SONY: 177 Countries Can't "Manage Democracy" Anymore

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  • Опубликовано: 4 май 2024
  • In a bold move about 12 hours ago, SONY decided it was going to ban an absurd number of steam accounts from being able to purchase Helldivers 2 in the wake of requiring everyone playing Helldivers 2 to have a PSN account. Due to which, now 177 countries that were at one time able to purchase and play Helldivers 2, won't be able to manage democracy anymore.
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  • @Onepeg
    @Onepeg  28 дней назад +328

    Arrowhead is actively telling people to refund and review bomb the game in order to "make your voices heard" by SONY. Maybe with enough pressure, yall can swing this thing the other way. Who knows.

    • @noralps2749
      @noralps2749 28 дней назад +18

      Tried to. Was denied :/

    • @alexarhipenko6017
      @alexarhipenko6017 28 дней назад +11

      I surely hope so. I was still on the fence about buying Helldivers when all this started (pretty expensive for me). If the divers win this fight, I promise I will don the cape. When I can afford it.

    • @thedreamer6930
      @thedreamer6930 28 дней назад +6

      Happy to oblige.

    • @thedreamer6930
      @thedreamer6930 28 дней назад

      This is how you get to a human on steam btw.
      Steam >>> Help >>> Steam >>> Steam Support >>> Purchases >>> Helldivers 2 >>> click "I have a question about this purchase" button >>> explain the situation and why you believe you should have a refund because it's a scam, fraud bait and switch, so on
      Then wait.
      I'm currently waiting

    • @themarlboromandalorian
      @themarlboromandalorian 28 дней назад +15

      They're still complicit.
      They signed the contracts and took the money. Now they're playing the blame game and getting caught in the lies.

  • @AOD_AnkGrooger
    @AOD_AnkGrooger 28 дней назад +216

    I swear every week now we get a new game controversy.

    • @theeldestrelic
      @theeldestrelic 28 дней назад +46

      I swear, every week a company fucks up and betrays the trust of it's customers.

    • @rokmare
      @rokmare 27 дней назад +6

      That's just modern gaming in a nutshell 😂

    • @stuffbyaaron1811
      @stuffbyaaron1811 27 дней назад +4

      Every week you get Onepeg making a over-the-top amount of videos on one controversy that was already being thoroughly covered.
      Just listen to his joyous little tone as communities have their games ripped apart.

    • @user-op4ft4yh5f
      @user-op4ft4yh5f 27 дней назад +1

      :(

    • @Onepeg
      @Onepeg  27 дней назад +39

      @@stuffbyaaron1811sorry I made 2 videos about Helldivers and was reporting all of the BSG stuff earlier than everyone else.
      I run a news channel. I have been for nearly 7 years.

  • @AldrickExGladius
    @AldrickExGladius 28 дней назад +62

    I've got plenty of PS ported games on my Steam account. Both Horizons, Days Gone, God of War, Spider-Man, Ratchet and Clank, but Helldivers 2 is the only one trying to FORCe me to create a PSN account.

    • @gulox8241
      @gulox8241 27 дней назад +3

      Ghost of Tsushima has same requirement, i was looking forward to play it but unwished it as fast as i added it to my wishlist.

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 27 дней назад +1

      Watch Sony patch the hole by adding the requirement to all their games both from now on and retroactive. Go on, watch it happen.

    • @gulox8241
      @gulox8241 27 дней назад

      @@Sorain1 I bet that's gonna happen, it's either now or later but yeah was looking forward for Ghost of Tsushima. But nah that bridge got burned and im considering refunding Helldivers 2.

  • @Isurusfiji
    @Isurusfiji 28 дней назад +100

    As a Fiji based Helldiver, I really don't want to refund this game. I have over 100+ hours invested and my squad and I dive every night... up until today 🥺 Thank you Arrowhead for the chance to spread democracy... 🖕🏽💀🖕🏽 SONY.

    • @Doomguy11733
      @Doomguy11733 27 дней назад

      This isn’t Arrowhead bro. They didn’t go political and now are paying the price. Remember when the woke lunatics wanted gay representation and AH said no? Yeah they are being messed with also!

    • @Chrischos
      @Chrischos 27 дней назад +1

      Does ur country forbid PSN?

    • @FedkaSlovanich
      @FedkaSlovanich 27 дней назад +7

      @@ChrischosPSN doesn’t allow alot of country’s to make accounts due to their dogshit anti bot system.

    • @haroldoboy6716
      @haroldoboy6716 27 дней назад

      Make a vpn!

    • @cypriotfox8354
      @cypriotfox8354 27 дней назад

      ​@@haroldoboy6716vpn will get you banned

  • @thomasluk4319
    @thomasluk4319 28 дней назад +136

    I will not dive, if not everyone could dive.

    • @user-op4ft4yh5f
      @user-op4ft4yh5f 27 дней назад +1

      :(

    • @pastabreaker4385
      @pastabreaker4385 27 дней назад +3

      I bet you're playing it right now. No one who can still play actually cares.

    • @KreideIV
      @KreideIV 27 дней назад +8

      @@pastabreaker4385I do bro 👊🏼, to be honest knowing what happend to a lot of our divers makes me hate it so much. It’s disgusting what they did and I hope genuinely that you guys will be able to join us again.

    • @ducle3595
      @ducle3595 27 дней назад +3

      @@pastabreaker4385 i do my bro, im actually refund after seeing all our brother being treat like this

    • @mathewsbusiness1263
      @mathewsbusiness1263 27 дней назад +4

      @@pastabreaker4385I played on ps5 but I still care..won’t be playing again. You can’t sell people a game then take it away..that’s crazy asf. I mean you can’t say F YOU to customers/gamers any louder than that.

  • @AldrickExGladius
    @AldrickExGladius 28 дней назад +178

    All reviews: 504,770
    OVERWHELMINGLY negative: 226,169
    ** 6 hours after original comment **

    • @vigzihaman5205
      @vigzihaman5205 28 дней назад +4

      ouch

    • @jrac-gl3ku
      @jrac-gl3ku 27 дней назад +1

      Overall reviews are "mixed". The recent reviews are "overwhelmingly negative".

    • @burkystonks
      @burkystonks 27 дней назад +8

      198,288 negative reviews, 1 hour after you posted this.
      If they dont dive, we dont dive.

    • @mileyjames4229
      @mileyjames4229 27 дней назад +4

      @@burkystonks 202,908 now

    • @praisetheoak
      @praisetheoak 27 дней назад +5

      @@mileyjames4229 207,558 now

  • @jay-firstofhisname
    @jay-firstofhisname 28 дней назад +86

    Was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING while it lasted. HELLDIVERS 2 was probably one of the best games ever. Was an honor to serve with you all!

    • @robinchwan
      @robinchwan 27 дней назад +1

      you could try and bump up starship troopers to get something near that game. though i understand if you don't as well :)

    • @yankeetf6912
      @yankeetf6912 27 дней назад +13

      @@SteveHarvey272you’re not very bright, are you bud?

    • @FedkaSlovanich
      @FedkaSlovanich 27 дней назад +8

      @@SteveHarvey272Its become rabid, you put down a dog you love.

    • @txsnowman
      @txsnowman 27 дней назад +2

      @@SteveHarvey272 I wish people had done it to Blizzard 12 ish years ago. But here we are with Diablo Immortal and Overwatch 2

    • @robinchwan
      @robinchwan 27 дней назад +2

      @@txsnowman bethesda and starfield.. but we don't really talk about starfield in polite company anymore.

  • @LightBeforeDark1
    @LightBeforeDark1 27 дней назад +9

    We lost soo many brothers and sisters . They will not be able to dive with us. Why should we dive if there is no democracy.

  • @side7oldtype298
    @side7oldtype298 28 дней назад +13

    Tolerating PSN account mandate is just the first step in mandating a PS+ subscription.

    • @Ug-lordetheunmovable
      @Ug-lordetheunmovable 27 дней назад +4

      Bro if they did that forced pc players to buy ps+ that's fucked

    • @randomentity6553
      @randomentity6553 27 дней назад

      @@Ug-lordetheunmovable As a PC player, there's plenty of non Sony games in the universe to keep me happy till I die. Fuck them.

    • @Xyler94
      @Xyler94 27 дней назад +2

      @@Ug-lordetheunmovable They're probably trying, since that is a major revenue stream.

  • @Duvstep910
    @Duvstep910 27 дней назад +18

    They also pulled a tarkov and changed their website from 'optional' to 'required'

  • @johnosborne1873
    @johnosborne1873 27 дней назад +4

    It was an honor serving with you!

  • @jimbobborg22
    @jimbobborg22 28 дней назад +39

    They have to make up the numbers they're losing over the Stellar Blade fiasco. People are dropping their PSN accounts due to the censorship, so HD2 players are paying the price now.

    • @noelahg79
      @noelahg79 27 дней назад +3

      This is exactly what happened.

  • @jussi8111
    @jussi8111 28 дней назад +41

    corporate greed trying to ruin another pure game. how suprising

    • @jussi8111
      @jussi8111 28 дней назад +11

      @@Charlie_Nice if you are too blind to see that all this is done to boost the numbers of sony for monetary gain at the cost of the playerbase then i cant help you

    • @Captain_Flint_lock
      @Captain_Flint_lock 28 дней назад +9

      @@Charlie_Nice Alot of people can't make a PSN Account, Maybe you should listen to the video before speaking.

    • @chaoticsoap
      @chaoticsoap 27 дней назад +6

      @@Charlie_Nice sold the game to players that cannot continue playing it anymore, sounds pretty greedy doesn't it?
      all steam players that will not link their accounts to psn (if you can even make that account) will not be able to play

    • @HiepNguyen-hw2hq
      @HiepNguyen-hw2hq 27 дней назад

      @@Charlie_Nice another Sony bootlicker

    • @stormcomando4159
      @stormcomando4159 27 дней назад +2

      @@Charlie_Nice Sony is now enforcing PC players to create a PSN account and link it to their steam account to inflate the PSN account numbers to impress investors

  • @BloodDraco122
    @BloodDraco122 28 дней назад +15

    I never even got that "Scan this QR" code thing when I got the game and like you said, everytime I've started up HD2, it's never popped up at all

    • @theirresponsibleghost7748
      @theirresponsibleghost7748 27 дней назад +3

      SAME BRO! i legitimately, never got it at all. and i was gifted the game too, so i never saw the login requirement on the store page.
      how in the fuck was i supposed to know this?

  • @jamespondy0
    @jamespondy0 28 дней назад +26

    In other good gaming news, Activision has announced they will now be releasing a new Call of Duty every 6 months at full price, and Warzone players will be retroactively be charged for playing.

    • @realsupercobble
      @realsupercobble 27 дней назад +1

      Huh? Since when?

    • @Xyler94
      @Xyler94 27 дней назад

      Don't try to distract from Sony's BS...

    • @hungreebear
      @hungreebear 27 дней назад

      oh well, players will still buy the game. i hear this and that about activion yet it still sales...guessin most have gp for em not to buy the game full price 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @KaiUndMoritz
    @KaiUndMoritz 28 дней назад +112

    They shot at tarkov just to shoot themselves a few DAYS later

    • @xboxplzfixme
      @xboxplzfixme 28 дней назад +35

      Arrowhead? No. This is Playstation's doing. Don't place undeserved blame on the Devs when it's not their fault.

    • @KaiUndMoritz
      @KaiUndMoritz 28 дней назад +4

      @@xboxplzfixme Of course. But I doubt the marketing and social media team are also the dev team. And if they are then im sorry. Because they would have had a huge pikachu face when that was announced

    • @shipso6116
      @shipso6116 28 дней назад +6

      Yes, a good reminder that schadenfreude does no good.

    • @lawgamingtv9627
      @lawgamingtv9627 28 дней назад +1

      ​@@xboxplzfixmeand people knew that from the start. always see who owns a studio before you decide upon your purchase

    • @lcmiracle
      @lcmiracle 27 дней назад +3

      @@shipso6116 Schadenfreude is beautiful. Embrace it.

  • @daviddesrosiers1946
    @daviddesrosiers1946 28 дней назад +16

    Well, it looks like we have our answer as to what Sony is gonna do. What's their slogan, again? Oh, that's right. "For the players". Well, just the ones they can force onto their console plantation.

  • @mendelian8768
    @mendelian8768 27 дней назад +22

    Why? They lost PSN accounts from Stellar Blade controversy. And now they thought after taking an arrow into the knee, we might take an arrow into the head.

    • @affinity601
      @affinity601 27 дней назад +1

      you know you are a gamer when you are taking an old ass skyrim meme and making it into an analogy

    • @Demortra
      @Demortra 27 дней назад +2

      Well.... Arrow to the knee means getting married and Sony is trying to get your info so... Close enough.

  • @drawn9318
    @drawn9318 27 дней назад +8

    I honestly believe the rug pulling from the unsupported countries is a move on steams part to avoid the income legal actions that would have likely hit them from selling a game that would be unplayable in the countries.

    • @gamerscomplete
      @gamerscomplete 27 дней назад

      I dont think steam is concerned about legal implications, theyre a marketplace not the studio making the decisions. steam maintains its spot at the very top of the gaming hierarchy because they care more about the gamers than devs since the devs are forced to use them and the gamers have a choice of what marketplace to buy games from. Steam simply stepping in to do the right thing to protect their customers from corpo greed as it looks good for them and it also keeps a bunch of people from being angry at them for purchasing a game they cant play. easy win for steam and steam as its a win/win for them they look good and they arnt having to deal with angry customers, steam has a history of farming those easy w's

  • @richardcreasey9319
    @richardcreasey9319 27 дней назад +3

    If account linking was always going to be mandatory, then why was the game ever even allowed to be sold in those countries in the first place? That's the biggest question I've taken away from this whole situation. And I don't think AH should be let off the hook so easily on this, either. Why did the devs go to the trouble of localizing the game in all of those different languages, if it would end up being not available for purchase in those places, if linking was intended to be mandatory? The reality of the situation is that AH HAD TO HAVE KNOWN that forced account linking was coming and didn't push back nearly as hard as they should have against Sony, and also did their players dirty by making linking "optional" and not telling us it wasn't going to stay optional. I really hope that players in affected regions can sue Sony over this, because Sony straight up defrauded them.

    • @grygaming5519
      @grygaming5519 27 дней назад +1

      My guess when asked, Sony told them it was going to be Optional at the start of production then as the game entered polishing there was a change of heart. However because the game already had localization within the text file Sony decided to allow PSN to be optional because their numbers were still above a certain level. Then FF7R did bad, followed by the Stellarblade causing a bunch of accounts to be terminated. This is going to slam them in the nuts hard.

  • @sumotony
    @sumotony 28 дней назад +7

    Onepeg, new youtube subscriber, thank you for balanced view of this Sony issue. Also a note for comments, Sony forcing censorship on Stellar Blade and a censoring of an artbook associated with a famous japan visual novel Tsukihime. Sometimes Sony just seems to want to watch the gamer world burn to send a message, that they just don't care for their customers.

  • @therealsilens
    @therealsilens 28 дней назад +6

    Babe wake up! Another video gaming shenanigans video from Onepeg!

  • @KyaliFloofDerg
    @KyaliFloofDerg 28 дней назад +6

    Onepeg, your news always keep me up to date. Thanks for that, from Tarkov to Helldivers, I really appreciate it all laid out like this :) ❤

  • @YourLocalMedic
    @YourLocalMedic 28 дней назад +23

    I'm thinking that the delisting was likely actioned by Valve not by Sony. Sony wants players to simply violate their own TOS and make an account in another country. Valve is not going to sell a product somewhere it can't legally be used. They're also probably doing it to decrease the number of future refund requests

    • @PrinceOtter
      @PrinceOtter 28 дней назад +11

      Correct. Daddy gaben making a OG call, you don't let your competition make you look bad when you have full control to stop it. Steam has done this before (in a good way)

    • @chuckforris8956
      @chuckforris8956 28 дней назад +4

      yep because banks will take theirs for transactions in both ways so steam would take the hit.

    • @Onepeg
      @Onepeg  27 дней назад +4

      According to the CM at Arrowhead the request was from Sony.

    • @YourLocalMedic
      @YourLocalMedic 27 дней назад +1

      ​@@OnepegI see thanks for the clarification

  • @put4558350
    @put4558350 27 дней назад +2

    I think that old FAQ snapshot can be used to request refund under "fault advertisement"

  • @friendlyroughai3319
    @friendlyroughai3319 28 дней назад +14

    my theory was, Sony got butthurt when ppl cancelling their psn after stellar blade drama and made stupid move by forcing ppl to use their psn service to boost their numbers back as proof to investors that they made money with their shitty service.
    we know both stellar blade and helldiver 2 being suck thorn in black rock and all bullshit woke corporate since the very beginning as their stand against shitty modern practice, and so they made sure to screw all their sale or future fans by do something that fans didn't like as reminders for any game dev that try to challenge their/ any (sony) reign

    • @mathiasrryba
      @mathiasrryba 27 дней назад +2

      being woke has nothing to do with being pro-corporationism. Being woke is being against that, actually.

    • @gulox8241
      @gulox8241 27 дней назад

      They can stay butthurt, even thought my country supports making PSN account together i with my cousin consider refunding the game. It was optional until they updated it to be required for some games heck they dont even want it for other games but for Helldivers 2 and soon to be available Ghost of Tsushima.

    • @friendlyroughai3319
      @friendlyroughai3319 27 дней назад

      @@mathiasrrybasuch poor innocent soul that didnt realize how much western corporate been control by select few company.

  • @GravitasZero
    @GravitasZero 27 дней назад +3

    If the store says something is required but then DOESN’T require it to play and go over the 2 hour limit, then it isn’t fucking required.
    As simple as that.

    • @RuneRaged
      @RuneRaged 27 дней назад

      I 100% agree
      At the very least, the linking could have been like "if you want cross play" or something... but this is Somy we're talking about, the company who bitched for 2 years over Call of Duty going to Microsoft... not any other game, just CoD

    • @Kraakesolv
      @Kraakesolv 27 дней назад

      Even then, the PS store states that PSN is optional for PC users. So if in doubt why would you heed the words in Steam when the publisher themselves says it's NOT needed and then you boot up the game and... It's not needed?

  • @corruptkode
    @corruptkode 28 дней назад +14

    Had my refund request denied about 7 times now.. Reason satiated is playtime is over 2 hours.

    • @z--r0
      @z--r0 28 дней назад +7

      That's the automated reply. Keep trying until you get it reviewed manually.

    • @Captain_Swank
      @Captain_Swank 28 дней назад +2

      ​​@@Charlie_Nice because many other users have reported they are receiving refunds even when they have gone over the 2 hour refund period.

    • @stinsaaan4146
      @stinsaaan4146 28 дней назад +2

      There is a confirmed refund by someone who had above 90 hours of playtime, so keep trying

    • @Captain_Swank
      @Captain_Swank 28 дней назад +9

      @@Charlie_Nice irrelevant

    • @Tilt_TM
      @Tilt_TM 27 дней назад +7

      @@Charlie_Nice The way the game was marketed was that having a PSN account was optional. They changed the terms of the deal after it was already done. Every time a company gets away with scummy shit like this, we move closer to a world where companies can do whatever they want with no repercussions. It shouldn't be tolerated.
      (Sony's track record of securing user data is also less than stellar to say the least)

  • @TheTron13
    @TheTron13 28 дней назад +11

    Think about that: if game blocked in your country, even if you bought it and played a ton of hours, you can't make a review...

    • @gumikin8706
      @gumikin8706 27 дней назад +1

      Yes you absolutely can, I did just today

    • @TheTron13
      @TheTron13 27 дней назад

      @@gumikin8706 I said “blocked”. Most likely, you are not in blocked region. In blocked region you can’t visit a page of the game on store. Yeah, that’s not about 177 regions. Those were removed from access to buy, not completely blocked. Who knows what they gonna do next.

    • @gumikin8706
      @gumikin8706 27 дней назад

      @@TheTron13 Mmm still doubt, Russia is supposedly blocked, but Russian players that got game thru various ways also left a lot of negative reviews that are counted
      If Russia is not this "Blocked" country idk which is

    • @TheTron13
      @TheTron13 27 дней назад

      @@gumikin8706 they changed their region in steam. I decided to stay as I was and just bought a key. Sony made a worldwide keys of the product and some only for Belarus and Russia and sell them via other stores.

    • @TheTron13
      @TheTron13 19 дней назад

      @@gumikin8706 most likely they changed the country for the steam account. Currently i can't visit a store page of the game - "This product is not available in your region". And when I try to post a review from a page in the game library, an error occurs. May be there is smth else with this error but idk.

  • @Ozaryk
    @Ozaryk 27 дней назад +2

    Sorry for wall of text... I just kept typing.
    I read up that the game launched with a version of the pop-up that did not have the option to skip and sat there like that for about 2 hours (Might have been from Spitz). Spitz has stated that the version that had the skip button, was removed after about 36 hours. Based on what Spitz stated, this means that everybody after this point that entered into the game, never got to see that pop-up.
    Steamdb shows 144k players on Steam about 36 hours after release. Due to server issues, it is unknown as to how many people even got to see that pop-up. They could have been on an infinite loading screen which was attached to the intro animation (This bug persisted for quite awhile after release. It was there when I was gifted the game).
    Checking my gift history, I was gifted the game on Feb 16th. Helldivers 2 released on Feb 8th. This was long after the 36 hour time frame Spitz stated. I never saw that pop-up. Either way, they removed the pop-up from the game. This, to me, would imply that requirement had been removed. People say "For server reasons", but I don't agree with that if they changed it from "Not skippable" to "Skippable" because of the reasons, but they also decided to remove it altogether. This is when people should be like "Sony got rid of the requirement!"... So, even if people happened to see the "Requires PSN account" box on Steam, which is at the bottom of the controller support, which is below the purchase options, that should have been seen as a potential mistake, especially when the game could be purchased in countries that did not have PSN.
    This is a very weird situation all around. Helldivers 2 devs are in a very bad position right now, and I feel for them.

    • @Kraakesolv
      @Kraakesolv 27 дней назад

      One must not forget the fact that the PSN store, Sony themselves, says it's optional to have a PSN account playing HD2 on PC.

  • @johnosborne1873
    @johnosborne1873 27 дней назад +9

    As a Tarkov refugee - this is just too much

    • @rjtrageser9884
      @rjtrageser9884 27 дней назад

      not helldivers too, no no no no no god please no NOOOOOO

  • @haraldbredsdorff2699
    @haraldbredsdorff2699 28 дней назад +4

    I am pretty certain, it was not required to be connected to playstation day one either. I could remember wrong, but I played the game, day one. And I got the choice to connect to playstation. So, it was not required day one.

  • @JohnDoe_75
    @JohnDoe_75 27 дней назад +4

    Sony earnings call is May 24th, pre market opening.

  • @VisceralApex
    @VisceralApex 28 дней назад +6

    Hopefully this can get sorted out, sad to see such a good game go down this path

  • @HisaoNakaii
    @HisaoNakaii 28 дней назад +10

    i genuinely feel bad for the game development, they made an absolutely killer of a game, very beautiful title, but sony had to fuck all of that up. I am from Tunisia, the fuck am i going to do? especially since i don't want to VPN create an account and end up getting banned because of this bullshit.

    • @kesamek8537
      @kesamek8537 27 дней назад +3

      I feel bad for the players, not for the millionaire studio staff. Save your pity for the right people. Stop licking corporation boot leather.

    • @theImpaler710
      @theImpaler710 27 дней назад +1

      @@kesamek8537 Real. The devs don’t give a fuck about you either. They clearly knew Sony’s intentions and did nothing and are acting all surprised now, when they knew it would play out like this and still did nothing.

    • @theirresponsibleghost7748
      @theirresponsibleghost7748 27 дней назад

      ​@@theImpaler710 both you are actually brain dead as fuck. the devs are literally telling people to refund and negatively review the game. (shit that hurts them more than sony) and you think theyre in on it?

  • @annguyenlehoang7779
    @annguyenlehoang7779 28 дней назад +52

    I guess in-universe it'd be like you can't join the Helldiver corp unless you pay our Democratic officer 500$ to be able to participate in "Managing Democracy" LMAO

    • @Malphorus
      @Malphorus 28 дней назад +3

      Corpos gonna corp.

    • @alexis1451
      @alexis1451 27 дней назад

      Except your $500 is actually $0 'cos creating a PSN account is free...

    • @Demortra
      @Demortra 27 дней назад +1

      @@alexis1451 For several countries they can't make an account without buying a PS5.... So no not free for everyone. only 69 countries even have access to making PSN accounts. Please don't just parrot everyone and do a small amount of research.

    • @alexis1451
      @alexis1451 27 дней назад

      ​@@Demortra A PSN account is completely free and you don't have to buy a PS5 to get one.
      Some countries do not have PSN support AT ALL (and buying a PS5 would not change that, assuming you could even find one for sale). A workaround is for people from those countries to create a PSN account using the nearest "supported" country to their own, and Sony have allowed that to happen for the last 18 years.
      If someone does not wish to do that then they cannot play Helldivers 2 (or any game that requires a PSN account) and in those cases should be eligible for a refund (because the game should never have gone on sale in those regions since they are not supported by PSN).

  • @GoalOrientedLifting
    @GoalOrientedLifting 28 дней назад +1

    This is the best video I've seen so far on the topic. Brought in all the vital info, no fluff and to the point

  • @HellDuke-
    @HellDuke- 28 дней назад +5

    That's not even the full list. None of the EU member states that do not have access to PSN are listed in that. None of the Batlics are listed. So I could still buy HellDivers today, but not be able to create a PSN account. Then again "crossing the border" easily means you can't really enforce it reasonably. As for refunds, mine got rejected

    • @thomasbaagaard
      @thomasbaagaard 27 дней назад +1

      also a number of US territories, UK territories, Parts of the Kingdom of Denmark, Monaco... are places where you can't get a PSN account.

  • @PoohbearZa
    @PoohbearZa 27 дней назад +1

    Calling all Helldivers - Lets not Dive for a week and see what they do. If all players can stop playing for a week, they will see we mean business.

  • @haruruben
    @haruruben 27 дней назад +3

    How do they make hiring decisions at Sony? Is it all nepo-babies or something? How do they constantly make enraging and embarrassing decisions like this?

  • @jerseydriftingsouth7400
    @jerseydriftingsouth7400 27 дней назад +1

    Arrowhead knew this was going to be required, they are not blameless either, the CEO even admits it’s partly on him as well

  • @traveller2378
    @traveller2378 27 дней назад +1

    Spitz being unaware of the number of countries that cannot access the PSN has nothing to do with him being disgusting to community members. If you've ever worked customer service you'd know what Spitz did is was gross and unacceptable.

    • @Onepeg
      @Onepeg  27 дней назад +1

      He’s human. Humans make mistakes.

  • @nonamenoname9079
    @nonamenoname9079 27 дней назад

    I really like the onepeg gaming news videos! Staying updated on the tarkov drama and the helldivers drama has been nice

  • @norbertfistinger1466
    @norbertfistinger1466 28 дней назад +2

    SONY wants PC players to PAY FOR PS+ when playing Sony published games on PC.
    Mandatory PSN linking is just their approach to get us used to the Idea.

  • @HourRomanticist
    @HourRomanticist 28 дней назад +3

    Ive actually never heard of any game on steam requiring a third party account. Does Steam even allow this?

    • @angrypakos
      @angrypakos 28 дней назад

      yep, there is plenty of them. They even have a feature that shows it on a game's page in a shop that it requires 3rd party account. But label being there and enforcing the law are 2 different things that's why ppl are mad.

    • @JohnSmith-kg2rt
      @JohnSmith-kg2rt 28 дней назад

      Some do war thunder swtor come to mind for me

    • @DWOMT
      @DWOMT 27 дней назад

      ​@@angrypakosThe PSN requirement has been there from the beginning. It was in the TOS the day the game launched. Go look at the pre-launch and launch trailers for the game. The PSN requirement stipulation is at the end of every trailer. It's been there since the beginning. When Helldivers 2 started having server issues, Arrowhead had to temporarily disable the PSN requirement to get their servers fixed. They announced back in February that there would be a 3 month grace period. So all this talk about the law and people wanting to sue is a joke. Any lawsuits would be laughed out of a courtroom because it's a segment of the fanbase that can't read and pay attention.

    • @pastabreaker4385
      @pastabreaker4385 27 дней назад +1

      ​@@angrypakos You'd think knowingly selling a game in countries which do not support a feature you plan to switch on and brick their accounts would be some kind of illegal. Especially when that feature is demonstrably not required to play the game, so now it can be seen as a deliberate action to invalidate a purchase after the fact.

    • @Kraakesolv
      @Kraakesolv 27 дней назад

      ​@@DWOMTNot so. Even the fucking HD2 PSN store said it was optional on PC. So the publisher says it's not required, you boot up the game and nothing is required... Why would you question Sony's own words? Its not as clear cut as you'd like to think.

  • @GravitasZero
    @GravitasZero 27 дней назад +1

    Don’t forget, people are still playing it because they have 1 month before the ultimatum’s set date.

  • @guardiandaytona8454
    @guardiandaytona8454 27 дней назад

    SES Will of the State has returned to Super Earth for decommission. Dispite being able to continue diving, Her captain stands with the countless others who cannot, and refuses to dive without them.
    LVL 75 | Admirable Admiral: Echo,
    It's been an honor gentlemen O7

  • @michup86
    @michup86 28 дней назад +2

    We just can't give Sony what theye want- don't create PSN accounts, even if you can.

  • @SL4PSH0CK
    @SL4PSH0CK 27 дней назад

    Of all the rare times to see my country being mentioned with a game I'm enjoying at the moment, I didn't expect it to be like this.
    Reminds me how Jim Ryan criticize middle east that gaming didn't exist in the region

  • @Gravefalcon
    @Gravefalcon 27 дней назад +2

    BSG: We did it, we're the most hated company in gaming
    Sony: hold my sake

    • @KevinSeth666
      @KevinSeth666 27 дней назад

      since they moved HQ location to California it is probably Starbucks not sake

    • @Gravefalcon
      @Gravefalcon 27 дней назад

      @KevinSeth666 depends how much corporate culture they appropriated I guess

  • @alexis1451
    @alexis1451 27 дней назад

    If I play WoW for 10 years and then suddenly they add something that I really dislike in it, or even something that makes me now unable to play; how many years of refunds do you think I should be able to get back?

  • @Spookiest_
    @Spookiest_ 28 дней назад

    Good morning Mr. Peg.

  • @stonii420
    @stonii420 28 дней назад +16

    AND WE AS A COMMINTY ARE JUST LETTING THIS HAPPAN.
    nothing is gonna change. were letting this happen.

    • @nelAjamZ
      @nelAjamZ 28 дней назад +1

      If u read Licence or Eula u probably not gonna wasted money for spyware on Pc...

    • @bernpaulson
      @bernpaulson 27 дней назад +4

      Not really? So many people are submitting refund requests and changing reviews to negative

    • @theirresponsibleghost7748
      @theirresponsibleghost7748 27 дней назад

      what the fuck are you talking about?

  • @ShakenBake3381
    @ShakenBake3381 27 дней назад

    hoping this gets corrected. I appreciate the thorough coverage.

  • @butterbee2384
    @butterbee2384 27 дней назад

    Is this coming to all other PlayStation PC LLC published games too?
    God Of War, Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered, Ghost of Tsushima, The Last of Us, etc.

  • @RickRate
    @RickRate 28 дней назад +3

    i get EFT Vibes from this...
    to what game does this happen next? :D

  • @landa2
    @landa2 27 дней назад

    PhillyD of gaming news might be a good niche, could be a way out of the Tarkov niche. Twice a week well researched with reaction videos.. way to go

  • @mistersmacky
    @mistersmacky 27 дней назад +1

    If Sony are worried the PS kiddies might be upset by PC players they can just remove crossplay altogether.

  • @Robinss0n
    @Robinss0n 27 дней назад +1

    They wanna create their own launcher

  • @aliti9315
    @aliti9315 27 дней назад

    People are also not allowed to close their accounts at the moment. They straight up block it.

  • @ChristopherSloane
    @ChristopherSloane 27 дней назад

    I have tried three refund attempts and was rejected on all of them asking for my money to be returned to PayPal I've used not only my own but proven return reasons and was still rejected they say the same thing you've owned the game for more than 2 weeks and you have more than x amount of hours on it which did not seem to be a factor for other players the only thing I can think of now is that steam does not want to give you my money back so the only other option is to select the put money in Steam wallet which makes steam look like a bunch of assholes because of their greed

  • @physetermacrocephalus2209
    @physetermacrocephalus2209 28 дней назад +3

    Sony Online Entertainment was bought by Columbus Nova 9 years ago; what SOE is he talking about? The home office in Japan?

    • @xavier2094
      @xavier2094 28 дней назад

      ????

    • @xavier2094
      @xavier2094 28 дней назад

      I'm confused what part does SOE have a hand on in this?

    • @physetermacrocephalus2209
      @physetermacrocephalus2209 28 дней назад

      @@xavier2094
      He referenced Sony Online Entertainment and its also still listed as a division on the Sony website. I can only assume its the original Japanese SOE because the American branch no longer exists unless Sony America revived the name for something.

  • @ghostphil6030
    @ghostphil6030 28 дней назад +2

    Even if Sony would change that for Helldivers 2, they still do so much other shit. (Not that other companies don't do that as well.)

  • @not9387
    @not9387 27 дней назад

    Really liked this game, going to miss it. It was a blast spreading democracy with all of you.

  • @waldemar860
    @waldemar860 27 дней назад

    as a veteran who fought for democracy on multiple planets , watching my brothers die in front of me, their limbs scattered all around me, this is unacceptable.

  • @MatchlessMarx
    @MatchlessMarx 27 дней назад

    Attempted to refund 2-3 times. Changed wording each time. Steam refused. Each time. Sadge

  • @bluecheeselol
    @bluecheeselol 28 дней назад

    Anyone been able to actually get a refund? I requested one siting this incident and was denied

  • @RenYi_Abarai
    @RenYi_Abarai 27 дней назад

    We were expecting Illuminate, instead we got Sony
    Title says it all.
    I'm just devastated, i cant make PSN, due to my location and i wont be able to play, I was so busy having fun that I forgot about corporate greed for a moment.....

  • @KevskiSmit
    @KevskiSmit 28 дней назад

    Link to list of countries please?

  • @kieronsullivan9515
    @kieronsullivan9515 27 дней назад +1

    I bet it’s to get around ingame purchases thru steam

  • @SalemikTUBE
    @SalemikTUBE 27 дней назад +1

    It's not about "access to PSN". Sony are requiring this in order to bring in their AI monitoring of in game speech. All the platforms intend to link up and share their ban lists to enable a blanket banning of anyone banned on one game.
    Yet another DEI implementation brought to us all by Larry Fink. "We intend to enforce behaviours".

    • @randomentity6553
      @randomentity6553 27 дней назад

      Actually it's worse than that - he said "We have to FORCE" behaviors." (more than once)
      I bet his liver would pair well with a nice Chianti. nom nom nom

  • @enok7934
    @enok7934 27 дней назад

    I can't believe people are only complaining now that they're enforcing rules which they stated on the sales page. I feel like saying "welcome to the internet".

  • @notmychannelname42
    @notmychannelname42 27 дней назад

    Wouldn't be surprised if Sony is doing this because they want to publish games similar to Helldivers in the future. Esp, considering how cheap it would be to make games like Helldivers with it's incredibly simple design.

  • @KaiUndMoritz
    @KaiUndMoritz 27 дней назад

    I just read on reddit that yall won. Congrats

  • @terrencemy1563
    @terrencemy1563 27 дней назад +2

    Step to screw steam players:
    1) require to link PSN account
    2) require to subscriber PS+ :P

  • @squirrelm3195
    @squirrelm3195 27 дней назад

    Sony told BSG to hold their beer and watch this

  • @TheJestersDoor
    @TheJestersDoor 27 дней назад +1

    Great video! Hopefully HD2 will still win goty somehow

  • @NeverKerst
    @NeverKerst 27 дней назад +1

    So cancel your PlayStation Now account for democracy

  • @nichtgenannt3226
    @nichtgenannt3226 27 дней назад

    Sony visited the same marketing meeting as BSG: how to piss of your community and kill your successfull game.

  • @RagnaTBE
    @RagnaTBE 27 дней назад

    We dive together, or we dont dive at all.

  • @BatJeff
    @BatJeff 27 дней назад

    Sony really saw the Tarkov dumpster fire and went "yeah. Lets do that."

  • @BruderSenf
    @BruderSenf 28 дней назад +1

    delisting could also be valve flexing its muscles which would be good, if its sony trying to cover its bad...

  • @Droogie128
    @Droogie128 27 дней назад

    Sony managed to snatch defeat from the Jaws of victory. This was a strong GOTY contender. No chance now

  • @404-Error-Not-Found
    @404-Error-Not-Found 27 дней назад

    Sony: We have a giant cash cow.
    Also sony: lets kill it.

  • @hiiambarney4489
    @hiiambarney4489 27 дней назад

    To be frank, I'm just happy I got Grayzone Warfare instead of Hell-diverse 2

  • @EarlsChannel
    @EarlsChannel 27 дней назад

    A lot of games have been having me ask why lately.

  • @garettparisien2405
    @garettparisien2405 27 дней назад

    this is a lesson for every game developer. be careful who you sign contracts with.

  • @TimmyInTarky
    @TimmyInTarky 27 дней назад

    I am wondering who literally who would in their right mind would want to work with Sony any time again in the future.

  • @justsomeboah5240
    @justsomeboah5240 27 дней назад +1

    but most of those countries are 'dark and/or sandy anyway

  • @bappo2693
    @bappo2693 27 дней назад

    What an unusual Major Order 😅

  • @b.s.7693
    @b.s.7693 27 дней назад

    Meantime, Gray Zone playerbase reaches new peakes day after day...

  • @Kvandy695
    @Kvandy695 27 дней назад

    Sony didn’t expect arrowhead to be a golden goose so they let them be. now they see their mistake and want to cash in but all they are going to do is kill the golden goose

  • @DarkPersona4
    @DarkPersona4 27 дней назад

    onepeg now the news reporter of video game business making dush bag moves i love this

  • @DummyThinksThoughts
    @DummyThinksThoughts 27 дней назад

    Great video , but arrowhead was definitely not on our side , they were extremely dismissive and nasty about it and not just that one post by spitz either .
    They didn't atart playing the role of "we are on your side" until the realization of the actual damage kicked in .

  • @emperorkraglint9792
    @emperorkraglint9792 27 дней назад

    2024 really is becoming the dark year for gaming

  • @Cifer77
    @Cifer77 27 дней назад

    It should be clarified these decisions are coming from Sony Interactive Entertainment, NOT Sony Computer Entertainment. Parent company Sony couldn't give a single shit how this turns out, and the huge success of this game is just a drop in the bucket of the parent companies yearly earnings.

  • @miciso666
    @miciso666 27 дней назад

    my friend cant play anymore since june 4th. so in protest with him im putting a negative review and refunding.
    we both plan to just buy marauders and battlefront classic for the money we get back.

  • @Knueppel_Kadse
    @Knueppel_Kadse 27 дней назад

    where to direct contact SONY ?

    • @pastabreaker4385
      @pastabreaker4385 27 дней назад

      Why would you want to yell at a minimum wage peon who answers emails?

  • @gansior4744
    @gansior4744 27 дней назад

    Game studios will make OnePeg rich with this rate of controversies

  • @TheDanNation
    @TheDanNation 27 дней назад

    So this is literally a Live Service and Investor push to make the moneybags feel better? Fuck Sony