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Comparing The Addams Family Sitcom and 90s Movies
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Raul Julia was so criminally underrated as an actor. He was phenomenal!
Raul is and will always be the actor. His charm and grace and his spirit.
OF COURSE!
@@mafeuk I love you for saying that 🥰
"For you, the Day Bison graced your Village was the most Important day of your life. But for me?..... It was TUESDAY...."
Yes! Such a tragedy that we lost him so young
It's funny to see people use 'Morticia Addams' used as an insult when:
1. She's Fabulously wealthy
2. She Has a Loving and adoring husband that shares parental duties
3. She possesses An Elegant and Gothic attitude that exudes confidence
4. She's Sexually Confident in her 40s
Who uses it as an insult?
Women should be sexual confident by 40... shouldn't they?
40s ? Isn't she 400s?
How very ageist to assume she's a sweet young thang.
@@bailegatita Well I did asume that Morticia was in her 40s like Angelica Huston was in the early 1990s
@@harrihaffi2713 I remember an episode of Bones where Dr Brennan gets dismissively called 'Morticia' by other people at her School reunion.
@@eamonndeane587 oh! Cool
“Pastels” is 100% the most brutal cut down in film history
The delivery of that line deserves an Oscar all by itself
And the thing is that Debbie could have fit in perfectly with this family. If only she could just see it...
fil?
@@ritanichole in some scenes, she kind of gels with them. And they were sympathetic to her. I'm partly (more) joking but there's a version on which Debbie is the preppy goth member of this group.
It was the most amazing read. Everyone inspires to the level of distaste in those syllables.
My favourite thing about Gomez and Morticia (and the family in general really) is how that passion and love they have for each other really IS more healthy than 90 percent of the fake, smiling, "perfect couples" they come into contact with. Nobody pretends to like something they don't like in the family; and their attraction to each other is honest and real rather than performative like most of stereotypical suburbia- it's just wrapped in a gothic front so people automatically prejudge them for it.
Yes yes we've all seen the copypasta
Kinda sad..
Gomez and Morticia.....relationship goals
That was always my take of them,as popular as family shows like the brady bunch,etc,I always thought of the Addams family as true family values with a macabre twist
Well except for Wednesday's treatment of Pugsley and Pubert lol
A standout memory of the classic show was the episode Green-eyed Gomez, and how they both think the other is interested in someone else but they basically come to the same conclusion that they rather their partner be happy with someone else than be miserable with them. Obviously, they realize the mistake and stay together but it’s that attitude of putting the other person first and not being selfish in a marriage that imprinted on me when I was very young, so that’s why this couple is always #goals
Oh and this is the best song made by sampling the Addams family values ruclips.net/video/qnGnj_e6gBw/видео.html
That’s awesome!!
Just thought I'd let you know, there's a word for that. Compersion is the contented sense of fulfilment one feels when one's friend or partner enjoys the company of another person. It's kinda the opposite of jealousy.
It's definitely a indictment of society in general and the patriarchy in particular, that Gomez being so supposedly weird and abnormal, not only genuinely loves his wife, but he loves her more than he loves himself.
@@Scientision That doesn't sound like an indictment of the patriarchy to me. Just society and how marriages usually tend to go these days.
That "they had sex" scene is pitch perfect comedy. From set-up, delivery, right to the punchline
PERFECT!
it's a good one.
I also love the delivery of the lines from the other girl. She's the exact amount of chipper and naive and earnest, and annoying. :P
even just how the camera moves is amazing, the addams family is truly the best
I love Pugsley's little 'can you believe this?' look, too.
"I would die for her. I would kill for her. Either way -- what bliss.”
Now THAT is love! 💜
I'm reminded of a SIMPSONS scene where Homer said, "I would die for you, Marge-- I would KILL for you. PLEASE let me KILL for you!"
I will never recover from the fact that the all the humor in the original Addams Family stemmed from the established context that they were a happy family.
In post WW2 America that was the joke.
That this macabre looking family that was aesthetically the complete opposite of the average white middle class family unit was happy. That while Morticia and Gomez actually LOVED each other and their children, the traditional perfectly normal family down the road was miserable in reality. It drove home the concept that true happiness was rooted in anti-conformity.
Debbie Jelinsky! If she weren't so wrapped up in herself, then she'd have realized she found her people. I mean, trying to kill Fester??? That's foreplay! He'd be all over that.
Like the gal who married Cousin It!
I love that sideplot.
@@ZapDash "What."
"I'm Sorry?"
"That's the Baby's Nickname...What..."
She really is one of them
Big rapey problem: she didn't like him. She was revolted by him touching her. That scene where she allows him to do it to her because she wants the big plan to go ahead is super gross and hopefully wouldn't be in a kid movie today. I wish she'd just been given a lot of money by Morticia and then just turned into the Cool Aunt without having to deal with Fester, cos yes, she's a perfect addition to the family.
@@eamonndeane587 I forgot about that exchange, but now I want to see an Addams take on the "Who's on First" routine.
Interesting how Cher was actually considered to play both the Grand High Witch and Morticia but both roles ultimately went to Anjelica Huston, not that I'm complaining.
I think that’s really more about demand during that period in Hollywood than some hidden connection between the two actresses. Cher was the “it” girl of the late 80’s. Everyone wanted either Cher, Meryl, Kim Bassinger or Sally Field to be in their movie so they all ended up being considered for the same roles. Kind of like how a few years ago every Oscar drama was written with either Jennifer Lawrence or Emma Stone in mind.
I read somewhere that Eartha Kitt was considered for the role of the GHW.
Conversely interesting is that in the film The Witches of Eastwick the role that Cher got was originally intended for Anjelica Huston!
In this review, it was quoted that Cher would unbalance the film, and the narrator said, "what ever that means." I think it means that instead of being "The Addams Family", it would be, "Cher in the Addams Family".
I would die to see Cher as Morticia, she would be amazing
On a side note, Joan Cusack is one of the most underappreciated actresses of our lifetime. She is utterly amazing in everything she's ever done, and it baffles me that there are people walking around out there who don't recognize anywhere near as much as even her brother, John.
"It's not even leather!"
@@dannycarrington1601 "Hi. Will you marry me? I've got the dress already, I've got the plane tickets, and I'm all packed!"
This is so true
@@dannycarrington1601 "Is EVERYBODY gay?!?!?!"
Loved her as the stuck up principal with a passion for Stevie Nicks in School of rock
“Christina Ricci who if you could argue was formed in a test tube somewhere specifically to play Wednesday Addams.” - Lindsay Ellis
That sentence doesn't even make sense.
@@Ididnotwanttojoin yeah i think the "if" shouldn't be there
@@fossilfighters101 Yup, I think you're right.
@@Ididnotwanttojoin it’s in quotes because it’s taken out of context there’s obviously more to the sentence but it isn’t relevant to the current conversation
@@imbuffysummers Not the point. The "if" that is on there doesn't belong and therefore the sentence makes no sense.
There's something to be said about the fact that the Addams Family isn't actually modern. They're old world. Very old world. Their home is victorian, their hobbies are victorian. Gomez would be better suited in a men's adventure club, travelling the world and hunting various animals. I think that's interesting particularly because that was the people of the 50s grandparents' grandparents' time. It makes me think of the dichotomy between the two leads in Sunset Boulevard. The "modern" young man and woman as compared to the silent film star. The difference between the things each of them loved and the things they surrounded themselves was very stark. It's an interesting choice that I think was meant to lend to their mystique, but also weirdly feels like a commentary on the 50s being maybe less fun and adventerous than generations before them? I'm not sure. It's just cool.
This! The bit about collecting items across different non-white cultures actually reminded me of how the homes of colonial officers are described. So not sure about it being a commentary on the 50s being less fun, but it definitely is romanticising Victorian grandeur, atleast against American capitalistic households
@@neeliknowsnothing Romanticizing! Yes! That's exactly what I wasn't able to articulate. That kind looking back that glamorizes the past.
Keep in mind this person is trying to put it in the lense of modern sensibilities.
@@sashmiel6566 Sure, but that doesn't mean there's not value in exploring outside the lens of this video! Half the fun of video essays is that they introduce something you haven't thought of. That's usually meant to open a door to thinking about a thing in a new way.
yes, exactly. I was a bit on the fence about some things said about the tv show because while yes, they were 'non-conforming' to the norms of the 60's, they were still pretty much not "progressive" either, especially when it comes to non-white cultures.
The Addams family of the 60s feel like they came from an alternate dimension where racial barriers were never a thing. Where cultures were left in bubbles to grow and be unique, and they get to appreciate the unique qualities. They are genuinely confused and surprised by others fear of it, because they have never lived in a world where it's a problem. They feel more aspirational in an impossible way. The Addams family of the 90s, however, is very aware of the history, of people fears, and choose be separate from society because of it. They somehow feel more real.
Also fun fact: the original Uncle Fester was played by Jackie Coogan, the "kid" in Charlie Chaplin's "The Kid". The law in California that is meant to protect child actors' earnings is named after him.
Both versions have their advantages, though I do like the 60s version a bit more. Their house doesn't look run down, just old and well maintained, even when they break things inside it on a daily basis they get it fixed. I also like their peppy attitudes clashing with the more spooky vibe, they're just people who like different things. The 90s version just exaggerated the dark and gothic elements, but that in itself has it's own charm and shows the different styles between each era. I'll always prefer 90s Wednesday due to Christina Ricci though, some actors really make the character their own and she did exactly that.
Aspirational indeed. One of my favorite original eps is the one where the runaway biker rebel kid finds love and acceptance in the Addams home, compared to anger and judgement from his father.
The TV Addams Family has the vibe of an eccentric Victorian Adventurer's Club. The world out there is full of exotic wonder. The movie Addams Family has an insufferable 90's Goth Kid vibe. Ick.
"Just those 4 notes alone are enough for most of us to instinctively snap our fingers."
*stares at fingers I just snapped*
...damn, I got read like a book right there.
Wednesday with her monologue calling out the whitewashing of Thanksgiving and her friends burning everything is just brilliant. Kudos to the team for that!
Love that story line.
I just realized something. I am not american, but of course watched a lot of american media. So I got my image about how the US is, through movies and shows. And I think this monologue might be the first time I was told what really happened in america back then. And I probably wasn't the only child who learned the truth that way.
It was part of what made the film forever hold a place in my heart. Different experiences inform different knowledge is the best thing I can say to the comment above. I remember watching the scene and less surprise as a child and more recognition. Half of my family from a country of a similar bloodshed. It was like "I've never seen anything outwardly admit things that I know from my heritage. That's new". I am bothered by how unbothered by that fact I was but that's the cultural trauma in action I suppose.
we have the same issue regarding our history. it's kind of a long story. to be fair, i was aware of what really happened to the natives and even my children's book was very explicit about what happened.
@@AgentSteffi uh.. 100% of the narrative of anything relating to natives or especially thanksgiving is negative, and has been for at least 40 years. nevermind they got along fine at that first thanksgiving and for some time afterward.
One of my favorite lines from Adams Family Values is during the drowning scene where the one girl goes, “I’ll be the victim.” And Wednesday says, “all your life.”
It kills me, 😂. The deadpan and the simplicity a chef’s kiss.
Don't forget the Pitch Perfect Punchline of the Scene:
"I can't Swim...."
I think of that line from time to time and it still makes me smile.
Sounds a lot like the people you see on Twitter.
It breaks my heart that Raul Julia never received an Oscar nomination in his lifetime
On that note I hereby declare Raul Julia Best Actor and offer up this jagged blade ():::::::);;;;;;;;;;;;;> in his honor.
gone too son :(
Was he nominated by The Kiss of the Spider Woman?
@Jack Kerouak No, but William Hurt won. Which. The injustice. I can't even.
@@LaFemmeFictionale Well, I liked them both. ;)
And Sônia Braga as well, of course.
This book is just wonderful, by Manuel Puig.
My parents are in their early 80s, and watched Addams Family when it was originally being broadcast. My mother has this to add to your excellent commentary, after I shared your video with her (I transcribed it as best I could from a Skype call, so it's somewhat messy- I apologise, but I hope you find it interesting!):
"About the way race is shown-- That's exactly it! The show was very political at the time, full of very poignant but subtle social commentary. Many other young people weren't allowed to watch it by their stuffy parents back then, either because their parents didn't watch the show and had assumed it was a horror series for adults only, or because they DID watch an episode and didn't want their kids thinking whatever about the way the Addams lived. Of course, now you all see the Addams are generally very progressive, especially back then-- remember, it was even stuffier than you realise!
Importantly, Morticia was sensualised on her own terms. Her dress was very long, and the trend I remember at the time was that legs were being shown off as stockings had come back into fashion with mini skirts as new nylon fabric was invented, so sheer legs and patterned stocking were big and considered very sexy. But Morticia, instead of being portrayed as showing off for Gomez or feeling pressured into doing all she could for beauty (which is what was common at the time in media), Morticia was so beautiful, her mannerisms so smooth and delicate in contrast to the high energy trend at the time in movies and the like, her hair was never toussled or ratted (as we called it back then), and it was so interesting to see a woman who was in a loving and devoted relationship without any worry of what her husband might think of her for having her hair down! She was beautiful in the way she felt best, and Gomez loved her for reasons other than her beauty yet always commented on her gorgeous and distinct style and features, and while this seems like something someone might expect nowadays-- Believe me, back then?
This was hot news, a truly equal relationship on television! I recall this show being the first time I thought, oh, oh my good golly gosh, there's no tension in the Addams House. They love each other. They live well. They have a mind for arts and culture, and respect one another. It's so sad, thinking back on it, how new and interesting it was to see a truly healthy relationship on TV. But I assure you, many oldies like me had our expectations (and fantasies) raised by this show!
While the normal people were always nervous and wary of all the different cultures reflected in the items and practices in the Addams house, very strict and often with less joyful relationships compared to the Addams, I remember thinking, how beautiful Morticia is, how kind and loving Gomez is-- Even Gomez being named Gomez was a very big deal, the implication being that they were an interracial or inter-cultural relationship. At the time, the only similar couple was in I Love Lucy, and was portrayed much more stereotyped owing to the time.
But fundamentally, not only are the Addams at their hearts people just like everyone else no matter their differences from all those around them, but they are happier and live a better quality life, a richer life, because of their oddities. They welcome the strange, they embody things that scared or put off others, and their relationship was in contrast to the way other couples were shown on TV as always arguing or having many points of serious contention. But Morticia and Gomez, now there was a real ideal. I remember having a crush on Gomez-- Who wouldn't!
As I would have told you back then, Who wants a John Wayne type, when you could aim high and get yourself a Gomez? Ha!"
I logged in to RUclips to like and subscribe. The final impetus was your post, effluviah, it's one of the best I've seen in some time. Thanks for sharing; three thumbs up.
It is very interesting know what was going on back in the time when the tv show was exhibited. Time really changed and in this case, for better!
@@c.w.miller8195 Thank you very much, I'm glad I could share my mother's commentary on this video with you and anyone else who may like to read it. Since all I did was transcribe what my mother had said, I passed your comment along to her, and she replied: "Thank you for your kind praise CW, I'm happy to hear my old memories are interesting to someone out there!"
Your mom is awesome, and all of her commentary so true. Thanks for sharing it with us!
Wow, this was fun to read. Thanks for sharing
A family where the parents are deeply in love and not ashamed to show it, where the children's interests are encouraged, where relatives are welcomed and cherished. Give me a family like the Addams.
The films were funny, and to some extent, more quotable ("Are they made with real Girl Scouts?"), but there's something about the sitcom that's just so dang creepily wholesome in a way that's charming. The film Adams Family IS a bit malevolent, and you know they'd judge you, but the sitcom Adams Family is like, "hey our door is always open to EVERYONE, no matter how weird or normal. Come and have an afternoon afterschool snack of chocolate chip cookies and eyeballs beside our disembodied hand."
You know what, in a way, you're right. I'm sure the 90's Addams wouldn't be so bad to be with, but I think I'd be more comfortable with the sitcom Addams more, mainly because they are more welcoming and open. I was wondering why I had a slight bias towards the show's portrayal and you just hit the nail on the head!
@@CMW1995 yes, I’m a misfit, but far too dorky a misfit to be fully accepted by the film Wednesday!
What I'm thinking into words
@@marypagones6073 are you 14?
That sounds like the way a teen would describe themselves going through an angsty phase
I agree. The sitcom has a warmth that the movies kinda watered-down. Creepy wholesome that I feel movied missed the mark....the movies to me felt more gimmicky edgy as opposed to the show where they were an actual loving macabre family
I literally gasped at Angela Houston’s mother. Not in a bad way, but it’s like…come on. Angelica was literally born to play Morticia on the big screen.
Her mom literally is Morticia! Amazing!
Same, GASPED out loud at the screen!
Same! I went "**Gasp** That's her mom?! SHE'S LITERALLY MORTICIA!"
I didn’t gasp but I said “yooooooo that’s wild!” Her mother was gorgeous.
Oh no! Huston was terrible as Morticia. She didn't have the body, the face, or the grace.
The Adult Wednesday Addams YT series did a fantastic job of contextualising Wednesday as an adult in the mid 2010s. It's sad that the estate choose to shut the creator down instead of working with her.
Agreed
Very much agreed
Was it anything like Daria? Now I have to go look up Wednesday's series on here.
Is it possible to find that show anywhere on the internet?
I’ve never seen this series (just heard of it recently and tbf it does sound awesome), but from what I understand, if she was profiting off of it, it makes sense they would open up a lawsuit. Sort of like the Bridgerton Musical. It’s sad, but understandable.
It sounds like the web series did at least showcase her skills as an actress and writer which has led to more credits and success, so that’s great!
I always saw the way that the Addams Family dealt with race to be explicitly anti racist. Because it’s not the objects from foreign countries that are made fun of, it’s the wonder read people scared of anything forever gun that are the ones being mocked.
I thought it was quite a smart way to both point out and mock the white American (and other white western) xenophobia and racism.
@Erwin Lii YES!!
@Erwin Lii oh damn, that's a sitcom? The pictures on Netflix made it look like a baking show which I hate watching, lol.
@@AgentSteffi Sadly it got cancalled as a full show but she now has a variation on her Patreon. It wasn't a sitcom persay more of a spooky DIY show with a plot built around it. I'm sad it didn't last because I think it had more potential to be great with better writers and ditching the obnoxious franken raccoon lady creature.
@@Firegen1 ahh I see. Wikipedia said sitcom in the first sentence 🙃
@@AgentSteffi That's alright. The Wiki on it isn't great. It's worth a watch to see what you think of it. If you enjoy it, she basically split the format over her socials and patreon and so on.
There's this quote floating around the net, that the Addams Family was an inversion to the boomer generation's lifestyle & virtues - that's why the husband and wife actually love each other (instead of making it a running joke how they hate each other's guts, and how terrible it is to be married). I think about that constantly, especially when I see some boomer-humor content that makes that same old joke: horrible nagging wife, ball & chain, etc. In "Addams Family Values", there's even a line where Morticia asks Gomez: "Do you still want me after all those years? The old ball and chain?", and after he passionately affirms, she's like: "I'll got get them!" That's a perfectly subversive spin on that trope.
Inasmuch as Charles Addams did the first "Family" cartoon in 1938, and had the family in place by 1950, it strains reason that they were about the defiance of "Boomer values." The defiance of Silent Generation and Greatest Generation values, maybe, but if you read the book, The Addams Family: An Evilution, you'll discover that Addams and The New Yorker took years to realize they had "a thing" going with the Family.
Addams is thought to have done 1,000 cartoons, of which only about 150 were Family cartoons.
Besides, artists don't work that way. They're not intellectuals. They don't decide to concoct a piece of fiction to transmit an idea, the exception being allegory, which any sensible person hates.
@@bobtaylor170 Wow. First of all, I never claimed that's what the cartoonist intended / planned in the beginning, all I alluded to was a modern-day interpretation someone posted on the internet. I never made a definitive statement "this is so and so", I said "I read a clever quote about it which I think fits". Second, "artists are not intellectuals, they don't work that way..." - WHAT? First of all, I am an artist myself and I know plenty of them. They ABSOLUTELY "work that way". Not all of them, but plenty. Like, do you know ANYTHING about art, art history, art theory??? How many poets wrote about poetry and art theory, how many artists did? Jesus. Literally basic standard literature on art making in each field comes from art creators temselves. Stating something like that shows either ignorance or complete misunderstanding of the whole concept of art and art history. Also: Ok, Boomer.
@@esmeraldaloschuetz9120 , there's a difference between practice and criticism. T.S. Eliot was a great poet and a great critic, but I'm sure he didn't write his poetry as a means of transmitting ideas, intellectual concepts.
I never said artists weren't intellectual, I said they weren't in general intellectuals. Dwight MacDonald was an intellectual. His contemporary, John Berryman, was a great poet who was also intellectual, but not, I think, an intellectual. At least, he wasn't an intellectual in his writing of "Homage to Mistress Bradshaw." There's an excellent book, "Poets in Their Youth," written long after his death by Berryman's wife. It's fascinating that Berryman was in some sort of flow state during the couple of weeks in which he wrote most of it. He wasn't writing intellectually, he was writing intuitively. He himself was embarrased by some of "The Dream Songs": they seem to have been written by something of a pathological case.
Flannery O'Connor's letters show her to have been intellectual, but she shied away from "intellectuals," referring to them as "innerlectuals." She was astonished and disgusted with people who saw symbolism in everything she wrote. You should read those letters, "The Habit of Being."
Do you think Ray Bradbury knew any literary theory, or The Beatles any music theory? Flannery O'Connor said that she wrote word to word, having no idea what was coming next.
And why, because I know the history of The Addams Family cartoons ( Linda Davis' biography, "Charles Addams," is also a recommendation ), and something of 20th century American life, do you suppose I'm a Boomer? It's interesting that you associate one's being a Boomer with the person's actually knowing something. There are people in your age range who do know things. Half the people I know are scholars under 50. They're Xers and Millennials. I don't know any Boomers that well. Why do you assert that I'm one? Also, don't you know that your use of a dumb cliche deracinates the credibility of the things you wrote earlier?
@@bobtaylor170 1.: "Besides, artists don't work that way. They're not intellectuals." - This is me, LITERALLY copying and pasting your own words back to you. The words "not in general" are nowhere to be seen. You could, of course, edit your original comment after I post mine, but. You know. I screenshotted it.
2. You apodictically stated something about artists and art making, as if it was the only admissable fact, an universal truth. I objected that there are multiple form of artists and art-making. I absolutely pity you if you are drawing these absolutist conclusions of yours just based on the little literary bubble of your personal taste. You listed a handful of examples (partly subjectively interpreted), and therefore the whole wide world of literature and poetry and art and music must work exactly as it did in these few people??? Or at least the "worthwhile" / "worthy" art, as your last sentence suggests, and, let me guess, for the distinciton bewteeen "worthy" and "unworthy", YOU and only you are the one true yardstick?
3.There absolutely are artists and poets etc. who work based on intuition, and instinct, like they’re following a melody deep inside them, some inner red string. There ALSO absolutely ARE artists that construct, and plan, and think about techniques (and yes, to translate a concept, an idea into art - my God, this is literally what art is, but ok). I think, mostly, it’s some kind of combination of both of them, but my main point is: There are literally whole scientific fields on exactly that, things people fucking STUDY. For AGES. Literary Science, Science of Art. (Btw., I do ABSOLUTELY believe that T.S. Eliot's poetry goes FAR beyond "Oh, I'm just associating random stuff that sounds nice", but I digress.) Max Frisch's initial profession was architect. He constructed his great novels like he would an architectonical structure; he wrote about it. Flaubert racked his head for WEEKS for the one "mot just". Friedrich Schiller, Goethe, Bertolt Brecht, Samuel Beckett, Max Frisch, Friedrich Dürrenmatt, Virginia Woolf, Marina Zwetajewa, Max Liebermann… All of them wrote and theorised about (their) art and their craft, like, a LOT, and that’s just from the top of my head. John Cale was a highly trained classical musician with a degree from the Goldsmith College. Didn’t prevent him neither from kicking ass with the Velvets, nor from doing his own, highly poetic thing, later.
4. Are you seriously suggesting that only the pure intuitive art-making process is valid / true art / real? Even without knowing art theory or literary theory, you still can have your own theories and thoughts about the process, simply by consuming the art of other masters that inspires you. This is what everyone in your list of examples did - they all had influences, artists they admired and who they oriented themselves on. Great artists don't always have to learn from academical theory per se, but they DO learn by consuming and observing the art and art-making of others, and drawing conclusions.
5. Even art that strives to be completely free of any method or intent often enough needs and relies on a theoretical backdrop, like Surrealism, or Beat Poetry, or Informel (K.O. Götz wrote a whole tractate on aesthetics).
6. Lastly - I did not assume you were a boomer because you „knew things“. On the contrary - due to your statements, I thought you were ignorant. It’s that you seemed so very triggered by my usage of the word „boomer“. Which, you know. Only boomers tend to be.
Your last sentence drove it home - that saturated, unmoveable arrogance. The absolute certitude to be the smartest in any room, always, because all the others just can’t possibly know what they’re talking about; not like you do, anyway. They’re probably just jealous about all the stuff that you know. That must be it.
P.S.: „My age“? What do you think is my age? 😀
@@esmeraldaloschuetz9120 , has anyone ever called you a harridan? A termagant, even? Egad, lady, I feel like a W.C.Fields character getting wacked with an umbrella by some censorious biddy. I'll bet you just can't keep the guys away.
One of the most terrifying scenes ever filmed is when Wednesday (Christina Ricci) smiles in Addams Family Values!
"Isn't She PRETTY?"
"SHE'S SCARING ME!!!!!"
But she has smiled before. That one was just funny how everyone reacted
Look I honestly got prefer cute Wednesday of the sitcom
to the psychopath in the film
@@unknownforever2198 Different smile.She smiles when she's about to turn her match on in the Thanksgiving scene,but that is a completely different smile.Sly,but not scary.
@@Nicamon I was referring to the first movie twice actually.But yea a smile is a smile
I honestly couldn't even tell you which one is my favourite. The Movies got me into the Addams family and I adore them, but I also genuinely love the TV series. A lot of the humor etc honestly still holds up etc.
One line that always stuck with me was the episode in relation to voting and Mother Addam recollected her first fime voting and when Fester replied something along the lines of "woman weren't even allowed to vote." And she replied "That never stopped an Addams."
I am paraphrasing as I don't remember the exact lines, but it was just this small offhand joke, that I just genuinely loved and that added a bit of character to their past historically.
Either they pulled crossdressing really good or they lived in Wisconsin
(Which had such a tiny population that they had to get women voting in order for them to have a state at all
I grew up in the 80s watching the reruns on Saturday mornings, so that version will always be the one true version (not to say the movies werent good, better than most remakes in general)
If you want proof that method acting is overrated, watch Christopher Lloyd as Uncle Fester. He didn't gain weight to be more authentic. He just wore a fat suit, which so many method actors frown upon, and he was still terrific.
Seriously, the 90s films were had some of the best ensemble casting ever. Everyone was perfect in their part, and they all looked like they were having a ball, which makes the overall viewing experience that much more enjoyable.
It breaks my heart that Raul Julia didn't live long enough to play Don Diego de la Vega, the old Zorro, in The Mask of Zorro (1998), because his portrayal of Gomez has me convinced that he would've put Anthony Hopkins to shame.
you're gonna love christopher lloyd in nobody
He probably would have put Hopkins to shame.
I didn't realise he was considered for the role, but yeah considering his portrayal of Mack the Knife I think it could have been really something.
Woah, hold your horses, So one good thing is not method acting = method acting is overrated. The mental gymnastics of your logic lmao...
I do agree with method acting being overrated but your example is not it.
@@jeromealday614 Geez, would you have preferred if I specified, "If you want ONE EXAMPLE"?
You do know that gaining/losing tens of pounds for a role is very common practice for method actors who insist that wearing fat suits won't help them to "feel" and "behave" like real heavyset people, right? And most actors who do it risk long-term consequences from the sudden shift in weight, metabolism, etc. Tom Hanks has diabetes, D'Onofrio tore ligaments during Full Metal Jacket because he wasn't used to the extra weight, De Niro's heart health got so bad during Raging Bull that they had to limit shooting to 4 takes per scene instead of 20, the list goes on. To hear these people talk, you'd think fat suits are for losers.
Enter Lloyd: wears a fat suit and everyone loves him. Is it really that big a stretch to conclude, "Hmm... I wonder what ELSE you shouldn't have to do in the name of authenticity (e.g. treating your co-stars like dirt, insisting on being addressed by your character's name, not showering during production, etc.).
Always loved the Addams more than the Munsters because, as put here, the Addams are about comedy via subversion while the Munsters are just sitcom jokes and borscht belt gags wrapped in monster paper. Their aesthetic never goes any deeper than the surface level.
IIRC The Munsters was developed specifically to be a competing show with The Addams Family. Addams had thought and care behind the creation of the show, while Munsters was like "OK let's get a bunch of monsters and put them in wacky situations, that'll work."
Late in life Al Lewis was interviewed by FAMOUS MONSTERS magazine (early in its revival). He lamented howmuch he missed his dear friend Fred Gwynne (who'd passed away not that long before). He also compared the writing on CAR 54 WHERE ARE YOU? and THE MUNSTERS, saying CAR 54 was brilliant, while MUNSTERS was "awful".
@@henrykujawa4427 I was an Addam's Family fan and not a Munsters fan when they both originally aired...it took years for me to actually watch The Munsters. While the gags were terrible, Fred Gwynne really was fabulous in that role--his facial expressions, body language...just fun stuff.
As a foreigner I never understood why most US sitcoms and cartoons have a married couple who always fights. It never sat well with me how they would always harm each other when my own parents are always sweet and would go to dates in secret. Morticia and Gomez's relationship is honestly THE RELATIONSHIP GOALS that I dream of having in the future.
As a child who grew up in a loving home, a fair number of TV show parents made me more uncomfortable for that exact reason.
I wouldn't say my parents had an Adam's family love, but they were strongly loyal to each other and quietly affectionate. Like my mom could just sit down with a book in front of my father and he'd start rubbing her back, kind of affection. They had their own hobbies but were supportive of the other's.
After they retired, they are so much more adorable together. I have pics of them sitting together on the porch when taking a break from doing outdoors work. My mom had the time and energy to take up some of his hobbies so they now fish and golf together periodically. They can share the chores equally from cooking to cleaning to who has to get up early to let the chickens out. I stayed overnight this last weekend and he played guitar and sang quietly to her as she was going to sleep.
But apparently that's nearly non-existent. All my friends that came over enjoyed the tranquility of my home and I even once had a friend (in college) tell me that my parents don't have to pretend to like each other (they were holding hands in the car while they drove us to celebrate our joint birthdays, which was also apparently just not a thing done).
It shaped my standards for relationships and I absolutely hated the shows where the husband only ever seemed to complain about his wife or her him.
@@catelynh1020 Because of how the current sitcoms have the wives not realizing they married stupid men, I have modeled myself into not being that way with my husband. He is smart, intellectual, and we actually have a Morticia and Gomez like relationship. We never argue, we are with each other 24/7. We both have mental disorders that keep us from being able to work as such we instead receive disability services. When quarantine happened, and we saw all of the memes about couples not getting along because they had to be with each other 24/7, we were confused by it. We love each other deeply and encourage each other in the hobbies we love and enjoy together. The Addams Family is our favorite cinema family for that reason, that they are with each other 24/7 and not at each other's throats for stupid things that don't really matter.
@@psychosislove Good on you both. My husband is my best friend and has been for nearly 40 years. I wouldn't have it any other way. Through good times and bad we're there for one another. I feel very lucky.
I, too really hate the spite-filled, mean-spirited families that populate so much of modern TV, movies, etc. And I'm always uncomfortable with the complainers who tell tales of their mate's shortcomings incessantly. I'm glad for you both that you have a lovely relationship, may it stay strong. :-)
21:15-21:25 They probably thought, by "unbalanced", that Cher would be too famous that people would only see Cher and not Morticia Addams (Which isn't exactly wrong given there have been times actors have played iconic or semi-iconic characters where the actor's personas took over and it was hard to see the character *cough* Beyonce as Nala *cough*)
*cough* *cough* Will Smith
cough - Johnny Depp - cough
I was so confused about the Nala example, until I realized that people might talk about the remake.
@@AgentSteffi Hey, forgetting that the remake exists is a blessing.
Cough cough Emma Watson as belle
Can we admire that Wednesday going rogue in the camp didn’t just come from nowhere? When they first get to camp
Pugsley: What is a Chippewa?
Gomez: It is an old, Native American word
Wednesday: It means orphan.
Foreshadowing her early distaste for the camp
What's interesting about the addams family is how they have become to model for Millennials/Gen Z elders.
We want to find our own Gomez or Morticia.
We want to have an unconventional family that's more focused on being a loving family than being an outwardly perfect family.
The Addams family basically told a whole generation that its ok to be yourself no matter how creepy or cooky you can be.
I haven't noticed that people have had a problem with that for about fifty years, now. A return to traditional standards of dress and manners is overdue.
@@bobtaylor170 No, thanks. There's no particular reason for that. Things change for a reason. Much love🖤🔮.
Wait, there are already Gen Z elders? Did you mean Gen X?
The oldest gen Z are 27/28. Cuspers, but still, they know what they're talking about.
An example of a film that is perfectly cast. Christina Ricci was only 11 as Wednesday and she’s the best performance in my opinion. Even better in Values when she tries to smile.
"Isn't She PRETTY?"
"SHE'S SCARING ME!!!!"
"I would die for her. I would kill for her. Either way, what bliss." Gomez Addams
We should all have such powerful love in our lives.
If the world was fair the addams family values would earn an Oscar just for existence and fir having such a stellar cast, I always laugh at the "they had sex" joke and Christina Ricci really ate that part
Excellent video.
The point about the both iterations of the Family being more inclusive and relatable for some of the audience than the supposed 'normality' of the people they interact with is so spot on.
It doesn't suggest you can only be a good person if your sensibilities align with the Family, but certainly suggests a mind more open to alternative lifestyles and eccentricity.
I haven't seen the "new" movies but I watched the sitcom as a young teenage girl in the mid 80's. Morticia was such a kind and positive example of womanhood. She embodied what I wanted to be.. confident and classy while being outside of "the norm". The respect and love she shared with Gomez was a real relationship goal.
honestly the 60s addams celebrating Christmas is a lot funnier to me. like yeah they’re this dark, macabre family but even they get into the holiday spirit 🥺
"Get into the holiday spirit"? Ugh. Grotesque.
Lupercalia was pretty horny and dark, honestly, it's right on brand.
I always thought the scene in the pilot where Gomez comforts Wednesday was really sweet. Sure, it’s supposed to be played as a joke, but it warmed my heart that his first reaction isn’t “Oh, sweetie, it’s only a story” but “Holy shit, my daughter’s upset! Who upset my daughter? Imma cut a bitch!” It’s weirdly funny and wholesome at the same time.
It's not mentioned in this video but one of my favorite tidbits of this Addams duology is the character arc of Margaret, played by Dana Ivey. She starts off as the henpecked wife of the first movie's villain and is at first put off by the Addamses, but eventually she begins to see how loving and protective they are as a family, to the extent that she marries Cousin Itt!
The element from the sitcom that I'm most glad made it into the movies is the passion and equality of Gomez's and Morticia's relationship. The tango scene, their open affection around other people, and their reassurance of one another whenever something bad happens make them a joy to watch.
I know it's a silly detail but my god I love seeing the Addams movis just for the lighting on Morticia eyes, so simple but I love it
Yes! I love that!
My mom has the whole Chas Addams collection in her library. There is even a "Cook Book" filled with comic scenes interspersed with recipes such as Transparent Pie, Potted Woodland Squirrel & for Valentine's day...Stuffed Bull Heart
Those are good ideas for decorations for a Halloween party.
Man, that sounds like something that ought to be documented!!
When clearing out the parent's house, Char Addam's cartoon books were one of the things I insisted I get. I loved looking thru them as a kid, long before there was ever a show
Just want to point out that Wednesday was not cast to just play "one of the Native Americans" but was in fact cast as Pocahontas. This pushes the political humor of her last monologue to a slightly darker place :)
Well, it’s even worse because it’s a forced Thanksgiving play during a summer camp and overexcited white camp counselors. :/. But really, all the “misfits”…ones who aren’t white, those you are Jewish, a disabled girl, etc…are the Native Americans in the play.
The fact that Gomez is a wealthy man who *wants to pay his taxes* is mind blowing and wonderful.
The thing that always struck me about the Addams family vs. other sitcoms is the Addams family is actually nice to one another rather than constantly verbally abusive.
I saw a post on tumblr about kids talking about the Addams Family show back in the 60s and how their favorite thing about the show was "how much the mommy and daddy loved each other" 😭 How sad that it was also a subversion of normal American media at the time, to have a married couple actually be affectionate and loving to one another
My favorite episode was when their neighbor sent over a man to trace their lineage as a way to undermine then, and the man is so captivated by the Addams instead that he is excited by their exotic backgrounds and house rather than being afraid of them, and actually talks about how the neighbor who hired him had a black sheep in his own ancestors. Overall I enjoyed how the the family is overwhelmingly open with how much they love each other, as opposed to every other family of that era who seem to be content with a word or a quick hug, and the "Of course I love you!" as if people are just crazy thinking that because they don't hear it doesn't mean they shouldn't know it. The Addams just gush all the time with their love for, concern of, and complimenting of their huge extended family.
It's so crazy that John Astin, the actor, who played Gomez in the TV show, is still alive!
His real life son is Sean Astin the actor who played Sam in the lord of the rings and Bob Newby on Stranger Things. He was also the star of The Goonies as a kid.
@@From-North-Jersey Step Son Actually.
@@eamonndeane587 John adopted Sean after he and Patty Duke were married.
There's another small detail I really appreciate in the 90's movies, and that's how they handle Margaret. She starts out as the wife of the first movie's villain, falls in love with cousin It at the ball, ends up marrying him and living sublimely happy as a full-fledged member of the Addams clan. However, despite all this, she continues to dress in much of the same style as before, wearing frilly pinks and pastels. No one gives Margaret the side-eye for wearing "normal" clothes. She embraces the Addams' world, and they embrace her just as much. Her bubbly nature isn't diminished, but actually amplified, because she's in a place where she feels free to be her 100% authentic self. As much of a minor character as she is, I absolutely adore this arc, because it underlines how truly accepting the Addamses are, instead of what you so often see in "edgy" communities or characters (see also NLOG's).
I get that Cher was the bigger celebrity - but she could never ever have brought the poise and menace like Anjelica Huston did. She probably would have been closer to the sitcom version. But Anjelica is otherwordly.
Also nothing in movies is as horrifying as Wednesday's "smile" in Addams Family Values. Nightmares.
A little trivia I know about the Addams Family TV series, and the Munsters for that matter. Neither series were cancelled because of low ratings. In fact, they both could have gone on for as long as Bewitched. But they happened to be on at a time when the networks were converting from black & white shows to color. The grim-looking Addams Family house (and 1313 Mockingbird Lane) may have looked grey and dismal in B&W, but in reality the sets were cotton-candy pink and.. uhhh .. PASTEL!!!! They had to be for the backgrounds to stand out in any way in B&W. When the networks were converting to color, they either 1) would have had to tape episodes on (blech) pastel-colored sets, 2) build whole new sets that looked identical to the original sets (just in more gothic colors), or 3) cancel the shows. It just proved more cost-effective to pull the plug on each of them.
So basically...
Director: “Ah crap! With television shows having to convert to color now, does that mean we have to rebuild the entire set all over again to be black and white?....
Nah! Let’s not put in the effort and instead just end the show right now. 64 episodes is plenty.”
@@hunterolaughlin Yep, basically that's it.
They didn't have cans of paint?
A different alternative clearly NEVER occured to them: CONTINUE DOING THEM in B&W.
Hey, look at "YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN".
Something that has annoyed me for DECADES is when, in the 70s, syndication began yanking B&W seasons from packages, and only running later color episodes, while earlier seasons of series were almost universally better-written.
So VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA, season 1 vanished. PETTICOAT JUNCTION, the first 3 seasons vanished.
I often think it's lucky LOST IN SPACE never made it to a 4th season. If it had, by far its best season-- the 1st-- might have disappeared for decades.
@@henrykujawa4427 It was just not financially feasible. There are different types of cameras to record color and B&W shows. They would require entirely different lighting rigs. While different shows would have their own, the production studios would re-use the same filming / lighting equipment on all their shows. All of this equipment needs constant maintenance and repair and has to be stored - ALL of this costs money, lots of it. As for painting the sets, well that would require LOTS AND LOTS of paint. Not to mention all-new costumes, props, and make-up (all of which would translate differently in color episodes than they would in B&W.) These costs add up. And while the Addams Family & the Munsters were popular, they just werent popuar ENOUGH to warrant keeping around expensive equipment that wouldn't be used for any other show.
i do hold a special spot for the movies (addams family values was one of my favorites as a little kid and continues to my one of my favorite movies- also angelica huston, christina ricci, and joan cusack?? SO fantastic. ma li bu bar bie!) i have to say the influence of the show is undeniable and a very good time still!! -coming from a gen z perspective and having watched both long after they had been released :) wonderful video!
also that QUOTE AT 20:30 jesus christ
Implying what Gomez and Morticia get up to is arguably spicier than showing it. It also is just more creative because of it.
Great video! When I was a kid I always wished I could have been a part of the Addams family. They were creepy and odd, but they represented a functional loving family that I didn't have as a kid. I will always keep the Addams clan close to my heart.
I remember my mother saying a bit huffily, "I don't like the way they show those two getting so lovey-dovey all the time." That alone recommended the show to me! Re-watching it now, their chemistry is phenomenal and crackles on the screen.
I was watching some clips from ‘The Addams Family’ movies and they aged well. Especially the drama between Wednesday and Amanda.
"I Can't Swim..."
I adore these movies. I've never seen the sitcom but I will have to seek it out now. You have such a talent for promoting classic media!
The movies are much funnier than the sitcom, but there are a few fun moments.
@@Trixtah disagree, depends on your sense of humor I guess.
Also take a look for Chas Addams's books like 'Homebodies'. Great stuff.
You could take the dynamic between Morticia and Gomez from the 1960s sitcom and the 1990s movie, plunk it into a sitcom today, and it would STILL be very subversive.
In an era where _Married With Children_ is still the stock template for couple relations, Morticia and Gomez love each other, and look forwards to sharing a bed.
In an era where Homer Simpson and Tim Taylor are the stereotypical TV Dads, Gomez is loved _and respected_ and--in the movies--a competent businessman. He's weird, yes, but his wife and kids not only take it in stride, but even take part in his idiosyncrasies.
They are, in their own weird way, a happy couple--and since when did you last see that in a sitcom?
I really wish there was a comprehensive repository of Charles Addams's original comics. I found a few examples, and it seemed to always be extremely clever and witty with the foreground and background details. My favourite was one where Pugsly was collecting various road hazard signs, some visibly torn from their original locations.
You also have to take into account the despite the Adams not being "Normal" they are actually happier then then "Normal" individuals and families they interact with. It's kind of a interesting take on the idea of the ideal family.
God, i just adore you, your writing, sense of humor and your take on film, performances and culture. Thank you for your content. I think it's time for Patreon. 😊
Yeah that white guilt and passive racism really draws the crowds, huh?
@@GODCONVOYPRIME and pooped it is. Life not great?
"You blow them up?"
"Of course. Why else would a grown man play with trains?"
The Lily Munster slander!! They premiered within weeks of each other and the Munsters are working class weirdos, with Lily having to sandwich parent a wolfboy and vampire mad scientist. Anyway life is short, love both Lily and Morticia.
I agree. Doesn't really seem fair to call them a knock off.
The Musters haven’t had that magical reboot like the Addams Family has. The Addams Family has had this more than once, while Mockingbird Lane and the Zombie movie didn’t quite have that spark.
I so miss that sitcom! Carolyn Jones was so awesome! And the character's relationship with her plants
And don’t forget John Astin (Gomez) and Jackie Coogan as Fester. They were fantastic as well!
The fact that they both parent their children was also so nice to see
This was a very interesting review. My only critique is I think it's viewed from too modern of a lens. Having the Addams' feature artifacts from other cultures isn't "othering" those cultures. The humor is that the "squares" are freaked out over things that are different.
But that's literally the point. That sometimes the "jokes" reinforce the very thing they make fun of. While we should keep in mind the era a film/TV show was produced when evaluating it, we also need to acknowledge the attitudes and behaviors in our past that were troublesome instead of just sweeping it under a rug by saying, "Yes, yes, but it was OK back then because we didn't know better and it's OK now because we know better now."
@@byMidnyt you can keep holding a bat over historys head all you want but you must remember. History repeats itself wether you want it to or not. You cant stop prejudice because prejudice is always going to happen and theres nothing you can do about it. The only thing you can do to stop bigotry is to ignore them and let them see how wrong they are.
Actually I liked the fact that the entire family still believed in Santa Claus. They don’t know that they’re morbid in the eyes of society, and it shows their actual innocence as they are more of a loving a family than most other families.
TL;DR
Gomez has been a mega Chad for 50 years.
I liked The Munsters well enough but I adored The Addams Family in all of it's incarnations. So delightfully weird. Thank you and Happy Halloween 🎃!
John Astin playing Gomez moves his cigar to punctuate his dialogue like an old timey comedian
Watch old Groucho Marx stuff. It's like Gomez is channeling him.
I remember being blown away by "Addams Family Values" when I saw it in the theater decades ago. It still seems way ahead of its time.
john astin’s sister in law was my mother’s godmother. pretty cool flex lol
It is!
That's a lie I've never seen you at any family reunions!
I remember being so bummed out at how gross the movies made the house instead of it being a gorgeous Victorian affair. That being said, I love those movies and Angelica Houston's Morticia is still my fashion icon. Plus Raul Julia was a friggin genius. Great video!!
As a kid. I was so glad for the Addams cartoon. Gomez was always romancing Morticia, their kids were so happy and I was always happy the whole family was so happy. I loved the Addams.
Every weird kid and weird people in general felt identified with the Addamsea suring the 90's. I remember some preps or jocks referring to d ifferent or alternative girls as Morticia thinking it was a slur, but all the weirdos thought it was the coolest compliment. Those preps definetely didn't get the joke
I love The Addams Family and The Munsters, even though both families were portrayed as “odd and scary” they were two loving families with parents who cared deeply about their children and taught them to be good citizens and respect others’ differences. I’d rather be in a family like that than The Brady Bunch.
I’m just always offended when Gomez isn’t animated in an attractive way. John Astin was a beautiful man and Gomez should take on his appearance in my opinion.
that’s the whole point he’s not meant to be conventionally attractive
@@equeerstrian3906 I agree that he’s not supposed to be conventionally attractive in cultural, societal ways; however, I prefer him to look like John Astin physically, and not some grotesque version.
The grotesque and macabre elements of the Addam’s family should come from their vocabulary, traditions, home, and style-not their physicality (except in the case of Thing or It).
Look back at the original cartoons (starting in 1938). Most animated versions follow those.
Fully agree
these are my two favourite versions!!!! thank you so much for making this 🖤
It really says a lot about how *excellent* the 1991 and 1993 movies were, that their versions of the characters are still viewed as not only the *gold standard* on how to adapt the characters, but also as beloved classics of the early 90's that earned their spot in the hall of fame
Finding The Addams Family was a revelation to me as a kid. It was something I felt a much stronger connection with than anything else that was on TV. My parents thought it was just a silly show that mocked how things should be, but I actually felt like that's how things _actually_ should be, it made me feel at home and hopeful. It probably was also one of the first things that gave me an idea that being yourself is actually not such a bad thing.
15:20 that's language, not gender role.
Well, boys can't be a stewardess. They are stewards.
And yeah, morticia may knit and trim roses. But that is because that is what she likes to do.
I would love to see someone try and make her do something she doesn't want to. Any itteration of the character. To quote a wise man: "what would you do then?"
"I'd feel a *great* swell of pity"
John Astin, the TV Gomez, not only outlived all of his fellow cast members (including the child actors), he also outlived Raul Julia, his movie counterpart.
How can you not love them as a family…they are unique but they have values,respect and are nice to other people. Also as a couple they are a POWERCOUPLE.
Who was the casting director for the 90s movies? Everyone is just perfect for their roles.
Yes, excellent casting work!
I think it was that Barry Sonnenfeld magic at the time.
Hearing the 60s theme tune gave me so much nostalgia. I remember loving the reruns of the show in the early 90s 😁
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A note on the Munsters. They weren't just a knock off, they got it wrong.
The Addams were the most supportive family on TV. They still are.
The Munsters were constantly putting Marilyn down because she looked different, even though it was presented as 'concern' for her because they loved her in spite of her being so different from them.
The munsters weren't a knockoff, both shows started at the same time, chances are it was just coincidence and evolved from studio rivalries
The white chick who made this video is biased.
Same could be said for Star Trek and Lost in Space.
hadn't seen the series before mgm started uploading a while back and I've really enjoyed it. This was a great piece
I was born and raised in the United Arab Emirates, but lived on and off in Canada, where I currently am now. I remember being 9-10 years old and there was a random TV channel among all the Arabic ones that would play two episodes each of the 60s Addams Family sitcom and Adam West’s Batman every afternoon. It was the after school highlight of my siblings and I. Our minds were blown by how funny and camp and over the top it all was.
1964 tv series and 90s movie were perfect adaption of Charles Adams comics. We need more couples like Gomez and Morticia.
I absolutely love them! I grew up watching reruns in the 90s (I live in Latin America and television networks in my country used to show reruns of old American tv shows --The Addams Family, Get Smart, Zorro, etc-- during the morning, before their own productions) so they're a big part of my childhood ❤
Same!! No sé cuál sea "get smart", pero amo haber crecido con La familia Adams y El Zorro*
@@zoazede2098 Get smart was basically a 60s TV show comedy about a spy agency and their terrorist organization rival there was a remake/movie starring Steve Carrell and Anne Hathaway some years ago
I worked on the first Addams Family movie, the second crew which did perhaps one-third of the movie. I can’t remember who the first cinematographer was, but second - with whom I worked was Gale Tatersall, a sweetheart of a man who was the camera operator on The Emerald Forest - on which he caught a serious tropical disease - and his first cinematographer job was on The Commitments. Only cinematographer in my 30 years to take the grip and lighting crews out to lunch after production phase was over…
Raul Julia had eyes that had the tendency to pop out their sockets - literally - and the crew had insurance days where we were paid to stay home. This also happen when Gale got a severe sinus infection…
It was a disappointment to me when I saw the movie and they had left on the editing room floor the majority of the Babushka musical scene, which really downplayed a magnificently produced part of the movie…
This was just what I needed this spooky season, I was wondering if you'd be doing a themed video and I'm so glad it was this!
Angelica H. IS Morticia. No one can change my mind. She steals EVERY scene she’s in
I especially love her Reaction to Wednesday's Class Display of Great Aunt Calpurnia Addams
"We've Told Wednesday.... College FIRST".
Watching this video has me asking again; Why don't more film directors utilize Christina Ricci's unique talents? She's seriously one of the most fascinating, watchable actresses of our time yet she's in obscure things that I can never seem track down to watch. I honestly believe that she had the best resume in Hollywood from 1990 to 2003. She did so much great work in these films as Wednesday. She had the instincts for character development as a child that most adult actors have to train for.
Maybe it just comes down to Ricci having a personal preference for Small Scale independent films?
@@eamonndeane587 She certainly did as she was coming of age; Opposite of Sex, Prozac Nation, Monster, The Ice Storm. But all were widely distributed or accessible and had resounding critical acclaim. They were quality films with brilliant, esteemed directors. I just don't know why directors of this caliber aren't seeking her out anymore.
well some time ago i came across Bucky Larson: Born to Be a Star, i was just morbidly curious what movies was Christina Ricci
doing while i havent watched her stuff and holy crap, while i was gazing on that piece of excrement of footage, it hit me like a train, is Christina Ricci
at the career end ? Like she hit rock bottom and how could she recover from something so inhumanely disgusting.
I wish her the best, she is amazing actress, but holy shit man, what happened.
Random thought: I’ve always wondered how they managed to shoot that scene with all the crying toddlers after having heard Morticia’s version of Hansel and Gretel. Like how did they get the toddlers to cry shy of pinching them or something lol
Toddlers cry for everything, you don't need to hurt them in any way for them to cry, have you ever seen/interacted with one???
@@zoazede2098 akljdfklajdf *_yes._* one of my neighbour's a toddler and she literally cries at everything. but unless it's a serious distress she usually stops within a minute or two, too -- and with (afaik) no real consequence to her well being. it's kinda interesting to think about all the shots of kids crying on screen, sometimes might even be worried for them (and tbh, considering the entertainment industry's treatment, _sometimes_ that worry might also be justified), but honestly, once you've spent even just a few days regularly around toddlers, it's like, "oh. no, yeah, kid prolly just cried randomly at one point and they took a five second shots of it."
As a person who doesn't identify as "normal" it's nice to see characters that don't constantly mask (try to pass as "normal"/ "average") which is exhausting, btw.