NASA’s Plan B: Why SpaceX Is Completing Boeing’s Starliner Mission | WSJ

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  • @wsj
    @wsj  16 дней назад +2

    Read more about NASA’s decision to use SpaceX instead of Boeing here: on.wsj.com/3MnqZ6o

    • @steveperreira5850
      @steveperreira5850 16 дней назад +1

      Smooth background sounds and production. Pretty superficial reporting. Not a lot of technical information here. Not this isn’t the worst report but, frankly, boring!

  • @frankowot4
    @frankowot4 19 дней назад +1320

    Boeing announces StarLiner Max.

    • @allancopland1768
      @allancopland1768 19 дней назад +65

      But, does it come with MCAS?

    • @harrisonmckenzie4905
      @harrisonmckenzie4905 19 дней назад +14

      😂😂😂😂

    • @user-tr1zj
      @user-tr1zj 19 дней назад +34

      @@allancopland1768 instead of causing it to crash into the ground, the starliner mcas causes your plane to burn up in the atmosphere

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 19 дней назад +4

      Much cleaner

    • @38Flyer
      @38Flyer 19 дней назад +3

      😂😂😂

  • @user-sv4nq8vq1s
    @user-sv4nq8vq1s 19 дней назад +307

    SpaceX did it for ~2 bn $. Boeing took ~4 bn $, delayed it and still failed. SpaceX is really on another level.

    • @keselekbakiak
      @keselekbakiak 17 дней назад +5

      If that is true, there has to be an investigation on both side.

    • @RCKUSA
      @RCKUSA 16 дней назад +6

      @@keselekbakiak Even if the Starliner hadn’t any problem it cost 90m$/seat almost the double of the Space X crew dragon (55m)

    • @dookie177
      @dookie177 16 дней назад +7

      management was trash. Starts from the top

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil 16 дней назад +2

      @@keselekbakiak Not just an investigation, there needs to be a clawback.

    • @steveperreira5850
      @steveperreira5850 16 дней назад +7

      Boeing is quite frankly a clown act.

  • @Underthepurple458
    @Underthepurple458 19 дней назад +2221

    Boeing is now a symbol of embarrassment and failure

    • @dantetre
      @dantetre 19 дней назад +26

      Only for American industry and work culture.

    • @accountnamewithheld
      @accountnamewithheld 19 дней назад +17

      Did you see the 737 MAX? this was inevitable

    • @jochem1986
      @jochem1986 19 дней назад +46

      @@dantetre No, us Europeans see it too. Boeing looks bad.

    • @jhank0cean
      @jhank0cean 19 дней назад +24

      @@dantetre American *_CEO_* work culture

    • @yHnziGfPH3E7dn
      @yHnziGfPH3E7dn 19 дней назад +4

      made in USA 🇺🇸 USA🇺🇸 🦅

  • @triplediff
    @triplediff 19 дней назад +722

    Stop giving boeing govt contracts. They've been milking the cow for decades and people only realize how bad it has gotten now that a real competitive company is in the mix.

    • @KendallSeabury
      @KendallSeabury 19 дней назад +14

      Actually the contract with NASA is if they go over the budget then Boeing is footing the bill for any cost over runs. its a win win for NASA.

    • @skytron22
      @skytron22 19 дней назад

      @@KendallSeabury They don't deserve any more contracts at this point, even if its a win win for NASA. And frankly, it isn't a win win when your astronauts get stuck in space because the agency decided to keep working with an unreliable Boeing

    • @Dr.Kraig_Ren
      @Dr.Kraig_Ren 19 дней назад +28

      ​@@KendallSeaburySo that means they can remove bolts and nuts on it so save costs

    • @jason94095
      @jason94095 19 дней назад +3

      @@Dr.Kraig_Renno, that is not how it works, Doctor… 🙄

    • @jakewatson2660
      @jakewatson2660 19 дней назад

      @@KendallSeaburyactually the contact Boeing won gave them much more money than spaceX got. For the same deliverables. Boeing robbed nasa blind.

  • @Viviko
    @Viviko 19 дней назад +1656

    This is what happens when you let a bunch of MBAs run an engineering company instead of engineers.

    • @theislander-sj1kq
      @theislander-sj1kq 19 дней назад +1

      We call them MBAs "BEAN COINTERS" in the industry, they killed most of the R&D work to save money and kill all innovations.

    • @theislander-sj1kq
      @theislander-sj1kq 19 дней назад +85

      Sorry I meant "BEAN COUNTERS"

    • @georgecharleston8532
      @georgecharleston8532 19 дней назад +22

      So True!

    • @michaeltalley51
      @michaeltalley51 19 дней назад

      Another attack of "The smartest people in the room". They always start out with flawed premise.

    • @kobusg7460
      @kobusg7460 19 дней назад +42

      Cherry on top: Gone woke

  • @igorkocvara6341
    @igorkocvara6341 19 дней назад +333

    If Boeing CEO salary wasnt 33 million dollars (45% increase from last year) maybe they would had money on sealing those pipes properly xD

    • @davidajayi1207
      @davidajayi1207 19 дней назад +4

      Well he’s not the ceo anymore and no whether he takes 1 dollar for 100 million, really doesn’t make a difference

    • @medstudent10101
      @medstudent10101 19 дней назад +8

      @@davidajayi1207 It's a symbol. Hybris leads to downfall

    • @Deontjie
      @Deontjie 19 дней назад +13

      Boeing got a governmnet hand out of more than 4 billion, for two astronauts, halfway. SpaceX got two billion for 50 astronauts.

    • @Antagon666
      @Antagon666 18 дней назад

      33 mil is nothing compared to budget.
      55 billion is.

    • @nv7213
      @nv7213 18 дней назад +2

      You do realize Elon Musk is the richest man in the world, no? His pay is far above any Boeing CEO's pay.

  • @Bravo.6
    @Bravo.6 19 дней назад +126

    This is why you shouldn't allow people who have the background of business & accounting to make decisions on science and technology related things.

    • @Liusila
      @Liusila 19 дней назад

      Unless you have enough money and power and you can wrangle your government to fund you forever!

    • @codefeenix
      @codefeenix 18 дней назад

      business guy went into space news at 9

    • @giacomocasanova2893
      @giacomocasanova2893 14 дней назад

      most engineers can‘t run operations efficiently. they are tools of the masters of the universe - MBAs

  • @mensrea1251
    @mensrea1251 19 дней назад +114

    When the coach replaces you with someone from the other team. 😂😂😂

  • @JigilJigil
    @JigilJigil 19 дней назад +633

    So Boeing got humiliated again.!

    • @frank-ko6de
      @frank-ko6de 19 дней назад +8

      Sad thing is that company clearly has no sense of shame hence their constant incompetence.

    • @jonathanmills7994
      @jonathanmills7994 19 дней назад +4

      Technically its Aerojet Rocketdyne mistake this time with the thrusters, but Boeing is going to take the heat.

    • @heybudi
      @heybudi 19 дней назад

      Surprised

    • @montoyagamerpictures7650
      @montoyagamerpictures7650 19 дней назад

      2 deadly plane crashes, and now 1 broken space capsule

    • @blip-hn6is
      @blip-hn6is 19 дней назад +3

      they chose profit over safety

  • @potato2941
    @potato2941 19 дней назад +421

    SpaceX was considered the "BACKUP" option in the SpaceX vs Boeing race..................

    • @tadmvmb
      @tadmvmb 19 дней назад +10

      You misinterpreted what he said
      They need two companies to back each other up! Any company can have setbacks no matter how good they are

    • @clevergirl4457
      @clevergirl4457 19 дней назад +110

      @@tadmvmbno they’re correct: before Both SpaceX and Boeing got the contract, Congress only wanted one provider: they wanted Boeing because of its legacy and supposed experience and a lot of lobbying.
      Thankfully NASA went with two providers

    • @juffowuppy
      @juffowuppy 19 дней назад

      ................

    • @winterinvicta
      @winterinvicta 19 дней назад +19

      @@clevergirl4457Boeing got complacent, they were so used to failing and still receiving billions in funding.

    • @Unbaguettable
      @Unbaguettable 19 дней назад +33

      even more proof that they're right: boeing was paid double the amount spacex did. Yet SpaceX did it faster, for cheaper, and boeing went well over their budget. SpaceX was the backup when the contracts were made

  • @121476
    @121476 19 дней назад +339

    The problem is all the good engineers have left Boeing for SpaceX. Boeing needs to start paying more or offer more perks

    • @williampankratz600
      @williampankratz600 19 дней назад

      Boeing didn't have great leadership in upper management and people were running away
      More than one Boeing whistleblower died before testifying and that seems suspicious

    • @BFAO1621
      @BFAO1621 19 дней назад

      That's not true. While you could say, many of the best want to work at SpaceX, the major problem of Boeing is politics. Its all about DEI and lack of ambition and working culture. SpaceX is "WAR" machine when it comes to fast development and trying crazy new things

    • @ltdees2362
      @ltdees2362 19 дней назад +5

      Bingo brother ! this is what I've been saying...and throw in money, power and politics...

    • @dragoonseye76
      @dragoonseye76 19 дней назад +3

      Boeing and SpaceX are the same in this case. Both running with Elon.

    • @RandomPerson-V
      @RandomPerson-V 19 дней назад +19

      The actual issues are likely on the upper management, even though Musk is a horrible boss to have he is mostly busy liking racist tweets so he doesn't seem have much time to ruin things at SpaceX.
      (Compared to the upper management of Boeing who seems to have intentionally ignored/moved on from fixing problems in their spacecraft due to cost overruns and delays which is probably one of the main reasons why they launched it with this many safety issues.)

  • @BeHelpfulNotHurtful
    @BeHelpfulNotHurtful 18 дней назад +27

    When Space X goes to pick them up, they should bring the Boeing CEO & a couple other Boeing Executives so they can "safely" fly back on Starliner to prove to us it was safe.

  • @MrGrundle
    @MrGrundle 19 дней назад +51

    Surprised Starliner's door didn't fall off...

    • @TheReal_JG
      @TheReal_JG 19 дней назад +6

      Ironically it did fall off before the launch. Boeing just picked it up and put it back on and called it a day. I'm surprised it's still on there.

    • @nathan9903
      @nathan9903 16 дней назад

      It hasent fell off BUT the software failure has made it so the door wont let the liner undock 😂

  • @SailaSobriquet
    @SailaSobriquet 19 дней назад +249

    Boeing ... BOEING ... GONE!

    • @kobusg7460
      @kobusg7460 19 дней назад +6

      Going woke, ... going ... gone

    • @elivegba8186
      @elivegba8186 19 дней назад +1

      🌬️

    • @Arcwol
      @Arcwol 19 дней назад +7

      @@kobusg7460 Boeing is failing because they went woke? 🤣🤣

    • @SpaceflightExplained
      @SpaceflightExplained 19 дней назад +5

      ​@@Arcwol These folks are brilliant aren't they

    • @codefeenix
      @codefeenix 18 дней назад

      boeing makes your freedom sustainable. their missiles makes you a free citizen

  • @JigilJigil
    @JigilJigil 19 дней назад +134

    There are two space companies, both from the *same country,* both were asked to make a spacecaft, one made it cheap and prefect without delays, the other one made it expensive and defected with delays, how? and why?

    • @ZiggyMercury
      @ZiggyMercury 19 дней назад +7

      How do you know the one from SpaceX is "perfect"?

    • @shankars6324
      @shankars6324 19 дней назад +56

      ​@@ZiggyMercury nothing is perfect, but Spacex has the edge.
      Their falcon9 launch system has the record for consecutive successful launches and the dragon2 capsule has completed many missions (including 10 crewed missions).

    • @ChristinaHogan-hb1gc
      @ChristinaHogan-hb1gc 19 дней назад

      Its been proven many times​@@ZiggyMercury

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. 19 дней назад +20

      Political kickbacks, corruption.

    • @kristensorensen2219
      @kristensorensen2219 19 дней назад +8

      Arrogance🤷😤

  • @rubenjaimes1194
    @rubenjaimes1194 19 дней назад +78

    One of the astronauts must have been a whistle blower. 😂

  • @dannyarcher6370
    @dannyarcher6370 19 дней назад +87

    If it’s Boeing, you ain’t going…
    …home.

  • @DamBevers
    @DamBevers 19 дней назад +114

    This might aught to be the final nail in Boeing’s coffin. Boeing has lost its credibility and reputation for safety and reliability. At the same time, we all became aware of its executives’ culture of grift and short term thinking. Should the company be trusted as a government supplier of any product, let alone aerospace and defence? Perhaps it’s time to break Boeing up into smaller companies, to distribute management and accountability, before one more person dies as a result of Boeing’s endemic incompetence and negligence?

    • @astrofpv3631
      @astrofpv3631 19 дней назад +12

      Too big to fail

    • @MikeJones-mf2fw
      @MikeJones-mf2fw 19 дней назад +1

      Well said

    • @hobbes5043
      @hobbes5043 19 дней назад

      Can I have one of those pieces?

    • @robb5828
      @robb5828 19 дней назад

      @@astrofpv3631 Yeah...Nokia

    • @gettotheGate
      @gettotheGate 18 дней назад +5

      I suggest naming two of those broken up pieces North American Aviation and McDonnell Douglas. No particular reason.

  • @mazzy6559
    @mazzy6559 19 дней назад +49

    My uncle worked for Boeing as an engineer and left many years ago because the company was not run well. Just putting that out there

    • @KironManuelCards
      @KironManuelCards 19 дней назад +1

      It is all over the news. Boeing is not doing well now

    • @EricLee-xm5pk
      @EricLee-xm5pk 19 дней назад +1

      He should try to apply for space x or other countries rocket companies.

    • @stachowi
      @stachowi 19 дней назад +2

      I left Boeing 12 years ago… bad management

    • @charleskavoukjian3441
      @charleskavoukjian3441 18 дней назад

      Hopefully he’s somewhere safe and hasn’t spoken out publicly.

    • @charleskavoukjian3441
      @charleskavoukjian3441 18 дней назад

      @@stachowi SpaceX is growing like crazy, if you want a front row seat into the future you could apply there.

  • @DaveAlexKD
    @DaveAlexKD 19 дней назад +180

    "Elon Musk please save us we are too incompetent to build a safe capsule!!" - Boeing

    • @RandomPerson-V
      @RandomPerson-V 19 дней назад

      Musk is very incompetent. SpaceX got successful because they hired people who are actually competent.

    • @capotegabriel
      @capotegabriel 3 дня назад

      Elon Musk is a socialist that loves dictators.

  • @003SOK
    @003SOK 19 дней назад +44

    i was just talking to a friend about this and literally said "there's no way Boeing will return on a Space X craft, unless they had to".
    looks like they had to. unbelievable they didn't have a backup plan.

  • @thienle491
    @thienle491 19 дней назад +40

    Just tell Boeing both are whistleblowers, they'll find a way.

  • @ZiggyMercury
    @ZiggyMercury 19 дней назад +160

    This smells a bit like the Columbia disaster of 20023, and it seems to me that NASA has decided - and I salute them for it - not to take the same risks they took with Columbia (especially since they don't have to): with Columbia, there were people inside NASA who warned that the foam strike seen shortly after take off may be detrimental, but the higher-ups in NASA didn't do anything about it. Turns out the foam strike was, indeed, detrimental, and Columbia's crew burned to death upon re-entry. Now, the only "saving grace" for NASA's management from 2003 is that their ability to do something about it (if they decided not to ignore the foam strike) was very limited at best, and non-existent at worst. This time it's different, and I'm glad that NASA doesn't just choose to roll the dice with the lives of these two astronauts.

    • @evanfinch4987
      @evanfinch4987 19 дней назад +3

      Smells nothing like Columbia.

    • @TectonicTechnomancer
      @TectonicTechnomancer 19 дней назад +6

      Is way different, main issue here is lack of pressure in the engines, which isn't really a big deal, but can have a catastrophic result, Columbia was kinda unavoidable, it was an accident and once you launch the shuttle there is no abort.
      Starliner have a lot of ways to solve this issue, Nasa decided to do the safest thing and return unmanned, but the most likely scenario is that the capsule performs the reentry without issues, since they already "fixed" many of the issues with the thrusters.

    • @Unbaguettable
      @Unbaguettable 19 дней назад +4

      ​@@evanfinch4987 It is quite similar to Columbia. However in this case, NASA has learnt from the mistakes of Challenger and Columbia, and have urged engineers to come forward with their opinions. The engineers thought that it would be unsafe - so NASA is following that advice.

    • @joek511
      @joek511 19 дней назад

      They didn't burn up. That would have been better. They survived the breakup, and died when the cabin hit the water. There was a plan to make the cabin much like a fighter cockpit (ejection) in an emergency, with parachutes to bring it down safely. Due to additional (weight and cost) required for such a system, it was rejected. Sad but true, they were alive until they hit the water. All the astronauts were recovered.

    • @okaaycrypto5128
      @okaaycrypto5128 19 дней назад +1

      20023!?

  • @htvlogs80
    @htvlogs80 18 дней назад +7

    Boeing has a CEO that’s business first minded. SpaceX has a CEO who’s an actual Engineer that has the passion for space.

    • @24-7gpts
      @24-7gpts 16 дней назад +1

      Yeah I love SpaceX

  • @ModelAaliyahAustin-i8o
    @ModelAaliyahAustin-i8o 19 дней назад +125

    Boeing taking nothing but L the last several years. If it was my life I would definitely take space x over Boeing. It sure seems like Boeing has lost its way. Maybe to many cooks in the kitchen or too many different projects at once. Civilian Planes, military contracts, and space.

    • @wally7856
      @wally7856 19 дней назад +19

      I don't understand what went wrong. Boeing had their best accountants working on this project.

    • @tbrws
      @tbrws 18 дней назад +2

      At least its reflected in their stock price too. Crashing seems to be their new company motto.

    • @SeeScottWrite
      @SeeScottWrite 18 дней назад

      The company stopped making everything in Seattle and their quality plummeted.

    • @philipthecow
      @philipthecow 17 дней назад

      @@SeeScottWrite Lol, I think Boeing purposefully moved their HQ to Chicago so that upper management wouldn't get dragged into engineering problems.

    • @qingjie3844
      @qingjie3844 17 дней назад

      There were several companies compete each other before the end of cold war. Some how the government allowed them to merge into the different Boeing we are seeing today.

  • @royrice8021
    @royrice8021 19 дней назад +14

    “If it’s Boeing I’m Not Going” 2024 change of motto.

    • @Guy-cb1oh
      @Guy-cb1oh 17 дней назад +2

      The Astronauts stuck in space: "It's Boeing so We're not going."

  • @bakerkawesa
    @bakerkawesa 19 дней назад +36

    Boeing has been on a pedestal for far too long.

  • @jackjackthompson5771
    @jackjackthompson5771 19 дней назад +31

    Gotta love how the professor says that Boeings failure is really great cause it gives them an opportunity to recover! Wow!

    • @thejayzed
      @thejayzed 19 дней назад +17

      It sure sounds like that professor has a consulting job with Boeing

    • @winterinvicta
      @winterinvicta 19 дней назад +4

      Failure is great when it’s not the real thing.

    • @kineticdeath
      @kineticdeath 19 дней назад +5

      same guy will be on tv after a 777X engine pylon falls off in flight "they will bounce right back from this!"

    • @benjiunofficial
      @benjiunofficial 19 дней назад +4

      Michael Massimino is a former astronaut too. A lot of these older retired astronauts are real oldspace promoters, pretty set in their ways. It's different with active duty astronauts from what I've read.

    • @RandomPerson-V
      @RandomPerson-V 19 дней назад +6

      Failures can be useful if they can properly learn from it, however their history with the Starliner suggests otherwise...

  • @fungiblefinance1027
    @fungiblefinance1027 19 дней назад +14

    Giligan’s Space Station. It was only supposed to be a 192 hour tour, a 192 hour tour…

  • @HelloHi-g2u
    @HelloHi-g2u 19 дней назад +36

    Oh wow I am so surprised 😐

  • @DaydreamingTrack
    @DaydreamingTrack 19 дней назад +8

    At thus stage Space X only competition is Space X

  • @allanau
    @allanau 19 дней назад +30

    I feel SpaceX won but NASA can’t say it because of partnership/money.

    • @RandomPerson-V
      @RandomPerson-V 19 дней назад +11

      Everyone knows they won, having both options available is what NASA wants.

    • @winterinvicta
      @winterinvicta 19 дней назад +2

      @@RandomPerson-VMaybe that option shouldn’t be Boeing…

    • @Hanno300bc
      @Hanno300bc 19 дней назад +1

      ​@@winterinvicta What do you propose? That NASA says goodbye to 4 billion or whatever they gave them and ask a new company to start from scratch. That would take another decade.

    • @winterinvicta
      @winterinvicta 19 дней назад

      @@Hanno300bc Fair point.

    • @charleskavoukjian3441
      @charleskavoukjian3441 18 дней назад +1

      They launched almost 100 rockets last year. I don’t think NASA and Boeing combined have done that since their founding.

  • @georgecharleston8532
    @georgecharleston8532 19 дней назад +67

    We would still be begging the Russians for a ride to space without Space X!

    • @jobturkey7418
      @jobturkey7418 18 дней назад

      Yeah the Chinese are stealing their tech as we speak though

    • @sarkaranish
      @sarkaranish 18 дней назад

      and because of that, the russians are angry that the "American broomstick" is saving NASA! Roscosmos is in the dumps right now and they're close to failing because of Spacex

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil 16 дней назад

      Yeah that's the crux of the issue all the Musk-haters conveniently ignore. If it weren't for SpaceX, we'd still be hitchhiking on Soyuz capsules, directly financing the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

  • @bjkjoseph
    @bjkjoseph 19 дней назад +54

    The people on the top that got away with destroying Boeing need to be held accountable. Anything short of jail is not accountability. They need to go to jail.

    • @leeswecho
      @leeswecho 19 дней назад

      you do realize, the problem is *us* , right? Because the shareholders, the ones that Boeing CEOs must prostrate themselves, legally, fiduciary, before the altar of, are ourselves? Our retirement and investment funds?

    • @bjkjoseph
      @bjkjoseph 19 дней назад +6

      @@leeswecho by them taking shortcuts and outright lying on safety test do you really think that helped the shareholders? Do you think the stock is up?

    • @endlessendless2391
      @endlessendless2391 19 дней назад

      Shareholders may have pressured them for maximizing profits at the cost of safety and innovation. They need to be held accountable as well.

  • @nightbeezer
    @nightbeezer 19 дней назад +9

    At the time they were extremely hostile towards SpaceX. Now they say that they want two companies in the field.

  • @dubzillaaaa
    @dubzillaaaa 19 дней назад +4

    It’s starting to make a whole lot of sense why V-22s crash all the time.

    • @omuani
      @omuani 4 дня назад

      Great point!

  • @seanhsieh4149
    @seanhsieh4149 19 дней назад +10

    Let’s pray and hope that they are able to return to earth safely, amen.

    • @philipthecow
      @philipthecow 17 дней назад +3

      Don't worry, they will return to earth.

  • @JeremyDeBose
    @JeremyDeBose 18 дней назад +4

    Astronauts know there’s risk, but I can’t imagine being in the Gilligan’s Island situation. 8 day trip turns into 8 months. Takes a lot of mental toughness.

  • @JohnShawOhio
    @JohnShawOhio 19 дней назад +10

    What sound does a space craft when it crashes into the earth? Boe--ing!

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. 19 дней назад +11

    4:18 "Boeing has now flown...half of one"
    Dude, that's like a short king saying they're 5ft 6 and a half

  • @buggaboo333
    @buggaboo333 19 дней назад +5

    Boeing: "We are willing to take the risk with the astronaut's lives." I find it funny Boeing said the "data" support using Starliner. Really? Constant real-world failures on this vehicle, but let's look at the paper data.

  • @MonkeySocs
    @MonkeySocs 19 дней назад +7

    Corporate greed over quality and safety is a stain on Boeing

  • @andreylucass
    @andreylucass 19 дней назад +23

    You may hate Musk, but just look at Boeing

    • @georgecharleston8532
      @georgecharleston8532 19 дней назад +14

      I love Musk.

    • @RandomPerson-V
      @RandomPerson-V 19 дней назад +3

      SpaceX and Musk aren't synonyms.

    • @czarnick123
      @czarnick123 19 дней назад +6

      @@RandomPerson-V They are though

    • @joshuawarrington9417
      @joshuawarrington9417 19 дней назад +2

      they aren't tho

    • @czarnick123
      @czarnick123 18 дней назад +3

      @@joshuawarrington9417 You have to ignore reality to make this worldview work. If hiring smart people were the unusual variable at spacex, every other space startup would be doing well.

  • @samsonrene1
    @samsonrene1 19 дней назад +6

    Corporate greed will never beat great engineering.

  • @Drew_001
    @Drew_001 19 дней назад +28

    This is one of the most unacceptable things to ever happen in American astronautics history.

    • @TheRadioAteMyTV
      @TheRadioAteMyTV 19 дней назад +2

      One of, but not the only. The burning capsule with Gus Grissam, the o-ring on the Challenger were just as bad. At least no one died in this one.

  • @Martin-dz7gy
    @Martin-dz7gy 19 дней назад +5

    Forgot to mention how Boeing got almost twice the amount of money than SpaceX dor the crew transport program

  • @accumulator5734
    @accumulator5734 19 дней назад +4

    Have u seen Boeing’s leadership, Boeing is about maximizing profits not about engineering safe and reliable spacecraft…

  • @nizamieminov3648
    @nizamieminov3648 19 дней назад +3

    if the psychological state of the stranded astronauts start to deteriorate then it will be a really bad situation.

  • @kyledodge5513
    @kyledodge5513 19 дней назад +2

    "Boeing says it's ready to go" astronauts turn and look at each other with concerned looks "I can't believe I'm saying this, but can someone call Elon?"

  • @sivachandanchakka6183
    @sivachandanchakka6183 18 дней назад +3

    Too many “business” folks running an engineering company does that to you

  • @imsroy
    @imsroy 19 дней назад +2

    Shouldn't have broken up with Russia. Their Soyuz is a time tested vehicle.

    • @shsd4130
      @shsd4130 19 дней назад

      Crew Dragon is way better than Soyuz. But yeah, obviously Soyuz is a thousand times better than Starliner right now.
      All of that said, NASA and Roscosmos haven't really broken up. They're still doing seat swaps.

  • @aerohk
    @aerohk 19 дней назад +3

    Just cancelled my upcoming flight on a Boeing 787. Will be shopping for an Airbus flight instead.

    • @MrKentaroMotoPI
      @MrKentaroMotoPI 19 дней назад

      Brilliant suicide idea. Airbus has a poor safety record compared to Boeing.

    • @JamesSchwarberg-xm3ox
      @JamesSchwarberg-xm3ox 16 дней назад

      Cmon, you know that 787 is definitely coming back to earth. lol

  • @swizzle876
    @swizzle876 19 дней назад +52

    Why didn't they use SpaceX from day one instead of Boeing? 🤔

    • @AntoineCampbell
      @AntoineCampbell 19 дней назад +34

      Because they paid Boeing billions of dollars to do this project

    • @kxmalahov
      @kxmalahov 19 дней назад

      starliner?

    • @schmidthappensmedia
      @schmidthappensmedia 19 дней назад +27

      did you watch the video? They literally said they hired both companies so they could have multiple options to take astronauts to the space station.

    • @JingJao
      @JingJao 19 дней назад +15

      To have competition between the 2. If you have competition, ideally they will fight each other to improve and create the best product. That's how it is supposed to work.
      But, clearly, SpaceX just has better talent and resources. They should've chosen a different competitor like Blue Origin

    • @Scarsofevil
      @Scarsofevil 19 дней назад

      They plan this years in advance before SpaceX was even as mature as they are today.

  • @kristensorensen2219
    @kristensorensen2219 19 дней назад +8

    Unfortunatly Boeing is unreliable. They were great for so long this new reality hasn't sunk in yet.

    • @TheRadioAteMyTV
      @TheRadioAteMyTV 19 дней назад

      Replace Boeing with US Congress and it still works.

  • @HelloWorld-pc3ku
    @HelloWorld-pc3ku 17 дней назад +2

    Boeing can’t even focus properly on its plane problems and they want to hop onto space 😂

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 15 дней назад

      Hello?? Boeing has been involved with developing rockets to space for 50 + years, they didn't just "hop onto space". It is their management structure that has broken down ever since the Boeing/McDonald Douglas merger and engineering has suffered.

  • @stephengarfield4691
    @stephengarfield4691 19 дней назад +4

    The question should be focused on leadership. What is going on at the top at Boeing?

    • @TheReal_JG
      @TheReal_JG 19 дней назад

      The old CEO just got fired and the position got replaced by a former engineer. Maybe promising, but idk.

  • @matthewsutphin7508
    @matthewsutphin7508 17 дней назад +1

    I'd rather b stuck in space, than trapped on this planet

  • @oLevLovesLove
    @oLevLovesLove 19 дней назад +8

    You know they didn't bring extra underwear.

    • @TheRadioAteMyTV
      @TheRadioAteMyTV 19 дней назад

      Nor did they think they would be celibate for 8 months out of nowhere, and forget about Christmas.

    • @robbannstrom
      @robbannstrom 19 дней назад

      I've been thinking along those lines for a couple weeks now... I'm guessing they'd have to wash the ones they've got, but the opportunities to do so on board the ISS are limited, to say the least...

  • @konadasoujaniya1880
    @konadasoujaniya1880 19 дней назад +1

    I just pray they come back safely. That’s it !! Their families are waiting for them.

  • @oakspines7171
    @oakspines7171 19 дней назад +4

    If the Starliner comes back to earth fine without the astronauts, it would be a life saver for this Boeing program.

    • @TheRadioAteMyTV
      @TheRadioAteMyTV 19 дней назад +1

      Will we ever know if that happens with honesty though? We are not in a time of trust worthy comments.

    • @RKNGL
      @RKNGL 17 дней назад +1

      ​@@TheRadioAteMyTV If it goes boom, it goes boom if it comes back usable then we'll see launched again. Simple as.

  • @WxOkie
    @WxOkie 19 дней назад +1

    Makes you appreciate the accomplishments made by SpaceX.

  • @ThugByChoice
    @ThugByChoice 19 дней назад +3

    Finally, they should have left it up to the professionals in the first place.

  • @SDGreg
    @SDGreg 19 дней назад +1

    If we step back and look at the situation. I am not sure there has ever occurred a situation with US astronauts that a US crew vehicle has had a issue in orbit and NASA has a completely different US crewed vehicle available to return that crew. Just shows you how much crewed spaceflight has changed in the last decade+.

  • @usrmtc1601
    @usrmtc1601 19 дней назад +16

    Somebody is using DEI, and Somebody is not

  • @tpzoso
    @tpzoso 19 дней назад +2

    So sad how this mission has perfectly reflected Boeings internal struggles. There is no replacement for quality control but they keep cutting it

  • @WendyMARCUMWYNN
    @WendyMARCUMWYNN 19 дней назад +6

    Elon to the rescue

    • @KOJOSLIM007-so6cj
      @KOJOSLIM007-so6cj 19 дней назад

      GOD TRUMP MUSK RFK TO THE RESCUE WENDY DARLING; THE CALVARY IS COMING

  • @yammt3148
    @yammt3148 18 дней назад +1

    Boeing needs all their contracts voided until they get a grip.

  • @Overmotor
    @Overmotor 19 дней назад +21

    SpaceX ftw! This is what happens when you have company not bogged down with bureaucracy and red tape, they are actually able to deliver on their product! SpaceX, Blue Origin, Sierra Space, Rocket Lab and others like them will be the future of space exploration.

  • @rykbrown1893
    @rykbrown1893 19 дней назад

    I'm thinking that when you start using the term "buckets" to categorize problems, you've got too many.

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. 19 дней назад +13

    If it's Boeing, it ain't going (back, with humans)

  • @ChevyRob313
    @ChevyRob313 15 дней назад

    Glad you didn’t use the headline stranded in space. Glad you have integrity and common sense

  • @ReesesCupsable
    @ReesesCupsable 19 дней назад +3

    Boeing literally Gillian’s Island the astronaut’s 😂

    • @robbannstrom
      @robbannstrom 19 дней назад

      Did you just make "Gillians Island" a *_verb_* ?

  • @thomasandrews7123
    @thomasandrews7123 17 дней назад

    Great summary of the history and issues along the way. Next up is Starliner’s uncrewed return. There will be significant learning from that event to help inform what changes are needed to improve Starliner before another crewed mission to ISS.

  • @xandr13
    @xandr13 19 дней назад +3

    Thank gods it was leaks that were the problem. Boeing sure knows how to handle those.

  • @aucontraire1986
    @aucontraire1986 18 дней назад +1

    One hires engineers and the other hires lawyers and business people. It’s no surprise.

  • @sixpounder15985
    @sixpounder15985 19 дней назад +3

    Michael Massimino message in this interview: hello Boeing … I can play ball for you … get me into your C suite

  • @josbertoromero2927
    @josbertoromero2927 18 дней назад +2

    This is what happen when you let BlackRock and Vanguard MBAs to run an engineering company.

  • @AndreaDoesYoga
    @AndreaDoesYoga 19 дней назад +4

    Impressive teamwork, SpaceX and NASA! 🚀

  • @dmacfpv8410
    @dmacfpv8410 19 дней назад +1

    Here's a thought, NASA, next mission just use Boeing to get the coffee and leave the space stuff to the professional!

  • @sokolum
    @sokolum 19 дней назад +5

    Downfall of Boeing…..

  • @fabianmckenna8197
    @fabianmckenna8197 19 дней назад +1

    “We’re in a kind of a new situation here and that we’ve got multiple options,” said Ken Bowersox, associate administrator for NASA’s Space Operations Mission Directorate, on August 7. “That’s something that we’re going to have to deal with in the future - we could find ourselves in a situation where we need to bring a (SpaceX) Dragon crew or a (Russian) Soyuz crew back on a Starliner."
    Wow....... Boeing have failed miserably with their first proper Starliner flight but NASA are pointing out how the same company will be out there rescuing SpaceX or Russian crews.

  • @ismailnyeyusof3520
    @ismailnyeyusof3520 19 дней назад +3

    I have an MBA myself but after looking at how SpaceX works, I’m convinced the real issue with Boeing is that pandering to shareholders dividends means taking a safety approach over risk taking every time. Safety is indeed critical but there’s a whole science behind risk management that delivers top not safety as SpaceX shows which allows them to continue innovative approaches to greater services. Boeing could never have dared to design and incorporate a transparent dome over their Calypso spacecraft the way SpaceX did for the Dragon capsule!

  • @SarcasticLampr4y
    @SarcasticLampr4y 19 дней назад +2

    Boeing were given 5 billion to make starliner, Musk was given 1.5 billion for Dragon. and have done a 20x better product. Up with startups, down with big defence companies.

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 15 дней назад

      Your figures are off and not by a little. Space X was awarded 2.6 billion to design and build Dragon. Boeing was awarded 4.2 billion to design and build Starliner. Boeing also spent at least 1.4 billion more to get Starliner flight worthy and still couldn't get it right. The engineering culture at Boeing has apparently suffered because of poor management oversight.

  • @SeiyaSoiya-un4jj
    @SeiyaSoiya-un4jj 19 дней назад +5

    Once again, private enterprise must do what government cannot. Keep giving them your tax dollars, folks! It’s working out soooo well. 😂

    • @reasonforlife214
      @reasonforlife214 19 дней назад

      Boeing is a private enterprise

    • @Hans-gb4mv
      @Hans-gb4mv 19 дней назад

      Last time I checked, Boeing is a private company.

    • @tma2001
      @tma2001 19 дней назад

      did you watch the video ? its a fixed price contract which Boeing has made a $1.4B loss on so far ...

  • @David_7171
    @David_7171 14 дней назад

    First Boeing lost to Lockheed Martin with respect to the F35. Now Boeing is losing to SpaceX. This must bring back painful memories.

  • @cesarjlisboa7586
    @cesarjlisboa7586 19 дней назад +15

    NASA needs to have an option besides space X.

    • @unotechrih8040
      @unotechrih8040 19 дней назад +16

      Yes, but they also need a spacecraft that actually works, which Boeing is not capable of supplying.

    • @DaveAlexKD
      @DaveAlexKD 19 дней назад +9

      They had one it was starliner LOL

    • @haiscore2614
      @haiscore2614 19 дней назад +13

      Why? SpaceX actually delivers working solutions. Wasting the already limited NASA funds for "more options" is a bad move.

    • @RandomPerson-V
      @RandomPerson-V 19 дней назад +2

      ​@@haiscore2614Makes sense, but the US might need an backup just in case if there would be an issue with the Crew Dragon capsule at a time where it might not be an good idea to ask Russia for a Soyuz flight. (Probably the worst case scenario)
      The biggest issue however comes from people who doesn't know much about SpaceX or people who hate them in spite of Musk. (Because they're not capable of realizing that those two are not synonyms)

    • @michaelscott5653
      @michaelscott5653 19 дней назад

      Having a fully functioning rocket ship is more important than having a bunch of mediocre choices.

  • @jeffhsu7027
    @jeffhsu7027 17 дней назад +1

    If it’s a Boeing, it ain’t flying

  • @chatmall
    @chatmall 19 дней назад

    Great document.
    Very informative,
    Thank you
    DB

  • @zacharyfinch1230
    @zacharyfinch1230 19 дней назад +8

    This doesn’t only make Boeing look bad, but also NASA. They waited over 6 months before they finally swallowed their pride and asked for help

    • @robbannstrom
      @robbannstrom 19 дней назад +1

      Well, to be fair, NASA is beholden to Congress for all of its' funding. Ruffling too many feathers, too early in the game, would not be a wise decision.

    • @BrotherCheng
      @BrotherCheng 19 дней назад +4

      NASA was already privately coordinating with SpaceX (and other stakeholders) on planning this out months ago. This was just the final decision that was made and announced. It's not like they are only now starting to shuffle the Crew Dragon missions around. It also took time to gather data (e.g. the White Sands thruster tests) before the data came back and it helped them make the decision. They knew they had time to gather the data because the astronauts aren't really in any danger and don't need to be "rescued" ASAP.
      It's also not like they are begging SpaceX to send a spacecraft to help them anyway. SpaceX already has a Crew Dragon on the schedule to deliver 4 astronauts and goods to the ISS. NASA is the customer of that and gets to ask for change in the manifest, so they are pulling 2 NASA astronauts off that trip to give room for the 2 astronauts they need to take home but those are missions that NASA is already paying for to begin with.

  • @brucegelman5582
    @brucegelman5582 19 дней назад

    Can we all breathe a sigh of relief that they made it to the ISS.Thank the stars.

  • @Robert-fx3ng
    @Robert-fx3ng 19 дней назад +16

    Boeing, “DEI is our strength”. MLK “judged on our character and not the color of our skin”

  • @firewalkerjon
    @firewalkerjon 18 дней назад

    There were no Boeing representatives at the announcement of the February return. NASA said their presence wasn't needed...

  • @FrankGallagherr
    @FrankGallagherr 19 дней назад +10

    Elon is the greatest man of this generation

    • @RandomPerson-V
      @RandomPerson-V 19 дней назад

      He just got lucky

    • @Hanno300bc
      @Hanno300bc 19 дней назад

      Before he started meddling in politics.....

    • @mcfly7
      @mcfly7 13 дней назад

      Wake up! Elon Musk is just a actor. He is a simple muppet promotor.

    • @Hanno300bc
      @Hanno300bc 13 дней назад

      @@mcfly7 He is a rich narcissist.

  • @ForestGigaChad34
    @ForestGigaChad34 17 дней назад

    Boeing and NASA coping hard with a track record of failures with Starliner

  • @antoniosantiago9794
    @antoniosantiago9794 19 дней назад +8

    GOD BLESS SPACE-X AND ELON MUSK!
    PLEASE VOTE FOR TRUMP AND VANCE TO
    STOP THE THREAT TO OUR FREEDOM
    AND DEMOCRACY! THANKS TO RFK JR.!

  • @ShimpShomp-pv8ye
    @ShimpShomp-pv8ye 19 дней назад

    Michael Massimino sounds so much Neil...had to take my phone out of my pocket to check the man!

  • @ifechukwuokekenwa8004
    @ifechukwuokekenwa8004 19 дней назад +4

    Boeing.. What a disgrace?

  • @mahasish
    @mahasish 19 дней назад +1

    Such a matter of shame for Boeing. One of the established company has to seek help from a startup.

  • @oliverezequieltimburwa6345
    @oliverezequieltimburwa6345 19 дней назад +8

    The problems with NASA and Boeing is DEI hires. The two companies have become so incompetent.

    • @oliverezequieltimburwa6345
      @oliverezequieltimburwa6345 19 дней назад

      It a reality check. These companies seam to be copying from Russian Space Programs. Now its all a failure after another failure.