a prize, rather than to attempt to maximize my score relative to my intended opponent. It's interesting how the worst possible strategy from the "two opposing players" point of view becomes the best possible strategy if the game is reinterpreted as "players vs. producers".
    The theoretical treatment of this situation is similar to "game of games" except that my move affects the state of both games in the larger system. I guess it breaks down to a certain extent because game theory would require both players to use the same utility function to evaluate the result, wouldn't it? I guess you could model a larger game where the choice of utility function by each player is a move in the game...

  • @twiddle7125
    @twiddle7125 11 месяцев назад

    I know it's a stretch to relate, but I wished you had even as a joke brought up Carrot in a Box with Sean Lock just for the hilarity if nothing else...

  • @kruksog
    @kruksog 11 месяцев назад

    This was fun. Keep it up.

  • @ryuguy032197
    @ryuguy032197 11 месяцев назад

    Is your mental health video public(non-patreon)? If so can i get a link? However if it is a patron exclusive, that might just be the "tug" i need to become a patron

  • @b43xoit
    @b43xoit 11 месяцев назад +1

    Now apply the learnings from the prisoner's dilemma to analysis of voting systems.

  • @bogdanieczezbyszka6538
    @bogdanieczezbyszka6538 11 месяцев назад

    I very recently have finished watching Breaking Bad an I must say I didn’t know Nash was teaching in Mexico.

  • @alexdamman6805
    @alexdamman6805 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome video, fully as entertaining as your others.

  • @JimWright1950
    @JimWright1950 Месяц назад

    I just watched your video and enjoyed it very much. I disagree with you, however, concerning Nash's death. His life work was finished and he'd just received the prize he wanted. What was left for him? It's the best way to bow out, on top of your game.
    As for the girl problem: If they'd all tried for the blonde, she might have picked one of them. If they all went for the other women except one, she might have rejected him and then so would the remaining woman. Hence, everyone would win except him.

  • @christopherrosado6053
    @christopherrosado6053 3 месяца назад

    Thanks Nice presentation Peace

  • @thomasdequincey5811
    @thomasdequincey5811 8 месяцев назад

    The film is a biography of John Nash, not an opinion piece by the writers! When Nash says "classes will dull your mind" we are being told something about Nash's character. We are not being given life advice. 'Another Roof' might use every chance it gets to virtue signal, but (back then) films didn't. They were about plot and character.
    SIDE NOTE: Now we get sh*t like Barbie where it's all virtue signalling.

  • @proKREStination
    @proKREStination 11 месяцев назад

    If you want a movie that's so bad on both axes that you'll have to go into quadrant III, review the movie 21.

  • @jonathanbarron8601
    @jonathanbarron8601 11 месяцев назад

    This is brilliant! Love the new series and cant wait for more

  • @agentdarkboote
    @agentdarkboote 11 месяцев назад

    Love MAFS

  • @themathhatter5290
    @themathhatter5290 11 месяцев назад

    This is perhaps the cliche and obvious film to put forth, but "Good Will Hunting" is another math adjacent movie

  • @Tomtraubert2009
    @Tomtraubert2009 7 месяцев назад

    and Cube sequels

  • @agranero6
    @agranero6 9 месяцев назад

    Before even watching the video I must say this: the movie is a sham, a caricature of Nash, the book by Sylvia Nasar is very good, it traces a very complete picture of the zeitgeist of the academic world en USA and Europe at that time and a detailed and profound description of Nash's mental illness seem by those around him, the persecution to homosexual that worked for the government and his mathematics and its relation to Nash. Even the internal polemic for giving the Nobel prize to him that triggered the restructuring of the Economics Noble Prize committee: without made up hallucinations (none of the hallucinations shown on the movie have any relation to Nash it just a childish distortion of the complexity of Nash disease) and cutting off inconvenient truths about Nash life (like he abandoning the first wife) and his failures in mathematics contributing to his breakdown, and his unwillingness to recognize his sexual orientation, to make him more heroic. Again (like in Apollo 13) Ron Howard butchers history fact An now if you search the tittle you have pages and pages of the movie and nothing about the book. I even wouldn't know any of that if by chance I hadn't bought an pocket edition on a supermarket. The movie is a disservice to the book, to Nash and to history.

  • @Macieks300
    @Macieks300 11 месяцев назад +2

    If you're going to review movies with maths look up if Mathologer didn't already make the same video you're about to do because he also did a series of videos about maths in movies

  • @Tomtraubert2009
    @Tomtraubert2009 7 месяцев назад

    Interstellar?

  • @probopassenjoyer
    @probopassenjoyer 11 месяцев назад

    i guess if all of them moved straight for the other women then there was an equilibrium because if one suddenly beelined for the blonde that would cause a scene, thus having him lose utility.

  • @petrosthegoober
    @petrosthegoober 11 месяцев назад

    i like this

  • @soninhodev7851
    @soninhodev7851 11 месяцев назад

    mafs... i knew mathmaticians have a good sense of houmor!

  • @yisahak
    @yisahak 11 месяцев назад

    I watched the movie yesterday :⁠^⁠)

  • @matthiasreinarz2088
    @matthiasreinarz2088 11 месяцев назад

    Hehe, "MAFS" 😄

  • @huhneat1076
    @huhneat1076 11 месяцев назад

    They animated the maths correctly

  • @Martykun36
    @Martykun36 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hello

    • @tom-on
      @tom-on 11 месяцев назад

      you were first

  • @rodrigoenriquez7259
    @rodrigoenriquez7259 11 месяцев назад

    I have only 1 complain about this video... not enough maths!
    Great video otherwise :)

  • @Ha-ppi-ness
    @Ha-ppi-ness 10 месяцев назад

    calling out women dehumanization was my fav part

  • @DrLogical987
    @DrLogical987 11 месяцев назад

    9:11 there is no "Nobel Prize" in Economics

  • @playfulmathematician5928
    @playfulmathematician5928 11 месяцев назад +1

    : )

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 11 месяцев назад +1

    Schooling generally does almost nothing. This should be pretty obvious given how much we forget: use it or lose it. And with Nash' point being about making connections in a specific area that he's motivated to make to the point of obsession, he's right. There's a limited scope of things you can really focus on at once and more finely correlate together, so looking at only those for a period of time, with other things to break up the monotony and space it out, makes sense

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 11 месяцев назад +1

    "Harmful stereotype" aka an accurate stereotype aka a stereotype

  • @taylorswiftsghost2779
    @taylorswiftsghost2779 11 месяцев назад +1

    The film left out the part in the book it is based on where Nash abandoned his first wife and son. They never reconciled.
    Game theory is fucking garbage, it's only applied in econ and evolutionary biology because it's easy to solve but has nothing interesting to say.
    Nash was a shit in his personal life and his prize winning work was worthless.

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 11 месяцев назад +1

    Game theory is pretty cringe

  • @snex000
    @snex000 11 месяцев назад +1

    The assertion that there is a human-caused "climate crisis" at all that can be easily solved is itself a bad equilibrium of game theory.

    • @elizathegamer413
      @elizathegamer413 11 месяцев назад +1

      Well, it really depends which part you mean. I mean, most agree it cannot be solved easily
      If you mean that humans could possibly create climate change I don't see how that's a game theory thing

    • @snex000
      @snex000 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@elizathegamer413 The whole thing. People cannot publish findings that do not support the narrative because they will be professionally punished. Scammers who collect government dollars (e.g. Solyndra) have an excellent incentive to keep it all going. What's happening in this sphere is closer to religion than science, precisely because of bad game theoretic incentive structures.

    • @elizathegamer413
      @elizathegamer413 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@snex000so heres the question: if the clinate crisis is false, doesnt that just mean people are wasting money? Like, as annoying as it is its not directly that bad. I know im sort of pascal's wagering this, but it seens like its better to believe the theory and try to fix the problem than to deny the theory and thus do nothing.
      On top of that, i struggle to see the incentive from your perspective of these scammers. Are they just pocketing government funds? Regardless of if there is a crisis or not, inventing technology like wind power and solar power (and other "green" science topics) is good for society as a whole, because it reduces dependancy on any one source of power. In the modern age, countries with oil access have great economic power because we need them for everything. However, green technology would allow for greater energy independence which is a net good for all the contries that currently have to buy oil from elsewhere. Its also very good for space travel. Since fossil fuels are literally from fossils, planets without life (and thus without fossils) need to be powered by other sources (and space as well).
      My overall point is this: if there is a climate crisis, it is important to try to fix it. If there is not, there is still a lot of good that comes from many areas of research related to it. Therefore no matter how you slice it its good to invest in these topics

    • @nektariosorfanoudakis2270
      @nektariosorfanoudakis2270 11 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@snex000Greetings, fellow flat Earther 🥸

    • @samgordon9756
      @samgordon9756 11 месяцев назад

      @@nektariosorfanoudakis2270you win one internet.