I need to upgrade,and this reveiw was very helpful. GenII is just not cutting it in the "packable" category as you indicate. Now to find a honest vendor. Thanks for the detail review !
+Andy Palm Thank you! Check around on Ebay. It may take a bit, but you can sometimes come across a good deal. Also just Google the Gen III Multicam and you will find other dealers selling this. Ken
I used my level 5 set for high mountain deer hunting this year. Performed great, but it does absorb water in the shoulder areas. We only got rain light rain a few times, so I'm not too sure about heavy rains. I might try KIWI waterproof spray on it for next year.
@Duffelbag Drag Oh shit you're right, this jacket is level 5 rather than level 6. Here I am getting all confused and shit about some saying it's great and others saying "dude, not waterproof".
@Duffelbag Drag Yeah I saw that about the pocket access. I got out of the army in 2013 and don't remember the level 5 raincoat but we had the fleece and goretex. Was trying to get familiar again with the gear and I kept getting confused between the 2 jackets until I found the list with pictures after reading these comments. Happy to get it all sorted out so I could make a confident purchase.
Very cool, looking forward to the gortex jacket/pant review. I've bin thinking of upgrading my hunting kit. Last deer season here in canada we got rain for about a week straight
I recently acquired one of these jackets from my local Goodwill; despite being only slightly heavier material than the standard ACU uniform top, it's kept me comfortable in temperatures into the 40's Fahrenheit.
Mr. kjumper1, what is official temp range of Lvl 5 and Lvl 6? Live in Russia, summer night can be 9-13 Celsius here, not even spring or autumn. Need your advice. Thank you.
This was copied directly from the manufactures website: adsinc.com/equipment/gen-iii-ecwcs/ Level 5 Level V: Soft Shell Cold Weather Jacket & Trousers Shell Layer: Designed to be worn with base and insulation levels for use in moderate to cold conditions. The Soft Shell Cold Weather Jacket and Trousers are designed for use in moderate to cold weather conditions as a soft shell combined with other base and insulative layers. Level 6 Level VI: Extreme Wet/Cold Weather Jacket & Trousers Shell Layer: A waterproof barrier designed to be worn over other levels in moderate to cold wet conditions alternating between freezing and thawing. The Wet/Cold Weather Jacket and Trousers are designed for use in moderate to cold wet conditions as a hard shell layer combined with other base and insulative layers. The Gen III ECWCS is designed to maintain adequate environmental protection in temperatures ranging between -60 and +40 Fahrenheit (about -51 and +4 Celsius). This means the entire GEN III ensemble such as shown on the ADSinc website. Hope this information helped? Ken
sir can u give me some advice on the size? I am 5'10" and 180 lbs. I think Medium Regular would fit..or it could be bigger than I thought? what size do u wear and how does it fit?
Hey Kjumper - great review! I purchased the Lvl 6 after watching your review, but I think there's a definite use for the lvl 5 as well. In regards to size to you find them quite similar fitting between the 5 & 6 - is one larger/slimmer than the other?
Got this jacket and trousers and they dont breath at all. My sweat is just stops on the inner wall of the jacket and it does not go out. Does anybody have an idea why is that happening? I also use the level 6 gore-tex jacket and trousers and I have no such problems with them.
Good day Sir, very great review!! Kindly can you give me some advices for the size? I'm 5'7", 37" chest and 155lbs, I usually wear a USGI multicam Ocp Uniform in Small regular, i have a USGI gen 3 Level 4 wind jacket in Medium regular and fits great, a USGI gen 3 level 6 goretex in Medium regular and this it's to much big. I would like to get a gen 3 level 5 soft shell, does this fits like level six? So i'll get a smaller size... Thanks in Advance
IMHO you're supposed to take the same size as your BDU/ACU, since they run larger as you go up in Levels, meant to be worn one after the other one. I have all M/R and it's fine. The only one that runs HUGE is Patagonia.
+ArimaKihe1 I actually wore it out the other day in a really heavy downpour and I stayed bone dry. I haven't found any waterproofing issues at all with the level 5. Ken
Interesting. Thanks for the reply! Have you used a Level 5 in prolonged heavy showers or just the occasional downpour? I hunt in NZ and need something that can handle the stop/start showers we get -_-
This was a pretty heavy rainstorm that went on for a couple of hours. If you wanted to spray with a fabric protector such as Scotchguard, then you wouold have that extra layer of waterproofing.
+kjumper1 it sounds almost perfect. I guess I can't go wrong with owning a Lvl 5 and 6! Btw can I ask what height/waist size you are so I can get an idea of the cut/fit?
I"ve got the ACU version. Use for snowboarding. The suspenders are on the side and I no fucking idea how to wear suspenders that attach on the sides not the front and back
I need to upgrade,and this reveiw was very helpful. GenII is just not cutting it in the "packable" category as you indicate. Now to find a honest vendor.
Thanks for the detail review !
+Andy Palm Thank you! Check around on Ebay. It may take a bit, but you can sometimes come across a good deal. Also just Google the Gen III Multicam and you will find other dealers selling this.
Ken
thanks Ken
I used my level 5 set for high mountain deer hunting this year. Performed great, but it does absorb water in the shoulder areas. We only got rain light rain a few times, so I'm not too sure about heavy rains. I might try KIWI waterproof spray on it for next year.
@Duffelbag Drag Oh shit you're right, this jacket is level 5 rather than level 6. Here I am getting all confused and shit about some saying it's great and others saying "dude, not waterproof".
@Duffelbag Drag Yeah I saw that about the pocket access. I got out of the army in 2013 and don't remember the level 5 raincoat but we had the fleece and goretex. Was trying to get familiar again with the gear and I kept getting confused between the 2 jackets until I found the list with pictures after reading these comments. Happy to get it all sorted out so I could make a confident purchase.
@Duffelbag Drag Hey. How do you like the pants Lev5 vs Lev6? I’ve got the lev6 jacket. The level 5 pants seem a better choice. Thanks
This is a softshell. Your supposed to put level 6 goretex top and bottom over top for water proof layer
Level five is used to replace the regular ACU/OCP uniform in cold and wet weather
Very cool, looking forward to the gortex jacket/pant review. I've bin thinking of upgrading my hunting kit. Last deer season here in canada we got rain for about a week straight
nice suit and review ,,, all the best kenny
Thanks :)
I recently acquired one of these jackets from my local Goodwill; despite being only slightly heavier material than the standard ACU uniform top, it's kept me comfortable in temperatures into the 40's Fahrenheit.
thanks for posting looking at getting one of these jackets.
Top notch video
Mr. kjumper1, what is official temp range of Lvl 5 and Lvl 6? Live in Russia, summer night can be 9-13 Celsius here, not even spring or autumn. Need your advice. Thank you.
This was copied directly from the manufactures website:
adsinc.com/equipment/gen-iii-ecwcs/
Level 5
Level V: Soft Shell Cold Weather Jacket & Trousers
Shell Layer: Designed to be worn with base and insulation levels for use in moderate to cold conditions.
The Soft Shell Cold Weather Jacket and Trousers are designed for use in moderate to cold weather conditions as a soft shell combined with other base and insulative layers.
Level 6
Level VI: Extreme Wet/Cold Weather Jacket & Trousers
Shell Layer: A waterproof barrier designed to be worn over other levels in moderate to cold wet conditions alternating between freezing and thawing.
The Wet/Cold Weather Jacket and Trousers are designed for use in moderate to cold wet conditions as a hard shell layer combined with other base and insulative layers.
The Gen III ECWCS is designed to maintain adequate environmental protection in temperatures ranging between -60 and +40 Fahrenheit (about -51 and +4 Celsius). This means the entire GEN III ensemble such as shown on the ADSinc website.
Hope this information helped?
Ken
For Russia I'd take thermal t-shirt, fleece and the Level 7 Primaloft coat on top
These jackets seem to be very hard to find especially in a medium. Been looking and had no luck yet
The way I see it this is a replacement for the m65 and wet weather gear minus a liner.
Definitely not.
what is better 98 neylon and 2% spandex or 99 neylon and 1% lykra? There are different materials in level 5 f.e. by propper.....
How is the fabric about "repelling" burrs & resisting briars?
sir can u give me some advice on the size? I am 5'10" and 180 lbs. I think Medium Regular would fit..or it could be bigger than I thought? what size do u wear and how does it fit?
I'm the same measurements as you and I wear a large regular. It fits perfectly and allows for wearing of additional layers underneath.
Ken
Hey Kjumper - great review! I purchased the Lvl 6 after watching your review, but I think there's a definite use for the lvl 5 as well. In regards to size to you find them quite similar fitting between the 5 & 6 - is one larger/slimmer than the other?
Got this jacket and trousers and they dont breath at all. My sweat is just stops on the inner wall of the jacket and it does not go out. Does anybody have an idea why is that happening? I also use the level 6 gore-tex jacket and trousers and I have no such problems with them.
I have using it for about 3 years.
★NOTE★
THIS THING IS NOT WATERPROOF!
Good day Sir, very great review!! Kindly can you give me some advices for the size? I'm 5'7", 37" chest and 155lbs, I usually wear a USGI multicam Ocp Uniform in Small regular, i have a USGI gen 3 Level 4 wind jacket in Medium regular and fits great, a USGI gen 3 level 6 goretex in Medium regular and this it's to much big. I would like to get a gen 3 level 5 soft shell, does this fits like level six? So i'll get a smaller size...
Thanks in Advance
IMHO you're supposed to take the same size as your BDU/ACU, since they run larger as you go up in Levels, meant to be worn one after the other one. I have all M/R and it's fine. The only one that runs HUGE is Patagonia.
Great review!!! I've heard the level 5 is water resistant up to torential rain - have you had much experience with the Level 5 in heavy rain?
+ArimaKihe1 I actually wore it out the other day in a really heavy downpour and I stayed bone dry. I haven't found any waterproofing issues at all with the level 5.
Ken
Interesting. Thanks for the reply! Have you used a Level 5 in prolonged heavy showers or just the occasional downpour? I hunt in NZ and need something that can handle the stop/start showers we get -_-
This was a pretty heavy rainstorm that went on for a couple of hours. If you wanted to spray with a fabric protector such as Scotchguard, then you wouold have that extra layer of waterproofing.
+kjumper1 it sounds almost perfect. I guess I can't go wrong with owning a Lvl 5 and 6! Btw can I ask what height/waist size you are so I can get an idea of the cut/fit?
I am 5ft 10in and waist size 36. The size for level 5/6 is a Large Regular
I"ve got the ACU version. Use for snowboarding. The suspenders are on the side and I no fucking idea how to wear suspenders that attach on the sides not the front and back
addition to my comment below, level 6 would have been nice. But its too noisy for hunting with.
+welpro21 Yeah it does make a bit of a rustling noise
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Love that single stitch quality lmao