It's obviously offset and I really hate that. I know they're trying not to get sued but since the upper horn of an SG also is slightly bigger and offset they should just make it symmetrical. Looks much better in my opinion. There is a builder who does that and it looks much better than the original design since asymmetry always irritated me with the original.
OK, I want it. That neck pickup spoke to me and the fit and finish is insane for the price, hell, even without factoring price. That is a proper SG, I don't care what the headstock says.
@@bretthuhn8666 I purchased a 2x12 cabinet there. It got here quick, (few days) but the shipping, and fees made things more expensive. Still worth it if you can't find a rebranded version on Amazon.
I have this guitar.. Plays beautifully and sounds amazing. BUT it has one HUGE flaw. The body is almost as thick as a Les Paul! That completely takes away that super light and thin feeling from an SG. I weighed mine, and it comes in at 3.7kg (8.1lbs). In fact I am sending it back next week, since despite all of it great aspects it doesn't give you that SG feel at all. Felt like sharing that, since almost no one ever mentions that online!
Thank you for sharing the weight, i just checked my 2009 epiphone sg-g400 and it is 6.08 pounds with gotoh upgrades, but the HB sounds and looks really good. Take care.
It's Nato....Nato is the same wood as the neck on most Tiesco guitars from late 60's. I actually want a thicker body SG, have a thin one, so I think I'll get one. To each his own I guess, thanks for the advice.
Wow!! HB are really upping their game Andy. That’s a Superb value axe. We’ve all missed a push pull at least once so no worries there 😊👍👍. Those Teslas sound fantastic l. I have the previous generation of this and I had to change the pups and tuners but I wouldn’t change a thing in that. Excellent review Andy - cheers 👍👍👍😊😊 Coilsplit 😂😂
Those pickups sound fantastic. The neck is very bright for a full size humbucker. I looked up the specs and it's only wound to 7.2k-ohms, which explains why it's so nicely detailed and bright. The bridge is wound to about 8.8k, which is in the hot-PAF range. Awesome pickup combo. I'm not sure how you hear "modern" or "high output", because these are very much vintage-voiced pickups, especially the neck.
Compared to the humbuckers i have heard in the other harley bentons, and just from listening, the sound is very high output. The resistance of the pickups does not necessarily reflect the output sound.
Great review and serious rocking demos! That middle setting with both pick-ups has to be the weirdest I've heard on any 2-humbucker guitar. Though the bridge and neck pick-ups sound great!
@@TheGuitarGeek Well wouldn't you know it, that middle setting is indeed likely out of phase, but weird it's not using a push/pull for it. Sounds similar to my Epiphone LP Modern when I pull up the phase knob. Thanks again!
One thing I like about this guitar is the “Coil Split” one thing I didn’t like is how long it took you to split said coils 😂👌🏼 I normally use Gotoh as my Go-toh for upgrades 👌🏼 😉
Should Not Exist !! Excellent Review all around, super attention to detail, pointing out Pro's and Con's and showing your Geek knowledge of the equipment NOT showing off Licks... which I appreciate. Made me wanna go buy one! 😋
I've just bought the older version (DC Custom) which strangely is slightly more expensive. Mine is much lighter than my Les Paul clones. Plays, sounds and looks way above a £200 guitar. I wanted the cherry red colour and the 24 frets which this model isn't available with. I am an old bodger guitar player and I would be happy to play Harley Bentons before I shuffle off this mortal coil (split) see what I did there..watched to the end of the video
Great guitar I like my DC-VI. I swapped the bridge for a Seymour Duncan Black Winter. I may do a black pick gaurd for that kinda look. It doesn't "coil split" like this but the x3 humbuckers are rad.
I bought the black version after seeing this review, and I have the same response everyday-how can this be? With shipping from Germany to Utah $313! To say it exceeded my expectations would be a massive understatement.
Unbelievably spec'd monster that looks like a Disney princess! The only bit I don't like is the coil-split, but hey, that's not something to split hairs over!
I got a Harley Benton R-456FR Progressive, slapped some new Daddario NYXL1152 strings on and some stronger springs for the Floyd Rose and I love it! I'm relearning how to play the guitar after a long hiatus due to injury and will eventually pick some EMG's pickups but for now, it's perfect.
hiya bud. now thats a nice piece of kit , lots of nice hardware on it. ive really got a hankering to get one of their HB 35 plus '335' type guitars, just looks feckin lovely. anyway...nice review as always andy. keep up the good work m8 :)
I just received mine in late December. I set the neck almost straight and lowered the strings to around 1/16" both bass and treble side. But the biggest and most noticeable difference in playability was achieved when I cut the nut slots properly. Now the guitar plays as good as, if not better than, a couple of my guitars that cost near ten times the price of this one. I REALLY like this Harley Benton DC-Deluxe Gotoh. It's loaded with great features and it just looks great too! I have the Daphne blue, non-gloss finish, and love the way the neck feels so smooth and does not get sticky. For those considering this guitar, I just wanted to mention that you may need to have the nut cut to get its playability up to its optimum. You may also need to steel wool the stainless steel frets because they are a bit scratchy from the factory (just remember to frog-tape over your pickups first!). Also, you may want to relocate the strap button to the tip of the upper horn so that there's no neck dive. Otherwise, it will dive like a submarine every time you let go of the neck! lol! After doing these things and putting on new strings, I can honestly say I'm happy with my purchase.
Nice review, and you even left your oversight off the COIL SPLIT pickups in the edit. Kudos for that! It definitely looks like a really well spec'd guitar for the 💷.
Coil split and realize we are living in a better world. The machinery is getting better and better so it might be easier to make better guitars. Also, it was written somewhere that guitar sales are increasing globally. Well done HB! Make more guitars. Guitars make people happy and maybe less war.
Hey Andy this was an awesome video, Coil Split a go-go, it happens to the best man !!!! damn I am just buying a JA 60 otherwise I would have gone for this but thanks anyway for the temptation. Great job Andy thanks mate as always, love and best wishes, Paul.
I have the 24 fret custom version and I adore the single coil split on it. Sounds fanrastic for a vintage blues, slightly pushed ‘on the edge of breakup’ sound. I actually far prefer it over the strat sound. Then simply pushit back in and you’re back in humbucker zone. Brilliant guitars.
Those are modeled after the ESP Viper which is why there is only one master and one tone pot and the body shape is more offset…the Harley Benton DC-580 has the SG/LP style two tones-two volume layout
Since i bought my first Harley Benton sc custom ii P90s , i m in love with their guitars and prices. I have already order the Harley Benton SC DLX Gotoh Daphne Blue.
I recently bought the DC 580 Custom , I love the guitar. How does this guitar compare to that ? Thanks in advance ... COIL SPLIT ! which BTW my DC 580 Custom does have . Awesome review by the way , big thumbs skyward 👍👍👍☮☮☮🤘🤘🤘
He did it again 🙂 Nice demo of another Harley B. bargain guitar, i'm no Humbucker guy, but this thing makes it easy to make a step out of my normal guitar range. You still don't want to sell the Shell Pink TE-62 HB guitar 🎸? 🤗
I've got one of these in Pelham Blue, I'm about to swap the pickup magnets for an Alnico 8 in the bridge for more output, a rounder high end, more mids and a tighter low end, and an A4 in the neck to sweeten up the highs so they aren't so bright. I'll also be switching the coil split for a partial coil split like PRS does.
I have the H.B DC Custom, and it is a great guitar EXCEPT for the dreaded neck dive. I initially fitted wheel weights inside the controls cavity...it felt a bit better. I bought a wider strap...no noticeable difference. In exasperation, I realised it was the Grover tuners, they are really heavy, so I replaced them for Wilkinson tulip type tuners....now (at last!) it is playable while standing up.
Just received my dc.. the colour is more like turquoise than daphne blue in person. Do you know what the type of paint it is or if its a plastic covering? Such a good quality guitar.. really looks like a high end one..just wish ide gotten the black..didn't want to pay an extra 40 euros though :)
Thats a cracking SG type for the cash. Some sensational sounds from that neck. Wonder if the "coil split" out of phase Greenie thing with both positions was intentional, yet with more gain, the out of phase sound wasn't as prominent. Stella work as always Andy 🤘
@@TheGuitarGeek I will give you that, plus you havd been playing it haha. I guess that sound is something simply just different/modern or unique and clearly it is a usable "thing", just its own niche "thing" haha
That's pretty darned cool. The white one looks ace too - white and gold.. MMmmmm - but I just don't need another guitar... do I. Do i? And wow - coil split!
I own the LP version of this guitar the QC wasn’t the best, but after a good set up it’s very nice. I was impressed with the Tesla pickups. I really like mine.
@@TheGuitarGeek Awesome !! Can't wait. The LP deluxe I have definitely is really light. It has weight relief cuts in it and you can definitely tell it's a dream to play and it looks amazing, I was surprised about how huge these stainless steel frets are, they're like extra super obese jumbo frets... I like them, just bums me out I can't find any as huge I really wanted to add a zero fret to this guitar, however, I did see a really nice brass nut where each string is adjustable so I am leaning that way.
I brought my shell pink one on clearance for £150! If it was a dog I was going to strip the hardware for parts for my LP copy, im not changing anything, maybe the pickups but they sound great for low gain or blues. My only criticism is the screws are sharp at the top, the pick guard is a bit naff being thick single ply
An Underrated force of Nature Beauty there's something very special about the Headstock shape and the fact that is darkened or Ebonized rosewood neck, also the fact that it has the right tuners keystone shape i ll never have it any other way just give it to me on BLACK cos TONY IOMMI showed me the way and SG for President only wish the input was infront just like old Gibson style
I shouldn't come and watch your reviews because now I want it and I just bought a Yammy (which is nice) arrrghhhh! So many guitars so little time and money! Subbed..........
I love both of my HB SGs. Have the Vintage Cherry and the DC600-VI and they are awesome. I upgraded almost everything on them but they were honestly just fine out of the box, and mine aren't even the Gotoh models. I just like tinkering LOL
What is the cavity like on the 600... That's the 3 pickup right? Also does it seem like a regular full sized batwing guard would go on without too much trouble?
I'm not a fan of its offset bodyshape too! An SG has to be an SG and not a Viper. For its price it is more than damn good and not to forget the "coilsplit" at the end of the video... 😉
@@TheGuitarGeek "coil split " could you at some point also review the Harley Benton Dc custom cherry? Would love to see how they compare/differ. Great review by the way.
Yessir! Coil-split. I stayed til the end of the video. For a nice fella like you and a great guitar like that one, yes. I watched til the very end. I gotta get me one of those. God bless you dear brother "accross the pond." ☺👍
Sorry but you're wrong. It may get any better: i got mine for only 179€ as B-stock. it needed some attention on the trussrod and lowering the bridge almost to block leads to a nice setup. even in noisy environment the pickups do a very good job, no need to change that. thanks to your video i found my almost overseen Allen-Key. but different from yours i recieved an gold sparkling pickguard extra to change for the balck one.. one minor issuse: i have a tiny "wormhole" below E on 8th fret on the ebony..so every instrument seems to be a bit unique. i am very happy with weight and balance too and this "Daphne" will become one of my favorite go-to guitars for jamming and live sessions. i enjoyed your video in all length :-)
Don’t know how accurate these reviews really are - every Harley Benton guitar is amazing according to him - not my experience - I’ve had to do a fair amount of work on the HBs I’ve bought
Hello Mr Coil-Split....there I stayed! Greta vid - trying to decide, Epiphone SG Standard or this one, harley benton dc custom gotoh (though I'd go for the black- yes I'm ACDC fan!!) Please help....yes budget limited. Oh yes....I'm sure HB are paying you but please be as objective as poss.... appreciated.
Mine also came with a Gold pickguard which I put it on. I love it. I have some pricey guitars. This is one of my favs. Tesla Pickups have been around. I had a Hohner with Teslas and when I got a guitar from Dot In Shaft (Canadian company long defunct) I had an issue with the pickups and they replaced them with two Teslas. I have liked every pair.
Coil split. I'm a non guitar player. I'm not any kind of musician. I just like Andy's videos, and am learning some terminology. Please forgive my novice question, but when Andy said it would be "awful" if a guitar came out of the box tuned, why is that? Thank you in advance🙂
I am so happy to read this and you SHOULD try picking up a guitar and seeing how much fun it is. Regarding the AWFUL comment, i may have gone too far but only in my opinion, an in-tune guitar could be under too much tension for travelling and could results in a neck break (unlikely but it happens) but most of all... an in-tune guitar means that someone could have checked the guitar before sending it out for review and i want something that any customer could receive.
ordered the Shell Oink. Cant wait to compare to my other SG - an Epiphone Tony Iommi G-400. Talk about polar opposites. Also have the Satin Black HB tele, which i love.
I genuinely want one, SS frets on a 250 EUR guitar is already an absolute win for me. I wish they would ship on where I am though, though even if they did the shipping fee would probably be the same price as the guitar lmao.
It’s possible because they cut corners everywhere corners can be cut: 1. Low Wages to workers 2. Inexpensive hardware/parts 3. Wood sourced in bulk and not kiln dried as long as better instruments 4. Direct sales through Thomann 5. Inexpensive Marketing via RUclips personalities instead of marketing via traditional avenues 6. Low quality control and quality assurance to keep the cost factor down further (less man minutes by far per each instrument)
@@TheGuitarGeek I’ll assume this is not a sarcastic question, but old outdated traditional marketing campaigns in the industry would involve considerable expense through old media of magazines primarily This would involve many tens of thousands of dollars for ad campaigns within just a single magazine, which would completely preclude any small company. Look at the guitar magazines of the 70s to 90s- the advertisement contracts are purchased by a relative handful of companies who could afford the gigantic prices. The prices were so high because the magazines were the only (not literally but essentially) game in town and ad contracts were done quarterly at best Now instead for the low price of just product companies can flood RUclips personalities with gear which will be seen by orders of magnitude more eyes than the magazines could ever reach Don’t know if you are reading negativity in this but it is just a literal description of how things operate now, and I stand by each of the points
Andy, I wish I had your experience with this guitar. I bought this exact guitar in the same color. Mine just showed up a few days ago, and the neck and headstock are really twisted (rotated), and they cut the nut at a heavy angle to try to account for it. The pickups sound great, but because of the twist, it's uncomfortable to hold and play. Feels like I got one of their B-stock guitars instead of what I ordered.
Those are a whole lot of good design choices by Harley Benton. Seating the neck deeper into a thicker body definitely make this less prone to dividing itself in half (see Colin's video on gluing his SG neck!). Now, lose the binding around the neck and headstock, give it two volume knobs, one tone knob and a three way blade switch, ditch the coil split, a single wrap-around tail piece and it will be perfect. Oh, wait a minute, I just described the LTD Viper!!! Oh, and bring the front strap button to its correct position. Sorry for rambling...
I'm sure Gibson knows there's a better spot for the strap button. I guess they didn't want to drill a hole there. They leave that up to you if you're brave enough.
I need it!!!! With "coil splits"... Its a beautiful guitar with beautiful sound! And I wont refer to it as an "SG" or "SG-style" but rather a Double Cut.. But either way, I MUST HAVE ONE!!! Also love to blue finish
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Get it HERE: www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_dc_dlx_gotoh_daphne_blue.htm?offid=1&affid=288
It's obviously offset and I really hate that. I know they're trying not to get sued but since the upper horn of an SG also is slightly bigger and offset they should just make it symmetrical. Looks much better in my opinion. There is a builder who does that and it looks much better than the original design since asymmetry always irritated me with the original.
there are no available on Thomann. Is there any alternative?
@@milevojmatijas1852there in stock now
OK, I want it. That neck pickup spoke to me and the fit and finish is insane for the price, hell, even without factoring price. That is a proper SG, I don't care what the headstock says.
I agree with you. Go get it here - www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_dc_dlx_gotoh_daphne_blue.htm?offid=1&affid=288
@@TheGuitarGeek how about in the US market? Got a US link where u make yer ‘Vig’
@@bretthuhn8666 Thomann deliver to the US
@@bretthuhn8666 I purchased a 2x12 cabinet there. It got here quick, (few days) but the shipping, and fees made things more expensive. Still worth it if you can't find a rebranded version on Amazon.
@@qua7771 yeah man, it wanted me to Joing Thomann’s Germany. Is that normal?
You are the most real guy. When you discovered the push-pull pot I laughed out loud. Great channel. One of my favorites by far.
I have this guitar..
Plays beautifully and sounds amazing.
BUT it has one HUGE flaw. The body is almost as thick as a Les Paul!
That completely takes away that super light and thin feeling from an SG.
I weighed mine, and it comes in at 3.7kg (8.1lbs).
In fact I am sending it back next week, since despite all of it great aspects it doesn't give you that SG feel at all.
Felt like sharing that, since almost no one ever mentions that online!
Thank you for your sharing. This guitar seems very good and it was a huge temptation to me. I would buy it without hesitation if it was lighter.
Thank you for this information!
I much prefer light weight guitars. Definitely would not consider purchasing one of these.
100`% correct only 8lbs. You got a light one mate
Thank you for sharing the weight, i just checked my 2009 epiphone sg-g400 and it is 6.08 pounds with gotoh upgrades, but the HB sounds and looks really good. Take care.
It's Nato....Nato is the same wood as the neck on most Tiesco guitars from late 60's. I actually want a thicker body SG, have a thin one, so I think I'll get one. To each his own I guess, thanks for the advice.
Wow!! HB are really upping their game Andy. That’s a Superb value axe. We’ve all missed a push pull at least once so no worries there 😊👍👍. Those Teslas sound fantastic l. I have the previous generation of this and I had to change the pups and tuners but I wouldn’t change a thing in that. Excellent review Andy - cheers 👍👍👍😊😊
Coilsplit 😂😂
Thanks Tom, yes this is next level HB!
Those pickups sound fantastic. The neck is very bright for a full size humbucker. I looked up the specs and it's only wound to 7.2k-ohms, which explains why it's so nicely detailed and bright. The bridge is wound to about 8.8k, which is in the hot-PAF range. Awesome pickup combo. I'm not sure how you hear "modern" or "high output", because these are very much vintage-voiced pickups, especially the neck.
Compared to the humbuckers i have heard in the other harley bentons, and just from listening, the sound is very high output. The resistance of the pickups does not necessarily reflect the output sound.
A5 mags, prolly.
The neck is dark . My god
The neck is bright
Great review and serious rocking demos! That middle setting with both pick-ups has to be the weirdest I've heard on any 2-humbucker guitar. Though the bridge and neck pick-ups sound great!
Thanks! Yes, that middle position is an odd one but I really enjoyed it
@@TheGuitarGeek Well wouldn't you know it, that middle setting is indeed likely out of phase, but weird it's not using a push/pull for it. Sounds similar to my Epiphone LP Modern when I pull up the phase knob. Thanks again!
One thing I like about this guitar is the “Coil Split” one thing I didn’t like is how long it took you to split said coils 😂👌🏼 I normally use Gotoh as my Go-toh for upgrades 👌🏼 😉
yeah... I should have realised that a little quicker. Never again!
So easily done though I suppose, thanks for the upload And reveiw ✌🏼
@@mattdoliver1984 you are welcome
@@TheGuitarGeek Should have noticed it 2 seconds after taking it out the box, nice guitar though.
Should Not Exist !! Excellent Review all around, super attention to detail, pointing out Pro's and Con's and showing your Geek knowledge of the equipment NOT showing off Licks... which I appreciate. Made me wanna go buy one! 😋
" showing your Geek knowledge of the equipment NOT showing off Licks" a lost art making a return.
Thanks to this video this guitar will be my first guitar
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I am now sorely tempted to buy this. For the price that really is a remarkable guitar. Coil split
Hey Simon! Yeah its killer
All good. I have gone several days on a new guitar before discovering the push-pull function. I also laughed. Thanks for the review.
Glad to help! I felt so dumb...
I've just bought the older version (DC Custom) which strangely is slightly more expensive. Mine is much lighter than my Les Paul clones. Plays, sounds and looks way above a £200 guitar. I wanted the cherry red colour and the 24 frets which this model isn't available with. I am an old bodger guitar player and I would be happy to play Harley Bentons before I shuffle off this mortal coil (split) see what I did there..watched to the end of the video
Great guitar I like my DC-VI. I swapped the bridge for a Seymour Duncan Black Winter. I may do a black pick gaurd for that kinda look. It doesn't "coil split" like this but the x3 humbuckers are rad.
Dude...I'm sold...you made this guitar scream! Are the pickups waxed?
Wow. That is some serious spec!! Great value guitar, great review!
Thanks brother! It really is a lot of guitar
I bought the black version after seeing this review, and I have the same response everyday-how can this be? With shipping from Germany to Utah $313! To say it exceeded my expectations would be a massive understatement.
Unbelievably spec'd monster that looks like a Disney princess! The only bit I don't like is the coil-split, but hey, that's not something to split hairs over!
It is odd that is has coil split. My daughter said it was the same colour as Elsa's dress
Holy moly, 2-24 is my birthday, this review is definitely a sign.
That's a cool SG that won't break the bank and it even has coil split.
Hey Dale! Yeah i am with you
I got a Harley Benton R-456FR Progressive, slapped some new Daddario NYXL1152 strings on and some stronger springs for the Floyd Rose and I love it! I'm relearning how to play the guitar after a long hiatus due to injury and will eventually pick some EMG's pickups but for now, it's perfect.
Glad to hear you are back at it!
The middle position reminds me somehow to the vintage Gold foil Pickups 😀
hiya bud. now thats a nice piece of kit , lots of nice hardware on it. ive really got a hankering to get one of their HB 35 plus '335' type guitars, just looks feckin lovely. anyway...nice review as always andy. keep up the good work m8 :)
Thanks! The HB 35 is also a great guitar
I just received mine in late December. I set the neck almost straight and lowered the strings to around 1/16" both bass and treble side. But the biggest and most noticeable difference in playability was achieved when I cut the nut slots properly. Now the guitar plays as good as, if not better than, a couple of my guitars that cost near ten times the price of this one. I REALLY like this Harley Benton DC-Deluxe Gotoh. It's loaded with great features and it just looks great too! I have the Daphne blue, non-gloss finish, and love the way the neck feels so smooth and does not get sticky. For those considering this guitar, I just wanted to mention that you may need to have the nut cut to get its playability up to its optimum. You may also need to steel wool the stainless steel frets because they are a bit scratchy from the factory (just remember to frog-tape over your pickups first!). Also, you may want to relocate the strap button to the tip of the upper horn so that there's no neck dive. Otherwise, it will dive like a submarine every time you let go of the neck! lol! After doing these things and putting on new strings, I can honestly say I'm happy with my purchase.
nice natural presentation, very clear, nice playing too, thank you!
Coil split! Boom!!! Great video. Seems HB is becoming a fierce competitor against a few other guitar manufacturers. Thanks for a great video. 😊
Is the neck on the more slim side? If so I’m think I’m gonna get it.
Nice review, and you even left your oversight off the COIL SPLIT pickups in the edit. Kudos for that! It definitely looks like a really well spec'd guitar for the 💷.
Thanks! 👍
Mine arrives in 3 days, I cannot wait. Your vid sold me completely...
I think I’d try tweaking balance of the middle position with pickup height (more neck) to see if it helps, but no matter, that is a beautiful guitar!
Coil split and realize we are living in a better world. The machinery is getting better and better so it might be easier to make better guitars. Also, it was written somewhere that guitar sales are increasing globally. Well done HB! Make more guitars. Guitars make people happy and maybe less war.
Music can fix a lot of things.
Black Sabbath, war pigs
Agreed with you about the middle pick up position overdriven but through the clean amp it sounded amazing.
Hey Andy this was an awesome video, Coil Split a go-go, it happens to the best man !!!! damn I am just buying a JA 60 otherwise I would have gone for this but thanks anyway for the temptation. Great job Andy thanks mate as always, love and best wishes, Paul.
I have the 24 fret custom version and I adore the single coil split on it. Sounds fanrastic for a vintage blues, slightly pushed ‘on the edge of breakup’ sound. I actually far prefer it over the strat sound. Then simply pushit back in and you’re back in humbucker zone. Brilliant guitars.
Those are modeled after the ESP Viper which is why there is only one master and one tone pot and the body shape is more offset…the Harley Benton DC-580 has the SG/LP style two tones-two volume layout
Got it! Thanks. I wish I had realised this before i made the video.. D'oh!
I just ordered mine, should be here in a week or so, It was the last brand new one available, and I have a feeling they might not keep making them...
That’s an awesome guitar and a great review 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 coil split
Since i bought my first Harley Benton sc custom ii P90s , i m in love with their guitars and prices. I have already order the Harley Benton SC DLX Gotoh Daphne Blue.
Great video (coil split) ☺️ I been looking at a few Harley Bentons and found this really informative keep up the great videos 😊
Awesome! Thank you!
How’s the neck on it is it thick or thin cause I been looking at the black one but want it to be a thin neck
It's thin to medium.
They are only £199 now. Seems like the best budget SG without going Epiphone.
I recently bought the DC 580 Custom , I love the guitar. How does this guitar compare to that ? Thanks in advance ... COIL SPLIT ! which BTW my DC 580 Custom does have . Awesome review by the way , big thumbs skyward 👍👍👍☮☮☮🤘🤘🤘
Hi Tim! I have never played the DC 580 Custom sorry. Looking at the specs, this Gotoh version should be a far superior guitar.
@@TheGuitarGeek Thanks for the reply, I might just have to check out the Gotoh later on.
He did it again 🙂
Nice demo of another Harley B. bargain guitar, i'm no Humbucker guy, but this thing makes it easy to make a step out of my normal guitar range.
You still don't want to sell the Shell Pink TE-62 HB guitar 🎸? 🤗
Hope we see this type of quality in some left handed models Very Nice!
update one year later: this blue one is not available anymore, one "shell white". blue only as b-stock.
I think your right the middle position wires the humbuckers out of phase hence the lack of bottom end.
great review! but what about the wood? is it plywood?
Great review!
Is this guitar suitable for small hands?
I've got one of these in Pelham Blue, I'm about to swap the pickup magnets for an Alnico 8 in the bridge for more output, a rounder high end, more mids and a tighter low end, and an A4 in the neck to sweeten up the highs so they aren't so bright. I'll also be switching the coil split for a partial coil split like PRS does.
I have the Vintage Cherry SG. Love the growl of the Roswell pickups. Great bargain HB guitar. Only downside - neck dive - but liveable
I grip the neck pretty hard so I don't get the neck dive so much
I have the H.B DC Custom, and it is a great guitar EXCEPT for the dreaded neck dive. I initially fitted wheel weights inside the controls cavity...it felt a bit better. I bought a wider strap...no noticeable difference. In exasperation, I realised it was the Grover tuners, they are really heavy, so I replaced them for Wilkinson tulip type tuners....now (at last!) it is playable while standing up.
Just received my dc.. the colour is more like turquoise than daphne blue in person. Do you know what the type of paint it is or if its a plastic covering? Such a good quality guitar.. really looks like a high end one..just wish ide gotten the black..didn't want to pay an extra 40 euros though :)
Excellent video! Really enjoyed it…new sub!…and I’m likely going to grab one of these even though another guitar is the last thing I need😬😅
Thats a cracking SG type for the cash. Some sensational sounds from that neck. Wonder if the "coil split" out of phase Greenie thing with both positions was intentional, yet with more gain, the out of phase sound wasn't as prominent.
Stella work as always Andy 🤘
Cheers Paul. The middle position is an odd one but a fun one.
@@TheGuitarGeek I will give you that, plus you havd been playing it haha. I guess that sound is something simply just different/modern or unique and clearly it is a usable "thing", just its own niche "thing" haha
Thanks for this. Ordered the Pelham Blue version! Coil Split! 🙂
I need this in shell pink. Actually, my autocorrect wanted to type "shell oink" - and I'm still OK with that.
Amazing axe I need to split coils with.
Shell oink!!
@@TheGuitarGeek I'd buy that!
Nice video and thanks for putting the guitar name on the video title
A No Doubt band fan I'm guessing. I caught you played some of that riff. The part at 8:13.
100%
How bad is the neck dive? (It seems that the body is thicker than the regular SG's....)
That's pretty darned cool. The white one looks ace too - white and gold.. MMmmmm - but I just don't need another guitar... do I. Do i?
And wow - coil split!
you don't need it. You DON'T NEED IT!!!!! (but...)
Hello. I bought this model but the Pelham blue instead. I’m more for glossy finish than satin finish. Thank you 🙏 for the review.
So did I in Pelham Blue...
I own the LP version of this guitar the QC wasn’t the best, but after a good set up it’s very nice. I was impressed with the Tesla pickups. I really like mine.
Thanks for sharing! I have an LP video coming soon
@@TheGuitarGeek Awesome !! Can't wait. The LP deluxe I have definitely is really light. It has weight relief cuts in it and you can definitely tell it's a dream to play and it looks amazing, I was surprised about how huge these stainless steel frets are, they're like extra super obese jumbo frets... I like them, just bums me out I can't find any as huge I really wanted to add a zero fret to this guitar, however, I did see a really nice brass nut where each string is adjustable so I am leaning that way.
Coil Split! Your reviews are so fun. Cracks me up.
Glad you like them! I try hard to have fun as well as give some info.
What about the neck dive?
Is it worth saving for some mid range Epiphone (Standard, Muse) over this? I have a HB DC580 and looking for a slightly more capable SG.
I brought my shell pink one on clearance for £150! If it was a dog I was going to strip the hardware for parts for my LP copy, im not changing anything, maybe the pickups but they sound great for low gain or blues. My only criticism is the screws are sharp at the top, the pick guard is a bit naff being thick single ply
Coil split
I've just ordered one in Pelham Blue!
It looks and sounds amazing.
An Underrated force of Nature Beauty
there's something very special about the Headstock shape and the fact that is darkened or Ebonized rosewood neck, also the fact that it has the right tuners keystone shape
i ll never have it any other way
just give it to me on BLACK cos TONY IOMMI showed me the way
and SG for President
only wish the input was infront just like old Gibson style
I shouldn't come and watch your reviews because now I want it and I just bought a Yammy (which is nice) arrrghhhh! So many guitars so little time and money! Subbed..........
I love this colour on guitars. Sadly, if I buy this, I might mod the living shit out of this, even the "coil split" option :o ..
Hi, after this Video i have order this Guitar but in Pelham Blue. LG Detlev
I love both of my HB SGs. Have the Vintage Cherry and the DC600-VI and they are awesome. I upgraded almost everything on them but they were honestly just fine out of the box, and mine aren't even the Gotoh models. I just like tinkering LOL
Great to hear, Sean. The tuners on this were a big surprise
@@TheGuitarGeek That color is super cool. Pickups sounded great too! Great demo as always Sir!
What is the cavity like on the 600... That's the 3 pickup right? Also does it seem like a regular full sized batwing guard would go on without too much trouble?
Just ordered me one on reverb for 220!! This is such a steal I couldn't pass it up :)
Where did that no doubt inspiration come from 🔥🔥🔥
From the heavens! or the depths of my weird mind
@@TheGuitarGeek love it! We just shared a tab lesson so was curious if you saw it on your Ig! Love your channel man. Keep up the amazing content 💯🤘🤘
I'm not a fan of its offset bodyshape too! An SG has to be an SG and not a Viper. For its price it is more than damn good and not to forget the "coilsplit" at the end of the video... 😉
I don't like looking at it as much as I do playing it...
Just that, its a dc not a sg 😉
@@TheGuitarGeek "coil split " could you at some point also review the Harley Benton Dc custom cherry? Would love to see how they compare/differ. Great review by the way.
the SG has off set horns too, you just don't notice the way Angus jumps around.
Yessir! Coil-split. I stayed til the end of the video. For a nice fella like you and a great guitar like that one, yes. I watched til the very end. I gotta get me one of those. God bless you dear brother "accross the pond." ☺👍
I appreciate that! Enjoy it if you get it.
Sorry but you're wrong. It may get any better: i got mine for only 179€ as B-stock. it needed some attention on the trussrod and lowering the bridge almost to block leads to a nice setup. even in noisy environment the pickups do a very good job, no need to change that. thanks to your video i found my almost overseen Allen-Key. but different from yours i recieved an gold sparkling pickguard extra to change for the balck one..
one minor issuse: i have a tiny "wormhole" below E on 8th fret on the ebony..so every instrument seems to be a bit unique.
i am very happy with weight and balance too and this "Daphne" will become one of my favorite go-to guitars for jamming and live sessions. i enjoyed your video in all length :-)
Don’t know how accurate these reviews really are - every Harley Benton guitar is amazing according to him - not my experience - I’ve had to do a fair amount of work on the HBs I’ve bought
Stick around for he next Harley Benton review. That will answer your question
Great Guitar and great video, thanks.... Coil split!
Cheers!
Hello Mr Coil-Split....there I stayed! Greta vid - trying to decide, Epiphone SG Standard or this one, harley benton dc custom gotoh (though I'd go for the black- yes I'm ACDC fan!!) Please help....yes budget limited. Oh yes....I'm sure HB are paying you but please be as objective as poss.... appreciated.
Great demo, super great guitar, and cool "coil split" I wonder why the LTD is cheaper than the DLX...
thanks. I am not sure about the pricing
LTD has nickel frets, not stainles steel.
Coil Split! And wow you spent my 200 for me… 😂 dang. I just wanted an HB acoustic and I was going to mind my business but now I need that guitar
Mine also came with a Gold pickguard which I put it on. I love it. I have some pricey guitars. This is one of my favs. Tesla Pickups have been around. I had a Hohner with Teslas and when I got a guitar from Dot In Shaft (Canadian company long defunct) I had an issue with the pickups and they replaced them with two Teslas. I have liked every pair.
Very cool! Thanks for the helpful info Ralph
Coil split.
I'm a non guitar player. I'm not any kind of musician. I just like Andy's videos, and am learning some terminology.
Please forgive my novice question, but when Andy said it would be "awful" if a guitar came out of the box tuned, why is that?
Thank you in advance🙂
I am so happy to read this and you SHOULD try picking up a guitar and seeing how much fun it is.
Regarding the AWFUL comment, i may have gone too far but only in my opinion, an in-tune guitar could be under too much tension for travelling and could results in a neck break (unlikely but it happens) but most of all... an in-tune guitar means that someone could have checked the guitar before sending it out for review and i want something that any customer could receive.
As soon as I heard No Doubt I knew I needed this... HB #5
ordered the Shell Oink. Cant wait to compare to my other SG - an Epiphone Tony Iommi G-400. Talk about polar opposites. Also have the Satin Black HB tele, which i love.
Coil splittt!!!!! Jajajaja, may be you missed that detail, but for me that made the review better 🤣
I genuinely want one, SS frets on a 250 EUR guitar is already an absolute win for me.
I wish they would ship on where I am though, though even if they did the shipping fee would probably be the same price as the guitar lmao.
is everything stock on the guitar? Did you make any mods to it?
Great review Andy.
Thanks to this video thinking of getting this has my first guitar
Did the COIL SPLIT make up for the lack of additional tone and volume knobs?
Bought it, Pelham blue. Great review. Thank you. Ps coil split, haha
It’s possible because they cut corners everywhere corners can be cut:
1. Low Wages to workers
2. Inexpensive hardware/parts
3. Wood sourced in bulk and not kiln dried as long as better instruments
4. Direct sales through Thomann
5. Inexpensive Marketing via RUclips personalities instead of marketing via traditional avenues
6. Low quality control and quality assurance to keep the cost factor down further (less man minutes by far per each instrument)
I am interested in your 6th point. What are traditional avenues and how much do they costs compared to RUclips personalities?
@@TheGuitarGeek I’ll assume this is not a sarcastic question, but old outdated traditional marketing campaigns in the industry would involve considerable expense through old media of magazines primarily
This would involve many tens of thousands of dollars for ad campaigns within just a single magazine, which would completely preclude any small company. Look at the guitar magazines of the 70s to 90s- the advertisement contracts are purchased by a relative handful of companies who could afford the gigantic prices.
The prices were so high because the magazines were the only (not literally but essentially) game in town and ad contracts were done quarterly at best
Now instead for the low price of just product companies can flood RUclips personalities with gear which will be seen by orders of magnitude more eyes than the magazines could ever reach
Don’t know if you are reading negativity in this but it is just a literal description of how things operate now, and I stand by each of the points
Andy, I wish I had your experience with this guitar. I bought this exact guitar in the same color. Mine just showed up a few days ago, and the neck and headstock are really twisted (rotated), and they cut the nut at a heavy angle to try to account for it. The pickups sound great, but because of the twist, it's uncomfortable to hold and play. Feels like I got one of their B-stock guitars instead of what I ordered.
Those are a whole lot of good design choices by Harley Benton. Seating the neck deeper into a thicker body definitely make this less prone to dividing itself in half (see Colin's video on gluing his SG neck!). Now, lose the binding around the neck and headstock, give it two volume knobs, one tone knob and a three way blade switch, ditch the coil split, a single wrap-around tail piece and it will be perfect. Oh, wait a minute, I just described the LTD Viper!!! Oh, and bring the front strap button to its correct position. Sorry for rambling...
Not a ramble but a well-voiced comment!
I'm sure Gibson knows there's a better spot for the strap button. I guess they didn't want to drill a hole there. They leave that up to you if you're brave enough.
I just ordered the same...... great guitar....great review
Coil split, I love this game! I generally don't like SGs, but that one, is real nice! And you're still real goofy.
I need it!!!! With "coil splits"... Its a beautiful guitar with beautiful sound! And I wont refer to it as an "SG" or "SG-style" but rather a Double Cut.. But either way, I MUST HAVE ONE!!! Also love to blue finish
Right on!
Delivered to the U.K. £199 and £186 “B” stock … I don’t think you can go wrong AND in stock 👍 coil split 👍
Hello great review but was it neck heavy?
Not too bad. I do test this in the video...