I've played a Kwain deck for quite some time, with Approach of the Second Sun as the primary win condition. I've never picked up that all of those untap cantrips are a huge effect, even more so than draw X spells. Great deck tech!
My friend went with an evolving strategy for Kwain that started as a group hug but very quickly became a hate bear deck that benefits off its own draw power
@@h.g.5509 my sympathies. I've bounced around 3 different cities across the country in the past year and a half. Trying to play games with people or keep up with old playgroups is getting impossible.
@@demrandom I would agree that if you started not knowing what the 2nd card was, then keep drawing off the top. No one has time for 16 shuffles. But if you have scryed the top 2 cards, then you better shuffle first and then start drawing randomly.
I just put together a Kwain deck myself and to say this is quite different from what I have. Mine is more in the way of "draw a boatload of cards and win without hurting anyone" along with finding win conditions that don't require fighting anyone. Although, I did enjoy this tactic too, as it's easily much cheaper than the version I'm running.
How about anytime a player draws a card an opponent loses life, and anytime you draw a card an opponent loses life, anytime you discard a card an opponent loses life. Then just draw your whole library, you do not get hurt, but they die
I was playing online with some people, and I just lost to this deck. It was really fun to play against, because it isn't mean control. It is almost like a grouphug, until you politic one player into killing the others, then locking the last, creature-based player out in the 1 vs 1 with Wizard Spellbook + Dismiss into Dream + Energy Arc. The game was before I watched the video, and I saw it work first hand!
You had me at "Dismiss into Dream"...I love that card but always found it as too mean. A group hug shell could be safe for it though. I really like this deck idea and already see places for some non-budget upgrades.
I made kwain as a draw out deck but couldn't find the right defenses and then someone makes the recommendation for Kawin and Mitch my man!!! You always come through! Love your deck techs and everything you do. Keep up the hard work brother cannot wait to see what you ha e next! Maybe some more close quarters? :3
Please make deck tech videos with commander decks with $100 budget! In my community we have been doing this and it’s growing rapidly! My community would love to see you make a video! Thanks!
Honestly, since I got into commander about a year ago, Kwain has become my favorite commander. All my friends hate him though, since drawing everyone cards elevates the power of the match rapidly. 😂
spellslinger-y Kwain looks fun. I'm actually building an Echo and the Bunnymen themed deck with Kwain at the helm (and Vizzerdrix, of course. and that's the extent of bunnies in UW...). the deck plays into the card draw synergy rather than untap effects. regardless, it's good to see what kind of brews people come up with for Kwain!
Having a lot of fun playing a deck that is pretty similar. I just added the apporach of the second sun and a couple other win cards where you just draw yourself to win
Unwind is such an underrated counter. Sure, you have to keep three mana up to play it, but if you untap 3 regular lands with it, it's free, and if you untap dual lands, it's a counterspell that nets you 3 mana
Thought Kwain would be a good commander to bring to FNM. Built a nice group hug deck with no win cons that I could bring to any table without feeling over or underpowered. I think I tapped him 5 times total in 5 games. Got hated out instantly it was bizarre lol I regretted not bringing something oppressive like Meren or something
I made a group hug & flying tribal Kwain deck, but my playgroup hated it since games dragged out forever since everybody free into all their removal. Kwain is fun to pilot though with untap effects when you can make everybody draw cards and play the game and hit lands.
I have a friend who was new to the format, and... their first deck they built was Kozilek, Butcher of Truth. Their second was kawain. I kinda hate playing against the Kawain deck more then the deck filled to the brim with big idiots with Anhilator and Void Winnower. (I should also note that we literally were playing off Tabletop sim so they were just looking up cards on scryfall and putting in whatever they could to these decks, so budget wasn't a thing? It was amazing the sort of things my friend would and would not find. still, a lot of my experience with the JOYS of Hullbreacher+windfall came from this friend's deck.)
Carrots are not good for rabbits and they don't really eat carrots much in the wild. They're OK in small amounts as an occasional treat at most. Just as an FYI. (pegasi is the plural of Pegasus BTW)
I built my kwain deck shortly after he was released went with a mass amount of group hug draw but wanted to punish with sphinx's tuteledge and grind stone
Hey Mitch would do you think some of the Dean's of strikshaven would be redeem able commander's if used as a partner with commander with it's other side. Ruling would be each halve behaves as if it is not a mdf so you can try to cheat past commander tax. I feel like the study counter on could be interesting, while I might build on around the Izzit/prismari Dean
For a $10-15 upgrade, would it be worth running a win con like triskaidekaphile, Test of Endurance, Approach of the second sun, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries or Thrassa’s Oracle?
Is anyone else as disappointed as I am? I saw the title and thought Mitch was giving us a Circle of Protection deck....Now, I just have sadness. Cool deck concept though, but would be better with the CoPs!
This is the one deck I was hoppy to see. Every bunny will binky when they see this. A #1 fluffle party deck. Thats right I did the puns Morher-Fluffer.🐰
I’m gonna be honest, I’m struggling to see how this deck wins. I get there’s mass card draw and life gain going on with maybe some commander damage in between but unless I missed it there’s no real win condition for this. Could someone please help me with this?
I feel like most of the time your opponents are just going to immediately assume you're a combo deck and won't cooperate with you that much. Realistically, once they see you untapping Kwain and drawing multiple cards they're going to start gunning for you because A: you're durdling, and B: it's really suspicious lmao.
I love seeing these deck tech they have been a lot of fun in otherwise stressful times
I've played a Kwain deck for quite some time, with Approach of the Second Sun as the primary win condition. I've never picked up that all of those untap cantrips are a huge effect, even more so than draw X spells. Great deck tech!
My friend went with an evolving strategy for Kwain that started as a group hug but very quickly became a hate bear deck that benefits off its own draw power
These deck tech videos are so cool. I like that it truly is a budget deck and that's awesome. I need more like this in my life.
I was going to build this and call it "Huggs Bunny"
Did you ever build it?
@@TheSkizz89 unfortunately no, at around the time I was going to my playgroup dissolved and the card shop near me closed..... yeah
@@h.g.5509 my sympathies.
I've bounced around 3 different cities across the country in the past year and a half. Trying to play games with people or keep up with old playgroups is getting impossible.
It would fun to see the budget decks in action
I feel minds desire would be really good here because he mentioned about the small cantrips and Storm from shards
I took out Mind's Desire from my storm deck simply because shuffling so many times was ewwwww
@@vinightshade6026 You can just shuffle once if you're not responding in between the copies resolving as a shortcut if your opponents agree
@@demrandom I would agree that if you started not knowing what the 2nd card was, then keep drawing off the top. No one has time for 16 shuffles. But if you have scryed the top 2 cards, then you better shuffle first and then start drawing randomly.
I wondered what could be done with Kwain when I first saw the card. This is awesome!
I bought one for my Grand Arbiter A. deck, now I am going to make a whole deck for it.
I just put together a Kwain deck myself and to say this is quite different from what I have. Mine is more in the way of "draw a boatload of cards and win without hurting anyone" along with finding win conditions that don't require fighting anyone.
Although, I did enjoy this tactic too, as it's easily much cheaper than the version I'm running.
How about anytime a player draws a card an opponent loses life, and anytime you draw a card an opponent loses life, anytime you discard a card an opponent loses life. Then just draw your whole library, you do not get hurt, but they die
hello, it seems like i might be the first to comment on this video, good day to you all
And a good day to you as well
*tips hat*
I was playing online with some people, and I just lost to this deck. It was really fun to play against, because it isn't mean control. It is almost like a grouphug, until you politic one player into killing the others, then locking the last, creature-based player out in the 1 vs 1 with Wizard Spellbook + Dismiss into Dream + Energy Arc. The game was before I watched the video, and I saw it work first hand!
Absolutely fantastic deck tech! Love these janky low-cost decks!
Side note when it comes to real live bunnies, carrots are like candy bars for them. Don't overload them and give them bunny diabetes.
Yeah I think the idea that they even like them is due to the cultural effect of the looney toons
This looks SO fun. I've been looking at Kwain for a while and this looks like a more interesting way to build him.
Voltron him
Never been one to go for precons or pre-built decklists online, but I love this idea. Definitely taking this one home
I’m imagining a turn with Narset, parter of veils out where you tap and untap the bunny 6 times and only you draw a million cards
Narset and Teferis Puzzle Box.
Your opponents can't draw cards anymore... 😂😂😂😊
Pretty sure this is an Ikoria creature - Rabbit Pig
ACAB includes Bunnies
You had me at "Dismiss into Dream"...I love that card but always found it as too mean. A group hug shell could be safe for it though. I really like this deck idea and already see places for some non-budget upgrades.
Bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do
I wanted to build this deck for months
All Cops Are Bunnies. Love this one
Ominious seas would be great getting an 8/8 kraken every 2 turns sounds pretty nice
I’ve been wanting to find a deck that kind of revolves around that card and this might be a good option
I made kwain as a draw out deck but couldn't find the right defenses and then someone makes the recommendation for Kawin and Mitch my man!!! You always come through! Love your deck techs and everything you do. Keep up the hard work brother cannot wait to see what you ha e next! Maybe some more close quarters? :3
Please make deck tech videos with commander decks with $100 budget! In my community we have been doing this and it’s growing rapidly! My community would love to see you make a video! Thanks!
Thanks for showcasing this fluffy boi! Was building him at the exact same time :)
Kwain is such an interesting card, I enjoy seeing how people build around him
Definitely adding isochron scepter
Officer Hopps reporting for duty!
War of spark planeswalker narset would fit in really well too, denying the draw for the other players
You got me singing the Beatles.. I want some Bunny to love.
Honestly, since I got into commander about a year ago, Kwain has become my favorite commander. All my friends hate him though, since drawing everyone cards elevates the power of the match rapidly. 😂
Did anyone say...
Narset, Parter of Veils?
no
spellslinger-y Kwain looks fun. I'm actually building an Echo and the Bunnymen themed deck with Kwain at the helm (and Vizzerdrix, of course. and that's the extent of bunnies in UW...). the deck plays into the card draw synergy rather than untap effects. regardless, it's good to see what kind of brews people come up with for Kwain!
Having a lot of fun playing a deck that is pretty similar. I just added the apporach of the second sun and a couple other win cards where you just draw yourself to win
Unwind is such an underrated counter. Sure, you have to keep three mana up to play it, but if you untap 3 regular lands with it, it's free, and if you untap dual lands, it's a counterspell that nets you 3 mana
Super cool. Love this group-hug bunny cop.
I would love to see this deck with $50 of upgrades. Kwain is one of my favorite cards!
Thought Kwain would be a good commander to bring to FNM. Built a nice group hug deck with no win cons that I could bring to any table without feeling over or underpowered. I think I tapped him 5 times total in 5 games. Got hated out instantly it was bizarre lol I regretted not bringing something oppressive like Meren or something
I made a group hug & flying tribal Kwain deck, but my playgroup hated it since games dragged out forever since everybody free into all their removal. Kwain is fun to pilot though with untap effects when you can make everybody draw cards and play the game and hit lands.
Same
I have a friend who was new to the format, and...
their first deck they built was Kozilek, Butcher of Truth.
Their second was kawain.
I kinda hate playing against the Kawain deck more then the deck filled to the brim with big idiots with Anhilator and Void Winnower.
(I should also note that we literally were playing off Tabletop sim so they were just looking up cards on scryfall and putting in whatever they could to these decks, so budget wasn't a thing? It was amazing the sort of things my friend would and would not find. still, a lot of my experience with the JOYS of Hullbreacher+windfall came from this friend's deck.)
19:22, and my lowest TCGPlayer market price is currently $2.17 for my Fifth Dawn printing.
Another underated card for kwain is tolarian kraken
Tap kwain, draw, pay 1, untap kwain, tap kwain, draw, pay 1....
Wow! Don't know how he missed that one. @CQ_Eddie!!!!!
Carrots are not good for rabbits and they don't really eat carrots much in the wild. They're OK in small amounts as an occasional treat at most. Just as an FYI. (pegasi is the plural of Pegasus BTW)
I love this concept. Could you recommend any reasonable (or not-so-reasonable) upgrades? This looks like a lot of fun.
I used to run Kwain back when hullbreacher was legal to keep everyone else from drawing
An Azorius deck I would actually want to play. Nice.
Tolarian Kraken + Dismiss into Dream, or Tolarian Kraken + Kwain is good combos for this deck too
Verity Circle also would be good
You should make a discord so fans can discuss decks and cool budget alternatives
triclopean sight is a decent alternative if you are missing a card
I built my kwain deck shortly after he was released went with a mass amount of group hug draw but wanted to punish with sphinx's tuteledge and grind stone
Bunny fact: Don't feed bunnies to many carrots it has to much sugar for them and can be bad for them
Commander isn’t some cartoon musical where you sing a little song and your insipid win-cons magically come true! So let…it…go.
I want a break the bank version of this it seems really cool
Let's go to the hop! Also, now I want to create a deck with a lot of magicians and figure out a way to have the rabbit come out of a hat.
adds sphinx tutelage into deck and a couple more mill cards
You know it's a budget deck when sleeves and a deck ox cost almost as much as the deck does
Hey Mitch would do you think some of the Dean's of strikshaven would be redeem able commander's if used as a partner with commander with it's other side. Ruling would be each halve behaves as if it is not a mdf so you can try to cheat past commander tax. I feel like the study counter on could be interesting, while I might build on around the Izzit/prismari Dean
Ooh, good take. Gives me ideas!
Saw a WU "cops" deck and got excited because I thought it was going to be detain tribal
I was thinking the Circles of Protection...but I am an old player.
Why didn't you add shark typhoon along side Metallurgic Summonings?
*plays Mass Manipulation*
Hippity hoppity your stuff is my proporty
For a $10-15 upgrade, would it be worth running a win con like triskaidekaphile, Test of Endurance, Approach of the second sun, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries or Thrassa’s Oracle?
You could replace Thought Reflection with Teferi's Ageless Insight. It's a lot cheaper and has almost the same effect
more than $1 though . . .
@@Phavahg oh, yeah forgot about the limit. If you have a bit bigger budget you could fit that in
@The Commanders Quarters what about adding Sphinx-Bone Wand?
Honestly this seems really fun to play
i'm disappointed he didn't say because those cards need a good home too
so its azorius control with a group hug/political package.
So it's Zootopia?
I screen shot deck list did he forget to add the instants?
FINALLY A KWAIN DECK
I wanna build this deck so bad it looks fun
Detective Hopps?
Dismiss into Dream says target. It wont work with any card that says All or Each.
Hey so what lands should be in the deck?
Since my bunny rabbit commander is a wizard I added a wizard theme deck adding Mary meha master wizard to the deck just for some extra spice 😅😅😅😂😂
Naru not Mary 😅
Is there a chance to get an update to this?
Okay this deck amuses me imma build it.
Would verity circle be overkill in this deck for card draw?
Very cool deck dude
It’s weird they didn’t give the coked up speed bunny haste
I wanted to do an Alice in Wonderland theme
Mitch how was your day today
Freed from the real? surely its a great card for the commander
Did someone say Zootopia?
Carrots aren’t actually great to feed rabbits. 😂
Fun deck tho. Hhaha
How come he doesn't tell us what lands to play
it's in the deck list in the description. Nothing too interesting, pretty much just all the white/blue lands you can get for under $1.
@@thisjustinm Thanks
This deck is gonna lose hard against everything except a few precons.
Is anyone else as disappointed as I am? I saw the title and thought Mitch was giving us a Circle of Protection deck....Now, I just have sadness. Cool deck concept though, but would be better with the CoPs!
This is the one deck I was hoppy to see. Every bunny will binky when they see this. A #1 fluffle party deck.
Thats right I did the puns Morher-Fluffer.🐰
Finally 😍
Amazing how this deck list has 4x since this video... This game is getting expensive LOL
Jin-Gitaxis, just to be mean.
Damn I’m early, what’s up!
I’m gonna be honest, I’m struggling to see how this deck wins. I get there’s mass card draw and life gain going on with maybe some commander damage in between but unless I missed it there’s no real win condition for this. Could someone please help me with this?
My Kwain build is wayyyyyy more expensive than that and look way less efficient 😅
ABCAB
Just kidding, looks like a fun build
All British Cats Are Beautiful?
@@NakaliTama all bobcats are bobs
I feel like most of the time your opponents are just going to immediately assume you're a combo deck and won't cooperate with you that much. Realistically, once they see you untapping Kwain and drawing multiple cards they're going to start gunning for you because A: you're durdling, and B: it's really suspicious lmao.
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Oh no.. you are about to ruin my favorite group hug commander aint ya haha