The last 3 minutes were what I needed. As a christian, I have been relying too much on my own strength and knowledge. And I forgot how God has been guiding me in the past. Thank you for sharing this message. God bless your ministry.
I am so sick and in constant severe pain and suffering I can’t go on this way. I beg God day and night, I can’t do anything, I need healing in my brain, intestines, rectum, colon, stomach, neurological systems, neuroendocrine peptides, skin, bones, joints, teeth, eyes etc PLEASE PLEASE FATHER HELP ME, PLEASE ANYONE WHO READS THIS PLEASE PRAY FOR ME I NEED AN END TO THIS I NEED A WAY OUT I AM IN DESPERATE DEPRESSION AND PHYSICAL MENTAL EMOTIONAL SUFFERING BEYOND BELIEF PLEASE PRAY FOR ME ABBA HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME I NEED SLEEP AND I NEED MY BODY AND BRAIN TO FUNCTION
A lot of people think comments don’t matter but I’m a real person asking All viewers who believe to please pray for me in my desperate situation. I’m am weakened and unable to fix this. I believe in the power of prayer and need your faith, please, help me. Thank you for caring.
@@deborah41541 Are you still with us, Deborah? I've been through losing 2 parents, a husband and son, and my own health and ability to produce life sustaining income. And I can tell you that God is more real and precious to me today than He ever was because I've had to cling to Him to survive my own desire to die. Either He is an all wise, all powerful, good and loving God, or we might as well give up the pretense of believing in Him. If He is all of those things, then there is sufficient reason for us to remain alive long enough to find out what He wants for our lives. I pray that you can do that because I know beyond doubt that He made you and wants to share His love with you. He who didn't spare His own Son...how will He not also give us all things?" (Romans 8:32)
Just recently started coming across J.P. Moreland here on YT. We had his “Scaling The Secular City” as one of our textbooks for an Apologetic class way back in in ~ 1988-1991 and that book and the name of its author have been lodged in my memory ever since. 👍🏻
Thanks, J.P. This a great reality check about God speaking to us. Some Christian teachers believe we are overly focused on hearing God whispering to us. I think they may be right about people who want God to micromanage their lives like an ever present director, but I think that sometimes you do get a strong push from the Lord to do something via a convicting feeling, an audio event, a visual event, or some heightened perception of a mundane physical event.
I think there are a bunch of speakers in the "when God seems silent" series and I'm not sure which one came after JP, but I don't think it's a part 1/part 2 thing where both lectures were JP.
If you listen carefully to this lecture you will see that the described experiences can not be explained by autosuggestion. Dr Moreland is far from alone in having words of knowledge and visions. You can multiply these amazing stories by thousands all over Christendom. Perhaps the Lord will reveal Himself to those who have made negative comments here, maybe not. His silence may be that it is not your time yet, or simply due to the fact that, "He shows mercy to whom He shows mercy, and He hardens whom He hardens." See Romans 9.
Yes.. either he is not telling the truth or fell prey to coincidences or other people who told him how did he know this was lying to him or it is from the Lord... Just quite a few possibilities if this stuff is not true... Like the guy who said Lord do you see me.. could JP of heard it and it went into his subconsciousness and he thought he heard it from the Lord? Love to get a hold of this man
I once dreamed I was walking on a mountain, and falling down, tripping over some rock or stick, and heard a voice saying "For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? From 2 Corinthians 6:14 and I woke up, this was just after I got saved,
I wish I could get a hold of this man. Cannot find how to get hold of him. His website form does not work. I have some serious questions and urgent questions I need to know about some of his stories.. My salvation may be at mistake hope I can correspond with him one day..
There should be a balance. Nowadays I'm surrounded by Christians that talk daily with Good, fly to heaven on a regular basis, talk to spirits etc, with very week knowledge of scripture.
Has anyone ever gotten a DUI, or done something completely stupid or wrong in their adult lives? Would anyone, being an adult, get a DUI or do something stupid then turn around and blame their parents for said persons own stupidity or actions? Why blame G-d for things that mankind has been doing to themselves ever since Adam and Eve ate the apple..
So I have a question ? So he mention that there are things that God has no will for …and he referenced 1 chronicles 17… stating that God told him do what’s in his heart but that was actually Nathan then right underneath that scripture what was in David’s heart or what he wanted to do God directed him to not do …. So how can you reference that when it doesn’t help what you actually said …
"And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward." -Matthew 10:42
He's describing systematic cold reading. Faith is the systematic search for or openness to coincidences which the believer will refuse to believe is a coincidence.
DO ANGELS & DEMONS EXIST ? God spoke to you a number of times ? & angels around you several times ? While kid's die of hunger in poor countries & from deseases after number of prayers from "morally demolished" parents, & never been answered by God, no sign whatsoever ? Doc, with all my respects as a "person", (I don't care about your education, I have one too), let me ask you this question : Are you sure you are not suffering from "personality disorder" needing attention such as narcissism mixed with histrionism mixed with a bit of paranoïa & schizophrenia ? You must know that when a mind (subconscience) is suffering in distress, can send to the "consciousness" (natural survival instinct) a "message of alert" to tell you : "do "something", "anything" to get "help" & as consequence & result, the brain (consciousness) reacts unconsciously & can make you do crazy things such as "christian illumination", thinking that you are Jesus himself, or another elected chosen prophet from God (guru of sect) or taking yourself for a superman. Oh, don't get me wrong ! I do believe you spoke to God ! You seemed sincere ! & I do believe this student saw those angels around you also & that other lady in the church who saw the "same thing" (angel) as you ! Cause you are telling me & seem sincere ! But are you telling the truth ? & are they telling the truth or just teasing you (because they know already about your "visions" & conversations with God) ? Or are you just "another" manipulator ? It's funny because you seem the only one amongst millions of people to have experienced a few conversations directly with God & to have seen angels ! What are you trying to pull, doc ? Make more money ? Attract students to your courses ? Resurrect the christian church because dying (because hurting your beliefs) ? Become some kind of "Jesus Superstar Guru" ? I mean, if you had "special gifts" like "Padre Pio" or "Frère André" or "Nostradamus" (prophecies) had, then I wouldn't doubt you ! But it's not your case !
That’s weird you said he’s the only one out of millions who God directly spoke to and have seen angels. Because I hear many stories from other people that have those experiences. So that’s a strawman view. You should also see someone commenting to you but on another comment and I hope you got their point. Though I know this is a very old comment here lol
That's right, JP. It is entirely normal for believers to experience god's silence....because he a figment of their imagination, and sometimes they focus on reality instead. I applaud your honesty in revealing this painful truth. Cheers ...oh, wait. You're actually going to give some rubbish justification as opposed to stating the obvious. Darn, I'm disappointed yet again. The stupid, it hurts...
Dr Moreland I learned alot from this preaching. Glory to God
The last 3 minutes were what I needed. As a christian, I have been relying too much on my own strength and knowledge. And I forgot how God has been guiding me in the past. Thank you for sharing this message. God bless your ministry.
Love this teaching...I'm 60/40 that finding this was providential...Praise Be to Jehovah in the Highest!
I am so sick and in constant severe pain and suffering I can’t go on this way. I beg God day and night, I can’t do anything, I need healing in my brain, intestines, rectum, colon, stomach, neurological systems, neuroendocrine peptides, skin, bones, joints, teeth, eyes etc PLEASE PLEASE FATHER HELP ME, PLEASE ANYONE WHO READS THIS PLEASE PRAY FOR ME I NEED AN END TO THIS I NEED A WAY OUT I AM IN DESPERATE DEPRESSION AND PHYSICAL MENTAL EMOTIONAL SUFFERING BEYOND BELIEF PLEASE PRAY FOR ME ABBA HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME I NEED SLEEP AND I NEED MY BODY AND BRAIN TO FUNCTION
Make sure you're not holding on to grudges or unforgiveness.
Thank you, this is encouraging because this is exactly my experience. It was mostly "silent knowledge" for me, but you describe it so well.
A lot of people think comments don’t matter but I’m a real person asking All viewers who believe to please pray for me in my desperate situation. I’m am weakened and unable to fix this. I believe in the power of prayer and need your faith, please, help me. Thank you for caring.
Deborah Haley praying
Any better yet
Hey, how are you? Order three years now.. so I’m wondering what happened.
@@labae8728 At that time I lost my mom and dad. A few weeks ago my son drowned. Im not so good at all. How do you live when you dont want to?
@@deborah41541 Are you still with us, Deborah? I've been through losing 2 parents, a husband and son, and my own health and ability to produce life sustaining income. And I can tell you that God is more real and precious to me today than He ever was because I've had to cling to Him to survive my own desire to die. Either He is an all wise, all powerful, good and loving God, or we might as well give up the pretense of believing in Him. If He is all of those things, then there is sufficient reason for us to remain alive long enough to find out what He wants for our lives. I pray that you can do that because I know beyond doubt that He made you and wants to share His love with you. He who didn't spare His own Son...how will He not also
give us all things?" (Romans 8:32)
I listened to this years ago and am listening again today. Wow, it's brilliant. I've never heard teaching of this quality in a church. Excellent.
Awesome and a very deep lecture JP Moreland! God bless you! :)
Just recently started coming across J.P. Moreland here on YT. We had his “Scaling The Secular City” as one of our textbooks for an Apologetic class way back in in ~ 1988-1991 and that book and the name of its author have been lodged in my memory ever since. 👍🏻
FATHER speak to me plz and change my situation
Thanks, J.P. This a great reality check about God speaking to us. Some Christian teachers believe we are overly focused on hearing God whispering to us. I think they may be right about people who want God to micromanage their lives like an ever present director, but I think that sometimes you do get a strong push from the Lord to do something via a convicting feeling, an audio event, a visual event, or some heightened perception of a mundane physical event.
Thank God for J.P. Moreland
Thank you for sharing your practical devotional life.
Is part 2 available? This is an incredible teaching
Session 1: "Discerning God's Voice" - J.P. Moreland
ruclips.net/video/Da-WMdu3qd4/видео.html
Session 2: "Hardship Fosters Growth" - Joanne Jung
ruclips.net/video/TiM4Rafwf74/видео.html
Session 3: "Human Dependence on God" - Mike Erre
ruclips.net/video/cOXPHRy9SwQ/видео.html
Session 4: "God's Story" - Rick Langer
ruclips.net/video/OYLJXfQAHSg/видео.html
I think there are a bunch of speakers in the "when God seems silent" series and I'm not sure which one came after JP, but I don't think it's a part 1/part 2 thing where both lectures were JP.
If you listen carefully to this lecture you will see that the described experiences can not be explained by autosuggestion. Dr Moreland is far from alone in having words of knowledge and visions. You can multiply these amazing stories by thousands all over Christendom. Perhaps the Lord will reveal Himself to those who have made negative comments here, maybe not. His silence may be that it is not your time yet, or simply due to the fact that, "He shows mercy to whom He shows mercy, and He hardens whom He hardens." See Romans 9.
Yes.. either he is not telling the truth or fell prey to coincidences or other people who told him how did he know this was lying to him or it is from the Lord... Just quite a few possibilities if this stuff is not true... Like the guy who said Lord do you see me.. could JP of heard it and it went into his subconsciousness and he thought he heard it from the Lord? Love to get a hold of this man
@@i-love-my-cubby5208I’ve had many experiences of receiving “words of knowledge” for years now. Hearing God is possible.
Wonderful lecture. This IS the issue...how to discern G's voice over our own sub-vocalization.
we walk by faith and not by sight.
I wanna listen to God in my dreams and vision
Zamira Melissa Parco. Me too
I once dreamed I was walking on a mountain, and falling down, tripping over some rock or stick, and heard a voice saying "For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? From 2 Corinthians 6:14 and I woke up, this was just after I got saved,
I wish I could get a hold of this man. Cannot find how to get hold of him. His website form does not work. I have some serious questions and urgent questions I need to know about some of his stories.. My salvation may be at mistake hope I can correspond with him one day..
Did you reach him?
Why would your salvation be at stake?
See Craig Keener's two-volume work on Miracles. You will super blessed.
What will I walk away being confident about?
@@cooper202000 That Christ is real and active in our everyday lives....sometimes in the most amazing ways.
I need to pick that book up.
There should be a balance. Nowadays I'm surrounded by Christians that talk daily with Good, fly to heaven on a regular basis, talk to spirits etc, with very week knowledge of scripture.
AMEN
Has anyone ever gotten a DUI, or done something completely stupid or wrong in their adult lives? Would anyone, being an adult, get a DUI or do something stupid then turn around and blame their parents for said persons own stupidity or actions?
Why blame G-d for things that mankind has been doing to themselves ever since Adam and Eve ate the apple..
If i send an application in to get the aplogetics certificate, how long does that take to get to my house? it has been some days now.
Am I part of ReasonFaith.com; not quite.
So I have a question ? So he mention that there are things that God has no will for …and he referenced 1 chronicles 17… stating that God told him do what’s in his heart but that was actually Nathan then right underneath that scripture what was in David’s heart or what he wanted to do God directed him to not do …. So how can you reference that when it doesn’t help what you actually said …
I just start to assume that I must not be one of His sheep. I wasn't obedient enough (?). I try, but maybe I fell short. But I will try again!
"And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward."
-Matthew 10:42
Why would God withdraw from us??
Part 2??
Yes, does this exist?
Still hoping it will surface at some point. I really need the rest of this message.
Do you know what is "autosuggestion" or "self-suggestion" ???
i didnt know mr. feeny was an apologist :O
12:36
This video is serious
I thought I was hearing God's voice.... but learning about the authority and sufficiency of scripture. I have my serious doubts about this teaching
What points in his preaching you doubted in particular? I’d love to know!
What are your doubts?
@@ProphetGreg94 this idea of 60/40 that God speaking. When God spoke people were really sure....
God speaking audibly, is rare, but it does happen, in my case he speaks through your mind, but on occasion it does come audibly.
Eric Day. I want to hear his voice
I have a very hard time with a "silent" God ! That word "sounds" like "dead" to me !
Says the guy with neiztche as his avatar....
He's describing systematic cold reading. Faith is the systematic search for or openness to coincidences which the believer will refuse to believe is a coincidence.
Like evolution? 🤔
I'm not trying to be cynical but some of this sounds like Kenneth Copeland
DO ANGELS & DEMONS EXIST ?
God spoke to you a number of times ? & angels around you several times ? While kid's die of hunger in poor countries & from deseases after number of prayers from "morally demolished" parents, & never been answered by God, no sign whatsoever ?
Doc, with all my respects as a "person", (I don't care about your education, I have one too), let me ask you this question :
Are you sure you are not suffering from "personality disorder" needing attention such as narcissism mixed with histrionism mixed with a bit of paranoïa & schizophrenia ?
You must know that when a mind (subconscience) is suffering in distress, can send to the "consciousness" (natural survival instinct) a "message of alert" to tell you : "do "something", "anything" to get "help" & as consequence & result, the brain (consciousness) reacts unconsciously & can make you do crazy things such as "christian illumination", thinking that you are Jesus himself, or another elected chosen prophet from God (guru of sect) or taking yourself for a superman.
Oh, don't get me wrong ! I do believe you spoke to God ! You seemed sincere !
& I do believe this student saw those angels around you also & that other lady in the church who saw the "same thing" (angel) as you ! Cause you are telling me & seem sincere ! But are you telling the truth ? & are they telling the truth or just teasing you (because they know already about your "visions" & conversations with God) ? Or are you just "another" manipulator ?
It's funny because you seem the only one amongst millions of people to have experienced a few conversations directly with God & to have seen angels !
What are you trying to pull, doc ? Make more money ? Attract students to your courses ? Resurrect the christian church because dying (because hurting your beliefs) ? Become some kind of "Jesus Superstar Guru" ?
I mean, if you had "special gifts" like "Padre Pio" or "Frère André" or "Nostradamus" (prophecies) had, then I wouldn't doubt you ! But it's not your case !
That’s weird you said he’s the only one out of millions who God directly spoke to and have seen angels. Because I hear many stories from other people that have those experiences. So that’s a strawman view. You should also see someone commenting to you but on another comment and I hope you got their point. Though I know this is a very old comment here lol
lol....
What a pile of contrivance!
That's right, JP.
It is entirely normal for believers to experience god's silence....because he a figment of their imagination, and sometimes they focus on reality instead.
I applaud your honesty in revealing this painful truth.
Cheers
...oh, wait. You're actually going to give some rubbish justification as opposed to stating the obvious.
Darn, I'm disappointed yet again.
The stupid, it hurts...