Forging A Damascus Hog Splitter From A Massive Billet
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- A cross between a sword and a sledge hammer, I'm forging a Damascus (pattern welded) steel hog splitter for a client.
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the billet rod/handle I was using is 1/2", not 5/8"...
What is the make and model of the hydraulic press you were using, sir?
@@Roachimusmaximus it's one I built, just an H frame design
I still can't believe you only have 11K subs. You are in my top 3 favorite channels. You are so informational, helpful & so much more. Its because of your work I got into blacksmithing & you alone. I am NO WHERE NEAR being able to say I'm a good blacksmith but I've made myself a few knives & it's a big stress reliever for me. And I want to say thank you.
This video is actually down to Earth in regards to the frustration encountered more often than not when working on some projects.
100% respect to you Dude 👍
Thanks for watching!
Wasn't sure anyone else had as tough a time in their forge as I did this week until I saw this! Glad you persevered. Sometimes the workarounds I come up with are, like yours with the chop saw, superior techniques to what I was originally trying to do.
My grandfather had a parang and a golock. He served 3 deployments in the Philippines and the parang they were using to cut up tuna and hogs. Then the golock was pretty much the same and he had a guy in Kansas make him duplicates of both when he came back. I wish I would have gotten them when he passed away, but my cousin stole them and pawned them. Both are excellent hog splitters too.
Jeez, that looks like a Damascus brush hog blade.
Thats what i like about this channel. You show the mistakes aswell. Not everything is always smooth sailing. Just imagine the same mistakes made back in the day without any powertools. These days its only a few hours, back then it was days to rectify them.
Thanks!
A hardy hot cut works well and I've seen guys use handled with the press quite well.
Just a word of warning from a guy that used to fix bandsaws for a living. When you have a weld in the middle of of your piece, discard the section with the weld in it. The weld is sometimes different metal and often is not nearly as clean as the rest of the steel.
Thanks for the tip!
9-17-33-62-121 is the math coz of the welded surfaces are the same steel......
Love this content. Have learned so much just from this one video. Thanks!
Yep, that would be right, thanks
I still can't believe you only have 11K subs. You are in my top 3 favorite channels. You are so informational, helpful & so much more. Its because of your work I got into blacksmithing & you alone. I am NO WHERE NEAR being able to say I'm a good blacksmith but I've made myself a few knives & it's a big stress reliever for me. And I want to say thank you.
I appreciate it, thanks! Yeah, I don't know how to grow the channel faster, but as long as it's growing, that's good.
@@FireCreekForge not only that, like the saying goes, the tortoise wins the race. And you've made me grow as a person. The things I've learned from you will be apart of my life forever. And within the next few weeks I'll be starting my first damascus build. I'm pretty excited. Do you have an Email? I'd love to buy a damascus knife from you. How can I get in touch?
@@C.j-Upside3 Thank you, that's awesome. Yes, if you go to my website there's a contact form you can get in touch: firecreekforge dot com
thanks!
Good video..... love the commentary on how and why you do things the way you do!
Can't wait to see the finished project
Thanks Steve
Man, you were fighting for every inch on progress on this one!
Haha, yes
Great video man!! You should consider making a hot cut to use in your press to cut and fold your billets! Saves a ton of time!
Thanks, yeah I thought of that
Great to mention safety. I always wear safety glasses, and yet I ended up at the urgent care and then the ophthalmologist on New Years Eve after getting metal in my eye using the grinder. I put a nice 1mm scratch on my eyeball. Bought a pair of goggles immediately. Protect your eyes! Great work per usual!
Ouch! Glad it wasn't worse!
We use safety squints 😆 yeah steel in the eyeball was the most painful thing I've ever had to remove. I had a rust circle on my blue eye for a couple days and almost cracked a molar trying to remove the steel!
The youtube channel The Works always do their Damascus the way you're doing it
Yeah, I've seen that. I think a power hammer like they have would make this method more efficient
That works.
I know this was a couple of years ago, but, as you first split the bullet, fighting with it to fold it over, if your press allows, clamp it in the press so the one side isn't moving and stealing the energy you put into folding it.
AWESOME VIDEO! Might be the most informative forging video I have seen! Thanks alot!
Thanks for watching!
I recently started cutting and folding my billets so much faster! I went through the same thing you did but after a few I got a good system down. I’m sure you’re very aware of forced air but I’m glad I made that switch. My forge runs 3psi at a welding heat all day plus the amount of fuel I save is ridiculous. Great work man! and I really enjoy you’re channel.🔥⚒💪🏻
Cool! Yeah a forced air would be nice. Thanks for watching.
Very informative as always. Can't wait to follow along for more.
thanks man
I think a flour shaker (cup with screen on top) would do you some good with your flux. Evenly distributes the powder. If you can find one with a mug-style handle on it, that would be best. Should speed things up in that area. Maybe even a flour sifter might work better than that.....depends on one's preference.
I know, I should probably get something like that..
I heard the tornado sirens testing in the background. I am from Oklahoma. That is the song of my people.
Haha, yep, noon whistle.
@@FireCreekForge People who don't live in tornado alley have no idea what that sound means. I lived through the May 3, 99 tornado that tore through half the state, from Lawton, through OKC to Tulsa andhad the highest windspeeds ever recorded. And the one that hit El Reno on May 31, 2013 that was a record-breaking width of 2.6 miles.
@@ronsimpson143 Yeah that's crazy! I grew up in small towns that used it for volunteer fire fighter call out and noon whistle, so while I'm familiar with it in that regard it doesn't have the same connotation for me, hopefully it'll stay that way... :D
Safety 3rd is a good motto to live by! Lol. New sub love your videos.
Haha, thanks!
Awesome video. I’m surprised you don’t have (or maybe you do) an oxy/propane cutting torch for that thick steel. It saves money on cut-off discs and wear n tear on the grinders too.
If you use red pepper flakes you could use one of the old containers to apply the flux.
Yeah, I do want to get a metal container of some kind like that...
@@FireCreekForge I’m about 11:54 in on the video right now and I’m cringing every time you put that glass jar on your anvil... I’ve knocked over my flux container so many times It gives me anxiety seeing that glass one 😂😂
@@fxnepilogue Haha, sorry yeah I need to get a better container for my flux!
Fucking love hog splitters, anything cleaver is just cool.
Looks like a lot of hard work that also takes some time. Have you ever considered buying thin sheetsteel or flatstock for the dark steel in your billet?? In one go you would have gotten a very high layer count billet. Maybe fold once is enough. Less loss of material due to oxidation skin and cutting of the ends....and less time lost folding, stretching, grinding and heating. I mostly start with billets that allready have about 70 to a 100 layers.
Something like that is what I normally do, however I'm not aware of 1045 or similar steel available in those dimensions
@@FireCreekForge I see what you mean..well i guess if its not available than you cant go that route. I most often use O1 steel for the black steel in the damascus. In Europe you can find that in clean ground flatstock 0.040" thick allready.... next up is 0.060". The 15n20 from saw blades is about the same thickness.
No no no, safety number one priority
I would use much more flux. You can make holes in the lid of the flux holder and 'spice' it on. The piece must be very hot when applying flux and after the flux application it must go back into the forge before being worked.
Don't want to sound like a jerk....but....🙂 it was good to see a smith I admire fight some of the things I seem to fight everytime I light my forge. Glad you don't edit it out and share with us all.
You bet, if you're not failing at some things you're not learning..
Save cutting wheels and from burning up grinders and use a hot cut in the hardy🤔
Wouldn't the first fold technically give you 17 layers as the outer layer that provides the hinge is folded back onto itself effectively doubling the thickness of that layer?
Yep, actually that's right, and each time you fold it. I didn't think of that.
Question: Ilya, the guy over at Man At Arms: Reforged uses water poured on the metal to blast the scale off as he folds the steel. Have you tried that?
Yes, I have done that before, have't perfected it as a technique though, would be easier with a power hammer I expect.
Wow,,,hebat,,,,
Sounds like my forge welding experiences 😛😁👍 maybe change your name to battle creek forge?🤔😳
Probably a dumb question - is there something toxic you're working with or is the respirator mask a routine precaution? TY
No, I was going back and forth between forging this and grinding a different blade.
Holy crap man I'd hate to know how much you'd have to sell this thing for to actually make a decent profit....wage. whatever ya call it. Must be a labor of love
If you are looking at the cost of grinders you have to take into account how many other projects have already paid for them. The only one that was new to it was the one he bought.
@@roomwithapointofview not at all what I'm talking about man. I'm talking about having a week and a half tied up in one item he's making. And I'm sure he loves what he does or he wouldn't have gone full time into knife making, but I made a knife with every spare minute i had and it took me 3 weeks. People have tried to buy it from me. One guy begged me to sell it to him for a few weeks. He was offering $500. No man, can't do it. So what I'm getting at is, if you were getting paid by the hour, just say you make $20/hour, you're looking at $1,200 in labor alone. Much less all his tools and materials and whatever else overheard cones into play.
@@nateand3 I must have mumbled, (was a little late when I did the audio on this one...!) so far it's only half a week into this project (which is a bit anyway). But yes. Your point stands. Thanks for watching man
What kind of hydraulic press do you have and how much force does it apply
It's an H frame design that I built, I run it at 24.5 tons
Was this the first Wednesday of the month? Say around 12:00 noon or 1:00 p.m.?
A hog splitter is also known as a two handed machete.
Hey man thanks for the vid. Say I am wondering if youd consider using a hot cut rather then grinder/chop? That press looks like it would push a hot cut (on a stick of course) through a billet like butter. Easy to make and work like a champ.
That's a good idea!
Ah this is what the binging with babish guy does with his down time (jk buddy great video)
What’s the purpose of 1st putting the stacked billet in Diesel fuel. I really wanna kno why u do it. I’ve seen u do it in a couple other videos today so far.
protects the surface of the steel from oxidation and provides some carbon deposit, to aid in the forge weld
@@FireCreekForge cool thx
Did I hear a air raid siren?
Yeah, it was the noon whistle. It's also used for fire department callouts and tornado warnings.
You always cut your steel red hot like that?
Awesome video! Just as a question, where do you get your sawmill blades?
I got these in a trade with a friend who works at a sawmill
This weld was a train wreck
I'm wondering what's a ballpark range on what that sold for I just have no idea you said you had half a week invested in just the blade not the fit and finish so I'm just I'm just super curious I have no idea
Where do you buy those huge billets of 1045?
I got these off eBay
@@FireCreekForge Thank you, very much!
Hey brother. Whats your handle on Instagram? Been trying to find you there to follow, but no luck. BTW, great videos on here! You have a new subscriber
Thanks for watching! I'm just on RUclips actually.
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If you are learning to forge, do you think it is smart to put a video on how to do it on UTube?
Learn what you are doing first.
Yes, I do think it's a good idea to make videos and leave in the parts that don't go to plan. As far as learning what I'm doing, I'm always learning because I try things I'm not completely competent at, and work at it until I get it right.
That way, people can learn from mistakes I've made, and hopefully avoid the same issues. Therein lies some of the value of this content. Thanks for watching, don't forget to subscribe!
Rick you suck.
I personally love all of your transparency and the way you call yourself out on your own mistakes I love how humble you are… Thank you and happy new year!