I mean, I find it ridiculous that Americans haven't heard of Scania, but if I told about the non-Truck manufacturing part of SAAB, and mentioned the Fighter Jets, JAS 39 GRIPEN, oh of course they have heard of that...
"Did you know that European engines are more powerful than the ones in the US? That's because European engines are more powerful than the ones in the US! And since European truck engines have more power than US ones, it explains why European engines are more powerful than the ones in the US!" That's what this video sounded to me. I think American script writers are a bigger problem than American engines.
Diagram down below There's a difference between European trucks and Swedish trucks. The biggest and most powerful engines made on the European continent are 520hp for Renault, 530hp for Daf, 570hp for Iveco, 625hp for Mercedes and 640hp for MAN. Then you go to Sweden and you'll see that both Scania and Volvo has two engine specs each that are more powerful than that. Volvo with their FH16 650 and 750, and then Scania with their new R/S660 and 770. Volvo and Scania also make engines with more torque than everybody else. The new Volvo FH500 has "only" 500hp, but it has 2800Nm of torque. That's more than the Daf 530, Renault 520 and the Iveco 570. The Scania R/S590 has more torque than the 625hp Mercedes engine, too. The reason for these powerful engines is because they're made for Swedish roads, regulations and conditions. On the continent, most trucks are semi trucks with semi trailers with a max weight of 40 to 44 tons. In Sweden we drive something the Germans call a "Sweden combo". It's when a rigid chassis truck pulls a full trailer. A semi trailer only has wheels in the back and is made to be pulled by a truck with a fifth wheel, aka "Pivot disk". A full trailer has a set of axles in the front with a drawbar and a pivot mechanism fixed on the trailer, as well as another set of wheels in the back. The most common trailers you'll see in Sweden are 4-axle full trailers. They have a max weight of 38 tons. The 5-axle versions have a max weight of 44 tons. And that's just the trailers. These trailers are pulled by rigid trucks, usually 3-axle trucks, with a max weight of 28 tons if we add the max weight for each axle, but limited to 26 tons due to the short distance between the first and last axle. This makes the regular "Sweden combo" have a max gross weight of 64 tons (141000lbs). Then there are the Class 4 combos with a 4-axle truck, usually an 8x4, pulling 5-axle full trailers. These are most often excavation trucks or lumber trucks and they have a max gross weight of 74 tons (163000lbs). Then there are the ones still in their testing phase. They usually consist of an 8x4 truck pulling a dolly and B-train. A B-train is a trailer with a fifth wheel on the back of it and another trailer attached to it. These beasts can weigh up to 98 tons (216000lbs). These are usually wood chip trucks but they only drive short distances because the dispensation can be expensive. Usually from a train terminal to a heating plant. Needless to say, you're not pulling 98 tons with a 500hp truck, it's just not happening. So this is why Scania and Volvo makes more powerful trucks than anyone else. I'll also throw in a little diagram down here to show the axle configs on our trucks: Regular European 44 ton semi truck: Numbers indicate max axle pressure in metric tons I_____________________I |--O-----O-O O-O-O 8 20 24 Max gross weight limited to 44 tons and 18.75 meters in length. Sweden Combo: I--O---------O--O----I---I-o-o-------------------o--o---I 8 20 I 18 20 I Drawbar Max gross weight limited to 64 tons and 24 meters in length Class 4 combo: I--O-------O-O-O--I---I-o-o---------------o-o-o--I 8 26 18 26 Max gross weight of 74 tons and max length of 25.25 meters. Beast Combo: I_____ I--O-------O-O-O--I---I-o-o-------------o-o-o I-----------------o-o-o-- 8 26 18 26 26 Limited to 98 tons and 34.5 meters in length.
"There's a difference between European trucks and Swedish trucks". Just to let you know: Sweden is an European country as well so I don´t understand what you´re talking abvout.
@@r.c.m.vanderheijden7597 Bro, I'm Swedish. I know full well that Sweden is a European country. But we're not part of the European main continent, we have a different climate, different terrain and different laws and regulations than every other country down on the continent. Scania and Volvo make trucks for Swedish laws and regulations. Sturdier frames, more powerful engines to be able to pull the heavier loads, etc. ReCo Drive (Remote Controlled Driving) and the Sprider machines, for example, are only available for Scania and Volvo. Because Spridermaskiner AB is a Swedish company. Swedish first, European second.
@@tntfreddan3138 You can't say "European" trucks then... What defines European trucks if Swedish trucks aren't European? You can argue that Swedish trucks might be special because they're designed with Scandinavian climate, terrain and laws in mind... One thing the video was right about, was the difference in terrain and laws between European countries. Even between EU members. In Denmark, another Scandinavian country and neighbor to Sweden, you'd also see Volvo and Scania on the roads, while our laws are different from Sweden they're also different from many other countries within Europe. ReCoDrive is NOT just for Volvo and Scania... Volkswagen Group controls 100% of the shares in Scania AB... It's really not "Swedish first, European second", lots of export is happening!
A newton is the SI unit of force, equivalent to the force needed to accelerate one kilo by one metre per second squared. A newton-metre is the torque you get on one end of a metre long bar by applying one newton of force to the other end. Or it’s about one and a third foot-pounds if you just want a US friendly value.
So, if I understand correctly: Jimmy wants a new couch wich weighs 45 pounds, (idk how much that is im eu) costs 750$ and his train is running off schedule by 15 hours the mass of the sun must be 12 right?
US don't use metrics. They have chosen to be the selected few with imperial system along side modernized science powerhouses such as Myanmar and Liberia😂
the federal weight limit in the US is NOT 80 tons (short\US) it is 40 tons US\Short or 80,000LB which is 36.287 tonnes, while for Europe its 40 tonnes as a baseline for comparable 5 axle combination of tractor unit and semi trailer, with more in some parts of Europe
@@yvesd_fr1810 if you are talking the US then at an interstate level it is 80,000LB which is 40 tons US\Short, 80,000LB which is 36.287 tonnes (tonnes IS Metric) before you run into permits, if you are taking Europe, then as a baseline (baseline being the general overall starting point without involving exception like the NL, Scandinavia and Finland etc - given we want to talk comparatives) then that baseline comparative on 5 axles is 40 tonnes which is 88,184LB or 44.09 tons US\Short (i.e. the weight you can run across Europe), before you move to other higher exceptions or 6 axle combinations to 44 tonnes or more (i.e. the point is to make as fair as posable comparison between travaling across the US via interstate vs across Europe - given individual states in the US have higher weight exceptions just as individual European country's do) US\short\customary tons are smaller than both tonnes and imperial\UK\long tons: US\short\customary = exactly 2000LB or about 907KG Tonne (metric) = about 2204.6LB or exactly 1000kg UK\imperial\long ton = exactly 2240LB or about 1016kg
@@livedandletdieBritish imperial system (or also system of imperial units) is a system of units of measurement adopted in the British Empire and the United Kingdom, It developed from what were originally known as English units, an evolution of the Roman units of measurement and those used by the Anglo-Saxon populations[1]. It was in turn the basis for the US customary system. therefore American measures are Italian, miles and pounds are Roman measures😂
Volvo and Scania are both from Sweden and here we allow 25.25 metre (83 feet) long and 74 metric tonnes, and just a couple of months ago that limit were changed to 30.5 metres (100 feet) and 95 metric tonnes on some roads. Finland got similar limits, and maybe some other European countries too.
@@DNA912 That is probably true. I think I've heard that they have larger trucks in the Netherlands also but I'm not sure. Anyway, on the 25m trucks you get 3 6m stacks of timber and on the 30m truck you get 4, saving about 20% fuel if I remember correctly.
I would assume - and do not know - that somewhere in these regulations is the notion of pressure per axle or even wheel? Aside, in the Netherlands with loads of camera portals over the roads, some of them monitoring speed limits over stretches of road, incidentally on the motorway (highway) you'll see the announcement of a weighing point with camera, where axle pressure is measured. As lorry/truck drivers knew exactly where these points are and car drivers would not pay attention, you had lorries moving from the right (slowest) lane to the one next to that seemingly for no reason. Let me guess, they knew they would be too heavy. The other day I noticed the second lane now also has a measurement loop in the road surface. As this country was built i the sedimentation (i.e. flood) plane of the North Sea from the West and of larger rivers in the East, the soil is very soft and the water table may be only between 1 and 2 feet deep in many places. This means that (a) it is hard to build a smooth road, and (b) roads can easily be distorted when design limits are exceeded. A country one a higher rocky plateau does not have these specific problems, so if it does not suffer from local tectonic plate movements, then weight and axle pressure may not be a big deal.
@@jpdj2715 There are of course :) I'm not an expert but had a quick look and there appear to be four classes, BK1-BK4, that specify different weight limits depending on wheter if it is a single axle and up to 3 axles close together (bogie load?), from 8-11.5 tonnes for the lowest single axle up to 11-26 tonnes for the largest tripple axle (at 4.7 metres from the first to the third wheel).
There is a single word that describes the difference between Europe and the U.S.: Brenner. The Brenner is a pass between Italy and Austria. It is short but steep from both sides, with more than 2000 ft of elevation differences within less than 30 miles from both sides. South of the pass is the harbour of Genova, where all the big cargo ships from Southeast Asia land, and north of it there is Central, East and Northern Europe. Basically, all imports from Taiwan and China have to cross the Brenner. No freight hauling company will buy a truck which struggles to get over the Brenner. And yes, it's not only the torque at this pass. Trucks actually need the power.
The vast majority of trucks in Europe have something around 400..500 horsepower. The 700+ hp engines are rarely sold in central Europe, probably in the low single digit percentage.
Actually those high horsepower engines are pretty common in central Europe as roads and climate are very similar to Scandinavia in Switzerland and Austria. What you probably meant was continental Europe.
To add to that, older infrastructure often involves tighter turns or inclines because it wasn’t originally built with trucks in mind. So, that often means a slower speed, but a lot more power is required to go up the same hill at a slower speed, because higher speeds equal more momentum. Think of being on a bike while going uphill. It’s much easier to maintain a comfortable speed than to have to go slow to account for tight turns/bumps/oncoming traffic etc.
I would Recommend watching "Volvo Trucks - Volvo Trucks vs 750 Tonnes: An extreme heavy haulage challenge" it's a great demonstration of how powerful the European trucks truly are! P.S. Keep up the amazing videos!
40 metric tons combined weight (truck, trailer and load) are the norm. If you carry intermodal shipping containers it is 44 metric tons. However, there are oversized load transport, that can be al ot heavier. The record is a combination of three tractor units, that is approved for 1,002 metric tons. You can find a video about it with English subtitles here: ruclips.net/video/pOBfwDfvvLM/видео.html
This is so nice. Also the dialect of those guys, really heartwarming... Maybe we will see that thing dressed up as Cybertruck and driven by Elon himself at Cologne Karnival? 🤣
Here in Australia we have B-Double's and we have Road Trains outside of cities they can have 3, 4 or even 5 trailers on them and motors up to 700 HP if you want look up some vid's about our outback trucks and the city B-Doubles that get around our cities
road trains are not legal yet in The Netherlands I believe, but they were considering it a while ago to limit the amount of engines on the road to transport the same amount of stuff.
The road trains are so cool! The most important feature on them tho is not the engines but the gearboxes. Saw a documentary on one that had a 36-speed automatic one and i just kept imagening shifting 36 gears manually XD
in Iceland, the maximum weight on the main roads is 44.000kg / 97.000lb for a 5 axle semi, but if you have a 6 axle combo on doubles on the trailer, you can be up to 49 tons, 49.000kg / 108.000lb. everything over that, and you have to get a special permit for. We generally go for higer output engines because of how mountainous our country is, so many go for 700hp+ engines, most choose either Volvo or Scania, those are the two main trucks people choose here, as they have the biggest engines, 750 and 770HP
also, in general, we dont have an old fleet of trucks, like with the biggest transportation/freight companies, they usually replace their trucks every 3-5 years.
Cultural thing there. In the EU, everything is smaller, a bit cramped sometimes, so we’re used to do more with less space. US cars always had big engines, and they were powerful. EU cars never had that, apart from the real luxury brands. Average family cars are way smaller and so are the engines. The US part of my family came over for their first visit long ago, they thought the cars here were toys. They probably thought the same about the streets and houses. As a side effect, we always got more power per unit from an engine. If you’ve only got 80cu, it needs to work harder than that 289 v8, right? And while building a truck engine, you don’t suddenly forget how to do that. In the same way, our trucks carry more load. It equals fewer trucks on the road, and thus fewer traffic jams. We need that. So our engines NEED to be more powerful, it’s not about bragging rights.
Yeah it's a perfect example of not having the luxury so you need to be creative to find solutions to problems. The USA has plenty of space, and is much more flexible in developing their plans. It's often what creates something better due to the problem that arises, and if successful it could even solve more than one problem. So many issues in the USA are due to their luxury of space. It's fantastic how they have almost 'endless' space, but the sprawl isn't cheap, and gives various problems from trouble to maintain the longer roads, to needing more gas due to the distance, and becoming car dependent, or having worse plumbing, power and internet further down the city. It has a downside to it that made life in America great for those who can afford that luxury. But as finances are tight on everybody globally, so is it for those in the USA and that's when you see these problems come up. In European countries there are also plenty of issues, but due to living compact, infrastructure is less of a problem.
America seems to be much more expensive than Europe, or at least Britain but 25 years ago it was the opposite. I wonder if the expense of maintaining all that "sprawl" has finally caught up with you, and particularly now that energy is so expensive.
Its funny cause even if US cars are bigger they often offer less space for bags and stuff like that while compared to EU counterparts. Nothing beats a skoda octavia in the carriage capacity :D
@@IntegroabysalUS cars are way bigger. And it makes sense because their roads are wide. There are so many Americans cars that wouldn’t fit on European roads. Americans drive SUVs and Pick up trucks.
Maximum weights for trucks in cross-border traffic in the EU are set in Council Directive 96/53/EC. The 40 or 44 metric tons maximum weight is also listed there. These trucks are permitted everywhere in the EU. Individual bridges may still have a stricter weight limit. However, individual member states may allow different regulations for domestic traffic in their national law (e.g. Sweden, Finland and the Netherlands allow heavier trucks)
Denmark recently change to 60 tons and most of the german federal state have local exception of 60 tons as well on top of Netherlands of cause. That makes 60 tons pretty much the standard for most of northern europe. Sweden and finland have recently raised the limit to 32 meter and I think its 84 tons
@@bil0725 on every road since trailers can have turning axles and both semitrailers go almost same trail as truck making then able pass threw pretty tight turns
I believe it is very common to see those trucks with the bed directly on the trucks, pulling a standard length semi-trailer behind them on a dolly in Sweden and Finland.
Truck + dolly-semi is a LHV Eco-Combi Type 2. I believe it is corresponding regulations for Type 1, 2 and 3 in Finland, Sweden and Norway (since 2008).
The maximum weight of a truck in Germany is 40 (and 44 for extra-long trucks) tons total. And I dare say most truck engines have around 400 hp or less. Yeah you can get big V8s with 750+ hp (or even more) but that's usually only for special occasions/requirements like hauling extra-heavy items. Then you require a special permit and get all sorts of headaches.
@@pe.bo.5038 Depends on. Volvo have 3 different engine classes, 11, 13 and 16. The lowest range that is used mostly larger distribution trucks and of road dumptruck is 330hp
weight limits in Europe and especially in the Nordics, are quite a bit higher in the USA. in denmark you can drive with up to 56 tons 112 thousand pounds. in Sweden up to 104 tons and Finland up to 114 tons. before it becomes special transport. Greetings, a Danish chauffeur.
I used to drive a 750hp Volvo FH16 here in Norway, driving from Larvik to Trondheim and then to Svarstad, and then back to Larvik and start over again. Sometimes I also drove a Scania with only 540hp from Larvik to Tønsberg with 12 stops on the way there.
We Europeans luv our details. A concept like 'at least the overall message was right' wouldn't fly very well here. (if you do it; do it right) Maybe a cultural thingy. :)
😂Take a look at Bruce Wilson, who lives in Florida. He was at Scania last year. He drove a few trucks. Also an electric one. He also owns a slightly older one imported from Canada. He's just waiting for the engine he bought in Finland.
Everything in this video is completely wrong... Just because there ARE engines for trucks available>700hp doesnt mean its common. For most countries in the eu the overall weight limit is around 40t (including the truck)! Thus common engine power is
So is your comment, full of deception :- twisting some truth to tell lies. Btw, how does weight have to do with power figures, they can be just overpowered, moreover EUs have hills, autobans, heavy traffic even on hilly terrains, & most importantly they carry more loads although weight limit maybe lower cause they have better lighter shorter trucks, needing that extra power.
The source video is incorrect. With a few exceptions, trucks in the EU can weigh a maximum of 40 metric tonnes. Most bridges in the EU are not certified for heavier trucks
@@ravenouself4181 In all honesty, the source video claims that european truck engines are more powerful mostly because in Europe trucks can have a total weight of 60 metric tons which is outright invented bullshit! In all honesty!
@@mothbreeder641 Oh Mister super smart ass speaking, yeah! I wrote, that with a few exceptions (Sweden is one such exception), countries in the EU (not Europe) have a limit of 40 metric tons total weight. The EU has 27 countries, Europe has 47 countries. How did your "super clever" post add even minimal additional information to my statement? Producing yourself as important smart ass is your main purpose in life, ain't it?
In Europe the maximum weight for normal trucks is 40t. Larger loads require more axles. Fact: The Paccar company is also the owner of the Dutch company DAF. The engine factory in Eindhoven also supplies engines to the USA.
In Sweden it's 74 metric tonnes, in Finland it's 76 metric tonnes. In Sweden there's an exception to the roof, on certain roads, during nights it's 80 metric tonnes.
There is no maximum weight for "Europe", there are different limits for different countries although many share the same limit, with northern countries, in particular Sweden and Finland at the top end for weight limits. Wich makes sense why the Swedes have the most powerful trucks as Volvo and Scania dominate the market almost exclusively in that region for heavy trucks.
well, yes, of course Newtonmeter is metric/SI. But NM and pound-force are not units "normal" people often deal with. Feet, yard and mile are familiar even for me as European, but pound-force I have rarely heard of. Even Newtonmeter does not mean much to me. Perhaps when deciding a new car, comparing two options, "bigger is better" (and generally Diesel have higher NW in lower rpm than petrol cars, right?), but out of context, I have no idea what a value of x MN means. Is 5 NM a lot or is only 200 NM a lot?
@@ClemensKatzer 1 newtonmeter is 1 newton at 1 m lever 1 pound/feet is 1 pound at 1 feet lever. Hang 1 liter water(1kg) on a 1 meter long Stick, it creates 10 newtonmeter in your hand. But anyway, you have a point it's not a daily thing for most people. Maybe for tightening car wheels but that's pretty much it.
Hello Ryan. Thanks for your vidéos ! I live in Paris France and I appreciate your curiosity and your humour. Since I work for the French railways ; let me reassure you : US freight trains are WAY MORE powerfull than ours !!! I really admire your trains ! 😊
fully loaded European trucks on the "Brenner motorway" have to stop to let their engines cool down despite their 750/760hp. the motorway seems "flat" but in reality it is so inclined that even cars struggle to go up it and this motorway is one of the most important in Europe. Here, a good 70% of the roads are mountain passes with an incline ranging from 5 to 15 or even more. in fact, American cars are criticized a lot here for the braking system which is not the height of our roads and overheats almost immediately
I believe you are wrong the trucks in both USA and Europe are in-line engines on most trucks, to my knowledge it is only Scania that still uses the V8 truck engines for their larger engine options.
@coot1925 ... European trucks in general are also better than US ones, more modern and more comfortable, US trucks have always been rather old fashioned, European trucks are eons ahead of the US ones.
@@jordanthorne9768no, no they don't. When you typed that comment the lowest-end V8 was a 530, before that it was the 520 from 2016. The last 500hp V8 engine from Scania is from 2012
Scania is a Swedish brand like Volvo and was the truck division of the Saab company, they also manufacture commercial and military aircraft. Very common in Australia/NZ busses and trucks.
Wait, what? Volvo comes from Saab? Really? Now it all makes sense.... I did not know that. I know when it comes to safety and reliability Volvo is the king of trucks. Even over Scania although they are up there. But I never knew why I guess if it comes from Saab then it makes sense, because Saab were the safest cars ever and anyone who cared for himself and those around him used to drive a Saab. Now we have a clear split in Audi drivers, because after Saab stopped all the Saab drivers switched to Audi and now Audi has Audi drivers that were always Audi drivers which are the same type of careless road pirates that drive Mercedes that you have to be on constant lookout for not to get run over by and you have the former Saab Audi drivers. When a Audi doesn't cut a pedestrian off by half a meter distance racing across the pedestrian crossing just ahead just because he can... then you know he used to be a Saab driver.
@@PinnacleNL SAAB and VOLVO do not come from the same company. They are competion like Chevy and Ford in US. During a short time SAAB and Scania was the same company. Then SAAB sold cars to GM and later Scania got sold to VW. SAAB still exsist but now they focus on aviation and weapons. Volvo Trucks is still Part of Volvo AB with Volvo busses, Volvo Penta and Volvo CE. But Volvo cars was first sold to Ford and later to Geeley.
Its kinda hilarious how the people in those comments accuse the creator of bad research only to fail at basic google searches themselves. The dude with his "40 metric tons total allowed in the EU" for example seems to just consider the limits of his own EU country. In Sweden for example, also a EU country as he should know, the total weight limit sits at 60 tons. In the Netherlands its 50 tons. This took me 2 minutes to google.
But if you go interstates you need to comply with the general EU limits. Sweden (and N, FI ?) also allows higher and longer trucks which wouldn't be allowed to drive in the (complete) EU.
@@reinhard8053 Doesn't matter. If certain trucks in Sweden are allowed to go with 60 tons, somebody is going to build the engines that can do this. And due to how manufacturing works those engines will end up in more trucks that do more trips than just those. This is by the way one reason why Volvo has so many of those super strong engines. They are a Swedish manufacturer and therefore have a certain background of building the engines needed in Sweden. Its not a surprise that those products also find their way into other EU countries afterwards.
The key point here is that the higher weight limits are mostly restricted to Scandinavia (and are often achieved with having more than one trailer). This is most likely why the strongest engines are sold by the two Swedish companies Volvo and Scania. If you want to travel across Europe, 40 or 44 tons are the limit you have to stick to (of course with exceptions for special loads that are heavier but cannot easily be split up into multiple parts).
@@aphextwin5712 Again, it doesn't matter. Even if Scandinavian countries were the only ones that NEED said engines, they won't just be sold there. If you manufacture engines that can pull a 60 ton truck up a mountain you won't ban countries without mountains or without 60ton trucks from buying them anyway. Volvo has a market share of 18% in Europe when it comes to their trucks. NOT just in Sweden.
In the Netherlands, we can take 50 Metric Ton. 50000kg = 110 231.131 pounds according to Google. If you take the special LZV class trucks, which have a special license to them, you can take 60 Metric Ton. The countries around us are all lower in Maximum Capacity. they range between 40/44 MTon.
Couple of legendary ones. The hook... ruclips.net/video/Jf_wKkV5dwQ/видео.html Van Damme... ruclips.net/video/M7FIvfx5J10/видео.html 750ton haul... ruclips.net/video/5UUz1zTZFfU/видео.html
Even the comments on the video, 80,000 lbs is equivalent to 36 metric tonnes, in Europe the max a truck can carry varies, from country to country starting at 40 metric tonnes up to 50 metric tonnes, in the UK the maximum allowed is 44 metric tonnes.
Scania and Volvo are Swedish brands and we have much heavier and longer loads compared to southern Europe. 74 metric tonnes (163 000 lbs) and 34.5 m (113 f) Finland has about the same and Norway little bit less. (lenght in sweden is very new used to be 24m or 25.25m depending on types of trailers.) Man (Scania engines), Renault (Volvo engines), Daf(Paccar engines), Mercedes and Ivecco has lower hp engines that fits more with how trucks are built in Southern Europe. Normaly up to 550-650 hp.
Finland only has 2 tonnes more for maximum weight but is or atleast was testing 94 tonnes too. doubt it will pass tho cause it would only make sense for earth movers and timber combinations, but even then the roads would just get destroyed if those became common.
I want correct you on your response! M.A.N produce there own engines but the last years they use Scania Gearbox! DAF produce there own engines MX 11 and MX 13 (except the smaller engines), they called it Paccar engines because DAF is the only truck manufacturer in the Paccar Group that design and made their own engines.
@@crocket1971 Scania and MAN started in 2014 to talk about joint engines in 2016 the work started and the engines are developed in Södertälje, Sweden by Scania. The work was lead by Florian Kraft that moved to Sweden from Germany. Around 2016 they also started to use Scanias gearbox in MAN trucks.
@@KristoferOlsson You mean the Traton engine plant in Neurenberg (Ger) started the production of the new 13lt engine develop by Scania and M.A.N and will use by Scania and M.A.N
This also extends to the car market. The cubic capacity of American car engines tends to be far greater than thar of their European counterparts. However European car engines still produce more power at the point where the rubber meets the road. It's not about how much fuel you burn, it's about how much burnt fuel is converted to energy. Thermal efficiency!
Yeah, I get why the video is disliked so much.. they at least could have converted the units and shown both when talking about the US and Europe. There's no way to actually be able to compare them if you only have the respective units. This feels like one of the videos certain companies generate with AI, pumping out 4-6 low quality videos a day. There was so much repetition of facts, bad research and missing unit conversions - the entire video could be shrunken down to one sentence: "The European terrain calls for more powerful engines." 🤷🏼♂️
Most trucks here in the UK are around the 500 hp range such as the scania 460 range of inline 6 engines they offer a good balance between fuel economy and power although in my experience they can be a bit underpowered when pulling the maximum weight of 44 tonnes up over the pennine hills to Manchester can be down to about 40 mph and working very hard to get over the hills
Those weight limits are not right. In most Europe countries (I think except Sweden and Finland) they are 40 tons. Thats 80 000 pounds. USA has also a weight limit of 80 000 lbs. Most trucks in Europe are 450-500 hp. The 700+ trucks are usually heavy duty special transport vehicles. No one in their right mind would use a monster like that to haul veggies to a supermarket. That clip is BS.
It is simple, to many mountains and not enough space to build road network with 5 lanes in each direction which means your truck must be able to haul up the steep hill as well as accelerate fast enough in order to not cause a traffic congestion after every other sharp turn or crossroad/stop sign.
Did anyone else notice the fact the EU trucks have engines in the 6lt range, compared to the 12-15lt of the US ones. Means you have bigger engines in the US, but you get far less out of it. Just think what an American engine could do if anyone over there knew how to actually make use of it....
thats crap,it might be EURO6 engine but the FH16 has 16.1l cubic capacity.D12 engine has 12.1ltand the D13 has 12.8lt(rounded up)the type name discribes the engine volume.
A. EU truck engines aren't in the 6lt range, there 12.4 to 16.1. EU trucks need more torque because they have more stop & go. A larger capacity engine will tend to be less highly strung, and therefore be longer lived- more important in the USA, where mileages are way higher. People drop LS1s in Miata's all the time and it doesn't affect their weight distribution, the big V8 hardly weighs more than the little I4 that was already in there. Torque over horsepower for trucks. Size over weight for cars
In Europe. The average trucks have 500 HP. And the weight limit is set to 50 ton (100.000 pounds) The lenght with truck and trailer is set to around 19 meters (62 feet) Some countries allow 60 ton.(120.000 pounds). But that means longer trailers. So truck and trailer 22-25 meters (72-82 feet).
I drove trucks and now drive buses. Most of the buses where i used to work are pretty mediocre as Norfolk is flat, but we had 2 buses which were from Wales, and In Wales the hills are bloody ridiculous! So one of the buses we had which was a small 40 seat bus had one of the larger double decker engines bludgeoned into the back of it and it was so fast it would burn your average family saloon off at the traffic lights up to about 45 mph, it would often end up in the workshop after snapping the driveshafts. Another one we had was a full size single deck bus with a tri-axle coach engine in the back, you could feel the steering go all light and floppy under acceleration due to a lot of the weight being taken off the front. Point is theres lots of places in europe that actually require this amount of power and its actually needed. I think some of the roads in Wales are like 28% gradient or steeper.
Volvo has a reputation for making some of the most powerful diesel engines for their trucks and buses and coaches in the world. And a lot of what the Swedish company has learned about building their engines has come from the very harsh winter environment that road users in Sweden and that part of the world have had to deal with. In order to understand more, you may want to watch the documentary about the history of Volvo.
I work for Volvo Trucks in the biggest service market logistics in the EU. We do deliver parts to the US, so I'm guessing they also ride there with our trucks. Proud to deliver them ❤
I absolutely love watching something whilst someone else interrupts and comments all the time with incisive / inane commentary like 'I've never heard of a Newton meter' and 'you guys haul more?' I could watch this stuff for hours.
Newtonmeter (Nm) is the metric variant of measuring Torque. In essence :1 Nm is the turning-force of 1 Newton (9,81 kg ~ 10 kg) attached to a 1 meter pole of whicht the other end is attached to a wall or something. The other end of the pole "sees" 1 Nm of torque.
i correct it a little....you can buy 770HP truck, it doesnt mean everyone of them is a 16liter v8, mostly the fleet trucks are 440-500 6cylinders. sometims even just around 300hp but that is an utter underdog meant as punishment lol :D
So US engines squeeze 500 hp from a 12 liter engine, but that little 6-liter Volvo one produces 200hp more at almost double the torque. Something tells me you lot need to up your engineering game ;)
The weight is a little tricky, in Europe we use metric ton (that is 1000 kilogram) total weight is 40000 kg in Germany, 44000 in Belgium and 50000 in the Netherlands. Also are six axles very common .
It is just a case of the right tool for the right workload. The long bed trucks of the US are great for those LONG ass highway journeys around the country and suit their mission parameters. The EU trucks suit their mission paramters with tight twisty roads, more mountains and hills, and difficult to navigate old cities. Better or worse depends on the mission. The EU trucks are absolutely better than US trucks, for europe. And the US trucks are absolutely better than EU ones for the US. Australia is interesting because it has a mix of both EU and US style trucks, but they're also a great example of how different styles get used for different missions.
I worked for a huge shipping company in Austria in the trailer maintance and had to be familiar with all the regulations, so I knew if I´m allowed to modify certain parts if needed and still pass the Association for Technical Inspection´s test. Maximum weight allowed here is 40 Tons ( 88 190lbs )T and in some cases up to 44 Tons ( 97000lbs). Those cases might be, for example, transportation of raw milk, or transportation of wood out of the forest, when the distance isn´t longer than 100km air line, which gives you some extra kilometers on the road. And the maximum lenght of the truck and trailer combined is 16,5m There are also exceptions on weight and lenght with strict regulations like being escorted, mostly by some safety assosiation and in rare cases by the police. In the rarest cases you´ll get an military escort. There for you need that powerfull truck with a trailer certified for that load, a ton of paper work, certified driver for such loads and so on. We once got a job to transport a Leopard tank from the military base 20km north of company´s location to a base located 50km south of us. On the way down they had to stop at the company for a qick repair. The driver broke left "overwide safety board" so I had to work on it. They came in with two civilian cars, and two smaller trucks full of recruits as a escort. Two of the dudes from a car overwatched what I was doing, dudes from other car talkd with the CEO and recruits were melting in the back of the truck under 36 C (100 F).
I'm a truck driver in Europe and most trucks have around 450-480hp. Those 700hp are for special work like haulage very heavy loads like tanks, trains ect.
In Germany, the maximal length include the trailer and the driver's cabin. Therefore, the driver's cabin got historically more "compact" than that of a US truck.
Current EU law (Directive 96/53/EC) limits the maximum permissible vehicle mass to 40 tonnes, except for intermodal transports using 40-foot containers which are allowed a maximum weight of 44 tonnes.
most trucks in Europe have between 450HP to 590HP(lots of Scania fans buy cheapest V8) since they don't have heavy loads. Not every transport is super heavy.
mt = Metric Tons By default, 40 tons (metric tons) is the normal weight limit across most of central Europe. However, in "combined traffic", meaning there's some other means of transportation involved (e.g. a container that was transported parts of its journey by ship or train) the limit is 44 tons. But some countries, especially the nordic countries (Sweden and Finland, not sure about Norway) as well as parts of Germany have legislation to allow for a semi truck to pull another trailer, or for a "normal truck" to pull a semi trailer. Those of course get significantly more heavy, and it is in those where you find the most powerful engines. Scania and Volvo are both Swedish companies and have the most powerful engines, while e.g. Mercedes traditionally doesn't see the Nordics as their main market and has a bit weaker engines. Not weak by any means, just not as powerful as the Swedish ones. One thing where I'm not fully certain is, in Europe fuel is comparable expensive. Engines run a lot of boost pressure to keep them efficient. That also brings the advantage of a higher maximum power output. Not sure how that compares to American engines, but I could imagine that engines over there are not optimized to squeeze out the maximum efficiency but might have some more focus on longetivity and simplicity.
Yes, in Norway, too. Formally it is called Modulvogntog Type 1 (dolly-semi), Type 2 (semi + centre-axle), and Type 3 (link-trailer + semi) in Norway, and can have a maximum length of 25.25 m and weigh 60 tonnes (m/t). This corresponds to EcoCombi/LHV Type 1, 2, and 3 in EU. Type 1, 2, and 3 has been allowed on selected roads in Norway since 2008 (start of six-year trials), this concluded in 2014 (trial approved and regulation made permanent), and network expanded in 2020 (Modulvogntog Type 1 and 2, but not 3, allowed on all Norwegian roads that already allows 24 m logging trucks). Many Norwegian roads are off-limits, due to more challenging terrain and some restricted road dimensions, compared to roads in Sweden and Finland.
Even my car needs that much horsepower to get into my driveway. lol. I have friends from the us visiting me and they where like "hell no, not gonna drive down there".
The torque of an engine means very little. This is why a truck has gears. The gear changes the torque from the engine to the axle to what is necessary for the truck to move most effectively.
I am a truck driver i transport forklifts with a kenworth T880 with a Cummings Q15 about 450HP. One of the advantages of high horse power in European trucks believe it or not don't work as hard so as to save fuel at slower speeds
Ryan you have heard of Scania, you have heard about it's parent company, Saab, and it's company main product... JAS 39 GRIPEN, the fighter Jet every nation on Earth wants to have.
In Sweden 🇸🇪 trucks like Scania and Volvo have bigger engines is because trucks with trailers are allowed to be 24m and pull 64 tons of weight. Right now road trains are being tested at 31m.
newton-meter is a very simple concept. It's a torque that is equal to one Newton pushing on the end of a meter-long moment arm. 2 meters with one Newton would end up in 2Nm and 10 meters with 50 newtons would give you 500 Nm torque.
About 99% of the trucks I've seen here in Europe are single drive axle, cabover trucks because of the roads and elevations they traverse. There are a lot of hairpin turns on some of these roads also. They also have stronger jake brakes on them because of the steep grades on some of the more mountainous roads. There are also a lot of two lane roads here making things even tighter for a big truck.
The weights are wrong, its not 80 tons but 80.000lbs .. which equates to about 36tons. most of Europe allows 40/44tons but nordic countries allow 56+ tons
I wish i had a dollar for every time an American said " Ive never heard of that "
We'd be very very rich by now 😂
It is ridiculous isn't it 😮
You'd be a multi billionaire by now and still gaining .
I mean, I find it ridiculous that Americans haven't heard of Scania, but if I told about the non-Truck manufacturing part of SAAB, and mentioned the Fighter Jets, JAS 39 GRIPEN, oh of course they have heard of that...
*1 €
Or maybe 1£
"Did you know that European engines are more powerful than the ones in the US? That's because European engines are more powerful than the ones in the US! And since European truck engines have more power than US ones, it explains why European engines are more powerful than the ones in the US!"
That's what this video sounded to me. I think American script writers are a bigger problem than American engines.
🤣
Yeah weird script and weird reading of the script with pauses in the middle of sentences. That guy has no idea what he is reading
thats because the american writer has less idea power then europe writer...lol
Hey Wuzer, check out the sound of the Scania v8 trucks . They really shit on the American trucks,, they only have v6 😂
It's most likely scripted by AI.
Diagram down below
There's a difference between European trucks and Swedish trucks. The biggest and most powerful engines made on the European continent are 520hp for Renault, 530hp for Daf, 570hp for Iveco, 625hp for Mercedes and 640hp for MAN. Then you go to Sweden and you'll see that both Scania and Volvo has two engine specs each that are more powerful than that. Volvo with their FH16 650 and 750, and then Scania with their new R/S660 and 770. Volvo and Scania also make engines with more torque than everybody else. The new Volvo FH500 has "only" 500hp, but it has 2800Nm of torque. That's more than the Daf 530, Renault 520 and the Iveco 570. The Scania R/S590 has more torque than the 625hp Mercedes engine, too. The reason for these powerful engines is because they're made for Swedish roads, regulations and conditions. On the continent, most trucks are semi trucks with semi trailers with a max weight of 40 to 44 tons. In Sweden we drive something the Germans call a "Sweden combo". It's when a rigid chassis truck pulls a full trailer. A semi trailer only has wheels in the back and is made to be pulled by a truck with a fifth wheel, aka "Pivot disk". A full trailer has a set of axles in the front with a drawbar and a pivot mechanism fixed on the trailer, as well as another set of wheels in the back. The most common trailers you'll see in Sweden are 4-axle full trailers. They have a max weight of 38 tons. The 5-axle versions have a max weight of 44 tons. And that's just the trailers. These trailers are pulled by rigid trucks, usually 3-axle trucks, with a max weight of 28 tons if we add the max weight for each axle, but limited to 26 tons due to the short distance between the first and last axle. This makes the regular "Sweden combo" have a max gross weight of 64 tons (141000lbs). Then there are the Class 4 combos with a 4-axle truck, usually an 8x4, pulling 5-axle full trailers. These are most often excavation trucks or lumber trucks and they have a max gross weight of 74 tons (163000lbs). Then there are the ones still in their testing phase. They usually consist of an 8x4 truck pulling a dolly and B-train. A B-train is a trailer with a fifth wheel on the back of it and another trailer attached to it. These beasts can weigh up to 98 tons (216000lbs). These are usually wood chip trucks but they only drive short distances because the dispensation can be expensive. Usually from a train terminal to a heating plant. Needless to say, you're not pulling 98 tons with a 500hp truck, it's just not happening. So this is why Scania and Volvo makes more powerful trucks than anyone else. I'll also throw in a little diagram down here to show the axle configs on our trucks:
Regular European 44 ton semi truck:
Numbers indicate max axle pressure in metric tons
I_____________________I
|--O-----O-O O-O-O
8 20 24
Max gross weight limited to 44 tons and 18.75 meters in length.
Sweden Combo:
I--O---------O--O----I---I-o-o-------------------o--o---I
8 20 I 18 20
I
Drawbar
Max gross weight limited to 64 tons and 24 meters in length
Class 4 combo:
I--O-------O-O-O--I---I-o-o---------------o-o-o--I
8 26 18 26
Max gross weight of 74 tons and max length of 25.25 meters.
Beast Combo:
I_____
I--O-------O-O-O--I---I-o-o-------------o-o-o I-----------------o-o-o--
8 26 18 26 26
Limited to 98 tons and 34.5 meters in length.
Me :- how much effort did it take for you to write this comment?
Tntfreddan3138 :- yes
This comment made the video he watched completely redundant, thank you.
"There's a difference between European trucks and Swedish trucks". Just to let you know: Sweden is an European country as well so I don´t understand what you´re talking abvout.
@@r.c.m.vanderheijden7597 Bro, I'm Swedish. I know full well that Sweden is a European country. But we're not part of the European main continent, we have a different climate, different terrain and different laws and regulations than every other country down on the continent. Scania and Volvo make trucks for Swedish laws and regulations. Sturdier frames, more powerful engines to be able to pull the heavier loads, etc. ReCo Drive (Remote Controlled Driving) and the Sprider machines, for example, are only available for Scania and Volvo. Because Spridermaskiner AB is a Swedish company. Swedish first, European second.
@@tntfreddan3138 You can't say "European" trucks then... What defines European trucks if Swedish trucks aren't European?
You can argue that Swedish trucks might be special because they're designed with Scandinavian climate, terrain and laws in mind...
One thing the video was right about, was the difference in terrain and laws between European countries. Even between EU members.
In Denmark, another Scandinavian country and neighbor to Sweden, you'd also see Volvo and Scania on the roads, while our laws are different from Sweden they're also different from many other countries within Europe.
ReCoDrive is NOT just for Volvo and Scania...
Volkswagen Group controls 100% of the shares in Scania AB... It's really not "Swedish first, European second", lots of export is happening!
A newton is the SI unit of force, equivalent to the force needed to accelerate one kilo by one metre per second squared. A newton-metre is the torque you get on one end of a metre long bar by applying one newton of force to the other end. Or it’s about one and a third foot-pounds if you just want a US friendly value.
Metric System, something Americans never understand😂
So, if I understand correctly: Jimmy wants a new couch wich weighs 45 pounds, (idk how much that is im eu) costs 750$ and his train is running off schedule by 15 hours the mass of the sun must be 12 right?
US don't use metrics. They have chosen to be the selected few with imperial system along side modernized science powerhouses such as Myanmar and Liberia😂
Nm has nothing to do with time.
the base units of us measurements are 1kg and 1m@@TheAtraxz
“I never heard about Newton” has the same vibe as “wtf is a Kilometerr” 🇺🇸😂
Wrong .
right.
poor Isaac Newton
@@chabr1783 WHO?
Ryan is a typical American :D
the federal weight limit in the US is NOT 80 tons (short\US) it is 40 tons US\Short or 80,000LB which is 36.287 tonnes, while for Europe its 40 tonnes as a baseline for comparable 5 axle combination of tractor unit and semi trailer, with more in some parts of Europe
It' 44 metric tons over here... You need a rolling stock with at least 5 axes for that (2 on the tractor, 3 on the trailor)...
@@yvesd_fr1810 if you are talking the US then at an interstate level it is 80,000LB which is 40 tons US\Short, 80,000LB which is 36.287 tonnes (tonnes IS Metric) before you run into permits, if you are taking Europe, then as a baseline (baseline being the general overall starting point without involving exception like the NL, Scandinavia and Finland etc - given we want to talk comparatives) then that baseline comparative on 5 axles is 40 tonnes which is 88,184LB or 44.09 tons US\Short (i.e. the weight you can run across Europe), before you move to other higher exceptions or 6 axle combinations to 44 tonnes or more (i.e. the point is to make as fair as posable comparison between travaling across the US via interstate vs across Europe - given individual states in the US have higher weight exceptions just as individual European country's do)
US\short\customary tons are smaller than both tonnes and imperial\UK\long tons:
US\short\customary = exactly 2000LB or about 907KG
Tonne (metric) = about 2204.6LB or exactly 1000kg
UK\imperial\long ton = exactly 2240LB or about 1016kg
Imagine being so … to invent a tonne that weighs less than a tonne
@@JohnSmith-iu8cj it was invented in Europe... both units, as a matter of fact US IMPERIAL UNITS are British... And Metric is French...
@@livedandletdieBritish imperial system (or also system of imperial units) is a system of units of measurement adopted in the British Empire and the United Kingdom, It developed from what were originally known as English units, an evolution of the Roman units of measurement and those used by the Anglo-Saxon populations[1]. It was in turn the basis for the US customary system. therefore American measures are Italian, miles and pounds are Roman measures😂
Volvo and Scania are both from Sweden and here we allow 25.25 metre (83 feet) long and 74 metric tonnes, and just a couple of months ago that limit were changed to 30.5 metres (100 feet) and 95 metric tonnes on some roads. Finland got similar limits, and maybe some other European countries too.
I think Sweden and Finland has some of the highest limits compared to other EU countries. (due to much forest and mining industry maybe?)
@@DNA912 That is probably true. I think I've heard that they have larger trucks in the Netherlands also but I'm not sure. Anyway, on the 25m trucks you get 3 6m stacks of timber and on the 30m truck you get 4, saving about 20% fuel if I remember correctly.
@@ulvsbane In Finland HCT Trucks max lenght 34,5 meters (113 feets) weight 104 tonnes (229000 lbs) ruclips.net/video/gBdvIvN8ybo/видео.htmlsi=PGFbMQBGgJP1-_wN
I would assume - and do not know - that somewhere in these regulations is the notion of pressure per axle or even wheel?
Aside, in the Netherlands with loads of camera portals over the roads, some of them monitoring speed limits over stretches of road, incidentally on the motorway (highway) you'll see the announcement of a weighing point with camera, where axle pressure is measured.
As lorry/truck drivers knew exactly where these points are and car drivers would not pay attention, you had lorries moving from the right (slowest) lane to the one next to that seemingly for no reason. Let me guess, they knew they would be too heavy.
The other day I noticed the second lane now also has a measurement loop in the road surface.
As this country was built i the sedimentation (i.e. flood) plane of the North Sea from the West and of larger rivers in the East, the soil is very soft and the water table may be only between 1 and 2 feet deep in many places. This means that (a) it is hard to build a smooth road, and (b) roads can easily be distorted when design limits are exceeded. A country one a higher rocky plateau does not have these specific problems, so if it does not suffer from local tectonic plate movements, then weight and axle pressure may not be a big deal.
@@jpdj2715 There are of course :) I'm not an expert but had a quick look and there appear to be four classes, BK1-BK4, that specify different weight limits depending on wheter if it is a single axle and up to 3 axles close together (bogie load?), from 8-11.5 tonnes for the lowest single axle up to 11-26 tonnes for the largest tripple axle (at 4.7 metres from the first to the third wheel).
The maximum gross weight in europe for trucks is 44 to with container 20' DV ( i work in logistics in Romania).
There is a single word that describes the difference between Europe and the U.S.: Brenner. The Brenner is a pass between Italy and Austria. It is short but steep from both sides, with more than 2000 ft of elevation differences within less than 30 miles from both sides. South of the pass is the harbour of Genova, where all the big cargo ships from Southeast Asia land, and north of it there is Central, East and Northern Europe. Basically, all imports from Taiwan and China have to cross the Brenner. No freight hauling company will buy a truck which struggles to get over the Brenner. And yes, it's not only the torque at this pass. Trucks actually need the power.
The vast majority of trucks in Europe have something around 400..500 horsepower. The 700+ hp engines are rarely sold in central Europe, probably in the low single digit percentage.
Jupp, they are much more of a Scandinavian thing were 500-770 is very common, that's why the 750 and 770 engines are both Swedish
In the Netherlands its 50 or 60 tons
I'm in UK and drive a Scania s650
Actually those high horsepower engines are pretty common in central Europe as roads and climate are very similar to Scandinavia in Switzerland and Austria.
What you probably meant was continental Europe.
We like V8 cars up here to!
Our trucks are also physically speed governed to 90kmh (56mph) so there's no "taking a run up" to any hills. It's all grunt work.
To add to that, older infrastructure often involves tighter turns or inclines because it wasn’t originally built with trucks in mind. So, that often means a slower speed, but a lot more power is required to go up the same hill at a slower speed, because higher speeds equal more momentum.
Think of being on a bike while going uphill. It’s much easier to maintain a comfortable speed than to have to go slow to account for tight turns/bumps/oncoming traffic etc.
Just pill the fuse then vroom vroom
@vikisekhavel95 90 is where the limiter is set to. 80 is the speed limit.
@@patrikbjornfot and then get fined when police take a few prints and finds out you were driving with the limiter off lol
You can't get done for speeding off your tacho print outs
I would Recommend watching "Volvo Trucks - Volvo Trucks vs 750 Tonnes: An extreme heavy haulage challenge" it's a great demonstration of how powerful the European trucks truly are! P.S. Keep up the amazing videos!
Also the volvo commercial with Van Damme doing a Split between 2 trucks because they are so precise
Amazing.
Volvo is way overpriced truck and have tons of electrical problems
@@fboest Still less problems then any american truck =D
40 metric tons combined weight (truck, trailer and load) are the norm. If you carry intermodal shipping containers it is 44 metric tons. However, there are oversized load transport, that can be al ot heavier. The record is a combination of three tractor units, that is approved for 1,002 metric tons. You can find a video about it with English subtitles here: ruclips.net/video/pOBfwDfvvLM/видео.html
This is so nice. Also the dialect of those guys, really heartwarming...
Maybe we will see that thing dressed up as Cybertruck and driven by Elon himself at Cologne Karnival? 🤣
In Finland limit is 76 metric tons.
Here in Australia we have B-Double's and we have Road Trains outside of cities they can have 3, 4 or even 5 trailers on them and motors up to 700 HP if you want look up some vid's about our outback trucks and the city B-Doubles that get around our cities
road trains are not legal yet in The Netherlands I believe, but they were considering it a while ago to limit the amount of engines on the road to transport the same amount of stuff.
The road trains are so cool!
The most important feature on them tho is not the engines but the gearboxes.
Saw a documentary on one that had a 36-speed automatic one and i just kept imagening shifting 36 gears manually XD
As an aussie, we definitely need more European Horsepower over 730hp for those Road Trains. Our biggest is the Scania V8 730hp.
@@tmatiu207 volvo just came out with the d17 with 780hp
@@tmatiu207 No Volvo FH16 has a 780hp option.
in Iceland, the maximum weight on the main roads is 44.000kg / 97.000lb for a 5 axle semi, but if you have a 6 axle combo on doubles on the trailer, you can be up to 49 tons, 49.000kg / 108.000lb. everything over that, and you have to get a special permit for. We generally go for higer output engines because of how mountainous our country is, so many go for 700hp+ engines, most choose either Volvo or Scania, those are the two main trucks people choose here, as they have the biggest engines, 750 and 770HP
also, in general, we dont have an old fleet of trucks, like with the biggest transportation/freight companies, they usually replace their trucks every 3-5 years.
@@kizi86 It is now 780 and 770 hp.
Cultural thing there. In the EU, everything is smaller, a bit cramped sometimes, so we’re used to do more with less space. US cars always had big engines, and they were powerful. EU cars never had that, apart from the real luxury brands. Average family cars are way smaller and so are the engines. The US part of my family came over for their first visit long ago, they thought the cars here were toys. They probably thought the same about the streets and houses.
As a side effect, we always got more power per unit from an engine. If you’ve only got 80cu, it needs to work harder than that 289 v8, right? And while building a truck engine, you don’t suddenly forget how to do that.
In the same way, our trucks carry more load. It equals fewer trucks on the road, and thus fewer traffic jams. We need that. So our engines NEED to be more powerful, it’s not about bragging rights.
Yeah it's a perfect example of not having the luxury so you need to be creative to find solutions to problems. The USA has plenty of space, and is much more flexible in developing their plans.
It's often what creates something better due to the problem that arises, and if successful it could even solve more than one problem. So many issues in the USA are due to their luxury of space. It's fantastic how they have almost 'endless' space, but the sprawl isn't cheap, and gives various problems from trouble to maintain the longer roads, to needing more gas due to the distance, and becoming car dependent, or having worse plumbing, power and internet further down the city. It has a downside to it that made life in America great for those who can afford that luxury. But as finances are tight on everybody globally, so is it for those in the USA and that's when you see these problems come up. In European countries there are also plenty of issues, but due to living compact, infrastructure is less of a problem.
America seems to be much more expensive than Europe, or at least Britain but 25 years ago it was the opposite. I wonder if the expense of maintaining all that "sprawl" has finally caught up with you, and particularly now that energy is so expensive.
Its funny cause even if US cars are bigger they often offer less space for bags and stuff like that while compared to EU counterparts. Nothing beats a skoda octavia in the carriage capacity :D
And for sure the european engines are way less in fuel consumption than the americans are
@@IntegroabysalUS cars are way bigger. And it makes sense because their roads are wide. There are so many Americans cars that wouldn’t fit on European roads. Americans drive SUVs and Pick up trucks.
Maximum weights for trucks in cross-border traffic in the EU are set in Council Directive 96/53/EC. The 40 or 44 metric tons maximum weight is also listed there. These trucks are permitted everywhere in the EU. Individual bridges may still have a stricter weight limit.
However, individual member states may allow different regulations for domestic traffic in their national law (e.g. Sweden, Finland and the Netherlands allow heavier trucks)
Denmark recently change to 60 tons and most of the german federal state have local exception of 60 tons as well on top of Netherlands of cause. That makes 60 tons pretty much the standard for most of northern europe.
Sweden and finland have recently raised the limit to 32 meter and I think its 84 tons
@@matsv201 32 meters allows two 40-ft containers. But it only on some roads.
@@bil0725 on every road since trailers can have turning axles and both semitrailers go almost same trail as truck making then able pass threw pretty tight turns
I believe it is very common to see those trucks with the bed directly on the trucks, pulling a standard length semi-trailer behind them on a dolly in Sweden and Finland.
Truck + dolly-semi is a LHV Eco-Combi Type 2. I believe it is corresponding regulations for Type 1, 2 and 3 in Finland, Sweden and Norway (since 2008).
The maximum weight of a truck in Germany is 40 (and 44 for extra-long trucks) tons total. And I dare say most truck engines have around 400 hp or less. Yeah you can get big V8s with 750+ hp (or even more) but that's usually only for special occasions/requirements like hauling extra-heavy items. Then you require a special permit and get all sorts of headaches.
The german federal law limit is 40 tons. But local exceptions id alowed and currently there are more states that have exception than not.
Don't confuse US short tons with UK imperial tons and metric tonnes.
BS!-common standart today is 460-500hp in Europe!
@@pe.bo.5038 Depends on. Volvo have 3 different engine classes, 11, 13 and 16. The lowest range that is used mostly larger distribution trucks and of road dumptruck is 330hp
@@matsv201 👍-Absolutely correct!-But i assumed the average "Over-the-Road" full sized truck/trailer!
that video was utter chaos he had no conversions and still got nearly all numbers wrong why would anyone upload this
weight limits in Europe and especially in the Nordics, are quite a bit higher in the USA. in denmark you can drive with up to 56 tons 112 thousand pounds. in Sweden up to 104 tons and Finland up to 114 tons. before it becomes special transport. Greetings, a Danish chauffeur.
and Germany only 40 T
I used to drive a 750hp Volvo FH16 here in Norway, driving from Larvik to Trondheim and then to Svarstad, and then back to Larvik and start over again. Sometimes I also drove a Scania with only 540hp from Larvik to Tønsberg with 12 stops on the way there.
We Europeans luv our details. A concept like 'at least the overall message was right' wouldn't fly very well here. (if you do it; do it right) Maybe a cultural thingy. :)
😂Take a look at Bruce Wilson, who lives in Florida. He was at Scania last year. He drove a few trucks. Also an electric one. He also owns a slightly older one imported from Canada. He's just waiting for the engine he bought in Finland.
Absolute nonsense the weight claim for Europe max across Europe for 6 axles is 44t
Cute, search for 34.5 meter trucks we starting to use up here in the north :P
Everything in this video is completely wrong...
Just because there ARE engines for trucks available>700hp doesnt mean its common.
For most countries in the eu the overall weight limit is around 40t (including the truck)!
Thus common engine power is
So is your comment, full of deception :- twisting some truth to tell lies.
Btw, how does weight have to do with power figures, they can be just overpowered, moreover EUs have hills, autobans, heavy traffic even on hilly terrains, & most importantly they carry more loads although weight limit maybe lower cause they have better lighter shorter trucks, needing that extra power.
The source video is incorrect. With a few exceptions, trucks in the EU can weigh a maximum of 40 metric tonnes.
Most bridges in the EU are not certified for heavier trucks
In all honesty, the video was comparing the most powerful truck engines.
@@ravenouself4181 In all honesty, the source video claims that european truck engines are more powerful mostly because in Europe trucks can have a total weight of 60 metric tons which is outright invented bullshit!
In all honesty!
@@thestonegateroadrunner7305 Sweden is in Europe and the max weight is 104 tons if I remember correctly. Europe's not a country.
@@mothbreeder641 Oh Mister super smart ass speaking, yeah!
I wrote, that with a few exceptions (Sweden is one such exception), countries in the EU (not Europe) have a limit of 40 metric tons total weight.
The EU has 27 countries, Europe has 47 countries.
How did your "super clever" post add even minimal additional information to my statement?
Producing yourself as important smart ass is your main purpose in life, ain't it?
In Europe the maximum weight for normal trucks is 40t. Larger loads require more axles.
Fact: The Paccar company is also the owner of the Dutch company DAF. The engine factory in Eindhoven also supplies engines to the USA.
In Sweden it's 74 metric tonnes, in Finland it's 76 metric tonnes. In Sweden there's an exception to the roof, on certain roads, during nights it's 80 metric tonnes.
There is no maximum weight for "Europe", there are different limits for different countries although many share the same limit, with northern countries, in particular Sweden and Finland at the top end for weight limits. Wich makes sense why the Swedes have the most powerful trucks as Volvo and Scania dominate the market almost exclusively in that region for heavy trucks.
The whole world and NASA use the metric system, except the US and Birma.
In the Netherlands we can be max 50 metric tonnes. Most trucks have between 400 and 500 hp. Distribution trucks usually have between 300 and 400 hp.
"I never heard about a newtonmeter" dang Ryan 😉 The US space industry calc metric, Imagine why
well, yes, of course Newtonmeter is metric/SI. But NM and pound-force are not units "normal" people often deal with. Feet, yard and mile are familiar even for me as European, but pound-force I have rarely heard of. Even Newtonmeter does not mean much to me. Perhaps when deciding a new car, comparing two options, "bigger is better" (and generally Diesel have higher NW in lower rpm than petrol cars, right?), but out of context, I have no idea what a value of x MN means. Is 5 NM a lot or is only 200 NM a lot?
@@ClemensKatzer
1 newtonmeter is 1 newton at 1 m lever
1 pound/feet is 1 pound at 1 feet lever.
Hang 1 liter water(1kg) on a 1 meter long Stick, it creates 10 newtonmeter in your hand.
But anyway, you have a point it's not a daily thing for most people. Maybe for tightening car wheels but that's pretty much it.
Ever the biggest truck engines in the US are smaller than the smallest European truck engines.
Hello Ryan.
Thanks for your vidéos !
I live in Paris France and I appreciate your curiosity and your humour.
Since I work for the French railways ; let me reassure you : US freight trains are WAY MORE powerfull than ours !!!
I really admire your trains ! 😊
I live in Paris..why thats France added?for the dumb americans?
I don't know man.. US trains are diesel-electric, usually with 4500 kW of power. Many places in EU you have electric trains upto 6400 kW of power
The details may be wrong, but as you said the key points and overall message is correct
We also prefer cab over for manoeuvrability in cities etc
Actually cabovers are a result of EU maximum truck length legislation to maximise the load length.
@@s.rmurray8161
👍Never thought of that! Still manouverable compared to the huge Mack's. Big for bigs sake!
fully loaded European trucks on the "Brenner motorway" have to stop to let their engines cool down despite their 750/760hp. the motorway seems "flat" but in reality it is so inclined that even cars struggle to go up it and this motorway is one of the most important in Europe. Here, a good 70% of the roads are mountain passes with an incline ranging from 5 to 15 or even more. in fact, American cars are criticized a lot here for the braking system which is not the height of our roads and overheats almost immediately
Quite amazing that two of the great European truck manufacturers (Volvo and Scania) would come out of such a small country as Sweden!
from orgin, Because nowadays, Volvo has a lot of plants in europe.. and Scania.. Most of their trucks are made In Zwolle, The Netherlands.
Small?
@@Dennis-Hinz Maybe in comparison to Spain, France, Canada, USA, etc? If not land area, maybe population.
It's the 5th largest country in Europe and very tall at that. From Malmö to Kiruna, a fairly realistic drive for a truck, is around 1850km.
I love the fact the fella says Cummings and has found some sorta logo that says cummings, yet its Cummins, without the G
America😂
European engines in general are more efficient. The US seem to be obsessed with the old V8 tractor engine which to be honest is old technology.
I believe you are wrong the trucks in both USA and Europe are in-line engines on most trucks, to my knowledge it is only Scania that still uses the V8 truck engines for their larger engine options.
@@FaithlessDeviantscania v8s aren’t only for the most powerful ones. They use v8s even for as little as 500hp
@coot1925 ... European trucks in general are also better than US ones, more modern and more comfortable, US trucks have always been rather old fashioned, European trucks are eons ahead of the US ones.
@@jordanthorne9768no, no they don't. When you typed that comment the lowest-end V8 was a 530, before that it was the 520 from 2016. The last 500hp V8 engine from Scania is from 2012
@@Arik-2103 so my comment was not wrong. I said they use v8s with as little as 500 hp not make them, there is still a lot of 500hp v8s on the road
Scania is a Swedish brand like Volvo and was the truck division of the Saab company, they also manufacture commercial and military aircraft. Very common in Australia/NZ busses and trucks.
scania is owned by vw, as well as m.a.n. and i think international in the usa.
Wait, what? Volvo comes from Saab? Really? Now it all makes sense....
I did not know that.
I know when it comes to safety and reliability Volvo is the king of trucks. Even over Scania although they are up there.
But I never knew why I guess if it comes from Saab then it makes sense, because Saab were the safest cars ever and anyone who cared for himself and those around him used to drive a Saab. Now we have a clear split in Audi drivers, because after Saab stopped all the Saab drivers switched to Audi and now Audi has Audi drivers that were always Audi drivers which are the same type of careless road pirates that drive Mercedes that you have to be on constant lookout for not to get run over by and you have the former Saab Audi drivers. When a Audi doesn't cut a pedestrian off by half a meter distance racing across the pedestrian crossing just ahead just because he can... then you know he used to be a Saab driver.
@@amduser86 Volvo is owned by RENAULT since 2001.
@@PinnacleNL SAAB and VOLVO do not come from the same company. They are competion like Chevy and Ford in US. During a short time SAAB and Scania was the same company. Then SAAB sold cars to GM and later Scania got sold to VW. SAAB still exsist but now they focus on aviation and weapons. Volvo Trucks is still Part of Volvo AB with Volvo busses, Volvo Penta and Volvo CE. But Volvo cars was first sold to Ford and later to Geeley.
@@Gr8Buccaneer its the other way around Volvo owns Renault and got Mack in the deal.
Its kinda hilarious how the people in those comments accuse the creator of bad research only to fail at basic google searches themselves.
The dude with his "40 metric tons total allowed in the EU" for example seems to just consider the limits of his own EU country.
In Sweden for example, also a EU country as he should know, the total weight limit sits at 60 tons.
In the Netherlands its 50 tons. This took me 2 minutes to google.
But if you go interstates you need to comply with the general EU limits. Sweden (and N, FI ?) also allows higher and longer trucks which wouldn't be allowed to drive in the (complete) EU.
@@reinhard8053 Doesn't matter. If certain trucks in Sweden are allowed to go with 60 tons, somebody is going to build the engines that can do this.
And due to how manufacturing works those engines will end up in more trucks that do more trips than just those.
This is by the way one reason why Volvo has so many of those super strong engines. They are a Swedish manufacturer and therefore have a certain background of building the engines needed in Sweden. Its not a surprise that those products also find their way into other EU countries afterwards.
The key point here is that the higher weight limits are mostly restricted to Scandinavia (and are often achieved with having more than one trailer). This is most likely why the strongest engines are sold by the two Swedish companies Volvo and Scania. If you want to travel across Europe, 40 or 44 tons are the limit you have to stick to (of course with exceptions for special loads that are heavier but cannot easily be split up into multiple parts).
and 100+ t are some trucks for logs in finland
@@aphextwin5712 Again, it doesn't matter.
Even if Scandinavian countries were the only ones that NEED said engines, they won't just be sold there.
If you manufacture engines that can pull a 60 ton truck up a mountain you won't ban countries without mountains or without 60ton trucks from buying them anyway.
Volvo has a market share of 18% in Europe when it comes to their trucks. NOT just in Sweden.
In the Netherlands, we can take 50 Metric Ton. 50000kg = 110 231.131 pounds according to Google.
If you take the special LZV class trucks, which have a special license to them, you can take 60 Metric Ton.
The countries around us are all lower in Maximum Capacity. they range between 40/44 MTon.
Scania and Volvo trucks are legendary. If u want a good time, check the Volvo Truck commercials here on youtube, Some are just kick ass.
Couple of legendary ones.
The hook... ruclips.net/video/Jf_wKkV5dwQ/видео.html
Van Damme... ruclips.net/video/M7FIvfx5J10/видео.html
750ton haul... ruclips.net/video/5UUz1zTZFfU/видео.html
Even the comments on the video, 80,000 lbs is equivalent to 36 metric tonnes, in Europe the max a truck can carry varies, from country to country starting at 40 metric tonnes up to 50 metric tonnes, in the UK the maximum allowed is 44 metric tonnes.
Scania and Volvo are Swedish brands and we have much heavier and longer loads compared to southern Europe. 74 metric tonnes (163 000 lbs) and 34.5 m (113 f) Finland has about the same and Norway little bit less. (lenght in sweden is very new used to be 24m or 25.25m depending on types of trailers.) Man (Scania engines), Renault (Volvo engines), Daf(Paccar engines), Mercedes and Ivecco has lower hp engines that fits more with how trucks are built in Southern Europe. Normaly up to 550-650 hp.
Finland only has 2 tonnes more for maximum weight but is or atleast was testing 94 tonnes too. doubt it will pass tho cause it would only make sense for earth movers and timber combinations, but even then the roads would just get destroyed if those became common.
@@shaggings Dont Finland have a special road up in the north testing long and extra heavy timber loads?
I want correct you on your response! M.A.N produce there own engines but the last years they use Scania Gearbox! DAF produce there own engines MX 11 and MX 13 (except the smaller engines), they called it Paccar engines because DAF is the only truck manufacturer in the Paccar Group that design and made their own engines.
@@crocket1971 Scania and MAN started in 2014 to talk about joint engines in 2016 the work started and the engines are developed in Södertälje, Sweden by Scania. The work was lead by Florian Kraft that moved to Sweden from Germany. Around 2016 they also started to use Scanias gearbox in MAN trucks.
@@KristoferOlsson You mean the Traton engine plant in Neurenberg (Ger) started the production of the new 13lt engine develop by Scania and M.A.N and will use by Scania and M.A.N
This also extends to the car market. The cubic capacity of American car engines tends to be far greater than thar of their European counterparts.
However European car engines still produce more power at the point where the rubber meets the road.
It's not about how much fuel you burn, it's about how much burnt fuel is converted to energy.
Thermal efficiency!
Yeah, I get why the video is disliked so much.. they at least could have converted the units and shown both when talking about the US and Europe. There's no way to actually be able to compare them if you only have the respective units.
This feels like one of the videos certain companies generate with AI, pumping out 4-6 low quality videos a day. There was so much repetition of facts, bad research and missing unit conversions - the entire video could be shrunken down to one sentence: "The European terrain calls for more powerful engines." 🤷🏼♂️
Exactly! It’s a terrible, time-wasting clickbait video.
Actually there are laws that mandate a lower limit on power to weight ratio.
Most trucks here in the UK are around the 500 hp range such as the scania 460 range of inline 6 engines they offer a good balance between fuel economy and power although in my experience they can be a bit underpowered when pulling the maximum weight of 44 tonnes up over the pennine hills to Manchester can be down to about 40 mph and working very hard to get over the hills
Those weight limits are not right. In most Europe countries (I think except Sweden and Finland) they are 40 tons. Thats 80 000 pounds. USA has also a weight limit of 80 000 lbs. Most trucks in Europe are 450-500 hp. The 700+ trucks are usually heavy duty special transport vehicles. No one in their right mind would use a monster like that to haul veggies to a supermarket. That clip is BS.
It is simple, to many mountains and not enough space to build road network with 5 lanes in each direction which means your truck must be able to haul up the steep hill as well as accelerate fast enough in order to not cause a traffic congestion after every other sharp turn or crossroad/stop sign.
Hallo from Germany
Hiya, from Scotland
I'm glad so many commentators roasted the video. It's still good that you showed it though.
Did anyone else notice the fact the EU trucks have engines in the 6lt range, compared to the 12-15lt of the US ones. Means you have bigger engines in the US, but you get far less out of it. Just think what an American engine could do if anyone over there knew how to actually make use of it....
thats crap,it might be EURO6 engine but the FH16 has 16.1l cubic capacity.D12 engine has 12.1ltand the D13 has 12.8lt(rounded up)the type name discribes the engine volume.
@@Gr8Buccaneer I probably shouldn't have gone off the info in the video. Lol
A. EU truck engines aren't in the 6lt range, there 12.4 to 16.1. EU trucks need more torque because they have more stop & go. A larger capacity engine will tend to be less highly strung, and therefore be longer lived- more important in the USA, where mileages are way higher. People drop LS1s in Miata's all the time and it doesn't affect their weight distribution, the big V8 hardly weighs more than the little I4 that was already in there. Torque over horsepower for trucks. Size over weight for cars
The abbreviation for liter is “l” (lowercase L) or “L”, not “lt”.
BS!🤮🤢
In Europe. The average trucks have 500 HP. And the weight limit is set to 50 ton (100.000 pounds) The lenght with truck and trailer is set to around 19 meters (62 feet) Some countries allow 60 ton.(120.000 pounds). But that means longer trailers. So truck and trailer 22-25 meters (72-82 feet).
I drove trucks and now drive buses. Most of the buses where i used to work are pretty mediocre as Norfolk is flat, but we had 2 buses which were from Wales, and In Wales the hills are bloody ridiculous! So one of the buses we had which was a small 40 seat bus had one of the larger double decker engines bludgeoned into the back of it and it was so fast it would burn your average family saloon off at the traffic lights up to about 45 mph, it would often end up in the workshop after snapping the driveshafts. Another one we had was a full size single deck bus with a tri-axle coach engine in the back, you could feel the steering go all light and floppy under acceleration due to a lot of the weight being taken off the front. Point is theres lots of places in europe that actually require this amount of power and its actually needed. I think some of the roads in Wales are like 28% gradient or steeper.
Volvo has a reputation for making some of the most powerful diesel engines for their trucks and buses and coaches in the world.
And a lot of what the Swedish company has learned about building their engines has come from the very harsh winter environment that road users in Sweden and that part of the world have had to deal with.
In order to understand more, you may want to watch the documentary about the history of Volvo.
Norway and their steep,icy,snowy deathtrap-mountainpassings for heavy transport is a GOOOOD reason for a superior machinery😂😂😂
I work for Volvo Trucks in the biggest service market logistics in the EU. We do deliver parts to the US, so I'm guessing they also ride there with our trucks. Proud to deliver them ❤
I absolutely love watching something whilst someone else interrupts and comments all the time with incisive / inane commentary like 'I've never heard of a Newton meter' and 'you guys haul more?' I could watch this stuff for hours.
Now VOLVO has 780 hp
Even on some motorways here in the UK we have some rather sharp/long inclines. You see the older lorries struggling to even attempt those!
And on the really bad ones we have Escape lanes, for when a truck's breaks fail or are unable to fully overcome the vehicles inertia.
Yes Torque is more important than HP in Riggs. However, fuel efficiency is more important to truckers for the cost of operation.
Newtonmeter (Nm) is the metric variant of measuring Torque.
In essence :1 Nm is the turning-force of 1 Newton (9,81 kg ~ 10 kg) attached to a 1 meter pole of whicht the other end is attached to a wall or something. The other end of the pole "sees" 1 Nm of torque.
i correct it a little....you can buy 770HP truck, it doesnt mean everyone of them is a 16liter v8, mostly the fleet trucks are 440-500 6cylinders. sometims even just around 300hp but that is an utter underdog meant as punishment lol :D
Volvo Scania are mainly used for abnormal Heavey loads, the UK army use them for tank transporters
So US engines squeeze 500 hp from a 12 liter engine, but that little 6-liter Volvo one produces 200hp more at almost double the torque. Something tells me you lot need to up your engineering game ;)
The weight is a little tricky, in Europe we use metric ton (that is 1000 kilogram) total weight is 40000 kg in Germany, 44000 in Belgium and 50000 in the Netherlands. Also are six axles very common .
It is just a case of the right tool for the right workload. The long bed trucks of the US are great for those LONG ass highway journeys around the country and suit their mission parameters. The EU trucks suit their mission paramters with tight twisty roads, more mountains and hills, and difficult to navigate old cities. Better or worse depends on the mission. The EU trucks are absolutely better than US trucks, for europe. And the US trucks are absolutely better than EU ones for the US.
Australia is interesting because it has a mix of both EU and US style trucks, but they're also a great example of how different styles get used for different missions.
I worked for a huge shipping company in Austria in the trailer maintance and had to be familiar with all the regulations, so I knew if I´m allowed to modify certain parts if needed and still pass the Association for Technical Inspection´s test.
Maximum weight allowed here is 40 Tons ( 88 190lbs )T and in some cases up to 44 Tons ( 97000lbs). Those cases might be, for example, transportation of raw milk, or transportation of wood out of the forest, when the distance isn´t longer than 100km air line, which gives you some extra kilometers on the road.
And the maximum lenght of the truck and trailer combined is 16,5m
There are also exceptions on weight and lenght with strict regulations like being escorted, mostly by some safety assosiation and in rare cases by the police. In the rarest cases you´ll get an military escort. There for you need that powerfull truck with a trailer certified for that load, a ton of paper work, certified driver for such loads and so on.
We once got a job to transport a Leopard tank from the military base 20km north of company´s location to a base located 50km south of us. On the way down they had to stop at the company for a qick repair. The driver broke left "overwide safety board" so I had to work on it. They came in with two civilian cars, and two smaller trucks full of recruits as a escort. Two of the dudes from a car overwatched what I was doing, dudes from other car talkd with the CEO and recruits were melting in the back of the truck under 36 C (100 F).
I couldn't stop laughing at the beginning😅
I'm a truck driver in Europe and most trucks have around 450-480hp. Those 700hp are for special work like haulage very heavy loads like tanks, trains ect.
Im a truck driver in the UK and 90% of trucks you see on our roads are between 4-500hp. you do get 750hp trucks but only for escorted loads
The volvo 750hp engine is also being used in inland cargo ships since a few years.
Volvo hat vor ein paar tagen einen neuen 17l 780ps Motor vorgestellt.
At 4:00 that Scania is tuned to 950 Hp and driven by Konstaninidis from Greece,absolutely amazing Stuff!
In Germany, the maximal length include the trailer and the driver's cabin. Therefore, the driver's cabin got historically more "compact" than that of a US truck.
2:42 A Newton Meter is 1 Newton applied at 1 meter leverage. 1 Newton is 0.102kg. So it's rounded to 0.1kg of force applied at 1 meter leverage.
Current EU law (Directive 96/53/EC) limits the maximum permissible vehicle mass to 40 tonnes, except for intermodal transports using 40-foot containers which are allowed a maximum weight of 44 tonnes.
most trucks in Europe have between 450HP to 590HP(lots of Scania fans buy cheapest V8) since they don't have heavy loads. Not every transport is super heavy.
When I saw HP I first saw it as Health Points like European trucks have more health, are stronger than American trucks
Gaming a lot? :)
mt = Metric Tons
By default, 40 tons (metric tons) is the normal weight limit across most of central Europe. However, in "combined traffic", meaning there's some other means of transportation involved (e.g. a container that was transported parts of its journey by ship or train) the limit is 44 tons.
But some countries, especially the nordic countries (Sweden and Finland, not sure about Norway) as well as parts of Germany have legislation to allow for a semi truck to pull another trailer, or for a "normal truck" to pull a semi trailer. Those of course get significantly more heavy, and it is in those where you find the most powerful engines. Scania and Volvo are both Swedish companies and have the most powerful engines, while e.g. Mercedes traditionally doesn't see the Nordics as their main market and has a bit weaker engines. Not weak by any means, just not as powerful as the Swedish ones.
One thing where I'm not fully certain is, in Europe fuel is comparable expensive. Engines run a lot of boost pressure to keep them efficient. That also brings the advantage of a higher maximum power output. Not sure how that compares to American engines, but I could imagine that engines over there are not optimized to squeeze out the maximum efficiency but might have some more focus on longetivity and simplicity.
Yes, in Norway, too. Formally it is called Modulvogntog Type 1 (dolly-semi), Type 2 (semi + centre-axle), and Type 3 (link-trailer + semi) in Norway, and can have a maximum length of 25.25 m and weigh 60 tonnes (m/t). This corresponds to EcoCombi/LHV Type 1, 2, and 3 in EU. Type 1, 2, and 3 has been allowed on selected roads in Norway since 2008 (start of six-year trials), this concluded in 2014 (trial approved and regulation made permanent), and network expanded in 2020 (Modulvogntog Type 1 and 2, but not 3, allowed on all Norwegian roads that already allows 24 m logging trucks). Many Norwegian roads are off-limits, due to more challenging terrain and some restricted road dimensions, compared to roads in Sweden and Finland.
Even my car needs that much horsepower to get into my driveway. lol. I have friends from the us visiting me and they where like "hell no, not gonna drive down there".
The torque of an engine means very little. This is why a truck has gears. The gear changes the torque from the engine to the axle to what is necessary for the truck to move most effectively.
750 hp trucks are more common in sweden, norway and finnland.
I am a truck driver i transport forklifts with a kenworth T880 with a Cummings Q15 about 450HP. One of the advantages of high horse power in European trucks believe it or not don't work as hard so as to save fuel at slower speeds
I can definitely say the volvo truck with the 740 hp isn't a six litre engine FH 16 means it's a 16 litre engine
Ryan you have heard of Scania, you have heard about it's parent company, Saab, and it's company main product... JAS 39 GRIPEN, the fighter Jet every nation on Earth wants to have.
In Sweden 🇸🇪 trucks like Scania and Volvo have bigger engines is because trucks with trailers are allowed to be 24m and pull 64 tons of weight. Right now road trains are being tested at 31m.
44tons or 98560lbs Al trucks and trailers are air suspended and have disc brakes with ABS on all wheels.
newton-meter is a very simple concept. It's a torque that is equal to one Newton pushing on the end of a meter-long moment arm. 2 meters with one Newton would end up in 2Nm and 10 meters with 50 newtons would give you 500 Nm torque.
Simply put - the tools are adjusted to environment and needs, putting in more than necessary would be a waste.
In finland normal limit is about 150000pounds and 200000pounds is allowed on special permit
Not sure about Europe, but look up "road trains" in Australia. They'll have a semi tractor hauling 3, 4, or more trailers simultaneously...
The 80 Tons thing is kind of funny. Even the US Ton is basically 2000 pounds, so it would be 160.000 lbs :)
The metric tonne is just under 2205 lbs
But 80 tonnes is wrong the limit is 80 000 pounds. aka 40 american short tons or 36,3 metric tonns.
@@KristoferOlsson I know... the numbers in that video are all over the place.
Cummins make engines in the Uk also. They have a factory in Daventry near where I live my brother worked for them for a while
I’m a truck mecanic for MAN and machinist: for a truck it’s
For me as a European, this was as informative as an American saying "more muscle more car" 😂 thanks for 2x speed feature yt!
We need to compare sizes more often 🙂
" I never heard about Newton Meter....." wow! :)
About 99% of the trucks I've seen here in Europe are single drive axle, cabover trucks because of the roads and elevations they traverse. There are a lot of hairpin turns on some of these roads also. They also have stronger jake brakes on them because of the steep grades on some of the more mountainous roads. There are also a lot of two lane roads here making things even tighter for a big truck.
The weights are wrong, its not 80 tons but 80.000lbs .. which equates to about 36tons.
most of Europe allows 40/44tons but nordic countries allow 56+ tons
more like 65+ tons