@@GachiBoi holy priest is absolutely fine if you're planning on play up to mythic +15 and heroic raiding. As always, it's best to find a guild to play with rather than PUGs
We already had a resto sham in my new guild, so now I'm lvling a Holy Priest. I absolutely love it! Even before max level the rotation is so fun and responsive. You definitely feel like a strong important member of the team.
You really nailed this, thank you! Pointed out the strengths and weaknesses of each while also pointing out what's fun and interesting. Only one thing I would add as a holy, and that is the fade skill. Yes, we are squishy and only have one save - my - skin skill. But when I play my resto druid the thing I miss the most is fade. It saves the tank so much work, and saves my life in the process 😊
I'm leaving my holy paladin behind and rerolling resto druid! Holy power seems quite difficult to manage because we can't always be at melee range to apply crusader strike and this will probably badly affect hps.
I've mained Disc Priest for every expansion in WoW and my favorite was Legion with Lights Wrath, and I feel like they have brought that back with Mind Games and I AM SO FRIGGEN PUMPED! :)
Key thing to note for Priests that want a good spec agnostic Legendary. One of them replicates Power Infusion onto you when you cast it on an ally. It's not the best for any spec, but it's still good, and will help you make friends. I main Holy Priest. I don't really care about top performance, I don't raid, and it takes some convincing to get me into M+ key higher than 5. So hearing that what I'm going to do anyway is decent is nice, especially when the covenant I was going to pick anyway is good for it. Nothing this video said was going to change my primary spec and covenant choice, but it's good to know I'm accidentally doing it right.
Been Resto main since WotLK, to me nothing beats the freedom and utility and stacking up all my HoTs then switching to bear form to kite adds around. Plus in PvP they're just stupid broken, but that's never been a core focus for myself.
Dont you ever get sick of spamming globals on hots just in case a spike comes? I'm finding it hard to enjoy resto these days cause of that. I do like the skill ceiling in balancing dps and healing just enough though.
@@Schwanken Each people will enjoy different styles of healing, maybe resto druid doesnt fit your desired play style. For me I enjoy resto the most with mist 2nd.
I started playing WoW at the start of MoP and I mained a Frost Mage for the Alliance and a Holy Priest for the Horde. I dont have any reference for previous iterations of holy priest but I loved the hell outta it in MoP
I've played holypriest for many years and will stay at this specc at shadowlands too. Thanks for boosting my positive vibes with him. Most videos made me feel awkward, because of that "mimimi holy priests so bad"
Kalp Yeah i understood that. Just at many other videos people are saying that holy is the worst healer atm. But like you're writing - Just something different is atm better, doenst mean its bad
@@rocksoildgaming yeah but disc is only the best in organized known content though, if you go into a new raid holycan save your butts on progress a lot easier than disc can... but as a mess up on the high end is usually a wipe anyway... that doesn't count for much
I want to play Mistweaver but it's so hard to justify when it feels like Resto Druid has sooooo many more tools. I feel like Blizzard needs to take a look at utility across the board and spread it out a bit better.
Play it. A lot of high M+ and top 10 raid healers are pretty high on Mistweaver. Still behind disc in raid and rdruid in M+, but not dead last like this video says. Top 2 or 3 in both settings.
As much as I enjoyed your video, Resto Shaman can heal quite well single target plus, you didn't use totems much in here as they boost your healing (when players are spread) alot.
Thank you so much. I have been struggling hard in M+ content and it's nice to know that others are struggling as well with Resto Shaman. PUG groups are hard as it seems like most of them have no clue what they are doing. It is important to note that players this exp are much weaker than they were in BFA season 1. Gear drops less and less and mobs have been tuned up so the mentality of tank being like "hey I can pull whole room and heals can just out heal the damage" or dps mindsets of "we can just stand in aoe and deal dps cause healers can out heal it". Thing is we can't. You have to stop standing in aoe. This exp in every single dungeon and raid fight there is massive party/raidwide damage that is unavoidable and metric shit tons of aoe to dodge. Gotta dodge stuff cause having to use all my healing cds one trash pull is insane and even then gotta sit and drink to get mana back. Well thanks for reading my little rant. P.S. I'm resto shaman with all dungeons done at at least a +6 key on time.
Thanks for the vid. The thing for me, i see so many vids and opinions that i serieusly have no idea what to do anymore....who is right, who is wrong... i just gonna start with 1, level all healers and find out myself. Enjoyed the vid 👍
@@---iy7bj really? I'm thinking of returning to the game after the first half of BfA was a big letdown for me gameplay-wise. I mostly play druid, so if it's at LEAST a viable choice in parties for mythic, I'll consider :D Kinda want some personal feedback here... getting mixed reviews from boomkins recently :S
I'd switch Mistweaver and Holy Priest, otherwise I agree. Holy Priest defenses suck, their mobility sucks, and they're single target healing is pretty weak as well. They've very much a one trick pony, whereas Mistweaver checks way more boxes, especially in Mythic+.
@@papercuttzi7297 I agree with mistweaver and holy priest swapping in this ranking as well. He is talking about shadowlands. Mistweavers have 2 defensives and to playstyles that both work giving you variety in both raid and m+. Also mistweavers will be a beast in throughput until the other classes start to scale up from gear.
@@beastlyshotzful -So basically, we just handily ignore Priest having actual cooldowns, actual utility and actual scaling with stats? The only real con given was "I have to pay attention more regarding movement". Breaking news: Same applies so Palas since day 1. They're not crying. Having 2 defensives is kinda... not relevant at all? If you die then because you fucked up. You shouldn't fuck up in the first place. Defensives are just helpful for the MW because they lack everything except for mana burn. Good for trash but nothing else. Mistweavers will be "beasts" for the first bosses until anyone gets hand on equip. They won't scale... like AT ALL. Only a redesign can help them here. They only have 2 secondary stats that actually do anything for them: Crit and Vers, and even then they're exactly the same value as for ALL the other healers while those healers have Haste and / or Mastery as better stats. That's why MW always get outscaled by gear within the shortest periods of time. In Shadowlands stacking secondary stats will trigger DMR, so basically you get less value out of them. Perfect to trash an already underwhelmingly bad spec that has only 2 secondary stats at all. It's hard to believe that you actually know what Mistweavers are.
@@papercuttzi7297 Actual that is more likely to change the expansion, but more spells are interacting with gust of mists. Mist weavers were given another cd to offset the problem. I'm not sure what you are talking about though, with mist weavers not scaling if haste or mastery. Mastery was one of the best stats you can use in m+ and it was worse in raids due to essence font and revival not having an interaction with master, which is why crit/vers were your best stats. Since there was a new cd with direct interaction with mastery and this may have mastery outscale vers at least for raiding. A lot of the problem with Bfa was that their stat problems were over enhanced by corruption, where other healing classes we able to stack high amounts of stats and have better scaling. That was out of the norm and end of tier scaling. Mist weaver has full interaction with haste so I am not sure what you are talking about with that. It affects your hots ticks per duration, cast times of spells, cd recover, gcd, and also will have added effect if you are running chi-ji. Haste isn't as great to stack for mist weaver as compared to a resto druid or disc priest, but it all other healing class outside of those two, mist weaver has more interaction with that stat. So all in all, I'm not quite certain you know what you are talking about. Mist weaver will not have any issues with scaling until the end of the expansion and honestly the only problematic stat that will cause that is mastery, but if they add an interaction with revival utilizing gust of mist, than only one spell would be missing interaction and that would be essence font, but it has a half interaction currently that cause mastery to proc when direct heals are casted on the target and this proc from extend life from you best lego and also from bonedust brew, so mastery will be scaling far better.
They are both pretty bad tbh, and in similar ways. They both fill the niche of diverse throughput options, but have basically 0 utility. They both lack damage, especially passive damage (i.e. both are very active healers, and they have to stop healing in order to use GCDs for damage). I have seen Holy Priests make good use of Apotheosis in dungeons for pure damage, but they were few and far between. While Mistweaver has more general mobility options, both specs are actually pretty bad at casting on the move (i.e. caster mobility). Both are bottom tier, but luckily for them they have pseudo externals for tanks unlike Shaman, which probably puts them slightly ahead in M+. Both are boring too, tbh, but that's more subjective. Disc all the way baby :)
Mainly a raider so I am sticking with my Resto Shaman, also very excited about added utility coming back to the spec. If shaman won't do well in M+ content I do have a planned alt, warlock. Just one thing I want to mention. In most footage I watch of resto shaman people are over using healing surge and chain heal. We moved away from the chain heal spam in WoD and healing surge is much more expensive and worse heal than healing wave and should only be used to heal allies at about ~20-30% health, not 50%+.
I've seen that too i try to only use healing surge after unleash life for M+ or use it to build high tide Then chain heal and ive also seen people not using spirit link totem and earth wall totem more loosely they then to save it
@@jerimiahwilson2813 True, earth wall totem is very good and should be used on any big trash pull and people are often scared to use spirit link totem because it is so strong, they end up using it maybe once when they could've used it 2 maybe 3 times in the same time. Also, combining unleash life with high tide increases the potency of chain heal and it affects all targets hit for some massive heals, fun to play around. I always use unleash life, it's too strong to ignore in any content.
Have mained priest since vanilla, and it looks like all three specs will be even more fun in Shadowlands! I feel like I kind of won the WoW class lottery! Thanks for a great vid!
My guild really needs alt healers to help lower ilvl/casual players and as backups for when our raid is desperate for a healer due to someone unable to make it/mechanics. Ive been doing a ton of research (as I main dps) and this helped narrow things down. Thanks nubkeks!
I still find it so weird that disc priest are the dps dealing healer, Mistweaver was literally initially designed to be the heal through or with damage yet that design was almost completely scrapped.
They literally gave all of Mistweaver's design and tools to Disc Priest and Holy Paladin over the last few years. It's no wonder MW is such a lost, broken spec right now.
The less engaging days? Sure. I love that heals are forced to DPS now to clear higher content. "Only healing" is, more often then not, just an excuse to be lazy. There will be downtimes with no real dmg or threats hitting your team - why do nothing then? It's not like tanks take breaks generating aggro and DPS don't stand around for large amounts of time, waiting for the heal to up the team either. Also, if you full-heal every single time a bit of dmg gets through you will overheal anyway, which is a terrible habit to develop, ESPECIALLY in M+.So... rather than letting your team drop and do nothing most of the time... just DPS.
As a Rsham main since MoP healing dungeons isn't really that hard, it's even easier now that earth shield is baseline. The kit doesn't LOOK like it helps Rsham doing dungeons but actually in new content, especially at the beginning of an expansion the mastery really shines (less health, heals more), earth ele is always a godsend when the tank pulls a lil too much and gets slammed, extra interrupt to the dungeon is always handy. If you like the idea of Rsham, definitely would recommend!
Blizzard, please put down the development resource draining "expansion long/temporary borrowed power systems" and spend your development resources on core class mechanics first and foremost, again.
Choosing Druid. Restro for Raids and M+ as a Guardian. Paladin was also on my list, while I can see myself playing prot, I can not see myself enjoying heal pala. But with als these changes lately, I might reconsider my choices.🤷♂️
I still wonder why monk healers don't use soothing mist to make their vivify and enveloping mist instant cast. Also spread reneweing mist to heal every1 at once with vivify who are covered by ur renewing mist. Did i miss something there cuz it drives me crazy sometimes seeing monks wasting time on casting vivify or enveloping mist.
Not saying that I disagree with the list and all but I always find it odd when youtubers or streamers rank things based on how "fun" they are. Fun is largely subjective and quite significantly impact how useful the "list" are to those that actually needed the list in the first place (eg. newer players or people who wanted to see how the patch / content developed).
mw is the 3rd healer you want the testing yesterday showed how strong they are mobilty/tankiness and throughput + the best singeltargetheal that cleaves which is important in castle nathria also 3 heal cooldowns i cant see druids holypriest or paladins being above them in a raidsetting and in m+ they are just below druids who are and remain the kings
I feel like Holy Paladin is going to get a HP generation buff early in the expansion and then it's going to be a blast to play, but I really don't enjoy it in it's current state because the HP generation is just too barren, especially when you can't get in melee range. They need to make Judgement generate HP at a bare minimum.
Been playing HPaly. For raid, your aoe healing is waaayy better than baseline BFA HPaly, and i really enjoy HP. However, its numbers are too weak atm, and LoD having a target cap is ridiculous and makes the Shadowbreaker lego almost worthless. Since its a cone and has a baseline 20y range, it can be difficult to optimize it as is considering its dependant on your group's positioning. Also, Judgment not generating HP is BS
I really do not understand why it is a cone and not just auto targets people. I know in raid people are stacked in few groups in most situation but this make healing more difficult as you also need to attack mobs to generate holy power. Yes, Beacon of Virtue is great but LoD target cap is just bad thing. It is just no ok that HP have to work so hard to get similar healing result as any other char just sitting on their asses.
I’m pretty excited to see how spirit shell fits into mythic plus for disc. I’m curious to see how the maldraxxus unholy nova rework will look. They haven’t done it yet but I am hoping that it’s better than mind games so I can pick the one I want not the one I feel obligated to as disc
As always I'm mostly torn between Shaman and Priest. I haven't enjoyed MW since their "rework" in Legion, never could get into Paladin and I love Restoration Druids but hate shape shifting and bar swapping.
I don't know why you would list mistweavers as being the lowest rated healer in shadowlands. Invoke Yu'lon wasn't represented correctly at all in this video. The strength of Yu'lon doesn't come from the healing it does on it's own. The main strength of the ability is that it empowers your enveloping mists and spreads enveloping breath to 5 people each time you cast enveloping mists. The healing that enveloping breath does is insane and Yu'lon is one of the strongest raid cooldowns for healing if used correctly. Also, Chi'ji is a dead talent. It was nerfed too hard and now it is never worth it to play outside of maybe doing keys; you lose more than you gain by pressing Chi'ji. Fae stomp did get buffed but it is overhealing a lot judging from raid testing which makes it the weaker choice when compared to Fallen Order which provides an insane amount of healing and a respectable amount of damage over 25 seconds. If you spread out your usage of Yu'lon, Revival, and Fallen Order, no healer at the moment can compare to the amount of sustained HPS that you'll do for that minute of time respectively. Mistweaver is actually one of the strongest healers in the game at the moment with only Disc priest and Rshaman comparing to it in terms of healing throughput. Honestly, as a content creator I know you cannot be right all the time and in the end of the day it is your opinion. But you should really do your research before publishing a video and atleast get insight from top players of each spec so you can get their opinions on the strengths and weaknesses of the specs that you are covering.
@@manthe3711 Soothing mist is rarely ever used, you lose hps and mana by using it constantly before using vivify and enveloping mist. It's more of a beginner trap than anything honestly
As I said in the intro, about 30% of the consideration is based off power and 70% off fun. Power can change with tuning ESPECIALLY the strengths you're highlighting which are purely healing numbers and are extremely likely to get tweaked (compared to things like resto druid utility which at this point they likely can't change). Doing a tier list purely off current spec tuning in this beta patch is cool too but that's not the purpose of this vid!
Anything is better than the BFAs Glimmer build. Hopefully holy paladins will see their former glory as in MoP / Legion. The dynamic and fluidity went down the shitter with BFAs 2-3 clicker hero healing.
I think you underestimate resto shaman for M+. It is able to do more damage, more on demand healing and more offensive/defensive utility than disc priest. Everyone turns a blind eye to it and it blows my mind.
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The RUclips Algorithm really has done me a favor showing me this video. I followed you in thr good ol' Heroes Days and was very surprised that you make wow content now. Very nice!
they had to do dps throughout the entirety of bfa... if you werent playing the ability which reduces hoylshock when u used CS then u were playing it wrong
I think I’ve figured it out, because you aren’t the only one saying a lot of DPS specs are weak and feel bad - it’s intentional. Make tanks and heals all feel really good and DPS feel weak and you’ll shift the balance towards the bottleneck roles and hopefully queue times for everything go down. I don’t think it’s poor DPS design. I think it’s intentionally bad design.
Hope none are as bad as Shamans of BFA.. there will be buffs later as more get there to max level with all classes. They can group heal it’s just not 5 at once.. more like 2-3 at a time.. swiftmend has gone back to pre-BC healing, but I wish instead of nourish they should have let libebloom, maybe just stack twice or just one on everyone. BC was did 3 sacks and on,y one bloom. So either give us the ability to put it on everyone or gave us a 2 stack on 5 people.l they could have just given us tree forms back because it can UO the others enough to make that up.. beside s every other Druid has a form to work in.. not healer and it was really fun because you’re slower but stronger
It's a bug that's been in the game for years now, I have no idea how it has survived this long but it is hilarious most of the time, until a raid member on a brutosaur is covering a mechanic...
What addons are you using for healing? I use healbot but I really like the UI of this one, I've never messed around too much with healbot so I'm not sure if it's just the same one
His feedback really was uninformed and if I wouldn't have seen the footage I would have thought that he just lied for the content. MW in reality is in it's worst state ever. Most of the abilities don't work. For example: We're getting healing orbs back. Yay! :D But you won't find them in the footage, because they're not even in the game. Only on some tooltips. It's a little taste of ALL the really grave wounds MW has right now. Most shit is buggy, underperforming and they won't scale with equip. They already had extreme problems with Haste and Mastery being outright worthless, but for Shadowlands Blizz is adding Diminishing Returns for secondary stats. So if you stack your only possible stats Crit and Vers you'll get less value out of it. BTW: Crit / Vers are the reason why MW always scaled poorly, since every other healer has either Haste or Mastery as a better stat and gets the EXACT same value like MW out of Crit / Vers. 1 month left for literally re-designing MW to make it work at all. us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-monk-class-changes/490702/742 the only positive posts you'll find are about WW, not MW. There was a moment where they actually did something and made Chi-ji quite ok. But 1 week later it's nerfed to a state where the talent (Chi-ji) itself is now WORSE than the ability it overrides.
PaperCuT! Tzi not sure where you’re at with the scaling comment. Several things will be scaling with haste, not to mention we have a cooldown every single minute. We’re going to be very good in Shadowlands. Yes, there are a lot of bugs to fix. But Mistweaver doesn’t need a redesign at this point. You should involve yourself in the class discord if you want to stay informed.
"you might get bored" is completely subjective. I hope viewers know that lol monk and pally are gonna crush any content you do with them but thats not the message people are gonna get from this video.
To be fair, playing a "boring spec" also means you'll be able to push higher content earlier and easier than having to learn a complicated spec because it gives so much more opportunity to learn mechanics of encounters instead of focusing on spells and or rotations. I'm actually seriously considering switching from resto druid main to monk just because of this reason alone. Druid may be meta and considered really strong, but I personally struggle pushing the most out of my character just because there are so many things to keep track of (mainly because switching forms at the right moments is really difficult for me and there are so many buttons >.
i don't know how you came to this conclutions. but as a +15 player in mythics resto druid is #1 without any questions. especially with a warlock soulstone for 2x battlerez. resto shaman is #2 for m+ as it gives you the extra interrupt. this is very helpfull for higher keys. holy priest should be last place without even questioning it. it has nothing it adds to the group. the rest is inbetweeners. also dis priest is prob top of the inbetweeners but it is very hard to play sufficiently, especially for pugging. stay away from disc in pugs as they lack alot of communication so they dont "freakout heal". This is only my opinion anyways. in Raids i dont have enough experience to say for sure. shamans resto disc are obviously good.
also the saying "play what you think is fun" is fine and all, but if you want to be competitive at 10+++ just forget it. if you are fine with being a casual then go ahead and play holy priest and mistweaver. (mistweaver is awesome for pvp anyways)
playing every healer in pre patch now and i have to say that rdruid is waaay to weak compared to the others. maybe its the gear (or skill? haha) but ye. not very satisfied at the moment. my favs are holy priest and rshaman. anyway, ill give it another chance in shadowlands, thank you for the video :)
Hey Nub - I know this is a bit off-topic, but I'm looking at healing in Shadowlands but don't know how to set up my UI. I use ELVUI right now, but I'm wondering if you have any tips for setting up a healer's UI
I played Disc last expansion but honestly I don’t want to this expansion. It’s a bit too stressful for me because it’s all proactive. While that might seem a good thing, it’s very hard to catch up. You need to put atonement up on targets you *think* will take damage. This is okay in a party, or even just on tanks, but the duration is NOT that great. So there will be times you are doing atonement damage only to realize you have not been healing anyone cause the atonement dropped off. Next is the lack of easy movement. You think feathers are decent movement but I can’t tell you how many times that has failed or I need to be doing healing instead of spending a GCD on feathers. Idk it seemed like a lot of indirect healing.
yeah that's Disc xD The main heal you want to heal through is atonement bc it's mana efficient. the more proactive you are with cds the easier i've found it
Been a Resto Druid main since Molten Core, which btw was a HORRIBLE experience as a druid mind you XD .... I lvled my Drood full resto.... whitch btw was an even MORE HORRIBLE experience and you should never do this...... Had to go into cat form, get each mob down to half health, and come out and warstomp to stun the enemy, just to give me time to heal myself up and get back into kitty mode to finish it off. EVERY. MOB. I was a masochist but I got some renown for actually knowing how to heal, so the ends justify the OH GOD IT WAS HORRIBLE!!
Yay Mistweaver dead last AGAIN! It's not like it's been this way for the last THREE expansions, no no no, Blizzard has yet to be made aware of the specs shortcomings and then certainly fixes are incoming!
You underestimate the resto shaman to be honest. With all their utility I believe it will be one of the strongest healers at the start of the expansion.
1. Discipline Priest
2. Restoration Druid
3. Holy Priest
4. Restoration Shaman
5. Holy Paladin
6. Mistweaver
„frost mages got more defensives than havoc DHs have buttons to press in their core rotation“ made my day 😅
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@@Osprey1994 Truth hurts. ;P
I play more Vengeance than Havok, but I appreciate both spec's economy of buttons. I can put more toys on my bars.
Probably rerolling Priest this expansion - all 3 of their specs just seem so fun and enjoyable! Thanks for all the uploads Nub!
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@@celiok3795 came here to say this. I would have played priest if it wasn't for the current covenant situation
do u think Holy Priest is good for begginer? Peoples saying its the worst healer...
@@GachiBoi holy priest is absolutely fine if you're planning on play up to mythic +15 and heroic raiding. As always, it's best to find a guild to play with rather than PUGs
I can't decide between a priest or druid. They are both super fun.
We already had a resto sham in my new guild, so now I'm lvling a Holy Priest. I absolutely love it! Even before max level the rotation is so fun and responsive. You definitely feel like a strong important member of the team.
your categories on the fast forward bar are funny and underrated
You really nailed this, thank you! Pointed out the strengths and weaknesses of each while also pointing out what's fun and interesting. Only one thing I would add as a holy, and that is the fade skill. Yes, we are squishy and only have one save - my - skin skill. But when I play my resto druid the thing I miss the most is fade. It saves the tank so much work, and saves my life in the process 😊
I'm leaving my holy paladin behind and rerolling resto druid! Holy power seems quite difficult to manage because we can't always be at melee range to apply crusader strike and this will probably badly affect hps.
I've mained Disc Priest for every expansion in WoW and my favorite was Legion with Lights Wrath, and I feel like they have brought that back with Mind Games and I AM SO FRIGGEN PUMPED! :)
if Mind games is considered as shadow damage meaning if we use shadow covenant as talent it will be insane (of course with schism as well)
Key thing to note for Priests that want a good spec agnostic Legendary. One of them replicates Power Infusion onto you when you cast it on an ally. It's not the best for any spec, but it's still good, and will help you make friends.
I main Holy Priest. I don't really care about top performance, I don't raid, and it takes some convincing to get me into M+ key higher than 5. So hearing that what I'm going to do anyway is decent is nice, especially when the covenant I was going to pick anyway is good for it. Nothing this video said was going to change my primary spec and covenant choice, but it's good to know I'm accidentally doing it right.
I choose resto druid. I think HOTing everyone while i can move around is pretty fun. It can also do all roles if im bored healing.
Been Resto main since WotLK, to me nothing beats the freedom and utility and stacking up all my HoTs then switching to bear form to kite adds around. Plus in PvP they're just stupid broken, but that's never been a core focus for myself.
Dont you ever get sick of spamming globals on hots just in case a spike comes? I'm finding it hard to enjoy resto these days cause of that. I do like the skill ceiling in balancing dps and healing just enough though.
@@Schwanken Each people will enjoy different styles of healing, maybe resto druid doesnt fit your desired play style. For me I enjoy resto the most with mist 2nd.
i really missed how holy pala played back in days of early cata, holy radiance was awesome and i missed it.
Me toooo!!
I hope they make Holy Priests like they were in the end of Cata and early Mists. They were amazing.
I started playing WoW at the start of MoP and I mained a Frost Mage for the Alliance and a Holy Priest for the Horde. I dont have any reference for previous iterations of holy priest but I loved the hell outta it in MoP
I've played holypriest for many years and will stay at this specc at shadowlands too.
Thanks for boosting my positive vibes with him.
Most videos made me feel awkward, because of that "mimimi holy priests so bad"
Its not that holy priests are bad its just that disc is better so it gets overshadowed
Kalp Yeah i understood that. Just at many other videos people are saying that holy is the worst healer atm. But like you're writing - Just something different is atm better, doenst mean its bad
@@rocksoildgaming yeah but disc is only the best in organized known content though, if you go into a new raid holycan save your butts on progress a lot easier than disc can... but as a mess up on the high end is usually a wipe anyway... that doesn't count for much
I love holy priests as I feel like i'm actually a healer rather than a dps playing one.
@@GaneicMehiro Yeah they changed it very well. :) Also i love the new shadow playstyle
I want to play Mistweaver but it's so hard to justify when it feels like Resto Druid has sooooo many more tools. I feel like Blizzard needs to take a look at utility across the board and spread it out a bit better.
Play it. A lot of high M+ and top 10 raid healers are pretty high on Mistweaver. Still behind disc in raid and rdruid in M+, but not dead last like this video says. Top 2 or 3 in both settings.
As a former Resto Shaman main, I will be that person repositioning to help out the R Shaman with the chain heals
As much as I enjoyed your video, Resto Shaman can heal quite well single target plus, you didn't use totems much in here as they boost your healing (when players are spread) alot.
Yeah, and seriously... unless you do keys above 20 resto shaman is completely fine. That’s why I don’t like generalizations like that.
idk im leveling shammy and holy paladin and they are fun af i love the dmg
I play MW, and i really like it so i'm keen for Shadowlands :)
Oh, you're in for the worst experience ever :D
Only 1 month left to literally to fix the whole spec.
Thank you so much. I have been struggling hard in M+ content and it's nice to know that others are struggling as well with Resto Shaman. PUG groups are hard as it seems like most of them have no clue what they are doing. It is important to note that players this exp are much weaker than they were in BFA season 1. Gear drops less and less and mobs have been tuned up so the mentality of tank being like "hey I can pull whole room and heals can just out heal the damage" or dps mindsets of "we can just stand in aoe and deal dps cause healers can out heal it". Thing is we can't. You have to stop standing in aoe. This exp in every single dungeon and raid fight there is massive party/raidwide damage that is unavoidable and metric shit tons of aoe to dodge. Gotta dodge stuff cause having to use all my healing cds one trash pull is insane and even then gotta sit and drink to get mana back. Well thanks for reading my little rant. P.S. I'm resto shaman with all dungeons done at at least a +6 key on time.
Thank you so much for giving Holy Priest a fair shake!
Good vid - do remember that resurrection cloak is back for holy priest. Binding heal is also basically a defensive
Thanks for the vid. The thing for me, i see so many vids and opinions that i serieusly have no idea what to do anymore....who is right, who is wrong... i just gonna start with 1, level all healers and find out myself. Enjoyed the vid 👍
bfa Casual here, just based off this video looks like I'm staying Rdruid, tyty :)
try all the classes in prepatch anyway! maybe you'll find something you like :)
Restro druid is the best heals, and boomkin is one of the best dps in Shadowlands
@@---iy7bj really? I'm thinking of returning to the game after the first half of BfA was a big letdown for me gameplay-wise. I mostly play druid, so if it's at LEAST a viable choice in parties for mythic, I'll consider :D
Kinda want some personal feedback here... getting mixed reviews from boomkins recently :S
@@andrassalfay5869 Yes. Resto druid is the top ranked healing class, and the Boomkin is 2nd or 3rd in terms of DPS to the Rogue and Warlock.
@@---iy7bj thank you for the reply. im gonna look deeper into the topic now :)
The only thing more fun that MW in M+ was kitty weaving as a druid.
Yeah their utility shines in m+. If you enjoy the spec then more power to you, I think it will work well!
I'd switch Mistweaver and Holy Priest, otherwise I agree. Holy Priest defenses suck, their mobility sucks, and they're single target healing is pretty weak as well. They've very much a one trick pony, whereas Mistweaver checks way more boxes, especially in Mythic+.
Do you talk about Shadowlands Beta or live here? The comment suggests live.
@@papercuttzi7297 I agree with mistweaver and holy priest swapping in this ranking as well. He is talking about shadowlands. Mistweavers have 2 defensives and to playstyles that both work giving you variety in both raid and m+. Also mistweavers will be a beast in throughput until the other classes start to scale up from gear.
@@beastlyshotzful -So basically, we just handily ignore Priest having actual cooldowns, actual utility and actual scaling with stats? The only real con given was "I have to pay attention more regarding movement". Breaking news: Same applies so Palas since day 1. They're not crying.
Having 2 defensives is kinda... not relevant at all? If you die then because you fucked up. You shouldn't fuck up in the first place. Defensives are just helpful for the MW because they lack everything except for mana burn. Good for trash but nothing else.
Mistweavers will be "beasts" for the first bosses until anyone gets hand on equip. They won't scale... like AT ALL. Only a redesign can help them here. They only have 2 secondary stats that actually do anything for them: Crit and Vers, and even then they're exactly the same value as for ALL the other healers while those healers have Haste and / or Mastery as better stats. That's why MW always get outscaled by gear within the shortest periods of time. In Shadowlands stacking secondary stats will trigger DMR, so basically you get less value out of them. Perfect to trash an already underwhelmingly bad spec that has only 2 secondary stats at all.
It's hard to believe that you actually know what Mistweavers are.
@@papercuttzi7297 Actual that is more likely to change the expansion, but more spells are interacting with gust of mists. Mist weavers were given another cd to offset the problem. I'm not sure what you are talking about though, with mist weavers not scaling if haste or mastery. Mastery was one of the best stats you can use in m+ and it was worse in raids due to essence font and revival not having an interaction with master, which is why crit/vers were your best stats. Since there was a new cd with direct interaction with mastery and this may have mastery outscale vers at least for raiding.
A lot of the problem with Bfa was that their stat problems were over enhanced by corruption, where other healing classes we able to stack high amounts of stats and have better scaling. That was out of the norm and end of tier scaling.
Mist weaver has full interaction with haste so I am not sure what you are talking about with that. It affects your hots ticks per duration, cast times of spells, cd recover, gcd, and also will have added effect if you are running chi-ji. Haste isn't as great to stack for mist weaver as compared to a resto druid or disc priest, but it all other healing class outside of those two, mist weaver has more interaction with that stat.
So all in all, I'm not quite certain you know what you are talking about. Mist weaver will not have any issues with scaling until the end of the expansion and honestly the only problematic stat that will cause that is mastery, but if they add an interaction with revival utilizing gust of mist, than only one spell would be missing interaction and that would be essence font, but it has a half interaction currently that cause mastery to proc when direct heals are casted on the target and this proc from extend life from you best lego and also from bonedust brew, so mastery will be scaling far better.
They are both pretty bad tbh, and in similar ways. They both fill the niche of diverse throughput options, but have basically 0 utility. They both lack damage, especially passive damage (i.e. both are very active healers, and they have to stop healing in order to use GCDs for damage). I have seen Holy Priests make good use of Apotheosis in dungeons for pure damage, but they were few and far between.
While Mistweaver has more general mobility options, both specs are actually pretty bad at casting on the move (i.e. caster mobility).
Both are bottom tier, but luckily for them they have pseudo externals for tanks unlike Shaman, which probably puts them slightly ahead in M+. Both are boring too, tbh, but that's more subjective. Disc all the way baby :)
Mainly a raider so I am sticking with my Resto Shaman, also very excited about added utility coming back to the spec. If shaman won't do well in M+ content I do have a planned alt, warlock.
Just one thing I want to mention. In most footage I watch of resto shaman people are over using healing surge and chain heal. We moved away from the chain heal spam in WoD and healing surge is much more expensive and worse heal than healing wave and should only be used to heal allies at about ~20-30% health, not 50%+.
I've seen that too i try to only use healing surge after unleash life for M+ or use it to build high tide Then chain heal and ive also seen people not using spirit link totem and earth wall totem more loosely they then to save it
@@jerimiahwilson2813 True, earth wall totem is very good and should be used on any big trash pull and people are often scared to use spirit link totem because it is so strong, they end up using it maybe once when they could've used it 2 maybe 3 times in the same time.
Also, combining unleash life with high tide increases the potency of chain heal and it affects all targets hit for some massive heals, fun to play around.
I always use unleash life, it's too strong to ignore in any content.
I'm planning on playing mistweaver in sl. I just like leveling and running dungeons with friends so think that'll do me :)
YES i've been waiting for this!!!! i am doing my priest but my 2ndary will be my druid but i may do my shaman to change things up haha
Have mained priest since vanilla, and it looks like all three specs will be even more fun in Shadowlands! I feel like I kind of won the WoW class lottery! Thanks for a great vid!
My guild really needs alt healers to help lower ilvl/casual players and as backups for when our raid is desperate for a healer due to someone unable to make it/mechanics. Ive been doing a ton of research (as I main dps) and this helped narrow things down. Thanks nubkeks!
I still find it so weird that disc priest are the dps dealing healer, Mistweaver was literally initially designed to be the heal through or with damage yet that design was almost completely scrapped.
They literally gave all of Mistweaver's design and tools to Disc Priest and Holy Paladin over the last few years. It's no wonder MW is such a lost, broken spec right now.
Excuse me, disc used atonement before Mistweaver existed.
Resto druid hands down! as always great healer!
Remember when healers just healed. Those were the days.
I hate how mmos make healers have to dps all the time now. I havent played for that reason
Ya thank to Mists and their spinning Monk healers, jk, I would throw a little DPS on my disc priest.
Healers just healed and people thought they were gods...lol
The less engaging days? Sure. I love that heals are forced to DPS now to clear higher content.
"Only healing" is, more often then not, just an excuse to be lazy. There will be downtimes with no real dmg or threats hitting your team - why do nothing then? It's not like tanks take breaks generating aggro and DPS don't stand around for large amounts of time, waiting for the heal to up the team either. Also, if you full-heal every single time a bit of dmg gets through you will overheal anyway, which is a terrible habit to develop, ESPECIALLY in M+.So... rather than letting your team drop and do nothing most of the time... just DPS.
@@marvingonzalez926 Youre acting like healers couldnt DPS when nothing was happening before they were forced lol.
As a Rsham main since MoP healing dungeons isn't really that hard, it's even easier now that earth shield is baseline. The kit doesn't LOOK like it helps Rsham doing dungeons but actually in new content, especially at the beginning of an expansion the mastery really shines (less health, heals more), earth ele is always a godsend when the tank pulls a lil too much and gets slammed, extra interrupt to the dungeon is always handy. If you like the idea of Rsham, definitely would recommend!
I’ve really been wanting to take my rsham into SL as a main, my problem is still handling dungeons. Maybe I’m doing something wrong
Can resto sham deal any damage?
Blizzard, please put down the development resource draining "expansion long/temporary borrowed power systems" and spend your development resources on core class mechanics first and foremost, again.
that barrier you put down for disc was OP AF
Choosing Druid. Restro for Raids and M+ as a Guardian.
Paladin was also on my list, while I can see myself playing prot, I can not see myself enjoying heal pala.
But with als these changes lately, I might reconsider my choices.🤷♂️
I still wonder why monk healers don't use soothing mist to make their vivify and enveloping mist instant cast. Also spread reneweing mist to heal every1 at once with vivify who are covered by ur renewing mist. Did i miss something there cuz it drives me crazy sometimes seeing monks wasting time on casting vivify or enveloping mist.
what addon is your party HP bars? i really really like how that is set up
Would like to know that too
Bro i didn't know you wow'd, i started watching your content years ago when you were beast'modeing HOTS. Glad to see you beast-modeing wow.
Not saying that I disagree with the list and all but I always find it odd when youtubers or streamers rank things based on how "fun" they are. Fun is largely subjective and quite significantly impact how useful the "list" are to those that actually needed the list in the first place (eg. newer players or people who wanted to see how the patch / content developed).
mw is the 3rd healer you want the testing yesterday showed how strong they are mobilty/tankiness and throughput + the best singeltargetheal that cleaves which is important in castle nathria also 3 heal cooldowns i cant see druids holypriest or paladins being above them in a raidsetting and in m+ they are just below druids who are and remain the kings
I feel like Holy Paladin is going to get a HP generation buff early in the expansion and then it's going to be a blast to play, but I really don't enjoy it in it's current state because the HP generation is just too barren, especially when you can't get in melee range.
They need to make Judgement generate HP at a bare minimum.
No, Hpal getting mana-free heals is strong enough; giving them more will end up like BFA when mana was not a resource for them.
Been playing HPaly. For raid, your aoe healing is waaayy better than baseline BFA HPaly, and i really enjoy HP. However, its numbers are too weak atm, and LoD having a target cap is ridiculous and makes the Shadowbreaker lego almost worthless. Since its a cone and has a baseline 20y range, it can be difficult to optimize it as is considering its dependant on your group's positioning. Also, Judgment not generating HP is BS
I really do not understand why it is a cone and not just auto targets people. I know in raid people are stacked in few groups in most situation but this make healing more difficult as you also need to attack mobs to generate holy power. Yes, Beacon of Virtue is great but LoD target cap is just bad thing.
It is just no ok that HP have to work so hard to get similar healing result as any other char just sitting on their asses.
Very well done... TYVM
Okay but mistweaver with the “teachings of the monastery” legendary is SO FUN
I’m pretty excited to see how spirit shell fits into mythic plus for disc. I’m curious to see how the maldraxxus unholy nova rework will look. They haven’t done it yet but I am hoping that it’s better than mind games so I can pick the one I want not the one I feel obligated to as disc
i just love seeing procs in holy pala :)
Your UI looks really neat here! What addons are you using?
Love your content! Great videos!
I'm sorry but you are undervaluing Holy Paladin there.
As always I'm mostly torn between Shaman and Priest. I haven't enjoyed MW since their "rework" in Legion, never could get into Paladin and I love Restoration Druids but hate shape shifting and bar swapping.
Hej! What addon do you use to make your party frames look like that? It looks similar to the elvui one. Id like that one you are using too ;)
I don't know why you would list mistweavers as being the lowest rated healer in shadowlands. Invoke Yu'lon wasn't represented correctly at all in this video. The strength of Yu'lon doesn't come from the healing it does on it's own. The main strength of the ability is that it empowers your enveloping mists and spreads enveloping breath to 5 people each time you cast enveloping mists. The healing that enveloping breath does is insane and Yu'lon is one of the strongest raid cooldowns for healing if used correctly. Also, Chi'ji is a dead talent. It was nerfed too hard and now it is never worth it to play outside of maybe doing keys; you lose more than you gain by pressing Chi'ji. Fae stomp did get buffed but it is overhealing a lot judging from raid testing which makes it the weaker choice when compared to Fallen Order which provides an insane amount of healing and a respectable amount of damage over 25 seconds. If you spread out your usage of Yu'lon, Revival, and Fallen Order, no healer at the moment can compare to the amount of sustained HPS that you'll do for that minute of time respectively. Mistweaver is actually one of the strongest healers in the game at the moment with only Disc priest and Rshaman comparing to it in terms of healing throughput.
Honestly, as a content creator I know you cannot be right all the time and in the end of the day it is your opinion. But you should really do your research before publishing a video and atleast get insight from top players of each spec so you can get their opinions on the strengths and weaknesses of the specs that you are covering.
Soothing Mist on the GCD is just...urgh.
@@manthe3711 Soothing mist is rarely ever used, you lose hps and mana by using it constantly before using vivify and enveloping mist. It's more of a beginner trap than anything honestly
Im so glad someone else has done more research on mistweaver than most of these content creators. I appreciate it more than you know
As I said in the intro, about 30% of the consideration is based off power and 70% off fun. Power can change with tuning ESPECIALLY the strengths you're highlighting which are purely healing numbers and are extremely likely to get tweaked (compared to things like resto druid utility which at this point they likely can't change). Doing a tier list purely off current spec tuning in this beta patch is cool too but that's not the purpose of this vid!
@@DreamzyG I see someone isn't aware of the fact that PvP exists.
Mained a rogue until WotLK and then went Resto. Looks like I will be Resto again this expansion.
Way of the Crane should be baseline, it was a huge mistake to separate talents into pvp and pve
It was the farthest thing from a mistake to separate pvp from pve. I do agree that it should be baseline tho.
Now idk if I wanna main Druid or Priest 🧐
Anything is better than the BFAs Glimmer build. Hopefully holy paladins will see their former glory as in MoP / Legion. The dynamic and fluidity went down the shitter with BFAs 2-3 clicker hero healing.
Great commentary
I think you underestimate resto shaman for M+. It is able to do more damage, more on demand healing and more offensive/defensive utility than disc priest. Everyone turns a blind eye to it and it blows my mind.
Thank you for another amazing video
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I'm planing on doing some healing this expansion. What are the best add-ons?
Hey ! What addon are u using for Disc Priest ? The one between the 2 portraits =)
Weakauras!
The RUclips Algorithm really has done me a favor showing me this video. I followed you in thr good ol' Heroes Days and was very surprised that you make wow content now. Very nice!
Having to do a DPS rotation as holy paladin is cool but it's such a huge nerf
they had to do dps throughout the entirety of bfa... if you werent playing the ability which reduces hoylshock when u used CS then u were playing it wrong
I think I’ve figured it out, because you aren’t the only one saying a lot of DPS specs are weak and feel bad - it’s intentional. Make tanks and heals all feel really good and DPS feel weak and you’ll shift the balance towards the bottleneck roles and hopefully queue times for everything go down. I don’t think it’s poor DPS design. I think it’s intentionally bad design.
Hoping disc priest will be the best, I always enjoyed them as healers. They were simplistic and didn’t have thousands of buttons / CDs to click
how do you figure? I can't seem to do well on disc how many keybinds do you use? thx if you reply
Welcome to wod paladin. We lost that in legion for all three specs. Enjoy their return to the fullest :)
Hope none are as bad as Shamans of BFA.. there will be buffs later as more get there to max level with all classes. They can group heal it’s just not 5 at once.. more like 2-3 at a time.. swiftmend has gone back to pre-BC healing, but I wish instead of nourish they should have let libebloom, maybe just stack twice or just one on everyone.
BC was did 3 sacks and on,y one bloom. So either give us the ability to put it on everyone or gave us a 2 stack on 5 people.l they could have just given us tree forms back because it can UO the others enough to make that up.. beside s every other Druid has a form to work in.. not healer and it was really fun because you’re slower but stronger
hey nubkeks how is that frost mage in your party casting spells while mounted ? is it a new talent ?
yes, i need answers to this question
It's a bug that's been in the game for years now, I have no idea how it has survived this long but it is hilarious most of the time, until a raid member on a brutosaur is covering a mechanic...
What addons are you using for healing? I use healbot but I really like the UI of this one, I've never messed around too much with healbot so I'm not sure if it's just the same one
Me coming into this video: I know he hates mistweaver he hates us
My face when we get last place: 👁👄👁
Dude I’m too healer in most raids
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His feedback really was uninformed and if I wouldn't have seen the footage I would have thought that he just lied for the content. MW in reality is in it's worst state ever. Most of the abilities don't work.
For example: We're getting healing orbs back.
Yay! :D
But you won't find them in the footage, because they're not even in the game. Only on some tooltips. It's a little taste of ALL the really grave wounds MW has right now.
Most shit is buggy, underperforming and they won't scale with equip. They already had extreme problems with Haste and Mastery being outright worthless, but for Shadowlands Blizz is adding Diminishing Returns for secondary stats. So if you stack your only possible stats Crit and Vers you'll get less value out of it.
BTW: Crit / Vers are the reason why MW always scaled poorly, since every other healer has either Haste or Mastery as a better stat and gets the EXACT same value like MW out of Crit / Vers.
1 month left for literally re-designing MW to make it work at all.
us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-monk-class-changes/490702/742
the only positive posts you'll find are about WW, not MW. There was a moment where they actually did something and made Chi-ji quite ok. But 1 week later it's nerfed to a state where the talent (Chi-ji) itself is now WORSE than the ability it overrides.
PaperCuT! Tzi not sure where you’re at with the scaling comment. Several things will be scaling with haste, not to mention we have a cooldown every single minute. We’re going to be very good in Shadowlands. Yes, there are a lot of bugs to fix. But Mistweaver doesn’t need a redesign at this point. You should involve yourself in the class discord if you want to stay informed.
So basically Blizz are taking us back to Cata then.
"you might get bored" is completely subjective. I hope viewers know that lol monk and pally are gonna crush any content you do with them but thats not the message people are gonna get from this video.
To be fair, playing a "boring spec" also means you'll be able to push higher content earlier and easier than having to learn a complicated spec because it gives so much more opportunity to learn mechanics of encounters instead of focusing on spells and or rotations. I'm actually seriously considering switching from resto druid main to monk just because of this reason alone. Druid may be meta and considered really strong, but I personally struggle pushing the most out of my character just because there are so many things to keep track of (mainly because switching forms at the right moments is really difficult for me and there are so many buttons >.
i don't know how you came to this conclutions. but as a +15 player in mythics resto druid is #1 without any questions. especially with a warlock soulstone for 2x battlerez. resto shaman is #2 for m+ as it gives you the extra interrupt. this is very helpfull for higher keys. holy priest should be last place without even questioning it. it has nothing it adds to the group. the rest is inbetweeners. also dis priest is prob top of the inbetweeners but it is very hard to play sufficiently, especially for pugging. stay away from disc in pugs as they lack alot of communication so they dont "freakout heal". This is only my opinion anyways. in Raids i dont have enough experience to say for sure. shamans resto disc are obviously good.
also the saying "play what you think is fun" is fine and all, but if you want to be competitive at 10+++ just forget it. if you are fine with being a casual then go ahead and play holy priest and mistweaver. (mistweaver is awesome for pvp anyways)
Hey which addon is that to get the players name/ health bars at the bottom and not the top left?
they nerved diszi hard - 2 days ago - would you still say its best? (6% less dmg overall / 1,65 spell (bevore 1,80 ) for shields
playing every healer in pre patch now and i have to say that rdruid is waaay to weak compared to the others. maybe its the gear (or skill? haha) but ye. not very satisfied at the moment. my favs are holy priest and rshaman. anyway, ill give it another chance in shadowlands, thank you for the video :)
Hey Nub - I know this is a bit off-topic, but I'm looking at healing in Shadowlands but don't know how to set up my UI. I use ELVUI right now, but I'm wondering if you have any tips for setting up a healer's UI
What addon are you using?
Amazing content as always, do you even sleep?
Sleep is the cousin of death
I love resto dudu and like always gonna main it. I hate feral and balance tho.
It's sad that people even talk about mw in a constructive way when they never made a monk patch as promised.
What add on are you using?
Is this an add-on that you use for the layout ?
I played Disc last expansion but honestly I don’t want to this expansion. It’s a bit too stressful for me because it’s all proactive. While that might seem a good thing, it’s very hard to catch up.
You need to put atonement up on targets you *think* will take damage. This is okay in a party, or even just on tanks, but the duration is NOT that great. So there will be times you are doing atonement damage only to realize you have not been healing anyone cause the atonement dropped off. Next is the lack of easy movement. You think feathers are decent movement but I can’t tell you how many times that has failed or I need to be doing healing instead of spending a GCD on feathers.
Idk it seemed like a lot of indirect healing.
yeah that's Disc xD The main heal you want to heal through is atonement bc it's mana efficient. the more proactive you are with cds the easier i've found it
Hi! Awesome vid, really sweet.
What’s the raidframes addon you use? :x
hello! im new to healing can i ask who do u get your UI too look liek yours!? cuz it looks pretty usefull for healing!
@12:05 I appreciate the Irish flag 🇮🇪 😁
Nise Viedeo, what healing addon u use? :)
"frost mages got more defensives than havoc DHs have buttons to press in their core rotation" As the frost mage dies lmfao 14:34
Been a Resto Druid main since Molten Core, which btw was a HORRIBLE experience as a druid mind you XD
.... I lvled my Drood full resto.... whitch btw was an even MORE HORRIBLE experience and you should never do this......
Had to go into cat form, get each mob down to half health, and come out and warstomp to stun the enemy, just to give me time to heal myself up and get back into kitty mode to finish it off.
EVERY.
MOB.
I was a masochist but I got some renown for actually knowing how to heal, so the ends justify the OH GOD IT WAS HORRIBLE!!
Holy priests will be the surprise this expansion
is mind games castable at bosses?
Are these new target frames or is it an addon of some sort?
Yay Mistweaver dead last AGAIN! It's not like it's been this way for the last THREE expansions, no no no, Blizzard has yet to be made aware of the specs shortcomings and then certainly fixes are incoming!
Don't take one RUclipsr's word as the law. He just doesn't like MW. Watch his other videos where he talks about MW. You will see what I mean.
What healing add on are you using??
You underestimate the resto shaman to be honest. With all their utility I believe it will be one of the strongest healers at the start of the expansion.
Omg now we have find healers