So fine. Just taught poetry class..ive no training...but do have yrs!...ordered this book...recommended your channel to the class Dan, m77, Copperopolis
“poems written without readers in mind are journal entries written in verse.” this is such a helpful sentiment for me personally to conceptualize when the arts value is in the making or the sharing. thanks!
You've suggested this book before - either in a past comment or on your discord, so I ordered it from an online used book store. I started reading it and loved it, but then I had some big life experiences that led me to a major bout of depression and burnout, and I'm just coming back into the world of the living. So I'm gonna take this as a sign to pick it back up again. Thanks, as always, for your inspiring content, Andrew! ❤
Yes!!! I think this is the perfect book for poets who have been at it for a few months. I think of Ted Kooser's tone as that of "Uncle Ted," because he's such a gentle guide. Great video, Andrew!
hi Andrew, I just wanted to say thanks to you, the last couple of weeks I've been watching almost every video on your channel and I'm starting to write so much better things, and it makes me really happy that there's people like you that make this videos for free and for everyone. seriously, thank you so much, I wish you the very best :) also I'm sorry if there's any bad written words in my comment, english is not my main language
There’s another guy here on RUclips-a Harvard PhD student in literature, though I won’t name any names-who compiled a list of what he presented as introductory materials to poetry for the beginner. Among others, this list included Cleanth Brooks’s classic textbook Understanding Poetry, and some other text by Helen Vendler. I commented on his video, and said that it’s rather inaccessible to give a beginner Cleanth Brooks and Helen Vendler, and he actually stood by his selection, but what else what he supposed to do after he made his entire video. I think you and I are on the same page about how to introduce poetry. Janet Gardner’s “Reading and Writing about Literature” is very useful as well. A little funny in places. Even Thomas C. Foster’s “How to-“ empire is more accessible than the aged New Critics (whom I very much adore, but I would not give to a beginner).
What can I say, I'm a man of the people 😆 I'd suspect the differences in approach between critics and creative writers are probably also at play here: Kooser seems to be committed to encouraging more people to write poems rather than to preparing them to do critical scholarship. My background runs through creative writing rather than literary criticism, so Kooser's approach resonates more with my own
I still have no idea what's the difference between a metaphor and a simile other than the words "like" or "as." That seems like a distinction without a difference, but that's what we were taught in school!
Yep, that's about it. I have scribbled in the margin of my copy of this book "A simile is like a qualified metaphor"--not saying that something is something but that it's like something
So fine. Just taught poetry class..ive no training...but do have yrs!...ordered this book...recommended your channel to the class
Dan, m77, Copperopolis
“poems written without readers in mind are journal entries written in verse.” this is such a helpful sentiment for me personally to conceptualize when the arts value is in the making or the sharing. thanks!
You bet!
You've suggested this book before - either in a past comment or on your discord, so I ordered it from an online used book store. I started reading it and loved it, but then I had some big life experiences that led me to a major bout of depression and burnout, and I'm just coming back into the world of the living. So I'm gonna take this as a sign to pick it back up again. Thanks, as always, for your inspiring content, Andrew! ❤
You bet! Life happens--just keep on goin'!
Esoteric bloviating... had to look that one up. Love it.
Yes!!! I think this is the perfect book for poets who have been at it for a few months.
I think of Ted Kooser's tone as that of "Uncle Ted," because he's such a gentle guide.
Great video, Andrew!
Ha, I like "Uncle Ted"--I'm using that one
@@WritingwithAndrew lol just make sure you are clear about which Ted. Uncle Ted has been used as a nick name for the unibomber.
Ha, important to clarify 😬
Oh, gosh ... "Our kindly poet Uncle Ted."
I'll have it in a couple weeks. Thanks for the recommendation. I trust your judgment.
Nice--I keep coming back to it even years later. It's got some real gems
hi Andrew, I just wanted to say thanks to you, the last couple of weeks I've been watching almost every video on your channel and I'm starting to write so much better things, and it makes me really happy that there's people like you that make this videos for free and for everyone. seriously, thank you so much, I wish you the very best :)
also I'm sorry if there's any bad written words in my comment, english is not my main language
Thanks for the kind words--I'm really happy to hear it's been helpful!
Another banger! Thanks for the book recommendation!
Thanks--anytime!
Andrew, thank you for sharing your love of literature with people.
Of course!
There’s another guy here on RUclips-a Harvard PhD student in literature, though I won’t name any names-who compiled a list of what he presented as introductory materials to poetry for the beginner. Among others, this list included Cleanth Brooks’s classic textbook Understanding Poetry, and some other text by Helen Vendler.
I commented on his video, and said that it’s rather inaccessible to give a beginner Cleanth Brooks and Helen Vendler, and he actually stood by his selection, but what else what he supposed to do after he made his entire video.
I think you and I are on the same page about how to introduce poetry. Janet Gardner’s “Reading and Writing about Literature” is very useful as well. A little funny in places. Even Thomas C. Foster’s “How to-“ empire is more accessible than the aged New Critics (whom I very much adore, but I would not give to a beginner).
What can I say, I'm a man of the people 😆 I'd suspect the differences in approach between critics and creative writers are probably also at play here: Kooser seems to be committed to encouraging more people to write poems rather than to preparing them to do critical scholarship. My background runs through creative writing rather than literary criticism, so Kooser's approach resonates more with my own
Defintely adding this one to my reading list!
Do it!
I love writing poetry, I've done this for years. But now, I want to publish, and that demands the audience-considerate poetry which I lack.
Definitely! With years of practice, you're in a great spot to start thinking more deliberately about your readers--go get 'em!
and you keep on doing the good things that YOU're doing, good sir!
Thanks--I will! 😁
Just ordered a copy. Thanks!
Awesome--enjoy it!
I still have no idea what's the difference between a metaphor and a simile other than the words "like" or "as." That seems like a distinction without a difference, but that's what we were taught in school!
Metaphors don’t use like or as, similes do
Simile: Her smile is as bright as sunshine
Metaphors: Her smile is sunshine
Yep, that's about it. I have scribbled in the margin of my copy of this book "A simile is like a qualified metaphor"--not saying that something is something but that it's like something
@@WritingwithAndrew This is literally the first time I've understood why "like or as" matters.
Hooray!
"That tangle of Victorian nonsense" sums up poetry for me.
Ha, the Victorian stuff anyway 😉
Great video!
Thank you!
The book is extremely expensive in the UK.
That's a drag...sorry to hear it
Kooser's birthday is in two days. You should have waited a few days!
An early gift (I hope)!