Looks great using that vintage split louvre on top and everything including the wooden lower rotor and the connectivity options, also comes in both sizes too 122 and 142. Loved that he had a nod of approval when he was playing those chords while testing it out. Would consider it if I were to get a new setup, xk heritage and 2 of these, but I could only dream. I'm blessed with an RT3 and twin 147RVs which i was able to get for just around half the price of one of these new speakers, so I can't complain too much.
Seven grand? There are way too many vintage Leslies available, just ready to be hot-rodded. I'd like to edit/expand my response. Don Leslie was an Organist and very familiar with the layout of pipe organ divisions, where the pipes sound, alternately - C side to the C# side of a chest division, as the music is played, up and down the manuals! This accounts for a lot of the actual movement of sound, around the church or venue - as well as the complex reflection of music that the listener hears. I spent almost ten years in the pipe organ industry - helping to create these magnificent, monstrous instruments, as the foreman of the Wind Chest dept - the heart of these instruments! I understand what Don Leslie was trying to achieve. And NO digital or 'miked' Leslie can come close to the REAL experience! That is why a 'modded' and supercharged Leslie, with enough power to complete and over-power (if need be), other band amplification is NEEDED. So that the intended Leslie experience can surround the listeners in a club/concert setting! And THAT is why there is NO substitute for a natural, Leslie in a live setting! ❤
I don’t think people appreciate the industry sound that the “Hammond Sound” represents. Any musician will instantly recognize this sound. Hammond was the original substitute for churches (or any organization) that couldn’t afford a true pipe organ installation, I put the Hammond in such high regard as the Fender Strat , the Shure SM-58, Martin acoustic, Fender Rhodes, or the Spinet upright.
Thank you for the video presentation from NAMM. My career rock group opened the live performance show at one of the convention halls back in 1990. Might I add? I don't get this 'they got it right' thing. (the Leslie?) I have been a Hammond/Leslie owner since the 60ies, and went digital on the pro stage with a full XK-3c setup, lower manual and B3 Guy's stand, back when they were UN-heard of. Mated it with an original Leslie 330 bought new in 1976. So, I have a little bit of experience. Graduated to a bit of downsizing with the SK-2 and Studio 12 Leslie in a blues band for a number of years. These earlier Hammond digital organs models have all the tools, and keyboard 'feel', to make them sound just the way one would like. Two way EQUALIZED key click, all the mellowness or brightness you could ask for. Same with leakage and crosstalk. The built in digital Leslie and distortion/reverb effects are a great added plus. Hammond has been doing this for a long while now. Outside of the physical controls and logistics and perhaps the multi key contact system added to the XK-5, there has not been much of a change in 'they got it right'. (O: Oh, a bit more, many keyboardists/organists can't seem to understand......If it has the Hammond OR Leslie logo, it is NOT a clone or copy. It is a natural progression of the original, vintage electro mechanical instrument. All other companies ARE copies and present their own version of what they think a Hammond organ should look and sound like today. We saw this going on decades ago in the home organ market. Other brands' were including drawbars on their instruments and incorporating compact Leslie speakers in their consoles. I won't go into the brand names. Thanks for reading my rant, that is all.🙂
The Hammond/Leslie Suzuki Co. have been using those digitally controlled servo motors for years now. I think the expense is more about the solid core cabinet construction of the original build and of course the tube amp. As an audiophile, I would say the amp alone is a $1500 item 😉.
Yes, I agree. The light weight foam rotors are able to be driven by a single, smaller motor - digitally controlled. But, foam absorbs sound (lowering output). The old birch plywood bass rotors were sound nottle-necks and required the second, bigger motor for tremolo speed. But, were sound reflective. So, pluses and minuses. Whether bi amped or a power-robbing passive cross-over, they are still under-powered for experiencing the audio effects than Don Leslie wanted listeners to experience - especially in club/concert venues, with amplified instruments. Miking (even with a stereo sound system), loses everything Don Leslie created to simulate the complex experience of a pipe organ, in a large church or cathedral. The best solution (from my experience), is a serious multi-tube preamp, hit first by a overdrive pedal, then to an active crossover and into two high-powered (500+ watt, solid state), amps. With two high power 15" bass drivers below (in a wedge baffle), and two high power compression drivers (into a Y - shaped), treble duct under the horn - with extensions to the horns (even though only one horn is active). So far, this is the best setup I have found. Cheers!
@@jordanburrill883 Don Leslie's Leslie speaker was actually designed for the recreation of Theatre Organ Tremulant, not classic pipe organ (liturgical) Tremulant. The motors used in the 21 System, 3300 are not that small. The motors used in the Studio 12 however are smaller. Remember the 122NA, 147NA, 122XB, and 971 used Don Leslie's design of the pulsed AC motor system. The Styrofoam rotor was also a Don Leslie design. It's design was to correct the problems with the wooden rotor such as rotational balancing problems. Don Leslie's final and ultimate Theatre Organ Tremulant rotor design was the Rotosonic Drum.
This Leslie is way to expensive for most organist or keyboardist. Plenty of vintage 122, 145s and the 3300 out thereat way more reasonable prices. Then you have the Viscount Vortex 315 that is way lighter out there!
@@tom221263 Well, I can buy one of each for 1500-2000 a piece, even less if I find a bargain, that leaves cash enough to have them both worked through and set up to shape, and boom I have two instead of one (and a great investment for the future as well)...
the old 122 and 147 had the same preamp and power amp. the only difference is how they connected to the organs for speed switching. and the rotating horn has been the same design for 70 years. $7,000 for one of these is just idiotic. and why has the studio 12 been out of stock for years when they have one in the background? are they still making these or not?
The 122 amplifier and the 147 amp are VERY different circuits. The 147 uses a unbalanced audio input section, with two dedicated pins on the input for speed control. The 122 uses balanced audio input, and uses a form of phantom power to control the speed. (The 122 also provides B+ voltage back to the organ's preamp for older Hammonds. The power amp sections of these two amps are quite different in their cathode circuits and their feedback circuits. This results in a difference in each amplifier's voicing. The 122 was designed and voiced for use with tonewheel generator organs. The 147 was designed for use with Wurlitzer organs, an was also considered their universal model. the 147 was recommended for Hammond organs only when the Leslie needed to be connected to the internal organ speaker terminals. 122 and 147 cabinets were identical. Same speaker and driver, same rotors, same motors and even the same crossover network. The only difference between a 122 cabinet and a 147 cabinet is the amplifier.
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Hammond lives forever ...
Nothing like a real vintage hammond organ sound
Looks great using that vintage split louvre on top and everything including the wooden lower rotor and the connectivity options, also comes in both sizes too 122 and 142. Loved that he had a nod of approval when he was playing those chords while testing it out. Would consider it if I were to get a new setup, xk heritage and 2 of these, but I could only dream. I'm blessed with an RT3 and twin 147RVs which i was able to get for just around half the price of one of these new speakers, so I can't complain too much.
My old 145 leslie was 300 bucks in 1970---7 grand --not me
Yep that backpack is cool too
7,000 dollars. Nord is the competitor 💪🏾
I was just thinking the same thing!!! Now if the price is better then the Nord I won’t be thinking about the Nord!!!
I’m not sure how Nord is competing. They do not sell Leslie speakers. And the 7K is for the Leslie only
I have several on order
Let us give them all our money. 7k in Germany. Praise the lord. And the Suzuki CEO for a license to „print“ money. AMEN Bro
Did he say 7k!!!! 😮
Yep
Seven grand? There are way too many vintage Leslies available, just ready to be hot-rodded.
I'd like to edit/expand my response.
Don Leslie was an Organist and very familiar with the layout of pipe organ divisions, where the pipes sound, alternately - C side to the C# side of a chest division, as the music is played, up and down the manuals! This accounts for a lot of the actual movement of sound, around the church or venue - as well as the complex reflection of music that the listener hears.
I spent almost ten years in the pipe organ industry - helping to create these magnificent, monstrous instruments, as the foreman of the Wind Chest dept - the heart of these instruments!
I understand what Don Leslie was trying to achieve. And NO digital or 'miked' Leslie can come close to the REAL experience!
That is why a 'modded' and supercharged Leslie, with enough power to complete and over-power (if need be), other band amplification is NEEDED. So that the intended Leslie experience can surround the listeners in a club/concert setting! And THAT is why there is NO substitute for a natural, Leslie in a live setting!
❤
How would you adjust the ramp up/down speed on a vintage Leslie?
There is a small Leslie label on the back with two thumb screws you take them off and all the adjustments are right there!!!
@@wheatworkspro I have a 251, would it be in the same spot because I don’t see one
I don’t think people appreciate the industry sound that the “Hammond Sound” represents. Any musician will instantly recognize this sound. Hammond was the original substitute for churches (or any organization) that couldn’t afford a true pipe organ installation, I put the Hammond in such high regard as the Fender Strat , the Shure SM-58, Martin acoustic, Fender Rhodes, or the Spinet upright.
Everybody appreciates the Hammond sound. It’s everywhere, how could they not?
WHAT?!?! It’s the Hammond sound is still being used on recordings of all genres till this day…it is MUCH appreciated all over the world.
Hope that rotor speed is adjustable.
Yes it is you have complete control of everything they did a great job
@@wheatworkspro Thanks Unc Seb
Thank you for the video presentation from NAMM. My career rock group opened the live performance show at one of the convention halls back in 1990.
Might I add?
I don't get this 'they got it right' thing. (the Leslie?) I have been a Hammond/Leslie owner since the 60ies, and went digital on the pro stage with a full XK-3c setup, lower manual and B3 Guy's stand, back when they were UN-heard of. Mated it with an original Leslie 330 bought new in 1976. So, I have a little bit of experience.
Graduated to a bit of downsizing with the SK-2 and Studio 12 Leslie in a blues band for a number of years. These earlier Hammond digital organs models have all the tools, and keyboard 'feel', to make them sound just the way one would like.
Two way EQUALIZED key click, all the mellowness or brightness you could ask for. Same with leakage and crosstalk. The built in digital Leslie and distortion/reverb effects are a great added plus.
Hammond has been doing this for a long while now. Outside of the physical controls and logistics and perhaps the multi key contact system added to the XK-5, there has not been much of a change in 'they got it right'. (O:
Oh, a bit more, many keyboardists/organists can't seem to understand......If it has the Hammond OR Leslie logo, it is NOT a clone or copy. It is a natural progression of the original, vintage electro mechanical instrument. All other companies ARE copies and present their own version of what they think a Hammond organ should look and sound like today.
We saw this going on decades ago in the home organ market. Other brands' were including drawbars on their instruments and incorporating compact Leslie speakers in their consoles. I won't go into the brand names. Thanks for reading my rant, that is all.🙂
I wish rep explained why it’s worth 3 times the price of a vintage Leslie, and almost double the price of a 122a.
you can buy an old B3 with an old 122 for that 🤣
What are your comments on the new XK4 organ? Did they truly get it right for $2495 ??
no they didnt! the xk1c was the best!
Got that farrofish b4000+, my organ needs are met
That Leslie looks 🤩 tho
The Hammond/Leslie Suzuki Co. have been using those digitally controlled servo motors for years now. I think the expense is more about the solid core cabinet construction of the original build and of course the tube amp. As an audiophile, I would say the amp alone is a $1500 item 😉.
Yes, I agree. The light weight foam rotors are able to be driven by a single, smaller motor - digitally controlled. But, foam absorbs sound (lowering output). The old birch plywood bass rotors were sound nottle-necks and required the second, bigger motor for tremolo speed. But, were sound reflective. So, pluses and minuses.
Whether bi amped or a power-robbing passive cross-over, they are still under-powered for experiencing the audio effects than Don Leslie wanted listeners to experience - especially in club/concert venues, with amplified instruments. Miking (even with a stereo sound system), loses everything Don Leslie created to simulate the complex experience of a pipe organ, in a large church or cathedral.
The best solution (from my experience), is a serious multi-tube preamp, hit first by a overdrive pedal, then to an active crossover and into two high-powered (500+ watt, solid state), amps. With two high power 15" bass drivers below (in a wedge baffle), and two high power compression drivers (into a Y - shaped), treble duct under the horn - with extensions to the horns (even though only one horn is active).
So far, this is the best setup I have found. Cheers!
Actually the term for the cabinet construction is lumber core.
@@DandyDon1 Correct!
@@jordanburrill883 Don Leslie's Leslie speaker was actually designed for the recreation of Theatre Organ Tremulant, not classic pipe organ (liturgical) Tremulant.
The motors used in the 21 System, 3300 are not that small. The motors used in the Studio 12 however are smaller.
Remember the 122NA, 147NA, 122XB, and 971 used Don Leslie's design of the pulsed AC motor system.
The Styrofoam rotor was also a Don Leslie design. It's design was to correct the problems with the wooden rotor such as rotational balancing problems.
Don Leslie's final and ultimate Theatre Organ Tremulant rotor design was the Rotosonic Drum.
7 Grand??? Are ya ki....for that money I will get 3 pristine original 122 or 145 - the real truth!!!
For 7 grand it's no problem sourcing one of each and get both renovated to perfect condition as well... Go figure...
Keep ky eyes on one of the latest 122XB. New maybe 3,5k.
Hey can we hear that Leslie on an old Vintage Hammond A105
Of course you know there are no vintage Hammond’s at the show I’m going to have to order one and do a demonstration
@@wheatworkspro ok show us please when you get it and they say you can adjust the rise and fall time right
Does this connect to 6 pin B3 organs?
Yes they have created a special kit where you don’t even need a technician it’s just plug and play
First to comment 😊😊
Great for wooly bully watch it now
Backpack full of business cards??
That bottom rotor needs adjusting but it sounds good
I would like to hear that Leslie on a vintage Hammond organ B3 A105 and what will have to be installed on my A105.
XK4 sounds like a table buzzer. No way near the "Real Thing".
this is interesting hopefully now i can hear the difference between a 122 and 147 leslie
Only difference is the wiring on the cable.. I LOVE my 58 B3 and 58 122... I got lucky!!
This Leslie is way to expensive for most organist or keyboardist. Plenty of vintage 122, 145s and the 3300 out thereat way more reasonable prices. Then you have the Viscount Vortex 315 that is way lighter out there!
I can still hear the difference instantly 😂
7,000 for a leslie noo
That horn is two fast
7 grand... come on....
The truth is: you get an 122 and a 147. So 3,5k each. 😅
Who's Got 7k sitting ?
@@tom221263 Well, I can buy one of each for 1500-2000 a piece, even less if I find a bargain, that leaves cash enough to have them both worked through and set up to shape, and boom I have two instead of one (and a great investment for the future as well)...
the old 122 and 147 had the same preamp and power amp. the only difference is how they connected to the organs for speed switching. and the rotating horn has been the same design for 70 years. $7,000 for one of these is just idiotic. and why has the studio 12 been out of stock for years when they have one in the background? are they still making these or not?
The 122 amplifier and the 147 amp are VERY different circuits.
The 147 uses a unbalanced audio input section, with two dedicated pins on the input for speed control. The 122 uses balanced audio input, and uses a form of phantom power to control the speed. (The 122 also provides B+ voltage back to the organ's preamp for older Hammonds.
The power amp sections of these two amps are quite different in their cathode circuits and their feedback circuits. This results in a difference in each amplifier's voicing.
The 122 was designed and voiced for use with tonewheel generator organs. The 147 was designed for use with Wurlitzer organs, an was also considered their universal model. the 147 was recommended for Hammond organs only when the Leslie needed to be connected to the internal organ speaker terminals.
122 and 147 cabinets were identical. Same speaker and driver, same rotors, same motors and even the same crossover network.
The only difference between a 122 cabinet and a 147 cabinet is the amplifier.
So much incorrect product information in such a short time, They must have needed to find a quick extra salesman to cover lunch.
$7000 ???
same 40watt tube amp as the 122xb....dont get bamboozled by these jerkweeds
Nanny state Leslie BWAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH I've owned many..